Zack Snyder's Justice League (2021) VS Justice League (2017)
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- čas přidán 25. 05. 2024
- Zack Snyder's Justice League aka The Snyder Cut has finally been released on HBO Max. And in this video, we are going to compare it to the Theatrical Joss Whedon Cut of Justice League from 2017.
Its Justice League vs Justice League. Is Zack Snyder's Justice League, The Snyder Cut superior to the Joss Whedon Justice League, or is it somehow worse?
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WB: Zack we want you to make your justice league movie however you want, what you need?
Zack Snyder: The actors back, 70 milion dolars and a crowbar
WB: What do you need the crowbar for?
Zack Snyder: Joss Whedon
Actually they didn't want him to make the movie however he wanted because they cut out green lantern
Lol
Remember the scene in the movie where Arthur Curry/Aquaman points angrily at Barry Allen/Flash and he said “I am sorry”. That’s basically what Zack Snyder was like Joss Whedon.
@@Starwarsfanboy0928 Aquaman literally said *"BOOOOOYYY"* with a finger
I would love to see Joss Whedon in a Robin suit, and Snyder in a Joker suit.
Flash saving the World by himself while all hope is gone is cool. But you know what's cooler ? Flash saving a random Russian family.
It doesn't get any better than that. 🤯
Yeah man, don’t mess with Russians, remember Grievous?
Let’s make him say some awesome word to a girl
@@chillaxe3370 Who needs a character arc when you get to touch Miss Israel's boobs ?
@@gary4934 Wb executives would be proud
My god, could you IMAGINE if we got to see this in theaters in 2017?
Dceu would have been in a different position
@@Muhammad_Shadab_Rahmani5. true we probably already got a sequel right now
@@sharifzareeai8954 yep
I mean it's a 4 hour long movie so i don't know if it would work
@@pepsimaxguy7650 released in 2 or 3 parts. Then after the parts we could have got the new Flash film earlier. And we might not have gotten Wonder Woman 1984(or what ever year it is)
I went into the Snyder cut hearing “It’s still bad, it’s still not a good movie” but damn I was actually blown away, I was shocked at how much I actually enjoyed the film
Some people just want to watch the world burn.
I mean, everyone's going to have their opinions.
Neither MoS or BvS were as hated as the vocal minority would have you believe, and we know that, because the Ultimate Edition, sat at the top spot in home video sales for several weeks.
@@riteousrighthand6144 thats because at the end of the day, its still a superhero movie based on the most populat comic book characters of all time. Movie was still trash.
@@kevinjames60 with an all time historically bad word of mouth.
The Ultimate Edition is fantastic.
@@kevinjames60 that's like..your opinion man
@@harshpherwani6590 no shit
Joss Whedon: Sees flash saving the world
Joss Whedon: Deletes that and adds flash pushing a truck
Joss Whedon: Now this is an avengers level threat
joss whedon: watches the the snyder cut.
joss whedon:"this movie sucks like weres the jokes, weres my flash x wonderwomen scene, why does superman no longer have a cgi face, were is my rushan family"
the fans: i need to get your glasses perscription so i can see the bull shit thats coming out of your mouth
or in this case a justice league level threat
At least Quicksilver from Marvel cared about W.h.i.p.l.a.s.h cause by moving too fast on a normal human. Whedon's Flash would have massacred the whole family that way
@@mrgrim17794 yeah true tho but why care about logic if the movie is epic
@@jacknite625 the worst thing is watching that flash and wonder woman scene, knowing full well that Whedon did an acrual script for a wonder woman movie that was just his wet dreams taken out of the predesessor of wattpad
Although Snyder cut is 4 hours it feels faster... or *it's much eaiser to watch*
Since it's release I've seen it 3 times and I just love more and want to watch more lol.😂😂👏 I only have not see it 10 times already because it have a lot blood shedding and strong inappropriate words and I'm a Christian😢😢😪.
I think the right phrase is, it's much easier to watch
@@rajarshisantra8203 yup
Both
Because the Other one sucked
Like Snyder said during the production of JL in 2016:
"Man of Steel is about father figures, BvS is about mother figures, & Justice League is about family."
And Snyder Cut is indeed feels like it's about family. We can see the journey of these ragtag team from different backgrounds, starts from not finding a common ground to finding the common ground & from sloppily fighting the bad guy to defeating the bad guy in a perfect sync. Snyder Cut feels like those superheroes are more than a team. They're a family.
still Man of Steel and Batman V Superman were bad movies. I feel like Snyder is being hyped up to much, his cut of JL was good, but he also made Superman kill someone and Batman use guns
@@theunovanative7640 disagree with that but to each his own
@@elishawilson5342 agreed
@@theunovanative7640 I believe Superman killing and batman using guns, one aspect doesn't make the whole movie bad in my opinion.
@@kartikadewi3270 Batman's whole thing is how he doesn't use guns, and he doesn't kill people. thats like his thing. Superman's killing was dumb because if he was strong enough to snap his neck, he could have just moved his head.
If we got this in 2017 DCEU would have never been the same
Unpopular opinion: This movie saved DC in sense of DC willing to reconstruct and have Gunn in charge
Snyder's also explained why barry immediately accepted Bruce's proposal. Not just because "he needs friends" but because his father recently told him to make his own future and not just focus on earning money to be a criminal lawyer for his dad
Yea the scene before add context and meaning/support to other scenes
Also he Didn't immediately join him.There is a 'speed force' sound effect right before he says 'stop right there".That means he thought thoroughly in Flash Time
that's so much more touching
And doesn’t mention brunch
@@memeempire4931 damn i didn't even notice that
Snyder cut: The smell of gasoline
2017 version: the taste of gasoline
🤣🤣
hell yeah
@Kzaxrtij Skather and what's common among all of them is they all burn
That, actually puts it perfectly.
Snyder cut: Smell of soap 🧼😀
Whedon cut: Taste of soap 🧼 🤢
“I’m not broken, and I’m not alone.”
This line hit me hard, triggered the water works and everything. To my surprise I looked around the room and not a single dry eye was present in that moment. I was not alone. Even right then and there. It really was an emotionally overwhelming moment for me. Loved this movie, and is everything I needed from this first DCEU attempt.
Imagine if this cut was released back then. Even at 4 hours, people would’ve been blown away in theaters. They could’ve put an intermission between each part or two for breaks, that would’ve been a unique experience 😮
With good editting it can be cut down to 3 hrs and 20 mins without the epilogue
Thats an even easier movie going experience
@@BrazenLunatic fr. It was so long and a lot of parts felt so unnecessary.
I don't think so. I think people would have thought that it was pretty good, but it's only highly praised because it was the reboot of a dumpster fire. A very good reboot, but a reboot none the less.
i promise you it woudlve been a glorious moment. i dodubt we woudlve seen darksied in the trailers so imagine walking out knowing hes coming bruh
But the separation into parts has always felt weird to me because it seems like they’re just cut at random points without any build up or consequence to make the film seem more intelligent
ngl that scream from cyborg “barry!” before the motherboxes unite gives me the chills...
GREAT FUCKING MOVIE MAN AND IM A FUCKING MCU FAN SMH
Ray Fisher really knocked it out of the park with his performance. That man knows how to make you feel.
there was so much at stake even tho superman was there it wasnt enough. The last time I felt this much dread was X-Men: Days of Future Past
@@CS-pg4go X-Men: Days Of Future Past...a true underrated masterpiece.
Me too
24:00 you kinda left out the scene where Arthur is legit concerned about what they're asking Vic to do: a kid who just lost his father, to take on three of the most powerful machines of the universe. And when Barry tells him "I thought you didn't care", Arthur tells him "I...never said that".
This actually makes Jason's casting a giant plus-he looks and acts like a tough dude, but he definitely has a heart and does care, and is a lost soul. Spoke more volumes about his character than the stupid "lasso of truth" exposition BS scene.
Yeeeeees I loved that scene !!!! And the scene in the graveyard
Yes! As far as explaining character that did so well. With so few moments.
I agree, it shows that people usually judge him from his appearance
Facts
It also adds more to Aquamans eventual acceptance of his greater Responsibility .
Hes been bitching and moaning about being an orphan prince with no mom,meanwhile he notices this kid who Lost both of his parents in front of him,his entire human body,and his normal life,yet this kid is stepping up to save the world when it matters.
The main thing I actually enjoyed more in Snyders version is that he actually established the other characters besides Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman. Especially Cyborg, who was basically absent in the whedon cut.
Whedon's version: 2 hours of horrible jokes and pointless scenes
Zack's version: 4 hours of an incredible story where every second has a meaning
Every seconds are enjoyable to watch . Well probably not the singing ladies . No
@@chairulmaulana1963But those ladies and villagers adore Aquaman for he is for them a deity a God who brings food and protection to their isolated village thats why they sang to thank him as appriciation.
@@rojelgrabato4321 i know, but the singing tho .
@@chairulmaulana1963 Singing in their native toungue is cool I appriciate their culture.
The Film was like 3 hours and half just perfect some Cuts
Whedon's steppenwolf: a dude who cry for his mum
Zack's steppenwolf: a lost puppy who want to come home.
Zack’s Steppenwolf: a dude who cries for his dad to let him back in the house after being kicked out for delinquency
@@TheVagabond627 nah Puppy
@@nothingherezero7182 how nah?
@@TheVagabond627 darksied isn't his dad though
@@srikanthsv79 the mother boxes ain’t his mother either
"You Ray, are the heart of my movie."
Snyder wasn't lying one bit when he said that.
Its poetic really... the person whose more robotic than human is the heart of the team.
@@ghaldurinanubios4290 damn .. your words really tears me up🥲
I never got what Snyder meant when he said Ray Fisher/Cyborg was the heart of the movie because Whedon took out so many of his scenes or simply made them worse. Now I understand and it makes me dislike the 2017 cut even more.
@@navonmyhand7999 which interview did snyder say this ???
#IStandWithRayFisher
It's unfortunate Ezra is having the issues he's having. The scene in Snyders Cut completely redeemed the movie for me. I was already impressed, but it was one of those scenes that you're going to remember forever. Hope he can work out his personal issues.
and in the flash trailer , he acts good in my opinion under andy muschetti's directing style.
8:35 Completely agree. Couldn't stand his version of Flash beforehand but that scene right there made me appreciate him as Flash. Maybe anybody could've done that part. But when he did it, being that I didn't like him as Flash, I was like okay, he'll work for The Flash. One of the best scenes in superhero cinema. I watch that scene repeatedly in the film. Junkie XL's score, the speed force, the emotion, what the Flash can truly do, the meanings and the heroism.... it can only be described as EPIC. Whedon's trash can't compare with this epic undertaking.
I can't stand Whedon. He clearly looked to butcher DC and he went full on hack with his ego & ugly personality. He couldn't have cared less about the product or the actors and staff as everyone did their best to be professional. Glad he didn't get away with it his garbage and Ray Fisher stood up to his foolishness and many others came around him and supported him and backed up what he was saying in telling the truth.
Imagine when you are hired to make a funnier version of JL and you failed to make jokes, while the original serious director gives higher quality jokes.
Frogge
FR
Pepe
Imagine thinking this movie was good
@@bambamrubble3151 Joss’s version?
At least in Age of Ultron, the "whoops, I fell on a woman's chest" joke is between characters who the film had already established were romantically interested with each other, making things feel less cringey.
It’s still just as strange. The characters never showed any romantic interest in each other at all and randomly giving them this relationship out of nowhere is just weird
@@att1tude__ That's fair enough, but there are four films (five if you go chronologically) between The Avengers and Avengers: Age of Ultron, totalling roughly two years in-universe. The Widow/Hulk relationship doesn't bother me that much for this precise reason -- there's enough in between time for things to have sparked, even if the characters weren't quite aware of said spark until AoU.
@@att1tude__ Natasha and Bruce spent more time together than any other characters in the first Avengers film.
@@OverlyPositiveFanboy but we weren’t shown this. So that relationship crap is very dumb and stupid
@shut up they didn’t completely get rid of it. When Bruce finally returns to Earth he singles out Natasha to give her a compliment and Natasha looks like the love of her life just entered the room. Then Falcon points out how awkward it is, you know, due to the fact that he had been gone for so long without anybody knowing what had happened. The relationship is also referenced in Ragnarok when Hulk sees the recording of Nat. Bruce also reacts to it with longing eyes. You are pretty dumb and silly person. Endgame was the only movie that definitely put an end to that romance, despite Bruce getting fed up with the conversation on the dock and Hulking out on that bench. They still had intense feelings for each other and it is so obvious.
ZSJL was made so well that in those 4 hours, I never felt tired or sleepy even a bit. That's truly admirable and I even think it's an even more awesome introduction than the 1st Avengers film (if only Josstice League doesn't exist).
The Snyder cut is the personification of the phrase of "LET THE DIRECTOR HAVE CREATIVE CONTROL."
Nah, the Snyder cut is the personification of "What happens when run time isn't an issue?"
@@writer_man5318, both actually. Either way, is better than previous Snyder`s movies and, for my surprise & satisfaction, way better than every Marvel movies.
I do like Marvel, but not as much as DC.
Meanwhile in Marvel: Thor Shit and Giggle had too much creative control
@@D3x5t4rEverything went downhill after endgame. Spiderman 2 &3 was cool though.
@@who-ny5oe nah I didn't like far from home, and No way home was more like nostalgia bait but seeing Tobey and Andrew would give it a pass. Other than that, it was meh. The other movies are horrible
The Flashes arc in Zack Snyder’s Justice League: *Trying to help his father, trying to prove himself, wants to help people, finds friends, overall finding his place in the world*
The Flash’s character arc in Joss Whedon’s Justice League: Brunch
The Snyder Cut made me realize why I got into comics in the first place
brunch... and pushing truck.
@@amazo88 and saving random russian people
Dostoevsky
Whedon was trying to destroy Synders legacy for his own, disgusting
Meanwhile, Zack Snyder is riverdancing over the grave of Joss Whedon's career
not joss, but over WB's grave
@@thesimpledude186 Both.
@@thesimpledude186 - Joss sacrificed his own artistic and directorial integrity when he accepted this job from WB and willfully compromised another creator's vision. He could have declined out of respect, but his ego got in the way and he sabotaged it, probably so it couldn't compete with his films (which is something Ray Fisher has inferred as well, saying how he seemed hung up on how ill-received Age of Ultron was and even accidentally calling Diana "Natasha" at times). Besides that, there have been reports that he was abusive and unprofessional on-set, which isn't hard to believe, considering similar claims are coming from the cast of Buffy and his ex-wife's accounts of his affairs with people working under him. It's becoming more and more clear that Joss Whedon simply doesn't belong in this business.
@@kyransawhill6650 it's mostly WB's fault, they are the ones that suggested all that to be reshot
@@thesimpledude186 - Yes, but he accepted the job. He even replaced several scenes with completely new ones. He could have left a few important scenes in to introduce us to the characters and their motivations, but he didn't. And he reshot several scenes that were pretty much the same, but with worse takes, slightly altered dialogue, and different camera angles because he had to have his fingerprints all over the whole thing. It's absolutely mostly WB's fault, but Whedon isn't blameless. And it doesn't excuse his behavior or disrespect for the original director.
you can tell snyder listened to his criticism and incorporated it into his cut.
Love this film. The theatrical cut pissed me off. I remember walking into the theater expecting this and leaving so disappointed.
The bank account scene is also genius, because Cyborg sees himself as this monster, and I believe he even declared "fuck the world" before that part. And then he did that, the same sort of vigilante benevolence as the time he hacked the GCU gradebook just to improve someone else's grades, proving that he hasn't changed as much as he thinks he has. Stroke of genius, I tell you!
It sure is. Well said buddy.
I hope you enjoyed the video. :)
Genius? It's called stealing asshole, maybe if he'd taken it from the joker or some drug dealer OK.
You must be unaware of how economy works. He just gifted the woman many years of government surveillance & probably the funds will be taken from her by the government. Not to mention what the IRS will do. She probably will be fined as well if she used any of the money. Not genius - shows how lazy the writing is. They should have done some research.
@@ForeverSweetx3 real life logic don’t apply here like it doesn’t apply in Marvel universe or other superhero universe.
@@ForeverSweetx3 Plus most of those ATM's are refilled by small mom n pops contracted by the banks. If $ comes up missing, they pay.
I love how Snyder gave steppenwolf human eyes. It almost... weirdly makes me feel bad for him
Human kid eyes to be exact.. 🥺
Watery puppy eyes tho 🥺
That's the point.
Human/puppy eyes help us connect with character, because we can recognise us in them. If Steppenwolf had more alien like eyes, it would not hit the same
@@PredatorPL-vp2qt funny thing is steppenwolf earliest design has a more monstrous-alien look even his eyes but then zack change it for the snyder cut bcuz he thought it's too much and the rest is like what you said
lets ignore the fact that he killed trillions of people already. lol 😂 but i get your point
I think the bleakest thing about the Knightmare future is that Aquaman died but Mera and Barry are still alive.
Excellent review, I agree with you on all points, even the minor nitpicks. Snyder really did deliver with ZSJL and I really hope he gets to continue his ‘verse in some capacity down the road
“Fly son, it’s time.”
That scene alone, from a guy who was not the biggest fan of MoS or BvS, this was truly a 10/10 scene
I 100% agree
imma be honest, the way the flash runs is so goddamn goofy it pisses me off
@@m1rac1e yeah I will agree that is definitely goofy lmao
I mean, even most conservatively, we “finally” have Pa being proud of Clark As Superman.
@@davidw.2791 Jonathan was always proud of him, he knew one day the world would see Clark for who he truly was, he just didn't want him to potentially be taken away and warped by the government as a young teen. As any decent parent would. He was protecting his immigrant son. Considering half the Snyders' children are adopted and not white he knows what it's like to be a parent scared for their child who doesn't conform to what white America expects. The writing of Pa Kent was just fine.
"We have no fear!" I cannot fathom why this part was left out by Whedon. It was such a great moment for the Amazons.
Agreed. Really cool 300 spartan vibes in that scene.
Thats the drawback of being told "add more jokes, and make it 2 hours max"
especially more baffling because the Joss cut had the inciting and driving force behind the villains was fear. That line "we have no fear" would have had even more weight in the Joss cut.
Because then the parademons couldn't attack lol
Because joss whedon prefers his women to live in fear...
I just watched the Snyder film and it was soooo impressive! The movie was 4 hours and I STILL wanted more. Hope they will allow us to enjoy more films directed by Snyder and allow them to be as long as he needs them to be. #OneLove 👊🏿
OMG... THANK YOU for being one of the FEW CZcamsrs to admit that the Snyder-cut was _superior._ I've seen SO MANY CZcamsrs, Redditers, and film critics try to act "unmoved", saying things like, _"meh ..there weren't enough differences to justify it's existence."_ or _"Zack Snyder is PRETENTIOUS and COMPLETELY overused the slow-mo schtick!"_ or, _"The Snyder-cut was 'too violent!' Batman, Wonder Woman, and Aquaman aren't supposed to 'hurt people'!"_ 🙄 OR you have those reviewers who act like they 'liked' the film, but then proceed to be SO overly nit-picky that it's obvious they are trying to be seen as some "intellectual film buff" by acting either overly bored, or just overly neurotic about details. I want to smack these dumb, pretentious reviewers _so badly._
I was afraid this video would be more of the same, but I was PLEASANTLY SURPRISED that this was actually positive AND gave the Snyder-cut it's due props. I don't know how I missed this video, but I'm glad I finally came across it! I'll definitely be subbing, and 💯 look forward to seeing more of your channel!
Man, you really add the tiny detail that when Wonder Woman appears in this video, her music plays
I pay great attention to detail in ALL of my videos. 😉
Thanks for watching. I really hope you enjoyed the video.
I'm happy I'm not the only one who noticed that
Fucking Awesome 😂🤣🤣😂😂🤣👌🏾👌🏾
Yeah😂
Funny asl
Dasaad : I told you, the Josstice league will fail.
Darkseid: Yes, yes you did.
Dasaad : what will we do, now that Josstice league is destroyed.
Darkseid : Snyderverse has been found Dasaad and we will stop at nothing to Restore it.
Ready the hashtags, we'll use the old ways....
#RestoreTheSnyderverse
#RestoreTheSnyderVerse
#ReleaseTheAyerCut
#restorethesnyderverse
#MakeTheBatfleckMovie
Iam impressed
#RestoreTheSnyderversenow
I believe that the old ways, is spam WB with letters through the mail. Who's with me!!
One of the significant contributing factors to the vast disparities between these two versions is WB’s lack of commitment to any real long term plan for their DC properties vs their delusional expectations of gratification through a quick financial return. Joss Whedon, when he is on his game, can be amazing. From the end result on this film he seems to have been hired solely to “Wehdonized” what he could of Synder’s film. A thankless task all around.
WB has been floundering around with changes of direction since their entry into the Extended Universe concept without any self reflection on their part in the debacles several of the choices have caused.
I’ve watched both versions back to back and the runtime criticism doesn’t stand up. A good story is worth whatever time is needed to engage with it. The Synder JL was infinitely more gratifying experience for me than the mandated two hour version Whedon provided.
The Ultimate Edition of Dawn of Justice is thirty minutes longer, but significantly better story wise. Synder was laying groundwork for his vision of an Extended Universe, presumably a long term endeavour, which initially had WB’s commitment. Disney was smart enough to invest in their future potential for Marvel (perhaps partially due to Stan Lee’s involvement?).
WB seems to think changing the deck (either cast, or directors) alone is a substitute for their responsibility to make a sustained, committed effort at intelligent storytelling. A pity they haven’t seen that Marvel’s success thus far has been built by acknowledging that a committed fan base arises from intelligently written and creatively presented stories developing identifiable characters instead of randomly assembled thumbnails, however slick such rubbish is presented.
This is a piece of ART!!!!!! It is beautiful!!! It is magic. The scenes are beautiful. The artistic scenes shocked me. I love you Zack. I will watch this again and again. It is 4 hours of art and love. THANK YOU ZACK! I love this film!
23:57 cyborg was crying which showed that he is still a human with bunch of emotions trapped inside him
Even after losing his humanity, he is still a human. That is his odyssey, his arc will change him to a god of technical age.
This Movie is a Masterpiece
This comparison is like comparing moldy bread to a beautiful bagel.
XD I Kno, Joss Whedon Is One Sick Bastard
Don't tell mauler that
More like moldy bread to a chocolate donut with sprinkles.
More like moldy bread to regular bread.
hey, dont insult moldy bread like that.
There’s actually a rule that if a director takes on another director’s film, they’ll need to shoot between 50% - 75% of the film’s material (whether that be reshot or entirely new) to actually get a directors credit.
This was meant to explain why Josstice League is the way it is, however this ended up making even less sense when Joss didn’t get (or refused to take) director’s credit
Before the Snyder Cut, I was excited to see it because I thought they were going to make improvements to the original movie. When I learned the movie was 4 hours long and less than 30 minutes of it were from the original, I couldn't wait to see it, and to be honest, I thought it was awesome. I've heard people complain about the movie being 4 hours long, but I would have been happier if it was 6 hours. In the end, I had no idea 4 hours had gone by and thought we were going to see Darkseid and his armada attack.
I think my favorite things about the Snyder cut are that the characters actually have arcs and consistent personalities, also I love that each member of the league was essential to win the day rather than Superman carrying the whole team
I love how many at the time of josstice was like " it's too early, flash and cyborg hasn't even had their origin stories" when that's exactly what zacks justice league was.. It was their origin story.. Superman, batman and ww got their own movies and aquaman had his right around the corner so they get less screen time while the 2 biggest arcs goes to the newest members so the audience could get to know them... And then joss made them comedic sidekicks
The fact that Zack Snyder had to fight with the studio. To have his vision the studio still tried to hamper his vision. Like the green lantern cameo he wanted in the movie. They fought him on the whole flashpoint scene. This movie is so amazing to me I've seen it 8 times. Everything had meaning and all the characters seemed so important in the Snyder cut especially the villains
lol its 4 hours long
@@mr.t658 he's mad lad
@@mr.t658 so is lord of the rings return of the king. Your point?
@@TheMegawingzero their both too long
@@mr.t658 for you. I would rather have a long great story and pacing. Then, a shorter story with bad Writing and pacing. That's how you get wonder woman 1984. which was two was half Hours but felt like 7.
We need a cut like this for Spider-Man 3. There are deleted scenes due to the length of the movie. One of the deleted scenes were where he looked in a mirror and got a jump scare vision of himself being Venom and Venom doing the screaming sound. There’s a lot more development and it explains why he became scared of the suit so randomly. Context matters.
And bringing back Venom Animatronic and so much more #ReleaseTheRaimiCut
Yeah bring back Unused Black Suit and so much more! Hire Raimi Fans and i saw from CZcams
I like that Ray Fisher, Ray Porter and Ciaran Hinds portrayed their respective characters of Cyborg, Steppenwolf and Darkseid through the use of motion capture.
Rotten Tomato “Critics”: I doN’t SeE aNy DiFFereNCE
bc it’s just as shitty if not worse 🤷🏾♂️
Don't trust RT.
@Jason Wilson they don't say the truth.
@Jason Wilson and money from the people who pay them, they and IGN must get along so well.
@Jason Wilson Disney as well.
Don't also forget that Batman was weird and seemed useless and helpless in the Whedon Cut, whereas in the Snyder Cut he was epic.
Josstice L made Batman like David Brent of The Office. Just talk, talk, talk, but practically useless. At least, David Brent was an understandable character & pretty funny than whoever Josstice L's Batman was.
@@P.Whitestrake was?
You can only do so much with what you’re given. Characteristically, there’s things that BW/Batman wouldn’t do. For example, Bruce would’ve visited Barry as Batman, not as Bruce. Whole scene could’ve been the same, just in his suit.
The difference is night and day and it'll never make sense to me for why they didn't give Zack Snyder a mostly-free pass to do as he wishes. His universe and vision had a start and a finish. Yes we want a lot of movies, a shared universe and team ups, but we also don't want it to senselessly drag on and on. Three phases, max. Then reboot the whole universe, w/ or w/o Snyder. WB messed up really badly by not listening to the fans and by not backing Snyder's vision!
I'll never understand how any executives ever thought ANY of Whedon's changes were better.
My headcanon is that the wheadon cut events were erased during crisis on infinite earths
I believe that the Whedon cut AND the Snyder cut are BOTH CANON. Film Theory did an excellent vid on it. What if the Whedon cit leads to the Knightmare future, because they didnt kill Steppenwolf? This leads possibly to the Flash movie and Flashpoint, where Barry resets the timeline by warning Bruce in BVS. In my mind:-
Timeline #1:- MoS, BvS (without Barry warning Bruce), Joostice League, Aquaman, Knightmare, Flashpoint
Timeline #2:- MoS, BvS, Snyder Cut, Aquaman, Shazam
@@RukasuShiota I have another theory, these two movies take place in different earths
@@bassmantjox1299 an interesting one
@@RukasuShiota I have another theory, these are two separate movies that don't correlate with each other
I love that superman dawned the black superman suit
The black suit reminded me of zod's. Impactful.
@Isaac Altman how so?
@Isaac Altman The suit is supposed to recharge him after he is resurrected. Its the whole purpose, and why he wears it. When he was resurrected, he was very weak (comparable to when he was alive), even if he could take on the league on his own. The suit has a story and a meaning. So no, not pointless.
I think its just a traditional kryptonian suit
@@zechariahsmith9347 yes and no,His Black Suit Absorbs More Sunlight,That’s why he Manhandled Stepphenwolf So easily
Can I also say that when Barry stopped time then that epic soundtrack kicked in I genuinely started to get chills. It's executed so well.
I love hearing the *Ancient Lamentation Music* you added when WW pops up on screen
I love how he plays the new Wonder Woman theme every time she's on screen
😂I didn’t notice the first time
Same-
I’m sorry if you’re joking. I don’t really get jokes. But yeah it’s just a little overused.
Bruce to Alfred: “Faith, Alfred. Faith.”
Bruce to WB: “Faith, WB. Faith.”
WB should really take Bruce’s words tbh.
The part with cyborg helping the single mum meant a lot to me as it reminded me of my mum growing up. As a single parent she did everything for me and my sister and I really wish she could get some financial luck sometime, she deserves all the happiness in life.
"Eric, whatever happens, I want you to know. This video was one of them, Eric. One of the best of the best."
Lol thanks so much buddy. 😂
I just want to point out the SMOOTH musical transition this man uses for the "batman recruits flash" scene, where he does one song and then it goes into Flash's theme music.
Nice job, Eric, your editing is on-point.
Thanks Will. I always try to do that with the music in all of my videos. It takes A LOT of time though to edit do I'm glad you noticed it. 😉
@@EricCarter12 No problem man. You’re one of my favorite channels relating to movies, and I just love the Flash’s theme in this movie, so it’s something I naturally noticed. Have a nice day and thanks for taking the time to respond.
Will do. Thanks. And your very welcome. 😊
@@EricCarter12 hey eric why not the snyder cut vs an avengers movie you want
1:15
"Everybody wants a box of chocolates"
I'm dying 🤣🤣🤣
This is what always turned me off at the Intro :(
Isn't it the original lyrics composed by the same guy who sings hallelujah?
@@YatsuRL Yeah both are Leonard Cohen songs. Honestly I liked the intro in Josstice League though. I thought it was a good song to reflect how everyone is in a world without Superman. Don’t mistake that statement as a defense for that movie over the Snyder cut but I won’t pretend that I didn’t enjoy some elements of the theatrical version if if they aren’t as good.
I hate that song 😂
Well he's right, who wouldn't want a box of chocolates
Thank you for making this video Mr. Eric Carter!
The reason why I loved infinity war and endgame was because of the Russo brothers age of ultron and the first avengers feel like mid tier comedy action movies while the Russo brothers and zack Snyder make their movies more comic book action and more detail than corny quick cheap explanations like whedon. I hope more people see that whedon is a mid tier to low tier director
The Wonder Woman music is a nice touch.
Thanks. :)
@@EricCarter12 Strong female character done right
@@PrincessMavenKittyDarkholme naughty dog should take some notes *COUGH* oh man I have the sickness from the game that has the most dog shit sequel
@@pokochoco5931 .
That music was aggravating in movie as was alot of it
In the josstice league : Stephen wolf dies from his own minions
In the Snyder cut : Gets punched and punched and get Heat beamed by one of the strongest Heroes in the universe and still survives
4 hours of snyder cut is not enough! Watched it 3 times already, gonna watch it again on Xmas.
Thank you for this CZcams video , I sadly feel like they destroyed my childhood with the Joss Whedon version of the Justice League I had all my hopes put into one box and they crushed it Zack Snyder's dream isn't dead in my heart I love his version of the dceu we need to stand together and keep his vision true
Comparison
Josstice League : a boring mess
ZSJL : damn near masterpiece
I'm telling you, we will keep discovering more layers in this movie. It will age like wine.
It pretty much is
Barry's "I need friends" line was a symptom of Barry still not being able to take control of his life and future at the start of his character's arc. Batman appears to him at his home uninvited. Batman asks him to join the team. And without question or consideration he accepts what was offered to him.
In jail his father tells Barry he can't keep running in circles, which metaphorically was exactly what Barry was doing during the final battle. He was running in circles only to get worn out, shot down, and ultimately fail.
It was only then that Barry truly took control of his future when choosing to risk his life by running straight into the void/explosion. At the start of his character arc Barry said he needed friends, but by end it was his friends who needed him.
NONE of this was in the 2017 train wreck. IMHO what WB and Joss Whedon had done to the first ever Justice league movie was a crime against film history.
There was another comment saying that you can see Barry thinking in a flinch because he can slow time. Or that his speed force sound effect was there.
bruh this is deep AF and never seen it that way wow
To be honest, I think we should all be greatful that weeden didn't use half the shots that Zack provided that were better. Because when we got the Snyder cut, we all enjoyed it so much more for it.
When the snyder cut was announced I thought it would just be the same with a few extra scenes, but it feels like a completely different movie
Who had tears while flash reversed time with the epic music ? 😭
I did.
I had already enjoyed the movie very much, but when that scene rolled along, if I had to sum it up in one word, it was breathtaking. And then I realized how phenomenal ZSJL is, and how insulting Josstice League is (I even contemplated whether it borders on sabotage, that's how bad it is). I can't wait to purchase the 4k UHD Blu-ray of ZSJL. Don't get me wrong, ZSJL isn't perfect, but it's damn good.
Me 😢
I hated erza Miller as the flash but that scene welled me up
Nah
@@Pebblebrook its okay ,dont be scared to say your true feeling about the scene
After watching the Snyder Cut,I had a better understanding of BvS and Man of Steel and how it all lead up to Snyder Cut.I actually thought that"Huh.This is kind of good for the lead up"to BvS
Its one of those sequels where the sequel makes the prequel better lol
@@applehazeva2739 Yeah for sure
I love all three films, but ZSJL is the film that definitely improves BvS.... Almost as if everything in BvS was building to something in a subsequent movie. Conversely, Josstice League ruined my enjoyment of BvS in the same way Alien 3 ruined Aliens... Until I eventually got over the disappointment.
@@jtjdrums Exactly this. People gave BvS a lot of shit. But it was leading up to JL.
People complained about Superman and Batman not bieng the ideal version. But that was the point. For the characters to grow from their flawed versions in BvS to their ideal versions in JL.
Had ZSJL been released in 2017 as planned, a lot of opinions regarding BvS would have changed already.
@@kingkiller5325 them not being their ideal version is exactly why i really liked bvs
Brilliant video - and not only do all the characters have arcs in the Snyder version, but even the bloody airplane does!
And now with Gunn's arrival, they've just buried the best thing they've had going since the Nolan trilogy.
I just realized that during the final battle of Snyder's Justice League Batman was fighting the army alone outside, while the others are fighting steppenwolf inside, and flash charging electricity around the town
Yeah, cuz he's Batman bruv
That's means Batman Is stronger than Amazons😂
It’s very clear that all of the people who say that ZSJL is worse than Josstice League are one of 3 things.
1. They don’t like that fans got the movie made. I’m talking to a certain group of people *cough* Rotten Tomatoes *cough*.
2. They like marvel so much. They hate a movie that’s DC and it’s doing well.
3. They haven’t even watched the movie but everyone loves to hate this movie. So they’re hopping on the bandwagon.
And even if they do watch the movie they will go in expecting to hate it. My only hope is they don’t. Like Cosmonaut Variety Hour. He thought he’d hate the movie. But he didn’t. Now I know ZSJL has problems. The runtime, and a certain theme are my only real complaints. I also felt like the scene where Flash rescues iris took a little to long. But other than those nitpicks. The movie is awesome. You can’t tell me that Barry saving a random Russian family is cooler than saving the whole freaking planet!! What an amazing movie.
I like Marvel, and wasn’t too keen on watching the DC movies after them trying to compete with Marvel. But, after seeing this comparison video of the two movies, I am willing to watch ZSJL, and maybe later DC movies.
@@crimz_ I thought it was dumb to bring the entire league in after like 3 movies. Josstice failed because it couldn’t give us their backstory inside its runtime. But because the Snyder cut has no time parameters it can delve into both Cyborg and Flash. I like Marvel and DC almost equally. But this is one of my favorite movies ever.
Dude, its totally okay to like both Marvel and DC. These are VERY VERY different Universes
@@varadbhandare4441 I do like both. I just prefer dc. I just like them better.
Why cant people just love both marvel and dc??
I finally got around to watching ZSJL a few months ago, and I 100% agree. Yes, aspects of it felt pretty slow, but I still fully enjoyed it.
After Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Shazam, This, James Gunn’s Suicide Squad, and now The Batman, the DCEU is definitely putting in it’s A-game, especially after the previous movies that ranged from Decent (MOS) to absolute Dumpster Fires (Josstice League)
Watching after Zack Snyder's Justice league Wins the Oscar for best moment 💪
Flash: make ur own future
Joss whedon: hmm this is trash somehow we better cut this out
*cuts to saving Russian family*
Joss whedon: perfect
Me: WHAT
Snyder cut:
Entire movie lead up to cyborg realizing he’s not a monster and accepts who he is
Theatrical cut:
Entire movie lead to cyborg saying boo ya
Honestly, the Whedon version had a better arc for cyborg.
Edit: 1k likes! How?!? Thx so much! 😀
Which apparently he only said three times in the comics as a whole and is only used in animation
@@evanlight2550 they only put it in the comics because of the teen titans show was popular at the time
🤣🤣😂😂😂 at first i thought you meant it
Just a comedian here, keep it moving
Hahahahahaha
I loved MOS and BvS, so it was no surprise that I would love ZSJL, the night is darkest just before the dawn.
When cyborg screamed out for Barry when darkseid was stepping through, that line, scene, phrasing, everything was just so orgasmic and when aquaman says he wants to see his father at the end, that was enough to make a grown man cry
Remember when Eric ranked the first a 7/10. Those were uhh.. interesting times
Oh Yaaa…😂😂
I’m actually surprised you didn’t talk about Jared Leto’s Joker in the Zynder Cut
Yeah I was waiting for that too
The fact that I didn't talk about him says a lot.. He did ok. Nothing really worth talking about. He did better but I'm still not convinced of his Joker. And he REALLY needs to come up with a new laugh.
Jared letos joker is trash
@@EricCarter12 Also he didn’t say “We Live in a Society” in the actual movie smh
@@EricCarter12 I agree on the laugh, but man that dialogue between him and Batman is actually amazing no lie.
Awesome video !
It's amazing to see the differences
Thanks buddy. :) I have plenty more versus videos on the way. Including a versus video of Spider-Man No Way Home. Aswell as a comparison of ALL four Matrix movies. :)
Thanks again for watching buddy. I'm glad you enjoyed the video. Feel free to subscribe if you want to see more videos like this.
Take Care!
one more thing to add. snyder added even more gravity to the final battle with the looming presence of the anti life equation being on their earth
"Consequences for bringing someone back to life. You heard that, Marvel?" You sir, are spot on!
In the next film, it turns out Steppenwolf faked his death and has been working alongside General Zod behind the scenes. Silas Stone is resurrected by S.T.A.R. Labs and appears in his own spin-off series: "Agents of A.R.G.U.S."
If you also realzie when barry said ready victor he cried no or go when he got a scene of the future
Bruh, bringing back people brought Thanos and his gigantic army to Earth in Endgame
I’m a dumbass lmao who is referring to??
@@mmyers5261 mainly Loki lol, Agent Coulson came back to life for ‘agents of shield’, Thor kinda died in his first film
Almost like synder version takes place immediately after batman v superman the ultimate edition
Whedon version: takes place full year after BVS
That is exactly what I thought.
I was like. “Why are they putting up Superman banners when it is a full year after he died.” But in the Snyder cut I definitely put together it takes place right after
Two Years later, I keep comming back to this amazing video.
Now let's just hope that DC keeps Snyder as a director in order to release more films so that DC can beat Marvel.
😂
I agree with you, The Amulet Community.
Keep dreaming bro
@@karlcaoile7300 #RestoreTheSnyderVerse
The way he puts the lamentation music every time WW comes up is hilariously unnoticeable
Let’s be honest there’s no competition snyder cut is the best
Nah
More like how Snyder cut is better
@@akevomsahungyo9299 Maybe but it’s still not great. Zack Snyder is a hack film director.
@@jimmycevallos4468 thats just your opinion.
@@Seako7 I mean it’s kind of true
0:20-3:30 Love that you used that Remix by L'Orchestra
I was never that bis into the DC movies back then, so when I got into it, I watched both version one after another, like just a day inbetween and both for the first time. It just felt like two completely different movies
The one from 2017 is called 'Josstice League' from now on. That crap doesn't deserve the word Justice in its title
Damn right
@@Bellis17i call it Just Tease League
Dogwater League
Shit League
The first justice league was trash, I loved the zach snyder's one wayyyyyy better than the other one
“Josstice League gets a 1/10”
He did it! He said it! *air horn*
and before he gave it a strong 7/10 lol
@@dosomestuff1949 I don't know if it's because he's a complete DC fanboy or if it's because he liked it the first time.
@@lisagaughan7154 the first time, he said he was being way to nice to the movie lol
@@dosomestuff1949 Then he was too nice.
he even rated suicide squad 3/10.
something's definitely wrong here.
Joss Whedon really had a chance to make a really unique and amazing comic book movie
But he made Josstice League instead
Lol i agree
I like that Zack Snyder decided to fix everything that Joss Whedon didn’t, he even upgraded Steppenwolf’s design and made his CGI Look way more convincing that before
He didn't upgrade Steppenwolf's design. This was the original design by Snyder, you can see it in the end of BvS when Lex was learning about other worlds towards the end of the movie when the special force arrived to arrest him.
@@indrajithk2561 so whedon just downgraded steppenwolf?
@@Whyiseveryhandletaken6942 yeah. He tried to give him a comic accurate design but instead made a whining version of DCEU thanos out of steppenwolf crying "my mother".