Andrew Flintoff 'There's no such thing as team spirit' - Flintoff, Savage and the Ping Pong Guy

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  • čas přidán 15. 02. 2017
  • Former England cricket captain Andrew 'Freddie' Flintoff tells Robbie Savage and Matthew Syed there's 'no such thing as team spirit' when discussing the ongoing form of Leicester City.
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Komentáře • 35

  • @TheBarnem13
    @TheBarnem13 Před 7 lety +36

    Freddie as usualy the case is spot on!

  • @Ese96Agoaye
    @Ese96Agoaye Před 7 lety +80

    Flintoff may actually be onto something. When the team wins, "team spirit" isn't even mentioned. You'll realise that "team spirit" is only mentioned when a team isn't winning.

    • @mazincool555
      @mazincool555 Před 6 lety +1

      Yeah they do mention team spirit when a team is winning. When Leicester won the league it's all people spoke about how they were together as a team ...

  • @gokulpadmalochan18
    @gokulpadmalochan18 Před 3 lety

    Brilliantly said. When the chips are down that's when team spirit matters. That's the test of person mental strength and his character on how to truly bounce back from those failure and hardships.

    • @dharminacharya
      @dharminacharya Před rokem

      I think that is the responseblity of leader to create environment that team stays together when have tough time or they lose

  • @adi87tya86
    @adi87tya86 Před 6 lety +15

    Cricket and football are very different sports. Cricket is a team sport but played by individuals, and individual performances are very important and can win you games especially in Test cricket regardless how the team spirit is. Whereas in football, which is more of a team sport, team spirit is very important.

  • @binzy698
    @binzy698 Před 5 lety +2

    Freddie showing how much thought he put into his cricket here

  • @darshanabamunuarachchi5666

    Freddy is absolutely spot-on !!! I played cricket 25 yes from school to club cricket... I understand what he said very well !!!

  • @gokulpadmalochan18
    @gokulpadmalochan18 Před 3 lety +1

    I think Flintoff really talks in a practical way and doesn't brag too much about himself. Doesn't exaggerate or show off like Shoaib Akhtar.

  • @underwaterbubbles
    @underwaterbubbles Před 7 lety

    In the top teams every player is playing for his own place, to make money on different aspects of the game. To score a goal or an assist brings in extra money. It is success they want for themselves. Because sooner or later they will be off to a better club and yet more money.

  • @mohammedomar4652
    @mohammedomar4652 Před rokem

    fred is bang on the money. in sport and in life ......that is the case

  • @capio78
    @capio78 Před 6 lety +2

    I love Freddie and as always he makes his point in a way you want to agree with him, but his attitude is why he was a terrible skipper.

  • @KhanivoreQniba
    @KhanivoreQniba Před 6 lety +1

    Freddie is exactly on point. When doing poorly the team evaporates.

  • @Hardysamnin
    @Hardysamnin Před 6 lety +1

    He also says the Earth is flat, so I'd take his opinion with a pinch of salt.

  • @ryanwebb5082
    @ryanwebb5082 Před 7 lety +12

    I really cannot fathom how Robbie Savage can actually say - esp with that tone of voice - that Flintoff was a poor captain without context. Flintoff was made Capt cos Vaughan (England's greatest capt?) was injured, Tres went off the tour at the last min, and Simon Jones was injured. Add to that Harmison was terrible for reasons out of Flintoff's control.
    Vaughan was quality in 2002 Oz tour and Flintoff had to essentially three roles within that team. Batting @ 6, bowling first change over, and then the massive task of captaining.
    Savage done sweet F.A in his career compared to Freddie - he has no right to mock him. Btw, i get that i might come across as a snowflake but Savage is soooo annoying.

    • @OfficialTWSandco
      @OfficialTWSandco Před 7 lety +3

      you're absolutely right with the facts but I don't think Robbie was being serious - if you watch other stuff, they both give it to other people, its just banter.

    • @olliebrown9574
      @olliebrown9574 Před 6 lety

      Think it was a little bit of banter Ryan Pleb - lighten up son.

  • @sunny.theone.5555
    @sunny.theone.5555 Před 6 lety

    I appreciate freds opinion.He's been there done that.Ive played cricket in 3 different centuries(nothing spacial) .but at even club level the English have the wrong attitude .The nets,friendly games.Most English school or club players know what cricket is.

    • @e.e121
      @e.e121 Před 3 lety

      How the fuck did you play cricket in the 19th century? Old as shit

  • @KryptonitetoallBS
    @KryptonitetoallBS Před 7 lety +7

    Interesting point. Nonsense, but never the less interesting.
    Leicester City went from rock bottom in 2014-2015 to escape from relegation. Their team spirit was awesome.
    Now whether that team spirit came from good management, winning games as Fred says, team building exercises or whatever they had it. Last season when they got relegated, Villa didn't!!!

    • @barky87
      @barky87 Před 7 lety

      same "team spirit" got their manager sacked when the team purposely underperformied, which, is actually freddies point

    • @KryptonitetoallBS
      @KryptonitetoallBS Před 7 lety

      dcd87 LFC :- NO it didn't. At least part of the reason they were poor last season was they had LOST their team spirit. So it wasn't the SAME team spirit. Same team, different spirit if you get my drift :-)

    • @barky87
      @barky87 Před 7 lety +2

      And they just so happened to lose that team spirit just as they started losing games...just like freddie said. Shocker! :0

    • @KryptonitetoallBS
      @KryptonitetoallBS Před 7 lety +1

      Explain how Burnley stayed in the EPL this season then? Most of their players wouldn't get a game in other EPL sides and yet they managed to stay up. OH.......and they lost more games than they won!!!

  • @ezeztztz
    @ezeztztz Před 5 lety +4

    Absolute bollocks from Flintoff,no such thing as team spirit,but then he says only when ur winning is team spirit great,well yeah,maybe teams that don't win is because they have no team spirit,to say there's no such thing is absolute utter nonsense

  • @KhanivoreQniba
    @KhanivoreQniba Před 6 lety

    Only Vardy is decent at Leicester, every other striker is useless.

  • @hiphoplover9292
    @hiphoplover9292 Před 5 lety

    That's the reason England could not win a world cup

  • @matthewcliffe2687
    @matthewcliffe2687 Před 7 lety +4

    Team spirit is 100% a factor. I have played football with 6/7 different teams so far and I have experienced team spirit in tough situations however this is only with a couple of teams so I think Freddie may just have played with cunts when he was losing