223 -vs- 5.56: FACTS and MYTHS
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Here it is! Essential facts and common misconceptions related to both 223/5.56 ammunition, as well as 223/5.56 rifles. Don't forget to check out the full write-up! (see link above).
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89.6% of the comments left on this video are from people that obviously didn't watch the entire video. PLEASE WATCH FIRST, THEN COMMENT! :)
gavintoobe why do you have such a specific non discreet percentage? Did you run through all of the comments and divide the null responses by the total and multiplied by 100?
Lemurai satire lost here - but the actual numbers can’t be far from that! 😂
gavintoobe tbh, It’s a shame the masses could care less about this stuff, they just want to point and shoot, no research no technical jargon, BUT, I care, the difference between knowing and not knowing is a finger(s), hand, or a life. Plus exploring the technical aspect of it is something people should research more. I’m a student nurse anesthetist, we get a lot of preventable trauma cases like people trying to quick draw a Glock 22 like it was a revolver in their back yard. But anyway keep educating, it will save lives, is a great help to occupational health and prevents them from becoming a training tool for me in the OR.👍🏽 Def worth subscribing too!
@@joshmai8462 It's 5.56 MM - look on a military ammo crate/can. Do people say 556? Yes. Do people say 5.56 Yes. Do they mean the same thing? Absolutely.
Is shooting 5.56 in a 223 chambered rifle equivalent to the incremental damage done to a none nato specified handgun shooting 124gr or more ammo?
Another fun fact, as we all recently learned, a .223 round is capable of nearly severing an arm.
It will be leaving you wanting a medic I hear.
.223 is certainly a sufficient communist eraser
Steve Witte which is why you aim center mass in dealing with Communists.
The most unfortunate thing about that issue is Communists are too stupid to learn. If that wasn't so, they would be constitutionalists not communists.
Hahahahahaha
Best 223 vs 556 discussion ever. Lots of facts, no speculation, appropriate warnings, and, greatly appreciated, no wasted words. Thank you.
@@Fister_of_Muppets if you want to live and love your life do not listen to this guy. He is dead wrong
@@baybreederbayarea510 🤦♂️🤡
Cost..... 223 is 5 or 6 bucks a box of 20. More of a hunting round. 5.56 is $.29 a round...
@Patrick Flatley apples and oranges.... Your arguments right. But. Not the right argument for this topic. Your explaining cost isn't important. when your life is on the line. I agree totally. BUT, your shooting 5.56 NATO. Not .223 (are you not)? I have never seen .223 green tip bullets. I would love to buy them if they make it.
My point was totally different! My point was saying why we shoot 5.56 in our .223 (primarily the early mini 14). And the cost of .223 is significantly higher than 5.56.
I hope you can understand the thread now. Out of respect, I do not wish to troll you.
My MAIN point, nobody has ever seen a .223 rifle blown up running. 5.56 in it. And we run 5.56 in our .223 due to cost.
@Patrick Flatley Your fine: I have a early mini . I have only shot a few hundred rounds of 5.56 in it never a ftf. But I do run brass, Never steel. Generally I fire other guns more.
Moreover, every gun Smith I meet, I ask if he's ever seen a .223 blown up running 5.56 in it. So far, none have.
One guy saw a ar (homebuilt Anderson) blow up running too hot hand loaded 5.56 in it. I guess the scales were off. Human error!
Federal used to have factory loads too hot sometimes, (lot of lots recalled) a uncle if mine had a savage 99 blow up when he had some 'double' loads in it. (2 sets of powder, and 2 bullets in 1 case). Federal bought him a new savage. - long time ago.
Barnes had a book with tables off, I was running 124 grains of hmr 3540 in a 30-378 weatherby in a sako action. MAX was 114 grains!
Gun held the super over pressure, though when primers started to vaporize I stopped shooting and found the issue. Point is, guns are built a lot stronger than rated.
Anyhow, have a nice day. Welcome home!
I kept imagining all the people watching this video with their eyes glazed over going “I just wanted to know if I could shoot this 5.56 in my AR”
Consult you manufacturer.
And you can if it's marked for a 5.56. But that's why I like my Galil, it's good for any and all of those cartridges, my Valmet was too. Hope those guys that stole them get their faces blown off!
@@Sealacamp my Springfield Saint will fire both also. I agree with you sentiment.
You sound like you watch Tim Pool. Lol.
Thats why I am here, but I am glad to have learned more than what I came for.
In the late 60’s all of my military training was with the M-14 a big heavy weapon. Once I got to Vietnam with no training whatsoever I was given M-16. A bit of a shock but that lightweight rifle could pound out some round.
Wow one of those Guys too? I was Given an M16 and thought it was Fake! LOL.
@@billg4369 lol!!! I love you veteran's!! The guy I respect the most in this world was a Vietnam veteran he ran a M60 . whenever he tells me about his time over there it's crazy!! I have so much respect for what you guys went through!!! Man sometimes when he just talks nonchalant about daily life during that time it blows me away!!!one time I said I couldn't amagine being a tunnel rat in war and he responded we were all tunnel rats! You've never been more scared in your life!! They took turns I guess and sometimes they used dogs to but no matter a guy had go in two!! I don't think this nation has people like you anymore and it's scary as hell! This woke military now is just sad! Not to say their all that way....but come on!!! WTF happened to are pride and patriotic beliefs!!! Jesus Christ Biden is in the Whitehouse!!!! Every generation before gen z knows who he is and always has been!!! Now is older people have to stand up and try to be as great as you guys were!! Hard thing to do! Anyways god bless Jerry Smith!! A man worthy of mention! Yet he'd just say I was just doing my job!!! ........god bless America and long live the Republic!!!!
Thank you for your service. Many of us Americans appreciate your service more than we could ever possibly put into words.❤
I just forgot all of my children's birthdays to make room for all that information.
Lord of the Plains holy shoot that made me cackle
LOL. I can identify!
Hopefully your children will remember what every generation of my family since we gave up our Titles from George respected... Never give up your arms or Society will become communist and disregard human life
LOL
Reason #14 why I don't have children
Doesn’t matter here in Summer 2020. Can’t find either.
Preach 😩
I couldn't find any either untill I shopped local. Go to a mom and pops gun store. I found plenty then.
really ? I just bought a 300 blackout :) happy now.
I just got 500 rounds of each in Orange a county
@@angelespino2513 Florida or Cali, never mind both are a disgrace.
Thank-you so much for putting this story together. I appreciate easy to understand explanations, and yours were/are. You answered many questions other shooters and I had. Look forward to seeing some of your other productions.
Dear Gavin Toobe, Yes we do need another 5.56 vs. 223 video. This was explained beautifully and cleared up a lot of questions I had. I thought I knew it all after shooting my AR 23 for years and the M16 in the Marine Corps. Thank you.-Paul
Paul, I've not shot a .223 but I own a .222 rifle. I trained with the M14 during basic but learned to shoot the M16 after I received my orders to head to Vietnam. I'm sure the ammo and the firearms are very different now than they were then. Time has a way of resolving the problems which the early models have since they don't always identify the issues until later on.
what is a AR 23 ?
I don’t know about everybody else here, but I found this interesting.
I learned something.
Thanks for putting this video together. 👍🏼
This guy appears to be an engineer, so I learned something for sure.
Mikevdog - nothing wrong with being an engineer. 👍🏼 😉
no one can know about everyone else....can they🤔
same here, because I am over 1/2 century old and new to reloading. I am taking all the precautions I can.
Who's part of the 10.4% that watched the entire video? Happy shooting and happy reloading!
Reloading, fun to mention, how to do ball ammo, ever try a 4inch block of aluminum afor smelting for wind roosters or mail box tops? The ball does alot more then a lead reload,quess the rest.
not me... looking just for the answer to sum up an otherwise uninteresting video
Jeffrey P - I had to get out 1/3 the way through video to prevent wasting any more of my evening.
SEEN TOO many of these STUPID videos ALREADY! 😡
Obviously NOT the Idiot who disagrees.
Excellent video. Thank-you! I re-watch this video about once a year. It is full of quality information from start to finish. Thank-you once again for posting this. 👍👍👍
This is a very high level, well-researched vid packed with great info about the neverending 5.56/223 saga. I downloaded it to be replayed when I am in a bourbon induced coma and therefore more receptive to watching in its entirety (maybe even comprehending) in one sitting.
A fellow gentleman of class and status, I see.
Class act
@@joshuabeck6008 Lol
I am on the coma, i know what you try to say 🙂
You delivered an exceptional, highly detailed description like no one else. Thank you!
Sir,
I discovered your site a few weeks ago by a lucky accident. While I have served in the Marines for almost 20 years, I have experience with many firearms from Flint & Wheel locks, Bolts to Pumps, Hand&Long guns to Howitzers and calibers from .117 to 120mm.
I have made gunpowder from scratch and enjoyed the reputation of being a Weapons Expert. What I have lacked is the knowledge of reloading. I want to express my gratitude to your channel for the explanation of how and why on reloading.
Thank you and God bless.
L.D. Morris
During emergency situations at Clark AB Philippines in 1988-1990, I actually carried an early Colt production US Government owned AR-15s (no where on the rifle was "M-16" written) with XM-148s attached. The serial numbers were within the first 10,000 rifles produced, and caliber was listed as ".223 Remington".
Thanks for sharing Earl. I am retired USAF myself and this seems typical as the Air Force would be the last to change out our small arms. My 1st side arm in the 80's was a six shot .38 SPL revolver from the 1950's. Army was converting from the 1911 to the 9mm Beretta M9 during this time frame. Not knocking the USAF.....we are not a ground combat force and we simply use whatever Big Army uses for small arms...after the Big Army is equipped first.
@@TheKCaryer When I got to Clark in 1988, the Law Enforcement troops in the 3rd LES were all carrying M-9s. The Security Specialists in the 3rd SPS (which I was one) were generally carrying M-16s, M-203s, and M-60s. During emergency situations where we needed more people armed in both Squadrons we'd issue the Colt AR-15 601s with XM-148. When I got to the 97th SPS at Eaker AFB Arkansas in 1990, the LE troops were still carrying the .38 Special S&W M-15s. I also got a brand new M-16A2 at Incirlik AB Turkey in 1994, but had to switch back to an old M-16 at Minot AFB ND in 1995. What you carried depended on in which Major Command you were in. PACAF & USAFE got first dibs on new weapons, SAC & USAFSC had to wait. I'm sure Curtis E. LeMay is spinning in his grave knowing that his beloved SAC, & to a lesser extent Space Command, were getting "Shafted".
General Curtis LeMay had originally gotten the AR-15 for the Air Force; the ones noted here were probably from that batch. The Army initially didn't want this rifle, and it was the Army's production contract that brought changes that differentiated the Colt AR-15 from the M-16.
This may have been the rifle without a forward bolt assist. It was called the Air Force model. I qualified with it in AIT at Fort Gordon Gorgia.
Compound this by modern commercial ammo that is marked ".223/5.56" on the box.
Your explination of the differences between the two cartridges is the best I've heard yet. Thank you.
Chuck
... explanation* ...
Of all the 1000s of vids on the topic, this ones the most concise, thoroughly explored, and well explained. Thanks for the info. Nicely done!
Yeah then explain why thousands of shooters use 5.56 x45 in 233 chambers without problems or why reloads aren't blowing up guns that have more pressure than any commercial loads.
This is another b.s. video from an idiot that addmited in the video he did the research meaning the idiot doesn't have any personal hands on experiences with this subject.
The fool is just regurgitating hear say information .
You can just liar Adam Schiff as well as this fool.
Excellent video ! I did watch the entire video. Stellar information on such an back and forth on the construction of 5.56 and .223.
Top notch display, and visual aids to explain.
I plan to watch your entire series.
Thank you !
JP
Very relevant and important information for my reloading method as I use both .223 and .556. My main varmint rifle is a Remington 700 with a heavy 1:12 , 26" barrel. Then three AR's. Two 1:7 and one 1:9. I have been using the AR's with low quality bullets to ring steel at 440 yards. A lot of fun to use open sights.
This explains some of the accuracy differences I have had with a Rutgers #1 in 223 when shooting 556 in it. Thanks for the explanation.
Glad you made this video. I have been trying to explain this for 30 years.
I didn’t even know I wanted to know all of this. As always, man, I’m leaving your video smarter than this morning. Thanks, Gavin.
@ Jony Van; thanks,
I couldn't have said it better. 👍
This is the most comprehensive and useful video that I have ever watched on this subject. Thank you.
Now, we got that a side, how about .308 vs 7.62 x 51?
There's a much more apparent difference there, particularly when you consider gas guns with goofy operating rods.
Gregory Park I was going to say the same thing
Would you be thinking 7.62x54r? Those are similar based yet the difference that I know of is that the 7.62 has the boat tail and casing sizes are much more different.
He means .308 Winchester vs 7.62 x 51 Nato
50k CUP is much closer to 62k PSI than people think. There is 7.62 surplus that is higher pressure than commercial .308
I want to add my voice to the others saying that this was the best, most concise explanation vid that I've seen. OP put it exactly as my FFL guy did when I bought my M&P15X. Well done, good sir!
As an Armourer in the Army, and hunter, it's a good article. True to detail.
I've been reloading since dirt. Your info is very accurate. I've reloaded thousands of 223 ammo. Excellent factual video
Thanx for your comprehensive and detailed clarification. Answered my questions.
He answered questions i didn't even know I had. Good vid.
Perhaps the finest comparison of these two rounds I have ever seen. Great job!
Your tempo and oratory skills coupled with the wealth of accurate info you presented in this video is Superb. Great job 👏🏽 Sir 🫡
I've always heard that a simple rule of thumb is that you can shoot 223 in any 5.56 chambered rifle but you should not shoot 5.56 in a 223 chambered rifle.
I always thought that 223 caliber was a small 6mm. So it's actually 5.56mm?
I have been informed by a former homeland security guy that I trust that 223 wylde is the only chamber that can fire both just fine. In fact he has been a family friend for over 20 years
@@kinnordjhs8694 facts
@@kinnordjhs8694 my father was a marine, police, and in homeland security.
You can shoot both out of a 5.56 chambered rifle all day everyday.
@@SubBubz oh. I didn’t know that. Only abt the one barrel cause it’s the one I have. Good to know
Great explanation, easy to follow. Appreciate the time taken to make it quick and simple for those new to the long gun world 👍
One of the best descriptions I’ve seen!
I am a Range Safety Officer in a 4,000 member club. I was watching a member trying to hammer a cartridge into his AR15. I took it away from him because I expected an out of battery incidend. When I checked the barrel is was a 223 chamber and the dealer had sold him 556 ammo telling him if was the same. The case was a quarter inch out of the chamber and would NOT go further. None of the rounds he had would chamber. I am told the 556 chambers are more tolerant of size variance whereas a 223 chamber is NOT. Basic rule of thumb is "shoot the cal printed on your barrel". Simple rule that will keep you save. Similar yes, and you can shoot 223 in a 556 chamber but NOT the other way around. Stay safe and follow the rules. A receiver blowing off the top of your firearm might leave you damaged.
Big difference between design specifications, machining tolerances, and practical example. Some of the chamber differences between .223 and 5.56 fall within machine tolerances of production weapons. The M16 was designed for rapid mass production. They are not hand-crafted precision instruments.
the M16 is exactly the AR or worse, trying to understand. thx
Great video brother! Thanks for taking the time to make and upload this video.
Probably the best most informative information on this topic, short and sweet, thank you.
Excellent video. It definitely clarified some things I had questions about, in particular the pressures of the discharge. Still much to learn but thank you for post.
I had heard the 5.56 free bore was larger than .223 but holy cow, double...... Thanks for clearing that up
I love the way you call your videos, "stories." It sounds more accurate and pleasing than "articles" or "videos." :)
Best discussion on the subject! Thank you for your excellent work on the details and simple drawings.
12:20 minutes non stop, no editing, no Bull SH, pure facts and good info for the beginner? WOW! Awesome
This was perfect man. All my whys were basically answered. Thanks!
Great info, I knew there was a difference but didn’t know where. Thanks for the information, I learned a lot.
Thanks for the review. So much to learn, this was another piece of the pie. From someone who is old school thinking 30-06 in my M1 Garand was minimal stopping power
Love your channel! You got me into reloading! Thank you!
Great video. Will be providing a link to it in many chat rooms and discussions. Thanks a bunch!
Excellent video. Glad I came here for the answer to my question. Nice to see a statistical and data driven presentation.
Great video. I have read and seen lots of videos talking about this subject but I like your explanation the best. Thank you!
Finely a wonderful video covering the true differences with the 223 and the 5.56. Well done I hope to view more of your informative videos in the future.
Excellent information. I recall when I bought my first AR-15 I was a little freaked out about all the confusion surrounding 5.56 and .223. Once I learned that as long as I bought a 5.56 rifle I could shoot either I relaxed.
I did the same.
it is the way
It is the way , nice
I used an M16 when I was in the Army but didn't train on it until I got my orders to go to Vietnam. It's over 50 years ago, so a lot of things have changed. I read the early models of the M16 had issues with jamming but after we got out of Vietnam they found out the reason. Some idjit in the Ordnance Dept. changed the specs to ball powder instead of the long powder the manufacturer specified.
@@Harry-zz2oh Fisrt off thank you sir for your service. My dad and uncle's talking about the jamming issues they experienced in Vietnam kept me away from ARs. I've always been an AK guy. I traded around on a AR in my teens that looking back was built wrong and it really reinforced my disdain for the platform. A few years ago I decided to build an AR and wow it's not at all what I thought. Still love my AKs but I love my ARs too!
"SUBERSONIC" - So, neither subsonic, nor Supersonic, but right inbetween. Just Sonic. Or, as fast as a hedgehog.
It can be both supersonic and subsonic while in between, depending on altitude :)))))
Trans-sonic ammunition
I've found that the Hedge is more than just a bit more than Subsonic compared to the speed of my customized souped up acurized Silverado and especially on Fridays when I am on the way to the bank to get my check in before the bill collectors cash what I wrote out, they just can't get off to the hiway shoulder faster than a souped up Super Sonic Silverado goes by... Therefore Hedge Hogs are confirmed Subsonic critters...
LMFAO
@@RolandArthur Are you trying to dazzle a ballistics expert from Camp Perry and LE June Champion from 1990 on up? You are so full of shit and left fucking field you fucking stink... A 223 round and 5.56 Nato both leave the barrel almost 3,000 miles per hour. The problem with round has never been velocity.. It's been a distance and striking capacity issue... Nothing else... Now go back to the fucking Porn Channels where you are an authority on the subject matters..
This is the kind of explanation for which I have been searching. Thanks
Been reloading for the AR for years without any problems. Yet this video did open my eyes with new thoughts. Thanks will look deeper into this. I use 24.5 grns CFE223 and a 62gn bullet. Great combo. Plus as far as the primer ring I had always beveled the ring and had pretty good success. Reason I do this is I had heard that removing the ring causes loose primers due to the excess space from the ring being removed. I'm not saying I'm right but it has worked for me.
Thanks for sharing. What is your method for beveling? I can imagine a stationary motor with grinding stone and you handle the brass one at a time working over the stone. Am I close?
11:46 "I hope that you found this video useful" I did. I love to hear the science behind it all.
5'12" vs 6'
I see what you did there...
😂
Egglis Boingo 5’12” is usually legit, 6’ is usually 5’11-11.5”. Never trust 6’. Always carry 5’12”
6 vs half a dozen
72 inches vs 1828.8mm
Thank you for such an informative and well researched video. I appreciate your effort and learned a lot. I’m now a new sub. Thanks again and keep up the great work!
You have such a knack for explaining things. This was very informative
Thank you!
Pressure is created, as soon as a bullet starts to engage the rifling. The rifling is slowing the forward progress of the projectile, and imparting a spinning motion. The bullet basically hits the brakes, when the rifling grabs hold of it. This creates added pressure, from the gases that are behind it, trying to propel it down the barrel. Basically, a .223 chambered firearm has LESS space between the chamber and the rifling(free bore, then throat). It's called bullet jump. Add THAT to the fact that a 5.56 bullet is designed to contact the rifling sooner anyway, because of its longer profile(where the bullet begins to curve to a point), and you have A LOT of added pressure created. I hope this adds to his explanation... Very good video!
Thanks, Bob.
I don't know that that's completely true, Jamie. Outside of unusual profile bullets, that longer throat isn't making that much of a difference. As evidence, have you ever found 55 grain "5.56" bullets for reloading as distinguishable from 55 grain ".223" bullets for reloading? And how can one set of reloading dies reload for both the .223 and 5.56? It's because they ARE identical for all PRACTICAL purposes so long as you are not dabbling in exotic composition bullets (like the tracer round profiled in the video). The longer freebore in a 5.56 chamber is so that it can reliably chamber a multitude of military loads (from various supply sources) in dirty battlefield conditions. You are not going to blow up a .223 chamber by firing the M193 and M855 5.56 loadings that get sold to us in the civilian market. And if you look at reloading manuals, you will see load data for longer bullet profiles (way over the 62 grain weight) in the .223 section. If the shorter freebore in the .223 is so dangerous, how can you load heavier (longer) bullets in it which either extend further into the freebore or sit back further in the case ... both of which increase pressure? We live in a day and age where everyone wants to limit liability. This is why the confusion. When asked point blank, no industry member will tell you it's OK to shoot 5.56 in a .223 chamber. But yet how many label their products (ammo boxes, gun manuals, etc.) in such a way to caution you from doing so? It's because their lawyers haven't made them print the material that way ... because no one is suing them over blown up .223 chambers. It's a boogeyman and nothing more. Follow the money.
All this video showed me is to not fire 5.56 NATO tracer ammunition in a .223 Remington chambered rifle even though it shouldn't hurt the rifle or the shooter. People have been seating bullets out to just touch the rifling for well over 120 years for better accuracy. It is when you jam the bullet into the rifling that pressure problems occur, If the bolt closes easily then there should be no problem.
the main difference between mm AND calibre is one measures from the barrel inside diameter --->O
4/1000 (0.223 - 0.218897 = 0.004103)
The best comparison video I've seen to date. Like anything else, glean the best info you can from various sources and come to your own conclusions... Very good job, thank you.
The best explanation I have heard yet! Thanks for putting this video out.
Gavin is a wealth of knowledge and certainly makes it easier to understand. I would love to hear him give his insight to the .223 Wylde chamber, and loading for it.
This has to be the most comprehensive discussion on the debate. Thank you so much.
Best darn video I have yet to see on this subject! Thank you!
looking at those BAGS of ammo just makes me sad.
Casings
Brass
Come over to my range.. I've got thousands of brass casings that need picking up..
This is the best in depth video i could find on this
Well sourced info with comprehensive commentary, love that!
Thank you for this video :o I hear locals talking about how .223 & 5.56 are pretty much the same ammo. But none of them have mentioned or explained to me more in details what differs the 2 from each other like what I have learned from this here.
His video was bs. The max limits are not even close. The difference is so small you can fire 5.56 all day long in 223 with no issues.
Gavin.....another excellent video sir, thank you for taking the time to create these, very informative sir. Thx!
Thank you for this video. I found it highly informative. Many mysteries were cleared up for me.
Again, thank you.
This is awesome. Glad I went to your page from 6.5 guys. Great info, going to be sharing this one with my buddies.
Thanks! Glad to have you here.
@@Ultimatereloader I agree
Dude just straight nerded out on this ammo comparison... nice
Thanks for doing all the homework and sharing your information.
Very useful detail. I'm in the middle of a huge reloading progject for AR rifles, and my brass is completely mixed. This has given me a LOT to think about!
Just load em up
Got over 30 years experience with firearms (military, law enforcement, & F/A instructor), and now I actually understand the difference. Not a reloader but it was an interesting presentation. Plus I liked the additional points on the tracer rounds. Nice job and thanks.
I'm new, and want to make good purchases. Watching vids. AR or AK? I saw a couple vets with combat experience totally and equally make cases for both in the same video and both comfortable with their decisions. as non-combat vet, I have no clue. But when it matters I want to have the right equipment. Thanks brother.
@@ethoslogospathos Both are effective. It really depends on the purpose for the the rifle. I don't hunt anymore, so the larger caliber isn't necessary. Generally, my intent is home defense and range time. Between the two, I prefer the AR, it's a reliable and easy to shoot accurately, easy to maintain, and ammo is decently priced. Most importantly, my wife can also effectively handle it, which makes it extremely useful in potential home defense situations.
Thank you so much for the tutorial!. Really good video.
Great explanation of the difference in these two rounds
Thank u Gavin; you are the best teacher a student could have.
Exceptional information that is very much appreciated. thank you.
Supersonic + Ubersonic = Subersonic xD
Great video! Very well done.
Outstanding presentation. I am an instructor (50 years & a reloader & military retired) excellent training film.
Exceptional preparation and presentation. This was very informative and helpful. Thank you very much.
Wonderfully done! well researched, interesting and entertaining! Thank you!
As a novice to this model, I truly appreciate this knowledge! Thanks for the info!
I recall shooting green tip ammo in the late 80's and we never considered it as "Armor Piecing" during the debates over banning such ammo however I had some 9mm steel core and 30;06 black tip solid steel armor piecing that was not good for the bore but could go through one inch T1 steel plates at 100 yards , that was real armor piecing. Depleted uranium is the mother of armor piecing .
I shoot M855 green tip through my rifle, it's considered armor piercing and I have noticed more damage to targets with those rounds.
piercing, not piecing
@@brycefrazier8173 ahh yes the grammar police have arrived I thank you for your service
@@brycefrazier8173 get a life
It's a good video you cleared up a few misconceptions I had.
This was a great explanation !! so cool
Everyone saying "this was pointless they're basically the same", you absolutely missed the point of the video lmao
Both rounds are exactly the same,only different.
It was never even an issue untill recently. The 5.56 was the military designation for the Remington .233. i owned an old Mini 14(the one with the wood handguard) and fired thousands of 5.56 ammo with no issues. It seems the difference is 5.56NATO is loaded to mil spec and .223 is SAAMI spec.
@Slow Flight Thank you Sir!
@@joerobo682 I have mini 14 ranch and shot both .223 and 5.56. I had fte on 5.56 and no fte on .223. Both had same grains.
Verry well said safety first. I have been reloading over 40 years with no accidents that's because Dad taught me to be safe when reloading ammo.dont reload when when u don't feel good or don't have time.be careful and be safe 🤔
Thanks for the footage my friend 😁👍
Great video. One other item to consider is the tolerances accepted with .223 and 5.56 ammo. The 5.56 chamber allows for operation with ammunition loaded to the loosest tolerances. Run a couple hundred rounds of nato 5.56 over a chronograph and you will see the standard deviation is much higher than the commercial .223 ammo. This is because the tolerances are wider for the 5.56 load.
That would also make scence to me as ex army .
do you mean to say that 5.56 has more misses on targets than 0.223? trying to understand your comment. Use 5.56 or 0.223 in an AR? new to the conversation and looking to make purchases for what's coming. Thanks
@@ethoslogospathos 5.56 is just less consistent. For most shooting you will never know the difference. The only time I have a noticeable difference is when shooting through a really accurate rifle or shooting over the chronograph. The average ar with a 5.56 chamber will shoot under 3 moa with any ammo. Cheap 5.56 ammo will be within that standard as well.
Assuming you want to have a decent supply for personal use and possibly bartering, I would buy as much as you can afford at the cheapest price possible... Whatever that may be.
Steel case stuff is fine if your rifle will function with it, just make sure to try it before you buy a bunch. It also may be less desirable in a bartering world since other folks rifles may not function with it.
Thank you so much! Clear and very useful information. 👍😃
5’3” girl vs 5’4” girl? Who cares get one of each.
SoCal Longie found the Mormon lol
more like 5'3" and 5'3.25"
Girls don't explode. Mistakenly loaded ammo does (5.56 ammo in .223 rifle). Of course .223 Wylde handles both.
I prefer my girls between 5'7 and 5'9.
@@wangjingze1367 uh correction.... You can't make a girl explode.... I can 😉
Thank you for that very informative and useful disambiguation of an often misconstrued situation 🙏
Well done and informative video. Thank you for your effort in putting this together
Thanks for such a great video
Learned a ton
Much appreciated
Thanks Bill, glad you found it helpful!
its the end of august in 2020 and am pretty jelly of the amount of ammo this guys has.
If that's all he has he's not doing it right
It’s brass, next time pay attention.
riiiight i cant find 8mm mauser to save my life that isnt steel core
Then don't look in my safe.
@@NibNa5ty then just use the ap rounds lol.
This video was great! Not a waste of time , straight to it. And has my knowledge satisfied on this simple topic. facts. I just subscribed and will checking on more of your videos.
Good info and professionally presented. Thank you.