Film Theory: Stranger Things - IS ELEVEN THE MONSTER? (Stranger Things Season 2 Prediction)

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    The new season of STRANGER THINGS is coming out, so naturally all of the questions surrounding Eleven, the kids, and the Demogorgon have resurfaced online. It’s a pretty popular theory that Eleven and the Demogorgon are related if not one and the same, but so far the evidence for this theory has been thin. So I did some digging, and Loyal Theorists, I’ve uncovered information that definitively proves that Eleven and the Demogorgon are one and the same!
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  • @fear_toxin
    @fear_toxin Před 6 lety +20738

    The moment you showed the sliding lock parallel I choked on my food and whispered "holy shit"

  • @eatyourcereal7840
    @eatyourcereal7840 Před 6 lety +9392

    MatPat goes to donate blood
    Doctor:MY GOD ITS ALL DIET COKE

  • @rage_2000
    @rage_2000 Před 4 lety +4600

    Upside down?
    Full of deadly creatures?
    I think he’s talking about Australia

  • @maximussssproductions
    @maximussssproductions Před rokem +446

    After watching season 4, and spoilers here, Mat Pat is technically correct because Vecna/Number One was also tortured by Brenner, and since it’s a hive mind connecting everything in the upside down, Vecna/One could be controlling the demogorgon to attack Brenner

  • @darkem93
    @darkem93 Před rokem +140

    despite this theory being wrong, matpat DID get right the more subtle part about how the demogorgans (i.e the monsters of the upside down) are connected to someone from the experiments with the same skill set as eleven, so, in a sense, matpat predicted stranger things season 4's villain, VECNA

  • @fbi-thatrobloxian761
    @fbi-thatrobloxian761 Před 4 lety +2036

    Film Theorists: explains theory of 011 being a demogorgon
    Stranger things S2: I'm about to end this man's whole career

    • @violetlavi2207
      @violetlavi2207 Před 4 lety +30

      Remind me how S2 disproves this theory? I haven't watched it in a while

    • @fbi-thatrobloxian761
      @fbi-thatrobloxian761 Před 4 lety +49

      @@violetlavi2207 S2 shows eleven just bliped into the upside down. A few days later (show-wise) Jim finds eleven in the woods and starts taking care of her. But he tried his best to keep that a secret

    • @violetlavi2207
      @violetlavi2207 Před 4 lety +52

      @@fbi-thatrobloxian761 That's true, but it doesn't really disprove the theory, does it? Eleven can still be a "mirror" of the monster, in a sense, and S2 solidifies that more than anything (she's able to get out of the Upside Down despite even Will and Barb not being able to do that)

    • @fbi-thatrobloxian761
      @fbi-thatrobloxian761 Před 4 lety +28

      @@violetlavi2207 have you considered the fact that they couldn't get out because of the demogorgon? El got out using the same entrance the demogorgon used in the school. Back on the fact, Will was lucky to not be eaten alive aside from Barbra

    • @violetlavi2207
      @violetlavi2207 Před 4 lety +21

      @@fbi-thatrobloxian761 Did the demogorgon leave at any point before El escaped, though? Assuming it did (I can't remember clearly), then yeah, Will and Barb probably could've escaped, if they could figure out how. But a lot of the stuff Matt mentioned happening S1 is indeed strange, and El being a carbon copy of the monster would explain her power set. Then again, it wouldn't explain how Kali's powers are so vastly different, so maybe we'll never know. At the very least, I think El and the demogorgon could be related in a sense, even if they're not one and the same

  • @daemonblackfyre3238
    @daemonblackfyre3238 Před 6 lety +4624

    Two Headed Monster named Mat and Pat.

  • @sincerecinnamon
    @sincerecinnamon Před rokem +105

    This is a really good theory when compared with season 4, and nobody even knew anything about that storyline yet. Good job, matpat!

  • @thecosmicroze9706
    @thecosmicroze9706 Před rokem +41

    It’s amazing how far fetched this is for season two but then years later, season 4 makes the theory make complete sense

  • @lukefeatherston130
    @lukefeatherston130 Před 6 lety +461

    Matpat goes to a restaurant:
    Friend: I'll take two burgers
    Matpat: You wanna know how to properly kill a cow?

    • @jeromez3427
      @jeromez3427 Před 6 lety +11

      *And then after explaining everything,*
      “But wait, thats just a THEORYY!”

    • @fahalo5688
      @fahalo5688 Před 6 lety

      Lucas Buttercups haha

    • @fahalo5688
      @fahalo5688 Před 6 lety +3

      NBA2K DynamicDuo a meat theory

    • @Mitsukakex
      @Mitsukakex Před 6 lety +3

      Matpat: "And with that that's how your cow is magical and killed itself. But hey that is just a theory."

    • @agent-fluffy
      @agent-fluffy Před 6 lety +1

      So wait...Matpat is Dwight?

  • @sugarcupheadsrealwifeandgi9737

    Nah she ain't Demogorgon
    She is the eggo monster

  • @ohemeffinggee
    @ohemeffinggee Před 2 lety +239

    I love looking back on this after season 4 just came out. This man is really smart and he was so close

    • @Poopy1115
      @Poopy1115 Před rokem +6

      how was he close?

    • @williamhuguet8017
      @williamhuguet8017 Před rokem +18

      All of the connections he made actually are true, except with One and not El. This might be because one possibly made the demogorgan. The demogorgan targeting Dr. Brenner also shows that connection because One hated him.

    • @Poopy1115
      @Poopy1115 Před rokem +2

      @@williamhuguet8017 ohhhhhhh

    • @jlmmedia09
      @jlmmedia09 Před rokem +5

      @@williamhuguet8017 All the connections he made are true, except with One and not the DEMOGORGON. cuz the vena parallels 11, the demogorgon wasn't ever a parallel.

    • @monke3403
      @monke3403 Před rokem +3

      Look at 7:52 the left one looks like vecna

  • @celetial3287
    @celetial3287 Před rokem +29

    it’s impressive how close he was. he was basically right; the monster was just someone like eleven

  • @joshfromjuniorstudios
    @joshfromjuniorstudios Před 6 lety +8317

    *Doesnt watch stranger things*
    *Watches the video anyway*

  • @Cryptidsquid66
    @Cryptidsquid66 Před 5 lety +696

    I was cooking a frozen waffle in the toaster when mat pat said to get away from his waffle
    *Coincidence?*
    *I think not*

  • @johnnyrockits2511
    @johnnyrockits2511 Před 2 lety +67

    This theory was really ahead of it’s time

  • @nodnarbo7145
    @nodnarbo7145 Před rokem +21

    rewatching this after finnishing season 4 - honestly the point of duality between the demogorgon heads could be a parallel for vecna and the mind flayer intead. Which would actually make a lot of sense! Especially the thing about them secretly wanting to destroy each other. That could be an epic revelation for season 5. If vecna's take on his 'colonization/overtaking' of the upside down is disproven.

  • @noone-wq2tl
    @noone-wq2tl Před 4 lety +302

    2017: Genius
    2019:BOY WERE THEY WRONG!!!!

    • @2110SHREYA
      @2110SHREYA Před 4 lety +2

      Odd1sout reference

    • @kj123._.
      @kj123._. Před 4 lety +1

      @@2110SHREYA I was gonna say dat

    • @kiranlouw1517
      @kiranlouw1517 Před 4 lety +1

      Sherry Maloo odd ones out who?

    • @kj123._.
      @kj123._. Před 4 lety

      @@kiranlouw1517 look it up

    • @2110SHREYA
      @2110SHREYA Před 4 lety

      Kiki Gibbler I’m afraid of getting r/whoosh if I say so

  • @saltyjade8580
    @saltyjade8580 Před 5 lety +573

    MattPatt: talks about dark pheonix
    Me in 2019: hmmm...

    • @solacies
      @solacies Před 5 lety

      I really love this comment.

    • @solacies
      @solacies Před 5 lety +1

      I said I love this comment but I didn't know he talked about X-Men 134 in the video.

    • @jameschung6106
      @jameschung6106 Před 4 lety

      Yo Itz Voxel Then you should pay attention to this video not to be rude

    • @solacies
      @solacies Před 4 lety

      @@jameschung6106 I was paying attention to the video but I was reading comments while I was watching and hadn't gotten to it yet.

    • @deletedchannel117
      @deletedchannel117 Před 4 lety

      Best comment ever.

  • @madelynwillet668
    @madelynwillet668 Před 2 lety +45

    Turns out you were right MatPat, you guessed it from season 1. The finale was insane I can’t wait for volume 2

    • @alexmarie5159
      @alexmarie5159 Před rokem +2

      I hope he does another theory video on the volume 1

    • @tylerpease574
      @tylerpease574 Před rokem +4

      He was right he just should of guessed it was 01

    • @_The_RFG_Club_
      @_The_RFG_Club_ Před rokem

      Wait wa, I’m rewatching the series cause I haven’t seen the new stuff but waaa

    • @_Zephster
      @_Zephster Před rokem

      What happened because I haven't watched season 4 for it so can you explain it

  • @PaperMortal
    @PaperMortal Před rokem +10

    Dude....this is crazy to watch after season 4. Cause matpat points out everything that connects eleven to the Demogorgon, and without realizing it, was connecting both the Demogorgon AND eleven to Vecna. Like...seriously that's nuts. Also when he mentioned that the Demogorgon in earlier concepts was supposed to cause people to "bleed from their nose and ears" when coming into contact with it. This detail ALONE showed just how much this series had been planned ahead. It's just insane.

  • @jimbo_guy
    @jimbo_guy Před 4 lety +545

    Matpat: Eleven Is The Demogorgon!!!
    The Duffer Brothers: Hold My Eggo.

    • @georgethemando378
      @georgethemando378 Před 4 lety

      @@Ash-fr9nj "lol sorry it pissed ne off that ur English wasnt correct" Isn't that like the pot calling the kettle black?

    • @patriciamaurer5779
      @patriciamaurer5779 Před 4 lety

      Jesus Christ

    • @jimbo_guy
      @jimbo_guy Před 4 lety

      @@Ash-fr9nj Well Look Who's Talking.

  • @zerotheboywonder
    @zerotheboywonder Před 2 lety +6

    *Vecna has entered the chat*

  • @chumuheha
    @chumuheha Před 2 lety +8

    well, it took four and a half years, and someone _like_ eleven was _a_ monster, so that counts as a win?

  • @mob8820
    @mob8820 Před 6 lety +702

    when you watch this after you watch season 2 and realize..... oh no..... mat pat is wrong

    • @mob8820
      @mob8820 Před 6 lety +10

      Wilson Manis yeah thats why i said im watching after i watched season 2

    • @mob8820
      @mob8820 Před 6 lety +4

      Wilson Manis and the video title says season 2 prediction

    • @griffinbaxter4754
      @griffinbaxter4754 Před 6 lety +12

      Potato Eh to be fair he’s gotten things wrong before especially when he makes these prediction videos, Remember his Rogue One theory?

    • @cluelive
      @cluelive Před 6 lety +6

      He was wrong but either way this theory was actually pretty cool even though it was wrong

    • @jackmask8495
      @jackmask8495 Před 6 lety +14

      He wasn't exactly wrong. She could still be the mind flayer. The mind flayer has both her powers and 8s powers so 11 could be a part of it. The hive mind also supports this.

  • @readwrecks
    @readwrecks Před 6 lety +861

    Well, it was a good theory while it lasted.

    • @noahcrane142
      @noahcrane142 Před 6 lety +16

      Rick Man after series two it could still be mainly true

    • @benjaminnelson5455
      @benjaminnelson5455 Před 6 lety +20

      It could be, but series 2 introduced an excellent alternate candidate for the Demogorgon's other head. I can't say much more without posting major spoilers, but those that have seen the entire season know the identity of the other candidate.

    • @yournanaxel533
      @yournanaxel533 Před 6 lety +3

      Won't have the opportunity to watch the 2nd season because of netflix's payment options being a mess here in germany so, could you perhaps tell me who it is?

    • @patsyboatman8049
      @patsyboatman8049 Před 6 lety

      You are right

    • @Ickdaogda
      @Ickdaogda Před 6 lety

      It was

  • @LiamChaidez
    @LiamChaidez Před rokem +8

    Spoilers!!
    The demogorgon, Brenner part kinda makes sense after ST 4. If 001 became Vecna, maybe other test subjects became the Demogorgons. And maybe the demo dogs are…actual…dogs
    Idk, I’m tired

  • @mrspookyfella7669
    @mrspookyfella7669 Před rokem +11

    So I’m watching this now that the first part of season 4 is out and the fact that this theory still holds some merit is cool, as 001 is 011 counterpart and he controls the monsters in the other world, he would have the same powers as 011 as they all get there powers from him.

  • @monadoartist6790
    @monadoartist6790 Před 6 lety +377

    I love how “Deception and Lies” was Flowey.

  • @malcolmpul4409
    @malcolmpul4409 Před 3 lety +301

    Scariest part is Mike's DM-ing. I mean seriously, the guy throws a CR 26 monster at a party where Fireball is their greatest asset.

    • @jacksonegan9795
      @jacksonegan9795 Před 3 lety +13

      IKR?! Guy's a jerk.

    • @thomaseward
      @thomaseward Před 3 lety +4

      Did you check the CR of the Demogorgon in the edition that they would most likely be playing or did you just use the stats for the edition you're playing?

    • @malcolmpul4409
      @malcolmpul4409 Před 3 lety +9

      @@thomaseward Regardless, in every edition from 1st to 5th, he's recognized as the literal Prince of Demons rivalling Orcus himself, and so I'd imagine that's pretty tough

    • @themisfitowl2595
      @themisfitowl2595 Před 3 lety +10

      Don't knock Fireball my dude. I've seen some players do amazing things with the spell!
      Also lest we forget, the first editions of D&D actually were very hard and party killing was part of the game. Look up Gary Gygax, one of the co founders of D&D.
      Mike, Lucas, Dustin, and Will are playing AD&D (Advanced Rules) which would later become 2nd Edition so it makes sense that he would be harder on them actually.

    • @DawnsonRPGs
      @DawnsonRPGs Před 2 lety

      I know!!! Is he trying to TPK them?

  • @therayosunshinexx
    @therayosunshinexx Před rokem +7

    coming back after season 4… and im surprised on how this isnt entirely off. considering the hivemind, the demogorgon by technicality would be vecna/one, making this theory pretty accurate. would like to see stranger things revisited either before volume 2 or season 5 :)

  • @blackswan7568
    @blackswan7568 Před rokem +4

    You were so close, MatPat. So close to the truth.

  • @Infinity_Squad
    @Infinity_Squad Před 3 lety +737

    5:57 I feel bad for mat because of how sure he was on his “theory” and it ended up completely wrong... (edit) still commenting on this? I understand the word theory. I'm sorry, Mat. I appreciate the evidence you work off of.
    (Edit 2) Goodbye Mat I finished season 4

    • @Dramoklos
      @Dramoklos Před 3 lety +80

      I means that's what theories are for, what if experiments

    • @shadowlukagamer5628
      @shadowlukagamer5628 Před 3 lety +61

      It did not go completely wrong. He never said that she would look like Demogorgon and become evil. What he said in video and parallels are too much like each other. Also powers too but ofc there is som one who disagrees

    • @TheDragolf
      @TheDragolf Před 2 lety +5

      He's usually wrong

    • @litterbox0192
      @litterbox0192 Před 2 lety +23

      no the directors just changed the plot right after he uploaded this video

    • @imdoinglaundry
      @imdoinglaundry Před 2 lety +12

      Come back to this comment when you finish season 4...

  • @meijaborowski5928
    @meijaborowski5928 Před 6 lety +484

    11 is the same number right side up, and upside down..
    You know what other number does that?
    8

  • @lemmedie
    @lemmedie Před 2 lety +8

    I feel like matpat stopped doing theories on stranger things cause even the hard-core don't know what's happening

  • @EricChristensen11
    @EricChristensen11 Před 7 měsíci +3

    This makes sense because in the first episode some thing takes well and a lot of people think it’s Vecna when this could easily just be the upside down counterpart of 11 with the same psychic powers

  • @lylalamoureaux4669
    @lylalamoureaux4669 Před 3 lety +1505

    I know this isn't true, but dang! You still convinced me!

    • @dokkan6662
      @dokkan6662 Před 2 lety +27

      F for all the people who don’t watch stranger things and saw ur comment when turning on the video

    • @naujrl
      @naujrl Před 2 lety +5

      @@dokkan6662 lucky I watched it when it came out and just wanted to watch it again

    • @vicom5670
      @vicom5670 Před 2 lety +2

      In season three, last episode, we can see the demogorgon being captive by the russians, so yeah

    • @curtdog647
      @curtdog647 Před 2 lety +14

      That's how a lot of his theories go. They aren't true but they convince me

    • @dattboiiaiden455
      @dattboiiaiden455 Před 2 lety +1

      Bruh

  • @joshuagraham5750
    @joshuagraham5750 Před 6 lety +2589

    Matpat is always right except when he’s not.....

    • @12DAMDO
      @12DAMDO Před 6 lety +87

      Genji _343 this is 1 of those times where he failed miserably...

    • @kimbrolyy
      @kimbrolyy Před 6 lety +38

      It could still be true tho

    • @anthonypresley2455
      @anthonypresley2455 Před 6 lety +22

      no no it cant be watch the 2nd season

    • @JulianOpus
      @JulianOpus Před 6 lety +4

      Genji _343 *true*

    • @Cool_Beansiest
      @Cool_Beansiest Před 6 lety +22

      Yeah, because there is an 8.

  • @radioactive.mermaid
    @radioactive.mermaid Před rokem +4

    Okay, obviously this is wrong, BUT, he points out so much stuff that was actually pointing to Vecna, it's actually kind of funny

  • @vladhuziconschi406
    @vladhuziconschi406 Před rokem +4

    Season 4 spoiler. MatPat... YOU WERE FREAKING RIGHT! In a way... Eleven did open the Upside Down portal and created vecna (not the demorgon).

  • @laylagragamingvlogsandmore3515

    Wait, but in the real world.... Eleven is trying to save Will with the boys, but in the upside down, the Demogorgan is trying to kill Will. Now, you might be thinking now "MIRROR IMAGE'' opposites right? No, if The Demogorgan wants to kill Brenner like you said, then it has the same feelings as Eleven, but hatred of Will doesn't have logic in the package. Also, Joyce is not an enemy to Eleven, and Eleven wouldn't see her as one. Why does the Demogorgan go to Joyce's house and try to kill her?????? No hate MatPat still love your vids! Like this so he can see this!!

    • @user-it2wp8ql5v
      @user-it2wp8ql5v Před 6 lety

      I can't really put into words what I'm really thinking so it's a bit messy, but I think the Demogorgon goes to Joyce's house because of Will. Seeing as Will was in the shed, right behind the house, it would be natural for him to go back to his house and hide. Will could call through dimensions sometimes but not might be able to hear/be heard because it's across dimensions. As Joyce picks up the phone, she can make a link, the Demogorgon can return to our world and kill/take whatever is on the other side. Because it's like a wild animal, it doesn't really care about what else it actually kills. It just needs food.

    • @jakub9640
      @jakub9640 Před 6 lety

      actually I think the demogorgan is trying to save will. Think about it, it caught will first, yet it didn't kill him for ages, but instead ate barbara

    • @user-it2wp8ql5v
      @user-it2wp8ql5v Před 6 lety +3

      That doesn't make sense seeing as it took Will in the first place and it attacks pretty much every living thing it comes across. The only reason Will survived was because he was able to hide. When Will was hiding in Castle Byers, the Demogorgon also destroyed it and almost caught him. Barb also had the opportunity to run away but was pretty slow getting out of the pool.

    • @Spidey-ek4sy
      @Spidey-ek4sy Před 6 lety

      Don't forget about barb

    • @joshuahunt4528
      @joshuahunt4528 Před 6 lety

      LaylaGra// GAMING// VLOGS// AND MORE!!!

  • @AlyssaPerrine
    @AlyssaPerrine Před 6 lety +442

    I wanna point out that in season 2 Mike said he called eleven for 353 night....
    3 + 3 + 5 = 11

  • @sydneyburke1107
    @sydneyburke1107 Před rokem +4

    4 years later season 4 is out and he’s basically right just got the wrong people but the theory holds true

  • @emotyy
    @emotyy Před rokem +2

    matpat really guessed alot of the plot for the 4th season on the 1st season my guy's a legend

  • @Sami-ju4qe
    @Sami-ju4qe Před 3 lety +408

    Me: **Gets so hyped up about this theory**
    Stranger Things: Hah no

    • @renukakumarababu1063
      @renukakumarababu1063 Před 2 lety +3

      Season 4 of st there is a worm out of her leg, proving that her power is a source of the upside down realm

    • @fart63
      @fart63 Před 2 lety +4

      @@renukakumarababu1063 the worm wasn’t there before so how did she have powers before lol? And when she was younger, before they knew about the upside down at all, how did she have her powers then?

    • @-Skidisme.Iamskid-
      @-Skidisme.Iamskid- Před 2 lety +3

      Is that a Hazbin Hotel reference?

    • @sw4gyhenry399
      @sw4gyhenry399 Před rokem

      @@fart63 yeah she makes it so how she have her powers before

    • @IMACRAZYRAINBOW
      @IMACRAZYRAINBOW Před rokem

      @@renukakumarababu1063 3

  • @everlim-trinidad6490
    @everlim-trinidad6490 Před 4 lety +755

    MatPat: *theory exists *
    Mind Flayer:im bout to end this man’s whole career

    • @chronicmedisorder
      @chronicmedisorder Před 4 lety +7

      EXACTLY!

    • @Chara_Dreemurr1
      @Chara_Dreemurr1 Před 4 lety +2

      CURSE YOU MIND FLARE WHY YOU GOTTA BRING MAT TO THE UPSIDE DOWN THE ONLY PLACE WHERE YOU CAN HURT PEOPLE.

    • @natestone5799
      @natestone5799 Před 3 lety +4

      or instead of the Demogorgon, the mind flayer is eleven's actual counterpart

    • @Chara_Dreemurr1
      @Chara_Dreemurr1 Před 3 lety +1

      @@natestone5799 no no there's more evidence of eleven and the demogorgon being counterparts because of their simalarities and connection

    • @tusharsingh-mk8zj
      @tusharsingh-mk8zj Před 3 lety +1

      Ya lol... Maybe they watched matpats videos and thought he has debunked it all... So they changed everything the extreme last minute... You can never know what really happened😂😳

  • @raynaldotornado6265
    @raynaldotornado6265 Před rokem +4

    I watched this theory back 4 years ago and now that season 4 is out some of matpats speculations and theories prove him right.

  • @AlinaRaven
    @AlinaRaven Před 2 lety +5

    Even after watching all of the seasons out right now and knowing everything that's happened and such, this is still really cool and convincing

  • @jaeggger
    @jaeggger Před 6 lety +349

    If this theory is true does that mean the demagorgans real name is negative 11

    • @ElPenguino
      @ElPenguino Před 6 lety +15

      Panquaker I hate you. Take my damn like

    • @darth1nsidious726
      @darth1nsidious726 Před 6 lety +10

      Here take my like
      Take my reply
      Take my sub
      Take my cookie
      🍪

    • @TheWeco
      @TheWeco Před 6 lety +6

      Well yeah, for additive identity. I'd rather use 1/11.

    • @sophiacueto902
      @sophiacueto902 Před 6 lety +5

      Or it could be reciprocal. 1/11

    • @garystinten9339
      @garystinten9339 Před 6 lety +3

      Nevele.

  • @gabrielallende1095
    @gabrielallende1095 Před 6 lety +632

    Lol I just finished season 2 and you were right...
    ...When you said season 2 might have *NOTHING* to do with this! XD

    • @emilylopez3163
      @emilylopez3163 Před 6 lety +5

      NurdzShotFirst _ i mean right when he said eleven I connected I was no no no no will is connected to that shadow thing

    • @philipclark4606
      @philipclark4606 Před 6 lety

      NurdzShotFirst _ haha yeah i know

    • @philipclark4606
      @philipclark4606 Před 6 lety +4

      Eleven could be connected to the Mind Flayre. It controlled the demodogs so why not the demogorgon

    • @lancewalker2595
      @lancewalker2595 Před 6 lety +8

      For that theory to hold ground it would have to be stated that the Mind Flayre has only existed in conjunction to Eleven. Which is ridiculous. The entity , and therefore the dimension of the upsidedown is as old as time itself.

    • @mariaotero9770
      @mariaotero9770 Před 6 lety

      NurdzShotFirst _ he was right partly... it wasn't eleven the other half of the monster. Okay now I shut up

  • @scottlefaivre6889
    @scottlefaivre6889 Před 2 lety +6

    Okay Pat I just had to say I have not been changed all of your theories like I have binged other very talented CZcamsrs I E
    Ryan George but all the ones I have seen it is literally crazy the fact that the things that you theorize are extremely apparent as possible truth in every movie film theory video I have seen so far. Well done

  • @mattrandom2232
    @mattrandom2232 Před rokem +3

    Five years later and still we don’t know if it’s correct or not

  • @cosmowiele4909
    @cosmowiele4909 Před 6 lety +55

    Gotta love that diet coke 10:15

  • @MoontheWolfYT
    @MoontheWolfYT Před 4 lety +1132

    When Eleven says that she's "the monster" she was saying that she was the one who _opened_ the gate for the Demogorgon to escape, not that she was _literally_ the Demogorgon.

  • @dancesmokesmile344
    @dancesmokesmile344 Před 2 měsíci +3

    It’s a pretty good theory compared to season 4. He got really close, so early, we just didn’t know it until years later

  • @totally.tubular7668
    @totally.tubular7668 Před rokem +6

    4:26 SPOILER ! he isn’t all wrong, I mean from season 4 we know that 001 (Henry/vecna) tried to get eleven to join him but she declined, and since then he has tried to get her by sending monsters from the upsidedown do curse their town and specially find eleven until vecna decides to do it himself in season 4. And in season 3, mindflayed-billy said he is building something FOR eleven. Like hopper said, it always wants her for some reason. Now we know the reason.

    • @marofan47
      @marofan47 Před rokem

      But this vid is 4 years old...

    • @totally.tubular7668
      @totally.tubular7668 Před rokem

      @@marofan47 yeah i know that? i’m just saying, it’s kinda surprising bc he was right for some of it

  • @justadumbmeme5674
    @justadumbmeme5674 Před 6 lety +162

    *12 hours later...*
    Comment section: WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG

  • @jordyn2579
    @jordyn2579 Před 6 lety +450

    It's 2018 MatPat and you still haven't made strangest things
    Lol wait am I the only one who was actually waiting for this

  • @mercedesswan7205
    @mercedesswan7205 Před rokem +3

    Lol. Love how MatPat keeps calling 11 L. Makes me think of L from DeathNote. 😂😂

  • @furbyfan567
    @furbyfan567 Před 8 měsíci +2

    the 2 head matpat was hilarious!

  • @Wheaty03
    @Wheaty03 Před 6 lety +452

    Netflix's new original show
    strangeriest things

  • @littlebugboy
    @littlebugboy Před 6 lety +102

    Two channels can make similar theories without it being stealing. It just means it's a popular theory.....

    • @okamiinuzuka6270
      @okamiinuzuka6270 Před 6 lety +2

      especially if you consider this is a fan theory based vid. OF COURSE multiple people are gonna make a similar idea

    • @daydream9854
      @daydream9854 Před 6 lety

      This is like the most popular theory out there

  • @mr.peabody6021
    @mr.peabody6021 Před 2 lety +8

    I have to say even though this theory is completely wrong, this is a cool theory to come-up with. Well done matpat

  • @dancesmokesmile344
    @dancesmokesmile344 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Turns out after season 4 a lot of it is actually correct. Just about 1 instead of 11. And also, 11 isn’t the demogorgon, but she did open the portal and she helped create Vecna.

  • @RegitYouTuber
    @RegitYouTuber Před 6 lety +1525

    Studying Stranger Things for Media A-level
    I've never seen it don't know what to expect.

  • @absolutelyshmooie7086
    @absolutelyshmooie7086 Před 4 lety +460

    No, 11 is not deception and *lies*
    “Friends don’t lie” - 11

    • @blue__lama
      @blue__lama Před 4 lety +7

      But she has lied multible times

    • @Shanghaibluelulu
      @Shanghaibluelulu Před 4 lety +8

      Real Shmooie Then she lied when she said that!

    • @Shanghaibluelulu
      @Shanghaibluelulu Před 4 lety +5

      I have lied to my friends, too! (yes I’m a bad person

    • @leonpankau4634
      @leonpankau4634 Před 4 lety +7

      I think mat pat meant her backstory by saying she represents deception and lies.

    • @Whosniiina
      @Whosniiina Před 4 lety +3

      You lie to not hurt ur friends feelings

  • @lt.lunatic1277
    @lt.lunatic1277 Před rokem +2

    The reason why the Demogorgon goes after Papa or Brenner is because one/Henry/vecna hates Brenner for capturing him and testing on him.

  • @whitelight7
    @whitelight7 Před rokem +2

    It's so fun to watch this after the new one released for Season 4 and think "he's right, but he's also wrong"

  • @imcarrineee
    @imcarrineee Před 6 lety +153

    "When there's something strange in the neighborhood who u gonna call?"
    Me: *THE NERDS*
    Edit: "MIKE DROP😂"

  • @winterx9304
    @winterx9304 Před 4 lety +486

    Mat: That's basically what happens in season 1
    Doesn't even mention Will

  • @gamertamer2840
    @gamertamer2840 Před rokem +5

    Did you guys notice vecna at 7:52

  • @lizillusion2318
    @lizillusion2318 Před rokem +1

    I like how even with the inaccuracies, if you just factor Vecna in and the Demogorgon's connection to HIM rather than El, MatPat... isn't entirely wrong. After all, One would also have his minions specifically target Dr. Brenner.

  • @muffincatinatin7123
    @muffincatinatin7123 Před 6 lety +207

    I beg your pardon.
    It's "demodog"

    • @KazumiKiguma
      @KazumiKiguma Před 6 lety +14

      My name is Doug Dimmadome, owner of the Dimmsdale Dimmadome. Would you happen to have seen my Demadog?
      Sorry, after they named it I could not get that out of my head.

    • @zenrowen8071
      @zenrowen8071 Před 6 lety +2

      Rukifellth xD

    • @Poilu_Du_Sud
      @Poilu_Du_Sud Před 6 lety +3

      Muffin cat in a tin justice for mews

    • @itz_brenden9456
      @itz_brenden9456 Před 6 lety +3

      Muffin cat in a tin No sir, I beg YOUR pardon, it’s DemoDoge

    • @muffincatinatin7123
      @muffincatinatin7123 Před 6 lety

      Omg guys you're funny
      Sorry for not replying cause google plus is not working for me rn

  • @appleoatie
    @appleoatie Před 5 lety +400

    Looks at watch
    Mom: Time for bed!
    Me: Ok
    Mom: Goodnight!
    Me: Ok.
    Mom leaves
    turns firestick on to watch more film and game theories.

  • @nina_ma12
    @nina_ma12 Před rokem +2

    That’s Vecna, the writers planned Vecna from the very first season 9:15

    • @BostYT
      @BostYT Před rokem

      Yeah matpat said that

  • @AyoooItsHunter
    @AyoooItsHunter Před rokem +2

    Watching this after Season 4 Volume 1, I love watching how confident he was on this one, just to get it wrong. Good job Matpat

  • @AllUsernamesTaken
    @AllUsernamesTaken Před 6 lety +372

    L'ego my eggo

  • @thefaultinmybts1196
    @thefaultinmybts1196 Před 6 lety +2238

    Watching this 53 mins away from season 2

  • @Xinyayy
    @Xinyayy Před rokem +1

    i made a theory of my own, so basically i think that since eleven opened the gate to let the upside down leak into the normal world
    perhaps this demogorgon had a connection to the first ones, or was one of the first ones itselves because we dont know how long these could live
    and maybe it was aware of the fact eleven opened the gate somehow and decided to choose brenner as its target, as a thank you to the person who let this creature in

  • @user-kz4wm7sg7f
    @user-kz4wm7sg7f Před 2 měsíci +1

    I would love to see 1:
    The guy in the corner turning the lights on and off
    and 2:
    How many lightbulbs they went through

  • @justinyehuda5565
    @justinyehuda5565 Před 4 lety +466

    *SPOILER ALERT*
    Can we get predictions on season 4/Is Hopper still alive?

    • @johnclayton4946
      @johnclayton4946 Před 4 lety +5

      How can he still be alive? I mean would he hide from Eleven that long only if the Russians got him but I don't think so! We will see!

    • @justinyehuda5565
      @justinyehuda5565 Před 4 lety +23

      @@johnclayton4946 maybe he jumped into the upside down gate (there was still a gap) or something

    • @emilkhojayev4645
      @emilkhojayev4645 Před 4 lety +29

      I am pretty sure he is because they showed the prison in Russian and they said that there was an American there plus David Hopper put numbers on his profile picture which were the coordinates for kamchatka. Something like that

    • @MrGoobus
      @MrGoobus Před 4 lety +4

      hes alive

    • @MrGoobus
      @MrGoobus Před 4 lety +8

      as the machine explodes he aint there hes in russia or the upside down also he easily could have came and turned the key with joyce.

  • @bomba4052
    @bomba4052 Před 5 lety +646

    Where is the "Strangest Things" show?

  • @dwaynewade1072
    @dwaynewade1072 Před rokem +2

    Matpat: "Coincidence? Obviousley not."
    Me in 2022: 🤣

  • @cambria2006
    @cambria2006 Před rokem +3

    When you are watching this while waiting for the rest of the 4th season to come out. 🤣

  • @KeoniTurner
    @KeoniTurner Před 6 lety +64

    I like this... I'm just really dissapointed uou didn't use Nancy saying "It's Just A Theory."

  • @erinryan4534
    @erinryan4534 Před 6 lety +37

    I know Gaten Matarazzo (Dustin) watches your videos because he always refrences your videos. He talked about Mario being a phycopath and in IT all the loser club are shiners. He must've been so excited when he saw this theory!

  • @moonsbottom1829
    @moonsbottom1829 Před rokem +4

    its funny how we are on season 4 and we knnow this is not true but it still convinced me

  • @almoghome5784
    @almoghome5784 Před 9 měsíci +1

    i love how everyone came back to comment on how he pridcted season4 trying to predicted season2
    like 4-3yrs later

  • @paige7923
    @paige7923 Před 4 lety +1006

    PLEASE MAKE A STRANGEST THINGS SEASON 3 THEORY
    like so he can see
    Edit : I made this before s3 was out, and looking back on it I realize that it would be the same as every other theory video and it wouldn't be good

    • @bighotman6417
      @bighotman6417 Před 4 lety +3

      I don’t think that’d be a good one honestly

    • @paige7923
      @paige7923 Před 4 lety +2

      @@bighotman6417 the show is to much for even matpat

    • @hambuga476
      @hambuga476 Před 4 lety +4

      Paige C. It’s not that much.....
      at least for me

    • @ibucheetah881
      @ibucheetah881 Před 4 lety

      @Niccc I already found a theory. I rewatched season 3 and found that Hopper is actually alive

    • @ibucheetah881
      @ibucheetah881 Před 4 lety

      @niccc reviewed season 3 and already found a theory, Hopper is alive

  • @peblezQ
    @peblezQ Před 6 lety +42

    I loved the photoshopped Mike Wheeler falling down the screen when you said "Mic dropped"

  • @Je11ybeans
    @Je11ybeans Před rokem +4

    POV: your watching this in 2022 after season four has been released and know about vecna and that there's more then one demogorgon

  • @tinawynn2916
    @tinawynn2916 Před rokem +1

    Hey I just love how we just randomly get a let go my ego reference

  • @jackzicrosky
    @jackzicrosky Před 6 lety +292

    the "demagorgon" dies but El does not... EXPLAIN

  • @PR18_
    @PR18_ Před 4 lety +199

    I like in the recap he didn’t talk bout will lol
    (After season 3 people where u at)

    • @kaelhorth
      @kaelhorth Před 4 lety +1

      Hello after season 3 person. I am one of you

    • @rwdypiper3622
      @rwdypiper3622 Před 4 lety +1

      Same here. R.I.P Alexi😢😢😢😢

    • @imadeslowdown
      @imadeslowdown Před 4 lety

      me, TOTALLY.
      oh god, you should just see my bedroom...

  • @Jade_Dragon
    @Jade_Dragon Před 2 lety +2

    Mike dropped. *Image of Mike Wheeler falls*
    This had me cracking up

  • @wendy4324
    @wendy4324 Před rokem +2

    Ahh remember the good old days when a single demogorgon was the biggest known threat

  • @DHEERAJJAINGHORAWATH
    @DHEERAJJAINGHORAWATH Před 6 lety +680

    Said MIC DROPPED!! Actually dropped MIKE. 😂😂😂

    • @jonahmcguire
      @jonahmcguire Před 6 lety +4

      I hope mike is okay.

    • @adityapramod4897
      @adityapramod4897 Před 6 lety +2

      I lost it then.....

    • @SAEYOUNGEE
      @SAEYOUNGEE Před 6 lety +9

      Did you see my bag?

    • @iqra2956
      @iqra2956 Před 6 lety +7

      MochiLili モチリリ yeah I'm on the mountain yeah I'm on the bay.

    • @akari707bangtan
      @akari707bangtan Před 6 lety +8

      Sorry, Billboard. Sorry, Worldwide. Your son is too hot. Sorry, Mom. 😂😂😂

  • @glitchmnky6159
    @glitchmnky6159 Před 6 lety +418

    THIS THEORY IS STILL CORRECT. Heres why...: First of all, most of the evidence in the video still holds up and applies to season two, HOWEVER, the theory is wrong in the sense that Eleven in the Demogorgon. No... Eleven is the Upside Down. Why is this? When Eleven was in the sensory deprivation tank and she saw the monster, she was asked to confront it. She saw herself as a monster because of the way she was treated at the Hawkins Lab. When she touched the monster and realized the way she thought of herself was true, she opened "The Gate" to the upside down. The Upside Down is a physical representation of the inside of her mind. Becase of her upbringing, she saw the world as a dark, twisted place, and she saw herself as the Monster, which ruled over the place. The reason there are Demodogs is becuase she sees herself as having many flaws. She sees herself as not pretty, she sees herself as a bad friend becuase of how badly she was accepted by Lucas, she thinks she is a bad daughter becuase of the fight between her and hopper, etc. All of these things are small problems in a whole person. This would also explain why they operate as a hive mind. The Mind Flayer is the Monster eleven sees herself as, and the Demodogs are her personal demons that are under the control of the Mind Flayer. Eleven, not being able to think rationally because of her upbringing, is forced her to deal with her problems with physical representations, becuase thats the only way she knows how, which is why the upside down exists in the first place. Also, notice how the upside down only starts to spread when Eleven is angered with Hopper for not letting her leave and explore, and the vines are the representation of her mind wanting to expand and be free. As for the reason that the Mind Flayer didnt exist in season one, heres why. Eleven's representation of herself as the monster only increased with her powers. She wasnt very strong in season One, and thats why her opposite self was a single, grown demogorgon. At the end of season one, she defeats the demogorgon, and they both dissapear into the upside down in a tornado of ash. What is the Mind flayer made out of? Pillars of ash. Her power are exponentially higher in season two, from being able to drag a train to closing an interdimensional gate. Therefore, the mind flayer is just like the Demogorgon, but way more pwerful, just liker her. The battle at the end when Eleven closes the gate represents the eternal struggle of duality within her. The Mind Flayer representing Lies and Deception (As shown in the episode "The Spy" where, the Mind Flayer makes Will lie to kill the lab soldiers) and Eleven representing insanity, seeing herself as a freak. So all in all, the theory still hold up, but as Eleven grows, so does the upside down, asn the monsters within it. This whole thing is truly a love letter to the Dr. Jeckyll and Mr Hyde story. Tell me what you guys think.

  • @lastnamesammy
    @lastnamesammy Před 2 lety +2

    Even if MatPat wasn't right, I still think it's really fun to come back to these videos and just, enjoy them

  • @chompy_didit8399
    @chompy_didit8399 Před 2 lety +4

    I honestly feel bad for MatPat because there was so much evidence to prove this was true!