Teddy Atlas pulls no Punches on British Fighters
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00:00 ProBox TV Intro
00:58 Discussion about Conor Benn and his potential fights
04:35 Teddy Atlas contributes his view on the evolution of UK boxing and the impact of boxing culture in UK vs US
06:01 Discussion on how UK fighters are perceived compared to US fighters
13:59 Teddy Atlas shares a personal story about Mike Tyson and Frank Bruno
27:12 Discussion about how important boxing culture is and the evolution of British boxing - Sport
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Teddy Atlas has stories we all wanna hear
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@@TheUniversalBoxingEst. And yet someone has the audacity to call you a casual.
Ted Atlas is the kind of man that will never stop eating his words when it comes to boxing
Joe Calzaghe bashed up Jeff Lacy, Randy Turpin beat Sugar Ray Robinson. prince Naseem beat Kevin Kelley and several top fighters, Lloyd Honeygan beat the P4P No.1 Donald Curry, Kell Brook beat Shawn Porter, Tyson Fury beat Wilder 3 times, Froch KOed Jermain Taylor, Lennox Lewis beat Evander Holyfield and Mike Tyson and several other top American 🇺🇸 fighters, Amir Khan and Ricky Hatton has beaten several top American fighters, we are NOT ALWAYS Elite but we have punched 🥊 👊🏽 way above ⬆️ our weight for such a small country 🇬🇧 that is smaller than many states in the USA 🇺🇸 let’s be REAL now
Joe Calzaghe was an exception. He was a great fighter. There r not many to do so. Lennex Luis, hatton, Tszyu, those r some good fighters, history speaks for itself.
You are an idiot. We are talking about having an astonishing career and cleaning out a division and moving up and cleaning out another division against p4p fighters in their primes.
Not one single win or beating an old unfocused legend....
Lennox is the extreme exception but let's be honest, his parents moved to England and had him in England...he fought for Canada in the Olympics...
Out of all the fighters you named, who dominated their era?
Was #1 p4p in the world?
Wilder isn't very good. Lacey was god awful.
Look at Robinsons record on box rec. He fought Turpin a few days after his last fight.
They had a rematch a few months later and Robinson (who fought about 200 fights and had to lose eventually) ko'd Turpin and Turpins career after that was quite lack luster. .
Robinson cleaned out divisions against fighters in their primes. He was #1 in the world.
What division did Turpin clean out?
There is not one current British multiple division champion.
Kell, Khan, Hatton... You hand pick the 2nd tier Americans they beat but ignore the fact that all 3 were ko'd by top tier Americans.
Forch was absolutely dominated by Ward...
No Brit beat Spence. No Brit beat Mayweather. No Brit beat Crawford. No Brit beat Haney.
No Brit is in their league.
Outside of Fury... England is quite bad...
Right now...
Sonny Edwards, Josh Taylor, Tyson Fury, Benn all looked horrible in their last performances.
British boxing is dead dead dead...Fury is the best and he is a joke of a person...
Quick question, other than Fury... Name the best British current boxer, especially in the best divisions?????
You can't answer...
Honeygan is Jamaican...smh and Curry was not pvp #1...
@@pianoblack5885 yes he was at the time and honeygan was british born
@@94462 Honeygan was born in Jamaica. Look it up. But you have been wrong about quite a bit 😂
I ask you... What Brit can clean out his current division... Then move up and win a belt in the division above him?
Like Haney, Shakur, Crawford, Benevitez?
Can you answer that directly without deflecting? If you don't answer then that says a lot...
There are two Brits in recent times that I consider to be elite. Lewis and Calzaghe. Carl Froch was a very good fighter. So was Amir Khan and Ricky Hatton. Calzaghe, in my opinion, was the most elite of all British fighters, and I think he was a top three all time great 168 lbers.
Not a Brit but Barry Maguigan was a European great.
Fury & Naseem
@@RingWrapsBoxingChatsFury hahaha
Lennox was the best of the lot. Arguably the best heavyweight ever
Agreed. Kell Brooke was always way better than Khan but as Paulie said; didn't get the easy road.
None of these guys should bring up the word “ overrated “again , the stick you measure others with , you will be measured 😂
I never once heard him call deontay wilder overrated.... I've heard him constantly belittle Anthony Joshua but never wilder...why is that teddy?....you have States bigger than our island....if the uk was the size of the u.s we would totally dominate boxing 0:15
Actual facts
Cos teddy is a Anglophobe clown
Jousha lost to Andy Ruiz, he ain't it.
Wilder has a worse resume than ksi
@@michaelwilliams7409and wilder ducked ruiz..also AJ beag ruiz in the rematch
I always tune in because shouting at the top of your lungs is more convincing than facts alone.
Malinaggi. All day every day.
@@YomiBazuaye the crew gets semi embarrassed when the shouting starts lol
It kills me that Teddy Atlas can say that British fighters are overrated yet be a fanboy of Tyson Fury who should be exhibit A of anyone who thinks that. To be clear, Teddy Atlas said that Tyson Fury is greater than Lennox Lewis. Fury gets away with murder lmao, to have someone who thinks british fighters are overrated rate Tyson Fury is just mind boggling
This is spot on.
Fury’s skills are shite
fury is overrated as well
I rate Joshua over Fury. Atlas hates AJ.
Can't take opinions seriously of the nation that rated Deontay Wilder so highly.
lol exactly, UK Heavyweights have been so much better than USA heavyweights in the last couple of decades. And the Super middleweights, and light heavyweights, and cruiserweights, and featherweights. And in the amateurs in recent times.
America are pretty poor in boxing as a whole. From super middleweight to heavyweight they have zero champions. And in the lower weights, They are literally only good from lightweight to welterweight
What Americans have come close to beating GGG or Canelo ?
Atlas needs to check stats before he talks because the funny thing is - GGG beat just 3 Brits (Brook, Murray, Macklin) , yet he beat 7 Americans! (Jacobs, Martirosyan, Rosado, Wade, Monroe Jr, Stevens, Wade, Simon)
Does Paulie forget what Ricky hatton did to him? Those headlocks were so tight it moved ur hairline back
British fighters are still overrated!!! Ya always need the judges and referees help
@@tekken946 what does that say about all the American fighters fury,smith,lewis,liam smith etc beat? And that includes beating wilder and Tyson 😂
He did that while being trained by an American
@@BruteStrength99 it's no secret America produces the most talented boxers my thing is these dudes go out of there way to critique fighters from other countries when currently American fighters aren't even fighting. I ain't stupid and I know when someone is saying shit to push a bias narrative. If you don't see it it's because you don't want to
Did you watch the video? He gave Hatton and Khan (who both beat him) props.
Fantastic content!! I’ve been watching boxing for almost 40 years and grew up in Catskill, NY in Tyson’s prime. I love seeing Teddy branch out!
He's so old he thinks its still the 90s 😅... Ameribums are a thing now too Teddy. Get used to it
Fair play to you Teddy !! I'm Irish and living in the States for 40 years and I really love the British Boxing Scene and what it is doing for boxing in General. I was back in the old country a few years ago and was at the Pub on a Friday night. There was all kinds off great fights on the Pub TV for free. Reminded me off what the States was like back in the 70's and 80's. Really Expensive Pay per Views and lack of free boxing on TV is killing boxing here in the US. In Europe the fights are still reasonable priced or often Free. But as good, exciting and often closely matched as the fights are, most of the fighters are not on the same level as here in the States or Mexico. Thats just the Truth. They have improved since the 80's and such but still not on the same level.
They ain’t overrated
They do get overhyped by the promoters and media but that’s the business
One thing I will say is, they fight anyone and are always fighting the best
Only overrated boxers rn are Ryan Garcia and rolly Romero
I started watching British boxing few years ago on ESPN plus and CZcams and what I found it is they do build up certain boxers they think will be good. As example on the British undercards they will have an undefeated British boxer like 10-0 against someone with more loses then wins to build up their record. So when these British boxers have good records it’s hard to know if they are any good? In the USA typically they will put their young fighters with good records against other good fighters. As an example look at the fight this Thursday in Vegas on the undercard of Lopez vs Ortiz. There are 3 fights of good young fighters all undefeated or just a loss against one another which is I see common in USA but very rare to happen in England early in their career
No, they're definitely overrated. Plenty of heart, but mediocre talent.
They get overhyped because boxing has a good following in the UK, so fighters who win at the domestic level pick up a fanbase along the way. The US people generally don’t gaf until a fighter has a world title (unless they’re a serious fan). The “uk” and “commonwealth” belts mean something to the fans over there.
@@shawnerickstad6974 they do that shit in the US too, that’s a boxing thing not a UK thing. They’ll put young 10-0 fighters against scrubs while they’re building them. Look at Crawfords 12th pro fight, he fought a guy who was 23-46, then right after that a guy who was 6-10.
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Brits love their fighters and give them the attention they deserve. Not their fault that the US doesn't care about boxing. You can even see the difference in attitude from fans. Brits go to boxing to party and cheer on their faves. Americans go to boxing to booe.
Americans get everything given to them on a plate in boxing. They have far more boxers than the UK, and get home referees, home judges, the best trainers, best promoters, tv deals. No Excuses for the USA's failures to produce top fighters outside of 135-147
Lennox is an exception
He’s from Canada
To be fair, Lennox only fought in the UK later on in his career. I don't think you can count him as a British success story since he emigrated to Canada as a young child.
I'm Canadian so I love the idea of claiming Lennox@@mikethompson3305
@@HatersHaveOpinion1 He was born & raised in the UK until age 12.
He's Canadian
another great show on a slow boxing news day.
keep up the great work guys!!!!
There have been solid British fighters. Something about British fighters is that they aren’t afraid to fight anyone like most black American boxers who are protected.
Shutup brits get looked at like food over here hype jobs
exactly this clown seems to have forgot in recent times there's been Joe Calzaghe, Carl Froch, Tyson Fury, Lennox Lewis, Josh Taylor, Carl Frampton, Ricky Hatton, David Haye, Scott Harrison, Anthony Joshua, Ricky Burns, Ryan Burnett,, Leigh Wood, Josh Warrington etc. And past greats in history such as Ken Buchanan, Jimmy Wilde, etc.
Protected from who ?
Teddy has now convinced me that he really does have brain damage.
lmao
Atlas speaking truth. I always get so bored watching UK fight cards. No power. Boring same style. There are a few exceptions, but otherwise he's right.
They always fall short when they step up against non UK fighters - and I think it comes down to sparring talent and exposure. They only get exposed to the same UK style - which has become very Carl Froche inspired - with the flippy flappy jabs and fast feet and sort of fusing this with their arm punching brawler style.
Perfect example is Bam V Edwards.
Awful comment
They “always” fall short? Only recently, Fury came over to the US and schooled Wilder, who(please remember) was built up as an unbeaten monster at the time.
Don’t even get me started on Lewis…..
@@possiblyonthepeas1313 truth hurts.
@@richardfairlamb9728 you mean Lennox Lewis? The Canadian from Jamaica or wherever he was actually from? Fury is a bum. HW boxing is at its worse so everyone thinks Fury is good.
@@jasbadsirron6424he was born in London you weirdo
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Teddy clearly doesn’t like the Uk. Set in his views from the Frank Bruno days.
Paulie and Algeri are great
Enjoyed watching this. Many thanks! ❤️
Saying that top English fighters don't fight each other?? What about Haney, Stevenson, Tank, Teo Lopez?? All say they are the best NO one fights each other in the US.
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And Chris !! It’s not that there’s less sports over here, we just prefer boxing than most the others and football ‘ soccer ‘ and F1 are better than American football and basketball haha we like proper sports that compete with other countries and not just in-house sports 😅
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Credit to the other two guys for shaping the argument to a fair direction against the motive of Teddy rubbishing UK fighters. Brilliant Panel!
Brit here. I can see where Teddy is coming from, and I want to make this clear to my fellow boxing fans across the pond. Most British fans don't believe Conor Benn will do anything in the Welterweight division. Most of us are realistic and know an Ennis or Crawford or Haney all smoke Benn with ease.
As far as the British fighters are overated, as a whole, I'd say that's unfair. For a small island, Britian had at one point both champions of the Heavyweight division not that long ago, we also had an undisputed champion at lightweight and multiple champions in featherweight and Cruiser.
Maybe we don't have someone at the very elite like a Berterbiev or Devin Haney, etc. However, we do produce great fighters, just not many Elite fighters like Lennox Lewis or Joe Calzaghe, which come once in a generation.
Don't forget Eubank. Simply the best Super Middleweight in history
You could apply this to the likes of Michael Grant, Jeff Lacey and Deontay Wilder. Doesn’t mean ALL US fighters are overrated.
He ain’t lying
I love this channel.🎉
The love of teddy's life left him for a brit and he's never let it go
You might have a point Calzaghe being the exception undefeated a few top American fighters on his resume the atmosphere and passion of the fans are unrivalled.
Good episode guys 👍
Ggg thought 3 Brits, he thought more Americans
Yeah Willie Monroe jr😅😅😅😅😅
I can tell you one he didn't fight... Andre Ward.
GGG fucked that fight like the plague.
Look at all the divisions and risks Canelo took.
Compare that to GGG who stayed at 260 in an era when all elite fighters cleaned out divisions and moved up.
Ridiculous!!!
yep he beat 7 Americans. Someone should point that out to Atlas!
@@selenkiy8147 why didn't GGG fight Andre Ward?
Why couldn't GGG decisively beat Canelo who was the smaller man moving up to two weight divisions fight him?
Why didn't GGG move up in weight like all the great fighters of his era did to fight Kovelev, Froch, Berterbeiv, Ward, etc???
@@pianoblack5885 Everyone knows GGG clearly won the first Canelo fight and was robbed. And there's no rules on moving up in weight... Froch, Beterbiev, Kostya Tszyu never have moved up either, He must have been very comfortable making Middleweight, never struggling to make weight. Dominating/cleaning out middleweight was his priority. And he turned pro at 25, not 19 like Mayweather his body was basically done growing. It's way more an American privileged thing to be moving up in weights, because Americans turn pro far younger and get shots at titles easier. It's a shame Mayweather didn't fancy that smoke with GGG at 160.
Not overrated we just support our own and treat champions as they should be. U americans are what we in the uk call "glory hunters" only there when your man wins but never there when he loses. Like golden boy with ryan garcia when he lost.
Is Tyson Fury a glory hunter???
A simple yes or no will suffice...
One of your own promotors admitted that until recently boxers in Britain (and America) had slave contracts.
Most boxing promotors are crooks in all nations.
At least Ryan (who is one of our worst in the division) is still boxing. Where is Billy Jo Saunders????
Quick question, name one current British fighter who can clean out his current division and then move up and win a title in the division above him...
The way Haney, Shakur, Crawford, Benevitez, etc can?
If you can't answer directly then the answer is...
"Not a damn one..."
Click bait Ted on the prowl
I have two words for you Mr. Atlas - Deontay Wilder. For a boxing "expert" this man talks an incredible amount of drivel
I'm British and I agree. They are terrible at travelling too. They nearly always get battered in big fights abroad, especially in USA. We try to import other fighters other here, like Mexicans and Americans as stepping stones and they often do us in too.
I'm just being honest, most British fighters get spanked over there, or if not initially they do further down the road like Hatton, Naz or even recently Taylor. How many British upsets of American fighters or upcoming prospects has there been in recent years on American soil? When has there been any big upsets of world champions or pound for pound talent by a British fighter in modern times? Cant think of many if any@@zero_earth
same can be said about some US fighters too tho. In the US a big problem is how some of the fighters are brought up through the ranks fighting softies so when they finally get to top floor they fail horrbily.
Tell that to the heavyweights right now.
I know what your saying but thats the exception not the rule, tell me when a Brit has done what McCall did to Lewis, Ruiz to Joshua, heck even Thompson to Price, and thats just off the top of my head. @@OldSchoolBoxing1
@@zero_earth I'm just being honest, most British fighters get beat over there, or if not initially they do further down the road like Hatton, Naz or even recently Taylor. How many British upsets of American fighters or upcoming prospects has there been in recent years on American soil? When has there been any big upsets of world champions or pound for pound talent by a British fighter in modern times? Cant think of many if any
Nigel Benn initially looked like your typical prototype....then came his clash with Gerald McClellan...& He showed he had tremendous heart and perseverance🙌
he was on the egg diet on that fight
Why didn't he fight Roy or James Toney?
@@pianoblack5885 Which One????...Nigel or Gerald?
@@PatrickHausenfleck-zf4lf any Brit in Roy or James's prime???
@@pianoblack5885 Ofcourse Not! I've said over and over ...."I believe that from over 60 yrs of Observation around the sport of Boxing that Roy Jones Jr. Is the Greatest Middleweight the Sport has ever seen (Athletically & Power wise)...I could care less what the Monzon & Hagler fans like to Spout Out...I have personally even seen Sugar Ray Robinson ..who would have beaten either of them....but would have had a lot of trouble against Roy.
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GGG beat just 3 Brits (Brook, Murray, Macklin) , yet he beat 7 Americans! (Jacobs, Martirosyan, Rosado, Wade, Monroe Jr, Stevens, Wade, Simon)
I’m not picking a side here. But top 10 pound for pound fighters ring magazine
1. Crawford USA 🇺🇸
2. Inoue Japan 🇯🇵
3. Usyk Ukraine 🇺🇦
4. Canelo Mexico 🇲🇽
5. Beterbiev Russia 🇷🇺
6. Bivol Russia 🇷🇺
7. Haney 🇺🇸
8. Spence USA 🇺🇸
9. Tank USA 🇺🇸
10. Teofimo 🇺🇸
And considering some people thought Loma won against Haney
Honorable Mention
Lomachenko Ukraine 🇺🇦
Eastern European fighters seem to be strongest in Europe right now
Teddy is just being Teddy. The reason why I watch. Cheers mates!
boxing history with this one
Paulie made a very good point about the culture in the UK for boxing. The fighters over here are promoted and built up fast due to the smaller nation we're. So the fighters that are getting the hype could be a B level fighter, and due to the hype, they're labelled overrated
Yeah, B-level, not like recent USA champions Jarrett Hurd, Tony Harrison, Julian Williams...
Carl Froch - hall of fame
I will love to see Carl VS Jake Paul.
Just to see Jake knocked out.
In a smaller pond they’re bigger fish- translation In a bigger body of water they don’t exist Teddy speaking pure facts deal with it Mate!!
Teddy atlas is beyond funny😂😂😂😂
I’m Mexican and I always think highly of UK fighters, lots of heart and grit.. teddy is a certified hater.
I detect no lies😂
They are not overrated its just that boxing is huge in the UK unlike in the US right now and hence we are always talking about boxing and our fighters so the hype is higher.
I totally agree teddy! Don't let these people intimidate you.😅
Teddy's drunk. GGG fought 3 Brits. He beat way more Americans the madman.
The louder you shout, the more convincing you are
Get in there paulie !!
Agree to fight, on social media… lmao
Besides Fury I'd say the best UK fighter right now is Leigh Wood.
If only wood would get rid of the haircut that looks like the hair on my nuttsack
I enjoy watching British fights also but I agree 100% with Teddy and I started watching fights over in England few years ago on ESPN plus and CZcams. They definitely don’t have as many talented fighters but what I find funny is how they build up records of certain fighters. The undercards are horrible as they will have a fighter with good record fight another guy with many more loses then wins consistently to build up their record. Look it up as I watched a fight on the undercard of a fight in London last year of a British fighter 11-0 fight against a guy 3-98. When they announced the guys record all they said is this is his 101st fight, I couldn’t believe it lol and when the undefeated fighter won he celebrated like it was a big achievement. Now look at the undercard of fights in North America they will put up undefeated fighters against other undefeated fighters early in their careers to actually see who is the legit better fighter. Just look at undercard this Thursday on ESPN in Vegas of Ortiz vs Lopez fight and young fighters with all good records fighting each other. There are some good boxers in England but it’s hilarious how they try build up so many boxers with good records against horrible competition and when they fight someone actually good they get beat
I don’t agree. Generally speaking, they have much more competitive fights before getting to the world title level. English title, British title, European title etc.. The guys fighting for those titles are often on a similar trajectory. Where in the US the first competitive fight you have might be the one before the world title fight…
Look at wilder as example of how bum US fighters are protected
Overrated is a strange argument, especially when boxing popularity enters the conversation. It kind of becomes a "per capita" argument. Yes, boxers/boxing is more popular in the UK - an "average" fighter can get press in that environment where the same fighter wouldn't even get a glimpse in the US, simply because there are more boxers (and always will be) in the US - this is just a statistical fact based on population numbers (67 million UK v 335 million US). Which group is "better"? All arguments are moot unless they get in the ring and fight. People can speculate all they want - prove it. IMHO, as far as "overrated" goes, US fighters are clearly more overrated because of hype, publicity, protection, etc. US "creates" more undeserving "champions" than any other country, period.
quality analysis on ProBox 4sure. plus i was at the najee lopez fight
Ted is always talking about how some boxers are overrated
His list includes all A list fighters
And he praises boxers we haven’t heard of. Obviously he’s getting paid by Top Rank
Love Teddys stories
Very fair points but Joe Calzage was most underrated technically welsh middleweight champion ,i personally think ever
I'm old enough to remember when boxing team GB beat team USA 10/0. Not bad for a little island..😅
The same phenomenon that happens with British superstars happens over here in the states, like Fury taking so long to fight Usyk and never fighting Joshua. Tank not fighting Haney or Shakur. Crawford not fighting Ennis and arguably fighting Spence too late.
Outside of Tyson Fury... Can anyone name a British fighters who is elite in his division and who can move up and win a title in the division above him??
Like Haney, Shakur, Crawford, Benevitez, etc?
The fact that this comment will go unanswered says a lot..
The answer is...
Not a damn one.. 😀
@@pianoblack5885 Carl Frampton, David Haye, Joe Calzaghe, Ricky Hatton, Ricky Burns all were multi weight world champions. Btw Benavidez isn't. And Froch, Josh Taylor, Lewis, Benn Eubank, Mcguigan, Scott Harrison etc were certainly elite. And there's been many other greats in the past like Buchanan and Wilde. Fix up your boxing knowledge.
A lot of facts stated by you guys..The stereotype I’ve always found somewhat accurate is that British Boxers aren’t power punchers or flashy..but are usually fundamentally sound. Made better for the amateur style, headgear, bigger gloves. Ben Whittaker will change everybody perception though. He’s super talented
Teddy means Canelo building his record on Brits surely and not GGG.
GGG built his name smoking Americans. He beat far more Americans than just 3 britons.
Teddy has a short memory i guess hes forgot about lenox,joe calzage,hatton, khan, brook,ben,eubank snr and they must be more im missing but wev had some good champions coming from a tiny country put some respect on uk
America is about 30 times the size of the UK, so of course there’s going to be more of a chance of producing more elite level boxers. It’s not fucking rocket science. Teddy Atlas speaks with a real attitude problem about fighters, but did he even fight pro himself!? If he did, he certainly didn’t have a noteworthy career. The man needs to slow down and check his attitude.
Fury’s resume minus-Wilder is looking funny in the light especially given that Joseph Parker beat Wilder easily and AJ dominated Wallin
Eubank Jr. essentially couldn’t get his career off the ground at middleweight or super middleweight due to his fighting style identity crisis
Conor Benn got busted for banned substances
Jonas got washed by Mayer and gifted a decision, Beterbiev stopped Anthony Yarde and Callum Smith
UK boxing outside of Anthony Joshua has been taking a lot of Ls but it is still one of the best hotbeds for the sport
Especially a sport declining in fan interest in the US due to inactivity, failure to make the big fights when the fans want to see them, and poor marketing / promotion
Ken Buchanan, Lewis and Joe Calzaghe are the 3-standouts.
Ted Kid Lewis, Jimmy Wilde, Carl Froch, Tyson Fury, Bob Fitzsimmons are up there with them
@@selenkiy8147 Jimmy Wilde, well said m8
@@selenkiy8147 I'm Welsh and utterly disgusted to this day with what happened to Jimmy Wilde. Mugged at Cardiff train station, beaten and spent 4 years in hospital, died and then his wife shortly after. Twats.
Carl “The Tooth” Williams was a beast too
Ricky Hatton absolutely smashed Paulie
Pacquiao smashed Ricky Haddon
paulie was never a top boxer lolol
@@narutopelone7440 whats that got to do with USA?
@@selenkiy8147 Uk fighters getting whoop by everyone is my point
@@narutopelone7440 Uk are better than 95% of countries in boxing, so if you aint from one of a select very few, you aint gonna have much to say, so you need to either shut your mouth or fix up your knowledge on boxing, Because the UK always has current world champion and non stop top talent coming through, the talent train never stops.
The normal level ones get hyped forsure
You are right
I agree
I think the British boxing public already kind of knew that Frank would have trouble against Tyson. Not only was Tyson blasting everyone out but there was the Jumbo Cummings fight where Frank was out on his feet and also the losses against Smith and Witherspoon. It's interesting that there was this earlier sparring session, no wonder Frank looked fearful.
Anyway if you search for "Frank Bruno v Jumbo Cummings (full fight) Boxing" and go to 8:47, you'll see the moment. That punch would have knocked out a horse. In my opinion Frank actually has a good chin, he would get hurt and lose to cumulation punches where he didn't know how to defend himself with the hands going down.
The thumbnail says UK fighters are overrated with a picture of Fury, yet no complaints about Fury - just Teddy and some guy trying to discredit Canelo & Triple G's resume instead.
I tuned out at 17 minutes.
what about Joe calvagaze
Only good win was Jeff lacy and old beat a old Benard and Roy honestly
@shardstraws1 are they the only 3 people you know?
never heard of him
@@TonyDracon guys are doughnuts with no clue what they're on about
The most overrated of them all
He's wrong if, as a % of the population of fighters is taken into account. If they were 6x as big, they'd be considered dominant. Same for the Irish.
Atlas sour the best heavyweight the US has had to offer since Holyfield is Wilder 😂
😂😂😂😂 yep like Larry merchant said after Fury smoked Wilder 3 times. ...'' Deontay Wilder is the last Great Black Hope for america''
Do me a favour Theodore.....
It's like comparing David to goliath in boxing terms Britain boxes way above It's weight and for that reason alone should get credit dominant in the heavyweight division in the last decade..
UK have been way better than USA in all the higher weights in recent years.
super middle weight has usually ben dominated by Brits too, and Featherweight is Brits and Mexicans dominating
Don't knock snooker Teddy! : )
Well I guess by Teddy's logic, Golovkin is not that great if his resume is stacked with overrated British fighters :D
GGG's resume has 3 Brits and 7 Americans on it ;)
"There's some light heavyweights over here that are talented that you haven't heard about like those guys". Yeah because they haven't won Olympic medals like Buatsi has Teddy. And it's not like it's just because there's so many Americans in front of them either. The finals in those Olympic games were contested between a Brit, Cuban, Frenchman and a Kazakh.
lol American light heavyweights have been terrible for many years. boxing fans have heard of them and forgot about them because they all got smashed by Russians and Brits. American light heavyweights have just not been good enough >>> Joe Smith Jr, Marcus Browne, Jesse Hart, Radivoje Kalajdzic, Charles Foster
theres a 196 current USA light heavyweights, thats nearly 3 times more than british light heavyweights, There really is no excuses. And everyone knows about USA privilege in boxing, they get everything given to them on a plate, yet in plenty of divisions like this they just aren't good enough,
The heavier weights with UK and the lighter weights across the pond.
Are UK fighters overrated? Considering the achievements, it's hard to argue that. The UK has produced legends and champions across weight classes. Here's a glimpse at the talent: Lennox Lewis, Joe Calzaghe, Ricky Hatton, Carl Froch, Amir Khan, Anthony Joshua, Tyson Fury, Naseem Hamed, Chris Eubank Sr., Nigel Benn, David Haye, Kell Brook, Billy Joe Saunders, Tony Bellew, Carl Frampton, Josh Taylor, Dillian Whyte, Lee Selby, Michael Watson, Frank Bruno, Joe Joyce, James DeGale, Ryan Burnett, Luke Campbell, Ricky Burns, George Groves, Scott Quigg, Terry Flanagan, Chris Eubank Jr., Derek Chisora, Callum Smith, Daniel Dubois, Carl Thompson, Paul Jones, Shea Neary, Clinton Woods, Ken Buchanan, John H. Stracey, Jack Dempsey, and Prince Naseem Hamed. Each name here has contributed significantly to their divisions, with world titles, unforgettable fights, and moments that define boxing. While no scene is without its hyped prospects, the depth and diversity of talent here speak volumes.
Putting Khan in that first line alongside those greats just looks wrong lol, yeah but I agree 100%
& you missed Ken Buchanan, Jimmy Wilde, Ted Kid Lewis, Bob Fitzsimmons, Benny Lynch, Scott Harrison, Lloyd Honeyghan, Barry Mcguigan, Chris Eubank
Mark Breland didn’t beat Lloyd Honeyghan he got TKOED by Lloyd Honeyghan, it was Marlon Starling that beat Lloyd Honeyghan by TKO…
Glove gate doesn't get mentioned enough. Paulie is the best pundit in boxing. Teddy is great too.
US hall of fame fighters (tyson, bowe and holyfield) ducked Lennox lewis for much of the 90s it was embarrassing. These are the facts
and then in recent times UK has dominated the division with Fury, Joshua, Haye etc
@selenkiy8147 and look how crappie the division is...
AJ crying after losing to a cruiserweight claiming he too big and muscly...how va@inal is that
@@user-yw5vf1uu4i oh yeaaah sure ! because the heavyweight division is always strong when the USA dominates it, but it's automatically weak if anyone else dominates it right?!! lol 'that 'Cruiserweight' Is one of the greatest fighters of the modern era.
I think during the golden era of boxing it was very hard for British fighters to go to the USA or Mexico and succeed. Obviously Britain has a fairly big boxing culture and many of our boxing stars could have a good career fighting in the UK against British fighters or cherry picked overseas opponents. But that was the past. Boxing has lost popularity in the US and so that has helped Britain's standing in the world boxing order.
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