Doc Rivers Shares Why Coaching Ben Simmons Was Frustrating | 10/25/23

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  • čas přidán 24. 10. 2023
  • ESPN NBA analyst and former Celtics, Clippers and 76ers head coach Doc Rivers joins the Dan Patrick Show and discusses why coaching Ben Simmons was frustrating
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  • @Sotanath86q
    @Sotanath86q Před 6 měsíci +281

    I've never seen ANY coach throw players under the bus as much as Rivers does

    • @ike.o6944
      @ike.o6944 Před 6 měsíci

      😂😂😂☠️☠️☠️

    • @iloveyoumadhuri
      @iloveyoumadhuri Před 6 měsíci

      Well, don’t complain if you want honesty. Besides, he may as well Bitch considering how much less money he earns than players do. Also, Josh Harris and Darryl Morey made these players monsters anyway.

    • @Justo_racks_onMe
      @Justo_racks_onMe Před 6 měsíci +12

      No one throws embiid under the bus cuz he’s putting in work

    • @markharrison6498
      @markharrison6498 Před 6 měsíci +10

      @@Justo_racks_onMepeople don’t throw embiid under the bus because he’s driving.

    • @markydan1232
      @markydan1232 Před 6 měsíci +20

      Are you kidding me? Ben threw himself under the damn bus 🤣

  • @mbuvito
    @mbuvito Před 5 měsíci +9

    Now ask the players how frustrating it is to have Doc Rivers as your coach

  • @brandonmoskos9149
    @brandonmoskos9149 Před 6 měsíci +15

    Doc is the king of blowing 3-1 leads.

  • @mihadferatovic2353
    @mihadferatovic2353 Před 6 měsíci +90

    An overrated coach explaining which entitled player was more entitled lol

    • @sleepyjoeb.8726
      @sleepyjoeb.8726 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Very well said

    • @user-zo5xj8ws6r
      @user-zo5xj8ws6r Před 6 měsíci +1

      👏🏽 👏🏽 👏🏽 👏🏽 👏🏽 👏🏽 👏🏽 👏🏽

    • @jakem4361
      @jakem4361 Před 6 měsíci +2

      only coach to blow 3 3-1 leads. with only one championship. agreed. very overrated.

    • @roboninja3194
      @roboninja3194 Před 6 měsíci

      That entire Sixers team was overrated. Harden will never get a ring. Embiid won't get one in Philly and all he seems to care about is the MVP. Simmons was a head case. Harris might be 1 of the most overrated players in NBA history. And Doc the garbage coach. Even Morey is overrated. He's proven he can't build a team that actually contends. You're not a team competing for the chip when ya lose in the 2nd round every season.

    • @silewis9396
      @silewis9396 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@jakem4361only one championship like they get handed out to you 😂

  • @bruceg8612
    @bruceg8612 Před 6 měsíci +49

    Doc must not love basketball. He has been exposed in the play-offs.

    • @kevinlakeman5043
      @kevinlakeman5043 Před 6 měsíci +8

      Not sure what the 'play-offs' are, but in the 'playoffs' he's also led a team to the finals twice and won a title. That's more than 90% of coaches in the league now can say. Besides Popovich, Spoelstra and Kerr (all of whom coached LOADED teams w/ multiple HOFers in their prime), who else has done more or hasn't been 'exposed' in the playoffs? Vogel? Ha, nope. Carlisle? Not to mention the great majority of coaches who haven't won a single title.

    • @keltners613
      @keltners613 Před 6 měsíci +2

      led, really kg allen pierce led that team. do he need 3 smart player to win. todays nba thats very rare, thats why luka, jokic and lebron are great today they smart

    • @B7k7n
      @B7k7n Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@@kevinlakeman5043ime led a team to a final on his first year as hc

    • @jongkim8059
      @jongkim8059 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@kevinlakeman5043 he had 3 hall of famers. He shoulda earned 2 rings at least with that level of talent

    • @hannah60000
      @hannah60000 Před 4 měsíci

      @@kevinlakeman5043 How petty, you know what they meant by “play-offs”.

  • @clarencecarter2361
    @clarencecarter2361 Před 6 měsíci +26

    When Doc first got the Sixers job they asked him about Ben Simmons shooting, and I quote: "Ben doesn't need to shoot." That's when I knew Doc would fail because he came in making the same mistake Brett Brown made. It's ridiculous to say that a primary Ball handler does not need to be a threat to shoot. That's why they are both gone inside of 2 years.

    • @meech7520
      @meech7520 Před 5 měsíci +4

      It was an attempt to relieve pressure from Ben. It was honorable, but unsuccessful.

  • @jacquesmoran3901
    @jacquesmoran3901 Před 6 měsíci +71

    Doc should be ashamed of himself speaking of these men like this.

    • @kyrieirving2132
      @kyrieirving2132 Před 6 měsíci +10

      I mean it’s nothing we don’t know already about these dudes

    • @Terrell101ify
      @Terrell101ify Před 6 měsíci +12

      No one is above criticism.

    • @AlexDrewsumin
      @AlexDrewsumin Před 6 měsíci +9

      These men need to hear this. Iron sharpens iron.

    • @silewis9396
      @silewis9396 Před 6 měsíci +3

      soft boy take

    • @jacquesmoran3901
      @jacquesmoran3901 Před 6 měsíci +4

      @@AlexDrewsumin then say it to them, not the media. He's always spoken ill of the men he was supposed to be leading.

  • @BLACKMAAT
    @BLACKMAAT Před 6 měsíci +21

    DOC RIVERS WOULD NOT PLAY LANCE STEPHENSON BUT HE PLAYED HIS BUM SON AUSTIN RIVERS WITH THE CLIPPERS

  • @benireland1948
    @benireland1948 Před 6 měsíci +17

    Him and Embiid have so much in common - never miss a microphone

  • @joshuaisaiah4544
    @joshuaisaiah4544 Před 6 měsíci +3

    How mental I'll is frustrating he was young when you coached him you don't know how nobody feelings mentally like that's wild

  • @kamilebrahimoff3589
    @kamilebrahimoff3589 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Players say having Doc Rivers as coach was frustrating.

  • @LastraBrown
    @LastraBrown Před 6 měsíci +10

    Joker was acting like he couldn't wait for the playoffs to be over with

    • @thesportsguy126
      @thesportsguy126 Před 2 měsíci

      Joker has a competitive drive to him. Ben and James dont have that.

  • @guillermomclean8657
    @guillermomclean8657 Před 6 měsíci +21

    What's frustrating it's watching a Coach with one championship from a loaded roster act like he is Phil Jackson or something thru a player under the bus when he needed him most...... I would never ever liked to play for a Guy who doesn't take accountability like doc Rivers

    • @breadbreadman9589
      @breadbreadman9589 Před 6 měsíci +1

      You’re talking like he didn’t beat an other loaded team…

    • @anishsattaram3793
      @anishsattaram3793 Před 5 měsíci

      @@breadbreadman9589 he really hasn't. he's riding the wave of a 15 year old championship that had the best trio at the time, which is why he's currently jobless.

    • @breadbreadman9589
      @breadbreadman9589 Před 5 měsíci

      @@anishsattaram3793 he beat the lakers in the finals…it wasn’t 1 sided

    • @anishsattaram3793
      @anishsattaram3793 Před 5 měsíci

      @@breadbreadman9589again, he had the arguably the most overpowering trio at the time, that's not the coach's greatness it's kg pierce and rondo was a genius playmaker so.

    • @breadbreadman9589
      @breadbreadman9589 Před 5 měsíci

      @@anishsattaram3793the way he coach them was great and rondo was used to his max potential. Look at the clippers now. It aint easy to get a big 3 like that and win on the first year against an other great team

  • @tarunl41291
    @tarunl41291 Před 6 měsíci +31

    Ben was one pf the best players in 76ers, but that playoff loss against hawks and comments afterward embid and rivers did f**k him up mentally and after he did the right thing tp ask for a trade. Criticise privately and appreciate publicly is the motto of any professional coach in the world

    • @roboninja3194
      @roboninja3194 Před 6 měsíci +7

      So what has Simmons done since being traded? Oh right sat out a whole season suing the Sixers for $ that he didn't earn. And then averaged 7 ppg. Yep sounds like a great player to me.

    • @markt6411
      @markt6411 Před 6 měsíci +5

      Ben has no work ethic and he relies on his athletic abilities to get him up to this point in his NBA career. The scouting report already indicated of him having no desire to play the game and the Sixer ignored this warning.

    • @kevinlakeman5043
      @kevinlakeman5043 Před 6 měsíci +1

      He was asked a question and he answered it honestly, like an actual adult, being respectful of the host who invited him onto his show to ask him questions like that. The description of the video is right there at the top, so it's your own lameness for watching it and whining about the content. Simmons is an incompetent player as he can't shoot for crap, is scared to go to the FT line, and yet acts like he's some All-NBA great. He's closer to a bust.

    • @bruceg8612
      @bruceg8612 Před 6 měsíci

      The thing is they tried to trade him 3 months earlier. But when he asked out it was not ok.

    • @tarunl41291
      @tarunl41291 Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@kevinlakeman5043 I am not whining about his response, just putting my opinion out there to what happened. No one is saying ben is faultless but as a coach there is a way to handle things.

  • @miyagimojo
    @miyagimojo Před 6 měsíci +3

    Doc: "...if I could get [Ben] to play this way..." Maaayte, that's Doc's problem right there. A coach's job is to bring out the best from an individual. Maybe why Doc doesn't have a job now???

  • @pennytrue2741
    @pennytrue2741 Před 6 měsíci +7

    I don’t see him coaching ever again not only because of his track record in the playoffs but he is doing himself a huge disservice with all these interviews throwing all his former players under the bus. It’ll be interesting to hear the players truths about him after they retire lol

    • @thepope9648
      @thepope9648 Před 6 měsíci +1

      he doesn't want to coach again.

    • @drewgootz1713
      @drewgootz1713 Před 4 měsíci

      insane.... saying the truth that everyone knows already... is throwing them under the bus... how about players take accountability and be honest

    • @MindfulAttraction2.0
      @MindfulAttraction2.0 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Well I guess you were wrong. This guy just doesn't go away man. I don't get it

  • @Antoine-wb2su
    @Antoine-wb2su Před 6 měsíci +8

    Why is this still a conversation? Lol

  • @rmilldawg
    @rmilldawg Před 6 měsíci +7

    Yes Ben Simmons and Harden were crippling for this team. But you can see by the way Doc talks about his players, the dude is a horrible coach. Just as much of a problem if not more than those 2 players. Alienates players, can’t hold them accountable, and absolutely atrocious at gameplans and making adjustments. So happy that loser is gone.

    • @Salah-fq2wi
      @Salah-fq2wi Před 4 měsíci

      That's your opinion dude, he's a players coach. He seems to have a problem with lazy players as should any coach or fan.

  • @visionevirtuosa
    @visionevirtuosa Před 6 měsíci +16

    Why they don't talk about what they do to him in Sixers mentally.

  • @reedbrown5643
    @reedbrown5643 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I know he is likely speaking some facts but to air this out maybe isnt not a great move. It feels unnecessary

  • @jpy_kicks
    @jpy_kicks Před 6 měsíci +4

    Doc - blames his players. Did it with the clippers

  • @yandrifadli
    @yandrifadli Před 6 měsíci +5

    He himself is a choker. That 2009s Celtics team shouldve won more

    • @silewis9396
      @silewis9396 Před 6 měsíci

      They won in 08. Lost KG in 2009.
      Lost their other key big the next year before the finals. Then Lebron and the Heat got it together. All facts

  • @bruceg8612
    @bruceg8612 Před 6 měsíci +3

    That was a long time ago, you could argue a drovers dog could have coached that team to a championship. He had arguably 4 hall of famers on that team.

    • @meech7520
      @meech7520 Před 5 měsíci

      Same with Popavich, Kerr and Jackson....right.

  • @greentreem74
    @greentreem74 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Wonder why he's unemployed

  • @DeRussellMasina
    @DeRussellMasina Před 6 měsíci +6

    Ben Simmons was blessed to be 6'10.
    People like me dreamed of playing in the NBA but are only 5'10 😅
    He hasn't dreamt of shooting with the pressure on him like us normies.

    • @talldufus5174
      @talldufus5174 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Blessed? Expecation can be a curse. His dad is 6'9" and played pro hoops in Australia. Ben was always gonna play basketball whether he loved it or not.

  • @soloistdeve
    @soloistdeve Před 4 měsíci

    Doc Rivers' coaching is no better than Ben Simmons' game. At this point, Doc should give his ring to Garnett-Pierce-Allen. Those guys won a championship with this coach. That is the impressive part of that ring.

  • @kaydevious
    @kaydevious Před 4 měsíci

    Not a Simmons fan, but maybe we should ask him and the others how frustrating it was playing for a mediocre coach who throws people under the bus constantly and whose entire success, albeit limited, is simply due to being in the right place at the right time with good players but who folds under pressure every time there's an adjustment to be made.

  • @kalebjones8616
    @kalebjones8616 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I think I disagree. Jokic doesn’t seem to love the game and he won a chip 😂 That’s just his day job lol

  • @timhsu8892
    @timhsu8892 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Ya rivers is a joke of coach. Everything is the players part. When we lost being up 3-1 is because the players didn’t step up. I am just the coach not a player.

  • @danielpak7264
    @danielpak7264 Před 2 měsíci

    What a great leader talking sht on ur own players and expecting to win together with them no wonder they lost in the playoffs

  • @Sly-Regicide
    @Sly-Regicide Před 5 měsíci

    That's Cool His eyes straightened out

  • @WessideVibez
    @WessideVibez Před 6 měsíci +4

    Doc doesn’t really say anything, he just likes too hear himself talk, his play style old ast he need to just go away fr relax n enjoy all the money He’s Stolen

    • @silewis9396
      @silewis9396 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Yet here you are clicking on his face...

    • @WessideVibez
      @WessideVibez Před 6 měsíci

      @@silewis9396 u probably doc river salty as Girly Man 🤣

  • @schizophrenic_AI
    @schizophrenic_AI Před 2 měsíci

    I agree with everything he said about Ben, but I would like to apply that same logic to him as a coach. Doc Rivers is a joke of a coach, and his track record is as disappointing or more so than Simmons. I feel terrible for the Milwaukee Bucks, they’re going to have to fight upstream against the current only to get washed away by the Rivers in the playoffs. Good luck Bucks.

  • @user-fq9kr1ld7z
    @user-fq9kr1ld7z Před 3 měsíci

    i respect doc's opinion here

  • @zay222True
    @zay222True Před 6 měsíci +1

    I think doc hit his boiling point n he AIRING IT ALL OUT

  • @njrogas
    @njrogas Před 6 měsíci +1

    Watching Doc coach was frustrating

  • @dannybarcenas9701
    @dannybarcenas9701 Před 6 měsíci

    I wonder what Bret Brownwould say

  • @theweirdingwaypodcast
    @theweirdingwaypodcast Před 6 měsíci +1

    Buses are useful for coaches.

  • @oodlesnnoodles8670
    @oodlesnnoodles8670 Před 6 měsíci +13

    Jokic doesn’t love basketball

    • @KTF0
      @KTF0 Před 6 měsíci +8

      Jokic doesn't like the other perks that comes from being a pro like interviews and notoriety. Even then he's the exception to the rule

    • @beniota1141
      @beniota1141 Před 6 měsíci

      thank you for your input

    • @cbrown940
      @cbrown940 Před 6 měsíci +5

      But his professional dedication to winning supersedes any perceived disenchantment he has to the bs that comes with it.

    • @silewis9396
      @silewis9396 Před 6 měsíci

      No he doesn't like the hype around the superstar circus the NBA media perpetuates. Big difference

    • @renewthymind
      @renewthymind Před 6 měsíci +2

      There is absolutely no way he doesn’t love basketball. You can’t possibly be that great and not love it. Now, is it the thing he enjoys doing the most? Maybe not. Does he prefer basketball over spending time with family and friends? No. But he absolutely does not, not like or love basketball. Other wise he would be a mediocre player who does just enough to be okay and get a decent contract.

  • @danielpak7264
    @danielpak7264 Před 2 měsíci

    You would never see popovich or phil jackson talk sht on his own players what happened to this loser coach

  • @BoBnfishy
    @BoBnfishy Před 6 měsíci +1

    People hate on doc for good reason, dude just doesn't coach. He just realized on the fact that his players are naturally better than the opponents players.
    That being said he did not tell a single lie about Ben. People act like this dude is fantastic, but he doesn't give a shit. Never has never will. He's the most frustrating player in the league because he actually tried he would be one of the best, but he's content to be a middle to average role player on a bad team

  • @AB-uz8sq
    @AB-uz8sq Před 6 měsíci +1

    this is an unacceptable way for a coach to talk about their former players.

  • @danielpak7264
    @danielpak7264 Před 2 měsíci

    I think doc rivers divorce turned him into an idiot

  • @Jawnderlust
    @Jawnderlust Před 6 měsíci

    Mmmmm truth, delicious truth

  • @antoniobenton582
    @antoniobenton582 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Poor Doc Rivers he should have at least 3 🏆 championship as a coach but when you inherit player's like Ben Simmons and James Harden this is the end result

    • @jokerofmorocco
      @jokerofmorocco Před 3 měsíci

      It's also his fault, he's a bad coach who can't make adjustments

  • @oz-zy
    @oz-zy Před 6 měsíci +5

    Ben Simmons is horrible, how is he still in the league? Dude hasn't worked on his game since high school!!!

    • @Rap_dGreat
      @Rap_dGreat Před 6 měsíci

      Clown

    • @MrOctober44
      @MrOctober44 Před 6 měsíci +6

      He's had a total of 20 rebounds and 19 assists in his first two games. Sounds horrible. 👍🙄

    • @oz-zy
      @oz-zy Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@@MrOctober44 0-2 averaging 7 points a game 👍🙄

    • @onlydbrasko
      @onlydbrasko Před 6 měsíci +2

      Luka and Shai Gilgeous Alexander to Ben Simmons is like rocket scientists to people with learning disabilities. Ben's knob jockeys are no different because they wouldn't understand what BBIQ is if it slapped them in the face.

    • @ozgal6929
      @ozgal6929 Před 6 měsíci

      That's a load of codswallop. You don't know much

  • @DNotzz
    @DNotzz Před 5 měsíci

    Sixers immediately got better by subtracting Doc Rivers, Ben Simmons and James Harden.
    Doc is stuck in the past with his slow, stale offense, and not being able to, not willing to, develop young players. Ben is just a crazy athlete who doesn’t care about basketball, just wants to sit at home and play games. And James is a narcissist who will have amazing performances, but will ultimately never help a team win it all because of his “system” play.
    Watching the sixers this year makes me regret all those years we spent with Doc as coach, their offense looks amazing simply because Nurse knows that to win in the NBA today you can’t just play iso-ball 75% of the time like Doc did. He has Embiid looking like the best player to ever lace up. Dudes been on a tear. Racking up 40, 10 and 6 in a nightly basis without even playing the 4th.

  • @mwatts6755
    @mwatts6755 Před 6 měsíci

    Ben Simmons will never be great. I’m not sure why everyone is still waiting.