Derwent Procolour Pencils - Review - Jason Morgan wildlife art
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in this colored pencil review I test the new Derwent Procolour Pencils. There are being released very shortly (video July 2017).
I compare them against - Faber-Castell polychromos, Derwent colour soft and Prismacolor pencils. I also blend them with odourless mineral spirits,
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What I learnt from many reviews,
First three wax based pencils;
Colorsoft - very creamy and soft, handle with care or you will keep breaking the leads
Procolor - medium hardness. Gives creamy texture and can layer but both not as well as colorsoft and artist
Artists - very hard, useful in drawing hard lines and layering.
Studio - same as artist but round pencil and not hexagonal
Now for the only oil based and most expensive pencil of Derwent brand - lightfast.
Faber Castell polychromous - high quality oil based
Kohinoor polycolor - wax based.
Prismacolour - somewhere in between coloursoft and procolor in hardness
Thank you!
A great review. Thank you Jason - just what I was looking for. Love your reviews and comparisons - they are so helpful and save me a lot of time and money x
One of the best reviews I’ve ever seen!
Thank you for this, just what I wanted to know. Everyone else is busy comparing different brands while you do something useful like comparing within a brand. Thirty years ago, I had the full set of Derwent Artists and I’ve one stubby little pencil left. My budget won’t stretch to replacing them, and thanks to you, I now know that I’d probably be happy to settle for the much more affordable Procolour. Namaste
Thanks for doing these comparison videos, so useful and bound to save money
thank you Jason,,very informative
Thank you so much for this brilliant video! ❤
Excelent, excelent review. Just what I was looking for. Ive got prismacolor and fabercastel polychromos,. Im going to try the softcolour!!
Thank you for this review! Could you tell me if the colors / colornumbers correspond with the inktense pencils?
I am new to Derwent, what a well executed review!!!
Great video Jason! 😁 A nice look at the pencils. I hope Derwent took the time to increase their lightfastness on these.
Hi! Nice review! Very informative as always.😉
Thanks for share, one question, what Is the difference between Derwent studio and procolour? Thanks a lot
Thank you for your review. I was wondering if you can compare this new Derwent's product with the Artist line...
Keep on your great videos! ^^
Jason, thanks so so much for the review! Awesome info and we've certainly been looking forward to it. Would you be able to post a thought at FB about their comparison to the Luminance, by any chance?
One question, the pencils of the Derwent are so good? In Brazil it's easy find the pencils of brand, but is very popular the Polychromos and Koh I noor, what are recommend for me? I like soft pencil and quite pigment as coloursoft and prisma.
I have Derwent Artists Pencils and have found the lighter reds such as vermilion and bright red to lack the depth of pigmentation that I would like. Do the Procolour have stronger pigmentation in the reds? Thank you for the video, been looking forward to the review very much
Yes, they do. The bright red and the primary red come to mind, in particular. Lovely deep colors.
You have very nice artist hands :3
Arastede Greensleeves I’ve noticed that too😀
I didn’t think you used colored pencils. Try them on a sanded paper, they’re delightful and much faster.
You should be able to find matching derwent colors, they claim the new pencils match with the other set.
In conclusion derwent soft colors are better! And Prisma colors is the 2nd choice. Jason, I have a Derwent drawing color set of 12, and it's so soft! And the colors are so beautiful! and blend with solvent, tortillions, and a Q-tips too. The range of color is only 24, but you can mix it each other. 🥰🥰🥰 it's great for drawing wild animals, landscape and portrait too.❤🥰
Check Derwent's web site and you'll find the lightfast ratings on there. not good enough for such an expensive product.
They look interesting, but you would have hoped that Derwent would have more information available on them. Are they worth the same sort of price as the Polychromos, as you can get 120 Polychromos from Cass Art for £140 during their sales?
I hoped more data on lightfastness would have come out too.
I'd like to see them compared to Derwent Artist and Polychromos. I wonder if the Artist range will be deleted?
I would love to see that too! In class our teacher suggested to buy polychromos from Faber Castell, but in my country they are WAYYY too expensive... so I bought these, and for the moment they have worked very well... but Idk if in a future would not xddd (sorry if you don't understand my english, i'm not a native)
Is there any mention of the lightfastness ratings? I know lightfast pinks and purples are in high demand and many hoped this line would fill the gap. Thanks.
hi as mentioned on the video - not yet unfortunately,
Can't say for Procolor, but the lightfastness for some colors in coloursoft are not good. accoblobstorageus.blob.core.windows.net/literature/ef80d8ea-aed3-46fd-86c2-82570c7eacbe.pdf Here's the chart. I've yet to see the procolor though.
Derwent new Lightfast line has some amazing deep purples.
The paper you used annoys me a little. Maybe if you used a rougher surface, the mineral spirit would spread the color more accurately. Personally, I'm not into m. spirit very much, but I hate those satin papers to work on or to test anything well.
I would like to see this done using sanded paper 400 or 600.
Jason did you try Multi-point Professional Deluxe Artist's Pencil Sharpener by Creative Mark? I just bought it but not tried it yet.Love your tutorials, as soon as I will have more time I will sing in to your site. Thank you for sharing all this awesome tutorials.
Asia Zawadzka-Lazuchiewicz no not heard of that. 😉
I own you explanation sorry about it.I bought this pencil sharpener online from Jerryartarama.com in US.As soon I try it I will tell you if I like it.It takes pencil diameters 8mm-12mm in most shapes including Triangular.Hexagon and Round. Sharpens in your choice of 5 custom pencil point shapes. This is written on the box .I do not remember price but if you are interested I will get it for you too.
Great review! I would love to know how they work on pastel mat? I have seen many colored pencil artists trying out that paper, and they can layer light over darks, like pastel or oil. I would love to know if this is true. Thank you!
on pastelmat paper you can overlay light over dark to some extent with coloured pencils. much more than you can with standard paper, but nowhere near as much as you can with pastels. Using pastelmat with coloured pencil is like midway between normal pencil on paper and pastels.
Jason Morgan - Wildlife Art Okay, thank you so much!
Thanks for this video!
I've had the wooden box of 72 Coloursoft for several years now. And although I like the colors and the pencils feel nice in the hand, I do get annoyed by the 'crumbs' of the pencil (I keep blowing them away) and the breaking of the sharp point when you want to color in small things.
So I was looking for a harder pencil, which doesn't crumble so much and can take some pressure without breaking. And above all: from which I will not go bankrupt 😂
At first I wanted the 120 Polychromos (we have the set of 12, we have the set of 12, but that's not enough 😉), but they are actually a bit over my budget, then a friend (who has Coloursoft, Procolour, Chromaflow, Polychromos, Prismacolor and Luminance on its way for her birthday) recommended the Procolour to me, so I went looking for videos comparing the Coloursoft and Procolour. So glad I came across this.
Unfortunately, there is no shop in the area where I can buy a number of them, so I have to spend at least 45 minutes in the car, but it's almost summervacation, so I'm planning a 'buy some pencils trip' 😎
Oh, I also find the 'waxbloom' very annoying with the Coloursoft, so maybe Polychromos is better for me after all.
So for now I'm still not sure haha!
Thank you for the wonderful review- I just got a set of Coloursoft and would like a set of harder/firmer pencils for more detailed work but am looking for a set that has a slightly different color range than the Coloursoft to maximize my palette. Do you think the ProColour and the Coloursoft have different enough color selections to warrant the investment? Thank you so much!
I don´t know if the bristol board was a good choice for testing coloured pencils. Maybe a paper with a bit tooth would have been a better choice. For that what I saw I wouldn´t buy the Procolour. I wouldn´t buy none of these pencils... I am not sure if I understand this correct... the Procolour are wax-based pencils? They look as poor as the Spectrum Noir pencils...very hard and without much pigment in them. Do you know if there will be an open stock? Maybe I will purchase one or two pencils for a comparision with my Polychromos and Luminance. But to be honest I am not convinced.
Hi thats why I also used a paper with some tooth as well in the review. Sorry no idea if they will be open stock too.
can you buy replacement pencils
yes from Derwent website from £2.04 each
Good review! Derwent is confusing me on this one, though, Something called Procolour should be a professional grade product, right? But I would expect a pro product to be oil based and very lightfast. I might pick up a few of these in my favorite colors to try out, but can't see how they would figure in when doing commissioned work. Kind of a bummer if you ask me. Still, good job on this review. I always learn something from your videos!
Lily, why would you expect a pro product to be oil-based? Caran d'Ache Luminance and Pablo are both professional quality and they are both wax-based.
Actually the Pablo's are their oil-based line and the Luminance are their wax-based line. Perhaps you meant the Faber-Castell Polychromos being oil-based, though Prismacolours are also wax-based.
I could have worded that better. I meant that since they already had Coloursoft and Derwent Artists', both waxed based, I expected them to add an oil-based colored pencil range with the Procolour.
Actually the Pablos are *not* oil-based. For a long time I thought they were, too. But a few weeks ago I directly asked Stefan Lohrer of Creative Art Materials, the North American importer/distributor for Caran d'Ache. He's a walking encyclopedia of all Caran d'Ache products. He said they are wax-based.
Denise Thanks interesting to know since the Caran D Ache website lists them as oil-based.
I think the paper is not conducive to thease pencils but that's just me.
first comment. yehey! so what makes it different from the derwent artist pencils?
I believe the artists pencils are VERY hard and liable to break :)
Jason Morgan - Wildlife Art i like both artist and coloursoft from derwent and i don't want to offend the effort of this company in creating new product line but I was expecting that the procolour gonna be an oil based pencil rather than another wax based as the rest of their coloured pencils.
yes good point.
The official Derwent Colour chart indicates about half of the colours in the Procolour range fall below the acceptable lightfastness grades (i.e. 1-3). A 'proper' professional range would be lightfast across the entire range - which can be achieved (and has been in the past by Derwent!). This range actually appear to be worse than Coloursoft! I don't think I'd comment on lightfastness in a video without knowing what is first - although Jason's expectations appear to be the same as everybody else's - which I assume means he is now as disappointed as the rest of us! I have to say that the name seems to be a complete misnomer!
That's what the lightfast is for, but I do think they are overpriced throughout the ranges.
Only about half to 2/3s are lightfast so for a set of high quality professional artist pencil they're not as good as one would expect especially for the price I paid almost $200AU. Nevertheless the set could be used along with another brand that is lightfast. For commission work a combined selection of pencils would create an archival piece if work other than that as a set on their own art could be sold as prints. I am looking forward to trying mine out I hear the procolour performance is high standard so at least that's something
Thanks for the video! Could you play around with them more and give us an idea of what completing an actual drawing with them is like?
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I only found 36 light-fast pencils from the whole set! why would any one buy I have no idea. The colors are dull and can not be classed as PRO PENCIL when they will not last the length of time. Over priced for 36 pencils.....
Hepside var zengin
I have never experienced more extreme hand fatigue from a pencil than from the Derwent Procolour. I have used a huge variety of pencils thru the years and was so disappointed in how they applied pigment. I would never buy a set of them.
wish he woulda done a real pic to better see the results
Another artist on youtube, Lachri fine art, found that half of these pencils of the full set is NOT lightfast.
Can't say I agree at all with your inclination that the lightfastness ratings of Coloursoft are "good" - 13 colours of the set are not lightfast, making up over a fifth of the set! Compare that to brands like Faber Castell Polychromos (only 2 non-lightfast colours) and Caran D'ache Luminance (all fully lightfast) and it's very clear which brands are superior.
In all honesty, the fact that Derwent are being so tight-mouthed about the lightfastness of the Procolours does not bode well in my opinion and it's unlikely the set is going to have good lightfastness overall. As someone who is primarily a coloured pencil artist I expect a brand that is marketed as "professional artist quality" to be just that - and good lightfastness is an absolute must for this definition. I'm a little concerned about the quality of these but I want so badly for them to be good. I guess only time will tell and I won't know until I actually get my hands on them when they're released. Fingers crossed.
Totally agree with you. As they are "artist grade pencils" they should be lightfast. They must be aware that us professional artists sell our work and therefore need it to stand the test of time. I'm really disappointed in this set. The colours look really dull to me. I won't be buying.
True. I feel that Derwent is quite shady when it comes to lightfast rating of their pencils. Like Inktense, they are lightfast when used dry, but when they are wet, they are not lightfast.
I agree. I wouldn't direct/advertise any non-lightfast coloured pencils towards professional artists. I've just purchased some inktense (12 set) and am having loads of fun with them but I wouldn't use them on any commissions or any artwork intended for sale because of them being non-lightfast once wet, which I think is the fun in inktense. The price Jason quoted (I know it's subject to change) just doesn't reflect the quality of the pencils. When you think you can buy 120 Polychromos for a comparable price it makes more sense to go for those that have a better lightfast rating. I'd expect more from a "professional" grade coloured pencil.
Wild Portrait Artist According to Lisa from Lachri Fineart, only 40 out of the 72 colours are lightfast
These pencils are outrageously expensive here in Canada. For the price these are selling for, ALL pencils should be light-fast. Since they are not- these pencils are over-priced. For that amount of money, why not just invest on the Polychromos? Not impressed with Derwent so far.
The Procolour don't look any better than Crayola coloured pencils.
Great review on Derwent Procolour Pencils product! I am new to colored pencil, but what is the difference between this product and the Prisma Premium Colored Pencil, US CZcamsrs tend to rant and rave about?? Please add me into your DPP giveaway, and "Thank you, Jason!"
Dayum these are really pricy in india....we students can barely afford that 72 set
Literally half the pencils in the Proolour set are NOT lightfast
There is no way you can figure out the lightfastness of the Derwent Colorsoft I looked everywhere for it and several say the same no information is on derwents website and nothing I can see on the tin so I don’t know where you came up with the lightfast of the Colorsoft but I’m sure it’s not what you think it is if you feel like replying to me please give me a link where you found this information btw Colorsoft sucks