Teddy Atlas: Call Me a Hater! George Foreman is Greater Than Mike Tyson (Part 11)
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Following his fighter Michael Moorer's loss in his fight against George Foreman, Teddy Atlas revealed details about Foreman's resilience and journey to redemption. Foreman had previously been forced into retirement due to a loss to Muhammad Ali. Then, he spent a decade away from boxing, focusing on his faith and grappling with his defeat. However, Foreman could not be at peace without confronting his past, and thus returned to the sport. Teddy, however, regretted being unprepared for Foreman's powerful right-handed punch that Moorer had expected but failed to parry in the championship bout. Foreman wasn't just fighting for the title, but was also battling to reclaim his life. As a result of his victory, Foreman faced his fears and shortcomings, which Teddy believes makes him greater than Mike Tyson.
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Max Kellerman once said something to the effect of ‘If you could combine the physical abilities of the 1970s George Foreman with the mind of the 1990s George Foreman, you’d have the greatest heavyweight of all time.”
Yeah but that is hypothetical… what ifs etc etc
@@zibtihaj3213no it isn’t. He came back at 40 years old and won the belt again. He’s up there with the best ever.
Max Kellerman knows boxing he knows what he's talking about
I never said he is not
Yeah but that is like he is saying..... if “ cus Dmato was alive , Tyson would have been this or that “, if “ Ali did not have the 3 years off, Frazier would not exist “ if this and if that and list goes on and on … what-ifs are endless …. History is what really was …not what could have been
I’ve known this story for decades but never heard it so eloquently told. Well done Mr. Atlas.
STOP BRO! hes literally told this same story over & over & over for 20+ years! all of a sudden he's on Vlad & now its eloquently said lmao
@@coolnerdsclothing6377 I’ve never heard him say it. Old to you. It’s new to me.
i clicked on the replies hoping id see a comment saying this. Suddenly vladfans are acting like they knew teddy atlas @@coolnerdsclothing6377
just youtube search teddy atlas talks mike tyson .. he says it word for word same story hes even been on joe rogan saying the same story where the fuck have you been ? @@SantiagoTwelvePack
Foreman versus Holyfield is still one of the best brawling heavyweight fights I ever seen
George foreman and lennox lewis are both criminally underrated
Been saying this lol
They are both in my top 5 heavyweights of all time.
It’s hard to find moderate views on Lewis in particular. People either really highly rate him or think he was good but nowhere close to greatness. Id say he’s 10-12 all time. Great fighter, can’t quite see him as all time elite.
@@ddc2957 his was of the greatest Ali or frazier would've had a hard time with me he is too technical in the ring
Sorry?
I 100% agree with him!!! Foreman was a monster with pure strength, the best chin in the sport, and a master of many styles.....
Lol
Ali best chin
Name two of those styles😅
@@tizzletizzle8615better than Tyson
@@therumbleinthejunglee name the styles I want to know
People forget Foreman was a bad man. Before the preacher, before the foreman grilled. George was a street guy. Very mean from what I’ve read. Triple OG
He was but I don't think he ever wanted to be. I think he did it because that's what people expected of him. He had a reputation to uphold. Who could've guessed that inside that angry persona, was a very funny, intelligent and humble man just waiting to get out.
He still IS … he is a fraud outside the ring … even Teddy has said that … Teddy is talking about in the ring … that’s different
@@zibtihaj3213 still a fraud why?
He acts like this bubbly friendly grandpa type but is certainly not . In Moore vs Forman legendary nights episode, Moore even said that Teddy told him that he is a fraud .
Others have said similar things
Teddy (and me also) … respect the guy’s accomplishments in the ring but that is beside the point .
Foreman was so hurt by Ali’s defeat and lost identity that he just did not give up and found redemption in his comeback and did whatever it took even if it was putting on a fake persona
@zibtihaj3213 It's possible, but there's nothing to prove it except assumptions from people who didn't really know him and were, at the time, building up their mental approach to beating him.
Noone knows what anyone outside their circles, or even in their circles, is truly like. All we know is what people choose to express.
But I'll say this, it is hard for people to keep the mask from slipping and Big George never has. And he's helped his people, so give him that.
Teddy's understanding of fight psychology transcends the sport.
Big George is a legend. Had he not retired in the '70s he would have been synonymous with heavyweight boxing like Tyson is.
He didn’t retire in the 70s, dude was still whipping ass in 1997. But I totally get what you mean ✊🏾💯
He did retire an became a minster even foreman said it .@mob1662
Foreman is definitely synonymous with heavyweight boxing 🥊, WTF are you talking about??
@@UTP504 “like Tyson is”…anyone that knows boxing knows Foreman but people that don’t even watch boxing know who Tyson is. When they think of heavyweight champs they think of two fighters Ali and Tyson.
It was a loooooong break since he came back and fought till 48 years old. @@Kah-blaze
Foreman was from that old school of Boxing he knew he couldn’t let Moore feel that power yet so he let Moore do what he wanted and as soon as Moore felt so confident he stood right in Formans face and that’s a mistake, Forman showed him why he was the Original OG and lights out
Teddy broke down the Forman story perfectly like he said it was about redemption and fighting the ghosts of his past when he became heavy weight champion again and also the oldest to do it! Remarkable
I have to respect that .
stfu.... teddy is good advicer but at the same time he hates mike tyson
mike tyson knocked him out
Ghosts of himself wasn't the same when he had the fro
Hell, Clay would've destroyed Foreman; Ali, who wasn't the fighter Clay was, beat the crap outta him. You youngsters who believe any of these clowns would've beat CLAY: WATCH THE VIDEOS OF THAT YOUNG MAN!
@ Alan his name is not clay his name is Muhammad Ali call him by his name
I really like what Teddy said at the end about how George ought to do something in the way of motivational speaking. God blessed Big George. George ought to pass some on now.
Teddy told M.M. what was coming. His instructions between rounds are legendary. I've watched that fight a hundred times never gets old. Old P.P.V's are my T.V. Thanks CZcams for all of these classics! In fact it's on again. George's dream speech is legendary at the beginning of the HBO program. Follow that star!
Yeah I remember just before the 10th Teddy telling him that George was trying to set him up.
100 percent.@@meeknuggets4860
1.Ali
2. Louis
3. Holmes
4. Jack Johnson
5. George Foreman
I got Foreman over most fighters lol 😂
Teddy is a very special person, what a dream it would be to have someone with this much wisdom in your life. Anyone who has had him in their life should feel blessed.
Lol
lame
Wipe your mouth
Doin tricks on it
Thank you Teddy ! Our whole existence is based on redemption!
I recall this fight vividly. It was really a young vs old with Michael Moore having much more to lose. I remember being very torn after this fight. George was at the top of his game and super popular. We all wanted to see him win and be champ but it was sad to see Moore lose. Moore was not a bad guy.
Agreed, but that “mean lean grilling machine” he sold us all was garbage. Great commercials tho 😂
@@joojoobawhey, it wasn't bad for like $99 bucks, but yea...😂
@@joojoobaw To be fair they aren't that bad if you just clean them.
im not ashamed to admit , that brought a tear ro my eye , that was beautiful
Foreman is straight up one of the strongest heavyweights in boxing history, physically and mentally.
Physically, I think he’s probably the strongest, Foreman was a true freak of nature.
@@UTP504sonny Liston earnie shavers
@@Darkspotlight28 Physically stronger?? No, Foreman was bigger and physically stronger than both of them.
@@UTP504 foreman himself sparred with sonny Liston and clearly said that was the only ones who punches could move him back and how hard he hit and earnie he never fought so I guess that's debatable but Ali who fought both said earnie shavers was the hardest hitter he ever fought.and said it without having to think a second about it. Meaning that's better evidence than what you presented you just saying it cause you think so TF
@@Darkspotlight28 😂, you’re obviously a damn fool and clearly didn’t read and comprehend the original post, it was about who’s the strongest physically first, then mentally, neither one of us mentioned punching power, yet here you are arguing like I did. Sure, is it possible Liston and Earnie punched harder than Foreman, yes, duh, especially Shavers his right hand was deadly and one of the hardest in heavyweight history. But back to the original point, AJ is physically stronger than Wilder, but he doesn’t hit harder than Wilder. Pay attention.
The only people who rank Tyson ahead of Foreman all time are people who aren't authorities on boxing. So, it's not really remarkable in any way that Teddy also believes what every other person in the sport believes.
Foreman is not just greater than Tyson. He is greater than Lennox and Holyfield.
Tyson was the greatest fighter of the 80s Foreman was never the greatest in any decade
@@staraptorflock3661 I guess good thing for me then that all-time greatness isn't based on arbitrary ten-year chunks. Tyson would be the fourth best heavyweight of the 70's by the way and Larry Holmes was the best of the 80's.
@@bennylevine387You don't know that spongebob
What makes a person a authority of boxing??
George Forman did have a better record and fought better people
Facts, tyson was in jail by the time real competition came around (holyfield, bowe, lewis)
Much better!
@@isaiahedwards6586 wdym tyson fought ruddock twice, tony tucker, frank bruno, carl williams, tyrrel biggs ecc..
This is all true, but his grills sucked though
@@ChristianSt97 B+ guys, not cream of the crop
Teddy has been nothing but true and honest from what I've seen his entire career! One of a kind just like Cus!
I could hear Teddy talk for so long, he just drops such incredible gems of wisdom.
The sheer reverence Teddy has for Big George is inspiring!
For someone like Teddy to say what he did about George, it means A LOT!
I've been saying George Foreman is the #1 heavyweight of all time, all over CZcams, for years.
Looks like other people are finally catching up and feel safe to share the same opinion I have.
HOW is that being a hater ?? Any REAL Boxing fan knows beating Frazier is better than beating LHW Michael Spinks or 40yo Larry Holmes. Those are Tyson's best Wins. Tyson's best accolade is being youngest HE Champ, not who he beat 💯
Yeah
He’s the youngest HA titleholder but Patterson was champion of the division at a younger age.
People who truly study the history of Boxing know that George Foreman is greater than Tyson. To come back at 40 and win the title is something only the greats can do. And Tyson was never close to achieving that in any come back of his
Nobody has done that. I think the only one who comes close is Roberto Duran, fighting competitively until he was almost 50.
Tyson was also much smaller and had to rely more on quickness and reflex to make his style work. Even with experience and skill, his style was always going to age more poorly than guys like Lewis, Foreman and even Ali whose reach could compensate for diminishing youth. I'm no Tyson fanboy, but Tyson did the best with what he had.
@@fighterck6241That's well stated. I think the same holds true for the Fraziers, Marcianos and Quarrys.
My favourite fighter is Tyson but you are correct Forman was greater by a lot tbh
Slim George was a monster. Long arms, power. Hard to handle...
Mr. Atlas had major indigestion in this interview 😂
It's hiccups.
I don’t think Tyson would last longer than 3 rounds if both would fight in their prime. Foreman is probably the most feared heavyweight in history with Sonny Liston. Also Foreman went 12 rounds in his 40's with Holyfield in his prime, While Tyson got Beat like drum to a stoppage in the 11th round.
Young Tyson was a monster trained to beat bigger guys. He would surely go beyond 3.
Bro anyone who thinks Tyson in his prime is standing a chance against foreman in his prime they don't know what there talking about Tyson has a similar style similar to Joe Frazier that would have been a repeat of Joe Frazier George is to strong for Mike unless Mike Tyson knows how to kick George will tear his head off with them big punches
@@xl576maybe if foreman was old I would give you that but on points but both in there prime Tyson would get demolished it would be a repeat of Joe Frazier all over again
@@williehudson4013 not the same as Frazier in any way. Anyway shape or form. Two totally different fighters. Tyson before prison had a chance against foreman as any great.
@williehudson4013 Joe Frazier was not as fast as tyson and tyson hit harder and threw better combinations. Cut it out little girl
One of the happiest sports memories, Big George dropping that right hand and Moorer falling like a Sequoia tree in the woods.
This is rather obvious to most boxing fans - Mike Tyson isn't the greatest heavyweight of all time but he is the most phenomenal. Foreman has more signature victories than Tyson but you can never deny the stunning abilities of the devastating 20 year old sensation.
Exactly
Who is then?
@@brrrrah6027 #1 is Ali, #2 is Joe Louis.
@@BrazenBreeds well, it depends on how you define "the greatest". The greatest sportsman? Ali for sure. The greatest boxer? Ali doesn’t even come close. He was a good boxer, without a doubt, but compared to Mayweather, Tyson etc., quality of his boxing was significantly lower. Boxers get stronger and technically superior with time.
We shouldn’t blindly praise idols of the past only because they come from the past
@@brrrrah6027Which great boxers in their prime did Tyson beat. Yes Tyson had great skill and a great style but you need a good resume to be great and you certainly have to had beaten other great fighters in their prime.
Foreman had a great career, he was the most fearsome fighter of the golden era 70s - astonishing came back after decades to reach the top of boxing again - and he's still cooking now with his grills 😁
He's not lying even if it is biased
If it’s biased then there’s a flaw in what he’s saying
I thought it was an established fact already
No bs, George was better than tyson
@@kareemlayne9258 still doesn't make it a lie
@@bodyandmindcentral I don’t think so
Moorer kept walking into Foreman's right hand all night. The miracle is the fight lasted as long as it did.
I think there wasn't a three knock-down rule, so George knew it was going to be a long fight and boxed accordingly.
Yes, I've heard George say this on many occasions - not sure l believe him 😊@@larryloco70
These clips are great.. thanks VladTV
If Ali Hadn't Thought Of The Rope A Dope There Is No Doubt In My Mind George Would Be Called The Greatest.
The way he destroyed Joe & Ken that gave Ali trouble both in 2 rounds.
Unbelievable
It's not even a bad take. Foreman beat Frazier twice and against Moorer at an advance age after retiring for a decade. Tyson unfortunately peaked too early and lost all his super matches against Holyfield and Lewis.
Tyson never peaked he just lost focus
You say super fights like he lost a lot to be honest only the 2 Holyfield fights was Super fights Lennox Lewis fight he was 37 past his prime Lennox was past his also wouldn’t call that a super fight🤷🏾♂️
Buster Douglas ! Oliver macall used to bust him up in sparring
@@enybrooklyn5482 It doesn't matter if he fought Lewis at an old age. Let's say it doesn't count but it's as good as not fighting Lewis in the first place. At least George fought everyone during their prime or close to it (Ali was a special case of course since he wasn't allowed to box). A boxer who fought everyone and lost is still greater than a boxer who never fought anyone. Tyson will always be the most talented heavyweight of all time (him and Ali) but he was never the same after his jail time.
@@venicec3310 You have a point there. We never see Tyson at his full potential.
I know a fireman who is also a medical technician at Houston Methodist. He is by no means a small man. He met Foreman when he had a surgery done there and he says the man’s fist is the size of a cinder block.
The George Foreman grill is the greatest invention of all time.
Just got one a few weeks ago great stuff
FOREMAN IS GREAT MAN...... AND MY RESPECT LEVEL FOR MR. ATLAS HAS REACHED NEW HEIGHTS.... ALL GREAT MEN... FOREMAN, ALI, TYSON, MOORE AND ATLAS....
"I failed" not alot people would admit that. Something fighters and trainers today could learn from.
Teddy Atlas is bang on the money .. I love this fella I could listen to him all day & night
I've lost count how many times I've watched the Foreman - Lyle fight. Sheer barbarism.
Watch Lyle v. Shavers that was insane.
Give this man some
Water he got hiccups 😂
This guy man
Teddy is always the first person to point out someone else’s shortcomings, Mike is always the first to point out his own shortcomings
And that’s where both of these men are different
Maybe Teddy needs to exorcise his own ghosts about Mike Tyson.
Teddy's a trainer. It's his job yo point out other people's shortcomings. Mike, having been one of those champs, has the job of looking within himself to see what his trainer is telling him about himself.
Mike Tyson was far from perfect, he did some bad things that we all know about but many years on he has changed character, accepted responsibility for his actions and apologized on many occasions for certain things. He also had some shortcomings in the ring during his career when he did not live up to expectations, didn't deliver on the night and perhaps did not reach his full true potential. But I feel it is unfair to constantly take a negative stance on what Mike did or did not do during his life. He achieved truly great accomplishments as a young athlete. He still holds the record of youngest HW Champion ever, even after nearly 40 years. By age 21 he had collected up and unified the title which had been broken up and fragmented into different belts. He had a true love for boxing as a teenager, studied the legends of old to emulate them. He fulfilled the life-long dream of his old mentor. Avenged a brutal defeat of his boyhood hero Muhammad Ali. He defended himself on many occasions as the smaller man against big fighters that wanted his blood. His name "Tyson" had become the number one target that people wanted to take out. He's only seen as an executioner of victims that didn't fight back but that wasn't true. He went into the ring scared on many occasions and had to face adversity from men that did fight back. He just made it seem that way as the "executioner" because part of his art of war was to use the intimidation factor. Mike was not perfect, but deserves more respect from Teddy, but they have bad blood, so it is not easy for Teddy to let go of those demons and maybe never will.
"i graped young girls and robbed old women . I'm not perfect"
Dam bro you wrote a chapter 😂
Good post
Foreman is top 3 heavyweights in the history of boxing with with Ali and Joe Louis
I’m glad Teddy talks positive about Foreman here because before this all I could remember is Atlas saying that George was a con man with a bully persona and he lost to Ali because of lack of character.
I watched foreman fight when i was younger but that was once he was an older man, then i watched the movie and i assumed it would be wack but it turned out to really be a great story and love to hear teddy tell this, he really is a great man
Foreman was too powerful ❤
Of course, it’s not even close.
Amen brother. Atlas tells it like it is .
This is so heavy and most will never understand
Foreman fought Ron Lyles b4 being out of boxing 10 yrs. That’s 1 of the very best heavyweight slug fests in the history of the sport. There were 5 knock downs.
No doubt!! An All-Time classic!
Wasn't there six knockdowns ?
@@scottdean9259 yes, if I recall...over two rounds if I recall as well. A fight for all-time!
Great fight. But it probably should have ended in round 1 or 2, which was stopped after 2 minutes with Lyle hanging on.
@@cockoffgewgle4993 if I recall correctly, George went down afterwards, late in 1 round and if he weren’t saved by the bell he would not have made the count so Lyles could’ve won that fight as well.
IMO, we never got to see Tyson's true potential. Cus died too early in his career and after that he lost a lot of his discipline. So ill agree that Foreman was better but I personally think Tyson had a higher ceiling.
Its unfortunate because I think Holyfield and Lewis were at their prime when Tyson faded. I mean even if he had Cus in his corner and he stayed off the partying and drugs by the time he fought those two, they would have outclassed him, Tyson would have been wrecked from the other fights he had.
Teddy is hard to understand about Mike.. Irs like he’s saying Mike was great in a lot of ways but didn’t realize he had that sorta resolve of an ATG
We never got to see Foreman's true potential either. He retired at 28 and came back at 38.
In his first career he was naive and stupid, and punched himself out in fights. His peak should have been during his retirement.
teddy could live forever. Him and John madden "announcer" are part or my childhood! Love Teddy
This is a very good interview
The love we have for Tyson ain't because he was the greatest. Its cuz he came from the dirt and he was the underdog with a big bite. Mike Tyson beat the odds and he brought hell with him when he did. The peoples champ forever
No speak for yourself spongebob
A lot of boxers came from the dirt. Tyson was a big break through star because the excitement he brought and his obvious talent. And many years later he’s still around and able to talk about those days so there’s plenty of reasons to like him for that now. But that doesn’t make him the best of all time.
So did George literally lol and Floyd mayeather as well( despite the money tag) and a lot of other champs as well
@@KingStreetBrody The dirt he talking about is inner city dirt as opposed to country or suburban dirt. It’s stupid but that’s how guys from inner cities think like it’s all good and safe out there outside the big cities. I’m from the Bronx but I’ve been around seen damn near the whole country so I’m not ignorant like that no more. You don’t gotta be from NY Philly or Baltimore or whatever to have a hard upbringing…
@@ST58432 oh fasho💯
Teddy is trying to rewrite the story. He was dogging Foreman the whole time. It's literally on video
He was on the opposite side during the build up to the fight. This is how he really feels. Imo....
Well duh he had a job to do. That doesn’t mean he didn’t respect the man for his abilities or that he shouldn’t give him credit now
Exactly he’s a hypocrite
@kareemlayne9258 Really? He was working for M.M.. S.M.H. lol geez.
@@DougieFresh13 yes really it’s obvious Atlas has a bias towards Tyson
You can really tell how much Teddy reveres and respects Big George.
I maintain there needs to be a Vlad TV awards at the end of the year....This is a early nominee for inspirational interview of the year.
Of course he is.
Tyson was great but there are many heavyweights above him all time
oh my gooidness
this is incredible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Amen to all that Teddy says. and God Bless Big George xxx
I get where Teddy is coming from, but his diminishing of Mike's accomplishments kind of irks me. He is discounting what a huge feat it was for a scared kid from Brownsville to get in that ring time after time with that fear and doubt in his heart and rise to the pinnacle of the sport more quickly than anyone else in history. He struck fear into the hearts of the scariest men on the planet and had the whole world believing he could walk through walls. You could feel the electricity in the air when Tyson was about to come to the ring because you knew you were going to see something special. Saying Mike never had to actually overcome anything I feel like is completely unfair. Teddy knows what he's talking about and to a degree he's right, but despite his protests to the contrary when it comes to Mike I also feel like whatever he's sipping is slightly spiked with sour grape-flavored Hate-orade
This is 100% bang on 👏🏼
Facts
Mike beat a bunch of cans. The only great fighters Tyson beat were larry holmes who was living in a retirement home and Michael Spinks who was 30 lbs lighter. Tyson never beat anyone GREAT in their prime, he's super overrated.
I agree with you to a certain extent but Teddys talking about the fights that mattered most (legacy fights). Tysons legacy fights were Michael Spinks (w), Evander Holyfield (L but I’m willing to admit that in those two fights Holyfield kept initiating headbutts), Lennox Lewis (L). George legacy fights Joe Frazier (W twice) Ali (L), Norton (W), Holyfield (L), Moorer (W) and if a die hard Lyle (W).
Oh but for Mike Larry was a great Dub but he was aged out a bit
Prime, focused Mike is untouchable
How can you measure that? When was his “prime”? Who did he fight in his “prime”
@@user-ku5hs3ji8k 😂🤡🤡🤡 just watch him
Prime mike only beat bums for the most part and got KOD. Liston and foreman KO him
Atlas you could see the heartbreaking he went through the Moorer fight. Every round he warned Moorer of that right hand of George. Moorer a lapse of concentration and George wins the championship.
Say what you want to say from 3:00 up will give the toughest man alive Goosebumps. Teddy Atlas is the greatest boxing story tell of all times. That man is the Morgan Freeman of boxing. If mike Tyson makes a movie this man got to narrate it. How raw truthful and uncut it would be and pay him and pay him well.💯💪🏿
Mike The Greatest to me dont care what this clown says Tyson was 🔥 aint no one as young as Mike was, was ever on that level
Anyone who thinks Tyson is greater than Foreman doesn’t know shit about boxing
This was well said Mr. Atlas👏🏾
Great analysis by Teddy Atlas and spot on.
Nobody (who is serious and know boxing) think Tyson is ahead of Foreman
Man get out of here with that who really knows boxing. Who gets to determine who really knows boxing?????????
Tyson never beat anybody who was considered to be on his level or greater
Boxing exposes a man's soul like nothing else. Teddy Atlas is a master of the arena. He can identify bum or hero, man or mouse in mere seconds.
He was so calm right till the end … till he knocked out Moore .
Mike Tyson outside of being the youngest Heavyweight Champ ever really didn't accomplish much compared to his peers , He's not better than Lennox Lewis (not even close) nor better than holyfield
Ye outside that its still the unbroken record 30 years later and one of the hardest to achieve. In 100 years Mike Tyson will still be remembered as the most ferocious heavyweight who captured peoples imagination, holyfield&lennox will fade into oblivion
@@majestic8326 that I do agree with no doubt but in terms of All time greats I don't think he even cracks top 50. Maybe low 75. And even that's very debatable
Foreman is better than Tyson in every aspect. A bigger, badder puncher and better boxer. Any version of Foreman would’ve destroyed Tyson.
Tyson way to fast
@@donaldstreaty5259 Tyson’s has speed but according to his resume, that didn’t account to much with heavy opposition. There’s a reason why Tyson’s handlers avoided Foreman during the 90s. Tyson’s style was similar to Frazier… We saw how that went.
@LiquidScorpion foreman couldn't beat lou saverese which mike destroyed him 90 secs
@@kennykross3306 Styles make fights. Lou has a style that prevent Foreman from doing the deed. Also, Foreman always had trouble with tall rangy fighters. Foreman would eat Tyson like skittles because Tyson’s style permits it. Think of what Foreman did the Frazier.
The slow moving shuffling George Foreman
🥊 🥊 Teddy Atlas, Master Explainer.
Agree totally.
Teddy tells it like it is, special man
Teddy told Moorer EXACTLY what was coming If you haven't seen it please watch that fight
Teddy is right, except about the grills 😔 I expected so much more when I bought one off that infomercial, still salty about it to this day
Most people love their grills.I do.Which one did you buy?The bigger ones are the best.
right-on brother... I actually switched channels about mid-fight as George was beginning to look like he was going to get badly embarrassed.......then I turned back, and the fight was over, and Foreman had done the near impossible! Shame on me... but for me that's right up there with Nolan Ryan throwing two more no-hitters to add to his own record in the early 1990's in his 40s
Damn I fucking needed that this morning!!!! Thanks for the great content!
He should narrate boxing documentaries lol he’s good
Respectable opinion by teddy atlas that’s how he feels George Foreman was a great fighter powerhouse he won the belt at an older age but Tyson was young getting busy in that ring
Teddy needs to let it go with Mike . I truly believe that if he didn’t have something against Mike he would have a different stance on him . Teddy will never let it go
You need to let go your worshiping of overrated rapeo
I thought that was common knowledge. Especially with the greatest comeback ever
Foreman actually beat the count against ali and got up and walked off
Call me a Hater!!!-my quote for the year
Teddy maybe the smartest man in boxing I've ever heard.
You can tell he HATES Tyson 😂. Give him the 🎤 and he’ll shit on him any chance he can get.
Foreman story is crazy nobody can’ do that
Forman truly built differently. Seriously
Can't argue with a mad scientist in boxing
I never thought about that, George in his prime was the boogeyman just like Mike and he came back in his later years and was still dominant but I’d still pick Mike but if George never retired in his prime it could of been him in that discussion
@@williehudson4013No foreman would get knocked out. 1987 tyson knocking anybody out
@@williehudson4013 not a chance prime tyson had the best defense too just look at his highlights he wouldn’t have gotten rocked by ali like foreman did nobody touching tyson in his prime
@@jay2k480 shut up because he was only dominant to people who were afraid of him people who didn't fear him gave him trouble Mike has power and speed foreman has boulders and fought tuffer people than Mike Tyson was fighting C level guys compared to the 70's guys so he's not immortal he can be beaten and he was already exposed so get your facts straight
@@williehudson4013 correction tyson in his prime was a freight train all the best fighters ducked him in his prime and waited until he was less disciplined and older to fight, they didn’t want a blemish in their career that early and a 80s tyson would of did just that and they knew it and when it comes to foreman jimmy young studied how ali beat a prime foreman and he did the same strategy and won had he came back and fought it would of shown but he retired in his prime so what does that say in this discussion tyson > foreman
Lol. Mate, Tyson ducked Lewis in his prime. He paid Lewis to avoid fighting him. And ducked Old George in the 90s.
Foreman never in his career took beatings like Tyson took against Lewis, Holyfield and Douglas. Foreman was only ever genuinely hurt in the Lyle fight, and he won that.
Tyson could have outboxed Old Foreman and won on points, stayed away from him and his power, like Morrison did, but if he fought his usual style he'd have likely been KO'd. Tyson was small guy, Foreman was a giant and a physical freak.@@jay2k480