Maybe you should do an updated comparison using the new 80 percent arms gen 2 jig.In my opinion the new gen 2 from 80 percent arms is the way to go especially with the vacuum attachment built in.Solid steel 3/4 side plates along with the optional hardened steel hand drill stabilizers makes it so much more efficient.80 percent arms also uses a custom 5/16 end mill turned down to fit in a 1/4 inch collet router.You can buy the combo jig that does AR15, AR9, and .308 lowers as well as their tool kit and the hand drill stabilizers for around $350.00.
The gen 3 80% arms jig is very similar to the 5 d. . I just got one and it seems pretty simple. Haven't got to use it yet. Been laying on my couch in pain. But I think it is the best jig I've ever had. Hope to get my medicine tomorrow so I can get to it.
Good comparison video, thanks! I own the 80% Arms jig and have used it to complete several lowers. With that said, I ordered the 5D Tactical because I have a New Frontier 9mm lower that won't work with the 80% Arms (the jig from New Frontier is complete junk, don't waste your money) I'm hoping I can rescue my 9mm lower as its kinda butchered up right now due to the poor quality of the NF jig!
@@crazydave1145 I did. It worked for the intended purpose, but not sure there was enough value there to justify the purchase. I could have bought 2-3 more lowers that work on my other jig for the cost of this jig
I have both of these in 308. Both work very well and both are easy to use. I do like the 5D more, especially cutting the trigger slot. I also bought a Blitzkrieg Tactical jig. I do not recommend it. Almost a perfect design but really need a mill to cut out the back part of lower.
IMHO a better comparison would be with 5D Tactical and the 80% Arms Easy Jig Gen2. I wrote my own review and the Gen2 is better for 2 big reasons: 1. Interchangeable between AR-15, AR-9 & 308 in which you use the same pieces without a conversion kit. 5D requires additional pieces. Whereas the Gen2 does not. 2. Measure, mill and no longer swapping pieces. In the case of 5D, you don't swap out templates like the Gen1, but you're still swapping out pins on the routing plate. With the Gen2, you just measure and mill.
I feel that 80% Arms copied 5D Tactical and Modulus Arms Jig with their new Gen2. I believe that 80% Arms just tweaked their Gen2 to make it even better. At the end of the day the customer wins lol.
I've been wanting to buy a easy jig I just can't bring myself to spending $200 on it lol I have an 80% lower that needs finished so I will end up having to buy one some time soon I guess. thanks for video and thanks for sharing great video great info God bless you if you want to get rid of the easy jig pm me
brianj123458 here’s a thought make one then buy a kit from anywhere sell it & get all ur money hack & then some 😂.... just a thought thoe you know ofc that’s totally illegal.......😎
The EASY JIG has an updated model that resolves some negatives. 1. only drill trigger hole now and 2. the milling flute runs in a bearing that makes doing the walls easier and no jig dammage.
I agree!! Time for me to post up some reviews of the Gen II easy jig. I milled 4 lowers, to find that the fire/safety pin hole was oval. You can't see it by the naked eye so much as to when you assemble a lower. Emailed 80% to get some feedback that it's my fault for not using the "drill stabilizers". I was surprised to be blamed, because I followed their instructions AND tutorial video to a "T". The whole reason for my conversation with them in the first place stemmed from a mistapped hole on the 308 side of the mill 'wall'. It wasn't cross threaded, but seemed to be too big and wouldn't allow a bolt to tighten. They are replacing the walls, but told me that's all that they're doing to rectify the issue (of my 4 lowers with an oversized/oval fire/safety pin hole). Customer service is not their specialty.
@@JohnnyJ50f my holes all came out perfect, so far. They have Joe in customer service now, he replaced the drill block that didn't line up, expedited the shipping & got me a free shirt for my inconvenience... Yeah, it took a week of calling him, but he did finally come thru.
@@crazydave1145 That's cool. And glad to hear. However, I won't ever do business with them again (speaking solely of 80%)... no matter how many offers I see come through via email. TO blame the customer, for their own issue(s) is something that I'm not happy with. If I was an idiot and caused the issues, no problem I'll own it. But in this case, they are the issue and well, not owning up to anything. I'm off to buy 4 lowers, to move all my hardware over to and I'll be melting the other 4 bad ones (with ovaled hole) in my HOT fire pit. BTW, no free t-shirt here. Not that it would make up for any inconveniences, nor would I wear it. It'd be a shop rag if they sent anything to me. YES... Sour customer here. ;)
Easy Jig gen 2, 30 mins, start to finish. No brainer. Easy Jig all the way. Stupid video... Comparing apples to broccoli. This guy hasn't even tested what he's reviewing...
@@BryantHayward67 Show us then. Compare the two and explain the difference, not just telling us one is better like any shill or fake account could for either side.
check out my finished product on my channel. was so much fun and you get a professional product. one thing get the soft receiver blank mine ate up bits.
@@crazydave1145 actually no because I don't have to really reposition it by removing it from the vice I use a cross slide vise so so transitioning is very quick
@@crazydave1145 also for some people holes will not come out the same and you can actually drill at an angle and accidentally drill out the side or drill at an angle too much. But yes using a handrail fine
80% Arms customer service sucks. They've fucked up my order twice now and each time they fuck it up, they take me out of queue for shipping (it's a 3 week queue, I'm on week five)
80% Arms all the way! I have used theirs and M1 machining jigs. You can't go wrong with either. The 5D however, well that is a horror story all its own!
The guide pins are extremely soft and will come out on you while you are milling. Also, the bushing in the center of the guide plate will drop right out into your lower sending your mill bit into a dance. They will tell you that it is your fault and that you are responsible. They will then proceed to not return your call or message. $300 down the drain. The other thing they won't tell you is that their jig will only work with their parts and lowers.
Samuel Adams wow lets put some more false information on the internet! 5d works with all lowers ar15 and ar10. The only proprietary tools for 5d are their end mill bit. Ive done over 10 lowers with my 5d and only replaced the bearing once. still on the same end mill bit. Stop putting false information out.
@@ysb-ant8600 It's a fact...5D looks great, but the 80-percent gen 2 is even better. Only 1 pilot hole. And more universal router base plate. Come on, idiot.
@@BryantHayward67 Agreed!! Also, Gen2 does 9's & 10's, not just 15's. However, I do prefer the template for the 5D, the Gen2 does not allow you to fully mill to 1968 specs😉
@@crazydave1145 the 5D will do 15, 9, 45, and 10. You have to get a small adapter to house the ar10 lower, but 5d will definitely do them all, and also has a single pilot hole. Looks to me like the gen 2 and 5D are pretty equal, it's just where you want to spend your money
I got the 80% arms one worked flawlessly and no wait
you should compare with the Gen 2
You should have compared the 5D to the Easy Jig Gen 2 if it was available.
I cannot find a comparison of the Gen 2 easy jig and the Gen 2 router jig PRO anywhere online!
i look forward to your video about the process..........
Very helpful information. Thank you for taking the time. 👍
Thanks for the comparison! .
Does New Frontier Armory lowers fit in the 5 D Tactical jig? thanks
so hes doing a VS without having actually used the 5D jig?! 9:18 "I still haven't tested this jig out." COME ON!
🤣🤣 thanks, just saved me wasting any more time. The Gen2 easy jig is awesome.
I have used the 5D and it works for me ;-)
19:00 - Conclusion
Maybe you should do an updated comparison using the new 80 percent arms gen 2 jig.In my opinion the new gen 2 from 80 percent arms is the way to go especially with the vacuum attachment built in.Solid steel 3/4 side plates along with the optional hardened steel hand drill stabilizers makes it so much more efficient.80 percent arms also uses a custom 5/16 end mill turned down to fit in a 1/4 inch collet router.You can buy the combo jig that does AR15, AR9, and .308 lowers as well as their tool kit and the hand drill stabilizers for around $350.00.
The gen 3 80% arms jig is very similar to the 5 d. . I just got one and it seems pretty simple. Haven't got to use it yet. Been laying on my couch in pain. But I think it is the best jig I've ever had. Hope to get my medicine tomorrow so I can get to it.
@@stevenwagner9912 did you use it?
Good comparison video, thanks! I own the 80% Arms jig and have used it to complete several lowers. With that said, I ordered the 5D Tactical because I have a New Frontier 9mm lower that won't work with the 80% Arms (the jig from New Frontier is complete junk, don't waste your money) I'm hoping I can rescue my 9mm lower as its kinda butchered up right now due to the poor quality of the NF jig!
5055hunter Were you able to salvage your NF 9mm lower with the 5D jig? This is the very reason I'm thinking about ordering this Jig
I haven't received it yet. Still on back-order since 2/12. Back order is 3-4 weeks so I'm hoping to receive it in the next week or 2.
@@5055hunter did you ever get it?
@@crazydave1145 I did. It worked for the intended purpose, but not sure there was enough value there to justify the purchase. I could have bought 2-3 more lowers that work on my other jig for the cost of this jig
I own both. Used the Easy Jig once. Hated all the drilling. Bought the 5D and after using it, would never go back to the Easy Jig.
Want to sell the easy jig?
@@nickstewart1572 yes
Email me at backyardwelder7018@gmail.com
@@nickstewart1572 sorry just emailed you....9547504@gmail.com
@@nickstewart1572 actually says backyardwelder7081@gmail.com no email
I have both of these in 308. Both work very well and both are easy to use. I do like the 5D more, especially cutting the trigger slot. I also bought a Blitzkrieg Tactical jig. I do not recommend it. Almost a perfect design but really need a mill to cut out the back part of lower.
IMHO a better comparison would be with 5D Tactical and the 80% Arms Easy Jig Gen2. I wrote my own review and the Gen2 is better for 2 big reasons:
1. Interchangeable between AR-15, AR-9 & 308 in which you use the same pieces without a conversion kit. 5D requires additional pieces. Whereas the Gen2 does not.
2. Measure, mill and no longer swapping pieces. In the case of 5D, you don't swap out templates like the Gen1, but you're still swapping out pins on the routing plate. With the Gen2, you just measure and mill.
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I feel that 80% Arms copied 5D Tactical and Modulus Arms Jig with their new Gen2. I believe that 80% Arms just tweaked their Gen2 to make it even better. At the end of the day the customer wins lol.
Easy jig Gen2 is awesome!!!
I can tell just by looking at the diff peices in each. 5d 100 percent for me!
Where can I find a jig set that’s not specifically built by 5D that’s compatible?
any one worked on one of these from orange county california?
Thanks for the info, best vid on this I've seen!
bought mine about a week ago, but it's back ordered to about 4-6 weeks.. looks much simpler than the 80 arms jig I used on my first one.
it finally shipped, says 1-3 days for shipping so I expect it to be here by Wednesday 👍
This is exactly the same jig as the 80% gen 3 just different color anodizing. Probably made in the exact same factory in China.
I've been wanting to buy a easy jig I just can't bring myself to spending $200 on it lol I have an 80% lower that needs finished so I will end up having to buy one some time soon I guess. thanks for video and thanks for sharing great video great info God bless you if you want to get rid of the easy jig pm me
brianj123458 broken arms jig is much better and less expensive
brianj123458 dude trust me it's worth the investment
brianj123458 here’s a thought make one then buy a kit from anywhere sell it & get all ur money hack & then some 😂.... just a thought thoe you know ofc that’s totally illegal.......😎
The EASY JIG has an updated model that resolves some negatives. 1. only drill trigger hole now and 2. the milling flute runs in a bearing that makes doing the walls easier and no jig dammage.
Can you do AR9 lower with the easy jig? Gen1
Yes
You can with the Gen2 & you can do 10's as well
Modulus arms, 80%arms and 5d tactical are all owned by the same bunch.
Not sure where you’re getting your numbers but, it’s three hours to do an 80% on the 5D Tactical jig
Three hours? Dude you are high on something
It doesn’t take more than an hour even in the first try 1:20 tops
Same company owns them both!!!
The 5d is the best jig out if u dont wanna f ur lower up i highly recommend it its so ez to use its fool proof
I agree!! Time for me to post up some reviews of the Gen II easy jig. I milled 4 lowers, to find that the fire/safety pin hole was oval. You can't see it by the naked eye so much as to when you assemble a lower.
Emailed 80% to get some feedback that it's my fault for not using the "drill stabilizers". I was surprised to be blamed, because I followed their instructions AND tutorial video to a "T".
The whole reason for my conversation with them in the first place stemmed from a mistapped hole on the 308 side of the mill 'wall'. It wasn't cross threaded, but seemed to be too big and wouldn't allow a bolt to tighten.
They are replacing the walls, but told me that's all that they're doing to rectify the issue (of my 4 lowers with an oversized/oval fire/safety pin hole). Customer service is not their specialty.
@@JohnnyJ50f my holes all came out perfect, so far. They have Joe in customer service now, he replaced the drill block that didn't line up, expedited the shipping & got me a free shirt for my inconvenience... Yeah, it took a week of calling him, but he did finally come thru.
@@crazydave1145
That's cool. And glad to hear.
However, I won't ever do business with them again (speaking solely of 80%)... no matter how many offers I see come through via email. TO blame the customer, for their own issue(s) is something that I'm not happy with. If I was an idiot and caused the issues, no problem I'll own it. But in this case, they are the issue and well, not owning up to anything.
I'm off to buy 4 lowers, to move all my hardware over to and I'll be melting the other 4 bad ones (with ovaled hole) in my HOT fire pit.
BTW, no free t-shirt here. Not that it would make up for any inconveniences, nor would I wear it. It'd be a shop rag if they sent anything to me.
YES... Sour customer here. ;)
one problem, 5d is back ordered right now
ak47man71 kalash so what, still worth it.
Get a foot switch. That way you can have two hands on the router when starting and stopping.
Easy jig 2hrs start to finish...5D tactical 1hr 15 mins start to finish, 6061 lowers... 5D all the way great video
Easy Jig gen 2, 30 mins, start to finish. No brainer. Easy Jig all the way. Stupid video... Comparing apples to broccoli. This guy hasn't even tested what he's reviewing...
@@BryantHayward67 Show us then. Compare the two and explain the difference, not just telling us one is better like any shill or fake account could for either side.
check out my finished product on my channel. was so much fun and you get a professional product. one thing get the soft receiver blank mine ate up bits.
Wait-what?!
You haven’t even used the 5D jig?
How the HELL can you do a review of something you haven’t used? What a waste of time..
Its coming sooner or later, any .223 will have to be registered in Cali. Watch.
idioticadam they are making CA compliant 80% lowers with serial numbers. Fuck that!!!! it's unjust do not comply
Don’t tell on yourself!
drilling out the 80% Arms with a hand drill is not hard at all I don't know what you possibly could be doing to make it hard
Right!! The hand drill is faster than repositioning the jig on the drill press & the holes come out the same either way
@@crazydave1145 actually no because I don't have to really reposition it by removing it from the vice I use a cross slide vise so so transitioning is very quick
@@crazydave1145 also for some people holes will not come out the same and you can actually drill at an angle and accidentally drill out the side or drill at an angle too much. But yes using a handrail fine
@@moderngunguy3666 I use a $15 HF vise🤣 but my DeWalt drill has a bubble & I bought the $10 stabilizers just to be safe.
80% Arms customer service sucks. They've fucked up my order twice now and each time they fuck it up, they take me out of queue for shipping (it's a 3 week queue, I'm on week five)
Damn its pretty obvious that 80% Arms copied 5D Tactical's JIG. I wonder if there is any patent infringement because its ridiculously similar.
80% Arms all the way! I have used theirs and M1 machining jigs. You can't go wrong with either. The 5D however, well that is a horror story all its own!
What happened with the 5D that made you not care for it?
The guide pins are extremely soft and will come out on you while you are milling. Also, the bushing in the center of the guide plate will drop right out into your lower sending your mill bit into a dance. They will tell you that it is your fault and that you are responsible. They will then proceed to not return your call or message. $300 down the drain. The other thing they won't tell you is that their jig will only work with their parts and lowers.
Samuel Adams wow lets put some more false information on the internet! 5d works with all lowers ar15 and ar10. The only proprietary tools for 5d are their end mill bit. Ive done over 10 lowers with my 5d and only replaced the bearing once. still on the same end mill bit. Stop putting false information out.
jared Eaton yo I just got my 5D jig in and I have a new frontier lower will this work? It should be here tomorrow.
Samuel Adams, you're a lying shill, denigrating the name of a great man. I'd kick your ass for the name alone.
Sounds like this guy is in the 5d tactical back pocket. One sided review.
el david 7 because it’s obviously better lol come on now idiot
@@ysb-ant8600 It's a fact...5D looks great, but the 80-percent gen 2 is even better. Only 1 pilot hole. And more universal router base plate. Come on, idiot.
@@BryantHayward67 Agreed!! Also, Gen2 does 9's & 10's, not just 15's. However, I do prefer the template for the 5D, the Gen2 does not allow you to fully mill to 1968 specs😉
@@crazydave1145 the 5D will do 15, 9, 45, and 10. You have to get a small adapter to house the ar10 lower, but 5d will definitely do them all, and also has a single pilot hole. Looks to me like the gen 2 and 5D are pretty equal, it's just where you want to spend your money
5D, 80% arms and Modulus are all sister companies. They have the same owners. All the jigs are made in the same shop.
How do you get 8 times less of anything? Do you mean 1/8 of the deflection, or vibration, or chattering? Learn proper English please.
Omg this shit drags on. Stop
..please.
They’re the same company. Biggest joke in the industry. They’re pretending to complete against themselves.
Too much work!! just buy a upper !!!
These are for lowers dumbass