Spider Man: No Way Home DESTROYS The M-She-U | The Last Great Superhero Film?
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- Warning SPOILERS Spider-Man: No Way Home is CRUSHING real box office records and DESTROYING M-She-U fan narratives. This is a rare thing these days. A collective escapist experience en masse. Just in time for Fandom, Hollywood and Sony. Who is in the driver seat now. Oh, to be a fly on the wall in the next Sony/Disney Spider-Man negotiations.
Spider-Man: No Way Home may have some flaws, but the good far outweighs the bad and I would go so far to say the last half is brilliant and more importantly fun. It may also be the last great superhero film.
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Best part was knowing Andrew Garfield got to finally complete his Spiderman arc through this amazing film!
Did he, though?
The look on his face after he saves (SPOILER) M.J. had me in *tears*
I was still recovering from that totally unexpected death earlier in the movie so his 'closure' for the character really hit me.
I literally teared up when he, let's just say, got some closure.
Andrew Garfield's attempt at a Spiderman saga stunk monkey ass.
@@darknotered7425 To be fair, Sony did the too many villains thing twice in Amazing Spiderman 2 and it came out as all set up with no payoff.
For me, seeing Toby back as Spidey, was worth the ticket price alone.
I totally agree.
Every penny of the 122 spent for the family to see this movie was worth it.
You will rewatch this after the hype pases and realize how utterly terrible this is, just pops in through portal not shocked goes into some cheesy cringe emotional crap. SHOULD have had them on edge for just being put into different reality and spidey sense have them first show fighting as spiderman. You people have no taste and are sheep, Jurassic world level dumb
@Tv Box how do people like this film, its blasmphemy
nice pun btw
The end credit scene where Peter goes back to being a nobody in an apartment listening to police scanners made me well up! I loved it!
resembles me more to the Tobey's Spider-Man, good things to come :)
Y'all obviously NEVER actually read spider man comics so it's only natural for you two dimwits to get wet get wet for inaccurate depictions of spider-man.
I've been hearing a lot how Garfield stole the show which I was pretty unsurprised to hear. It was always clear to me he'd be an amazing Peter Parker if somebody would just give the guy a good script. He's a great actor that I'm glad did the role proud.
He's the best pure Peter Parker of the 3 in my opinion. He just never got a good script
Been saying this for 7 years now. So happy to see him finally get his due.
Now if they can just pull the same move with Cavill's Superman. XD
Yeah, even though no way home was lots of fun to look at and all BUT it was still just a super big disappointment for big time Spider-Man readers like myself who not only had a hard time continuing to enjoy the comics after the ill-begotten "one more day"DEBACLE but we're also willing to overlook the ABSOLUTE butchering of EVERY single Spidey supporting character in Homecoming. Honestly to me the only way the Spidey movies can redeem themselves is if it's revealed in SPIDER¬MAN🕸️4...FRIENDLY🕸️NEIGHBORHOOD Uncle Ben has actually been alive the whole time and only out of the picture because he's been in another state or in Witness Protection for something having to do with Peter's parents being spies working with Nick Fury. Or living in Portland cuz he and "Aunt Marissa To-May"had a bitter break up due to the fact that she was caught up in a promiscuous left-leaning LGBT protest Queen scene which drove them apart, but they were still technically married. Aunt May's Funeral would be the catalyst that brought him back to New York. Which would eventually lead to him meeting Peter Parker for the first time. Plus a special guest appearance by The Punisher and Fantastic Four!
@@darth-g0ldaR Look, I'm not gonna lie, I know this is a joke and meant to be a terrible idea but I would watch that movie. Especially if they did it as some over the top ridiculous comedy that just knew what it was. Absurd to the level of surreal.
I absolutely _loved_ this movie. Sure Toby was great, but Andrew Garfield totally redeemed himself. Tom was spectacular. & Wilhelm Defoe stole the show. He was even better than he was the last time he played that role
Loved his costume change at the end.
Wasn't a fan of douche spiderman but glad his fans got some service. Toby will always be my Spider-Man
I said the same thing when I came out of the movie theater. Marvel redeemed Andrew Garfield perfectly. Something Sony wasn't able to.
Wilhelm
the charater logic in this film is jurassic world brain dead stuff
This movie gave me something I've never seen in an Irish cinema before...actual cheering. Andrew Garfield got a great cheer when he appeared, but when Tobey Maguire appeared the cheer went up several notches. Amazing.
Yeah, it's been a long time since I've heard cheering in an American theater. But there was a lot of happy cheering when Garfield and Maguire showed up over here too.
I really don't get why people love Tobey Macguire so much. I don't recall his performance as spider-man being all that exceptional.
@@craigwelter5862
My god there are a lot of miserable people like you here.
Fake fans who will never make a movie of their own. Its so easy to take shots at something created.
Tobey was the best spider man.could be because they were the best spiderman movie's.
I don't agree with Aunt May saying "With great power comes great responsibility" being an M-She-U thing, I see it more as an aunt telling her nephew something he needs to hear in what will undoubtedly be his darkest hour, and her happening to say something her husband said is less of a female character taking something from a male character and more of a female character reinforcing something she learned from a male character.
THIS! Peter already had a male role model in the form of Tony Stark and a fake role model in the form of Misterio.
At that point the only mentor Peter had left was his aunt, this was a moment of aunt May realizing she is dying and using her last moments to convey an important message to her nephew. She didn't stole anyone spot because that spot was rightfully hers.
I was OK with it as Holland didn't have the Uncle Ben equivalent so Aunt May is the stand-in, plus it made sense in the moment as the consequences of his decision led to her death. Finally because the other two name-dropped Uncle Ben it can be considered respectful
That was why exact thought
exactly,
something her husband said? what husband?
I actually didn't see Aunt May telling Peter the "great power" line as a M-SHE-U moment. It didn't feel forced or pushing a propaganda down my throat.
To be real I think in the original comic aunt May was actually the first one to say it not uncle Ben
@@rubenjackson840 Actually, neither of them said the line in "Amazing Fantasy #15", Stan Lee wrote in that line himself in the final panel.
Yea, it actually make sense why Peter is being the Peter Parker we all know and love in a different detail yet same vibes.
@@SpFlash1523 *Mandala Effect* has entered chat
I think it feels like an “M-SHE-U” moment because they didn’t acknowledge the existence of uncle Ben.
I agree with Dafoe and Garfield stealing the show, but to me, Dafoe edges slightly above Garfield... Dafoe does such a convincing switch between the Green Goblin and Norman Osborne that it feels like two different actors - that's some talent!
He is a real actor, not an adult pretender.
@@aahzmandiaz2767 Hard Fax, take notes Brie Larperson
@@notasinglesoul1179
So we are gonna compare one of the best actors in the movie with Brie Larsson? And you think you make a point?
@@lumpyrex007 In a world where people were up in arms because Jennifer Lawrence got $5 millions less than DiCaprio for a movie they both starred in? Yes we are.
I have no doubt in my mind that the same would happen if you replace DiCaprio and Lawrence by Dafoe and Larson.
@@jihigh482
Just random dude
Interesting to hear that you saw Aunt May's words as M-She-U writing. I saw it more as them fixing the fact that they'd never done the Uncle Ben thing. It's like the one constant across the multiverse that Peter needs to suffer that moment if tragedy before understanding what it means to be Spider-Man. They'd omitted Ben from these films so had to do it with her, and since she went the way of Uncle Ben, that's her out of the picture for good now.
Yeah, I really don't get people hating on that moment. It makes perfect sense the way they did it imo.
No dude, this movie was woke SJW trash, pandering to people who don’t even know shit about Spider-Man.
I understand why they did it that way but the whole spiderman "home" series needed at least one uncle ben scene
@@bigpapazo the “woke” series needed to have burnt to death. Spider-Man is dead and anyone who defends this piece of crap is an SJW msheu shill
It was M-She-U if they wanted they could have Aunt May, "Remember what your Uncle Ben used to say... " and then say the line
Andrew Garfield totally nailed it. I loved watching him get the recognition he deserves. Hope they make TASM3 movie with him. He deserves it. This movie made audiences go back to the theatres which shows that if the movie is worth it, audiences will go to the theatres. It doesn't matter if it's a pandemic or not. Most importantly they didn't push THE MESSAGE. no virtue signalling. Just pure action and fighting bad guys. Can't wait for more movies like this. Bring back matt murdock!!!
I was gonna wait for it to come to disney+ but then everyone that isn't about "the message" raved about it Sobieski I'll go to see it in theatres. I'm taking the same approach with doctor strange 2. I'll wait to see what AZ, Gary, and yellowflash have to say first
@@capo4ever334 I wasn't really interested in this after the trailers. Even with so many people saying it was good, I found it hard to believe. But I decided to go see it in the theater, and they were right. This is a great movie. Definitely worth seeing on the big screen.
What message?
This movie was worth popping positive for Covid-19.
@@craigwelter5862 I wouldn't go that far. 8 years ago I'm pretty sure it'd just be a standard action blockbuster.
But Hollyweird has *really* dropped the bar and the ball, lowering our expectations.
It was definitely worth it though, and they ALL busted their asses. Too bad for them Dafoe owned those sets like Betty Davis *AND* Joan Crawford...
I was ok with Aunt Tomei delivering the Power/Responsibility line. A big part of the Parker/Spiderman dichotomy is his difficulty balancing his two lives. The one thing that Maguire's and Garfield's Parkers experienced that Holland's hasn't is the loss of someone *that* close to him. Yes, he experienced the loss of Stark, but they were technically colleagues and Stark sacrificed himself, it wasn't Holland's fault.
The deaths of Uncle Ben and Gwen Stacy, however, were the direct result of Maguire's and Garfield's actions as Spiderman. The death of Aunt Tomei was definitely an earned death writing-wise, and it was necessary for the Holland Spiderman to evolve.
He doesn't have an Uncle Ben to deliver the line, and I'm actually glad that Aunt Tomei did and they didn't make Maguire or someone else do it. He has to hear it from someone whom he holds absolutely dear, and Aunt Tomei is the only person who fits that bill (besides Zendaya, but no way she'd get to deliver the line).
I know a lot of people complain they gave Uncle Bens line to her, but I put that down as a fault of the previous movies never establishing him. It'd just be too contrived for him to show up in this movie just to say the line, and like you said she's someone he's had the longest connection with since civil war. So to me, it is a little like m-she-u writing, but largely because they didn't have a choice going in.
Another thing is that the way she said it is the way Stan Lee said it in the original comic as a narration. That struck me as interesting because if I wanted to do a replacement of old Ben, I wouldn't have changed the line to what it was in a silver age comic that only the oldest and nerdiest among us would even know.
While I generally do enjoy Gary calling M-She-U out on all the "overt shoving of feminism down our throats", I have to give this one to Aunt May/Sony. Besides all of what @bommie and @Some Body said, it fitted Aunt May's character. It wasn't just Peter's idea to save the invaders, it was ALSO Aunt May's. It made sense at the time when she said it and it didn't came out of nowhere.
I also loved that it did subvert my expectation. I absolutely did not expect that line to be delievered then and there. Hit me like a truck. I still remembered the first two delievery of that line in the first two trilogy. I remembered vividly how hard I rolled my eyes, how it felt so cliche and corny. But I had to concede to let it pass because that was signature to Spider Man. And I also distinctly remembered when I came out of Home coming, feeling relieved that they didn't have to shoehorn that cliche, yet signature, line in the movie. The way they handle it in this movie was smooth AF. It's also such a breath of fresh air when they didn't spend too much time to build it up. It came quick and sudden. It wasn't delievered as a dying message (and take away from the emotional death scene). It just was different in all the good ways imo.
The thing is... It didn't feel forced
It was natural
It felt good when she said that
I felt sad when she died
So it served the purpose
It was anti-male-democrat propaganda there was no Uncle Ben in Tom Holland spidey movies BECAUSE Disney wants everyone to think men,fathers in particular,not just suck but are unnecessary to raise a decent person which is fundamentally not true. I really hope the people who actually enjoyed Spidey No way Home can someday understand just how terrible that movie actually is.
LOL😏okay@@adarsh.baghel.. keep telling yourself that.
Damn fine review, sir.
He got "THE MESSAGE!!!".
Hi Drinker 👋🏼💕
👏👏👏
Hail sir.
Yours wasn’t half bad either!
I think Willem Defoe's performance crushed everyone's. I was reminded why I loved the first Sam Raimi movie so much. He was simply incredible.
He went full Goblin, it was awesome.
The Goblin power bombing Parker through the floor was fucking incredible!
Is he never not great? The man's a legend. Him and Christopher Walken, both fantastic mad lads with performances. I was enjoying Walken in Batman Returns the other day, and oh boy I forgot how good he was.
@@michaelmooney5246 this. There were 3 times I thought the beat down would end. Then. Kept. Going. I can't remember seeing someone get their ass beat as bad as spidey in that scene.
LMAO those movies are just a factory memes for real, geez
I absolutely loved this film, I had forgotten what having fun at the movies was like. It was a great feeling being with friends and gasping, cheering, clapping with everyone in the theater. I have never been a person that makes noise at the movies, but seriously, this movie was made for the fans, it was a once in a lifetime experience.
As for the trailer at the end for Doctor Strange 2, I cursed and groaned out loud as soon as I saw the star on the jacket, I instantly knew it was America Chavez. Being Mexican, I absolutely ABHOR that character, everything about her is what is wrong with comics nowadays. They couldn’t even get the Spanish right in the comics and the character is so stereotypical like my gosh. Hopefully they can write her to be better like with Miles Morales in the Spiderverse movie, but I don’t know.
I think it's going to sideline Strange and character assassinate Wanda, while pushing Chavez and the Young Avengers, and stuffing the movie with pointless cameos. No Way Home's cameos feel organic, whereas Strange 2 seems to be full of random cameos.
That's how the white-liberals see people-of-color. They are taught pre-conceived notions about us and that's why they depict "people of color" as stereotypes.
It's all about the identity to these idiots. Listen to the CZcamsr THE FOURTH AGE.
@@garywintle8023 How will they sideline him when he is the main character
@@garywintle8023 welp, you predicted the future
Was it really a once in a lifetime experience? I experienced that same gasping, cheering, applause etc from the audience while watching Avengers: Endgame, Dr Strange 2 and Doctor Who's 50th at the cinema.
That 'youth pastor' joke had me busting up.
They HAVE to get these 3 together again.
And I'd gladly pay to see that "stopped pulling my punches" version of Amazing Spider-Man.
ME TOO! I would love to see a move in two acts.
Before MCU shows a broken spiderman, one that acts more like the punisher than batman and we see how it emotionally and morally breaks him. Then we see the MCU happen quickly and Andrew trying to learn from it.
Funniest thing about that joke was that my friend who was sitting behind me in the theater is a youth pastor and when that joke landed I immediately looked back him.
I loved how Spider Man: No Way Home actually had consequences just like the old movies. All though this is technically a Sony movie, I hope other Marvel movies focuses more on the story
We all know that isn't going to happen. When lady Thor comes in
@@dontgiveinfo wrong
Im convinced this next “era” of avengers films NEEDS sony to help craft these heros. I was wondering why this film felt so good and MJ wasnt her normal feminist lame self or why it wasnt packed with lame jokes. Sony did a GREAT job. This film is easily 9.5/10
its literally not its joint produced by Sony amd Disney a simple google search shows this. You are completley delusional if you think it isnt.
@@mrsanatra1 I think the movie is great but I think it's far from being a 9, it had alot of problems, plot conveniences and inconsistencies like any other movie
Great review, Gary! I know everyone is praising Andrew, but I sincerely think that it was Toby that brought it all together with the chemistry between the characters. The dude is a master at his craft. I want more Toby movies!
He is too old
I agree with you
He was always my favorite. Spider Man 2 is one of my top 3 super hero movies.
'Why not both' gif 🤣
@@mikecanul Hail, brother!
You may have had an issue with Aunt May saying the "Great Responsibility" line... but...
The movie went on to show that the best mentor for Peter Parker is.... Two more Peter Parkers!
Nicely put!
The last act of this movie was no pun intended amazing. Willem Dafoe killed it again as Green Goblin and when he goes full dark side in the third act he made you think he totally lost his mind. Toby and Andrew thankfully were not cameos but were major players in the third act.
Totally agree about Garfield and Dafoe stealing the show, though it was great seeing Tom Holland become Spider-Man after a long wait. The change in tone half way through felt that Sam Raimi had taken over the reins.
I freaking cried at the end scene. We just all watch Spider-Man grow into a man through this latest run of movies. So melancholy, him in the snow alone just being Spider-Man, the only thing he has left.
Yes tobys keen sense to stop tom from killing goblin, then gets stabbed like hes gonna die, doesnt die. then tom kills goblin, wow profound and brilliant writing
Only the uneducated and delusional ones that saw this movie, thought a good movie when clearly it was not if you were paying attention to it. This movie is a 👎👎👎. Only in Kevin Feige’s dumb little mind that Spider-Man can beat Dr.Strange in his own dimension when we all really know that dr.strange is way more powerful than Spider-Man. Also, Dr.Strange can make Spider-Man not escape from him without even trying especially in his own dimension. Don’t y’all see what’s going on here? Kevin Feige is slowly nerfing marvel characters. He did it to hulk already and now it’s Dr. Strange turn. Open your eyes people. Not rocket science to figure this one out if you have a brain 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@SUKADIK4 In fairness, the movie is only 91% as good as people are saying, but…being a lifelong comic reader and an old man, every character has bested every character at least six times since I’ve been reading. He didn’t “beat” Strange, Peter was just clever in a way that Strange did not see coming. Also, while Strange is very powerful in the mirror dimension, it’s not his nor does he rule it or have dominion over it. Sorry you didn’t enjoy a movie that came out a week ago and is already one of the most popular and critically revered movies ever made. I guess that the price you pay for being so educated.
@@SlowGraffitiVideo Again, Only the uneducated or delusional ones thought this was good when clearly it was not good if you were paying attention to it. This movie is a 👎👎👎. Mess up number 1, Only in Kevin Feige’s dumb little mind that Spider-Man can beat Dr.Strange in his own dimension when we all really know that dr.strange is way more powerful than Spider-Man and can make Spider-Man not escape from him without even trying especially in his own dimension. Mess up number 2, This movie is really all about Spider-Man getting into MIT which is definitely a dumb way building this movie around. Why didn’t he just go to another college? Not difficult to do lol. Mess up number 3, they focused way to much on the fan service side more than making an enjoyable movie. Mess up number 4, the pacing in this movie is atrocious. It drags on during multiple parts of the movie for way to long and the action in this movie was so bland.
It felt so good seeing a FUN movie for once. I left the theater feeling happy and satisfied. I’d almost forgotten what that felt like.
I completely agree. The movie was fun and well written and didn't try to force anything on me except a great story portrayed by actors who were obviously enjoying being part it. I haven't felt that with many of the MCU offerings since Endgame.
@Erik Kemeey it was but it totally had "the message". Even so, the cgi was beautiful and the martial arts choreography was brilliant. The story was the issue with that movie because they just kept slipping "the message" in.
It’s was refreshing to watch a movie that DOESN’T hate you for a change.
This makes me happy
For real! Shang-Chi was so boring! No action, humor, or good acting at all! Lmao…
This movie felt like closure having watched all the older Spiderman films and knowing about the drama that brought down their respective runs, it was nice seeing how Andrew and Toby acted and reacted. Also I'm the guy at the theater that lost it at the "I'm something of a scientist myself" in our theater
Spiderman- No Way Home
IMDB trivia:
"The phrase "With great power comes great responsibility" has become strongly associated with Spider-Man's origins thanks to Sam Raimi's well adapted origin film based around this theme. However, Aunt May's similar line in this film is not a variation or deviation of the original phrase, or of Raimi's version. Rather, Raimi's version is the variation. May's line: "With great power there must also come great responsibility" is actually the original phrase printed in the very first Spider-Man comic issue. Similarly, fans may assume that having Aunt May speak this line is a deviation of the original canon where Uncle Ben is presumed to utter the phrase. However, in the original Spider-Man comic the phrase was not said by Uncle Ben or any character at all, rather it was part of the narrator's closing commentary of the first comic book issue."
This was absolutely the movie America needs right now. It's been years since I heard the audience cheer.
1. When Matt Murdock showed up. A little cheer for that. Let's see where this is going...
2. Big cheer for Andrew Garfield. Tom Holland really needed the help.
3. Another big cheer for Tobey Maguire. He looked a bit older but yeah that's him! Yay! After AG showed up, you know TM would be there.
4. Maybe some smaller cheers for the villains too.
Imagine the cheers if they didn't put doc oc's tentacle or the pumokin bomb in the trailer
I only saw Matt Murdock before they had to cancel my screening of the film on sunday
I got chills seeing Tobey and i geeked out HARD for daredevil. It means we may actually get Netflix punisher in the MCU 😳. This film is 🐐
It has an extremely dumb story and endorses far left criminal justice reform though. Where are Gwen etc?
@Tv Box Lol. The plot for this movie is ridiculously awful. May was sacrificed for Defund the Police.
It's Infinity War/Endgame level of quality. Chris McKenna and Erik Sommers wrote a masterpiece and Director Jon Watts extracted everything each actor could give. Tobey is The Spiderman for me and I was afraid they'd Jake Skywalker him, but his Spidey was treated with respect.
He is not drinking green milk after leaving his life behind. His Spidey is still with MJ in his universe and who knows! Maybe there is a Spidey boy somewhere.
I never liked Andrew's Spidey, but man! They did the character justice in this. It goes to show how bad his movies were in that "Hollywood will Bat-Nolanarize everything" phase. Zenday was actually good in this.
I disagree with your assessment of Aunt May x the speech in this case. It was not M-She-U. She was Peter's only guardian, she was around his ups and downs since Homecoming and she earned the right to say it in my book. It was not a strange woman coming out of nowhere to say it.
I agree, but this has already held up better than Endgame. Endgame had excellent moments, but there are other moments where you can feel the cracks in the MCU armor. I've seen No Way Home four times now (yes, I need a life) and it's still pure fun
I've picked up on the fact that Nerdrotic simply dislikes MCU female characters no matter what they do. Strange
@Sara Moustamandi So what reason does he have for disliking Aunt May's line here? There was literally nothing wrong with that scene. Seems like blatant sexism
@@swerzye4472 because they suck.
@@ladydimitrescu2528 how?
Netflixs' Daredevil is probably my favorite comic book live-action adaptation of all. I kept hoping that he would get at least a cameo as Daredevil not just as Matt Murdock. Like a small fight scene where he helps Spiderman get out of a sticky situation but sadly my hopes did not come to fruition. Even so it was the best movie that I had seen all year.
It was such enjoying to finally see actors acting. They focused on the story, without delivering a „message“ to the audience. And it‘s also such a delight to see actors finally thrilled, to join a movie/project like Garfield, Maguire, Defoe, Molina, etc. Watching them, you see, that they wanted to be in it and wanted to be part of it.
My girlfriend doesn’t know much about the MCU but when Tobey appeared she screamed: Spiderman!!.
That was magic for me ❤️
In a word, No Way Home was REFRESHING.
A movie that respected what came before, honored the fans, and set out to tell a story without pushing an agenda.
There werent any marvel movies trying to "push an agenda" in the first place, which is a vague statement in itself. Are Nerdrotic fans this brainless?
@@swerzye4472 read some more please
Pushed fan service instead with massive plot holes. Like I rarely see a plot hole as big as that. Electro and venom could not have been affected by Dr strange spell. If something as glaring as that happened in any of the other Mcu films this year, it wouldn't have been shut up about. But it can be ignored cause the 4 lead superheroes are white guys and the sidekicks are a girl and a non white boy. Plus fanservice
@@jakeoliver9167 Electro, no. Venom on the other hand, yes, he can be affected by the spell. The spell sent those who knew that Peter Parker was Spider-Man into the MCU. Venom knew this because the Klyntar(Venom’s species,) have a hive mind across universes, and at the end of Let There Be Carnage, Venom accessed that hive mind, and was immediately sent into the MCU.
@@swerzye4472 Yes they are that brainless. Most of them aren't even Spider-Man fans or even follow the comics. They are the ultimate hypocrites too because they drone on and on about the MCU "pushing a woke agenda" yet don't realize that they themselves are also pushing an agenda. Whenever any movie or TV show has a female in a prominent role or features a diverse cast these fools seem to have a problem with it.
I've said this many times, but Andrew Garfield is clearly the best actor of the three.
andrew saving zendaya was the BEST scene of the whole movie
My favorite scene was Andrew getting redemption from failing gwen, I told my cousin he was gonna save her instead of tom
My nephews loved No Way Home. They even wore their Spider-Man costumes to the theater. Then got home and now they're playing Spider-Man while watching the other Spider-Mans lol. Can't get enough.
I'm right there with ya about America Chavez. The trailer for Strange looks awesome, but I couldn't help noticing that stupid jean jacket with a star standing in what looked like every important scene in the movie. I'm already cringing at the thought of her being so powerful that freaking Dr Strange and Scarlet Witch NEED her to be there
That seems sexist
I think the Merdock cameo was the most exciting part for me. It dose mean that they bring in king pin in the future so I'm curious on how that will go
They did bring Kingpin back in Hawkeye finale
i'll admit, i didn't like what they did with strange but i think some of the best scenes is when all the villians are talking with eachother. like dock ock knowing about osbourne and lizard remembering electro. their interactions were awesome to me. And i almost cried when they took hot aunt may... Almost.
Ahh yes talking the best part about Spider-Man movie
I really really need to see THIS movie ASAP.
Never seen this hype since Spider-Man 2
Did you miss the Endgame and Infinity War hype?
*GO SEE IT!*
I can't wait for Thor: Love and Thunder and Dr. Strange Multiverse to be Not Woke... Marvel seems to be learning from their mistakes.
I'm extra happy I saw this in Australia on opening so I saw it totally open, didn't watch any trailers, and the crowd reaction enhancing my own,such a good movie! Going back again, I haven't seen a movie twice in the cinema for a long loong time, think iron man 1.
@@jasonmilton Sony made this film not Marvel. Marvel only put up 25 percent of the budget. If this was a full MSheU film then it would of been woke garbage. Don't give MSheU your money.
I want a sequel to this movie where the three spider men team up again. I loved their chemistry
It felt so damn good watching this in the theater. Felt like I was a kid again and that maybe there is hope for future movies
If Wanda the Scarlett Witch is more powerful than the Sorcerer Supreme, but Doctor Strange no longer holds that title, does that mean that she is actually more powerful than Wong but not Doctor Strange 🤔.
It was a dumb line any way you cut it, as the "Sorcerer Supreme" does not denote a specific level of "power". A sorc's abilities are not measured by severity. Its like saying a sledgehammer is "stronger" than a toolbox. You could find a measurement where that's the case..... but it doesn't actually mean anything relevant to the reasons you would use the toolbox.
It's the current year. Wong is a person of colour, so he is more powerful than a straight white woman.
I'm not sure if she would be able to beat the OP Dr. Strange, with all of the added powers from all of the dark creatures he farmed to gain the immense powers he got during What If?
A woman more powerful than an asian man? you just created a paradox
Technically, it was having the power of creation that made her more powerful - if you interpret it as quantitive power not qualitative power ie: having more scope of powers but not having the overall strength and depth. Being supreme would be a misnomer if simply having the power to create made you more supreme.
I just saw it last night and I loved it. It's what superheros are supposed to be about, being heroes. It was a little slow in the beginning, but I think that can be forgiven. As far as some of the nitpicks you mentioned, their no worse than what was being done in the bronze age of comic books as well as the eighties. Andrew Garfield had the more emotional scene, but Toby held it together as someone in the comments mentioned.
Great review, Gary, you da man.
Appreciate the review, and that you are able to critique it honestly without devolving into vitriol that anyone would dare like it. I’ve seen it twice and will go at least once more for my little guy, who decided he wants to see it now. But he hasn’t seen any Spider-Man movies so we started the Raimi trilogy last night to get him ready.
So glad that he enjoyed the Snyder Cut :D
Also, Spiderman NWH actually made me want to watch another Amazing Spiderman movie with Garfield post NWH
Willem blew my mind with Alfred gave me chills and made me remember the good times as a teenager when they came out
Willem is 66 and he insisted on doing all of his own stunts and fight scenes as a condition of agreeing to be in the movie. What a legend.
@@och70 legend dude is the best and I love the scene, I'm kinda a scientist myself lol
i'm not sure about it but i think the "making wong the Sorcerer Supreme because Strange got bliped" might have been an attempt at downplaying that Wandavision line, as it wouldn't be referring to Strange anymore. Great review btw
So Agatha was referring to Wong instead? Ok I like that better.
wanda defo still more powerful
@@mamasam5180 The Darkhold was written by Chthon. Agatha was quoting the book. Wanda is Chthon's avatar.
@@charliehemming Yeah, but it's Chthon's power, not hers.
All three Peter Parkers teaming up is something I think we all needed
love the reviews as always great
Unfortunately this will be the last good Marvel film I believe. Better embrace it now cause you know their going to double down on wokeness.
I think mom will be good
I’m still holding out for MoM and GotG…
Women and nonwhites exist, deal with it.
I'd bet the next Spiderman actor after Tom will be a black actor. They even refenced it in the movie, I think Jamie Fox said it.
@@tavirosu25 He's referring to Miles Morales. Get over it he's a good Spider-Man anyway.
This movie along with Ghostbusters: Afterlife are why I’m a little bit hopeful about the future of Doctor Who for the first time in three years. If Sony have learned their lesson about appealing to fans rather than fanatics, there’s a chance they may do Who justice… Just a chance.
Sony aren’t as woke as the BBC, I think it’s still very likely that the BBC will keep pushing their ideologies rather than focusing on decent characters or stories.
@@TheZackkary1 they are looking for another woman to play the Dr role, talk about failing down.
@@TheZackkary1 True, but if Sony owns Doctor Who now then the BBC will only be able to make observations / pass notes, not have final creative control over content.
I trust Sony with Doctor Who more than I do the BBC now. Hell, I'd probably trust Disney with the show more than the BBC now haha. In all seriousness, here's hoping they can pull off a hatrick of saved franchises with Ghostbusters, Spider-Man and soon Doctor Who.
@@smoothjamcalifornia1210 they are talking about another female doctor, probably black
Duuude love your video editing throughout the whole review!!
Just got home from watching it. Reminded me of how good seeing films on the big screen can really be. The cheers, the laughter, the tears. Man, it's been a long time since I got that experience.
Spider-Man 2 is still the best Spider-Man movie as far as I'm concerned but they did good with No Way Home. Mostly bringing Tobey Maguire, Alfred Molina, and William Defoe back is responsible for making this movie great.
I can't wait for Thor: Love and Thunder and Dr. Strange Multiverse to be Not Woke... Marvel seems to be learning from their mistakes.
@@jasonmilton The reason no way home was not woke garbage was because it was Sony not Marvel Studios. Look at what Marvel made this year. My hopes are not high for dr strange
@@elperronimo No Way Home is as much Marvel Studios as it is Sony. I'm very excited for Dr. Strange, Sam Raimi rarely misses.
Nah
That's not true at all
The headliners of this film was Andrew’s SM and Willem Dafoe‘s Green Goblin. But overall they hit the bullseye on this and they absolutely destroyed “the message”. The only thing I hated was the Venom catfish(yes it was a catfish and do not tell me that a piece of Venom got through when it was magic that pulled him back).
Well, they might do it right this time. Where Venom is actually going to be brutal. Although they fucked it up with an entire movie.
You do realize this movie HAD SJW messages, right?
Yes but they were so small to the point you wouldn’t know. In other words this is an actual film with an actual story with actual characters.
We are not here to wipe out the SHWs or the Woke Cult(because they are doing that themselves already and we are just showing them that way they will see their mistakes) and SMNWH is proof of that. It is not perfect but I would take this then Shang-Chi or The Eternals.
The reason why people watched Venom is because of the CGI for Venom himself(which compared to Tobey’s SM3) was a hella lot better in Venom. But the characters and story was cheap(let’s face it without Spider-Man, Venom would be a forgotten and not looked at as much).
While I praise Sony for a job well done with this film I do not praised them for movies like venom or venom two let there be carnage or Morbius because those heroes have no purpose or villains(Venom had Carnage but Morbius has no one as a villain because he is what you call a “helper hero” one that helps out other heroes with their problems). Morbius will not do well because of those facts.
@@ShadowSonic2 How exactly? It's a movie about using power to help others even those who don't deserve it _and_ to live with the consequences of those choices. SJW ideology rejects the concept of personal responsibility.
Cracking review, Gary… unfortunately I haven’t seen it yet but I don’t think you have any real spoilers - it was more like an intense great trailer 🙂👍🏻 Thanks for posting, keep on doing the good thing, and happy holidays to you and yours! (Simon)
Hey I JUST heard about 1/4 Black Garrett from Louder With Crowder is coming on your show... Congrats! He's great! He's also the reason why I've subscribed to your channel. Much love from Western Massachusetts!
Let's all remember this was made by Sony with little to no input from Disney so this doesn't mean the future Marvel projects will change anytime soon!
No, Marvel had complete creative control.
Get your facts straight.
Marvel simply collects 25% of the films profits.
lol 25% is not "complete creative control" ... Marvel Studios was for-hire on this one just like the previous two. Sony has the final and full control. Back when Sony and Disney made this Spider-Man deal, perhaps they were on equal footing of both sides needing the deal... but with NWH, I think Sony has more power than ever in this relationship. Excelsior, Sony !!!
@@Dragonage2ftw I find that hard to believe. Can Marvel make movies without being woke anymore? If Marvel had creative control then how did a script like this even get greenlit and not altered to embarrass Spider-Man, Peter Parker and every other beloved character? I mean hey if you have some inner knowledge I guess you're right but I can't imagine anyone at the current woke Marvel or Disney had control over anything but the Doctor Strange details otherwise the whole movie would have blamed Peter Parker for every bad thing that ever happened and had the collective Spider-Men saved by MJ or a surprise appearance by Captain Marvel...
Little to no input? The movie is produced by Marvel so it’s the complete opposite
This movie was epic in every sense. I felt like I was watching Sam Raimi’s Spiderman 3, and not an avengers spin off movie. Sure the plot had some holes but I don’t even care because this was film made by fans for fans.
I can't wait for Thor: Love and Thunder and Dr. Strange Multiverse to be Not Woke... Marvel seems to be learning from their mistakes.
What fans made this movie
@@jasonmilton no
@@jasonmilton You will be dissapointed.
This movie looks even better than it probably is because there has been so many years since we have got marvel movie for fans. Phase four definitely not. Infinity war wasn't made for fans in truest sense but rather to wrap everything before together. Thor Ragnarök? But even there was some m-she-u in it. Maybe Guardians of the galaxy vol2? In spring 2017, over four years ago. Has been too long.
The absolute best part of the movie was when Holland and Garfield find out McGuires webs come out of him…I was hyperventilating! 😂
I really enjoyed this review. Even at the end, I always here, the “if you liked the video” part, but I have never heard the “if you didn’t like the video” part. Crazy respect for that.
I’m really excited for Dr Stranges movie but I really hope he doesn’t get out-shined in his own movie. I’ve been waiting a very long time to watch his full power. He always gets sidelined and yes, him not being sorcerer supreme really sucks. I’d love for him to be my mentor!
Agreed. They better not **** this up. I’m really rootin’ for Strange to carry these movies from this point on.
They have been outshining the white men in their own stories lately: Loki (though he was still very good in the show), Hawkeye, Thor 4. Dr. Strange 2 may very be the next on the hit list.
@@davidm4566 Thor 4 isn't even out, how can you say that? Taiki hasn't let us down once.
@@ShadowSonic2 Well, the did have Thor who went through 4 films if tribulations give up his kingship of New Asgard to Valkyrie whom is now its king despite not being royal and female. That and the fact that the comics they're adapting it from was woke trash as well, with Jane Foster being more worthy than he and wielding Mjolnir. Not looking good at all.
I'm excited because Wanda is one of the best characters in the MCU right now. They don't have to tear down Dr. Strange to sell her since she's already an established character
for the first time ever since spiderman 2 im actually excited for the next spider-man movie
Tobey is a great 60/70 and early 80s version of Peter Parker
Andrew plays more of what the millennials grew up with in the comics late 80s and up
It's not really a fight on who's better as Peter. They play for different generations completely.
I cried tears of pure joy seeing all three Spiderman on screen together, but especially when Andrew's Spidey caught MJ - people actually gasped out loud and fist pumped the air and I'd forgotten what it felt like to emote out loud in a crowd at a super hero film. Hands down the best moment in the film. Wilem Dafoe was excellent, as always. My only complaint would be that Marvel have a habit of cracking a joke after a serious moment and they did it a lot on this film. Other than that, I loved seeing Tobey, Andrew and Tom together.
For how they cured everyone, it was explained with one line from Holland, something like "Our tech is better here." I believe was the point that the universe Holland and the current MCU is in, is far more advanced than the Toby or Andrew universe. They also remark on the magic, I think Andrew even says something like "you have magic here too?" So that might imply magic exists in Andrew's universe as well, which means we could see him come back as the new MCU's Spiderman, considering Holland wants out and there is a ton of gash as the main heroes. I think that would be best case scenario, or they break the multiverse even further with Into-Spider-Verse part 2. I'm convinced it will be brought into the MCU. They could maybe bring Miles in that way. Anyways, great video, glad I discovered this channel this week. Show us 1/4 Black!
Didn't Andrew's Spiderman also say that he cured Lizard once before with basically the same tech? They still had the fix Electro disk from before, and they didn't actually need to cure Sandman, he wasn't going to die and would have just gone to see his kid if put back. Sandman was oddly the most and least motivated villain in the movie. He has no issue with Spiderman, isn't about to die, and just wants to see his kid. Keeping his powers actually makes that easier for him.
Tom never said he wanted out, he literally just signed up for three more spidey movies.
Andrew saying “you have magic here too” doesn’t necessarily mean that magic exists in his universe. Andrew is just surprised as to how advanced the technology is in the mcu and finding out magic exists is also a shock
This was an issue I had with the movie. They really constrained the unvierses that Tobey and Andrew were in by limiting them to what we've seen.
Holland just signed on for like 4 more movies. He's not out lol
_Me seeing No Way Home being more successful than the rest of phase 4 combined_
"Atta Boy!"
Hey, I just watched your video. I wanted to say that I liked what they did with aunt May and "responsibility message". Belive me I'm not a fan of woke culture, but please don't look for woke elements everywhere possible. Technically speaking: relationship between Peter and May was build across 3 spider-man movies. It was shown that she's very important to Peter. Moment of her death had way more emotional impact than any previous uncle Ben death I've seen. Mostly because I knew uncle Ben for let's say~10 movie minutes and I had to believe that he was important to main hero only beacause it was said so, also that hero was sad so "there you go audience. Tragic backstory - checked. Let's swing now." When May died I was genuinenly shocked, sad, even cried a bit with Holland. Also hate towards Goblin grew in me, and I could buy Spidey's desire to kill him.
If studio decided to throw in a new "uncle Ben" male-mentor persona, just so it would be man who can die in front of Peter and say to him lesson about power and rosponsibility, it would be as stupid operation, as all of that what you describe MShiU does. Tony Stark could deliver that line, but he was pretty speachless at the time of his death. Also idk if Tony would belive in such words to say it to Peter. Also that would take away the light from Tony and give it to Spidey, so I'm not surprised that didn't happen.
For me May's death didn't feel as woke message, and I wanted to express that.
Keep up the good work :)
This reminds me a lot of Days of Future Past. Granted that one had to do with time travel and not the multiverse, but I remember the overall reaction from everyone including myself of having their 🤯. That being said, it also makes me worry because we know what happened afterwards. 😬😬
Though, Logan was God tier.
A movie that really made me feel good.Are we in an alternate universe or wtf?!
Also, turning Daily Bugle into InfoWars and J.J.J into Alex Jones pretty much, was pretty damn funny
TBH, Bugle -> InfoWars and JJJ -> Alex is pretty much taken from Insomniac's Spiderman, they just made it that much more explicit in MCU
Not mentioning that bringing JK Simmons pretty much carried the movie. That man is a gem.
@@Ariescz It makes more sense today. I think nowadays, a newspaper printing false stories like that could very easily be sued. For instance, a father whose child was killed by the Green Goblin and the paper said Spider-Man did it, but another bystander happened to catch some of the attacks, including that one, on video. That father could use the video to take the paper to court for lying about his son's murder.
It was better to make the Bugle into InfoWars where they abuse freedom of speech and are rarely prosecuted. A newspaper has to be very careful these days, otherwise they lose credibility. A conspiracy theory radio is always followed by a cult.
I had a great time. Took my mother to see it and she wasn't expecting much. She was blown away with the movie.
Im just hopeful that we'll be able to get a Last Hunt adaptation sense it's easily one of Spider-Mans greatest stories. "I am the Spider. No - - not the Spider. I AM KRAVEN!" - Kraven the Hunter
Who can I kill to make this happen??
It was surprising how good this movie was, on so many levels. Other than not giving two villains and Wong much to work with, limitations that made perfect sense, every performance was great. It was a little contrived how they kept Dr. Strange out of the main story arc but it couldn't have been done much better, and the story made great limited use of him as a character. The chemistry between spidermen characters and balance in advancing who they had became without exposition tangents was brilliant.
I am very much against Aunt May taking the “Great power, great responsibility” quote.
Why didn’t they make her say “When you help someone, you help everyone” quote?
It was her famous quote in the PlayStation game, she has it scripted on her tombstone and made her stand out as an individual.
It makes sense what you said. It was probably something her brother Ben used to say, though. Ben and his wife May haven't been in the MCU (Marissa is too young to be Ben's wife so she must be his kid sister named after his wife or something)- maybe they moved to Ohio or something and couldn't take care of Peter or maybe they died in the MCU so she was quoting Ben.
@@davidm4566 Marisa is in her late 50s, that perfectly old enough to be Ben's wife. They were Peter's Aunt and Uncle, not his grandparents.
@@davidm4566 Ben was Peter's father's brother, May and Ben would have been reasonably close in age to Peter's parents like 0-15 years different at the extreme ends.
True. Power and responsibility is male thinking. That is something a woman would never say. They are all about feelings and helping others. That is their strength.
@@aahzmandiaz2767...what?
Loved the film and hoping they bring Andrew back for TASM 3
Why ? I mean..it’s weird
@@LouisianaBurns obviously because the person writing the comment liked his movies.
@@LapsedComicFan didn’t like his movies but no way home redeemed him for me
@@odinwilliams3319 So you didn’t like TASM films but since he was good in a different movie it warrants making another movie from the franchise you didn’t like? I didn’t like TASM movies and I liked him in this but never want to see another Amazing Spider-Man movie because they’ve done 2 shitty ones and I have 0 faith that another one would be any different. Andrew wasn’t the problem in his movies. Everything else was.
I saw no way home twice on back to back days (different friend groups lol) and was honestly surprised I liked it more the second time. I tried to be more critical the first time around any really look for plot holes (which the first third had in spades), but man oh man did the rest deliver. This was easily the most fun I've had in a theatre since Ford v. Ferrari (which I will always try to shill), and most fun I've had in a theatre for a superhero movie since Endgame
Why are we acting like this is all Sony? Marvel was given creative lead on Spider-Man since the beginning. So while Sony may own the rights and distribute the film, it's Marvel who does the majority of work.
The part when Andrew says he stopped pulling his punches and tears up legit made me tear up. So good but yeah when "Aunt May" said uncle Ben's line it made me roll my eyes.
It would have made more sense for Toby to say it to Tom through a mentoring moment, because it was what moved Toby in his first movie.
I cringed when she said the line, and then it all made sense. They erased the white man and gave his glory to the wahman
@@aussiewanderer6304 that would have been cool.
The only credit I can give is that Uncle Ben was never in the MCU and she was probably quoting her Ben, but she should have freaking said so.
Also, I'm still going with the idea that Ben was her brother and not her husband because of her young age. It's true that aunts come in all different ages, as said in Civil War, but not true that the same 2 people could be radically different ages in respect to each other in different universes.
@@davidm4566 you know she's almost 60. She don't look it, but yea
Sony should keep Spidey from Woke Disney...by the way did you see how miserable Matrix Ressurections is ?
Good review. Thanks!
Eternals + Blackwidow + Shang-Chi = 1.2B
Spider-man No Way Home = 1.9B
Not even clooose.
Kinda funny how even Captain Marvel beat the triplets.
All his videos are great, keep fighting!
Did ya notice Tobey was dressed as the classic Peter with the brown jacket and blue t shirt like from the comic/cartoon and toy
Great review, you nailed it, thank you. I totally agree.
When all 3 landed on the liberty crown in their own unique pose was an epic shot.
I have hopes for Multiverse of Madness and GOTG 3 only due to the fact that those films directors have strong creative voices and also input on the writing not giving into whole woke culture.
It never was giving in to the whole culture. Y'all just don't like it when they get more of a spotlight
What about Thor 4
They say MoM will be MCU's first horror movie. hyped.
They will likely both be woke sadly
Holland and MJ did amazing. Aunt may in a couple of the comic story lines ended up being a huge mentor to Peter. I loved the whole thing.
MJ still feels robotic AF. I really don't get it how she can act like this, considering they dated/dating IRL.
@@tavirosu25 That's literally her character. it seems like you only saw Zendaya in this movie. Watch her in the Greatest Showman. If you watch Homecoming you'll understand.
@@gissneric Dunno man, she looks to me like an updated Kristen Stewart, same bland acting or roles. It might be me, but I'd love to see an MJ that's funny, cheerfull and actually plays as a real GF.
Great content. Merry Christmas man.
No matter how old I get, this movie will forever hold a special place in my heart. It combined my favorite aspects of new Marvel with old Marvel and I love it for that.
Bully Maguire: *"look at these woke activists junior... gonna cry?"*
Doctor Strange is one of my favorite characters and I cannot say MCU has done it justice. The animated movie is better than the live-action.
It's sad that his best performances were in someone else's movie.
As soon as his second movie was announced with Wanda in it, I knew what was coming. I didn't like it.
This movie gave me confirmation.
If you are not happy he is not sorcerer supreme anymore, imagine how unhappy I am.
Great video, as always. You hit the nail on every issue I had with this movie. And I agree with you in most of the good parts of the movie.
one of my fav
Doctor Strange and Doctor Doom: Triumph and Torment
Yeah he’s my favorite too and honestly the only reason I saw this movie. Although I did like it. But I wore my dr strange shirt to the theater 🤓
Wanda definitely deserves to be alongside strange in the second movie to further her character as the scarlet witch, she exceeds doctor strange’s powers imho, even in the comics.
Doctor strange does deserve to be strange supreme and it was stupid to change that for a, “technicality,” joke
@@dougmoore4653 that is an amazing comic! I hope one day when doctor doom is in the mcu they can do it
Nice Shot!! great review!
You pretty much nailed it. I didn't feel the first t was to slow but when, how and her giving him the speech. I really thought the wheels were falling off the wagon. The movie amped up from there thu, I would rate it great movie. I would say I like Ghostbusters: Afterlife better. But is is the only superhero movie I have paid to see at the theaters.
This was a great review, Gary! Thanks! And I agree with your Top 5.
I was going to pass on this at the movie theaters. But, because of your review, I'm going to see it and invited somebody else to see it as well. Great review Gary! And, Perry Chan's work, OUTSTANDING!
So basically, what makes this a "great superhero film" is nostalgia ? Creativity is going down & down..
I love the movie and dont have any problem with aunt may, I love since it combine the mother approach from old May's adding the ongoing guidance of the moral responsability
I'm old school, and I always envision Aunt May as a gray haired little lady. Hot May is too much to wrap my head around lol
Looking forward to seeing this movie! Tobey McGuire is an actor I really enjoyed growing up in the 1990s.
Agree - Today we have Celebrities who pretend, in the past we had Artists who knew how to Act. Marvel habe done excellent job of picking good actors for all their Avengers/Infinity Saga Movies but is now too focused on Celebrities who pretend/identify as 'gender' and unknown people who may/may not be able to act solely based on fact they tick Woke Checklists/Agenda
Loved this film. I'm prob done with Marvel films after this, I have no interest in the "new" characters and I'd rather go out on a high note.
5:50 that fast forwarded scene of Daredevil punching the hell outta Kingpin was hilarious
Lol I had no idea Jamie Foxx used to hang out with Maduro