"Boots" Ennis now has the IBF title, Teddy Atlas, Paulie Malignaggi and Chris Algieri discuss

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  • @ProBoxTV
    @ProBoxTV  Před 6 měsíci +111

    Hit that like button if you think fighters should earn their belts

    • @CarlitoWay-xq6iv
      @CarlitoWay-xq6iv Před 6 měsíci +2

      Love this channel because is the only one that keeps real

    • @Brother_Sean
      @Brother_Sean Před 6 měsíci

      Most definitely!

    • @jonfriend9329
      @jonfriend9329 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Damn 😔 are we mourning?

    • @jonfriend9329
      @jonfriend9329 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Healthy base pay 4 every fight.
      Bonus pay for fights against fighters ranked 10 or better
      Final bonus for fighting in a championship fight as champ or contender
      Would that b a possible start? Seems like dominant every1 would make a living & dominant champs would make a fortune.

    • @jonfriend9329
      @jonfriend9329 Před 6 měsíci

      Boxing is now tick tockers buying ppv’s to use how embarrassing our sport is to make viral before & after videos of our blunders & then market them to kids that don’t watch boxing either, but they do watch…whatever an ‘influencer’ will do. So 🤷‍♂️👍🤦‍♂️😒 is my range of emotions rn

  • @damionbrown5007
    @damionbrown5007 Před 6 měsíci +119

    Finally a boxing channel that keeps it real

    • @tellusaboutthatboxing
      @tellusaboutthatboxing Před 6 měsíci

      I'm coming too!

    • @dmitch9362
      @dmitch9362 Před 6 měsíci +8

      Partially. Canelo was also allowed to duck mandatories and hold his belts years

    • @vegeta5658
      @vegeta5658 Před 6 měsíci

      Check out IBFP and Ring IQ there the most unbiased boxing channels, they go by facts not feelings 🥊

    • @Box.N
      @Box.N Před 6 měsíci

      You late to the party

    • @300nj
      @300nj Před 6 měsíci

      Check out show bizz the adult he has a great boxing chanel. And also Shawn porters. The porter way

  • @bahlsdeepe868
    @bahlsdeepe868 Před 6 měsíci +49

    Chris's analysis of the powers who run boxing was spot on💯

    • @aron.gortman
      @aron.gortman Před 6 měsíci +1

      And yet in other videos he's the company man.

    • @itzerisadomeeiot4980
      @itzerisadomeeiot4980 Před 6 měsíci

      those knock down made chris wake upp to analysis mode 😂

    • @bahlsdeepe868
      @bahlsdeepe868 Před 6 měsíci

      @@itzerisadomeeiot4980 Nothing but haters in the replies🙈Drinking all that hatorade

    • @itzerisadomeeiot4980
      @itzerisadomeeiot4980 Před 6 měsíci

      @@bahlsdeepe868 its not hate my boi... its fcken true

    • @bahlsdeepe868
      @bahlsdeepe868 Před 6 měsíci

      @@itzerisadomeeiot4980 All I smell is hate...As you sit on your mothers couch in the basement🤣

  • @Greenart71
    @Greenart71 Před 6 měsíci +52

    Outside of one champion per division, the significance of holding the title of "champion" is diminished a bit. It just is, by default. Having 4 champs per division is absurd when you think about it.

    • @RosecityTone
      @RosecityTone Před 6 měsíci +1

      It’s ridiculous

    • @Kcutthth
      @Kcutthth Před 6 měsíci +3

      a bit?! More like almost completely! If everyone has a belt what makes them special? In a single weight class with a single sanctioning body you can have a world champion, super champion or franchise champion, an interim champion, and a champion in-recess. Not to mention the countless silver, ic, and continental straps. It’s a joke!

    • @RosecityTone
      @RosecityTone Před 6 měsíci

      @@Kcutththit’s corruption!! They just want sanctioning fees ! Theres a documentary on youtube exposing the IBF on how they took bribes in the 1990s from Don King to ranked certain fighters… they been corrupt.

    • @joeblough261
      @joeblough261 Před 6 měsíci +2

      I call anyone who isn't the lineal champion of the division a "titlist". Occasionally the lineal champ isn't the real champ, or at least there is some dispute, which is where the real quality super fights happen between two champions in the same division. But this modern era of boxing is so bad, I'm worried that in 10 years, it won't even exist

    • @joeblough261
      @joeblough261 Před 6 měsíci +1

      For anyone out there that hasn't signed Teddy petition for a national commission, please do! Help save the greatest sport in the world!

  • @Greenart71
    @Greenart71 Před 6 měsíci +53

    Paulie is right. The business of boxing has never had integrity.

    • @tristhekid
      @tristhekid Před 6 měsíci +1

      Because as Paulie says, it’s a business. Capitalism has no integrity and I love capitalism but it doesn’t have integrity

    • @josephsmiley1
      @josephsmiley1 Před 6 měsíci

      This is why it's dying, too much room for corruption, bribery, bias etc.

    • @damondelgado4603
      @damondelgado4603 Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@@josephsmiley1like CANela is doing rn. Hes ruining boxing, because he makes it all about money and ducking.

    • @houston5544
      @houston5544 Před 4 měsíci

      Business itself is cut throat period, boxing isn’t any different

  • @garnetsamuel5320
    @garnetsamuel5320 Před 6 měsíci +19

    Are you guys gonna keep tge same energy with Tim zu getting a email belt?

    • @bookstore101
      @bookstore101 Před 6 měsíci +3

      Nobody loss the energy but the notable difference is Charlo moved out of the weight class… plus he had the belt much longer than 3 months. Crawford has a mandatory in from of him that he was obligated even before getting the belt. I say all this, knowing your emotions will prevent you from seeing clear logic but it’s the truth.

    • @Supersupremegang
      @Supersupremegang Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@bookstore101
      Crawford said he’s not fighting Ennis and doesn’t have any interest in fighting him. After the Spence rematch is done, he said he’s not fighting him. I don’t see the big deal lol

    • @d.j.sen-gee5900
      @d.j.sen-gee5900 Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@@bookstore101Tim Tsyzu is still an email champ

    • @robertbanks6960
      @robertbanks6960 Před 6 měsíci

      Exactly

    • @unifiedfield_thisisit
      @unifiedfield_thisisit Před 6 měsíci +1

      The difference in energy is this: Bud was a unified champ coming off a win over the next best fighter in the division, also a legit p4p fighter. Charlo is coming off a loss 2 divisions up and he looked like $hit in that fight. It’s easier to get energized about Bud because he’s an atg and future HOF-er. Charlo is not. I’m a Tzu fan and a Boots fan. It’s not about them. It’s about the alphabet gangsters and who they’re f-ing with. Your whatabout argument is thin as tp

  • @iandtexarkana4549
    @iandtexarkana4549 Před 6 měsíci +25

    One belt is enough, since too many belts can be expensive. The champ has to pay each organization substantial amount of money for each of those belts.

    • @sallgoodman2323
      @sallgoodman2323 Před 6 měsíci +7

      I find that to be just crazy, like everyone has to get a cut

    • @gsn1320
      @gsn1320 Před 6 měsíci +4

      It’s like 3% per belt so imagine having 4 you’re giving away 120k for ever million it’s insane

    • @itzerisadomeeiot4980
      @itzerisadomeeiot4980 Před 6 měsíci +3

      ​@@gsn1320its business so you need to fight to pay them but its búllll ßht

  • @tristhekid
    @tristhekid Před 6 měsíci +4

    I like Boots a lot but it is unfortunate to get a belt this way. These belt organisations need to grow a spine. Especially the WBC

  • @draco2xx
    @draco2xx Před 6 měsíci +10

    bud did boots a favor, he doesn't want to embarrass him😂

    • @henrymensah3060
      @henrymensah3060 Před 6 měsíci +1

      But hasn’t done a favor to the fans , he should have fought him as boots wished

    • @svgs650r
      @svgs650r Před 6 měsíci +1

      Why, after Ennis was given the opportunity and declined would Crawford giving that guy anything?

    • @Jas_01101
      @Jas_01101 Před 6 měsíci

      @@svgs650rshow the contract.

  • @Fausto410
    @Fausto410 Před 6 měsíci +6

    People like Don King paved the way for the way boxing organizations operate.

  • @ringstinga
    @ringstinga Před 6 měsíci +11

    If Spence had beat Bud Spence would NOT have been stripped of the title !! That's how corrupt boxing is I'm afraid.

    • @StevenPolanco-yp3yc
      @StevenPolanco-yp3yc Před 6 měsíci +1

      Exactly 💯

    • @rambojean4916
      @rambojean4916 Před 5 měsíci

      To be fair Spence had more hiccups in his career to give him a pass for example car crash kept him out for 15 months the eye surgery kept him out a year the negotiations with Crawford took a year bud fought somebody else then came back to negotiations

    • @StevenPolanco-yp3yc
      @StevenPolanco-yp3yc Před 4 měsíci +1

      @rambojean4916 but he still got a pass though they let him hibernate the ibf belts for a year in half with out stripping him

    • @ThaBudCrawfordEra
      @ThaBudCrawfordEra Před 12 dny

      ​@StevenPolanco-yp3yc exactly

  • @capac2
    @capac2 Před 6 měsíci +14

    Too bad Boots didn’t win his first major title in the ring where it counts. He is too good, too talented and deserves better. Hopefully he gets to earn his stripes in the ring down the road.

    • @budgonstopCANELO
      @budgonstopCANELO Před 6 měsíci +5

      He took the route purposely💯

    • @reggiewilliamsel8406
      @reggiewilliamsel8406 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Boots is 31-0 with No Big Name or Title shot, is bcuz he not signed to Pbc/haymon.Boots will continue to be shutout until he forced to sign to a major promoter

    • @capac2
      @capac2 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@reggiewilliamsel8406 yeah possibly, alot of it is having connections as you pointed out. Boxing politics suck lol

    • @jayclarke5466
      @jayclarke5466 Před 6 měsíci

      Boots shouldn’t wear strap till he earns it
      As far as who has Boots fought?
      Who had big George Foreman fought when he took his undefeated record and went for Undefeated Heavyweight champion Joe Frazier s title
      How’d that work out?

    • @reggiewilliamsel8406
      @reggiewilliamsel8406 Před 6 měsíci

      @@jayclarke5466 actually he won the title in January but i get it, needless to say what was the IBF supposed to due if Crawford saying out his own mouth he not fighting BOOTS and the rematch was supposed to take place in DeC.Boots purse should be bigger and maybe that will get someone in the ring

  • @svh01
    @svh01 Před 6 měsíci +11

    The issue is Crawford has a legal obligation to rematch Spence he CAN'T fight Boots right now.

    • @KingQuen84
      @KingQuen84 Před 6 měsíci +1

      I bet if they was at welterweight and the ibf was able to make money off the fight they wouldn’t dirty ass business

    • @svh01
      @svh01 Před 6 měsíci

      @@KingQuen84 according to Bud, the fight is currently set to be at 147. That could change tho.

    • @damondelgado4603
      @damondelgado4603 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@svh01either way is bs

  • @audialiastt2601
    @audialiastt2601 Před 6 měsíci +8

    What Paulie said bout being low on money, struggling with bills from a broken hand, needs to be known by fans. Fighting is not as cool or glorified financial riches as fans think or fighters pretend it to be. It takes so much discipline & blessingings from God to end a fighting career content, healthy, proud, remembered and financially comfortable. Great debate.

    • @coreythomas3633
      @coreythomas3633 Před 6 měsíci

      BASED OFF YOUR COMMENT FLOYD MAYWEATHER DID IT THE RIGHT WAY. SO WHY THE HATE

  • @DanielAlvarez-re1vw
    @DanielAlvarez-re1vw Před 6 měsíci +4

    You guys are the best serious talks and precessional not like these other Chanel’s !!
    Clowns talking about weed and boxing !! And personal crap keep it up gentlemen.

  • @MrTurtle15
    @MrTurtle15 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Teddys chin looks like a speedbag everytime he shakes his head😅

  • @dominiqueleavell6007
    @dominiqueleavell6007 Před 6 měsíci +10

    Thanks fellas we need this 🔥 🔥

  • @charlesn.5501
    @charlesn.5501 Před 6 měsíci +4

    So I've been watching this channel since it's infancy 🚼 .... And It Has Been Getting Better & BETTER!
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  • @KennyIMO
    @KennyIMO Před 6 měsíci +7

    Love listening to all these Boxing experts opinions, its the best Boxing channel already

  • @pizzulo8111
    @pizzulo8111 Před 6 měsíci +11

    The sad thing about Tony and Ruddick is that if you asked them right now, they would both say that they were every bit as fast and as good today as they were in their prime. They are so damaged that they really believe that. It's not just them either. A lot of old fighters think that way.

    • @damondelgado4603
      @damondelgado4603 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Sounds like CANela

    • @kennethjohnson5179
      @kennethjohnson5179 Před 6 měsíci

      I don’t think they believe that. They’re opportunistic because today’s boxers are not that active.

  • @bryandungee1029
    @bryandungee1029 Před 6 měsíci +7

    IN MY OPINION Chris is the only one on the panel that’s always unbiased!!! Gives his honest opinion based on his honest opinion!!! I don’t always agree but it’s truly what he believes

    • @Dash-dd1ro
      @Dash-dd1ro Před 6 měsíci

      Yea bc your biased and your just a salty bud fan

    • @bryandungee1029
      @bryandungee1029 Před 6 měsíci

      @@Dash-dd1ro … huh??? Your ASSUMPTION was not only wrong but it was stupid!!! Never was and never will be a Bud fan!!! Paulie and Tim be clearly biased, Tim with his Top Rank affiliation and Paulie… I’m not even gonna go there but yea, u were wrong dumb

    • @budgonstopCANELO
      @budgonstopCANELO Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@Dash-dd1ro I don’t understand why people think Bud fans are salty or however, you want to put it when he already became two times undisputed because he destroyed your favorite fighter and he disposed of him easily🤡🤣🤣🤣🤣 yall the ones mad casual d rider

    • @benboxingsense
      @benboxingsense Před 6 měsíci +2

      ​@@Dash-dd1roErrol Spence or Boots don't even know who you are and there not gonna share their money with you.

    • @jayclarke5466
      @jayclarke5466 Před 6 měsíci

      Teddy s on point pally

  • @bentlymagazine9645
    @bentlymagazine9645 Před 6 měsíci +2

    This channel is a breath of fresh air for boxing altogether

  • @smokesmitty1
    @smokesmitty1 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Stripped with a rematch clause, they tryna force a challenge on bud with boots cause he pissed the world off

  • @PeterRamirezhhthvdvmmggnjbhbmp
    @PeterRamirezhhthvdvmmggnjbhbmp Před 6 měsíci +5

    Teddy Atlas has Headed right on the nail Both Charlo brothers have been inactive for a while and dating Tuesday belts it’s understandable if Terence Crawford has been inactive but dude he has manMandatory rematch with Errol Spence give the brother a break and boots Ennis gets a free belt he don’t have to fight for it I think that is bull

  • @PeterRamirezhhthvdvmmggnjbhbmp
    @PeterRamirezhhthvdvmmggnjbhbmp Před 6 měsíci +4

    I truly believe that boots Ennis deserves a title match not a giveaway I know in his heart he wantsHe wants to fight for it he wants to deserve it because he’s a true champion

    • @budgonstopCANELO
      @budgonstopCANELO Před 6 měsíci +3

      No, he pursued that specifically he knew what he was doing, and his dad admitted that they already knew this was going to happen,He just didn’t say anything because he was waiting on it to be officially announced, and he was also saying as long as they get a belt, they don’t care how they get it.😂

    • @ThaBudCrawfordEra
      @ThaBudCrawfordEra Před 12 dny +2

      ​@@budgonstopCANELOall faxx bro.. boots a bum who accept handouts and dont want to work for his titles

    • @budgonstopCANELO
      @budgonstopCANELO Před 6 dny

      @@ThaBudCrawfordEra Email Ennis📩🤣

    • @ThaBudCrawfordEra
      @ThaBudCrawfordEra Před 5 dny +1

      @@budgonstopCANELO that's exactly who he is 'Email Ennis' aka Jaron '👠👠s' Ennis

  • @charlesard8639
    @charlesard8639 Před 6 měsíci +8

    Speak it guys. Love it.

  • @TetragrammatonPriest
    @TetragrammatonPriest Před 6 měsíci +4

    If Crawford was on the fence about going up to 154, the IBF just gave him a shove

    • @coreyd6815
      @coreyd6815 Před 6 měsíci

      He was never coming back to 147. Once they said “winner picks the weight” and “winner may face Charlo next”, it was clear that neither guy would return to 147.

    • @damondelgado4603
      @damondelgado4603 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@coreyd6815ibf is bs

  • @lukegen92
    @lukegen92 Před 6 měsíci +3

    I have to disagree with the older guys fighting. Guys like James Toney were incredible champions. They’ve earns the right to dictate when they should and shouldn’t fight as past champions. I don’t think we can watch them sacrifice so much as young men and then dictate when they should leave the ring as retired champions. Of course the monetising of the situation is incredibly grubby (and unfortunately unsurprising). Let them have their autonomy. They may be fighters till the end. Don’t avert your eyes when it becomes uncomfortable. Watch till the end, they love it.

  • @davidparham8054
    @davidparham8054 Před 6 měsíci +17

    What the ibf did to Crawford was DISRESPECTFUL!

    • @ftldontquit4
      @ftldontquit4 Před 6 měsíci +3

      He was never going to fight boots why does he get to do what Spencer did to him?

    • @StevenPolanco-yp3yc
      @StevenPolanco-yp3yc Před 6 měsíci +10

      ​@ftldontquit4 do your homework boots already ducked bud also crawford is obligated to fight spence is on contract if you know anything of business of boxing also bud just woke that belt 3 months ago you mean to tell me errol spence could hold the ibf belts for 2 years euth out defending them devin haney still has the ibf belt and he's fighting at 140 did they strip him but they strip bud 3 months after he became undisputed look at charlo I mean is wrong what they did to bud is bias they didn't want him to beat spence they didn't thought he would do it

    • @altonrogers258
      @altonrogers258 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@StevenPolanco-yp3ycI agree boss!!!

    • @AmphibiousCarbine816
      @AmphibiousCarbine816 Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@@StevenPolanco-yp3ycWell said. Nothing but the truth.

    • @marcusgilmore5211
      @marcusgilmore5211 Před 6 měsíci +4

      @@ftldontquit4 Crawford would school Boots so it really doesn’t make a difference also they should have not stripped him of his title if he’s going to rematch Errol…

  • @RussellScottHD
    @RussellScottHD Před 6 měsíci +1

    It was The Godfather, not Godfather 2. It was Abe Vigoda's (later famous for playing "Fish" on Barney Miller) character Salvatore Tessio who said the line "Tell Mike it was only business."

  • @soleprobe
    @soleprobe Před 6 měsíci +3

    That Tony and Ruddock fight should have been rated PG13 cause they were both topless.

  • @7clovers008
    @7clovers008 Před 6 měsíci

    Great feed!!!.. this is a very very important segment in boxing commentary.

  • @theboxingchannel1586
    @theboxingchannel1586 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I totally agree with The opening from Chris Algieri

  • @ProfessorofTruth
    @ProfessorofTruth Před 6 měsíci +3

    The WBC awarded Ken Norton with the title when Leon Spinks decided to fight rematch with Muhammad Ali instead of fighting Norton. The WBC award Lennox Lewis the title when Riddick Bowe decided to make a couple of defenses and rematch Evander Holyfield.

    • @Priceluked
      @Priceluked Před 3 měsíci

      I kind of always viewed Norton fight against Young as his title victory.

  • @E.Carrillo
    @E.Carrillo Před 6 měsíci +1

    Really good stuff as far as what each had to say. When do you ever hear anything like this on any boxing venue? These topics could be applied to so many different areas of life as well - not just boxing. Thanks guys, and thanks Probox!

  • @cristianhernandez3619
    @cristianhernandez3619 Před 6 měsíci +5

    So why bud never defend his titles at 140 now 147?

    • @JamesBrown-ty5wp
      @JamesBrown-ty5wp Před 6 měsíci +3

      Cause he could be the mantitory the Paxman but Jeff horn beat him..

    • @benji187
      @benji187 Před 6 měsíci

      Exactly coz the chumps know that once you become undisputed & start defending against the #1 challenger for each sanctioning body your chances of losing skyrocket.
      They be like, nah, I just choose my opponents instead.😂.

    • @budgonstopCANELO
      @budgonstopCANELO Před 6 měsíci

      @@benji187tf you talking about that IBF wanted him to fight lipnets @140 three days after he became undisputed and he didn’t have a chance to defend at 147 goofball he hasa contract obligation 🤷🏾‍♂️man you’re a casual I won’t waste another word on you🤡

  • @mikeblack1050
    @mikeblack1050 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Right and Canelo was able to hold the IBF when he moved up with no problems or peep out of the IBF...complexion protection

  • @milhamdabungu7576
    @milhamdabungu7576 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Great conversation. Brilliant and honest perspectives ❤

  • @JamesBrown-ty5wp
    @JamesBrown-ty5wp Před 6 měsíci +4

    And now 3 time undispute champion Terence Bud Crawford

  • @ciphbudd7102
    @ciphbudd7102 Před 6 měsíci +4

    IBF still has more continuity than the other sanctioning bodies.

    • @DjGaiden
      @DjGaiden Před 6 měsíci +1

      They are still part of the problem.

    • @ciphbudd7102
      @ciphbudd7102 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@DjGaiden Not really. The Sanctioning Bodies are a necessary evil for a sport without a centralized governance system.

  • @duriiel9632
    @duriiel9632 Před 6 měsíci +2

    This all makes sense 1,000%!!!
    And has made sense for years, but its weird we have this is a conversation. When boots ennis finally became champion

  • @LifeLoveGod
    @LifeLoveGod Před 6 měsíci +1

    Really enjoying the content fellas 💪😎

  • @Jefferydeene757
    @Jefferydeene757 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I hear rolling papers ruffling when teddy starts to talk 😂

  • @ipaparaymond3622
    @ipaparaymond3622 Před 4 měsíci

    The best content so far. Make it a series issue. Oversight, E-mail chamoions, finance management and education in general.
    Paulie and Chris are intellectuals. Kudos.

  • @jasonwheeler2986
    @jasonwheeler2986 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Damn, this was a great episode.

  • @smokesmitty1
    @smokesmitty1 Před 6 měsíci +8

    Damn boxing hates BUD cause he came from the bottom n beats them at their own game THE HATE IS REAL

  • @peytonsmith-bauer2203
    @peytonsmith-bauer2203 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Saying old boxers get back in the ring out of “desperation” is pure speculative BS. You’re not going to convince me that RJJ and Tyson tough because they’re financially deprived.

  • @michaelparks4409
    @michaelparks4409 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Excellent show guys

  • @chrisventura1881
    @chrisventura1881 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Algeri n Malignaggi know their shit. They stood toe to toe with beasts/animals/monsters that were champions. There should be a uniform boxing commission like NBA MLB NFL..MLS etc

  • @eafalcon1
    @eafalcon1 Před 6 měsíci

    please, more shows like this. the new generations of fans must hear this!

  • @ikeabadom9453
    @ikeabadom9453 Před 6 měsíci

    Fascinating and enlightening. Excellent work

  • @marccreation1052
    @marccreation1052 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Toney is still sparring, he seems unable to quit. It looked like these two guys were honored and No one around the ring was screaming for blood, so this exhibition looked ok. Holyfield in a real fight 2 years ago was not.

  • @freddiewilliams6055
    @freddiewilliams6055 Před 6 měsíci

    Very informative
    Thanks

  • @reaper060670
    @reaper060670 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Really enjoyed this one guys. Great points about this sport I love. I grew up in the 1970's, 80's & 90's so I recall those great nights in the sport. Unfortunately those great night have come now too far and between. It's a real shame hat guys like Mike Tyson, Roy Jones Jr but especially James Toney and Razor Ruddock to have to fight at their age with them being so far away from even half decent shape.
    So with all that u said in mind guys I have a question.
    Q. Why is it that a great fighter like JAMES TONEY is not involved in the sport as a trainer or some form of coaching bcos he was one of the very best I ever saw lace up a pair of gloves. When u watch this guy slipping punches the way he did the sport needs his input to help so many young guys coming in. Why don't the Olympic bodies ask for this guys help in training young kids in the art of defensive fighting?
    My favourite middleweight but really my fav fighter at that time was Michael Nunn. He got stopped on that great night when TONEY knocked him out and after his won the NABF title on his return he disappeared from the sport.
    I didn't know what happened to the man until finding out last year he'd been released from prison after serving 20 odd years.
    Michael Nunn is involved in the sport teaching young fighters now so why isn't a top guy like James Toney doing the same?
    There isn't one of u top men can tell me TONEY has nothing to offer. I respect all ur opinions but u can't tell me James Toney cannot train young guys coming into this tough as hell sport. He should be working with young fighters teaching them the value of defensive fighting while also showing them u can be great by not getting hit and still making a big name in the sport.

  • @toneydefreitas5630
    @toneydefreitas5630 Před 6 měsíci +2

    The IBF doesn't recognize rematch clauses and Crawford is stuck to the contract with Spence. The question is why is the IBF operating differently from the other boxing organizations?? Why?? Who the hell does the ibf think they are??

  • @levarcheatham9586
    @levarcheatham9586 Před 5 měsíci

    I love this channel u guys give very fact based answers thank you for what you guys are doing boxing needs this channel

  • @ciscogj
    @ciscogj Před 6 měsíci

    I love this channel!

  • @timcarter9146
    @timcarter9146 Před 6 měsíci +2

    That 3% everyone pays on each belt should be the pension where does it go anyway.

    • @budgonstopCANELO
      @budgonstopCANELO Před 6 měsíci

      You only said that and know that percentage because Spence said you must be an Errolsexual🤣 #Where does it go anyway lol

  • @Laid2Sleep
    @Laid2Sleep Před 6 měsíci +1

    Oh, they keeping it all the way real today

  • @JohnSmith-bm6zg
    @JohnSmith-bm6zg Před 4 měsíci +1

    Man is strapped

  • @powpow9560
    @powpow9560 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Teddy just drones on and ON and ON

  • @asanchez3571
    @asanchez3571 Před 6 měsíci +1

    If it's going to be like this in boxing they should be no rematch clause because of that rematch clause Terrance gets stopped from his title

  • @JM_Studios
    @JM_Studios Před 6 měsíci +2

    I wanna know how I can also sign the petition?! This should be passed around so we can all sign!

  • @augustuspatrone6790
    @augustuspatrone6790 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Great discussion

  • @user-wj3wc6ss5t
    @user-wj3wc6ss5t Před 4 měsíci

    We need a boxing news channel.

  • @williebateman3613
    @williebateman3613 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Bud can’t be stopped at all 💪🏾💯🔥🔥

  • @timothystoutermire8353
    @timothystoutermire8353 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Tell Charlo Go Get His Belt Back

  • @mr.boxingmoves486
    @mr.boxingmoves486 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Ennis PHUKKED UP when he dropped out of the WBO rankings where he was next in line to fight Crawford he left the WBO to go to the ibf route so it's nobody's fault but his. And by him excepting the Email title he will always be considered a paper champion... Because there are no real challenges at 147. 😞😞😞😞

    • @reggiewilliamsel8406
      @reggiewilliamsel8406 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Boots was ranked #2 in the WBO he was never made Crawford mandatory bcuz you had Alex rocha becoming Crawford mandatory bcuz WBO is ran by BoB Arum.Boots had an opportunity to fight for the IBF and once he won the interim he was automatically removed from the WBC,WBA and WBO rankings.the reality is boots never was going to fight Crawford bcuz its no money to financial cover the fight, who was going to give Crawford his guarantee??Boots is promoter is Cameron dunkin and Showtime wasnt going to put up the money bcuz they DONT HAVE MONEY IN THE BUDGET bcuz of paramount deal.

    • @mr.boxingmoves486
      @mr.boxingmoves486 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@reggiewilliamsel8406 I disagree with you because Vergil Ortiz was the #1 WBO rankings and he left to go the WBA route. Which made Ennis the number one if he wanted to he could have pushed for being the mandatory if he wasn't automatically put there. The bottom line is he didn't push to be Crawford's next fight... What Ennis wanted was the Title. And if he could get it without fighting Crawford he was happy like he is right DAMN NOW. And happy as a pig in slob that he's a champion regardless of the fact that he had to fight nobody to be in that position that is not a champion that is a Belt holder.

    • @ThaBudCrawfordEra
      @ThaBudCrawfordEra Před 12 dny +1

      ​@@mr.boxingmoves486all faxx bro

  • @DanielAlvarez-re1vw
    @DanielAlvarez-re1vw Před 6 měsíci +1

    Awesome conversation !! Godbless all boxers especially the old ones no need to see a fighter go out like that it’s in there dna they don’t know how to stop fighting !!!

  • @eastcoastshine2009
    @eastcoastshine2009 Před 6 měsíci +1

    It was pretty slick how Paulie stated that there's fighters in the boxing Hall of Fame that failed steroids tests shortly before the subject of James Toney still fighting came up.

  • @JLi46
    @JLi46 Před 5 měsíci

    Chris Algeri former 140lb WBO champion knows his stuff!

  • @Lorendrawn
    @Lorendrawn Před 6 měsíci +2

    The IBF thinks Crawford is a money printing machine or smth.

  • @kalillionaireelsantos6713
    @kalillionaireelsantos6713 Před 6 měsíci +10

    Bud should spin the block and regain the belt for undisputed status 🤷🏿‍♂️

    • @PrezAfterDark
      @PrezAfterDark Před 6 měsíci +3

      Sounds like a big fight to me but nooooo we gotta watch Bud beat the snot out of Spence at 154 for zero belts 🤷‍♂️

    • @robertbanks6960
      @robertbanks6960 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@PrezAfterDarkper the IBF the rematch clause doesn't prevent beginning negotiations now.
      Here's the official rules of the IBF
      www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=www.ibf-usba-boxing.com/wp-content/uploads/BoutRules.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiE-cWsvcWCAxWhomoFHbyvADQQFnoECBoQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1yzc4GugUX2rcKL4DFm0T7

    • @MegaJune08
      @MegaJune08 Před 6 měsíci +1

      No he shouldn’t. Just to be stripped again for another lame excuse. Hope he moves on and remember how they did him !

    • @kalillionaireelsantos6713
      @kalillionaireelsantos6713 Před 6 měsíci

      @@MegaJune08 and that's exactly why he should do it ....they can't take 3× undisputed from him then he can vacate to 154 and become 4×

    • @damondelgado4603
      @damondelgado4603 Před 6 měsíci +3

      ​@@PrezAfterDarkspence is stupid for activating his rematch clause. Period

  • @mikelucas3272
    @mikelucas3272 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I watch this channel every morning before work,my fav for sure.I would really like to know what you guys think about Thurman beating Barrios to be number 1 contender for WBC belt then never gets the Spence fight but then 1 year later Barrios beats Ugas for WBC interim title

  • @baoho7293
    @baoho7293 Před 3 měsíci

    Great video.

  • @justme.1st
    @justme.1st Před 6 měsíci +1

    Please post the link for Teddy’s petition for a national commission in boxing for
    oversight & accountability. Thank you

  • @rogerwolfe7476
    @rogerwolfe7476 Před 6 měsíci +1

    In the end it all hurts the fighters and boxing

  • @fallonfoxaintgotnobox
    @fallonfoxaintgotnobox Před 6 měsíci

    great show

  • @MrPhilliptv1
    @MrPhilliptv1 Před 6 měsíci

    You're right, in Godfather Two Tessio did say that, however in Godfather One Tom Hagan told Sonny the very same thing.

  • @roscoestark6589
    @roscoestark6589 Před 6 měsíci +7

    Are you guys ever going to get roy and Antonio back on? Really enjoying the content , you guys putting together a dream team.

    • @Kaodusanya
      @Kaodusanya Před 6 měsíci +3

      I really miss Roy's point of view on stuff. Teddy is obviously a fake and has never actually been a fighter, just seems to love shitting on others.

    • @TheWickedyo
      @TheWickedyo Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@Kaodusanyayou may not like or agree with Teddy but that man has forgotten more about boxing than most, including myself and you would ever learn about boxing. Teddy is qualified to be considered a boxing historian.

    • @E.Carrillo
      @E.Carrillo Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@Kaodusanyathat’s not true, he did fight. He was a golden gloves champ. His trainer was Cus D’Amato. He didn’t turn pro because he injured his back. Don’t speak what you don’t know.

    • @budgonstopCANELO
      @budgonstopCANELO Před 6 měsíci

      Tarver has his own CZcams channel call Tavers Take and it’s one of the best out💪🏾

    • @damondelgado4603
      @damondelgado4603 Před 6 měsíci +2

      ​@@tonysburgers7223teddy is a fraud boxer hater, agreed!

  • @justme.1st
    @justme.1st Před 6 měsíci +1

    I 💯% support Teddys national commission for accountability in boxing. Please sign his petition if you agree, I hope they post the link.

  • @christylumpa4357
    @christylumpa4357 Před 6 měsíci +1

    If I were Boots Enis, I would decline the email title....

    • @Supersupremegang
      @Supersupremegang Před 6 měsíci

      How come you don’t say anything about Dimitri Bivol, Janibek and Tim Tsyzu? Why should Ennis Decline a belt he fought for and won?

    • @robertbanks6960
      @robertbanks6960 Před 6 měsíci

      You make absolutely no sense. Now that he has the belt no one can no longer duck him.
      Here's the official IBF rules
      www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=www.ibf-usba-boxing.com/wp-content/uploads/BoutRules.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiE-cWsvcWCAxWhomoFHbyvADQQFnoECBoQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1yzc4GugUX2rcKL4DFm0T7

    • @budgonstopCANELO
      @budgonstopCANELO Před 6 měsíci

      He pursued it actually

  • @hollywoodsteviet4195
    @hollywoodsteviet4195 Před 6 měsíci

    I agree with this entire conversation 💯%

  • @BrandonWaller502
    @BrandonWaller502 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I love Teddy! 💯💯🎯

  • @Malani41
    @Malani41 Před 6 měsíci

    Send video of this particular show to US congress please

  • @thesocialreport5027
    @thesocialreport5027 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I disagree with the take on Ennis and Tim Tszyu. Although I don't think Crawford should be stripped. But Jermell definitely deserved it. Ennis and Tszyu both were interim champs. That's why they have been elevated. That's been a thing in boxing for a long time and I don't see anything wrong with it. They earned it by becoming the interim champs. If it was a vacant belt, they might have had some low level fighters fighting for it. Like the wba did with Rolly. Id prefer it go to the next guy in line then a bottom tier fighter.

  • @2stroketyson79
    @2stroketyson79 Před 6 měsíci +2

    They are letting Charlo slide for what he had to deal with When he was Canelo's mandatory at 160 for like 2 years & instead of giving Charlo the fight they just gave Charlo the WBC title & made Canelo the WBC franchise so he had no mandatory anymore! Now they are just making up for it with Charlo

    • @robertbanks6960
      @robertbanks6960 Před 6 měsíci

      Per rules no fighter can be stripped if they suffered an injury or illness.
      Jermall wasn't stripped due to mental health which falls under illness.
      Here the IBF rules
      www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=www.ibf-usba-boxing.com/wp-content/uploads/BoutRules.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiE-cWsvcWCAxWhomoFHbyvADQQFnoECBoQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1yzc4GugUX2rcKL4DFm0T7

    • @damondelgado4603
      @damondelgado4603 Před 6 měsíci

      So the moral of the story is CANela is bs....got it.

  • @rogerwolfe7476
    @rogerwolfe7476 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Boots paper champion means nothing hurts boxing

    • @robertbanks6960
      @robertbanks6960 Před 6 měsíci

      Champions who refuse to fight their mandatories is what hurts boxing.
      The only way a fighter becomes an email champ is due to the current champion refusing to fight their mandatories. That's literally the only way.
      Here's the official IBF rules
      www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=www.ibf-usba-boxing.com/wp-content/uploads/BoutRules.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiE-cWsvcWCAxWhomoFHbyvADQQFnoECBoQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1yzc4GugUX2rcKL4DFm0T7

  • @yahooprana2742
    @yahooprana2742 Před 6 měsíci

    Amazing conversation. All so heartfelt. Brilliant, insightful stuff

  • @henrybostick5167
    @henrybostick5167 Před 4 měsíci

    I'm a new sub, glad I found this channel...
    Great discussion, great insight. None o this is new though. Boxing will always give itself a black eye from time to time because their are no universal rules for anything in boxing. It stems from the root of all evil. Not money, but the ❤ of 💰

  • @svgs650r
    @svgs650r Před 6 měsíci +5

    Wait…I seem to remember Team Ennis declining an offer to fight Crawford.
    Is that fear, ducking, poor management or all of the above?

  • @qweshun1223
    @qweshun1223 Před 5 měsíci

    As a businessman who watched boxing and now this podcast episodes One of the best boxing podcast especially how you all broke down all of the bad business or bs. Here's my question, with all these boxer active and retired, why was there never a union for boxers. Union reps who can lobby, protect and contract for the boxers beyond just the fight contract agreement. Those important things that involves more of the boxing politics and other decisions that would benefit the boxers and be a fair decision. Union reps that can make sure there's a balance between management, organizations and boxers which affects the sport on all levels?

  • @NoWayAsWay71
    @NoWayAsWay71 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Hey, Teddy I would love to sign the petition if and when you can share it. I love the show guys you all made some great points and even though it feels like a losing battle continue to fight the good fight. Someone has to do it so it can gain momentum until it can just no longer be ignored. I salute you all. 😎👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👍🏼👍🏼

  • @PugilistAnalyst
    @PugilistAnalyst Před 6 měsíci

    Respect, Chris Algeri.

  • @user-kw7xk9ck8t
    @user-kw7xk9ck8t Před 6 měsíci +4

    Crawford probably consider this as a high-risk low reward and ignore Boots but when he was coming up others saw him as a high-risk low reward too but came through, selfish mothaflucka.

    • @allenday24
      @allenday24 Před 6 měsíci +2

      This just isn’t true. Crawford accepted fights with little preparation time. Unlike Boots and Spence, he wasn't a marquee name straight out of the amateur scene. He never gained a title simply by promotion; he earned his place by climbing the ranking system the hard way. He never got a random chance to fight for a title.

    • @Supersupremegang
      @Supersupremegang Před 6 měsíci

      @@allenday24
      You just made this up 😂

  • @mariogillespie6274
    @mariogillespie6274 Před 4 měsíci

    Ennis has to fight top level fighters. He just has never been tested. Literally no names under his belt

  • @audialiastt2601
    @audialiastt2601 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Devin Haney wanted & was due to fight Loma but Mob Boss Bob did not want it to happen so offered Loma the French Fry (franchise) belt, which he accepted. Devin was then given the real belt.

  • @alvyalvarez5456
    @alvyalvarez5456 Před 6 měsíci

    Boxing is the only sport I keep up with as much as possible at one time I watch and played football, baseball, basketball, wrestling and Boxing now it’s just boxing but all the talk is exhausting

  • @BIG_EXEC
    @BIG_EXEC Před 6 měsíci

    Uncle AL got a monopoly on them belts 😂

  • @timothystoutermire8353
    @timothystoutermire8353 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Tell Devin Go Get His Belt Back