Michael Norman Is OUT OF CONTROL!
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- Michael Norman has been pushing the limits of sprinting over the previous few years, however 2022 was easily his best and most successful international season.
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Michael Johnson also ran under 44 and under 20 in the same season. In fact, he did it in six different seasons
The 400 🐐
Shhh that’s his next video
Yeah we talking about now not decades ago
@@TrentonCS MJ still did it. I believe the TRP said it hasn't been done.
@@TrentonCS who’s we
really hope gardiner and him can be at their peaks in 2023 so we can see some great battles go down (and hopefully times too)
That’s one of the showdowns I really want to see.
Norman is gonna run 44.1 at Worlds next year and some how come third, lol, he's lucky Gardiner and Zamora weren't fit the season.
Im coming in 2024 for gold, mark this comment.
Healthy Gardiner would have beaten Norman easily at the WCs. I am glad Norman won his WC gold, but with a time of 44.3 he still seems to be struggling to become a dominant force that was expected of him since his college days.
@@igloozoo3771 Uh, that is a NO. Norman has had plaguing injuries and yet still runs and never complains or whines with no excuses. So, NO, such speculation not worth diddly.
I applaud Michael on being one of three men under the 10/20/43 second barriers. I'm looking forward to seeing what he will do next year against Gardiner and hopefully healthy Van Niekerk. I think we're in for some great performances. Good luck to Michael!
10/20/44 - no-one has gone under 43 yet
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Great video but a correction is needed. At around 5:22 you stated that Norman is the only person other than Van Niekirk to run under 20 seconds in the 200 m and under 44 seconds in the 400 m in a single season. That is very much incorrect. I recall that in 1996 Olympics Michael Johnson ran 19:32 in the 200 m and 43.49. That was in a single olympic games. In July 2017 Isaac Makwala ran 43.92 in the 400, then 2 hours later on the same day he ran 19.77 in the 200m!
FACTS!
there are 4,5 guys who did that double ....over the years
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Half a million, great job man!
I have hope that Norman will be able to take his running to a new level now that he finally is a world champ. I think he’s going to mostly stay away from 100s, but I’d love to see him do a 200/400 double at an Olympics or world championships. I do believe he can get down to 43.3 territory someday. In 200, I could see him getting to 19.55-19.6 and seriously challenge for international golds. We’ve seen him take down Lyles before, he is capable of that kind of speed. Definitely such an exciting, versatile athlete
Great video. Always enjoy your stuff. Norman is in a tough place; sprints are absolutely stacked right now! He more than likely can't win a 200 race next year if Noah runs like he did this year, not to mention Fred and Erriyon. If Fred and Noah try to double again in the 1 and 2, does that open a window for Michael in either of those races? Last season was incredible all around and set up another great season to come!
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Given that everyone else at the top of that 300m WR list had run both sub 20/44s, it's impressive that Bolt who unfortunately never took the 400m seriously ran 30.97 in his only 300m race! Should be noted that MJ's 30.85s was run at altitude (1,339m/4,393ft) in Pretoria, South Africa. Would've been interesting to see what an interested 09/10 Bolt could have done in the 400m!
Isn't part of the problem that Norman usually produces his best times at the start of the season as opposed to the WC/Olympics later in the season when it matters? He's run 5 sub 44s - all in June or earlier! For what it's worth, I think he's the most talented 100m (9.86 ) / 200m (19.70) / 400m (43.45) combination sprinter currently, but lacks the 'dog' in him that you see in the likes of Kerley to take him to that next level! Would love to see a rejuvenated WvN, Norman, Kerley, Steven Gardiner, Kenny B, Lyles, Knighton & Kirani in that 300m race!
True. Gardiner would have easily won worlds if he had been able to compete, that race was shockingly slow for what Norman did at USAs and Prefontaine, so I'm not actually 100% sure he's mastered championships yet, we'll have to see in 2023!
He literally won the World Championships in the 400m this year
@@jackdeterman9786 By running slower than he did at the start of the year which was my main point (with his main rival Steven Gardiner out injured).
@@AJT127 Gardiner was having a good season too having started off the year setting a new indoor 300m WR (breaking Lyles's old WR by a massive 0.31s).
@@AllInTheGame01 Furthermore, the time he won the world championships with would've been 5th at Tokyo, which is what he already got in Tokyo, with a similar time. Gardiner and Zambrano not being there means we can't actually take much from this in terms of information, but hopefully the win under his belt means he will be ready to give his best next year when it counts!
When it comes to the 300m, I think plenty of runners are capable of breaking the WR next year (if they choose to try).
Obviously Norman, but also Kerley, Lyles and potentially even Knighton all have what it takes to run under 31s if you ask me.
I’d put my money on lyles
I don't think so, apart from Norman only Gardiner (19.75/43.48) & Kerley (19.76/43.64) have shown the 200m speed & 400m speed endurance to challenge that sub 31s clocking. Lyles, Knighton & Kenny B all have the 200m speed but are lacking the 400m speed endurance by some distance!
I don't see anyone on that level currently, but I could be wrong.
@@AllInTheGame01 I think Lyles has the 400m endurance necessary, he's just untested recently. Pulling away from Norman at the end of a 200?
@@midwestnagyfa4648 Not the same as 400m endurance e.g. Kenny B has at least run 44.73 for the 400m compared to 47.04 for Lyles!
Amazing!
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*Fun Fact:* Michael Norman (Mostly Well known as a 400m runner) ran the *2nd Fastest First 50m split in the 200m with a time of 5.62 seconds* Behind Only *Usain Bolt with a time of 5.60 seconds in his 19.19 World Record Time*
If Norman wanted to focus only on the 200m, how fast do you guys think he can run?
Is this really true? Which race did he do this at?
@@thedailystride5407 It was at Lausanne where he got second behind Noah Lyles this year.
Norman’s split time was 10.09 on the curve and 9.67 on the straightaway.
Can you post a link to those splits? I saw him split 10.0 over the opening 100 but I couldn't find anything to the hundredth of a second. Pretty crazy split. I wish I would've seen that during the making of this video
@@TotalRunningProductions Do you have Instagram? Cuz I tried to comment the link that I had since August, but it won’t go through.
I look forward to next season here is to a injury free winter preparation 😊🇬🇧
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The track at Mt SAC (where he ran the 43.65 400m) is brand new so I'd expect it to be fast. Lots of fast times that weekend in all the divisions of the Mt. SAC Relays (HS / college / open).
That race was not run at Mt. SAC. It was run at Camino college. Mt. SAC was being renovated.
A 300m Race would actually be something worth watching especially with these guys included
1. Michael Norman
2. Noah Lyles
3. Fred Kerley
4. Rai Benjamin
5. Steven Gardiner
6. Wayde Van Niekerk
7. Kirani James
8. Karsten Warholm/Alison Dos Santos
2017 Noah lyles ran 31.87 on an indoor track. He pretty much vowed to never run an open 400m, but maybe he could bring something to the table that could shock everyone.
Put it in the air and maybe we could see a battle in the 300m that would be worth watching. There are several sprinters could make it interesting.
43.45 happened 2 years ago. Nice b8t.
I gathered that with the amount of just made history titles
❤️❤️❤️❤️ norman
one of the most one of the most one of the most.
If I could run that fast, I surely would do it!
"If I was that fast, I would be!"
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Make it happen
If I could run a 37 second 400m, I surely would do it!
@@nicholasdimedio302 I'm trying. Plantar fasciitis doesn't help.
@@Dave-lr2wo 😂 Ding
At a buffet, I personally sneak corn into the buffet so others can enjoy them. I hide 6 boiled corn ears in my jacket pockets. It is a joy for me to see other patrons of the establishment eat my corn thinking they were part of the buffet.
I really want to see him go sub-43.
Norman is gonna run a couple sub-44s early in the season then he's gonna run 44.1 at Worlds next year and some how come third, lol, he's lucky Gardiner and Zamora weren't fit this season.
@@augustusfreeman4032 “Lucky”, lmao stop Norman has always been potentially the best quarter mile runner for years now. Don’t act like he got lucky cause other athletes were injured.
@@augustusfreeman4032 You keep making the same incredibly annoying comment. Guess what, buddy: if he stays injury-free, Norman is only going to get BETTER. And what kind of moron says an elite-tier athlete "wasn't fit for the season"? Stop making stupid excuses. Norman was BETTER this year, and he'll be BETTER for the years to come. Go away, bitter boy.
@@rebornedv8963 that American ignorance we love to see
@@rebornedv8963 Bruh, look at Norman's times in the finals compared to his best out of Championship races. He is not clutch, he still hasn't mastered balancing the rounds at major Championships. Yes he IS lucky that Gardiner and Zamora weren't there.
We need to see Michael Norman vs. Fred Kerley in the 300m!
He’s insane what a ridiculous time
As a South African, I'd like Wayde's record to stand for a while longer. As an athlete, I'd like to see someone (Wayde himself maybe???) go under 43. What about a sub 30 for 300?
I dunno. It kinda looks like he's past his career peak.
@@henrybrowne7248 He also had a few years of not pushing his body to the limit. One can hope.
love to see him take a crack at 800
He's doping, it's that headband
We need a Fred/Michael showcase
Also, how many sub 44s has Norman clocked now n how close is he to MJs record ?
5 sub 44s (all in June or earlier) compared to 22 sub 44s for MJ.
@@AllInTheGame01 HE IS still far from MJ records ....but solid already .
@@AllInTheGame01
MJ ran 22 in 10 or 11 years of competition, its early to be disregarding Norman at this stage in his career.
Out of all the runners today Norman must have the most sub 44's.
MJ musta ran 20 sub 44's before he finally broke the world record, if not 22 !
MJ got nothing easy in the 400, he just made it look easy.
Looks like Norman is being served up his glory at the same rate of progression.
@@SPIDERM0OSE Nowhere did I disregard Norman, simply answered the question that was asked. Kirani has 8 sub 44s (would have been more without the Graves Disease issue); WvN has 6 sub 44s (would also be more without all his injuries); Gardiner has 5 sub 44s - majority of which are later in the season during major champs when it matters!
@@AllInTheGame01
Good info mate, thx.
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you should do a vid on Abdihamid Nir
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i feel like his 400 meter running speed is my top end speed lool
that would still equate a crazy top end speed.
are you a D1 sprinter?
@@the4fibs832 nope
His 400 meter speed is faster than most peoples top end. There’s a guy on my team who runs an 11.4 in the 100. Meaning Michael Norman could run an entire 400 and have my teammate start as soon as Norman reaches him and it’ll be a close race.
Just because Wayde van Niekerk made it look easy that doesn't mean breaking the 300m WR is easy.
Remember, there was a guy who ran 9.58 for 100m ,14.36 for the 150m, 19.19 in 200m and barely maneged to get into sub 31 ,300m
Truth
Mathew Boling may get into this elite club, he already has two of them. And a relay 44. Michael Norman is a real threat for a WR in the 400. No one is in Lyles league for the furlong....
Yeah, I'm wondering about that too. I wonder if he has any goals.
1:02 april 20 is the birthday of a famous austrian man. Just a reminder.
Def should've mentioned that
@@midwestnagyfa4648 it's also a holiday in California to celebrate weed smoking.
him
He's so handsome.
Bit confusing at the start, start talking about the quickest season opener in April 2019 wondering what he can do later in summer and talking about how he won the world finals in 2022, that 3 years was a really long season 😆😆
42.95s
Fred Curley would like a word. He has run a sub 10 100m, a sub 20 200m and a sub 44 400m.
I get the feeling that there should be a difference been made between olrder records run on non carbon plated shoes, vs the new records with carbon plated shoes.
Better yet, the difference between records set on rubber/synthetic tracks and the old dirt/crushed granite/clay tracks. At least in the high school level in Southern California anything run on a dirt track is not recognized as a valid time anymore for championship qualification.
I'm so glad someone is keeping track 😁 of all this . .
sounds like Noah Lyles keeps bitch slapping Norman in the 200m lol
Would be fun to see an informal record for the "total time" in 00.00 for 100+200+400.
Van N: 72.81
Norman: 73.01
Kerley: 73.15
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Bolt: 74.05
Benarek: 74.3
Lyles: 76.21
Doing it this way is heavily skewed by the 400m. I think a better picture of dominance would be a cross country style scoring system for fastest times in each distance. Whereby the runner with the lowest score is the most dominant overall*. Doing it this way you get 1. Kerley 6 / 24 / 8 = 38 pts 2. Norman 24 / 16 / 40 = 80 pts 3. Van N 81 / 40 / 1 = 122 pts (100 / 200 / 400). Van N is THE most dominant in the 400 but 81st in the 100. Kerley might not have a WR but his average dominance across the 3 distances put together is more pronounced than Norman & Van N.
@@oilguy777 I have a good deal of experience with scoring systems, soI welcome the ideas. I'm not at all suggesting that what I originally threw out is optimal (it was more of a fun idea), BUT:
1. I'm not convinced that it is skewed by the 400 whatsoever, actually. Show me how. Large variances are the opportunity, not the penalty; every participant has the opportunity to discount time on an equal basis.
2. I'm not clear on what your method actually is. Is this based on ranking? Because then it would have the fatal flaw of not rewarding disproportionately fast times (which aggregation/summing actually does do in a rough way), since you assign a place-based score in a linear fashion.
3. The ACTUAL correct way to score comparative multiple performances is to use a multi-events (e.g. like in decathlon) scoring method where performances are plotted against a distribution and where rarer (faster) performance scores are calculated using a coefficient that results in an exponential curve. The table of scores thus rewards smaller increments of points when the performance is near the mean but much bigger jumps towards the tail. The basis of determining "rarity" is a large data set of historical performances in a distribution. Scoring this way might result in Bolt winning the comparison since his 100 and 200 are so outlandish, but that's a guess.
Forgetting Tyson Gay, 74.16
@@timmytheinventor4746 I just took some random data, didn't mean to exclude anyone. Tyson was a beast!
Uh, no, that weighs the 400 too heavily. Mike would have blasted WVN at his very best in 2 out of 3.
Dude in red @ 2:05
Bruh, do you even technique? 😂
Dude slowed down at 43.45
Everyone knows Bolt could've gotten close to 30.00 had he trained for it
I don't know that,.
Unquestionably, beyond a shadow of a doubt. Bolt's untapped times in the "unconventional" distances would all have been records.
But the focus of his career was real distances, not "exhibition" distances, which he did only rarely. And for good reason. They're meaniningless.
@@Xx-po1fu 😂 Me neither.
I saw the time and lost it. 43.45!
Not taking away anything the Norman has done, if Bolt concentrated on the 400m you would have been the 100, 200 & 400m world record holder. Let that sink in. Bolt is a fair bit more talented.
The 400 is a grown man's race
Just with any sport...on any given Sunda... U'll never know who's gonna show up.
Kirani can run sub 31 in the 300m
I don't think so, apart from Norman only Gardiner (19.75/43.48) & Kerley (19.76/43.64) have shown the 200m speed & 400m speed endurance to challenge that sub 31s clocking. Kirani with a 20.41 PB doesn't have the sub 20s 200m speed and has only gone sub 44s once (43.88) in the last 5yrs!
As far as racing goes Michael is frick'n amazing. As far as which ethnic background is responsible for such speed...? I have to give it to his father. Though, I find it fascinating that mainstream media kept talking about the Asian side which wasn't a credit to his speed. Real head scratcher that.
Wayde is the best in the world.
. BEST CANDIDATE for . W R🤯😱
Doesn't that make Norman the only human in history to go under 43.5 in the 400, 19.8 in the 200 & 9.9 in the 100 ?
True, but that’s to the point of cherry picking. You could also say that for Kerley, but switch sub 44.5 for sub 9.8
@@troliskimosko agreed
@@troliskimosko
Not so.
Kerley is a magnificent athlete too & Im a fan but this isnt 1980.
No longer is sub 10 impressive, 9.90 isn't even that impressive, id say that 9.8 is the new 10 sec barrier & its something Norman should be looking to break but seeing as no white man has gone under 9.90 yet it probably should be considered the new 10 sec barrier.
As for 19.8, I dount theres even 20 men in history who has gone under it, therefore its a valid claim that its the new 20 sec barrier. 43.5 is probably even more exclusive with maybe only 10 men going under it.
Im not cherry picking, just giving the man his due, hes an amazing athlete.
@@SPIDERM0OSE You make a fair argument. Though, what do you mean by “no white man has gone under 9.9”? Is Jacobs not white?
@@troliskimosko
I thought he was black, mixed race, black n something else like maybe Mexican or white.
I didn't kno he considered himself white.
I think it's fair to say that Information and Materials advancements has been a very Real factor. I do not think it's really fair to glorify today's athletes over past generations. Given the same materials and information I seriously doubt there would be any difference in performance. I think there needs to be consideration for this is record books.
I totally agree with that. But I have no idea how they could adjust--maybe, if thru research, they could at least get the type of track involved and keep additional info besides the time and wind. But the further back in time, the less info is available. I'm just as fascinated by historical achievements as current ones. I always like to say one cannot compare athletics across eras.
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Michael Norman peaked in April 2018, he won't beat that 43.45
Based on what knowledge? Nice there. LOL
@@ericdawson845 and just like that he switches to the 100m 🐸☕
@@SauceKingg or 200 or 400, just like that he is versatile & never complains of injury and never makes excuses
This is more of a what everybody has done better than Norman video.
Apparently opening time means nothing because he didnt improve
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Norman is supergreat but no way he will beat v.Niekerk 43.03. Reason: he is too “heavy”.
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Still not as good as Wayne who is getting stronger and faster so Norman won’t catch him
Stop overhyping him , he is past his best
This is old
He's 100% juicing
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