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The Book Was Better: City of Ember Review
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- čas přidán 16. 06. 2014
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Of course there is a religion based on construction! Bow to our saviors, Bob the Builder and Fix-it-Felix!
+Kayoyo H, Praise the alliterative construction workers!
point is people will belive anything if told so from early age... the lie was constructed by the higherups in ember to keep the rest of the pople working for them and in the shadows..
Fix-it-Felix fixes broken windows with a hammer
Handy Manny is a false prophet.
Oh ye of little faith, it is the constructicons to whom we pray.
But there IS more to a bottle cap! You can use it for trading for supplies and armour. And mines.
I was so mad with myself when I realized that I missed that joke after I posted this episode. Massive brain fart on my part. XP
KrimsonRogue you can also make jewelry out of it, its still a stupid line though.
And Hyper Training, apparently.
Actually, in the movie the no-phones thing was explained that there was a telephone network in the city previously, but that in 200 years its simply broken down and so the messenger service was created to compensate, as more and more of the old technology just breaks down
which chapter of the film was this?
i was asking same thing after watching this, rotary phone system with automated units could of survived with ease of 50 yr , and if u had a spear units u could run the system für 200 years in ease, hell in Germany, some of the units are still in use.... allso if amotmated system is not a good way to go.... why not use the sentral countrol station, where humans connected the calls just like in the beginning of the rotary phone service, that way no complicated electronial system would be needed....
I think thats because they needed power for the generator so they could keep it running for years after the 200 time limit
@@tanello2 Commenting kind of late, but anyways -
In the book, it is explained that the builders who build the city decided to populate the city with old people and kids - old people were supposed to raise the kids to form the future generations and teach them how to operate the city, but they were prohibited to tell them how they got there or what happened, pretty much shield them from the history ( not exactly sure why, because they didn't want them to make the same mistakes as their generation ? Idk ), so they took the history and knowledge with themselves to their graves.
The knowledge how to operate the city was passed down likely by word ( which is further supported by the scene where the old generator guy teaches Doon what to do ) and as it goes with passing information down by words, the information gets twisted. So likely why they dont have a telephone system is, because noone understands how it works and noone knows how to fix it ( Why is it broken ? - I would suspect humidity, as underground areas can be pretty humid which is probably damaging to most of the electronics at some point, but that is just a speculation ).
I think that that reason is likely why the generator is not fixed - because they do not know how it works. If we assumed that the generator was working on the principe of water mill ( as can be seen in the movie ), I would say it is rather simple fix ( if you have the right parts ) - I think that the problem with the generator is likely worn our bearings, gears and other moving parts in the system. It could be that the bearings are worn out and get stuck from now and than which makes the shaft stop, therefore causing the blackouts or something similar to that.
Some people could say that it doesn't explain why there is steam at the generator and such heat, but I think that that may be, partially because of the high voltages in running in the place or more likely it could be that the generator also uses part of it's power production to create steam to than heat the city, because it gets pretty cold underground. ( May also be that it also uses geothermal power as well to produce even more power ).
@@milokojjones Personally I think they were intended to not tell history because it would cause the children to become curious and want to venture out.
I remember the city being underground as a twist in the book, but i read it when i was like 9
Well if this IS Vault 101, then the bottle caps are also currency.
( 4:50 and 12:22 ) I think “There’s more to a bottle cap than keeping liquid from leaking out of glass” means that bottle caps are boring once you take them off but they have an interesting manufacturing process since most people look at a bottle cap as something that stops liquid leaking out of glass. By investigating things that others do not, you find that they are more interesting ie the metal has to be shaped and moulded through pressing and its plastic seal installed making the bottle cap since most people don’t think about this.
In essence his father is saying to be curious about things that are under his nose. Since being curious about bottle caps you find that the caps are more complex. its advice.
What?
the quote is about curiosity
oh i was trying to think about it much more directly, like "it stops air getting in" or "it keeps it under pressure" or even "subtle aesthetic manipulation"
Also, I thought it was a reference to the actually useful advice he says just after the bottle cap line... The sentence about knowing what others don't know by looking at things others don't notice... Just like his rather useless first plan of escape, the bottle cap line is only a maybe-sensed, surely not-working thing, while it helps understanding and remembering the sentence that comes after (Doon findings about the plan to leave the city)
Or, what he means is that bottle caps are also currency!
I think that contraption Doon's dad made that Doon & Lyna rode in was an experiment in transporting light/electricity electricity so that they can get "out". What I find weird about that scene is that they didnt need to dig anywhere; in the book their was plenty of room outside the city of Ember to just...wander. Ppl had been known to go running into the darkness to see what's out there. The few that made it back would be a rambling mess, mad from the constant and total darkness. That to me is terrifying and I wish the movie had explored that a bit more.
This was one of those movies i watched when i was so young that later in life i thought it was just a weird dream i had at some point in my childhood.
I could always remember the mole scene and Lina reaching for the box but that was literally it, and for years I had no idea what movie it was
since this is never getting a sequal,we need a Netflix show,unfortunate events showed they are good.
There will probably never be a reboot: The book isn't particularly popular so nobody's desperate to adapt it and the movie lost more than 50 million dollars.
just watch the 100, it has the same concept
@@kakachiuchitake7509 dude the 100 has the most plot twists from any show I have ever watched it was good then it was crazy then I'm like am I even watching the same show lol.
Maybe the bottle cap line was meant to refer to the exit out of Ember.
The entire "more than keeping the water from leaking out" thing might have been an attempt at telling him that there was an additional reason for Ember being sealed, save the fact that it probably kept the citizens alive...
Of course there's still the possibillity that the guy who wrote the manuscript was terribly drunk or something while doing it...
Lol, perhaps. The former option is an interesting thought though, I'll give you that.
I interpreted it as bottle caps also keep the liquid inside safe from outside contaminates
12:24 it means just because society wants you to do something like containing liquid, does mean you can't do more, FYI the robots were made out of old stuff, including bottle caps.
I reread Ember recently because who didn't need a hit of rose-tinted childhood in the past couple years, and I think it was an incredibly bold decision to have the Twist Reveal scene be the first scene in the novel. It set it apart from other similar post-apocalyptic novels of the time. The megafauna from the movie weren't present at all in the book, instead Doon had found a regular size caterpillar and raised it to adulthood, sort of as a metaphor for Ember itself.
the bottlecap line adds to the "Ember is vault 101" joke theory. the other use is for currency.
Maybe the lights on the cart were created as part of the escape plan and were forgotten about after Lina's dad died. It would explain why nobody used them after that - the only people who cared enough to escape gave up because dying wasn't worth it
Also, the power surges near the end of the movie were from the generator being overloaded, not breaking down
Yes the grandma is senile, but the first scene we see her in, she's asked where Poppy is, and she hands over the yarn that leads to her very quickly. She's senile but give her some props, she's doing her best 😅
The bottle cap line is referencing its role as the instrument to keeping a bottle sealed up, but also being the way for it to open and release its contents.
bottlecaps can help keep your crust at an even width when rolling the dough out with a rolling pin. I saw it on a Tasty pie video
3:34 The first time I was introduced to Fallout, I immediately thought of this book.
The book was WAYYYYYYYY I mean like WAYYYYYY better
I wouldn't say the book's a masterpeice, but it was a lot better than the movie.
Have you read the 2,3,and 4th part because im on the 4th part
The father is obviously trying to show Doon how to make a Bottlecap Mine.
Lol, entirely possible. XD
*Doon
KrimsonRogue I hate you
really liked the steampunk sort of brown aesthetic the city got
this book was my introduction to stories like Maze Runner and Attack on Titan (which I consider to be one of the greatest pieces of art, of all time)
I watched this movie totally on a acident. It was for free on the pay per view thing on tv. I fell in love with it and for the life of me could not find the name of it in english again after all this years. I am buying the movie and the books right now.
I personally love Post-apocalypse stories. I love City of ember, one of my favorites on my top 10 list. This book was one of those, that your reading school teacher tells you to read. I love the movie cause of how much I liked the book. I think it was a good adaptation. I may be a little biased. With all of the fallout 3 references I think I’m seeing why I like this book and movie so much. xD I love this review and I’m glad you liked the movie in the end.
This and the graphic novel series "Amulet" were like the staples of my childhood. Lmao fr Ember was a book that i _actually_ read (over and over) and not just like stare at the cover and get too lazy to read it. A job well done Jean. 👏
Interesting story, Jeanne DuPrau came to my elementary school when I was in third grade. Apparently she left a bad impression on my mother, the assistant principal at the time. I have no memory of seeing her speak or meeting her, but I still have the books signed and personalized to me. The first signed books I ever got.
This was one of my favorite books as a young teen. To this day, I still remember the exact mental picture of many key locations. I haven't read it in probably 15 years but it must have had damn good imagery to stick with me like that. This book was actually a direct transition into the Fallout franchises for me because a school friend gave me a copy of fallout one and two since the concept reminded him of vaults.
I was contemplating the "There is more to a bottle cap..." line in an attempt to understand deeper meaning and profundity within it. Then I got distracted when I discovered that Onion Cat has telepathic powers!
Onion Cat can meow without moving her mouth.
Onion Cat: She is the hero CZcams deserves, but not the hero it need right now.
Because this ball of yarn will not unravel itself.
Do it for Grandma, Onion Cat. Do it for Crazy Grandma.
... After, your warm laundry nap, of course.
Sadly, Leia can't deliver her lines very well, so they all have to be dubbed in. :P
KrimsonRogue so if she could would u get her to do the raging?
Oh wow, I completely forgot that I saw this in cinema as a kid. Took about halfway into the video for me to go "...wait a minute." and remember the film.
There is also that weird glowing ball thing the somehow shoots miles into the sky during blackouts without doing any damage what so ever.
The bottle cap line could mean things can have uses outside of their intended use or things can have multiple uses.
rewatching this, I realised something: Why does everyone have multiple lights turned on at all times? Wouldn't that strain the generator more? One light per room, use as many white-ish materials as possible so they reflect the light around. That way there's enough light for day to day activities and the generator lasts for a bit longer.
This movie made me fall in love with film soundtracks. My God, it's amazing! I forgot how much I loved it. And the movie wasn't terrible, but it wasn't good. We read the book in my 6th grade class before the movie came out and then we watched the movie and compared it to the book.
“There’s more to a bottle cap then keeping liquid in a glass bottle.”
I searched it up and it means to look closer and deeper.
The giant animals were likely a reference to The Underland Chronicles by Suzanne Collins. That series is also about people living in an underground city, and giant animals like bats and rats play a large role in the story.
Is the mayors assistant played by Peter Petigrew? He looks familiar from SOMEWHERE, and I can't help but think "Peter Petigrew."
David Spring he was in captain America as the red skull scientist
Also, Dobby.
David Spring also, ahum..*cough*...GOLLUM GOLLUM
Wasn't he also that one dude in the mist? The one that shot that crazy lady, carmady?
eru iluvatar That's Andy Serkis.
9:06 My exact reaction when I saw that mole.
Loved recognizing Saorise Ronan and one of the grandmothers from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.
19:57 It's something about that pan up shot combined with the Punusher shirt, the music, and the stoic, quiet intensity of Raem that is extremely dark, poetic, and dangerous. Excellent work! 💖💖💖
Speaking of the music; does anyone know, or at least have a link, to what this song is? I asked Krim in the Green Lantern video I didn't get a good answer 🤔
I think the bottle cap thing is a metaphor that means that you can do more than what people say you can or something
How did I miss this episode?! Yay new episode that I didn't realize existed until just now!
Lol, always glad to have your input Zombiefan! XD
I read City of Ember in middle school and actually saw the movie theaters. I had all but forgotten it until recently when thinking about the movies I saw in theaters.
"The book didn't include them" - Yes, actually it did. But after almost 5 years, I'm betting that's been noted.
Idk i hate the movie because a huuuuugggge plot point was that they didn't know they were underground the book just says it upfront
I thought it was the other way around
@@QuikVidGuy it is
It’s the other way around
The book makes it clear to the reader that the citizens are underground, but the characters didn't know.
I loved this book, I only read the 1st one but I love the setting, it makes the whole story different from run if the mill type dystopian futures like Hunger Games & Maze Runner.
I know this is old
but how are the rest of the townsfolk supposed to escape the city of ember if there’s only one boat left?
and there’s more than 50 people that need to get on it
And more importantly how will they get back through the cavern that’s filled with water they don’t have scuba gear so…
This movie left a really big plot hole
In the book there was a whole warehouse full of boats.
One problem with the escape. The pipeworks are below ember and when they catch that charming boat, they go down a tunnel and later down a water fall, at this point, they are around 1 kilometer below ember.The stair way they come to does not look that tall and has a light at the top of it which indicates that that was the way out. Now they exit on a Mountain but they were WAY Ember even after climbing the stairs, this is shown when they look back down at ember which for the light of the hole to not affect the lighting of the city, lets say 20 + (probably way more) Kilometers above. Even if the stairs did go all the way up, that is a LONG way to walk and the stone they through down would have reached terminal velocity easily meaning that when it landed, it would have shattered, but hey, I love this movie. Oh and I say it is on top of a Mountain because of the cloud height and some other geographical features
The Senate you know what ember could use?
A sheev palpatine
*W O A H S C I E N C E*
But I thought that you weren't the Senate just yet.
Well the rock lands on a cloth, so thats why ot does not shatter, but the rest of your comment is true.
@@eruiluvatar7155 You know what ember could use?
LED lightbulbs.
Did the members of Ember know they were underground? I haven’t read the book YET but the movie interested me enough to want to. The idea of going inward instead of ‘outward’ so to speak really intrigued me.
I loved this book so much when I was little. People of sparks was also a great read for me.
I watched this way before reading the book. It was my favourite movie for a few years growing up, I'd watch it almost every day 😂 then turns out my high school friend had the first book and wow, it was even better. Still love this story many years later
Lol when the mole passed by and Srgt. Hartmans voice said "What the fuck is that!" I fucking lost it. I've heard the line 1000 times but this time it took me off gaurd. Thanks for that. rofl
I CAN NOT FIND THE SOUNDTRACK ANYWHERE! SOMEONE HELP ME PLEASE!
I love this movie I watched it when it first came out in 2008 I was 6 years old and I always thought Doon was a teenager
I used to use bottle caps for Barbie plates
are we just gonna ignore how assignment day in city of ember is literally ceremony of 12 in the giver ? i mean could’ve at least made the age 13 or something 😂
What is the song used for Raem? It sounds so familiar and it's driving me nuts! Lol
It's a riff from GarageBand. I think it's called 'Motorcross' or similar.
I found this movie by accident while zapping, and I actually loved it! Of course I haven't read the book, and I can recognize its flaws, but I still think they did many things right, especially with the details of the environment and explaining how things are failing in the city (like the telephone network being broken, or not having spare pipes for repairs).
Spare pipe scene. That had me dying.
I love your videos. I myself am writing a book as a means to produce a show, so your review gives great insight to both forms of media.
I hope it's coming along great!
I really liked this movie when it came out. And after watching this, I was glad someone else did too. Looks like I'll be checking out the book.
Was the whole series as good?
I kind of liked this movie when it came out, not amazing but it was fun and I really liked youre review.
Would be cool if you find other people on youtube or other media to work with and make reviews, like channel awesome.
Funny that you mention that. I did apply to their recent talent search. Maybe if they take me in I can get the Nostalgia Critic or Linkara on my show one day. XD
KrimsonRogue That's great news I think you'd make a great addition to the channel :D
Thanks! XD But the suspense is killing me. o.o
I've never read the book, and because of that, the movie was literally one of my favorites. It's very hard to explain why I like it so much, maybe it's very different than a lot of movies I've ever seen with the whole going underground and waiting out the bad, resources are dying, though sadly that method has been used a lot now, either by going into space or going underground, planning to return eventually but waiting until your resources are almost gone... I guess it was original for its time. And the thing that you may not understand at all is I feel a sense of hope from this movie with everything.
And because of your review, I'm tempted to check out the book and see if it amazes me more than the movie.
The book is enjoyable, and I've been meaning to check out the sequels as well. I've been told they're all pretty fun! :D
i wathced the movie and read all 4 books in the series
@@KrimsonRogue I read all the books and enjoyed *most of them.* I didn't enjoy The Prophet of Yonwood for some reason. Maybe it was the concept I found stupid or something. I'll have to give 'er another shot some day.
A bottle cap is worth currency. I enjoyed this movie because it was as close to Fallout as it could get.
I would have liked the movie a lot better if they hadn't spoiled the twist at the end in the trailer!
The bottle cap thing is just what you said, a general term for life, even the simplest items have a multitude of uses, if you have the mind to see them.
Please review A Series of Unfortunate Events movie. Also mention Netflix is doing a series on it.
How 'fortunate' that my gf has all the books. I'll add the movie to my review list. Also, Netflix is doing a series on it? News to me. :P
KrimsonRogue you have a gf? No offence, but for some reason I thought you were gay
We both read that and she burst out laughing. XD
KrimsonRogue I have no idea why, but at some point on one of your videos i made that assumption.
Oh my gosh! Lina's grandma is played by Baylene!
You know, the brachiosaur from Dinosaur!?
Commence watching at 3:30 in the morning.
Ur first
I had never seen the book but I love this movie and the world they built. I wish there was more to it and it seems the book has what I was looking for.
I should mention that the movie spoils the big reveal of being underground in the beginning exposition lmao
My biggest complaint about the movie was the complexity of the way out. It was a complex machine that was bound to break after 200 years. The way out in the book was just a locked and secret room full of boats which is ten thousand times more reliable.
Damn
this movie always reminded me of the song "The World's End Umbrella", and vice versa.
I laughed at the part with Harry Treadaway where Doon Harrow is supposed to be 12 but this guy was 24
DAMN
Reminds me of how the original halloween casted 40 year olds as teens
This is a weird video to find someone making good content!but great job man! Love the jokes and appreciation of detail. Overall I think you nailed the movie! Got a sub from me
For a city that is running out of power these guys sure use a LOT of lights constantly, if I was living there I'd probably make sure to not leave lights on absolutely everywhere, especially in rooms or parts of the house I'm not using, and probably make it a crime to do so. That generator was probably meant to last 1000 years but people thought "fuck it we have enough energy" and turned on every light they could find and destroyed the switch.
Wait random thought but how did they get air down there?
3:03-3:07 David Lynch's Dune...Are you planning on doing a review of that movie? Because I'd really like to hear your opinion on it. Yes, I know most of the films you review are newer films, and this movie is like a bajillion years old. But I'd still like to know.
I really like the music, but there was *one* scene that *ruined* the movie for me. a mysterious mystical score would've been amazing in the scene where the boats are revealed, but they added an epic sounding score as if the audience was supposed to be amazed. I Really liked the score, but in my opinion it didn't fit with the scene at *all* since not much was even happening.
Also (again, in my opinion) the acting/story seemed a bit rushed... tbh it almost seems like it could've worked out better as a mini-series
Andrew 77 me and my friends watched this, we were at that scene like this: BUT THAT WAS SO OBVIOUS UGH
I'm Poppy.I'm Poppy. I am Poppy
its crazy that there was a time when there would be any remotely positive feelings when hearing the words "the giver" and "movie" in the same sentence
I’ve been trying to find the name of this movie for the last ELEVEN YEARS.
I think that line means don't look at the surface look what's beyond it........?
Where'd you get your feder from?
I think Grandma has dementia....Poor Grandma...
maybe Netflix will do an adaption. they have a decent track record with adaptions of books and old tv shows.
I love this movie (and the books). My friends and I had a great movie night watching it. I do get though why they never made movies out of the other books. The first book is really the most interesting one.
Nice Cliffhanger! Can't wait to see what's next on the list.
Spoilers:
So I REALLY loved one change from the book and that's the fact that Doon's father is the one that finds the note that him and Lina dropped down in the end. In the book it was the neighbor woman that found it. Which always really annoyed me.
*SPOILER ALERT*
For some reason, in the movie, they forgot so many important things! Such as Poppy getting lost in the dark, or Doon throwing a fit over messenger. There was also this weird creature that had nothing to do with anything.
some things are cut out of a movie to save on time, a 90 minute movie has more restrictions than a book.
Great review!
Thunder Goku I really prefer the book
This was my favorite movie when I was 8-10 and I still really like it :v I just found out it had more books so I'm probably going to buy them and read all of them ^^
i just watched city of ember just now. im curious for what you have to say.
There's more to a bottle cap than keeping liquid from leaking out of glass. The main thing is: pay attention, pay attention to everything, everything you see. Notice what no one else notice, and you'll see what no one else knows. What you get is what you get, what you do with what you get, that's more the point.
"There's more to a bottle cap than keeping the liquid from pouring out" Hmm... Well in the MLP Fanfic Fallout Equestria bottle caps are used a currency.. That's the only thing I can think off
honestly grandma was the best part of the whole movie
The bugs were not that big in the book, unless I missed something.
There were also no telephones.
And no giant mole.
I have a book report to finish tomorrow this kinda helped
i have a question what was with the giant moth and mole??
I'm guessing radiation
Dude, you should replace nostalgia critic! You fucking rule!!!
Doesn't he? He's more grounded, and since he's not trying so hard, he's actually funnier.
Reyna Tide ^ Some of my favorite comments so far. XD
I really loved the whole idea of the book series; I was a little disappointed in the overall series story but its ideas are so cool.
I loved how in Ember's city library, the books are mostly handwritten and clumsily hand bound. It's been a long time since I read it but I think Dune tries to research 'fire' since they only know of fire from electrical accidents, not with wood and not as a tool at all. What info he managed to find was simple opinions and incorrect info.
It's also interesting to see a group of ppl so ignorant yet at the same time using 'modern' tech like the electricity; it's the lifeblood of their city yet (if I remember correctly) they don't really know how the nearby river creates electricity with the almighty generator.
theres something about City of Ember that makes it so memorable to me, idk why
There's more to a bottle cap than keeping liquid from leaking out of glass... because it serves as suitable currency in a post-apocalyptic world.
There's more to a bottle cap than keeping liquid from leaking out of glass.....because you can cut people with them. And defend yourself from moles!