WOW! Should THIS Have Been The Best HiFi Amplifier of the Year 2023?
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- čas přidán 16. 05. 2024
- My Best HiFi Amplifier of the year was the High-End Audiophile Class D amplifier, The AGD Audion monoblocks. However, how does the Flagship AGD Gran Vivace Amplifiers Compare?
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Mcintosh MC462: www.mcintoshlabs.com/products...
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0:00 Best HiFi Amplifier 2023!
2:00 Gran Vivace:The Best Amplifier From AGD
3:19 AGD Tube Amplifier?
4:38 Best Class D Amplifier
6:10 AGD Audion VS Gran Vivace
10:04 Best Pre-Amplifier For AGD Amplifiers
11:12 AGD Gran Vivace VS NAT Trasmitter Monoblock
12:05 AGD Gran Vivace VS Luxman M900U
13:09 AGD Gran Vivace VS Hegel H600
15:06 AGD Gran Vivace VS Mcintosh MC462
17:01 Why I bought one!
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0:00 Best HiFi Amplifier 2023!
2:00 Gran Vivace:The Best Amplifier From AGD
3:19 AGD Tube Amplifier?
4:38 Best Class D Amplifier
6:10 AGD Audion VS Gran Vivace
10:04 Best Pre-Amplifier For AGD Amplifiers
11:12 AGD Gran Vivace VS NAT Trasmitter Monoblock
12:05 AGD Gran Vivace VS Luxman M900U
13:09 AGD Gran Vivace VS Hegel H600
15:06 AGD Gran Vivace VS Mcintosh MC462
17:01 Why I bought one!
AGD Production Products:
Gran Vivace: agdproduction.com/product/vivace-molto/
Audion: agdproduction.com/product/audion/
Alto pre-amp: agdproduction.com/product/agd-alto-reference-preamplifier/
Have questions for AGD? agdproduction.com/contact/
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ANK Mentor Pre-amp: ankaudiokits.com/product/pre-amp-l5-mentor/
Luxman M900U: www.luxman.com/product/detail.php?id=19
Hegel H600: www.hegel.com/en/products/integrated/h600
Mcintosh MC462: www.mcintoshlabs.com/products/amplifiers/MC462
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I own the audions and a lot of equipment has come and gone in the 3 years I’ve owned them , but these are keepers as they sound great with all kinds of speakers.
Not buying an MC462 now. Great review. Thanks for the insight.
excellent review Jay... wow ! you have improved quite a lot since I've been following you... I was thinking that it might be interesting to have a comparison with other class D amplifiers, like the Atma-Sphere and some other high-end contenders like the Starkrimson...
Nice review Jay. I look forward to other comparisons!
Thanks for watching. Cheers
I love this review Jay. Because of budget, I just bought another MC2100 to double the power to my Maggies. The AGDs are very attractive when I decide to spend more.
What a great review, so the difference between AGD Audion and AGD Gran Vivace is small?
Or does the gap only happen when people have a large room or a speaker with 2 or 1 ohms?
Sill curious if people should purchase Gran Vivace for which case? Or is the half power AGD Audion enough for most audiophiles?
I can't find the perfect units, at the right price, and even just finding out is cumbersome. Thx, for helping!! Love the gray hair!!!
I have open baffle speakers (Spatial Audio Lab X5s) at 96db efficiency with the woofer driven by a hypex class d amp. Do you think these mono blocks would work well with these speakers?
Hey Jay! So, how does this compare to the Decware ZMA? I'm interested in buying the decware. So, I'm curious to hear your opinion. Thanks!
Jay, regarding your videos.
Speaking strictly for myself, my only request is please don't stop making them! 😄
Appreciate it!
Hi Jay, you should check out the other AGD (Audio Group Denmark) amps. Class D never sounded so good. However, definitely no where close to under $1K!
Hi Jay ! wil the AGD audion drive my YG acoustic Carmel 2 speakers ? Have them on a NAD M33 now with 380W /ch in 4 ohm . Or do I need the Vivace ?
Thank you for the review, Jay. It would be great to know how they compare to the Gato mono blocks.😊
Gato Monos are less dynamic over-all. Less bass. More sparkle and less refinement than the AGDs in the highs. Soundstage is quite impressive on both for a solid state but I find the separation and layering to be much more engaging and musical for my preference.
@@JayiyagiThanks for the answer.
@@Jayiyagi Amazing considering the cost of the Gatos ! the AGD's seem to be THE Audio Bargain :-) Your reviews are getting better and better every year, Jay!
This is a really good video.
thank you!
Really interesting video! I am a very happy AGD Audion customer. Having tried many amps (tube/OTL/Class A etc) I really believe AGD has opened up a whole new class of amplifier - fabulous sound, small size and energy efficient. My previous amps required regular tube changes and the sound gradually deteriorated over time. In addition, having retired, I was spending more time listening to music and my previous tube amp was drawing over 300W from the wall. In comparison, the Audions draw less than 10W so my energy bill is more acceptable.
I've not heard the Gran Vivace and imagine they would be terrific if your speakers require massive power with low impedance. Forgot to say, some people see the AGD 'tube' as a gimmick but it allowed me to upgrade from Audion Mkii to Mkiii in under 5 minutes!
@bra69er what speakers are using with the AGD’s?
I appreciate your video although I can't afford this price range . I am well pleased with my GaN class D mono blocks from Orchard Audio . I couldn't afford their high power pair , but for music and most movies their 150 watt amps deliver superb sound and bass slam when appropriate . What is missing is the true concussion of explosions that greater power can afford . Open Baffle
Jay. Great job. Can the AGD Audion be synergistically paired with a tube preamp? Synergistic as in greater than their individual contributions eg. that magical pairing.
Yes. Check the pre-amp pairing section of this video :)
OMG Jay, ....it's just comedy gold.
18:54 Lol..... just how many 'index finger push-ups' needed to get in shape? That button push IS wicked strenuous.
Acid Jazz, Funk & Brass 🔈🔉🔊
I’m definitely not into the looks but I do appreciate that it can easily be upgraded
Gran Vivace is stunning. I’m really excited about the future of Class D. And I typically lean toward tubes.
Jay, love the channel. Only thing that would make it better are some Lampizator DAC reviews!
Even the Peechtree GaN400 amp with a Schitt Freya pre tube is an amazing combo.
I don't care I can't afford it. I love this. Don't care if it is tube or not. This is cool to the core. Class D or whatever, does it connect to my soul to stop anything else I want? Sometimes you need a flagship to push along the gear that is close to our reality. I like this.
Jay one question if you don't mind. Did you try balanced vs single ended on the audions which did you use/prefer ?
I used both and preferred balanced but not a huge difference with rca to be honest
Great review the burning question is how does the orchard tree Audio class D compare to AGD? Also if you add a tube based pre amp will this bring some of the holographic sound that’s missing?
Review for that one coming! I’ll compare the AGD amps for sure in that video
Red Dragon M1000 is back in stock.
@@Jayiyagifor pre amps to pair with AGD that will bring more holographic imaging and take to next level , if you can get any of these three I think you will be impressed..
Audio research LS28
Linear Tube Audio microzotl
Backert Lab Rhumba 1.3
Thank you for the suggestions. I’m pretty happy with the ANK mentor pre as mentioned in the video but I’ll have a look at the components you’ve suggested
@@ericelmore887Hi. Do you think the Audions are GREAT, not just adequate,matches for tube preamps? Thanks
Hey Jay, can you tell me what power cords you are using on the Audions?
NRG. I made a video on them
I would be curious if the tube amps that you have would deliver the holographic effect if they were isolated in another room. Point is they are microphonic, and that might be the source of the effect.
Or is the holographic effect down to harmonics? I don't know, so am posing the question. If that's the case, how far behind are the SOTA amps from digitally adding these characteristics at a high level? I know there are DACs and DSP filters that can do some of this, I just don't know of a serious HiFi contender that is emulating all these amp topologies and doing it well and believably
Any plan to review the Maria 350 from Daniel Hertz?
yes sir ;)
Hi @jayiyagi I am a subscriber and love your videos and nuanced approach to hifi reviews. I currently own the AGD Audions and have paired them with a benchmark LA4 preamp and Zu Soul 6 speakers. Its a match made in heaven.
Thanks for sharing!
I LOVE the look of The Audion Mono Blocs waaaaaay more than the Gran Vivace model. I bet I would like the sound!
….but…l will stick with my MacIntosh MC152….I love this thing! ❤
I got the same amplifier for McIntosh. I do love it, but I think we can have it better. My audio life is so confusing.😂
@@stephencosta6814 …lt's a journey…and can be VERY confusing! I am driving mine with a Schiit Freya+ that I upgraded all the caps and resistors in the Tube Circuit. I also found some tight NOS tubes. My streamer is fed thru a Denafrips DAC. I am very happy with the sound….very happy!…. There is always some other "promise" out there…..
@Jayiyagi Another great candidate is the Nilai Monnoblock. It will be very interesting to compare the Nilai Mono 500 to AGD Monoblock, especially since the Nilai is just $1600 for a pair. If the Nilai is just about 80-90% of the AGD in term of SQ, I would think it is a win for the Nilai.
Thanks! Not really a fan of Hypex designs and I've tried quite a few but I'll take a look
Traded in Luxman M900u for AGD Audion MK3 (due any day now UPS)
Had an AGD Tempo loaner from Verdant Audio
Love the tube look of it! Looks like hifi jewelry
Curious how AGD and Atma-Sphere Class D monoblocks would compare against each other. Cannot ignore a Class D design from an OTL tube designer.
I own the AGD Audions MKiii (for full disclosure) and have followed along with a discussion on the Audiogon Forum that started as a review of the Mkiii upgrade and got everyone else who owns a GaN FET amp jumping in, including Ralph and his fanboys. I've had a ton of experience with the OTL topography, owning both Joule Electra Monoblocks and and LTA Integrated amp (and having some original David Berning stuff in for demo) and appreciate what Atma-Sphere probably brings to the table here. That said, the one guy over there who has actually had both the Audions and Atma-Spheres in his system prefers the AGD Audions. He found that the Atma-Sphere may have a ittle more weight, but was also a bit grainy in the upper mids. He described the Ausions as being fast, neutral, delicate, well balanced and having a very black background. FWIW, but someone's actual experience vs the usual conjecture.
You should try the Axxess Forté 1 for class D competition
Oooh yeah
The Bel Canto e1x series is fantastic too. I'm dying to hear their top line
@@erics.4113 Audio Shrink talks about his E1x almost daily.
I wonder how they compare to the Orchard's audio amps, they are GaN based class-D too.
Video in the Orchard coming soon ;)
@@Jayiyagi thanks Jay! Looking forward to it 🙌
Do you think the Meishu Tonmeister silver Signature has more magic?
Holographicness, naturalness and ✨?
Thanks for this video Jay. I've read a lot of ppl saying your video of the audion monoblocks were obviously paid for by AGD, although I did not believe that. This video puts that nonsense to rest. Off to check on the ANK pre. :O)
Thank you for your comment. Any sponsored video on this channel is stated as such. Cheers
100% correct Jay is not a sellout. He gained his audience, popularity, respect and love from us, for being honest, and true and insightful, and amusing, sometimes as well I personally love this guy wish him all the best in the world.👍🙏🏻❤️
@@stephencosta6814 Buff Jay is superior.
Whatever happened to your Orchard Audio StarKrimson review?
Coming soon :)
@@Jayiyagi please compare the Orchard's to the AGDs!! They use very similar technology!!
The review and demo's of these mono's are brilliant. Only small negative point I perceive is a somewhat soft transient attack, but on the other hand that is often associated with increased "musicality". But EDM heads may not be a fan.
but they are power amps right? So 50% of the sound depends and whatever preamp they are matched with surely.
Are you saying the AGD has better vocal than top tier tube amp? Really hard for me to imagine the class D amp can achieve that. Anyone with the experience please help share your thoughts.
Jay, I don't know how else to describe it but Class D amps have always sounded "dry" to me. Not sure if you've had the same feeling in the past or know what I mean, but does this AGD amp finally lack that sort of dry and gritty haze to the sound?
Yes. I know exactly what you mean and the AGDs do not some dry to me at all. Especially with the ANK pre
Will there be an ANK Mentor review?
Absolutely
Very interesting! Your shows are great, highly recommend. My taste is different, in music choice, some styles of music don't benefit as much as others, from hi fidelity. If I had your taste, in music, I'd really go cheap, loud bassy. I can't listen to music thru, tv, or surround sound, its really expensive to own quality.
But how do the two models of AGD compare? I thought this was part of your stated focus?
6:13
Jay, glad you did this...$7k to $19k Usd...you choose if they sound similar. You saving bruhs for real. $7, tho expensive as what, its alot more achievable buy over 19k and you get the same performance
Thanks!🙏
What speakers are those in the background?
Maco speakers
There are many class D amplifiers everywhere that offer good value and sound for a fraction of that "flagship."
I'll see if I can connect a torroid xfmr to one of the red lamp exterior light fixtures off our industrial warehouse to cut cost 😂
I think the tempo DiGan is the same as the audio just in a plain box, but is 2k cheaper. Probably a good option for ppl who dont want to spend as much but get the same sound.
Thats false. Especially if you haven't listened to a AGD in person. Just because it has GaNfets in it doesn't mean it has the same implementation. It's like saying all class A amps are the same, so let's buy the cheaper one. Bruh, you know full well that ain't true. Stop reaching.
@@DJ_BROBOT Tempo DiGaN is the exact same as the AGD Audion, just with a shared power supply.
@@flashhog01no it has different amp board. you can even compare the distortion specs between the two, one is more than a magnitude higher than the other
Did you buy the audion or grand vivace?
Both
Hey Jay, have you heard the Atmasphere Class D by any chance ? i'm taking a guess here but with what people say, it might be the closest competitor to Audion's.
I've heard good things about it and also some rumor that AGD contributed to their class D endeavours so I am not surprised!
@@Jayiyagi i didn't know about that one, thank you !
Ok, what are the open baffle speakers ? Did i miss something?
Maco speakers
@@Jayiyagi Looking forward to the review of the Maco Speakers 😇
@@Jayiyagi
Cool. Do you have a projected review date?
❤️❤️👍👍 my God Jay your reviews are so spot on so refined just like your mono blocks I remember when you used to review earphones you was a young kid always a big fan. I trust your opinions 100% without doubt I want to sell my McIntosh gear to buy the same ones you got not only because they are better in many ways or let’s just say even the same for the sheer weight of the components I cannot log around, these incredibly heavy pieces anymore and I move around quite frequently at least every couple of years that I would make a switch
Hi Jay - I owned the GV and miss them! I wanted to email you but it looks like you do not take personal email. There are two tracks I want you to AB between any GaN and any other amplifier you own. I would love your take on the result. It is totally worth your time.
Sure! What’s the track?
Enya "O Come, O Come, Emmanuel" - Opening deep synthesizer and second, John Rutter: "Pie Jesu" around the 1:02 minute mark. Both are Qobuz. What is missing? Power and emotion. My question is, why? I do not think other amps are embellishing the sense of power and scale. I am wondering what it means that GaN is not accomplishing the same?
@jayiyagi ^
Ill be sure to try. Thank you
@@Jayiyagi I think this is big and my guess is that GaN may be too fast. They say speed kills and maybe it applies here. The second track is more telling as you should be able to sense and feel the vastness of the cathedral along with the power of the choir and organ. There is something here that requires investigation.
Any interest in reviewing a Rogue Audio Pharoah II? It's another class D, but hybrid with tubes, and folks swear by it being one of the best amps they've heard, let alone for the price. I've also been historically anti class d, but I, and we all, owe it to ourselves to hear it with our own ears...or like just trust yours at a minimum lol
I second that
As you say... Nowhere do they claim these are tube amps. BUT, they do a damn good job of leaving that impression; another thing i noticed in the promotional blurb you highlighted is the model number given to the GaN tube: KT88 Mkii, obviously a reference to the famous KT88 tube, as used on many famous true Tube (or valve in my parlance) designs, old and current. Even the shape and size has been imitated. In short, a lot has been done to impress the gullible into thinking this is a tube design. Just be upfront of what it really is: A class D amp (and nothing wrong with that, Nilai, Eigentakt, Ncore, NcoreX are all superb sounding topologies when done right). This just feels wrong on so many levels. It has nothing to do with tubes/valves, let alone true KT88...
Won't power 20.7s 😮
Coda v3 800w@4ohms
We can assure you the Gran Vivace can drive the 20.7 and even larger and less efficient speakers easily.
Doesn’t sound like it’s worth the additional money then?
They just made the Audions too good
Too expensive....the price of a small car...never be able to have that! 😢
With the transfer of wealth from the middle class to the one percenters, looks like there will be plenty of cool toys to fill their world. I love em but will never own them stuff.
Made him cry award 😂
Every time I hear AGD I think of the other chifi brand Audio-GD.
They don't spend the money to market their brand and create a brand persona - Even with the MKII at $7500 (for a Class D amp!), it is still a power only. People need to buy a pre, DAC and streamer on top of it which means it costs $10 to $15k fully loaded. At that price point, there are infinitely more options that have better brand equity and resale value. The value proposition for a Class D is that it uses less power and costs much less to build, resulting in a lower amp price point (some of the newer NAIM, NAD etc). In order to justify the much higher price point of an AGD, the value proposition can't just be limited to sonic output endorsed by CZcamsrs.
Even if the AGDs are better sonically (I've heard them and they are), there is no denying that a pure Class A/AB brand like a McIntosh will have infinitely higher resale or trade-in value.
AGD either needs to work on their branding (not sales), or they need to rework their price points. I was in the market for an AGD MKII but ended up getting a Hegel H390 instead.
So they can't charge those prices because they don't brand themselves well? Wut?
Price with this company is one problem. The bigger problem is the aesthetic obsession making them not fit our rack. Some of us grew up dreading tubes for their frailty and cost. A faux tube is not helpful. They make 12 volt trigger something you have to click on or you don't get it. Suitcases we do not want.
Just like any design, it is not for everyone. They did also start making non-tube enclosure versions as well
Bruh, this is not a issue. You know what the deal is going into buying AGD. You act like they're a blind buy....you're reaching
Check out my boys at Quadraspire - modular rack bro. It's 🔥 no 🧢
I think it’s cool. Out of the box
Too expensive, most could live very fine without.
true but most could live fine without a stereo system in the first place
Please turn off the noise pollution
Only a few years late 🤦♂️
Sorry but in my view this AGD in nothing more than a marketing trick
A class D amp at $18900? What’s wrong with a $200 Fusi?
Does the $200 Fusi have a cool looking tube sticking out of it?
Fozi's aren't GaN afaik. BTW high-end prices are crazy, not connected to costs by any means.
Tube look is like fake stick-on air vents from pep boys. These are class D amps….
Agd looks to me like a cheap Chinese brand, too much polished and cheap looking gimmick! A no go for me.
Dumb.
I have 4x PMC 5.22 Speaker's on the ceiling
Sony Tae86 amplifier
3x rotel Rb990bx bridged power amplifier
Smsl dac
Sony HSP1
You're a PMC Focal sound guy, this is garbage because tube is always warm dead dull lifeless dark murky.
I am not a pmc/focal sound guy. I appreciate what those brand speakers do but a lot of the models are not my taste as I’ve mentioned repeatedly before (especially focal). The AGDs do not sound murky, lifeless, warm and dull to me at all or I would have not bought it.
@@Jayiyagi you've changed you're taste, I remember when you started new few years ago, you was into studio sound.
Ah you must be a really long time watcher haha. Appreciate that. I did appreciate the studio sound at the time because I know it very well from my background but I realized I did not want this “work” sound for my personal enjoyment
@@Jayiyagi yes I am, I remember you're first few videos, you was were pmc fan
I'm a big Sony fan from 80s