#68 Champion Dual Fuel 4500 Watt Inverter Generator. Unboxing, setup, and review. Best RV generator?
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- čas přidán 4. 07. 2024
- Looking for the best dual fuel generator for your RV or camper? Or maybe a versatile portable back up generator? Today I unboxed, setup, and tested the Champion 4500 watt dual fuel generator by @Champion Power Equipment. It will run on gasoline or LP propane. I plan to use it for camping with my RV travel trailer. I don't plan to use gas. Instead, I think traveling with propane bottles will be better; less likely to spill than gasoline and won't smell. Check out my first impressions and review. This is not an all-inclusive test and review, just my opinion after the initial unboxing and trial. Is this the best generator for camping? Overall, I really think I'm going to be happy with this propane generator. I purchased mine on Amazon. See the link below.
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JUNK! Stay away from Champion!!!!!
*A quiet **Generater.Systems** , love the dual fuel capabilities, camper is 50 amp but the adapter helps and found it still handles the load. Haven't taken a camping trip yet, that's in a couple of weeks. Will see how well it does over a long weekend.*
All depends what you want to run. You’d generally want one capable of 220v for a house. I would ask an electrician. Thanks for watching!
I run this same 4500watt dual fuel gen after my last Yamaha decided to take a shit on me!!! I have over 3200 hours on it and it still runs like a champ and starts up 1st try everytime no issues at all
I have that exact generator and use it for camping as you do. The only problem I've had with it is a small amount of oil leak. I run it on propane and it will use much of a 20 lb bottle over a 3-4 day trip using it only for air conditioning and perhaps 3 hrs per day, since most of the time we are outside doing activities, fishing, etc. I usually run it from around 7-10pm, which is when quiet hours start at most camp grounds. It is nosier than I would like. The oil cap on mine was cross-threaded, so I ordered a brass one from Amazon. It has a probe that goes down into the oil tank to attract any metal shavings. Even at age 78, I'm able to lift it into my truck, but I do have a set of ramps that I can use if I need to.
Hi Max. Thanks for your comments. Good to know I may still be able to lift it in 20+ years! 😄
We just received ours today! We used your video as a guide, which was very much appreciated! Hooked it up to a propane bottle and it fired right up! Very Happy - Thank You!!!👍😎👍
Very nice! Thank you!
So glad I found your channel and review.
Mine just arrived I unboxed it and wow because I found you I am confident I can do this!! Thank you!!!
Happy camping and blessings😊
Thanks Linda. Good luck, and happy camping to you! -Ed
Thank you for the review. Just bought one, as you confirmed it is a decent generator.
Just bought this exact genny based on this video. Thanks for the insight and covering every single aspect that I was curious about. Much appreciated!
Great! I’m very happy with it. Thanks for watching!
Most outstanding video. Thank you for helping me get started with my new Champion 4650 Inverter Generator. Of course now I wish I had purchased a dual fuel!
I just got mine today! So far I am impressed of how quiet it is. I got it to power 2 smaller freezers in the event of power outages and also camping trips. Thanks for the video and I will be checking out more after I subscribe.
Congrats! I’ve been super happy with it. Thanks for watching. -Ed
This is amazing review of generator. You could start a channel on its own reviewing generators. By far best review I have seen on any generator.
Thanks for watching, and for your kind comments. -Ed
Hi Ed! Thanks for giving such a thorough review of the generator. I’m impressed with the design and that they include all the tools you need and exactly the right amount of oil. The oil drain hose is nice too. Well done and thanks for sharing!
Thank you, Martin. Much appreciated!
You are my "goto guy" for my Kubota. I recently learned about Champion generators and wanted to learn more. I was glad to see that you did a video on one. I already have Generac, Honda, and a crappy Honeywell HW2000i, and I am pretty impressed with what I have learned thus far about Champion. They seem to have good support and parts availability. I like the dual-fuel models which avoid the risk of old gasoline damaging the carb. due to the use of propane. Thank you for your videos. I used your advice and re-fabricated the loader clamp on receiver for my Kubota. It works great. Ron
Thank you, Ron! This is my 2nd champion generator. I have been happy with them.
You are very welcome. I adapted the front mount screw on the hitch receiver for my Kubota B2301 loader. I' m a retired police officer. But, did a lot of maintenance and repairs and wiring of the police station and cruisers. I have a stick welder and a Lincoln MIG. My neighbor is a professional welder and is teaching me. My weld beads are almost as good as yours.
Thank you for the vid! I got my generator today, followed your instructions, super clear.
Great! I still love it.
Good review. Just picked one up on Amazon for less than $700. Mine will be used for emergencies (hurricanes) and to supplement my solar generator when there is overcast. I'm going to test some gas and propane for 5 hours and change the oil today. Seems to be a decent inverter generator. I'll still hold onto my 20 year old B&S beast that has a THD of
Great video. You show actual actual usage of appliances and power.
Thank you!
Thanks, watching from Central, Texas
Love the milk crate idea never even thought of that. I’ll be using it for sure.
Really appreciate the review. I have an older Honda 3000 inverter. I think I'm going to add the generator and your video to my collection
Thanks Chris. I used it for the first time camping a few weeks ago. Really pleased with it! Hard to beat that Honda 3000, but the extra watts are nice to have. Not to mention the dual fuel capability.
Thank you for sharing this presentation, by far one of the best. I never thought about using the milk crate for keeping the propane tank from tipping, like why didn't I think of that...great video, Thank you !!
Thank you for your kind comments. Glad you enjoyed the video. -Ed
I was debating between this and the Predator for camping.
The propane alone gives the Champion an edge, since I've already got three LP tanks on the camper.
This is my next purchase!
Thank you for such an informative video!
Thank you!
I was looking at these at Menards today. Thanks for the video. This appears to be exactly what I need for my small camper(2016 Rockwood Mini Lite 2109s).
Thank you for this video! I was looking hard at this exact same generator and now I have it ordered!
I hope you’re as pleased as I am! 👍
Great video Ed. Concerning gasoline vs propane: gas has an energy content of about 120k BTU’s and propane about 84k giving gas more kick.
I enjoyed this. Thanks, Eric
Thanks Eric. Much appreciated. -Ed
Great review! Our family is going to try the 4650 and run a TV too. We will see how that goes. Thank you for a great review!
Thank you. I'm sure that will work out great! -Ed
Great review, thank for sharing.
Nice review Ed…I went with the RV ready champion 3400 inverter for our Jay Flight. I love the remote FOB for starting it and shutting it off while you’re in the camper. This one definitely has some improvements over mine.
Thanks Mike. I was really torn between dual fuel vs remote start. That fob would be nice!
Will 3400 run everything in a 30 ft camper with 2 ac units??
Great video sir, my church bought me the 4650 Champion I haven't even taken it out of the box yet but today ifall goes well I will and get it prepared thank you itwas very helpful.
Thanks so much, Bishop!
Really enjoyed this video. I'm glad you took the time to do a real practical usage video as opposed to a simple unboxing and startup. As it relates to the difference in power between the gasoline and propane, that's because gasoline is more dense from an energy perspective than propane for the same quantity of fuel. I recently purchased one of these generators as well and expecting delivery soon.
Thank you for your kind comments AND for the LP vs gasoline lesson. Obviously I’ve barely used it, but I’m definitely impressed. Enjoy!
I keep my fuel tank full of TRUFUEL ethanol free fuel and run it a few minutes after propane. A video of a guy who never ran anything but propane in his and the carb got rusted up and couldnt run it on gas. So maybe just as a preventative approach. I called champion and they said no issue running on propane with the fuel tank full.
Much appreciated. I’ve actually run some ethanol free fuel through it and have some in there now. Like my large backup generator, I’ll run this one every month or so to keep it from tarnishing. Thanks for watching. -Ed
I think that something else is going on if the carb rusted up from running only propane. I grew up in the 80s and we had a Case model D tractor built in the 40s that ran on propane. We only used it in the spring and summer, and my dad never had a problem with that tractor. All he ever did to it was change the oil.
Could have rusted from drawing high moisture air through the Carb, the carb is still in play even though not running gasoline as the butterfly and choke on the carb regulate the flow of propane in conjunction with the Garetson regulator. Although usually most carbs don’t have anything in them that will rust i.e. brass and aluminum.
After a break in I would invest in amsoil 10w40 synthetic 4 stroke engine oil or other high quality synthetic.. these units are expensive.. protect your investment..
@@mysticjedi6730 Agree thats all l use.
Very well done. I just looked at one today. I think you've sold me on this one. Good job.
Thank you. I’m still very happy with it. 👍
@@MyClutteredGarage awesome. Thank you
great video, just bought this for our crazy weather here in North TX and our unreliable power grid, thanks!
Nice! I’m still very happy with it!
Grid is fine in TX. It's the PUC members who don't even live in the state calling the shots.
Just bought this on a great sale from Amazon and love your review and setup. I agree it is heavy but the handle really helps. I’ve been using a 3/4” plywood ramp but am seriously thinking about buying the harbor freight hinged ramps for my pickup. With the $500 off on the generator, I can spend the $150 for the ramps. They fit well in the bed and will allow me to easily get it in and out of pickup and will allow me to get an electric bike up there when I decide to get one. I love that it can run my camper a/c and electrical when needed. Thanks again. Very thorough video (might want to clamp that plywood down on the sawhorses next time though. Lol)
Thanks so much for your kind comments! 😄
Lauri, may I ask what price u got it for? Thinking of putting this on my black Friday or prime day shopping list!
$750. At the time when I was looking, Amazon was at $1200 for the 4500 watt dual fuel one so when they discounted by $500 felt like a good deal.
Hi Sir, I just got the similar 4650/3650 201080 dual fuel model. The choke mode, as per the user guide, is not for starting the generator. One simply pushes the button while the dial is selected to choke for 2-3 seconds and then you move the dial to run mode, depress the button and it then starts/runs. I am very impressed with this unit!! I went to town and got a gentent for it as well because the power doesnt go out on nice warm sunny days with no wind. In terms of sound +3dBs doubles the power of the noise so a few dBs can be significant, however concur these units are quite acceptable for noise (test baby kept on sleeping). :-)
Alex, have you had the opportunity to try out the gentent in windy and rainy conditions yet? Thanks.
Thanks bud, think I've made my decision, gonna follow suit, cuz of the propane feature
Useful tips:
Starting the generator first, then flipping on the main breaker to feed the load is important because it will preserve a lot of appliances. When a generator is turning over to start, the frequency and voltage are out of tolerances, which can slowly damage voltage regulators, sensitive electronics, motor windings, etc. in many electrical appliances. In addition, it is equally crucial to turn main breaker off before shutting the generator off.
Propane fuel does not cause prolong storage problems for carburetors, but gasoline does. I use Stabil fuel stabilizer along with Archoil fuel treatment for storing any gasoline engines. It’s also a good idea to plug up the exhaust to keep moisture out of the engine, in case one of the exhaust valves are open.
Great points!
Can you just start up the generator then plug everything in?
Gracias muy buena reseña aunque mi idioma nativo es español fue muy gratificante ver cada paso como poner a funcionar el inverter generator...GRACiAS
Good review keep it up you just talked me into buying one picking it up today 💪🏾💯
Thanks for your kind comment. Enjoy! -Ed
Great video. I think this is the one I need to buy. Thanks
Thanks, Mark. I'm still very happy with it. I recently went camping and boondocked in parking lots at night. I used gas in it and it ran my camper air conditioner for over 7 hours on a single tank.
Yay! Thanks for publishing today, Ed. Watching later tonight. :)
I just ordered one of these from Amazon with delivery expected in a month or two . perfect timing! We just went 5 days without power at our home so i ordered this generator that i can use hopefully occasionally and use propane at least at the beginning of an outage since gasoline goes bad pretty quickly . Having the option of running either gas or propane is great.
The inverter supplies power that is as clean as home power and the genny is QUIET compared to an open frame model.
Very nice video that covers all the important topics
Thanks very much. I must have gotten lucky, because mine was delivered in less than 2 weeks. I appreciate your kind comments. -Ed
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As it turned out, my generator was delivered inly two weeks after I ordered it. Haven't fired it up yet aa I want all the proper supplies for breaking it in. Champion does not provide an actual detailed procedure so between what I have gotten from tech support and articles and videos I will soon spend a day going overboard to do the break in.
Just ordered one 👍
Great video!
Good choice you bought the champ Duel fuel 4500. I have a Predator 3500 that would trip when I use both A/C and microwave. I should have done more research.
I’m sorry to hear that, but good to know. Thank you for sharing.
Excellent video 😎
Thanks very much!
Well done!
Thank you, Mike!
If you live in the gulf coast area you know the need for a good healthy generator . My little piece of advice for approaching storms would be to save any emptied milk countainers for making gallon ice jugs . Also eat the frozen foods while you have the opportunity.
I picked up a Champion 90014 open frame inverter generator. It has the same running watts as this model.
Because it is open frame and doesn’t have electric start it is only 79lbs instead of 103lbs. It is also dual fuel but only is 3 DB louder than the enclosed model which I think is negligible. The weight shedding is more worth it in my opinion. Plus it’s easier to access for maintenance tasks. Pull start is super easy.
Champion makes nice generators so you cannot go wrong either way.
I used it a lot while camping last week. I love this thing!
Great video. Thanks!
Thanks Duncan. Much appreciated. -Ed
This was a great review for me. I am looking for a generator to run my trailer. I have the exact trailer that is in this video. It seems quiter then I was expecting. Thank you for video.
Thanks, David. I’ve been very impressed and happy with Champion products.
@@MyClutteredGarage I ended up going with the westinghouse 4500dfc. A few reasons :1 when shutting down the fuel in the carburetor is used up. 2 it comes with a battery charger so I don't have to use a battery tender. 3 remote start. If it gets hot in the middle of night, I don't have to go outside to start it up.
@@davidroberts677 I do wish the propane champion had remote start! The gas model does.
Nice little generator Ed, noise level is pretty good 👍🏻. I like the fact it’s dual fuel 👍🏻. Have a great week 🙂🙋🏼♂️👍🏻
Hey Ed, I have the model made before this one--a little less capacity, but basically the same thing. Anyway, I replaced the start battery with a Shorai LFX14A4-BS12 lithium battery. Now I never have to trickle charge it and it starts right up, even after months of sitting. Just thought I'd let folks know that a lithium start battery is an excellent upgrade! PS, that pull-start was impossible for me. Maybe I'm too weak ;)
I had that same generator and sold it with my last camper. I tried to buy it back before buying this one. I really liked it a lot. Even though this one puts out a little more juice, I was completely happy with the other one.
I bought the Champion 3500 dual fuel as I can (barely) lift it into the truck bed. Never have used gas in it. Runs an ac fine.
Thanks for the review! Decided to order 2. Dual fuel IMO is the way to go. Received the Parallel kit now waiting on the Gens. I plan on putting in a 50 amp connection at my homes panel. No more sitting in the dark and plenty of power while boondocking!!!
Very nice, Bryan! I have no experience using the parallel kits but that sounds awesome. Thanks for watching! -Ed
Great vid Ed. Concerning gas vs propane. Gas has an energy content of about 116k of BTU’s while propane only has about 84k, giving gas more kick over propane.
Thank you, Robert! That makes sense!
Thank you for the very good review. Amazon has these for $1360. Which was about $500 more than I wanted to spend. But I liked that is fairly quiet. So maybe its worth it.
Thank you. You don’t need it to run on propane, the gas-only model is very quiet too.
@@MyClutteredGarage ah! Thank you again. Good information
@@Bergarita Home Depot sells them for $300.00 less than Amazon.
@@BonnieBlue2A I know that now. I recently bought one! Thanks :)
Excellent Review.2/25/2022
Thank you, Frank. Much appreciated. -Ed
Thanks..Great video
Glad you liked it!
Thanks pops
Nice addition for your camping trips Ed!
Thank you!!!
Good tip putting the propane tank in milk crate, should make it a lot less likely to tip when transporting.
Really informative video
Thanks very much!
Good video
So they talked you into posting it
Those dual fuel generators are nice
I give in too easy 😄
I have the slightly larger 4650 version of this unit. I found that carrying a fuel can and loading the generator empty saved a few pounds. Still, taking it off the tailgate and turning to put it down seemed like more than my 50-something back should be doing. I use loading ramps.
Nice Review
Thank you, Ken! -Ed
I keep my generator on a lawn mower frame. Easy to push and back up to a dirt bank and load it in the truck
A good Video...
Pop!! Ohhh! My back!!😂😂😂😂 I’ll continue this video at a later date! 😅
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Good evening ED, I will look it tomorrow ( going to bed right now !!! ) Cheers
thank you so much for this informative video. one question. what if i dont remove those brackets from underneath? how will that affect the generator?
Thanks for watching. I’d say it would vibrate pretty violently if you left those brackets in place.
Thanks for sharing this video. I would enjoy seeing you using this unit when you go camping. Nice job. New sub.
Thank you. I’m actually camping this weekend and it’s working great! Not making any video this weekend but I’m very happy with it. I’m camping locally so I’m burning gas this trip. Thanks for watching! -Ed
Thanks for the video. Very useful. Did you consider getting two of the 2000 watt generators? Those would have been 40 lbs each and maybe easier to manage, than 100 lbs all by itself.
Good idea. I’d be concerned that two would burn more fuel than one, and the noise level would be higher. Great point though! Thanks for watching. -Ed
Sold! Put one in the basket today!
You won’t be disappointed!
You should follow the manufacturer's break in procedure. There are various takes on this, which may be better, one way is to inject some oil in the spark plug hole, reinstall spark plug, run 60 minutes without load, change the oil, use some oil conditioner. Restart, and vary the load up to 1/2 capacity and run with and without ECO mode to vary RPM for several hours. Change the oil again and it should be ready to use.
Great one Ed. Super high production value and super informative...don't look now but your experience is showing! Couldn't agree more on the milk crates, been using them for years.
Honestly, it might have been the perfect CZcams video, but, you know...those short "E's"... 😉🤣
Thanks Chris. Yeah, I echo your thoughts on it being *_almost_* the perfect youtube video. :)
Well played sir, well played...😎
Even with the exchange and picking it up at the border this will be a good buy. Now I just need a reason to buy it! Good job Ed. Cheers Mark
Thanks, Mark. Do you REALLY need a reason to buy a back up generator? 😄
@@MyClutteredGarage according to my finance department as Tim would say.
I was thinking about buying one of these for a backup at my house only because my grandpa always had a generator in his garage and used it a few times during storm power outages. Wouldn’t wanna power my whole house but would be nice to plug in freezer or stove
It would be great for any 110v appliances. 👍
Hey there. I appreciate your videos!
I bought this generator a month ago. My propane quick connect seems to have a very weak connection that leaks. Almost like it doesn't fit properly. I've searched this and many rv'ers have the same issue. Would it be too much to ask for a quick video close up on your connection operation? The other large question is if it will switch to gasoline automatically once the propane runs out?
Great videos and I also purchased a Kubota based on these vids also ;)
Thank you for your kind comments. Can you follow my page on Facebook and send a message? If do I may be able to send a video clip for you.
When he talked to Siri my phone responded to it. 😅 thats freaky. Anyway, Good video 👍
We must sound alike! 🤣
Wow your strong 💪 Ed! That a nice generator. I have the 2800 watt Champion generator. I’ve never had a problem with it. I think it’s been 4-5 years now. I like that you can run it on propane. Thanks for sharing your milk crate propane tank holder 👍idea. See you on the next one 😁👍
Thanks Mitch. I don’t like to show off my incredible strength, but I do it for the good of channel. 🤣
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FYI, Champion doesnt provide a detailed break in procedure for this genny. I have contacted tech support and the most theyve told me plus what little is in the manual is that you should break in with the supplied 10-W30 oil for 5 hours with the option of running a full synthetic 5W-30 oil after that. Breaking in using eco mode is OK with Champion.
MY process is going to be -
Squirt a little Lucas Oil Conditioner into the cylinder after pulling the spark plug.
Fill with 10-W30 (including a little Lucas conditioner) and cap with a magnetic dipstick.
10 slow pulls on the pull start before replacing spark plug to prevent a dry start.
Run for one hour on eco mode with a 100-200 watt load.
Change oil, fill with regular 10W-30, run for one hour with eco mode OFF and a small load under 500 watts.
Change oil again, run with eco mode on for one hour at 500 watts, a second hour at 1000 watts, alternating with eco mode on and off, run a third hour with a 1500 to 3000 watts with eco mode on and off.
Change oil and fill with full synthetic 5W-30 oil.
That’s quite a break-in process!
this thing is looking solid as far as features. Just bought a Honda lol
You won’t regret that!
Very nice generator! I agree propane is probably the way to go on a generator due to the crappy ethanol gas these days. That stuff will mess up a small engine in no time if left sitting for very long. Oh my you just about lost thing off the horses 🤦♂️! If I needed a generator I’d probably most definitely get one of these, I like it!
Great review of this generator! Thank you for sharing. I didn’t realize Champion made a dual fuel generator and I’m impressed with this Champion. I think you made a great choice!
Thanks very much. Happy so far!
Just got this baby
Nice! Hope you love it as much as I do!
Nice generator. I’m going to have to look into Champion when I replace my old generac.
I’m definitely pleased. Hoping for long term durability. My 12kw backup generator is a Generac. It’s a beast but works great.
Champion has this generator in a open case that is much lighter, but not as quite. The tank on the open is much larger too.
You can definitely save some money if you don’t need it as quiet. I wouldn’t recommend an open frame generator for public camping. Thanks for watching.
Open frame vs insulated inverter generator are apples and oranges
I just bought one of these and did the break in process on it. It's to bad the duel fuel doesn't get the remote start that's a neat feature to have as well. I wonder if it can be easily added or if it's built into the inverter block itself
That would be nice indeed!
I know while in the military we were not allowed to use electronics or even key a mic around diesel or JP8 fuel. It could cause an explosion. It may be the reason but I really don't know.
In regards to gas verses propane, if I have it full of gas and want to use propane instead, does it default to propane if it’s hooked up? Thanks in advance!
I can’t confirm but I think it defaults to propane (since that line is pressurized). Sorry I don’t know the answer.
Would you please tell me where should I get that extension cord for that generator thank you
I bought this extension cord. Thanks for watching. amzn.to/3iHJ6oT
Great video. Any idea of they also ship
to the UK?
Thank you. I have no idea though. I'd check to see if there is a Champion UK website.
My 30 amp RV has a 15k btu Coleman Mach A/C. I want this generator to run my A/C and 12v fridge for at least 12 hrs if there is a power outage. Will this work?
I’m no expert, but considering that this ran my 13.5k AC and the microwave at the same time, with room to spare, I’d say it would run it just fine. Thanks for watching. -Ed
Any long term update on this Generator? I have had several Champion generators and have had zero issues with them and am considering the 4500w inverter next.
It has only been used moderately, but it works great every time!
Can you use the campfire while it's on?
If the tank has gasoline in it & also hooked to propane which fuel becomes the default ?
Is there a switch to go between the 2 fuels ?
I think it’s just magic. I think it’s odd that there is no switch to choose the fuel. I don’t know the answer, but I’m thinking that propane would be the default fuel, since it is pressurized.
The propane burns cleaner and I would think the oil wouldn't need to be changed as often
Great video 👍👌
Thank you, Mike!