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  • čas přidán 26. 09. 2023
  • THE ODD COUPLE - Chris Broussard & Rob Parker talk about the loser of the Damian Lillard trade, which is the Miami Heat, who thought they were in the driver's seat and instead got left behind.
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  • @josejr.garcia2228
    @josejr.garcia2228 Před 9 měsíci +51

    I’m glad this happened. I was always annoyed by teams that wanted a star but also didn’t want to give anyone of quality up.

    • @caleblawrence7105
      @caleblawrence7105 Před 9 měsíci +2

      Dame needed Miami we didn’t need him

    • @michaelryan9711
      @michaelryan9711 Před 9 měsíci +11

      @@caleblawrence7105lmao

    • @fitz27486
      @fitz27486 Před 9 měsíci +3

      Props to Milwaukee management and Portland management. Props to Dame for taking this opportunity. The only human being on the face of the earth who thinks this was a bad trade for the Bucks and Dame is Skip Bayless. That says it all.

    • @michaelpaullang4401
      @michaelpaullang4401 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Miami package was better

    • @raymelleonard3075
      @raymelleonard3075 Před 8 měsíci

      @@caleblawrence7105lmao after trading away half the roster yall cooked

  • @blaketindle4703
    @blaketindle4703 Před 9 měsíci +38

    Sports fans nationwide enjoying seeing the Heat fumble so damn hard lol

    • @o4tw382
      @o4tw382 Před 9 měsíci +5

      @@sladewestern6704 Jimmy right?

    • @bighou2359
      @bighou2359 Před 9 měsíci

      @@sladewestern6704 and what teammates did Dame have? Ever? Oh the Playoff fraud in CJ(Choke Job) McCollum.

    • @Frank-nz1wr
      @Frank-nz1wr Před 9 měsíci +3

      @@sladewestern6704coping hard ngl

    • @jrsmith1998
      @jrsmith1998 Před 9 měsíci +1

      I hate when the Heat. I love the Dolphins. Im from Orlando. And i really despise South Florida fans. The biggest fair whether fanbase in all of sports.

  • @bighou2359
    @bighou2359 Před 9 měsíci +31

    Portland was like, "Throw in another second round pick." Miami was like, "No, that might be our next Superstar."

    • @chasejordan8065
      @chasejordan8065 Před 8 měsíci

      Pat Riley ... Knows More Basketball... Than, Any One Of U

  • @willielominchar7290
    @willielominchar7290 Před 9 měsíci +11

    As a magic fan i love this cause it gives the small market teams more attention

  • @devjames2532
    @devjames2532 Před 9 měsíci +279

    Pat Riley tried to low-ball Portland for Dame and got pie on he's face. Yet Heat fans are really defending he's epic fumble

    • @reneesmith983
      @reneesmith983 Před 9 měsíci +23

      Portland didn't get alot though

    • @jbestderulo45
      @jbestderulo45 Před 9 měsíci +18

      His*

    • @Me3ks89
      @Me3ks89 Před 9 měsíci +78

      @@reneesmith983jr holiday alone is more than Tylier hero Lol

    • @postmastersgt1670
      @postmastersgt1670 Před 9 měsíci +29

      I cant defend it im pissed I want Pat Riley gone. He don't have the juice anymore and he not trying to win fr.

    • @papi-sauce
      @papi-sauce Před 9 měsíci +59

      worse, dame is on the eastern conference now, the heat lost a potential star and gained a hard opponent.

  • @averyforbes8834
    @averyforbes8834 Před 9 měsíci +64

    This offseason alone Miami lost out on Damian Lillard, Bradley Beal, Darius Saric, Christian Wood, Kelly Oubre, Max Struss, Gabe Vincent and they also had to salary dump Victor Oladipo.

    • @politicfrog
      @politicfrog Před 9 měsíci +1

      Off-season is not over they save some cash from Vincent and Struss and they add Thomas and JRich they will be agressively adding some key pieces now that Dame talks are done. And they keep Herro that will solidify his game even more this season. The Heat went to the finals without even the 20 pts scoring of Tyler and I think Caleb will have a breakout season average 18 ppg. The Heat will continue to play their game and Spo will find ways to win.

    • @atlien1988
      @atlien1988 Před 9 měsíci +9

      Kelly Oubre isn't some amazing pick up. He's decent at best.

    • @TheChrismasCow
      @TheChrismasCow Před 9 měsíci

      @@atlien1988exactly lol

    • @Big-Bearded-Alkebulanian-Man
      @Big-Bearded-Alkebulanian-Man Před 9 měsíci +5

      @@atlien1988 I agree, he’s decent at best in most scenarios… but Kelly Oubre is the type of player that would’ve played above his head & shined with The Heat

    • @drmontano9414
      @drmontano9414 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Oubre or zer defense Wood big deal big deal ugh😂

  • @axxelfoley3304
    @axxelfoley3304 Před 9 měsíci +22

    Miami tried to get Dame for hand full of beans

    • @atlien1988
      @atlien1988 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Portland got him for a bag full of beans 🤣

    • @carter7944
      @carter7944 Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@atlien1988milwaukees beans are still soo much better then human garbage tyler herro and duncan robinson throw those 2 useless players into the trash

  • @CaviarTee
    @CaviarTee Před 9 měsíci +12

    Pat trying to play the feel sorry for us hand and tried to low ball that ish 😂

  • @obosseymoore143
    @obosseymoore143 Před 9 měsíci +16

    Rob rolling up at the beginning of this clip 😂

    • @kordelsmith
      @kordelsmith Před 9 měsíci

      He acting like Kawhi lol what it do babeeeeee

  • @DEVILS_advocate05
    @DEVILS_advocate05 Před 9 měsíci +11

    The media is weird. They got mad when New York gave up a ton for Carmelo. Now they mad the heats didn’t want to give up the team for dame. Smh.

    • @ivanirizarry9421
      @ivanirizarry9421 Před 9 měsíci +2

      Melo was going to go there in free agency. Dame is signed to a max, not the same

    • @DEVILS_advocate05
      @DEVILS_advocate05 Před 9 měsíci

      @@ivanirizarry9421 you don’t know anything

  • @oloxyea
    @oloxyea Před 9 měsíci +70

    He went to the only situation that would give him a chance to win. Everybody won.

  • @Lymbe06
    @Lymbe06 Před 9 měsíci +14

    I had a CZcams fight with a Miami fan a couple of months back (I’m a European Bucks fan). It was after they lost to the Nuggets and I was telling him how this Heat team overachieved so much but he denied it. He thought it was normal for a team to go from 32%/33% in 3s in the regular season to almost 50% in the playoffs (right before the finals). While shooting high volume. He thought it was normal for a play-in team to upset the No1 team. He thought it was normal for undrafted guys to play at an all star level until they won the East.
    And now they wouldn’t even include Caleb Martin along Herro, an *undrafted* player so they could get a bona fire superstar.
    It’s their entire organization and fan base thinking like that, it’s not just Pat Riley. I hope they disintegrate this year.

    • @neilbuckeye3809
      @neilbuckeye3809 Před 9 měsíci +2

      Not only all of that, but they barely squeaked by in the play in. They just got hot at the right time. The Celtics almost came back from 3-0 without a HC and no resemblance of an offense 😆

    • @ericdarden1255
      @ericdarden1255 Před 9 měsíci +2

      Sir! The Heat has been in the finals 2 of 4 years... They not overachievers, they handworker's! but they need another piece... Dame would have made them the favorites because Boston will underachieve again, and the Bucks would have underachieved.

    • @Lymbe06
      @Lymbe06 Před 9 měsíci

      @@ericdarden1255 2 out of 4 years when nobody expected them to. The second time they were insanely lucky that everything clicked for a month and then it was back to factory settings. They don't just "need a piece" they need another star. The fact that they wouldn't give up Caleb Martin alongside Herro says they know they were super lucky an undrafted player performed in that level and this can't happen always. On the other hand, they wouldn't even give up an undrafted player for Lillard. That means their front office is at the very least deluded.

    • @Robcbiz
      @Robcbiz Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@Lymbe06yup

    • @jamaledwards4755
      @jamaledwards4755 Před 9 měsíci

      @@ericdarden1255 stop it. The Heat overachieved. Boston almost came back on them. They were overmatched by Denver. Pat Riley blew this deal.

  • @je5406
    @je5406 Před 9 měsíci +41

    Today is a W for all NBA fans.

  • @lil8494
    @lil8494 Před 9 měsíci +14

    Let's all take a moment a laugh at heat fans 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @brandonnufer3670
    @brandonnufer3670 Před 9 měsíci +56

    As a life long Blazer fan ( and life has been rough as a Blazer fan). i will be rooting for the Bucks to win the Championship. Even if the blazers play the bucks then imma root for the Bucks cus Dame deserves that for at least one year. After this year then Imma go for the Blazers. I love Dame and I am happy to see him on a good team. Imma just say this, Milwaukee fans.... take care of our Dame time. You gotta special guy thats gunna give you everything. Go get that ring Lillard

    • @santiagoskywalker
      @santiagoskywalker Před 9 měsíci +4

      respect

    • @jonathanvega5350
      @jonathanvega5350 Před 9 měsíci +3

      Fanboy. Stay loyal. I bet you cheat on your gf

    • @jdocean1
      @jdocean1 Před 9 měsíci +13

      Dude you have to root for your team period.

    • @brandonnufer3670
      @brandonnufer3670 Před 9 měsíci

      @@jonathanvega5350 life long bro ... get real... gtfoh

    • @FedEx-Ty
      @FedEx-Ty Před 9 měsíci +5

      There's nothing wrong with having a favorite team you probably grew up watching and still having love and respect for the NBA and it's players regardless of what team they play for. I don't see anything wrong with this

  • @dentonyoung4314
    @dentonyoung4314 Před 9 měsíci +11

    Portland, Phoenix and Milwaukee all get an A for this trade.
    Miami gets an F minus for how they handled things.

  • @KLTChannel
    @KLTChannel Před 9 měsíci +4

    There was nothing Miami could have done. They didnt have the assets to offer b/c Portland didn't value Herro. Portland got a lot more in that trade than what Miamj could give. This wasn't arrogance. If you give up everything for one dude and then you have three guys surrounded by bottom feeders - you'll lose.

  • @tjr2312
    @tjr2312 Před 9 měsíci +19

    I really don’t think people understand how terrible the heats package was from a scheme perspective lol. This package is by far so much better

    • @carter7944
      @carter7944 Před 9 měsíci

      Too many guards plus nobody wants human garbage tyler herro or human garbage duncan robinson

    • @Lymbe06
      @Lymbe06 Před 9 měsíci

      Tyler Herro and some picks lol.

    • @tjr2312
      @tjr2312 Před 9 měsíci

      @@Lymbe06 lol like people really think that’s a good deal 🤣

    • @Lymbe06
      @Lymbe06 Před 9 měsíci +4

      @@tjr2312 everybody knew it wasn't a good deal but ol' Pat thought he had Portland by the balls. He thought wrong lol.

    • @moniemakinmitch5743
      @moniemakinmitch5743 Před 9 měsíci

      And can you explain how jrue holiday was good fit scheme wise?

  • @christophervelasquez2063
    @christophervelasquez2063 Před 9 měsíci +27

    This is crazy, this Milwaukee thing came out of no where lol! This season going to be fun to watch, Lakers revamped and reloaded, Suns looking like they going to be an offensive juggernaut, Milwaukee now, Boston, this is going to be great

    • @Amanda.Nikole
      @Amanda.Nikole Před 9 měsíci +4

      Lol Bucks did come out of left field like "Hi Dame"

    • @christophervelasquez2063
      @christophervelasquez2063 Před 9 měsíci

      @fieldmarshalp9456 Celtics and any team LBJ is on lol

    • @LPjunemark
      @LPjunemark Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@christophervelasquez2063they both suck haha

    • @chasejordan8065
      @chasejordan8065 Před 8 měsíci

      Pat Riley ... Knows More Basketball... Than, Any One Of U

  • @derrickj127
    @derrickj127 Před 9 měsíci +7

    Respect. Blazers still did right by Lillard in the end, even though it wasn't his preferred destination

  • @jasonrobbins4001
    @jasonrobbins4001 Před 9 měsíci +76

    My thoughts are the heat probably thought there was a possibility they could get Giannis this following offseason. So they were fake trying to get Dame. But now their plan backfired in the face. Now Miami actually loses twice in a trade that they weren't even part of. It's very laughable. The two people that they have highlighted are now together in Milwaukee.

    • @Roadrunner0077
      @Roadrunner0077 Před 9 měsíci +2

      no they didnt wanna trade tyler herro

    • @jasonrobbins4001
      @jasonrobbins4001 Před 9 měsíci +5

      @@Roadrunner0077 I don't know why you think that it is so obvious to anybody that comprehends who Pat Riley is he don't like Tyler Hero and he would trade him as soon as he got a decent offer.

    • @thetarheel2010j
      @thetarheel2010j Před 9 měsíci +5

      @@Roadrunner0077that’s not true, Portland didn’t want Herro so Miami needed to get another team involved to take Herro

    • @julioinfanteramos6535
      @julioinfanteramos6535 Před 9 měsíci

      Heat will be laughing back to the ECF. Now, is that what they really want? No, but everyone is saying Heat lost out. They will be making moves in the middle of the season. They're going to hope their young players' stock rise up and trade them later on. They're still a top 5 team in the east

    • @PelicansCourtsideClub
      @PelicansCourtsideClub Před 9 měsíci +2

      They dropped 2 starters specifically to get Dame, and Herro has been on the block for over 2 years, with not even a sniff.

  • @lyriktehuti
    @lyriktehuti Před 9 měsíci +6

    Miami allowed HUGE parts of last year’s run go for nothing. There is zero chance they win the East.

    • @JordanLamont-hg6xq
      @JordanLamont-hg6xq Před 9 měsíci +1

      They Had Zero Chance To Win The East Last Yr… Games Are Decided Between The Lines!

    • @sirwavydude5435
      @sirwavydude5435 Před 9 měsíci +1

      You're right They won't be higher than
      6th. They don't have enough, those undrafted guys they always talk about will get everyones attention the whole year, I think they all take a step back next year

    • @mauricemoton1069
      @mauricemoton1069 Před 9 měsíci

      @@JordanLamont-hg6xqExactly. That’s why they play the games. To see who is the better team 👍

  • @o4tw382
    @o4tw382 Před 9 měsíci +18

    Everyone but Heat fans realized that Jimmy Butler is a number 2, not a 1 during this finals. He ran from the pressure and deferred to undrafted players. Even bench players, he was giving the rock up during clutch moments and at the end turned the ball over and took a horrendous three.
    Miami Heat fell victim to ego and arrogance. When Dame said he wanted to be in Miami. The organization felt as though they were entitled to him and tried to lowball Portland. Even stopping trade talks, thinking that Portland would become desperate. Pat Riley dropped the ball once again with this.

    • @tyronegrant3422
      @tyronegrant3422 Před 9 měsíci

      If that’s a number 2 then whose a number 1?

    • @o4tw382
      @o4tw382 Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@tyronegrant3422 y’all don’t have one at the moment. Jimmy is forced to be the 1. We seen he can’t stand the pressure this finals. That experience will help him though, I doubt he wants to be embarrassed like that again.

    • @thehoboman
      @thehoboman Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@o4tw382 you are spot on with this take

    • @gmailgmail6234
      @gmailgmail6234 Před 9 měsíci

      He is not no number two lmao dame is a number two why you think Jimmy has had more success lol yall swear if someone has a flashy game they a number one option

    • @gmailgmail6234
      @gmailgmail6234 Před 9 měsíci

      @@o4tw382but dame is a number one? He couldn’t take the pressure in the 2nd round against the pelicans lol Jimmy can make it to the finals but y’all saying dame better

  • @tae5257
    @tae5257 Před 9 měsíci +17

    Smh Miami heat must of really felt like he was almost guaranteed to go there this why you can’t put all your eggs in one basket

  • @lyndonchastain3181
    @lyndonchastain3181 Před 9 měsíci +45

    They better hope Jovic comes close to Jokic because Pat refused to put him in trade talks

    • @joes.2647
      @joes.2647 Před 9 měsíci +4

      That’s insane if true

    • @lyndonchastain3181
      @lyndonchastain3181 Před 9 měsíci +1

      ⁠@@joes.2647 Woj pretty much said he only put Duncan Robinson, Tyler Herro and a bunch of picks on the table

    • @atlien1988
      @atlien1988 Před 9 měsíci +2

      ​@@lyndonchastain3181that's really not that bad considering what Portland got in return 😂

    • @lyndonchastain3181
      @lyndonchastain3181 Před 9 měsíci +13

      @@atlien1988 I’m no Ayton fan but he shits all over Herro. They will get a lot for flipping Jrue too

    • @Shpankyy
      @Shpankyy Před 9 měsíci

      Ayton was In the deal regardless. Herro Duncan 3 picks is better than what bucks gave them@@lyndonchastain3181

  • @thehoboman
    @thehoboman Před 9 měsíci +2

    Dame to Miami was always a fantastical pipe dream, they never had the assets to get him.

  • @localone1597
    @localone1597 Před 9 měsíci +3

    I never bought into the Heat last year. They barely made the playoffs for a reason. When the playoffs started they were playing over their heads. When they finally went up against a real team with a great player and a bunch of solid players, they came back down to earth, and got exposed.

  • @exposingthetruth5188
    @exposingthetruth5188 Před 9 měsíci +13

    Miami just didn't have enough leverage to make that trade

    • @takethat863
      @takethat863 Před 9 měsíci

      I agree Miami didn't have enough assets to give Portland Miami don't have to feel to bad there still a decent team that went to the finals I wanted my 76ers to get dame but not at the expense of giving up Tyrese maxey dame is 33 and starting to get injured I want young up and coming talent

    • @chasejordan8065
      @chasejordan8065 Před 8 měsíci

      Pat Riley ... Knows More Basketball... Than, Any One Of U

  • @soysaucehairdye7869
    @soysaucehairdye7869 Před 9 měsíci +51

    I'm happy for Giannis. Screw Miami and their beautiful women.

  • @9729CBailey
    @9729CBailey Před 9 měsíci +11

    Im usually always pro player!!! Is it wrong imma kinda proud of Portland on this one?!

  • @cotati76
    @cotati76 Před 9 měsíci +2

    No team should feel obligated to send a player under contract to the team of their choice. It puts the team in an impossible position where the team knows they can lowball you and still get what they want. I like him as a player and fellow Bay Area native but I’m sick of it. Don’t sign contracts if you have no intention in fulfilling them. This phenomenon will eventually backfire and future players will be the ones to suffer.

    • @Matt-cr4vv
      @Matt-cr4vv Před 8 měsíci

      No obligation to trade a player to their preferred destination, especially if doing so comes with a lesser than deal in a trade. But I don’t think it’s a bad thing if a team tries to make something work for a player who’s done right with the organization up that point of the compensation is at or around the best you can obtain. I could get with a team making taking a slightly lesser than option for a player they’re doing right by but definitely not a good move to take a bad deal just to appease somebody.

  • @Jonnie_b
    @Jonnie_b Před 9 měsíci +7

    It's about to be a problem..lol😅 Dame just needs to stay healthy and play basketball and let everything fall in place.
    Hope they can orchestrate this team to compete amongst the top teams. By the middle of the season.

  • @forrealforreal8723
    @forrealforreal8723 Před 9 měsíci +1

    People forget that 4 of the starting 5 from that championship team made the all stars in 2006 so it’s not like they were average players

  • @dwoodstwin
    @dwoodstwin Před 9 měsíci +2

    Pat Riley knows a few things about being a GM. Miami didn’t want to do what the Mavs did and trade away a good team for one player. What good is having Dame if the team is terrible after you trade away too much?

    • @JimBrave-ri1oc
      @JimBrave-ri1oc Před 9 měsíci

      Mavs traded 1 player named Finney Smith who averages 2 ppg. Miami drafts 2nd rounders and also undrafted players that average 15-20 every season even their rookie years..

    • @dwoodstwin
      @dwoodstwin Před 9 měsíci

      @@JimBrave-ri1oc Pat Riley knows what he’s doing. More than people on tv. More than randoms on the internet. I’m sure he had his reasons

  • @FlyHy89
    @FlyHy89 Před 9 měsíci +2

    😂😂I swear everybody was talking like Jimmy was the second coming of Jordan

  • @McGomezAddams
    @McGomezAddams Před 9 měsíci +7

    Pat Riley really thinks he's The Godfather 😂

  • @lilhyena7534
    @lilhyena7534 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Riley isn't crazy to give up everything for Dame 😂

  • @derekbrousard9287
    @derekbrousard9287 Před 9 měsíci +6

    Lillard might have a great chance to get a ring now that he dont have to go through his daddy curry to get to the championship.

  • @WildlifeGuy
    @WildlifeGuy Před 9 měsíci +23

    With all do respect to you Chris and Rob..
    Both of your were hating on Miami the whole playoff run last season, so your opinion doesn't really mean anything to us Heat Fam..GO HEAT NATION

    • @soda8736
      @soda8736 Před 9 měsíci +2

      I agree and im no Heat fan

    • @rickyrobby8133
      @rickyrobby8133 Před 9 měsíci +3

      Brou said that run probably made Jimmy Butler a Hall of Famer.

    • @iaiirjordani13
      @iaiirjordani13 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Y’all are finished Heat fans!!

    • @PelicansCourtsideClub
      @PelicansCourtsideClub Před 9 měsíci

      If jt doesnt mean anything, then why u still watching, clown?

  • @poppahoggg2587
    @poppahoggg2587 Před 9 měsíci +6

    Rob and Chris need to practice what they Preach!! Go do your research!!

  • @bartier861
    @bartier861 Před 9 měsíci +2

    PHI gets Jrue Holiday
    POR gets Tobias Harris, Jaden Springer, a 2029 first round pick(unprotected) and several second round picks via PHI

  • @whatudoin1
    @whatudoin1 Před 9 měsíci +7

    The heat played themselves. They thought they would get him for cheap or just sit and hope for Giannis to demand a trade next year. Jokes on them... But now these bucks are a problem. Can't wait to see who can take them out

    • @badxx8764
      @badxx8764 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Buck's are one injured player away from losing to Boston, heat,or 76ers,..nba is unpredictable.

    • @jaydot4956
      @jaydot4956 Před 9 měsíci

      @@badxx8764you can literally say the same thing about every team. The point is if Boston and Milwaukee are healthy the heat don’t stand a chance against either team. Miami tried to be cute and low ball the blazers and it backfired on them.

    • @chasejordan8065
      @chasejordan8065 Před 8 měsíci

      Pat Riley ... Knows More Basketball... Than, Any One Of U

  • @JUNNY923
    @JUNNY923 Před 9 měsíci +7

    Pit Riley's cockiness got the better of him

    • @papi-sauce
      @papi-sauce Před 9 měsíci +1

      he actually tho he was the godfather haha

  • @kaseemsmith4918
    @kaseemsmith4918 Před 9 měsíci +1

    It makes sense that Miami didn’t gut their team for lillard when you see what the bucks gave up

  • @drmontano9414
    @drmontano9414 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I hope Spo will make it work and taking notes championships arent built on EGO. Pat Riley should’ve watched Paul Westhead on Winning time.

  • @kellenking5108
    @kellenking5108 Před 8 měsíci +1

    How’s a guy who didn’t even play in the run last year be your top asset in a trade for dame dolla. Riley was buggin

  • @benjaminberman6200
    @benjaminberman6200 Před 9 měsíci +29

    There are certain teams whose decisions I don’t criticize until it is proven that it doesn’t work out:
    1. Miami
    2. San Antonio
    3. OKC
    (Boston, honorable mention)
    That’s the list. I will not go in on Pat Riley the basketball godfather for showing discipline and not overpaying (in his estimation) for Dame.
    It is possible that the presence of the third team, the suns, moving Ayton- that was new information that nobody, even including Milwaukee knew about.
    A soldier goes to war with the intelligence he has- if things change suddenly… you look bad. 👎

    • @gregorywillis8400
      @gregorywillis8400 Před 9 měsíci +10

      , they are finished.

    • @Watchingvideoslikeu
      @Watchingvideoslikeu Před 9 měsíci +6

      2 out of those 3 teams have never won a championship without a bonafide superstar player

    • @benjaminberman6200
      @benjaminberman6200 Před 9 měsíci

      @@Watchingvideoslikeu correct, but that doesn’t mean that I don’t trust them to make the best move possible to optimize their chances of winning. Jimmy Butler in the postseason is as much a superstar as any. They definitely need another go-to scoring option if/when he gets exhausted or injured (because it always happens). The “bonafide superstar” theory is a little bit of a misnomer. If you have a clear leading scorer and he wins a championship does that not make him “superstar” anyway. Do we crown too many “auperstars” in the reg. season who are impressive when the teams are bad and the defense quality is abysmal?
      Dame is a great shooter, defensive liability b/c of his size and a closer- the Heat don’t have great size to match up with a team like Boston who suddenly features a guy so tall he lives in his own area code (KP) I’m not saying I wouldn’t do a Lillard trade, but if you do- you have got to have the ability to “beef” up the front court, and I don’t think adding more assets to the pot for Dame would assist in that.

    • @PelicansCourtsideClub
      @PelicansCourtsideClub Před 9 měsíci

      When OKC traded Harden for Kevin Martin we all knew immediately it was a terrible deal. They dont have that kind of rep.

    • @revilloteoj1934
      @revilloteoj1934 Před 9 měsíci +1

      ​@@WatchingvideoslikeuAll 3 have never won without a superstar including San Antonio

  • @Mr.KyleRichey
    @Mr.KyleRichey Před 9 měsíci +2

    The 04 pistons are the best team I can think of that won without a major star player, not only did they win but they handled a stacked lakers roster, and I say that as a life long lakers fan, only time I’ve ever seen the “little engine that could” team beat the juggernaut, and they didn’t just beat them, they spanked em

    • @lymphomasurvive
      @lymphomasurvive Před 9 měsíci +6

      They had 5 All Stars. Rasheed had the talent of a superstar but never cared enough - he could have been remembered as one of the all time greats. The only reason they won was because Wallace was a mid season trade - he did his best to fit in.

  • @markula_4040
    @markula_4040 Před 9 měsíci +1

    People like to prop up the Heat and their run to the Finals but they fail to mention they finished 2-7 in their last 9 playoff games including 0-4 at home. They couldn't afford to stand Pat (pun intended) if they wanted to win a championship and now they have played themselves. They'll be lucky to win a round in this upcoming season's playoffs.

  • @coolpasta4778
    @coolpasta4778 Před 9 měsíci +1

    How are you going to bash Pat Riley for not winning a chip without a superstar and then literally explain that there have only been two teams all time that have won without a superstar? Not sure what the point of saying that Pat Riley hasn’t won without great players

  • @ishaq24722
    @ishaq24722 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Milwaukee instead of Miami? Damien was measuring his swimsuit and now is measuring his ski cap. Now, baring injuries, the Bucks will win the east and likely a championship.

  • @jayt2192
    @jayt2192 Před 9 měsíci +2

    As a Dallas fan this makes my day 🌞😂

    • @chasejordan8065
      @chasejordan8065 Před 8 měsíci

      Pat Riley ... Knows More Basketball... Than, Any One Of U

  • @atlien1988
    @atlien1988 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Milwaukee gave up a bag of chips. Don't nobody want Tyler Herro 💀🤣🤣🤣

  • @pjones8189
    @pjones8189 Před 9 měsíci +1

    The odd couple need their yt, and podcast.

  • @NewEarthSon
    @NewEarthSon Před 9 měsíci +1

    I do not get why people say 2004 Pistons did not have any "superstars" I always looked at Rasheed Wallace like a Superstar! He went head to head with The best PF's in his era from Duncan, KG, Webber and Dirk! He is part of that First Tier of PF's in that era! The way they treat R.Wallace is if he was Elton Brand or Lamarcus Aldrige. lol. Rasheed Wallace game was ahead of his time and he would be more valuable today. Do not have to take my word for it, ask Andre Iguodala!

  • @dontbanmebrodontbanme5403
    @dontbanmebrodontbanme5403 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I don't look at it the Way Rob and Chris look at it. Miami rightly thought that since Dame only wanted to go to Miami, it would be smart of them to not give up the farm for him. They made a calculated gamble and it didn't work out. They were trying to steal Dame. I don't blame them for thinking they could.

    • @bayouboyentertainment2106
      @bayouboyentertainment2106 Před 9 měsíci

      Why they'd think that is part of the ridiculousness they point out Dame still under contract for multiple years lol, was he gonna sit out those years hiiiiiiighly unlikely. So the Dame to Miami only leverage was never there.

  • @alijordanx8954
    @alijordanx8954 Před 9 měsíci +5

    I always wanted to see Giannis & Dame link up it make sense they need each other (pause)

  • @marcusrudolph5961
    @marcusrudolph5961 Před 9 měsíci +5

    Intro to the show was embarrassing get it together rob and be ready smh bro didnt even lift his head till 2:40

    • @JUNNY923
      @JUNNY923 Před 9 měsíci +8

      Lol you must be new here

    • @AliasMaxx
      @AliasMaxx Před 9 měsíci

      It’s a radio show

    • @marcusrudolph5961
      @marcusrudolph5961 Před 9 měsíci

      @@JUNNY923 nah i I cen remember the episode he addressed being called out on it, looks like hes back to his old tricks

    • @marcusrudolph5961
      @marcusrudolph5961 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@AliasMaxx i work from home, but if im having a meeting where i have to show my face im going to at least look like im paying attention same principle.. it’s disrespectful to chris

  • @Lord_Clarke
    @Lord_Clarke Před 9 měsíci +2

    Heat and their fans are insane if they think Portland should've taken a 3 team deal getting them Ben Simmons over Ayton...these are not serious people

  • @geessaess1707
    @geessaess1707 Před 9 měsíci +2

    If Ron can’t bother to focus on his job instead of his damn phone. why should we take him seriously.

  • @TheBarnesFamilia
    @TheBarnesFamilia Před 9 měsíci +6

    The only thing I disagree with is when Chris Broussard says the trailblazers didn’t owe Dame anything. For 11 years, they never even gave him a chance to compete for a title and you continually stay loyal open to the point that he realized they were lying to him and then they talk about wanting to get good assets back, but we you didn’t do that the entire time he was there.

    • @soda8736
      @soda8736 Před 9 měsíci +6

      They paid his money they dont owe notbing but that amd they mostly were a playoff team during Dames time even got to the conference finals where Damn stunk. And other series too Damn didn't play well

    • @justdl
      @justdl Před 9 měsíci +3

      He got paid. He wouldn't have gotten paid as much if he left. That loyalty stuff also means extra $$$ so it's not all one sided.

    • @rickyrobby8133
      @rickyrobby8133 Před 9 měsíci +2

      ⁠​⁠@@soda8736you’re always here with the worst takes. Dame was the only reason they GOT THERE and were completely overmatched. You just said he “stunk” playing possibly the best of the last century with not even another All-Star on his team, do you hear yourself?
      They absolutely owe him even their organization has even a modicum of integrity. As much as these teams dig players in the media for not being loyal, he remained loyal even when they refused to build a competent roster around him.

    • @rickyrobby8133
      @rickyrobby8133 Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@justdl that doesn’t even make sense. It’s not as if they were paying him out of any goodwill. They were paying him because they literally had to.
      That’s like you working somewhere for ten years, and them saying, “we’re not going to be a reference for you because we paid you your salary. We don’t care that you were our hardest worker and we constantly made it harder for you to do your job.”
      You’d walk away from that situation thinking that’s fair and the right thing for them to do?

    • @soda8736
      @soda8736 Před 9 měsíci

      @@rickyrobby8133 so why does Jimmy Butler who Dame is supposedly way better than keep getting his teams to the NBA finals, but Dame needs so much help.?

  • @Marco.of.Substance
    @Marco.of.Substance Před 9 měsíci +2

    Miami would've had to gut their team to get Dame at 33 years old. Jimmy is 34. So you don't have much time to rebuild after you've gutted the team. Micky Arison won't pay the luxury tax even when LeBron was there so you have to build a championship roster with low round or undrafted picks. Pat has to win mainly with what he has in-house and add 1 or 2 pieces here and there. It's not like LA where they can sign a wild number of free agents.

  • @bighou2359
    @bighou2359 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Pat Riley liquidating and Miami had no plan. Martin twin is not a 4 and Bam is not a 5. Also, who's your starting 1 now?

  • @crappiesniper
    @crappiesniper Před 9 měsíci +2

    What Miami realizes is NO TEAM IN THE EAST IS WINNING IT ALL 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @HoopsMegaCentral
      @HoopsMegaCentral Před 9 měsíci +1

      Bucks can definitely win it all

    • @crappiesniper
      @crappiesniper Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@HoopsMegaCentral... you believe they can win it all? How? You 5hink they have enough to beat Denver? SUNS? Or the Lakers? I say that because I think they gave up 2 good 2 way players... that defense will be missed..

  • @rreid3570
    @rreid3570 Před 9 měsíci +1

    And while Tyler Herro IS talented, Miami is STUCK with a OVERPAID, overrated player who doesn’t play defense, and now KNOWS you don’t want him! 😂😂😂 I love it!

  • @DRoyale1
    @DRoyale1 Před 9 měsíci +3

    There are other deals to be made…it’s a whatever…

  • @kennguyen8038
    @kennguyen8038 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Pat Riley looked at Rob Pelinka and thought it will pay off in the end if he just wait it out. Embii and Butler still not enough to win anything. Let the Butler train runs it course and rebuild.

  • @lamontsanford6330
    @lamontsanford6330 Před 9 měsíci +2

    They didn't mention once who Dame was traded 4

  • @ike8886
    @ike8886 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I hate the Pat Riley Slander, what did Phil Jackson win without the 2 best players of all time?

  • @PengxueYG
    @PengxueYG Před 9 měsíci +1

    well see how the heat looks and see if they make any moves before trade deadline. coach spo and jimmy/bam still can compete against every other team and their coach doesn't compare to spo

  • @AlexanderBraden1
    @AlexanderBraden1 Před 9 měsíci +1

    As a Heat fan I’m pissed that the LEAGUE decided to intervene saying it wasn’t fair he had a destination, when EVERY SONGLE STAR OVER THE LAST 15 yrs has done the SAME FCKN THING!!! We (the Heat) didn’t have enough to make an offer. He had a young guard to offer but Portland had a handful of those. We just didn’t have enough to offer to begin with, the league getting involved fckd all our chances.

    • @neilbuckeye3809
      @neilbuckeye3809 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Not one player has ever demanded a trade to one team and one team only, and then say he'll sit out if he doesn't get his way. Foh

    • @bayouboyentertainment2106
      @bayouboyentertainment2106 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Nah the Heat coming in with the lowball Pat Riley special of Tyler Hero as the lead in the Dame trade was an easy no for Portland to make, and they never offered anything better than Tyler and some bums.

  • @calioumarx4289
    @calioumarx4289 Před 9 měsíci

    Fair analysis

  • @Blackrain7920
    @Blackrain7920 Před 9 měsíci

    Good for Pat Portland stood their ground

  • @whatssogoodaboutindy6696
    @whatssogoodaboutindy6696 Před 9 měsíci

    Love that title.

  • @dannewth7149
    @dannewth7149 Před 9 měsíci

    Milwaukee is gonna tear things up.

  • @PsychItsMike
    @PsychItsMike Před 9 měsíci

    Biggest win is offloading Nurk's & Little's contracts. Netting Jrue will get more than Herro. Huge W for PDX

  • @felixcontreras4603
    @felixcontreras4603 Před 9 měsíci

    I knew this was going to happen and no one believed me 😂

  • @jaylighten2641
    @jaylighten2641 Před 9 měsíci

    It’s amazing how fast the media will switch up on you. Lol

  • @MrInfinitig35s
    @MrInfinitig35s Před 9 měsíci

    Nothing like a good armchair GM. Always have the right answers.

  • @MaxTaylor-yx8bi
    @MaxTaylor-yx8bi Před 9 měsíci

    I called for this trade of Dame to go there years ago.. Biggest blemish on Pat Riley's incredible resume.

  • @ranma36
    @ranma36 Před 9 měsíci +1

    The Bucks package was not that much better than Miami’s. Blazers just wanted to stick it to Dame on the way out for basically demanding a trade to Miami.

    • @danr154
      @danr154 Před 9 měsíci

      uh no the Miami package sucked. Robinson is an overpaid Gerges Niang. Cant guard a fire hydrant. Herro is a run of the mill scorer theres fifty of in the league who cant guard a parked car with a negative wingspan.......they are not valuable players.

    • @BaithNa
      @BaithNa Před 9 měsíci +1

      I think it came down to Ayton vs Herro. Neither the Blazers or the Suns needed another guard that couldn't defend so they found Milwaukee.
      Holiday has more value than Herro as a trade asset and if they keep him, he's a vet that plays defense.

  • @postmastersgt1670
    @postmastersgt1670 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Pat Riley need to step down he crapped out on both Dame and KD.

    • @Milehigh_
      @Milehigh_ Před 9 měsíci

      KD should've came with Jimmy Butler in 2019 instead of teaming up with Kyrie in Brooklyn

  • @tednicklas3538
    @tednicklas3538 Před 9 měsíci

    Butler crying TAMPERING! 😊😅😂

  • @MDeezy42069
    @MDeezy42069 Před 9 měsíci

    Miami: giannis is coming.
    Nope.
    Miami: we’re getting dame.
    Nope.
    I love it

  • @coldchilln90
    @coldchilln90 Před 9 měsíci

    It’s funny that ppl think Dame didn’t want to go to the Bucks. His preferred destination was the heats but I’m sure he’s not mad about playing next to the Greek Freak lol. The media of course not going to like it because it’s not their market.

  • @Miami2Mocha
    @Miami2Mocha Před 9 měsíci

    Cronin asked for Bam and Jimmy..then refused to talk back to the Heat ..then stopped talking to Dame....their own franchise player....

  • @logosproclamation453
    @logosproclamation453 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Riley knows that Lillard does not make a team better. He ia a self scoring point guard. LOOK at the stats! He is not woth that much considering his style and his age.. That is why you are media and Riley has like 12 rings

  • @thetruth3000
    @thetruth3000 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Chris didn’t want the heat to land dame, so stop talking bra…

  • @TvFanatic-ui3pw
    @TvFanatic-ui3pw Před 8 měsíci

    The Heat got cocky and thought they didn't have to do anything to get Dame but just wait. I never even considered Dame going to the Bucks but when i heard the news i was shocked and happy i cannot wait until the season starts.

  • @keltners613
    @keltners613 Před 8 měsíci

    heat blew it. damain,butler,bam is a great to build it maybe they cannot win this yr but they gonna be always the favorite for 4 yrs.

  • @terrancehamilton6866
    @terrancehamilton6866 Před 9 měsíci +5

    Portland didn’t want to trade him to Miami. From what i read… Portland was never gonna send him here because that’s what he wanted…
    Facts 💯 ..

    • @theman9048
      @theman9048 Před 9 měsíci +4

      No the heat just didn't have anything they wanted

    • @terrancehamilton6866
      @terrancehamilton6866 Před 9 měsíci

      @@theman9048 google and see what his agent had to say about it

    • @bayouboyentertainment2106
      @bayouboyentertainment2106 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Nah Pat Riley tried to do what Pat Riley does and lowball them with Tyler Hero as the lead trade piece and they were like uhhhhh yeah easy pass.

  • @danielcorreard3746
    @danielcorreard3746 Před 9 měsíci

    this reminds me of when paul george wanted to be traded from the pacers and said he wanted to play for the lakers. what happened the lakers figured they could sign him as a free agent that offsesason so they didn't trade for him pacers traded him to ok city and then he resigned with ok city and lakers were left out in the cold. moral of the story if you have a chance to trade for someone don't drag your feet you snooze you lose.

  • @davincerica7232
    @davincerica7232 Před 9 měsíci

    I didn't understand Heat package from the start... Teams across the league really don't think high of Herro...

  • @mikeaustin4138
    @mikeaustin4138 Před 9 měsíci

    Damian Lillard and his team overplayed their hand. When they went public with Dame's desire to be traded *only* to the Heat, they handcuffed the Blazers and led the Heat to believe that they could get Dame on the cheap. It also shut down any possibility of Cronin and Lillard reconciling. If there's any blame here, it's on Dame and his team.

  • @Rayruckus51
    @Rayruckus51 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Tyler Herro and a bunch of so so picks wasn't gonna cut it ..

  • @lxgxndxry24
    @lxgxndxry24 Před 9 měsíci +5

    Dame kinda hurt himself even saying it was the only team leaving the heat tryna shake Portland down.

    • @rickyrobby8133
      @rickyrobby8133 Před 9 měsíci

      Clearly not since it didn’t happen

    • @lxgxndxry24
      @lxgxndxry24 Před 9 měsíci

      @rickyrobby8133 duh but it was his choice destination why would you have told the heat that. Miami tried to fleece blazers but had he not come out publicly he mightve been there.

    • @rickyrobby8133
      @rickyrobby8133 Před 9 měsíci

      @@lxgxndxry24 what you described is Miami overplaying their hand and losing the pot thinking they had it won.

    • @lxgxndxry24
      @lxgxndxry24 Před 9 měsíci

      @rickyrobby8133 if Dame hadn't said he only wanted Miami they would've been more competitive to get him.

  • @northernsurferboy
    @northernsurferboy Před 9 měsíci

    Miami still got Kyle who at his age can still be as good or even better in the playoffs than Dame, who's with me? Give me a hell yeah

  • @keemooo243
    @keemooo243 Před 9 měsíci

    If they don’t

  • @bjb860
    @bjb860 Před 9 měsíci +2

    After fumbling Dame Miami has to get Drew Holiday now.

    • @deehill6719
      @deehill6719 Před 9 měsíci

      Google that nigga name next time

    • @matthewrankin3556
      @matthewrankin3556 Před 9 měsíci +1

      no way. They should never deal with Portland. another team can get jrue .

  • @crappiesniper
    @crappiesniper Před 9 měsíci

    The point y'all kissing is if Portland took what they have they might as well took the Miami deal...what was Miami suppose to give up? Y'all go see why Miami didn't do the deal when Milwaukee fail to get out the East...