Video není dostupné.
Omlouváme se.

The Book Was Better: Divergent Review

Sdílet
Vložit
  • čas přidán 10. 12. 2014
  • How would society look if we divided it into 5 separate one-dimensional groups? WITH SPECIAL GUEST, DIANE LEE!
    Diane's channel: / bookedwithacapitald
    Follow on Twitter: / krimsonrogue
    Join the conversation on Facebook- KRMthebookwa...
    Micro God- www.amazon.com/Micro-God-K-R-M...
    DISCLAIMER: FAIR USE. Title 17, US Code (Sections 107-118 of the copyright law) All media in this video is used for the purpose of review and commentary under the terms of fair use. All footage, music and images used belong to their respective owners.

Komentáře • 510

  • @magicianofd8434
    @magicianofd8434 Před 8 lety +227

    Fun fact, when I read the book I thought Four was a old man when he first introduced, imagine my confusion when Trice started making out with him.

    • @magicianofd8434
      @magicianofd8434 Před 8 lety +5

      +MidnightBlackCat When first read that scene that was my thought exactly, minus the smiley face though

    • @neroquin
      @neroquin Před 4 lety +11

      That sounds like a cool idea, I'm gonna go look for a fanfic where Four is a badass old dude

    • @zinniasegura7508
      @zinniasegura7508 Před 2 lety +13

      I thought four was a middle-aged man and upon realizing he was a love interest, had to completely recreate the image I had painted of him. When you already have a picture in your head of what the character looks like, it's difficult to forget it and see them as someone else afterwards.

    • @chansesturm7103
      @chansesturm7103 Před 2 lety +10

      It would be kind of interesting had he been an old man-he'd be tempered, stoic, experienced, and for the heck of it let's make him a silver fox. Tris could very well have a crush on him, but later on he understandably lets her down (because the alternative is just weird), although he possibly does it harder than he meant to. After a rough patch where Tris has to come to terms with this rejection, they go on to form a genuine bond. Not a _romantic_ bond, mind you, but a loving, caring bond nonetheless.

    • @MrAlsachti
      @MrAlsachti Před 3 měsíci

      You are all prudes. I also thought he was an old man but that didn't changed in my mind after Trice started making out with him.

  • @kfizzledizzle8467
    @kfizzledizzle8467 Před 9 lety +444

    so its extreamly rare for them to show more than 1 personality trait. these people are human right?

    • @kousetsuhana
      @kousetsuhana Před 4 lety +44

      Yes, but the divergents are the only normal humans, the "single trait" ones have corrupted genes. They explain this in the subsequent books.

    • @lahlybird895
      @lahlybird895 Před 4 lety +9

      They've been genetically modified

    • @turtleanton6539
      @turtleanton6539 Před 4 lety +3

      Not really

    • @arturfernandes101
      @arturfernandes101 Před 4 lety +56

      @@kousetsuhana although it is "explained" in book 2 and 3, it still doesnt make any sense, cause it creates a bunch of plot holes. There are a lot of times non divergent ppl showed various traits

    • @thedoctorprofessor1817
      @thedoctorprofessor1817 Před 4 lety +15

      @@kousetsuhana also, how do "corrupted genes" turn you into someone with one of five very specific personalities?

  • @alexturlais8558
    @alexturlais8558 Před 7 lety +272

    "the first film was an instant hit"
    *looks at allegiant box office returns*
    how things change...

  • @bluesnowdrop1439
    @bluesnowdrop1439 Před 7 lety +528

    I mostly agree with Diane about pretty much everything about the book. This portrayal of society and "Divergents" who don't do what they're told has been done a million times before.

    • @lahlybird895
      @lahlybird895 Před 4 lety +13

      So has everything else,
      "There are no new story.
      only new ways of telling them"

    • @Moony1568
      @Moony1568 Před 4 lety +20

      Lahly Bird yeah but this story is not done well. I couldn’t even finish the first book because I was bored out of my mind and I hated tris. She’s a blank slate. It’s just a shitty version of the Hunger Games

    • @lahlybird895
      @lahlybird895 Před 4 lety

      @@Moony1568 Divergent is none MUCH better than the hunger [q~"]games is.
      Tris hp plenty of emotion, she just hides them
      That's the entire point

    • @matty6796
      @matty6796 Před 4 lety +5

      @@lahlybird895 not really . While katniss was an asshole but also a leader , tris acts like a robot that everyone pretends is a person

  • @davidspring4003
    @davidspring4003 Před 6 lety +413

    I have a sort of theory from having read the first book, nothing more.
    Basically, everyone is Divergent. They're just TOLD this is unusual to keep them scared enough to stay in their little corners of the factions and not question anything. There are only a few of them who think of this as making them "special" instead of "anomalies to be arrested/studied"

    • @allisondempsey982
      @allisondempsey982 Před 5 lety +100

      @David Spring Your idea would have been a better plot/idea for the story than what we got in the original Divergence then what we got.

    • @UltimateisUltimate
      @UltimateisUltimate Před 5 lety +33

      Oh I wish that was true,,,

    • @lyricbot8513
      @lyricbot8513 Před 5 lety +28

      That would have made so much more sense tbh.

    • @lorieslori8051
      @lorieslori8051 Před 5 lety +44

      That would have been way better. Instead of this in the final book we learn that people were genetically engineered to enhance their good traits but if of course went wrong and made them rely entirely on that trait, neglecting other. So the main character literally had being special written into her genes. (Divergents were people who had their genes brought back to normal)

    • @lahlybird895
      @lahlybird895 Před 4 lety +1

      I so wish that his true

  • @Tea_Noire
    @Tea_Noire Před 9 lety +182

    So apparently in the universe of Divergent everyone is either a flat one-dimensional character with only one personality trait or a pseudo two-dimensional character with >5 character traits, because the majority of the population seems to fit into only one faction.
    Huh. It takes talent to be so blatant about your inability to write dynamic characters.

    • @KrimsonRogue
      @KrimsonRogue  Před 9 lety +38

      I had a skit that I wanted to write that made that joke, but it didn't really fit in. XP

    • @LeafingThroughTheFrames
      @LeafingThroughTheFrames Před 9 lety +5

      KrimsonRogue
      Wow, you hit the nail right on the head there Buizelstar. ;)

    • @Tea_Noire
      @Tea_Noire Před 9 lety +21

      BookeD WithacapitalD The thing is, the author of this book could have just as easily changed this concept to make the overall book more interesting. For example, rather than having a test where your final decision nullifies the results (what's the point of that? That's like taking the SAT and then Collegeboard turns around and says "Oh, it doesn't matter what score you get, because you get to go to whatever college that you choose."), a person's faction should be dictated by the results of a DNA test. Those with a specific sequence of genes should be put into Dauntless, Amity, etc. (also, WTF is up with those faction names? Nobody uses words like "amity" anymore unless it's on the SAT. Stop trying to be edgy.) Those who express multiple genes should be thrown into the slums of the Factionless immediately, upping the stakes for the protagonist. When the antagonist's plan to "purify" the population (by killing the Factionless) gets leaked, the protagonist has to leap to action to save the unfortunate. Sure, it's a slight ripoff of that plot thread from _The Giver_, but the original book already rips off _The Hunger Games_ and _Twilight_ anyway, so why not use some better source material?

    • @spacecadet8843
      @spacecadet8843 Před 8 lety

      +Buizelstar made me think of the AgradeunderA video on people who use long words 😂

    • @Tea_Noire
      @Tea_Noire Před 8 lety

      The Part-time Nerd AGradeUnderA is my bae.

  • @machspeed7610
    @machspeed7610 Před 7 lety +496

    Do a colab With The Dom and his series Lost in Adaptation

  • @samstruhar7663
    @samstruhar7663 Před 7 lety +143

    I like how one of the nightmare images was a Twilight cover.

    • @raudello3666
      @raudello3666 Před 4 lety +10

      If this was done now days he would've added Reaper's Creek and Empress Theresa on there

    • @LegoManiac_101
      @LegoManiac_101 Před 3 lety +1

      Timestamp?

  • @DrGregoryHouseIT
    @DrGregoryHouseIT Před 9 lety +238

    Well, I did the test too, and surprise, surprise, I'm freaking Divergent. Interesting review, but for me it was weirder the fact that Tris' brother is played by Ansel Elgort, who played her boyfriend in 'The Fault In Our Stars'.

  • @Fishhunter2014
    @Fishhunter2014 Před 7 lety +112

    Oh man. . . I just realized I had seen this film a while ago. Apparently it was so bland that I completely forgot ever seeing it. Let me make this clear - it left so little of an impression that I had no recollection of ever seeing this film. I can remember Twilight, Eragon, hell even Underworld: rise of the lychins left more of an impression!
    IT WAS SO BLAND AND BY THE BOOKS THAT I LITERALLY BLANKED IT FROM MY MIND.

  • @googamp32
    @googamp32 Před 9 lety +84

    I will never forgive this movie for making "Muppets Most Wanted" into a financial flop!

    • @sporeham1674
      @sporeham1674 Před 5 lety

      I didn’t even know that movie existed. I need to watch it.

    • @sierotkamarysia4199
      @sierotkamarysia4199 Před 5 lety +3

      Nah, its not their fault the movie was shit

    • @noahthompson2912
      @noahthompson2912 Před 4 lety +4

      @@sierotkamarysia4199 it actually is good . it's like the first one and is pretty funny

  • @InkHeart17
    @InkHeart17 Před 7 lety +421

    Don't you worry about your female demographics, Rogue. You're a tall, slim, handsome intellectual who passionately discusses books. In my particular neck of the woods it's very uncommon to see males reading for fun; so when I spot a reader it's swoon-worthy. Plus, you have a cat - that's always cute.

    • @sorcerersapprentice
      @sorcerersapprentice Před 6 lety +14

      I second that!

    • @midgetwthahacksaw
      @midgetwthahacksaw Před 6 lety +17

      InkHeart17 Third! He's a very handsome Rogue, that he is!

    • @Ashethetics
      @Ashethetics Před 5 lety +5

      Amen!

    • @lahlybird895
      @lahlybird895 Před 4 lety +1

      wajj% agree on all points listed.
      I loved his cat in the city of bones review

    • @Vampgurl202
      @Vampgurl202 Před 4 lety +11

      And him tearing Onision's books to shreds is extremely attractive for some reasons

  • @tandemingtroll
    @tandemingtroll Před 9 lety +116

    I have to agree with Diane's assessment of the book series. I made it through the first book because the romance elements were not very prominent and it was interesting getting to know the rules of this particular dystopian universe. However, I became bored with the second book halfway through and realized that I also didn't care whether the characters lived or died, so I quit reading it and asked my daughters how it ended. I am SO glad I didn't slog through the rest of the series.

  • @BloodyRomance1313
    @BloodyRomance1313 Před 6 lety +58

    I’m just sick to death of the “bland looking” female hero that comes from nothing to be the “strong” hero while still doing the same love triangle crap we’ve been doing forever. Twilight, Divergent, Hunger Games and more all have these females who sacrifice being interesting for being “strong”.

    • @funkyfranx
      @funkyfranx Před 4 lety +6

      tbf, there was no love triangle in Diveregent

    • @matty6796
      @matty6796 Před 4 lety +24

      I dont think hunger games fits in with the other two since katniss at least has a personality

    • @fuzzycatbutts
      @fuzzycatbutts Před 2 lety +1

      @@matty6796 Agree to disagree on that one, bro

    • @gracekim25
      @gracekim25 Před rokem +2

      @@matty6796 also katnass and Petes are FORCED to pretend to like each other (as they’re on TV to the world) and everyone in the books and movies does have personality

    • @gracekim25
      @gracekim25 Před rokem +1

      @@fuzzycatbutts what? She DOES have personality? Are you high?!😅

  • @epicremarc
    @epicremarc Před 5 lety +42

    Wait... I just realized, how are divergents not affected by the mind control? It’s just their personality, not something blocking the drug. Right?

    • @randomsparrow333
      @randomsparrow333 Před 3 lety +7

      Turns out it's actually a genetic thing. People figured out how to remove personality traits with gene editing and Tris is the result of a long-term breeding program to create a Kwisatz Haderach- I mean, to put normal people with more than one personality trait back into the gene pool.
      Except she does only have one personality trait. She's Special.

    • @liliesaregoodfortheliver2954
      @liliesaregoodfortheliver2954 Před 3 lety +3

      @@randomsparrow333 You're damn right she only has one personality trait.

  • @GallowglassVT
    @GallowglassVT Před 8 lety +41

    Young Adult fiction rarely does dystopian stories right (Hell, the only one I ever thought was any good was Feed). They have the settings, but lack the commentary outside of some really bad "no fucking shit, Sherlock" moments and it's infuriating because they could act as a great way to get teens interested in politics. I dunno. Most YA dystopian novels feel like what would happen if Tumblr became a publishing company and everyone wrote in a safe space. Philip Pullman says "TRY HARDER. IF I CAN DO A SOCIAL COMMENTARY ON CHRISTIAN MORALITY AND THE NATURE OF RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS, YOU CAN WRITE SOCIAL COMMENTARY THAT DOESN'T INSULT THE INTELLIGENCE OF TEENS!"

  • @litlblkhouse
    @litlblkhouse Před 5 lety +8

    This is why I prefer the Hunger Games. It all has to do with three things: the color palette, the subject matter and the concept. The Hunger Games has an interesting color palette. It describes each character very well in the costumes, and the natural settings, such as fire, flora, animals, and blood, are all well represented. They have equal uses of color in every scene, without relying too much on darkness. Divergent does not have an interesting color palette. It goes the Man of Steel route and always looks gloomy, and whatever excuse for color is singed on viewing. The Hunger Games is very bouncy and flamboyant without being boring, and there are many sympathetic moments that are more approachable. It also has a good use of characters of color, too. Divergent is a ridiculously brooding borefest from start to finish. Finally, the Hunger Games has a very interesting concept that a lot of people associate with the movies and the books. A kill - all tournament set up by a tyrannical government as cruelty to children in the dystopian future? Major moneygrabber and diehard fanbase. Divergent does not have a good concept. It doesn't even explain the backstory for why its government was set up in the first place. I agree 100% with this review.

  • @macklyon7476
    @macklyon7476 Před 5 lety +85

    Am I the only person who couldn't stand the book? It just seemed like regurgitation of other stories. I was bored, so I couldn't read the other ones.

    • @lyricbot8513
      @lyricbot8513 Před 5 lety +12

      I read through them in quick succession, but I can't remember having much of an opinion on them. They were interesting enough at the time, but I wouldn't really want to reread them.

    • @KrazyKelor
      @KrazyKelor Před 4 lety +3

      The initiation lasts for fucking ever until finally the plot shows up three hundred pages in.
      If the movie did anything right it was introducing Jeanine in person earlier and showing the Erudites working on stuff in the Dauntless compound to sow some mystery and unease that more is going on than just cruelty-laden basic training. In the book the Erudite conspiracy just comes right out of nowhere without any real setup,

    • @beautifulgudrun8802
      @beautifulgudrun8802 Před 4 lety +2

      i didn't hate the first book. my friend and I read the entire series in two days, and we both agree that the first was the best of the books (though still not a great book) and if it was left as a stand-alone novel, it wouldn't of been too bad. but then things got way out of hand. the entire thing contains like one compelling character, who has half a dozen scenes and later dies off 'screen' and don't even get me started on the romance.

    • @AJ-ox8xy
      @AJ-ox8xy Před 4 lety

      I read them but don't remember much of anything. They were boring and I only read it so I didn't have to watch the movies. Little did I know the movies and books...diverge from each other quite a bit.

    • @AJ-ox8xy
      @AJ-ox8xy Před 4 lety

      @@lyricbot8513 exactly what happened to me.

  • @avery9076
    @avery9076 Před 5 lety +28

    How does splitting an area up into "factions" and shaping them to be as opposed to eachother as possible help at all

  • @jacobkleinsasser5658
    @jacobkleinsasser5658 Před 8 lety +33

    Every complaint you made is a problem I had but I also had a story issue that always bugged me. Eric shows almost blatant hatred for Tris. If he was an instructor he would have been fired because he is being completely unfair to her. Favoritism is not allowed in teacher settings because the teacher may give their preferred students unfair advantages, however, the reverse is just as bad. Stripping a student of any possibility of success so they fail is just as much a crime. But here is the big thing for me. Every test he puts up against Tris, she passes. Several times with flying colors. If he was a true instructor he would be VERY proud of her because of it! But no, he is pissed because he can't get her kicked out and is never reprimanded for his outright hatred for her. And what's worse, we are never given a reason WHY! He just hates her because he hates her.
    Mind you, I did not read the book, so it is possible the books answered these, but the movie didn't.

    • @gracekim25
      @gracekim25 Před rokem +2

      I don’t remember if the books ever explain

  • @Monocultured01
    @Monocultured01 Před 6 lety +7

    Apparently there's an "official test" on the movie website, and surprise surprise, I got divergent. It's almost like humans are too complex to be summarized in one word.

  • @l.tc.5032
    @l.tc.5032 Před 7 lety +64

    Why did they drag poor Kate Winslet into this mess?

  • @lotusthemermaid
    @lotusthemermaid Před 5 lety +16

    I'm 100% with Diane on this one.

  • @chinchilla0708
    @chinchilla0708 Před 5 lety +23

    I took a test and got Erudite which is extremely weird because i can't focus on things and am incredibly lazy and more into art than numbers and letters unless they're beautiful. I have no idea where the autistic people or mentally ill people would fit into in a world like that. My social anxiety would get me killed for sure

    • @lyricbot8513
      @lyricbot8513 Před 5 lety +6

      Omg so true lmao. I guess the mentally ill are the factionless, so us ADHD and dyslexic kids would be chilling in the dumpster

    • @gracekim25
      @gracekim25 Před rokem +1

      I….guess they’d be factionless 😅

  • @demonicice8227
    @demonicice8227 Před 9 lety +55

    He word divergent means to split apart or be set aside from, yet in the opening title the lines come TOGETHER to spell divergent. Anyone else find that weird?

  • @chickknightgreenleaf820
    @chickknightgreenleaf820 Před 7 lety +55

    27:31 is "Stephenie Meyer" became a swear word in bookworm world now????

  • @arazec1014
    @arazec1014 Před 8 lety +23

    This channel is amazing, with AMAZING jokes to keep us entertained. This is basically a better cinemasins. Keep up the good work!!!

  • @pyroshayniac1090
    @pyroshayniac1090 Před 9 lety +33

    I actually likes the movie better in this case. Shocking, I know. In the book, Tris was the most ANNOYING little snot I have ever read about. She was "strong and independent", until she met her boyfriend and became pathetic and stupid.

  • @waaaaaahhhhhhh
    @waaaaaahhhhhhh Před 5 lety +14

    My English class read the book o do a novel study and we watched the movie afterward and I'm not even joking a little colony of girls in my class shrieked. Also, I know this was from years ago but Diane I love your point of Tris and Four having no fucking chemistry because aint that the tea

  • @theaquinnwrites
    @theaquinnwrites Před 5 lety +10

    Divergent is crap, I am with Diane on this one :D The kid dying was a girl, and also it had no effect on anything, Tris basically instantly forgot.

  • @sarcasticat_8933
    @sarcasticat_8933 Před 8 lety +12

    fun fact
    (SPOILERS FOR FAULT IN OUR STARS AND THE ENTIRE DIVERGENT SERIES)
    Shailine Woodley (sorry for misspelling her name) plays dying roles in both movies.
    😊

    • @ascholz429
      @ascholz429 Před 7 lety +2

      Sarcasticat _ shailine's character in TFIOS (I haven't read that book since 2013 I don't remember her name) doesn't die. It's Augustus. But it's funny that Caleb was supposed to die in Allegiant but the actor who plays character in TFIOS, Augustus, dies.

    • @raudello3666
      @raudello3666 Před 4 lety

      @@ascholz429 her name is Hazel Grace Lancaster

  • @hawardxmendez4246
    @hawardxmendez4246 Před 9 lety +7

    Great Review! I always smile when I see you've finished another one. I never read the book, but I didn't like this movie, watched it with my girlfriend, I find the whole idea of a society divided that way just silly. Plus, I'm all sick of these Harry Potter-esque ways of dividing teens into houses/factions/districts. I agree with Diane, I cared little for anyone in the movie, and it just bored me.
    If I ever wake up in the universe, I'd like to be in Amity!

  • @roarkthehalf-orc6598
    @roarkthehalf-orc6598 Před 9 lety +24

    I've never read the books, but this movie SUUUUUCKSS!!

  • @kfizzledizzle8467
    @kfizzledizzle8467 Před 8 lety +7

    what I don't get about when Al and the others tried to kill Tris, is that she is just one person, so killing her would only move them up in the ranks one spot, so assuming one of them was just below the cut-off, only one of them would actually make it by killing her, and we saw earlier that Al was safe on that score board or whatever it was, because he was number 21 and Tris was 20. If Tris was doing so well then being one spot behind her isn't that bad. So why did he even try to kill her?
    Actually, I know why they tried to kill her, it's because they read the script.

  • @entertain7us148
    @entertain7us148 Před 6 lety +5

    oh my god I just discovered this channel this morning, and it's like discovering the Dom all over again. There's nothing so satisfying as listening to someone rant for half an hour at a time about terrible books and/or adaptation.

  • @kfizzledizzle8467
    @kfizzledizzle8467 Před 9 lety +15

    ha ha! twilight was one of his nightmares

  • @macklyon7476
    @macklyon7476 Před 5 lety +19

    Shailene Woodley and Theo James were together in this movie
    Woodley and Miles Teller (the asshole, forgot his name) were together in The Spectacular Now
    Woodley and Ansel Elgort (her brother) were together in The Fault in Our Stars.
    funny that she's made out with all of them.

    • @jbcatz5
      @jbcatz5 Před 4 lety +2

      MackLyon One of the Honest Trailers actually says “The Fault in Our Costars”.

  • @ThatRandomEncounterGuy
    @ThatRandomEncounterGuy Před 5 lety +8

    If the Plot is the skeleton, and the Story is the muscles and skin...then what are the organs?

  • @nope9233
    @nope9233 Před 9 lety +35

    I burst out laughing when I saw the middle earth Oscars award. Great review as normal.

    • @KrimsonRogue
      @KrimsonRogue  Před 9 lety +4

      Nope92 Lol, won those back when I was in high school. I actually got to perform in the musical version of The Hobbit. XD Just a shame I couldn't find any footage to use for the Hobbit review. :P

    • @dramawickedrocker
      @dramawickedrocker Před 9 lety

      KrimsonRogue Sounds cool. Who were you playing in the musical? :) Are you excited about the final movie?

    • @KrimsonRogue
      @KrimsonRogue  Před 9 lety +2

      I played one of the trolls (and had a song about the joys of eating stuff XD), and I played the Goblin King. Also, I was an elf extra and one of the four people controlling Smaug.
      Also, yes, I'm looking forward to seeing the third movie, even though there's almost nothing left to cover in the book. :P

    • @dramawickedrocker
      @dramawickedrocker Před 9 lety +1

      KrimsonRogue From what I heard, I think the final movie is to be a bit shorter than the other two. However, I could be wrong about that. Chris Stuckmann, a movie reviewer on CZcams, has already gave a review on the movie a few days ago if you're curious. Also, for a future The Book Was Better Review, may I suggest Warm Bodies? It is a pretty good movie, in my opinion. :)

    • @KrimsonRogue
      @KrimsonRogue  Před 9 lety +2

      Didn't know Warm Bodies was a book. Added it to the list!

  • @lewrl1
    @lewrl1 Před 9 lety +27

    10:10 I kind of disagree with your defence of Four here. The character is interesting in the book, but Theo James doesn't really pull it off here and what you said about him are mostly things he does, rather than character traits and even the ones that you did mention that don't come through in the acting. That's just my opinion on that. Still a good book though.

    • @haggisa
      @haggisa Před 4 lety +2

      lewrl1
      Yeah, he’s a very pretty man, but he has the acting ability of a rose bush.

  • @spencerthefrankenstein8291

    Krismion: A double decker coutch? That's the dumbest thing I ever heard of!
    Me: Accually I have one.

  • @littleoreo7717
    @littleoreo7717 Před 5 lety +5

    I remember reading this book, Divergent and I actually liked it. Just looking at now, I find this decent. Not the best but not the worst.

  • @carissacarlson1418
    @carissacarlson1418 Před 7 lety +5

    Takes the test...
    Huh. I got Dauntless...that kinda fits me the more I think about it, since I'm a Wampus and Gryffindor, too.

  • @YOYOBadmojoJOJO
    @YOYOBadmojoJOJO Před 9 lety +23

    i LUV you guys hehe and i dont mean this romatically but.....you guys have as much chemistry as table salt and sawdust lolz :D

  • @classmovie89
    @classmovie89 Před 9 lety +23

    I told Dianne this, but one night, last month, at the concert venue I work at, Andy Grammar and American Authors were performing, and all throughout Andy Grammar's set I could hear the preteen girls screaming whenever he was on. I swear they sounded just like the preteen scream sound effect in this review, and that is all I could think of. I then asked myself, "Should my ears be bleeding this much?"

  • @LoreShocks
    @LoreShocks Před 9 lety +16

    Im glad i found this channel, is soooooo good and was worth my subscription, keep up the good work

    • @KrimsonRogue
      @KrimsonRogue  Před 9 lety +2

      Thanks, and welcome to the Rogues Gallery! XD

    • @HoodedLord
      @HoodedLord Před 9 lety +1

      KrimsonRogue That was a terrible joke, but I'll let you get away with it because your so funny.

  • @jerrickothomas8345
    @jerrickothomas8345 Před 6 lety +4

    To be honest when I read this book all I could think was " oh great a Hunger Games reject"

  • @demilovato4life1
    @demilovato4life1 Před 9 lety +4

    Found my new favourite channel, your reviews are so right and make me laugh :) thank you for doing them!

  • @soniquecat4745
    @soniquecat4745 Před 4 lety +1

    Deciding which was better in case of Divergent is like deciding if it is better to fall down the stairs or have somebody beat you up

  • @tandemingtroll
    @tandemingtroll Před 9 lety +6

    Have you read Terry Pratchett? Have you watched any of the movies based on his books? I would love to see you review "Hogfather" or "The Color of Magic" or "Going Postal."

  • @AmitCinematicUniverse
    @AmitCinematicUniverse Před 4 lety +3

    you mentioned in this video that you write fanfics, what is your name on fanfiction.net?
    I would love to read some of them one day

  • @rosestar1324
    @rosestar1324 Před 5 lety +4

    Lol my first two Deadpool fanfictions always ended with some kind of cliffhanger

  • @LordHayabusa85
    @LordHayabusa85 Před 8 lety +6

    THANK YOU for the Harry Potter meets Hunger Games joke! I was just about to point that out myself. XD

  • @hannahpense9973
    @hannahpense9973 Před 3 lety +2

    When I started reading this series, the biggest disappointment I had with it-what I felt like - was wasted potential. I started the series wanting to view this society not just from Tri’s perspective, but others. What if someone from Amity wanted to be in Dauntless? What if a Dauntless wanted to be an Erudite? In their society, such characters choosing such factions goes against some of the values their own faction has placed on them, and would then lead to greater conflict both externally and internally for the characters. (We saw this briefly with the guy who had a crush on Tris but then committed suicide as he was from Erudite originally.) I also feel like it’s too easy to write about someone from Abnegation experiencing life in Dauntless, because some of the bravest actions are taken already by the most humble of people - and being brave doesn’t always entail going from a prude to a nude.
    I also feel like it would have made the series so much more interesting if we were watching this society implode from the perspective of a person living in each faction. Is an Erudite convinced their actions will help society, or are they just evil? Is Amity a faction only of tree-hugging hippies, or does someone see the reality of their prison segregated by faction? Is someone from Candor aware that their role of pressing for the truth leads to distrust? These questions could have been made into characters searching for answers.
    You know who would probably have made for a more compelling protagonist, or antagonist?
    Someone who was factionless. Heck, if you make the factionless the antagonist of the series and you have your social commentary aspect to the dystopian novel right there: the underrepresented class of people who rise to usurp the ruling regime so that they finally have a voice and a choice in their government. This sort of revolution has been told before, but it would make more sense in context to the setting of the story.
    I haven’t read the third book, so maybe something like this did happen, but if it didn’t, it was an opportunity to be had that we’ll never get.

  • @spiderq848
    @spiderq848 Před 4 lety +3

    I sort of agree with both of them in this case. I liked the first book alright but didn't think it was particularly special. There was some stuff that was unique but also a lot of the same sorting shtick we've all seen before.
    The second book was fine and I remember the action being decent (it's been a while since I've read them so my memory isn't totally accurate). However the third book is where I have my real issues with the series.
    Again, I might be misremembering but I felt they took a nosedive into romance territory and all of the action I actually kinda cared about got thrown into the backseat. It's one of the few series I never finished because it was such a, divergence (pun intended) from the first two books. I didn't even find out Tris died at the end until years later when I saw someone randomly mention it online.

  • @anajmedeiros
    @anajmedeiros Před 5 lety +5

    To me this series was a guilty pleasure

  • @sm4carnageihope
    @sm4carnageihope Před 9 lety +16

    1. Dying to see you make the Sea of Monsters review.
    2. Do you plan on reviewing anymore comic related movies?
    3. Also you have to review Seventh Son, its not out yet but I can already tell that its gonna suck. I know I should see it first, but come on.
    4. I subscribed.

    • @KrimsonRogue
      @KrimsonRogue  Před 9 lety +2

      1. It's on my list to do. ;)
      2. Actually, my next review after The Hobbit is a graphic novel called Whiteout. If you mean more traditional comics though, I don't have anything planned atm.
      3. Seventh Son? Not familiar with it, but I'll check it out.
      4. Welcome to the Rogues Gallery! XD

    • @sm4carnageihope
      @sm4carnageihope Před 9 lety

      KrimsonRogue Seventh Son, is based on the Last Apprentice/Wardstone Chronicles book series. The first book being Revenge of the Witch/The Spooks Apprentice. The trailer doesn't have a single similarity with the book. The author, Joseph Delaney, claimed that he liked it, but it wasn't a very faithful adaptation. He said that you'll like it as a movie, but probably not as an adaptation. I think its suck either the way.

    • @salenebrom6476
      @salenebrom6476 Před 8 lety

      +KrimsonRogue update?🙃 it's been 10 months

    • @sm4carnageihope
      @sm4carnageihope Před 8 lety

      Salene Brom Update? 10 months since what?

  • @UndeadSlayer5
    @UndeadSlayer5 Před 8 lety +6

    I loved how you forshadowed the Sea of Monsters

  • @Firestar4041
    @Firestar4041 Před 7 lety +4

    I'm apparently divergent according to the test, more kind and intelligent,
    and a coffee table to brighten up everyone day . . . so that was a fun waste of time.

  • @colebuckon3856
    @colebuckon3856 Před 4 lety +3

    There are two things that have always bothered me about this series. I’ve only seen the movies, mind, but these issues are so consistent that I’m certain the come from the source material.
    First: why, exactly, do Erudite and Dauntless want to exterminate Divergents? I know it’s pandering to us with the “free thought in the face of the illogical system” idea, but it makes zero sense in-universe. If no one acknowledged Divergents, they’d function just fine within their chosen factions, right? The Choosing should overrule the test results, anyway. If they need to be acknowledged, by not use them as coordinators and ambassadors? Why not just throw them out with the Factionless? There are so many less difficult and more beneficially options than a coup to enable an extermination - particularly when we never see any reason why Janine would consider them a threat in the first place. Was a scene cut from the book where a a Divergent tries to change factions after the choosing? At least that would mark Divergents as an element that couldn’t be controlled.
    Second: character introductions. Is it just me, or do way too many characters just bluntly introduce themselves, usually by just their first name? I know not all the introductions are like this, but I’m pretty sure there’s a counting gag to be had there.

  • @skadi6750
    @skadi6750 Před 7 lety +5

    The class system is explained in next books as a big reveal. It has logic.

  • @kfizzledizzle8467
    @kfizzledizzle8467 Před 9 lety +17

    so, are you going to review sea of monsters? I loved the book and hated the movie. (just like everyone else)

  • @lopezcarlos24
    @lopezcarlos24 Před 9 lety +2

    Another fun and great review. the crossover was a good change of pace.
    Any chance you will ever do "all you need is kill/edge of tomorrow?"

  • @gildartswinters4984
    @gildartswinters4984 Před 7 lety +8

    The part in which Shay dives on the dog and they both sink into the floor looks like she is trying to go doggie style on the dog. Kinda like Whitney Wisconsin, do not look this up.

  • @dftbawolf
    @dftbawolf Před 6 lety +2

    She's got a point. I couldn't even finish the second book. Barely remember the book which is rare for me. And i got Amity

  • @UndeadSlayer5
    @UndeadSlayer5 Před 8 lety +1

    What i love about your channel is that you cover adaptations that people just brushed aside like it wasn't worth watching like Eragon and Inkheart and even if they did cover it you explain more in depth Nostalgia Critic style you have great future my friend i just hope that you could get more content uploaded but keeping your passion and creativity intact.

    • @KrimsonRogue
      @KrimsonRogue  Před 8 lety +1

      Thanks! Glad you enjoy the channel! :D There's new content every Saturday, so hopefully you'll have plenty to be entertained by. :)

    • @UndeadSlayer5
      @UndeadSlayer5 Před 8 lety

      KrimsonRogue No problem also can you review doom and alone in the dark

    • @KrimsonRogue
      @KrimsonRogue  Před 8 lety +2

      Actually, I already reviewed Doom. Alone in the Dark I can add to the review list though.

    • @UndeadSlayer5
      @UndeadSlayer5 Před 8 lety

      KrimsonRogue ok

  • @FriarTug
    @FriarTug Před 9 lety +5

    Huh, I was kind of expecting some comparisons to The Hunger Games. Every time someone reviews this movie it is just filled with "It's basically The Hunger Games" jokes. It's kind of refreshing to hear a new take on it.
    As for the review itself, though: 4/5. It needed more Onion Cat.

    • @LeafingThroughTheFrames
      @LeafingThroughTheFrames Před 9 lety +3

      We were thinking of mentioning Hunger Games but eventually I don't think it fit into the pacing of the review. But yeah, even Honest Trailers did the whole HG spin on Divergent. lol Besides, the way I see it is HG is good, and Divergent is not :P.

    • @raudello3666
      @raudello3666 Před 4 lety +1

      @@LeafingThroughTheFrames Agreed

  • @queendsheena1
    @queendsheena1 Před 6 lety +3

    I loved the book and thought the movie was good on first viewing. But later on, realized it was an underwhelming adaptation. Not the best but definitely not the worst. Your dual reviews were fun to watch.

  • @thebigcanoftuna
    @thebigcanoftuna Před 9 lety +2

    I never saw the movie since it never came out in Japan, but I thought all the kids were supposed to be like 16...they all look so much older

  • @trishareddy2570
    @trishareddy2570 Před 5 lety +9

    The first book was decent. The second book and third book were god damn awful

  • @XX-dz5kc
    @XX-dz5kc Před 6 lety +16

    Could you read the Host, please?

    • @Dreamlillie_95
      @Dreamlillie_95 Před 6 lety +2

      X X Ooh! That’s a good one, I second that!

    • @lunabearsong2043
      @lunabearsong2043 Před 5 lety +1

      PLEASE read and review The Host! It would be awesome after Twilight franchise (if you finish it)!

  • @michaelgriswold5663
    @michaelgriswold5663 Před 4 lety

    The thing that I enjoy the most about this book series is the technology/serum and environments. Yes, the characters are a bit bland, but the world is amazing. Especially the detail that each faction has a special serum that fits their valued trait. As well as the whole experiment aspect in the third book.

  • @xgray2012
    @xgray2012 Před 8 lety +5

    @07:15-07:20
    Lol!!!! Thumbs up, if anyone actually understood that joke from the honest trailer of this movie.

  • @ektatinu4568
    @ektatinu4568 Před 4 lety +17

    Hated the book. Bland, predictable...how having atleast 3 basic virtues makes you some sort of superhuman.
    The only reason why tris even shines is because she's a regular person in a metropolis where lacking perception and insight is normal.
    What I hate about this book is how it limits how complex people can be. 5 basic virtues cannot constitute an entire personality. Virtues and abilities are fluid. They change with experience and circumstances.

  • @TheRantsOfABookWorm
    @TheRantsOfABookWorm Před 9 lety +30

    please please please do Percy Jackson Sea of Monsters it sucks so much!

    • @KrimsonRogue
      @KrimsonRogue  Před 9 lety +6

      TheRantsOfABookWorm Eh, I dunno. I might. ;)

    • @TheRantsOfABookWorm
      @TheRantsOfABookWorm Před 9 lety +1

      yey! #hopeful

    • @myasmith2662
      @myasmith2662 Před 9 lety +3

      PLEASE DO THE PJSOM!!!!

    • @paulkriikku4882
      @paulkriikku4882 Před 9 lety

      I may be crucified for this, but despite the movie being horrible, I loved seeing the characters of my favorite book in real life. They are bad but they do try.

    • @prussianlord4066
      @prussianlord4066 Před 9 lety

      Agree

  • @fandomcringebucket
    @fandomcringebucket Před 3 lety +1

    so when can we hope to see stories about divergence from the norm not by your own choice, by neurodivergent/generally divergent (disabled, etc.) people?

  • @chrysalis46
    @chrysalis46 Před 9 lety +1

    I just noticed the sword of truth series on your shelf! Perhaps you could do a review of the short lived TV series? :)

  • @TheArmouredAlechemist
    @TheArmouredAlechemist Před 8 lety +21

    PLEASE REVEIW THE FAULT IN OUR STARS!!!!!

    • @KrimsonRogue
      @KrimsonRogue  Před 8 lety +14

      Just added it to the list!

    • @TheArmouredAlechemist
      @TheArmouredAlechemist Před 8 lety +4

      KrimsonRogue
      Yay! And thank you for replying

    • @robertwalker5794
      @robertwalker5794 Před 7 lety +2

      KrimsonRogue You'd better do Percy Jackson Sea of Monsters or I'm going to do to who what Percy did to Antaeus in Battle of the Labyrinth.

    • @l.tc.5032
      @l.tc.5032 Před 7 lety

      Mephisto Pheles god I hate that book. Man fuck that offensive piece of crap.

    • @TheArmouredAlechemist
      @TheArmouredAlechemist Před 7 lety +3

      L. T C.
      Meh each to their own i'm sure I hate something you like so it's up to you

  • @GleeChan
    @GleeChan Před 3 lety +1

    I agree with Diane. Divergent is the only book that I finished where when I was done reading it I threw it across the room then flicked off. Mind you, I was in the living room at the time, thus startled everyone in the room...who then had to listen to me tirade about how bad it was for thirty minutes. The book was written in a way where things seemed seemed like they were going so where so telegraphed and cliche moments may be just disguise for a twist. But nope, twists never came. Everything on page is... well on page... and all the cliche troupes I thought were clever subversions were just what they appeared to be.

  • @slytherclawgaming
    @slytherclawgaming Před 9 lety

    I have to say I agree with your comments about the book though I haven't seen the movie I picked up this book today and have been unable to put it down. I am really looking forward to seeing another review from you.

  • @newbielives
    @newbielives Před 9 lety +11

    Diane you're hilarious as usual, you deserve way more subscribers

  • @ericgreen2125
    @ericgreen2125 Před 7 lety +1

    so many characters where left behind in the movie. ie Zack the dude that Peter stabbed in the eye. that dude's girlfriend. those three daughtless born recruits that welcomed tris and took her zip lining.

  • @TheIdealofGreed
    @TheIdealofGreed Před 6 lety

    Is there anyplace where I can watch Krimson Rogues time travelers wife and the city of bones reviews?

  • @madeleinerenee8505
    @madeleinerenee8505 Před 8 lety +3

    even over how much I loved the book and movie, i have to agree with her all the characters did kinda have the same personality

  • @undeadbandit835
    @undeadbandit835 Před 4 lety +2

    when i read divergent i was laughing from a to z it was so stupid and ridiculous, but when i saw the film i was laughing and crying at the same time how horrible it was

  • @ShadowWolfRising
    @ShadowWolfRising Před 9 lety +1

    Throw the Temeraire book series at her.
    It's fantastic.

  • @gxs2542
    @gxs2542 Před 4 lety +1

    I was really impressed with the amount of emotion she portrayed when her mom died and it was actually sort of emotional so good acting on her part but the film did miss out or misinterpret many small but crucial details in the book

  • @zackkarma7760
    @zackkarma7760 Před 5 lety +1

    even the book seemed like a copy of hunger games

  • @RoninS636
    @RoninS636 Před 9 lety +1

    You should've used the clip from Starship Troopers were Clancy Brown throws the knife into the Busey's hand. Other than that, well done.

  • @hannah_p
    @hannah_p Před 4 lety +2

    The way I see it, a Divergent is basically a normal human being in a world with Factions. They don’t fit into one faction because they have more than one trait. JUST LIKE A NORMAL HUMAN BEING.

    • @lahlybird895
      @lahlybird895 Před 4 lety +1

      I think that's the point

    • @hannah_p
      @hannah_p Před 4 lety

      Lahly Bird yeah, I realize that now that I’ve started reading Allegiant.

  • @TGA_BAY_BAY
    @TGA_BAY_BAY Před 7 lety +2

    Someone watched the Lego Movie with Double Decker Couch.

  • @natalie_the_ratalie
    @natalie_the_ratalie Před 4 lety +1

    “it’s now we hear about Peter, the dick who’s been harassing Tris.”
    me: okay, I remember Peter from the book. He really was an assho-
    *film clip plays*
    me: WHAT THE FUCK IS MILES TELLER DOING IN THIS MOVIE? HE’S TOO GOOD FOR THIS DAMMIT

  • @warrirornunluv801
    @warrirornunluv801 Před 9 lety

    Hey, is there any chance that you might share your thoughts on Coraline?

  • @ashlazdanovich8396
    @ashlazdanovich8396 Před 4 lety

    I liked the book.
    But the only thing I didn’t like was how the first person writing was.
    It was hard for me to follow but after watching the movie I liked the book way better.
    I also liked the two view points and reasons for each point.
    Great job 👍

  • @gabbyroach5889
    @gabbyroach5889 Před 4 lety

    Gosh I just love the divergent series so much!!

  • @selenaherself
    @selenaherself Před rokem

    Hell yeah, Tris' mother's death scene was the best one indeed. The way Tris yells "No! Stop!" to shooters attacking them shows how grief-striken she is; she doesn't even care about the main conflict at this moment, she just wants everyone to stop fighting so she can stay with her mom for a moment. (Or, at least, that's how I see it) Also, the actress' performance here is pretty solid, tears every time.
    For some reason, I still like the first movie, even taking all its flaws into account. I actually watched the movie first and it made me read the first two books. The first one, like the movie, was pretty decent for 15-year-old me. I don't even remember finishing the second one though.

  • @antoniobluregard3089
    @antoniobluregard3089 Před 5 lety +4

    this guy is a mix of bobsheaux and nostalgia critic but they review book movies instead of regular ones

  • @lozza_dragon
    @lozza_dragon Před 8 lety +1

    Very funny and interesting! Having two different perspectives is cool, will you be doing another colab? Well done :)

    • @KrimsonRogue
      @KrimsonRogue  Před 8 lety

      +Laura Hardie I'm hoping to do another collab for Hunger Games if I can manage it.

    • @lozza_dragon
      @lozza_dragon Před 8 lety

      Cool!!

  • @AmitCinematicUniverse
    @AmitCinematicUniverse Před 4 lety +2

    can you do the rest of the movies?

  • @evananouna6840
    @evananouna6840 Před 8 lety

    I got Amity. Which is perfect for me since I love animals and agriculture.