2004 Yamaha R1 - Classic Review
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- 2004 Yamaha R1 - Classic Review: Time for another classic bike review, this time the still brilliant R1 from 2004....spoiler alert, this one I really loved!
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I bought one brand new in 2004 and owned it for 10 years. Its by far the most reliable bike i have ever owned and i put 58k on it and It still looks ultra modern today and was way ahead of any other bike in terms of looks and handling. Just an awesome bike and still the best R1 made to date in my opinion. I went across the whole of europe on it on many holidays and was always comfy for me.
Smoking copium
i’m looking at getting one it’s an 02 model with just over 40k on it, what are some of the problems these bikes get after they get higher up in the mileage
@@nin0176 did you go for it? I just got a 04 and wouldn't recommend going under it because of it's 1:1 power
@@LionKing-ys6el does you bike fall out of gear? Thinking of getting a 03 r1 but im seeing thats a big problem with them
I love your series on older bikes. Most of us can’t afford a 20 grand machine and there’s bikes are arguably better anyway.
Agreed!
Got one as well, absolutely love this bike.
Just a small problem, that´s not a 2004, that is a RN09 which was build in 2002-2003. The 2004 modell has the exhaust under the seat. And it doesn´t have the 1 to 1 power ratio like the 2004, it has 153 hp at 174kg dry weight. More than enough still! 😉
One of my first bikes was a 2001 R1, last of the carburettor models. Loved that bike, it just felt a part of me when I rode it. Great review as ever, thanks Andy!
I had a R1 for 9 years such a capable machine , beautiful looking for a Japanese bike and handled superb and the little power wheelies and gently shook its head as you accelerated it was alive, loved it !
Can well remember seeing the very first red and white one at the NEC just before it was released on general sale and could not believe how small the bike was and the ultra low screen...... All other full on sport bikes looked big and heavy by comparison. The bike in your review just does not look its age..... incredible. Have a real soft spot for these retro reviews so keep em coming please.
Love your comparisons between the new and not so new bikes , not many of us have the opportunities you have , so you views are greatly appreciated, just need more “old bike” reviews
Really enjoyed this video. I think that bike for its age looks gorgeous, also I love the simplicity too. You can tell that has been somebodies pride and joy.
Love seeing tests of these older bikes. Please make this a regular item. Great production work on this video.
Thank you - and yes, this is currently a monthly feature….
looks so cool. I always loved how the headlights looked on the older R1's especially the 1 light 1 off. looks so sick! Great review!
This series of videos are brilliantly interesting and fun to watch. MORE MORE MORE! Great stuff.
just lovin these "older" bike reviews, as are you i think, keep em coming
Willco Gary!
Hi Andy, another solid review 😉 really enjoyed looking at these older bikes such a great series 👍👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Unfortunately for us big fellows, sports bikes just got smaller and smaller since this bike was made. A time where you had to treat the throttle and brakes with respect with no electronic assistance. That frame still looks very like my MT10 frame. Like the classic reviews, everyone does the new bikes.
Yeah I agree - I'm trying to move my channel away from new reviews unless it's something that really interests me.....British bikes for example.
@@TheMissendenFlyer It's a great idea, always enjoy the tour vids. Know they don't generate the view numbers like bike reviews. We continue to make what hopefully we will enjoy rewatching ourselves in old age. Cheers and best wishes
@@Banditmanuk Thanks for the encouragement Richard....I'm past the chasing views and subscribers stage now!
Another brilliant video, always love your reviews. Thanks TMF!
Thank you!
Great classic video review on the 2004 Yamaha R1. A very lovely sport bike. It looked like amazing motorbike to ride around on. Yamaha have always been on my top 10 motorbike I like. I believe its nearest rival to Yamaha was Suzuki GSX-R1000. Thanks again Mr Flyer for a great video
Loving these older bike reviews Andy thanks again 👌🥳
Glad you like them!
Enjoying these modern classic reviews Andy, what a lovely bit of kit as well for the right money as well 👍
Agreed!
Hi Andy, I think someone obviously cherished that bike by it's condition and mileage, and in real terms after 18 years it's still worth half it's original price tag. like you I always listen to the hype regarding the latest machines, but the smart thing would be to choose a cherished older bike and save a fortune. Another cracking old bike review. Thank you...
Thank you Stephen!
Another great old school bike review , keep em coming. 👏🏻
Thanks for watching and for stopping by!
Great review I’ve given up on the modern stuff now ride an old zx7r and Ducati 748 both put a smile on my face
Nice vid & bike. Love these classic bike ride reviews. We're all guilty of being sucked in by the marketing hype & wanting the lastest & greatest I guess but there are so many great bikes out there we forget about far too quickly. If I was going retro it would be an RGV250 & a GSXR750 for me I think.
Great review, thanks! I love these but struggle with sports bikes these days. I should sell my old fireblade due to lack of use but love it for the occasional, short blast out.
There’s no harm in that - don’t sell!
@@TheMissendenFlyer every time I ride it as I'm thinking of selling, I change my mind. I'm thinking of trying to find some taller clip-on mounts from another bike to ease the neck and shoulder pain, and some adjustable pegs to take the stress off my knee. If I could make it comfy for an hour or more it would be a game changer!
Morning Andy, another cracking review 👍, just one point you might like to know though, way back in 1987, the Deltabox chassis appeared on the Yamaha FZR1000 Genesis/EXUP, before passing onto the R1s predecessor, the YZF1000 Thunderace.
Thanks for the info...a few have mentioned that - my bad! (what do I know!!!)
That was so cool to a see a review of the 02/03 R1. I had an 03 and agree it still looks gorgeous even today. Another person commented on that not being an 04 and mentioned the radial mount brakes and under swingarm brace. One of the most easily identifiable features of the 04 refresh was the undertail exhaust. Great vid regardless.
Thanks for watching!
As well as ram air ducts under light
Tail cowl , head lights and frame! Also
Lovely bike, the R1 is legendary great video, camera quality is awesome keep up the great work.
Thank you very much and will do!
My first litre bike was a 2000 R1 in the red, white and black works Yamaha colours, I've had Fireblades, GSX-R 1000s and a 2007 R1 since but that first one still is the one I look back on most fondly.
Great content as usual, makes me want to try a fast old machine like this R1. Thanks for these vintage videos which give a larger view of what's out there. Besides, I managed t check the Small Post, completely agree 👍✌
Glad you like them!
1:44 i like to imagine that the clear taillight lens is the same one i got on my 2013 Yamaha Stryker
A friend of mine bought the R1 SP in 2006 with full Ohlins and other niceties. It was epic. And lucky for me he had to sell his FZ1 - which I bought 😂. Amazing engine, beautiful gearbox and all day comfortable (mostly, my knees got a bit sore after a while). That old 5 valve 4 cylinder was something to behold when you wound it out….3rd gear wheelies at 80mph when you overtook certainly got your attention!!!
Love the classic reviews!! More, please!
More to come!
Great video Andy. Lovely bike, raw. Back in the those days I had the zx10r, was even more of an animal, no steering damper, had slipper clutch though. You should line up a test on one of the older zx10r’s beautiful raw motors. See you in the next one mate, take care.
Cheers John!
Really like the focus on 2nd hand bikes. I'd wager the majority of your audience are in the market for a used rather than brand new bike so good stuff.
I've got a 2002 GSXR600... just put in a new clutch and did a valve adjustment, full suspension service, chain/sprockets, fluids and cleaning...
LOVE IT just the same as I did 15 years ago!
Granted I also love my '16 WR450 and '21 890 Adv R... but nothing will make me sell (or trade-in) my 20 year old sport bike!
These "Classic" reviews are my favourite. Your opinion is realistic, pointing out things that others don't. Especially for older bikes.
I absolutely love the rear end on this. How did they mess up that today? I think the shape of the back and the tail light is absolutely stunning.
Thanks for watching - glad you like these reviews!
What a beautiful machine,great that you can share it with us!
Thanks for watching Dan!
You should be a bike salesman really Mr Flyer. All your test rides make me want to buy the bike you’re riding. Top channel mate 😀😀
Trouble is I fancy them all as well!!
The ‘Delta Box’ started on the FZ1000 Genesis in 86 and then the EXUP before the R1 👍
Thanks Mr Flyer, what an awesome bike! As someone who doesn't religiously follow every new bike release, I wouldn't have known this wasn't brand new. I really am enjoying your older bike reviews as it has become more expensive to acquire new machines and some of the old ones are such a bargain. I do have one "criticism" now that you have become so professional and polished we get less outtakes lol.🏍 :>)
I must try harder!!
Love the idea of one of these, bang for buck I don't think there's better. (Not to sound like a know it all but think "Delta box" frame harks back to first R1 and probably even FZR1000exup years before - you possibly mean it had a new variant of it?). Great review - enjoy your classic reviews the most.
This model has been available up to 2003 I think. From 2004 up to 2008, the underseat exhaust has been released. On 2007-2008 models, the intake valves have been reduced to 2 per cylinder, so these models had 16 valves instead of 20.
powerwise there is a difference too, this one, the 2003 model, had 152 hp, the 2004 model 172hp
I had my 04 since 04 and still have it and I was confused because it doesn't look like mine. It was closer to my 99 I had. So I agree with Charilaos this is the 2003
@@michelboots7133 Yes but with the '04 the powerband just shifted up, it spins higher and is peakier. The '02-03 have better midrange and are quicker off the line which is better for the street. Same with the R6, when the new gen came out in '06 it made more power but lost mid range and they kept making the previous gen until '08 and called it an R6S for "street".
It's a 2003 5PW model like mine but obviously this was a late registration hence the 2004 number plate and CZcams title
Another great 'classic bike' video. Much like yourself, love the looks of sports bikes, but haven't riden many. Was very surprised at the weight of the R1. Tks.
Cheers Gary!
One thing I like about these older "pre-tech" bikes is that they force you to be a better rider! Some might call it unforgiving, but actually it's a learning opportunity :-)
Not the types of lessons I’d like to be learning on the road tbh. No doubt a brilliant bit of engineering though.
I just bought a clean 98 R1. I've wanted one since a kid and I'm having an absolute blast on it despite it not being anywhere near as violent as my GSXR1000.
Unless things were different in the UK, that's not a 2004. 2004 saw the introduction of the ram-air intakes, radial mounted front calipers and the dual under-tail exhausts (at least in North America).
In the UK the registration is based on the year the bike is registered. This will be an 03 model that was sold after March 2004 (the 04 on the plate shows it was registered between March and September 04)
Stop it!
I sold mine last week and really miss it already!
Oh dear!!! Sellers remorse!!
Great bike, around that era I was riding the 954 Fireblade which I loved. Interestingly I had an Akrapovic can and Ohlins damper just like this R1. If you get the chance, give the 954 a blast.👍👍
Brilliant vid Andy! These bikes are still way more capable than most people that ride them. Theres just something about this era of bikes that gets the old heart racing! ❤
I agree!
Ditto, I am presently re-aquainted with a Honda Blackbird it is 20 years old, looks fabulous and still offers way more performance than can be used in reality.. although the odd burn in the right circumstances is still exhilarating..... A great era if you are of a certain age 😉
@@GPR111 sounds awesome 👍..... I've just swapped my 790 Duke for a GSXR1000 K5. Picking it up tomorrow.... cannot wait!!
Great classic bike Andy keep up the great vids 👍
Thanks, will do!
Enjoyed this “classic”review. 👍
This is not a 04 r1 mate. 03 fuel injected r1 is 150 bhp not 165. With a cat delete, full exhaust and a power commander the 04-06 r1 can easily make 170+ hp proper tuning with the 20 valve set up. Keeps up with modern r1s still because they're lighter. A legend of a bike 20 years ahead of their time.
Brilliant review as always, still waiting for the honda blackbird review which was mentioned on a previous vlog, would be interested to know your views as I owned one about 20 years ago. 👌
Gor delayed but hopefully coming in the next couple of months!
What a fantastic bike, love these reviews of older bikes, what a cracking bike for sub £5k, Cheers Andy.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I absolutley love your classic bike reviews, i'm not after another bike at the moment, but i love going on auto trader and looking at all the classic bikes, there's plenty of bargains to be had. I won't be surprised if you have a Triumph Tiger 1050 lined up, as a classic bike review ?
You know I used to have one right?
I knew you had one, that's why I mentioned it. I've still got my 2019 1050, I bought 2 years ago, due to your review, back in 2017. It's still going strong.
Great reaction Andy. Talk to Chops about his 2007 GSXR1000. He's loving it and agrees with you about older sports bikes. Also 44teeth saying the same!
Maybe there's somethinbg in it then!
I bought my first R1 in 2004. It was the first model with the under seat pipes, so the model after the one in the review, but very similar. I test rode all the top sports bikes back then and that R1 was by far the best in its day. The only thing if you want to be going quick, you need to be over 8K. Once you went above 8K and up to the red line (14K I seem to remember) it was like a switch to travelling at warp speed...
Nice bike, nice review 👍
Cheers Graham - and yes going by the comments I reckon this is a late plated 03 MY afterall...
@@TheMissendenFlyer Still a wonderful Bike Andy... 👍
Love these classic bike reviews, my favourites along with the flying vids. Treat yourself TMF, buy it!
I was sorely tempted - if only I had room!
Great bike and video. Love that Quatararo helmet.
What a corker Andy stunning bike lovely colour and yes I am a fan never rode one though .Such great value what more would you need ,I reaally enjoy these used bike test you do and it shows as you say ya don't have to take out a mortgage to have a great bike .😊👌Peachy
Thanks for watching once again!
I'm sure others have probably pointed this out, but this is a 2002-2003 model, not a 2004. This generation was unique in that the engine had a strong mid range compared to other 1000cc bikes. It was also the first R1 to have fuel injection. It also didn't come with a steering damper, which no one understood since it had one of the most aggressive steering angles of any sportbike at the time. I owned one and I can attest to getting tank slappers all the time until I installed a Toby damper on the top like the bike in this video. I had a friend with a 2004 and while it had a similar feel overall, it got a big bump in top-end power. These ones really lit up nicely in the top end, a lot more than the 2002-2003. Another buddy had a nice 2007 R1 with a flash and a few mods, and it was stupid fast. It was comparable to my current 2013 HP4, power wise. Something about the R1s though ... I always liked the 2000-2001 model the best, they aged really well, still look great today when you see a clean one. The 2002-2003 tail always bothered me, I always found it a bit too long ...
I've a got a 2010 str, and I love the riding position and how its so nimble. I love looking at sport bikes but I don't know if I would be comfortable in the different riding position. Also my str isn't really comfortable for the Mrs on the back and she's small. So looking to get a tiger 800 xrt or the xrx for my next bike. Thanks for the awesome videos as always. 👍
Thanks for watching and for stopping by!
Loving the reviews on older bikes. i was wondering if you had ever considered doing a review on the Honda Varadero Xl1000 fuel injection models? also even the yamaha yzf600r thundercat?
They’re on the list!
I'm unlucky in the case I haven't got enough room in my garage. A statement that made me chuckle 😃
Since the first Fireblade until let's say...2008,there are exceptional bikes you can ride Andy!so...keep on riding !!!!
These really are great bikes.
Blast you Andy! Now I'm away to look for one of these in the classifieds.
(are they still called classifieds???)
R1 anorak here 😂
That’s a 5pw model so probably a late registered one, 2004 the 5vy came out which was the last of the 20v variants, would love to see you do a series of older R1 reviews maybe every model 😎
Thanks for that!
I have a 4xv which i believe is the first? Got it a 1 year ago as my first bike, only 2 pervious owners - the last owner had it for 20 years!!!!
Didn’t think these Classic Reviews would be relevant or interesting to me, but I have really enjoyed everyone. Great idea! Be nice to compare this R1 to a Blade of similar vintage. I owned a Blade (loved it) & always wondered if I should have gone for the R1 instead.
Glad you like them!
Great bike and review 👍
Glad you liked it Malcolm...
Here you have me looking at the used market again, Andy! I would love some nice old sportsbike in the garage
Me too! If I had the room I would have bought this one......
@@TheMissendenFlyer well time to remodel the home, then. Do you really need a kitchen anyway? You can fit some bikes there...
5th gen vfr800, if you can find a good one to test I'd like to hear your opinion, I'd love one of these but couldn't hack that riding position anymore.
Andy the R1 Yamaha has always been a good bike and still is.The problem that you have with older performance motorcycles is the valve stem oil seals.They turn as hard as rock and can cause a lot of problems. So yes buy an R1 but be prepared to spend a few quid on it now or in the near future.
Wow! I have a Silver 2003 I picked up in the summer after selling my 2003 Aprilia RSV Mille 🥲 but this bike is amazing! Just needs new spark plugs a exup delete and new air filter 👌🏾
Love the classic review series. Every motorbike Ytuber is out there riding the same new bikes so this is a breath of fresh air.
Also helps that I want something older as a second bike the work on, so this gives me some inspiration. Not an R1 though, I'm nowhere near ready!
So what type of bike do you fancy Ashley?
@@TheMissendenFlyer Current musings ... Monster S2r, VFR, ZX-9r.
More broadly, something fuel injected and early 2000s that's reasonable to work on and with a bit of shove. Any ideas?
Great review again. Bikes were great in that era. You've made me want to go and look for one myself. Shows you don't have to spend £15k+ to get a decent bike. I know ABS is a legal requirement now but makes me ask the question do bikes 'Really' need all the electronics that we have now. Also can I call you Andy or do I have to refer to you as Mr Flyer. Sir. Lol
You can call me what you like!
“That’s what makes a bike good, if it puts a smile on your face.” Amen, brother.
That's all that counts if you're a hobbyist isn't it....
That’s actually the 2002/2003 version. The 04-06 have the under seat exhaust…I know because I bought a 06 two weeks ago 😛. Great review Andy!
Thanks James and enjoy your new bike!
I got 38k miles on my 05 r1. Will never sell
A small correction, the bike you have featured here is a 03 model (with a 04 plate). The spec you read out was for the 5vy R1 which had underseat exhausts. That went from 04 - 06. In 07 they went to the 4 valve head as you rightly said. In the later run of the 5VY an SP version was made that had ohlins suspension front and back, then a slipper clutch and different cylinder head giving another 5 bhp. I've not seen one of them for sale in a while, but my wallet clamped shut when seeing the price! All the best and great review as always.
Thanks for the clarrifications - I bow to your greater knowledge! Thanks for watching and for stopping by...
This is great. Most vloggers makes just reviews of new expensive bikes. In Finland bikes are not cheap, taxes are highsky. I dont see much new bikes here.
Welcome along!
That looks like a good time. These bikes were so good I remember reading about Sjaak Lucassen, he rode one around the world!
Cool!
Yes I`ve just discovered his postings on CZcams...if you go to his website you can buy a book describing his travels .
A blast from the past....Buying older bikes may a good way of adding another to your stable...If you had spare cash. Good point when making a purchase... asking yourself....could I live with this bike.
Another great review I must say I didn’t know that you have a Panaigale I don’t think you have ever told us that you have one in any of your videos lol
I sure have! ….and have many videos on here to prove it!
@@TheMissendenFlyer I think you know that’s not what I meant
Never owned a full sports bike Never wanted one always liked the look but owning one it would not get used lovely looking bike love the colour 😀
I can tell you really enjoy riding it!
I did - great bike!
Great video as ever. Look better just blue without stickers and original exhaust on it.
Yes I agree….
Generally in Australia with flashes it’s the cops 👮♀️ or speed cameras. Or an accident on a rare occasion. Great 👍 review of the R1 , I have a 1985 FZ750 Yamaha it was the first of the 20 valve engine.
Thanks for watching and for stopping by!
R1 5 pw...had one of these that got run over by an artic while parked up...lovely bike...big enough and comfy enough,used mine to ride around France and Belgium and the ring...looked really cool with the after burner rear led
Modern electronics wise, how long before we get sport bikes with an 'Osteo' button, where the bike alters shape to fit you?
Sounds good to me!
Yamaha's deltabox frame has been around since 1982 , when they nicked the idea from Spanish engineer Antonio - JJ Cobas...............Think the r1 deltabox frame in the early 2000's were hydroformed so they needed less welds
Thanks for the review, Andy. Accurate and to the point. That 2004 R1 has been my dream for a long time (not that colour scheme, though). Unfortunately, I could not find a suitable one. Having said that just a slight remark: how a biker owning such a jewel could fit those tyres to it? A front Pirelli Diablo Super Corsa may be acceptable but, a rear Michelin Pilot Road? There is not only a mismatch but those old Pilot Roads are definitely rubbish too. I would be much more respectful to such motorbike. Cheers.
I hadn’t even spotted that!
My 1990 FZR1000exup had a delta box frame and they were around before that, are you sure they made an r1 that didn’t have a delta box frame ?
Nope - I'm not an expert and bow to your greater knowledge!
I had a 2004 fazer 1000 in the same colour. Not quite an r1 but could still give the superbikes a good run. Was also comfortable and roomy as a pillion machine. Perhaps a video on one as a comparison would be nice?
I’m trying very hard to get a fazer!
The sun is shining.
Coffee smelling goods.
TMF on the tube.
A perfect start to the day before a ride.
A superb machine. Everything you need and nothing you don't. Less than 5K. And a new one or a blade is how much?
Why would you PCP a new one when the deposit for a pcp would probably buy this appreciating asset outright?
Good one, thanks for sharing
Happy travels 👍
Very good point TT!
Same as my bike ❤ absolutely love it, over 50k miles on the clock and still she's got me to over 170 mph with ease, bonkers machine.
Same as mine , 51k miles good for just over 175!
These early naughties bikes are perfect for the road. I've just bought a k2 gsxr 600 after selling my 18 plate 1000..... I don't regret it at all
Good call!
"of cours they still make the R1 til this day" words that will never be spoken again sadly!
Yes it's a shame isn't it - you never know though, never say never!
Still got my 99 R1, best bike I've owned and still looks great 👍 Throw some panniers on it and it's a decent tourer too!
Nice 👍
She may be old but still got what it takes...
100%
Hi TMF, great video! Couldn't help but notice the new Fabio Quartararo replica Scorpion helmet. Any chance you'll review it?
Yes in due course!
I remember when this model came out. Only available for a couple of years and the first with fuel injection. My brother had a 02 bike which was one of the last with carbs and the previous out going model when he bought it and that was a great bike with amazing low down torque. Always wish I had bought it off him when he sold it. I had a later 4 valve under seat pipe version which was blue with gold wheels btw and I even toured the UK on it I wouldn't do that on the current R1! Btw after the R1 I had a 2011 blade for 8 years if you can get a blade of that vintage you really should test one. Its an amazing road bike for sports bike. It ran for years with only minor changes. Try one you will be impressed
It's on the list Paul!
Couldn't stand the R1, but loved this video.....keep up the classic reviews...