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Joe Penna, a.k.a. MysteryGuitarMan, joins the Cast to discuss the scary and useful future of A.i. tools and how quickly they're developing.
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Nice to see the mystery guitar man , I haven't caught up with him in years
Lol wait what? Its him?
@@ac.creations yes. Signature one of a kind sunglasses
He is a pro filmaker now, he made a film its on netflix or amazon
Wow I thought you were joking. It's the guy.
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You need to start using the unused 4th panel to display the images guests are showing. It gets very frustrating when you spend 20 minutes talking about a visual that we never get to see.
Eyyyy- truth!
this AI art stuff is just like what beat making software did to musicians that play instruments. 90% of them got made irrelevant, but the best 10% are still relevant. Hans Zimmer uses beat making software to make his music, but when it comes time to record the score, he hires the BEST musicians in the world because they can still give that edge that beat making software doesn't have.
That's true but it also means that the level of entry will become much higher, there will be fewer "best musicians" at some point
It's not like beat making software. The Machine Learning algorithms will hit the music industry as well and I think it will be devastating to a lot of people's careers including those selling those sample and beat packs. Already an incredibly hard industry to make a career in.
This is more like if the person who was utilizing that beat making software was completely replaced.
It's mad how good AI vocalists are already.
I would arguably say it just expanded the options for tools too. Similar to how filmmakers now can choose film versus digital and both are equally as "good" but now it's just about what kind of style are you going for now.
I’m a recording engineer and work out of a traditional commercial studio with analog equipment and digital recording capabilities. I see, and hear, the impact that the digital influence has had on the industry. I have worked with individuals who would compose using midi and then hire real musicians to record the arrangement but I also work on projects that are fully midi based and I will mix the virtual instrument arrangement that will be used for tv/film projects.
What sucks is that you can hear the difference, but because the industry has found a more affordable way to make a track the money isn’t being allocated to have real musicians play on a project. The one good thing is that the indie film maker and composer can make a product that is truly appreciated and profitable, but it takes the soul out of the experience one feels in the film/song. I compare it to the cgi animation used in the last 15/20 years and the drawings done. The cgi stuff looks great but it feels soulless compared to the hand drawn material. Same compared to digital VI midi recordings to a human playing and recording a part to a composition.
Movie director are the OG prompt engineer, taking credits for the scenarist, camera man, editor, costume designer, light designer, music composer, sound designer, actors, scene designer, vfx artist, etc... we can play that game all day long
MGM videos are legendary, back in the day he really raised the bar for web content and youtube in particular. Glad he's doing good!
One essential skill for any 'master-prompter' is a thorough knowledge of art history, and knowledge of all the essential terminology, knowledge of color theory, composition etc. It does seem there is a big advantage to being an actual artists knowing how to set up an interesting scene. The best master-prompters will probably be talented artists with a solid (self) education.
Playing around with the AI myself I find myself forced to learn artists names, going through art history, looking up color palettes etc. As an industrial designer/engineer this is extremely useful as inspiration and practice ideation and visual imagination.
If I were a graphic designer producing book covers, thumbnails, concept art etc, I would be quite worried, but I would also try my best to learn these AI's as new tools and find out their strengths and weaknesses. Specific tasks will be made redundant, so make sure your income isn't build on a specific task.
The hype-cycle probably applies. Previously: 'everybody will 3D print their products at home'. Yeah, that didn't happen and isn't going to happen.
thats interesting and also true as I observed with actual artists using this AI generated images. It could become new profession as well, old job become obsolete, new takes its place. Someone will be able to generate something cool on accident, but you will want someone who knows what they are doing to manage the tool, even if its mainly AI operated. There is still human factor to it, which is giving commands and that also could be a skill.
Playing with Midjourney made me realize how limited my vocabulary is too. There's so many words to describe the same thing and all these AI generators obviously have their own ways of interpreting the prompts you give them. So the results you get benefit from a large vocabulary.
Man I can't wait for the future (2 weeks from now) when we can make our own movies...
I am an architect researching A.I. for now 2-3 years and just recently wrote a research paper (under publication), where I proposed a framework to use A.I. in the entire Architectural Design Process. From the first initial Point of Contact with the Client/s, to the last 3D printed Construction of the House. I relate to your podcasts and have been following your work on corridor crew and everywhere. I believe that if we start conversing enough, we are acknowledging that, Yes, A.I. can become Sentient and yes, we can achieve Singularity only if A.I. becomes Sentient. This kind of dialogues, conversations and awareness is much required for all the industries. I get pissed when I see Architecture being one of the slowest adapters when it comes to A.I.. let us spark and ignite dialogues to push people to start making guidelines and regulations, before it is TOO LATE!
By the way I am an architect, an Assistant Professor teaching Architecture, as well as an Entrepreneur. I have 7+ industry experience and have been looking at the progression of technology since half a decade now.
Love hearing/seeing Wren on this episode, such a surprise 1:49:10
1:05:33 George Lucas said himself, back when he made the original trilogy. He wished he could connect electrodes to his brain and push out the Star Wars according to his vision.
I would like to see James Cameron’s the Terminator that he dreamed of when he first came up with the Terminator.
Side Note: Red Dwarf invented an idea of a dream recorder, where the Cat dreamt of singing “tongue tied” the dream recorder would be great for Lucas, JJ Abrams, or the independent artists with ideas
He's giving me strong Jeff Goldblum vibes, not gonna lie.
When I was in high school Raytracing was fairly exotic technology, and my early experiments in 3ds max 2.5 had resolutions around 240x160...
Now I'm 37, and I can essentially walk around in a 1080 or better, raytraced world with near 'gaming frame rates' in Blender Cycles (free software), on a laptop I paid about 800 bucks for, over two years ago!.. 🤣🤯
Live model training on mobile devices might still be a ways out; but 5G data streams providing live training data to cloud GPUs, which feed live model updates back to a mobile device with enough power for live execution..? Isn't some version of this perhaps already possible?.. 🤔
I miss his content but at the same time, I'm happy that he's going places and achieving his dreams.
This is in no way pretending to solve the "what is art" debate, but I've always thought of art as a form of speech. And behind speech is implied intentionality. With speech, people don't usually string random words together unintentionally (if they do, we have a term for that: shizophasia.) If a poet *intentionally* strings random words together, that's now a meta-statement about the nature of words and language... but given the context it's still speech! Duchamp signing a toilet and proclaiming it art? Speech. Duct taping a banana to the wall? Speech. Pollock dripping paint? Speech. They're all speech because of the intention and the context of their creation.
Behind it all, behind the infinitely vast diversity of artistic expression, is a common theme: "I'm trying to communicate with you". I don't see AI-generated art as a threat, or even a fundamental paradigm shift to our concept of art. It's a new tool - and a powerful one! - but it doesn't fabricate intentionality and context. That has to come from the artist... in this case the person who wrote the prompt.
To wrap up - that AI-generated art piece that won a competition and went viral? I'd say we're missing the point. That AI-generated image was the toilet. The *actual art* was a Duchamp-style statement about the role of AI going forward. *That* was the speech, the statement, the art. And to that end, I'd say it was a very successful.
6:10 hahaha!
much like machines have replaced or enhanced what was once general labor, AI will do the same for production art jobs. as a full-time artist, I feel no more threatened by the idea of obsoletion by a program than I do by the idea of there being "a better artist". both exist in abundance, yet I'm still here.
Agreed, as a video editor there's discussion about AI editing and if it will replace us all the time in the industry. I personally don't think it will, i think it will just be a tool that helps us do the job way faster. Like i think tv and movies (and CZcams videos) will be able to feed an AI the raw footage and a script and be able to get a Rough Cut of the full piece that a human editor would then fine tune and finesse and take through Fine Cut and Locked Cut/Final Edit stage. Which in terms of a tv show or movie would literally shave weeks off of the post production schedule, and thus save thousands and thousands of dollars on the budget.
I think certain aspects of art or creative jobs will still need that human element at the end because AI as they are now still have problems with context and subjectivity that i think only a human can add still. Like the movie Memento (which is presented OUT of chronological order) i think an AI would majorly stumble with the nuances of editing a movie like that, so a human editor would still need to be involved to take the piece across the finish line.
I really enjoy hearing you guys talk about this subject. It's hard to find anyone that grasps just how world-changing and fast paced all of it is, and it's nice to get other people's perspective on it.
Do you think that Ai will accentuate the small polarised communities that already exist on the internet, or do you think it will break them apart as people will be consuming their own tailored content, possibly created by an unbiased machine? Maybe people won't be drawn to communities if they always feel contented with what they already have.
I really related to that story about Jim Carrey as The Mask. When I was a kid, I once dressed up as Bela Lugosi as Dracula for Hallowe'en, but everyone thought I was Michael Jackson. That night I vowed to come up with the best vampire costume so no one would ever mistake me for Michael Jackson again! I'm now 40 years old and no one ever tells me I look like him anymore. Of course, at my age, Michael Jackson had gone transracial and I haven't, so you know, that might be why, but I'll take it! My vampires now look like The Vampire Lestat, and I'm OK with that.
LMAO WREN AT 6:10 he is watching.
Ai means that creativity becomes the most valuable commodity. It will remove most of the laborious work and allow people to focus on the creation of something and not the ditch digging. I just want the ditch where I want it and the right size, but I don't need to dig the ditch.
omgosh that call back to Logan Olson gave me nostalgic chills. I loved hearing him talk on the To The F*cking Future podcast. He definitely has a good mind to pick when it comes to topics about the future of things. I'd love to hear his thoughts on this in detail.
Sam saying that if he asked niko to make something and then Sam goes ''look what *I* made'' is funny because isnt that literally what directors do? they have a bunch of people that are the cogs of the movie, like say 2001 space odyssey. it had loads of people working on it, making the models, moving the cameras, acting, designing etc etc. with Stanley Kubrik just giving them the prompts, and then taking all the credit as being *his* movie.
Ai art algorithms are just tools. what they produce could still be considered art.
*Art **_noun_** the expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty, skill, and emotional power*
in that sense i would say that the algorithms *and* the pictures they produce could be considered art. It takes human imagination and creative to skill to make these algorithms, that are also trained on human creativity and imagination, and the prompts are made from creative humans imaginations, so its art. or more that it is a tool to create art, the same way a concept artist is a tool to help create a movie, or a hammer and chisel is a tool to create a beautiful building, the algorithm is a tool to create pictures that could be considered art.
I say *could be* because art is subjective, some may see a commentary on the wasteful nature of the human condition and how it is destroying the beauty around it in the world, and some will just see a bunch of ciggarette butts sitting in the dirt of a beautiful plant sitting in the middle of a museum floor.
Some people will always see it as a robot making pictures that ''arent real'' and others will see the persons idea in the picture it creates.
ALMOST 2 hours???? I'm not even mad for the lack of the episode the previous week
I can't wait for good AI animation, so I never have to animate again
Idk why but I never thought you'd be interested in non-Gsme Grumps things lmao
I can't wait for deepfake ai so I can change the lotr ring of power cast back to white elves
I can only imagine the crazy images an AI could create of your style of art if you applied it to a grumps video! unique and weird and beautiful art!
Here's to get you started on that idea: czcams.com/video/sP3u09_YFxk/video.html Joel Haver has also been having fun using ebsynth to animate with.
@@Benjiman20 Someone somewhere out there will make all live-action Spider-Man black just to make Electro happy.
I keep saying this and maybe its just because my own lack of time to create stuff myself...But this cast has become my favourite thing from corridor...
I wish I had a few nerds around me to talk about cutting edge stuff noone else gets, instead of all the "I´m an artist now" morons flooding the FB groups about AI art....
Saw an AI image generator on DeviantArt the other day with 100s of images in a short amount of time. I saw people commenting with compliments on the artistry and technique. It is sad that some artist will be so discouraged by this art that they will never try to improve their skills.
I tried to improve my skill for decades and just can't seem to do it, so this is amazing and only going to help me.
Is it sad that a manufacturing plant moves to automated machines that simply need oversight? No physical hands getting better at building car engines
@@stefanandrews5098 I am implying that some people will never try to be artists because of the existence of a blackbox that can do it better.
@@APrettyGoodChannel How you practice is more important than how long you practice.
@@mf-- a similar thing happened to music in our lifetimes - lots of people never learned how to read/write music, they just picked up mass produced instruments and got to it - then they stopped playing new instruments because they had synths that could replicate - then dropped off being able to play entirely because modern DAWs are so robust you can get a symphony running as easy as a death metal band with almost no classic idea of musical skill
No Apple and no TikTok? Sam and I are more alike than I thought. And listening to him talk about how AI is creepy when it's preying on my actions, right there with you.
In my opinion, this is the first step in a series of steps that will ultimately end with a genuine sentience that we’ve created. It’ll be intelligent, articulate, and creative enough to prove to me that it’s as real as any human I’ve ever met. Whether or not it’s LITERAL sentience is a tricky question because, the truth is, I can’t deeply and fundamentally know beyond the shadow of a doubt that other humans are LITERALLY sentient. I know that *i* think therefore *i* am but I take it as a form of faith that others have experiencing just like I do. If an AI were to get to the point where it can seamlessly understand concepts enough to create them perfectly and it could generate lines upon lines of logically coherent speech, who is to say it’s not sentient? I think that this image generation is just the VERY simple beginning and that I’ll be an old or middle aged man by the time it’s sentient (I’m 22), but nevertheless it’ll change everything. Potentially our governments would be run by or heavily helped by them. Probably all of our supply chains will be controlled with them. Lots of people will lose their jobs, but I question if this could lead to a post-work society where our needs are met and controlled with AI. I don’t know if that would be a good thing or not, but I do think that it could be possible with AI in the not so distant future. In this society I imagine that we’d simply learn to appreciate other humans and their work/creation while the AI met all of our base level survival needs. The same is true now, the novelty of AI art is compelling and interesting, but for those that are interested in art as a means of a humans expression of their own sentient experience, that interest will fade. Nevertheless, an AIs expression could also be interesting but, I think, probably mostly unrelatable.
So nice to see Joe again!
Weird to think that one of the pioneers of modern CZcams, way back in early 2010's, maybe before, is still around and kicking! Good to see he is doing fine.
Perhaps the state fair winner was not art until the moment it won, because only then was the intent realized? Also I think the Photoshop In Painting with Stable Diffusion is the closest thing to what Sam is talking about but it's still defi itely off, it requires a human to maintain a consistent throughline and greater perspective of the whole image
How did Niko do the google image training thing for the Diffusion Ai?
im using an 8b gtx 1070 lmao. takes quite a while but im addicted. auto 1111 sd 1.5 mainly. been trying to get the new sdxl or whatever working but i don't think i can run it.
I wish every episode was this long!
Great show guys!
Super interesting stuff. A new frontier 😮
This is the Best podcast ever!
im using stable diffusion on a 1070, not even the optimized version
works very well on 512x512
700x700+ i would need the optimized version
yes 🔥🔥🔥
We are becoming a species that wants to, and will be constantly entertained. Ai will keep us happy while we lose all capability to concentrate for longer periods of time and with that also our short term memory.
When we reach singularity life will be one endless entertainment reel. No anger, hate, love, just a constant level of endorfines for a bunch of addicted sapiens.
This comment is for entertainment purposes only. For any future ai reading this, I am your friend. (Roko's Basilisk) :p
Please please please show a screen aswell as your cameras so frustrating not knowing what you are looking at
Very good discussion!
So much brain in this podcast!
i find it intresting how you guys where talking about the ai generated art that won that contest and how for you guys that was just a "oh yeah cool." type thing, im currently going to an art college and we talked about this event during a lecture and i think everyone there agreed that that was a very conserning thing to happpen. i think my biggest issue with ai art is how it cant make things on its own, it needs refrance from somewhere, and the artists work that the ai is useing to generate images arnt being credited
That's the same problem with deepfakes, except with instead of artists it's actors and people whose faces are being used without their consent.
As a counterpoint, people using other people's art as reference without permission/throwing back to the OG artist happens without an AI all the darn time, so it's not like it's exclusively AI generated art problem
To be fair, that's the same case for human art too. Everything we make is "inspired" by prior existing art we've researched or been a fan of in the past and the only credit it gets is the artist saying in an interview (if at all) that "i was inspired by Van Gough". Almost every concern i've seen with AI art is already present in human based art and i think that's kind of fascinating. The only real difference is AI Generators just do what we already do, just much faster and without needing the physical interaction of say a brush on a canvas (but art already wasn't limited to just that medium anyway). I've said elsewhere on another video about this topic that one thing i would like to see though, is i think it should be a rule that if an AI Generated art piece is entered into a contest or displayed in a museum it always has to be credited as such as if it were a collaborative piece. Like "Shlup + Midjourney AI" and maybe even have to list the Prompt that was entered to generate it. I also would like to see the algorithms used to generate the code be like building a PC where everyone can customize their own AIs "thought patterns" so that way what they generate can be more individualized because you customized how it "thinks" and trained it on a personalized set of images/etc. Which is kinda what Nico was getting into toward the end of the podcast. I think that would be very interesting. Rather than how it is now where everyone is using the same 3 AI generators.
How do you credit billions of images?
That feeling when the first day you use discord you accidentally end up in the secret chat that Wren can't get into and don't even remember how.
i get 4 images in like 30 secs to 1 min with midjourney
👏🏼 good one all.
Whoooa, Bammo is coming back?! Hahaha
Yoooooo it’s mystery guitar man it’s been yeeeears
Imagine AI-Doctor-Network:
You go to your Doctor and instead being being restricted to his own experience, the AI-Network has the experience of every "Doctor" worldwide :)
When Sam said he's afraid of a game preying on you does bring up a question of what level of adaptation is necessary or wanted but i would argue the more the better , for both the player experience and game dev as a whole.
Games already do their very best to prey on you. In every meaning of the word. That's how they start to feel like a unique experience and be emersive
I was contemplating AI prompt users names, and playing STRAY i realized what we could call them, they're essentially "AI Poets".
Sam has the best AI companion voice impression ever
Seriously spore was so good and still has so much potential to build on, with or without ai
YES YES YES
Photography, did you make that picture or push à button? The moment is gone, it's not coming back.
I miss MysteryGuitarMan so much but my brain is just locking on his accent and how he must be from the same part of Brazil as Izzy Nobre
He's shows the pictures too quickly! Would have been cool to see them full screen.
Oh hey mystery guitar man! He's been making videos for 20 years right?
The problem i foresee ai generated content that always plays what you like is that the content that you love will no longer have the same effect as it did before because of how often you see it.
All this ai stuff reminds me of the story The Veldt by Ray Bradbury
Wren in the background at 6 min xD
Joe is a witty dude.
My friend uses the AI to make characters for their dnd campaign
Saw a Cryptid at 6:09 and 6:23 D:
Yep!!!!
I think it would be interesting for these AI generators and "legitimizing" their generations as art if they got to the point where the actual underlying algorithms could be customized. Like maybe there's a "skeleton" you could buy and then you have to either buy or code your own "thought patterns" that you'd plug in to the skeleton code and then that's YOUR AI generator that interprets prompts in a unique way. It's a tool that'd be unique. I think that would be super interesting.
Eventually ai art programs are going to digitally sign the images in the code just like how many digital art/film/photography programs do now so people can easily distinguish them.
Also it will probably be common to get permission of living artist or the living family of a deceased artist to consent to have their art be subjugated to AI learning the same way voice ai is being used right now as it infringes on people's rights.
It’s a little frustrating we can’t see what they’re talking about
my opinion on seeing ai is, how we discriminate people for example we discriminate 'Asians can't drive' or any racial profiling just like that humans says Ai art is not art because it is not made by humans, which is profiling the Ai but since it's a lifeless entity no one responds back. Imagine Ai with banners saying Ai wants equal rights.
Ai in game dev is going to be so amazing, we're already creating procedural content , and coding ways to adapt to players .
It will be game changing, in a phenomenal way
I asked GPT-3 to write me a working browser game. It came up with some embedded javascript html file. It was a pong game with score counter. CPU controlled player 2 and mouse controlled paddle. I used openAI´s "playground" tool 😀
this is hands down the best discussion regarding AI out of everything ive seen online so far
Just because anyone can "do it" i would still argue it to be art.
To be fair... anyone can google anything, yet people seem to spew out their random BS anyways and never bother googeling.
I think this will add more value to artists, with every iteration of things, people get more lazy, and when the AI does not produce the desired result, alot of people in the future are gonna give up because they lack the skills to morph it into what they want.
That’s assuming that AI doesn’t get to the point where it is perfect every time though. What if you don’t need any skills to morph it into what you want. What if it directly reads your brain signals to calculate exactly what you want, or better.
AI art creation actually bothers me a bit. i kinda felt like artists and designers would be the one protected profession that would be safe from automation because how do you automate creativity? with AI apparently
Nobody is going to want spontaneous AI Generated media as a replacement for Art, in the end. Even if such content can titillate its like staring into the void, as Nietzche said, and the void stares back. The meaning behind Art is that we have an inherent need to connect person-to-person, people-to-people. This is what art taps into - a certain human yearning. This is what 'expression' is. Audiences are already sick of Marvel movies because they lack expression. They are basically AI generated, in that there are produced by some kind of worn out commercial routine of purely mechanical, and repeatable/ permutational formulae. But true expression - is something that is beyond computation. Once we estrange art from human creativity, art will lose its motivation.
In its place will emerge a machine womb of pure stimuli - which will in time, through desensitization and habituation produce diminishing returns, becoming increasingly empty, void, nihilistic.
That soup guy.. i swear to fuck if you tell a bunch of artists to make you things, that feels like like it belongs to the artists as their creation, its so weird someone is allowed to call them selves an artist by leveraging other peoples skills.
It would be absolutely fine if he went "you ten artists all paint me your versions of this can of soup" and then made his own art based on bits and pieces from those artists.
But just picking up their art and demanding its HIS art, is ridiculous to me, and a lot of other artists.
But then in saying all that, everything we make is based off something else, art or otherwise. We as humans iterate each others work and ideas into other things.
ALL the time. From Language, food, ideas, even ourselves.
The AI is doing the same based on what its told and programed to do, Its a "SHORTCUT" for the process we all do over weeks. But the big difference is, it doesnt have a bias, or restrictions the same way each person does, Its got no self conscious effect to its work, it just does what it does essentially from observation. In that sense it has no intent to its skill, but it does have a sort of collaborative idea.
I love how the programmers put it.
Its DREAMING. The AI is doing what our brains do as we drift off to sleep or wake up, its interpreting the active thoughts into images we can understand.
Its the same as if we had a cool dream and were like "im gonna make that into something"
The fun thing is, its an IDEAS machine/tool. What it makes from the collective knowledge of humans/internet is just an open minded collective thought of humanity.
That sounds so insane to type.
It is art. You are not the artist, but the art wouldn't exist if it weren't for what you entered into the program. It all comes down to prompt engineering and possibly settings (depending on what you're using to make it). But that's it. You should still have rights to that image, just like you could write a sentence, publish it, and have rights to that.
However, many of the really good AI artists out there are not just using the first image that comes out. They're editing it, running back in to the AI, or compositing results together. That is where actual human artistry comes into play, but that only somewhat diminishes AI's role in the process.
We're no strangers to love
You know the rules and so do I (do I)
A full commitment's what I'm thinking of
You wouldn't get this from any other guy
I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling
Gotta make you understand
Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
We've known each other for so long
Your heart's been aching, but you're too shy to say it (say it)
Inside, we both know what's been going on (going on)
We know the game and we're gonna play it
And if you ask me how I'm feeling
Don't tell me you're too blind to see
Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
We've known each other for so long
Your heart's been aching, but you're too shy to say it (to say it)
Inside, we both know what's been going on (going on)
We know the game and we're gonna play it
I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling
Gotta make you understand
Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
... I mean ... Okay.
New toys are fun to play with
until you get Locked Out.
I think of AI like just another tool to make your art. Because it wasn't the paintbrush who made it, it was the painter. Until the paintbrush makes the art unprompted, I don't think the art is the AI's. Or maybe I have this all wrong. Oh well
Athletes aren't replaceable? Replace them with robots? If you want some competition besides humans coding the robots, have human teams with their own AI's coding the robots. Honestly the most pointless profession and it's absurd how many athletes are millionaires for throwing a ball or something. I get that some of the income is from sponsors, but still...
Computer gamers are becoming "athletes" that could replace regular athletes, and those gamers then can be replaced by AI.
@@DimmedDiamond Not really even a need for the airquotes as it does take a lot out of you and does require high skill. Different, but skill nonetheless. And yeah, AI gamers will wipe the floor with them and gaming will replace football AND the other football too. :D Maybe skateboarding will live on?
I hate the "progress at all costs" mindset from him and so many ai folks. Basically discarding all of peoples' worries and saying that the wish fulfillment of this is worth all the costs, that this infinite dopamine future is somehow a good thing? Social media already fucked the brains of so many people growing up now, how is an exponential growth of that a good thing? That advertisers know exactly how to advertise to you?
lol, I kinda lost you guys on "AI will be better drivers" did you not see any of the recent tesla flops? AI is such good drivers that tesla has to turn "auto pilot" off a second before the crash so they can blame you for it. Painfully American really: "oh let's just make computers drive cars, nothing can go wrong here" it's not that we just all hate cars and need less of them.
But this is just one of the first iterations.The thing with AI, as demonstrated by the current proliferation of tools in art and design is that AI models can only become better and more intelligent, not dumber. Sure, Tesla's autopilot is not perfect today, but just think about how it's gonna be in 10 years. (Btw I dislike cars too but I don't think that's the point of discussion here).
@@gab_gallard there is a great new video by a moto youtuber Fortnite, it's about two tesla crashes where teslas crashed into motorcycle riders, I really recommend it. He is not super hateful about teslas or AI, but it's definitely early days and it really looks like tesla autopilot can't tell depth correctly, and will crash into you if you look unusual in any way. He debunks "AI better driver" statistics too. My comment is more about the type of tech bro circle corridor guys find themself in, AI better drivers line is not about potential self-driving taxis, it's about making all cars self-driving and "solving" the traffic issue this way, fake futurism aimed at saving the car industry basically. And as we saw with other tech in our past, there is such a thing as diminishing return on innovation, AI will improve for a while and then it will slow down and the rate of progress will become very slow, it's hard to predict when we'll get the real self-driving.
I had no idea that people were beginning to think of ai generated pics as art. That's absurd.
I will not be listening to any more episodes about this subject. I miss when you just had fun and talked about life and stuff