DO YOU WANT A TWIN TROLLER X10 QUICK LIFT DOLLY? - Review
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- DO YOU WANT A TWIN TROLLER X10 QUICK LIFT DOLLY? - Review
The newly re-designed Quick Lift Dolly is finally here and I have one. In two previous videos I assembled the dolly and in this third video I am using it to launch my Twin Troller X10.
In this video I show the items I needed to pull the Twin Troller back off the steep shoreline and show all the new ways this dolly works and what items I had difficulty with. This was my first time using the dolly so in the future I expect to do a better job with the dolly.
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Very good job seemed to work fine now you will be able to fish your lake. Is there any chance you could use a small lawn tractor to help put it in and out that way you don't take a chance of hurting your back. Your home is beautiful!
What I meant is a little hitch on your tractor then you don't need the cables.
RC, toward the end of the video you see my tractor next to the TT. I pulled the TT up the hill by hand just to show I could but in the future I will be connecting the rope to the tractor. I may also build a bracket to connect the nose of the TT to the tractor to move it to and from the garage. Gerry
@@LunkerFishing You make great videos and have great ideas thanks for sharing let us know how you do fishing if ya take the boat out on your lake.
@@gemfaceter, I do not think my mower could pull the TT up the hill. The manufacturer warns about pulling things with it. It is a lawn mower and I think I would need a lawn tractor to tow like that but time will tell. I have a welder and plan to make a bracket to lay the nose of the TT on behind the mower to pull it on level ground at least. Gerry
@@gemfaceter , I certainly will! Gerry
Tip: Consider a nylon rigging strap (for towing) from harbor freight, or rock climbing runner or length of 1" climbing webbing in a loop will stay in place on your tree, and be much easier on the bark over time. Add a carabiner for quick connecting your pulley. You can also drop the strap slack to the ground when not in use so it doesn't look unsightly, and snug it up when winching.
Good advice!
I plan to pull my boat with a riding lawnmower around the grassy yard instead to include steeper grades, but the mower may need tire chains to go up the grade due to light tread on the tires.
I have used my lawn tractor the same way
Thanks Jerry. Some folks may not be aware of the difficulty of even walking in that type of grass, never mind pushing wheels thru it. Your videos continue to get better and better.
William, Amen to the difficulty of walking in St. Augustine grass! Gerry
Interesting video showing now you used the dolly in your unique situation. Over the years owners have sent us photos of the TT being pulled by a golf cart and even a couple of mower towing shots. The design of the dolly was it get the wheels as far under the rear of the boat as possible to provide a better balance point for the lifting and moving of the boat. Because of this, depending on the HP of your mower I don't think you would have much of a problem pulling it up your hill. I'll be interested in seeing your mower tow bar. Tight lines, and thanks for putting this together.
Thanks David! Gerry
@@LunkerFishing That was Frank :)
Hey Gerry! I had just placed an order for one of these and thanks for such a good demo regarding this new dolly. Hey one of the things I had noticed that you didn't do but Dave did in his video was to attach the hook and one of the pulleys around the tree then one pulley to the boat. This allows you to walk down the hill toward your boat using your weight and gravity to pull the boat out of the water. In other words since you are walking and pulling the rope away from the tree and walking down hill gravity is helping you thus making it easier. You should try that and see if it is easier. I also bought a second dolly from my local Costco to put under the front of the boat that way you can push it in either direction. In case you are wondering what dolly its the $99 one that stands up tall but is collapsable to convert to a flat long dolly. The end even folds flat wich should be ideal to fit this under the front of the boat.
Tom, you are very correct that pulling on the rope when walking down hill would be better. Using the tractor was even easier! Gerry
Thanks Gerry for the lead on those soft loop straps. I wanted to get something like that for the same reasons that you did. You’re always good for fresh ideas and leads on equipment.
Ron, when I found them I immediately thought of Gerald from New Hampshire and the straps his wife made for him. They work well, you get six straps less than #$1.50 each. They get the job done well and weigh almost nothing. Gerry
I thought of his handy wife too.
Ron, I like the idea of the rings he uses but I do not have a way to make one and this seemed to be a good solution. Gerry
great job, I am sure it will go easier for you next time and thank you for all the good ideas, you're so clever,
Michael, I agree. There is a learning curve to this and I did not try it before filming. That was really my first time and I had to figure out how to do that on the fly.. Next time I think I have some other things to try that will make it even easier. Gerry
Good Job, Sir. Here's what your problem was @ 29:00 . The dolly has wheels/rollers on the front, and stoppers/soft wheels/rollers on the back. What you need to do is push DOWN on the dolly handle while pulling the boat TOWARDS YOU with your hand on the transom. This will disengage the stoppers on the dolly and engage the wheels. Give it a try.
Also, I recognized the transducer issue early on. When you get close to the edge of the back, let the handle go HIGH and the rod will go low. Give that a try as well. I have the transducer on my boat and it's not a problem, once you know how to properly put the dolly on & off.
Last thing. It looks like you had the battery in the boat. Worst case scenario, remove the battery and the dolly goes under the boat much easier. Batteries are 60 lbs+. Like I said, worst case scenario. Take the battery out, put the dolly in place, put the battery back in.
Sneak peek... I already know how to put the dolly on while in deep water. That's my next dolly video :)
Your video says to push the dolly forward while pushing down and pull back on the transom at the same time. I tried to do that but the dolly will not roll forward in the thick grass as I push the handle down and pull back on the transom. That left me with only pulling back on the transom but pulling back on the transom while pushing down on the handle may stop the TT from rolling backward. I will try that next time.
Once I get the dolly under the TT to the point you see in the video at 26:38 it was not terribly difficult to pull back on the transom to connect the hook on the handle. The difficult part, that I did not show in the video, was to lift the TT and get the dolly under enough to the stage you see in the video. You installed the dolly in the water but I would be in over my head in deep water if I tried to do that. I have no choice but to install the dolly on the TT when it is out of the water and that is why I pulled it to the top of the hill where the ground was semi-flat.
@@LunkerFishing Understand. Clearly, your greatest challenge was the grass. If the ground conditions make it hard to push the dolly under the boat, technique can only go so far.
Well Gerry once again your ingenuity is on display. It seemed a lot of work though. If I was 28 maybe but at 68 I just might consider a second twin troller for the private pond. I love the loop straps. Your videos always leaves me with ideas and looking forward to the next one.
Denis, I understand your point. That truly was the first time I was using the new dolly so there was no practice run. What you saw was me trying to work things out. I think you would learn more about the use of the dolly by seeing my mistakes than if I edited all that out and all you got was plain vanilla. (Although vanilla is my favorite flavor) I have a few ideas to make it go easier in the future and after a few times I believe I will have it streamlined. I was tired at the end of that shoot though. Gerry
I agree totally. Btw...vanilla is my favorite as well.
@@denishussin2367 🍦
Hi Gerry..Paul K from Minnesota..have you experienced the dreaded foot control “blowing up”?? You know what I mean I bet. If you did..what did you do to remedy the problem?? Will sealing it with caulk remedy it?? Got my boat but kinda leery about taking it out on the water!! Should I caulk it before I do?? Thx Gerry..👍👍
Paul, This past January I have owned my TT for eight years. I have never had any problems with the pedals and fishing in this boat regularly and often. Therefore, I cannot give you and advice other than to tell you what my experience has been. Gerry
Gerry, as always you are full of great innovative ideas! I love everything you do! Those straps are awesome and found that they are available through Walmart too so now I don’t have to try and make the ones with d-rings! The again for all you do on your channel! Tight lines from Tennessee!
Russell, they work well are dirt cheap and strong enough lift the entire TT and the trailer off the ground. If you need stronger straps than that "You are gonna need a bigger boat ". Gerry
Don’t need/want a bigger boat! 🥴 Take care my friend!
just curious.
I bought this dolly yesterday.
I have the bass hunter boat.
it's very similar in size and weight to your twin troller.
the bass hunter is a pontoon boat.
I can't wait to see if the dolly works for me.
your thoughts?
Please let me know how it works for you.
Put a trailer ball on your tractor, hook ya boat trailer to the tractor and letter rip ,, OR Golf cart,, OR ATV Which I have used to launch my john boat before I sold it,, I'm in the process of a 10' Pontoon Build , it's a work in progress but the videos help ,all ideas are Helpful ,they lead to new ideas , good job on the Video ,,
You can also mount a hand crank boat winch on the Dolly Handle anchor the Dolly , hook rope on winch to front and pull boat out and up onto the Dolly if it's a situation where you have to use a dolly , Anyhow enjoyed ya video , Tight Lines To Ya 🦈🎣
Donnie, I could not just install a ball on the tractor because the trailer tongue would be too low. I made a bracket in another video to pull the TT out of the water to the top of the hill to then put the boat on the dolly. I could not use the trailer to pull or launch the TT in my community. That would not be allowed.
This video was designed to pull the boat from the water with the ropes and pull us the way the builder of the TT did in their own video.
Try watching my other video using my tractor. Gerry
@@LunkerFishing true I'm a Community setting I'd Guess some have rules and regs ,, we do what we must to get in the water ,, you have me some good ideas on Different Mods,,, See I live out in the country there's no rules or regs ,I have a huge 36000 acre mgt area that has a river running thru it , the Pascagoula River , numerous oxbow lakes and sloughs or Bayous running thruouut , before I Retired I worked on the area , Then Transferred To Full Time Conservation Officer OR Game Warden as most called us, But I did speak about a year as Area Manager as well , Something Small enough to work in the shallower months of Summer waters and yet manageable for the lakes and sloughs was what I have been looking for , I did build one wooden boat many years Ago a 8' boat that worked well but the weight of it was a bit much , I've done the Canoe thing many years ago and caught Alotta fish BUT it's just not what I want now as it's not Steady enough for me and knees are just not as cooperative gettin in and out , I considered the Kayak , Even borrowed one to try out ,,but that didn't take long to see it was even worst than the canoes for my preference now , 35 years ago , Sure Great ,,now Not so great lol,, the Pontoon Boats Are The solution , it's cold the waters Yo-yoing Up And Down now , I'm in no big rush ,I'm gathering what I need kinda like johnny cash,,"One Piece At A Time" lol 🤣 ,, I'm still looking at the different types of these Pontoon boats , including the 10e ,, which I can get local now ,, the videos are a huge Help ,thanks for taking the time and effort to out em together ,,,, Tight Lines To Ya 🦈🎣
Donnie, Thanks for your public service. I also have a law enforcement background and education. Glad I am retired though. Gerry
@@LunkerFishing Greatly appreciated And Thanks Much To You As Well , It Seems We're Brothers Of Sort From a Past Professional Career ,Indeed I, Like You , am so glad I'm Retired At this point ,As Much As I Did Enjoy My Job I'd Hate to know I had to deal with some of the Sheer Stupidity of Today's Politically Motivated World Of The Cancel Culture On A Daily Basis, LE Officers Of Today Have Their Hands Full On Two Fronts , the Public Political Agenda And The Administrative Political Lack Of Support ,
Fishin 🎣 and Doing Little Boat And Trailer Mods Are Much More Peaceful and Enjoyed, I Must Say My Friend I'll Take That Anyday ,
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I have a subscription to TubeBuddy and after extensive research it showed that title has the best weighted and unweighted scores. I just researched that phrase you gave me in the Keyword Explorer and it does not do well however, I will change it to that right now and see what happens.
I stocked all nine of our lakes with bait (thread fin shad, golden shiners, and bluegill) when the community was new and left the lakes alone for a year or two until the bait came well established. Then I started to add bass to the lakes but the largest was a 6.25 lb and most were 1-3 pounds. The bass took off and I caught some in the ten pound range but then others here saw me catching them and killed the bass for a cheap meal even though there are catch and release signs all over the community. Now we do not have large bass anymore but it is still a place to fish from the shore and catch ten bass in an hour on a good day but only smaller bass. For a couple of dollars you can get a fish sandwich at McDonalds but the big bass we had were priceless to most fisherman and especially kids. You can't fix stupid or greed.
@@LunkerFishing Of course, it depends on what your goal is. For people looking at Twin Trollers, it would be better. If you're looking for views, you may want to change it to... Justin Bieber dolly review. :)
What I have.done in past when needing to get up a bank with a boat is to use trailer hitch on truck with rope to simply drag up a bank.
Allen, I suggested that in the video, even tying onto the trailer you used to get the TT to that location. Not every situation presents the opportunity to do that because the vehicle may be too far away or not in a direct line to the water. I agree with you though. Gerry
@@LunkerFishing I agree it can not always be the answer, but it is a great way to recover our boats when possible. I would hate to drag that boat over a rough surface any more than I had to.
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Hi Gerry, I would love to get my TT in the 28 ac. lake behind the house to, but my grass is steeper than yours and the water is 6ft only 1 foot from the bank that is why I built the rickyak it's only about 60 lb.
Rick, your location sounds difficult to launch and retrieve your TT at your lake. It is hard to have water you want to fish and not be able to use the TT but I am working on using mine behind the house easier. I launched the TT by hand using the pulleys to show I could. Now I will work on making it even easier for an old man to do. Gerry
Gerry, I have watched this a couple of times. I still have the old dolly. My favorite place to launch is a Sandy beach. It's tough because the dolly and I are in the water. Anyone figured out an easy way to retrieve the boat when done? Ok to answer tomorrow.
Pete, I have found an easy way to remove the TT from the water but it is then difficult to get the TT back on the dolly. I have dragged the TT up the hill behind my house from the water using my lawn tractor. You could use a rope to your tow vehicle/trailer is the vehicle is parked close by and pull it out of the water but only do that if you can slide it across some smooth grass. I found it difficult to get the TT back on the dolly because my lawn is plush and thick and the dolly will not roll well under the TT. My solution may not be good for your situation.
Gerry
I'm exhausted watching this .... However you gave us interesting ideas
Patty, I know the feeling. It was a hot day and I was tired at the end. Gerry
I’m just curious why you don’t use the trailer itself and get one of those things to go in the trailer so I can push the trailer around and when you come back up use your hundred foot rope and a And a wrench to pull the boat off
Brian, There are lots of ways to move the TT however, I wanted the dolly to move it to the lake behind my house. My community has restrictions about having a boat launch since the land around the lake is common area and not my property. Thus I did not want to use a trailer to get it to/from the water. Gerry
I would be more inclined to put a ball on the tractor just back the whole darn trailer down, launch the boat and then drag it back up on the trailer and not even mess with the dolly.
I cannot take the trailer to the water in my community. Dolly or nothing. I showed you how to use the pulleys but after that I used my tractor to drag it out of the water on its belly. Gerry
I ordered the TT not long ago, and still waiting on delivery. I live in NJ and intend to use the TT in Raritan Bay. Where I go in the Bay won't be too choppy or have big swells, but does require a beach launch at times. Many of my kayaking friends use those grey-colored balloon wheels. I know I will need a long shaft and step-down bushings for mounting. But do you think kayak balloon wheels will work on this dolly?
PT, It would be a guess on my part. I never heard of anyone using those wheels but with some modifications it may work. Welcome to the family! Gerry
Hi Gerry, do you think baloon wheels will work on this dolly? I want to launch from a couple of sand beaches, each around 50 to 100 yards from the parking lot (it's only a bay, not the open ocean). The stocked dolly wheels would just sink into the sand.
I added two extra tires to make four total on my dolly just to go across a thick lawn. I would not say it works well. With that said,” I am not sure the balloon tires would work but since they are taller tires and much wider they may work. If you had access to borrow some of those tires it would be a great experiment and I would like to know the results. You may need to use a longer axle and taller tires may interfere with the boat. Good luck! Gerry
@@LunkerFishing
I have the bass hunter 120.
it's almost identical in size and weight to your twin troller.
I bought this dolly
your thoughts on if it will work for my boat?
Waited for this final episode on the TT Dolly and if it works for you on the grass and especially if it results in a lot of fish it's worth it. I like your pully system. It's similar to what we used to pull vehicles out of the mud when I was in the Army. They called them Snatch Blocks or hooks I believe. If I used the pulley system hooked to a tree I would use my lawn tractor and pull it up in one steady pull cause after fishing for a few hours I don't think I would want to pull it up the hill. Did you get any grass in the motor guards.
Steve, as you saw I had my tractor there but in the future I will not be pulling it up the hill by hand, I will be using that tractor! There was no grass on the bottom of the TT at all. I forgot to say this in the video but I could have taken a pail of water from the lake and thrown it on the lawn to lubricate it prior to pulling the TT up the hill. Gerry
@@LunkerFishingI had originally decided to buy a new Dolly but have decided against it because every lake except maybe 2 have good quality boat launches so I don't see it as money well spent. I bought a new storage shed and I'm also making my one car second garage into a functioning work shop which I hope to have some good pictures to show you soon. Like you I love fishing but I also like good quality tools. I have a garage company coming in 2 weeks to put on a brand new door and I have plans for an 8 foot long work bench because the smaller ones I've had over the years were one thing and that was they were to small. Please show when you pull the TT up the hill with the tractor. Steve
Steve, if you do not need the dolly because you have launches everywhere there is no need to get one. I really only have one place to use it and that is behind the house. Down the road I may think of other places that I will need it but behind the house is my big place to use it. Gerry
@@LunkerFishing If I could be so lucky as to have a lake behind my house I would have a Dolly and I wanted to tell you about a bumper sticker I saw today. I think it was meant for vegetarians. " There is a place for all of Gods creatures. Right next to my mashed potatoes"
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I’m very interested in one of these boats , there a bit expensive . In this situation it seems like a Jon boat would be easier to use . I’m sure your lawn mower can pull that boat on the trailer . For pond hopping use , or a boat without a trailer appears the Jon boat a better choice . I really do like the idea on these twin troller boats though , going to keep researching about them . I live in Florida as well.
Justin, Keep watching my videos since then. You will see me using my lawn tractor like you suggest. It is always a trade off that you can use another style of boat but you lose other benefits of fishing comfortably in a boat like a Twin Troller. Gerry
Lunker012 alright will do . I do really like the idea of the twin troller, I see a lot of benefits to a boat like that .
@@justin5345, There is no boat in this size that does what the TT does. I am not trying to sell boats. Just trying to give you accurate information so you can make an informed decision. Gerry
The dolly, on the freedom electric website, there's 2 wheels still. Is that an old photo? If you modified it, can you show how you did it?
Keepin, I modified my dolly. Look at my other videos and you will see how I modified my dolly. Gerry
It seems to me that since you have a 12v battery in the boat, another option would be to get a 12v ATV winch and let it do all the all the heavy pulling!
Samuel, that would definitely work. I have a tree at the top of the hill I could connect to so I could pull it up a hill. I wanted to use the same way Freedom Electric Marine uses in their video to pull the TT from the water to show it could be done. If you look at my videos since this one you will see that I make a bracket to attach to my lawn tractor and that will pull it out and up the hill with no problem. If I wanted to launch some place else where my tractor was not available I could always use the pull system I used in this video. Thanks for the suggestion. Gerry
Making me tired
Me too! Gerry
U r making way to much for nothing. Heck by the time a guy does all that he will not want to go fishing
Randy, if there is a place you want to fish and no launch you will have to do things like this to get there. Gerry