Good video Jordan it’s nice to have a video detailing what actually happens and all that’s required! The assessment is one thing that holds me back from starting up on my own.
Had my first Assessment and failed. I had a bad day and just froze when asked to carry out some testing, my mind went blank and just felt stupid. Got to pay another huge amount of cash to get a revisit. Gutted, the questions were stuff I know but couldn't spit out. Im going to re book but get plenty of prep done for the next time.
I'm a new starter and completed the Combined Inspection & Testing qualification last summer, when he asked me about expected R2 end to end I forgot the x 1.67 stuff. From that point it went down hill very quickly. Felt awful an inadequate. I couldn't sleep the night before and was knackered lol, so I know where you come from about anxiety. Trouble is, now I have failed this time I'm gonna be more nervous next time, catch 22. All my office was fine along with paperwork so no worries there. I got a Ze reading of 0.12 on my results for a TNC-S, but I did point out that the Sub-Station is less than 100m away, was that a good answer? Love the posts and will carry on trying.
@@johnstevenson707 hi mate i have my big day in a couple of weeks. could you please tell me what kind of technical question I should be expecting. I read your comment and was wondering what else I should prepare myself for.
You’re just like me… clean my van, get the paperwork in order it’s a bloody nightmare. Sleepless night or 2. I’m on the brink of retirement and cut down so much on my work … I’m having trouble doing the amount of work they require…..
Very useful video Jordan. I'm planning to start my own business next year so this is very helpful. A quick little story I thought you might like. Back in 2017, I did an installation for an extension for a builder I often work for and as I'm not registered or at the moment I don't have my 2391 so a NIC approved company, which shall remain unnamed, came in to test and certify my work which obviously I was present for. The guy actually said to me after the tests "Would you mind if I use this installation for my NIC/EIC inspection" A bit cheeky I thought but I didn't mind too much as I've seen his work before and it's a bit rough! I like you take pride in my work and ensure it's done to the highest standard!
Seems like everyone else has closed down since christmas, and done no videos, except you Jordan! And the Festive Oven Element Repair Attempt by Mr Savery!
Cheers for sharing. Got my first ever assesment tomorrow 7th January with Napit I'm sure alot of this is transferable. Done a lot of this prep but missed one or two things that I wasn't aware of. Hopefully the assessor will be kind and direct me accordingly. I'm new to working for my self and being assessed so some of the documentation h and s stuff I wasn't aware of.
All done he was very happy comments of high level of workmanship and obvious passion for the job. Can't complain on wards and up wards Maybe a CZcams channel ha ha 🤣🤣
@@BobBobOnCZcams my dad was a high voltage test engineer so been around electrical thereoy for the last 30 years We have renovated a few houses to sell on and I've worked with a few sparks on occasions. This gave be a good grounding. Then did a domestic installers course to give me the qualifications I needed to cement and fine tune my knowledge. I still have alot to learn and readding lots and you tube channel like this one and many others help to give me tip/tricks. If you have no previous experience in electrical work but you are practice offer your self out at weekends to a local spark.
Interesting to know what you guys have to go through. As an electric and gas meter installer, we have days of being watched like a hawk doing installations at a depot every year, plus on location audits where again we are closely observed from start to finish. On the gas side we also have assessments every three years or so which involve a few days of practical and written assessments in a testing centre. It's certainly a downside to working in the industry, because the pressure can be intense. Anyway, I enjoyed the video.
Good video Jordan Very Informative and shows a detailed knowledge of your chosen profession. For those of us living outside the U.K. could you elaborate on the abbreviations you us (e.g . the Bodies having Juristiction etc. ) The Inspection side of things seems quite thorough. Yet I don't know if your Apprenticeship program is a common curriculum throughout the country with a certain standard of knowledge gained and on the job experience aquired over a 4 or 5 years period in all aspects of the trade. Good luck with your inspection. I know you will ace it. your online series are a testiment to what compitent work looks like and as such the value of what the customer is paying for.
If you’re providing or giving advice as part of a business, indemnity insurance is always wise to have. The policy we have also covers us with regards to design of circuits
Hello Jordan. I am looking at starting up as a domestic installer and I will need to go through the building control route until I can get NECIEC approved status. The building control for one area have said they will not accept testing from someone who is not already registered with a CPS accreditation scheme. Is this normal or have I missed some legislation somewhere making new builds different?
You must remember that it's not in their interest to fail anyone after all your paying for it but they can give advice. Obviously, if you are a complete cowboy they may fail you but I would imagine it's rare. I used to freak out before my BSI assessments which were three days twice a year but then I figured out we were paying them about 2 grand for each assessment and so they were really there to help you not fail you.
Hi mate, this video was a great insight. Can I just mention a couple of things that irked (not against you, but the system) 1) The need for copies of documents. Keeping a local copy of a document means it could be obsolete and you would be unaware. By using documents direct from a controlled website would ensure you have the most current version. 2) Risk assessments- You mention that you can download these from the web, so they are generic (common sense back in the day) 3) Assessments- You can cherry pick your own jobs for assessment? Wow. Seeing as all jobs are recorded, the assessor should be able to pick any job at random, increasing the chance of discovering shoddy workmanship (not aimed at you) I could go on, but I won’t bore you 😁
Meter calibration is a big con really. When I worked for a contractor they sent a MFT in for calibration with one function not working. It came back and yes you can guess they’d failed to pick it up. Can’t remember which range it was but it wasn’t intermittent just completely dead. Is a phase rotation test needed at every 3 phase point now? I only do distribution boards and socket outlets. An oven seems a bit pointless? Excellent videos thanks.
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Thank you for this video. I'm going to join NIC , I use different address for my business than my home ,same you. And I do my office work from home But I'm not sure for public liability insurance , Will NIC accept if I put my business address other than my home for insurance and in assesment day I use my home as office to NIC inspector.?? And for first year to join NIC , do I need to notify council for adding new circuit or because it's first job NIC inspector accept my job certificate without notifying council Thanks in advance🙏🙏🙏🙏
Hi mate, You mention the KT63 is rubbish and you hardly use it; what specifically don't you like about it? I have one and haven't had any problems, but I am wondering whether I am missing out on some functionality etc.
Am interested to know how you do an RCD test on the 3PH socket in the bakery - not had to do one myself (yet) but would be useful to know how they can be tested.
In south africa was taught to couple a cam switch to a plug and switch between phases then record worst reading. That's 3phase plug>>>>>>cam switch>>>>>>single phase plug>>>>tester. Works for plug in loop tester and ins res tests aswell
Interesting, actually he didn’t ask me for it this time but he used to always do so that’s why I had some ready just in case, I think now with GDPR they can’t take any documents with them
While I appreciate that he's probably right that professional indemnity insurance is a good idea, it's somewhat depressing that's the case. Decent professionals such as yourself really shouldn't have to pay for that sort of thing :(
@@artisanelectrics I thought it was mandatory really for carrying out consultancy and professional advice services, eg EICR. Someone advised me to have it from the get go.
Is it an NICEIC requirement to compete monthly checks of our multifunction testers? Or as I understand, the yearly calibration and certificate are the standard? TIA
Good video Jordan it’s nice to have a video detailing what actually happens and all that’s required! The assessment is one thing that holds me back from starting up on my own.
Reece Crook thanks glad you enjoyed the video!
Me too! Makes me very anxious.
Had my first Assessment and failed. I had a bad day and just froze when asked to carry out some testing, my mind went blank and just felt stupid. Got to pay another huge amount of cash to get a revisit. Gutted, the questions were stuff I know but couldn't spit out. Im going to re book but get plenty of prep done for the next time.
John Stevenson ah mate sorry to hear that, nerves can be a tough thing. You will get there, don’t give up.
I'm a new starter and completed the Combined Inspection & Testing qualification last summer, when he asked me about expected R2 end to end I forgot the x 1.67 stuff. From that point it went down hill very quickly. Felt awful an inadequate. I couldn't sleep the night before and was knackered lol, so I know where you come from about anxiety. Trouble is, now I have failed this time I'm gonna be more nervous next time, catch 22. All my office was fine along with paperwork so no worries there. I got a Ze reading of 0.12 on my results for a TNC-S, but I did point out that the Sub-Station is less than 100m away, was that a good answer? Love the posts and will carry on trying.
@@johnstevenson707 hi mate i have my big day in a couple of weeks. could you please tell me what kind of technical question I should be expecting. I read your comment and was wondering what else I should prepare myself for.
You’re just like me… clean my van, get the paperwork in order it’s a bloody nightmare. Sleepless night or 2.
I’m on the brink of retirement and cut down so much on my work … I’m having trouble doing the amount of work they require…..
Very useful video Jordan.
I'm planning to start my own business next year so this is very helpful. A quick little story I thought you might like. Back in 2017, I did an installation for an extension for a builder I often work for and as I'm not registered or at the moment I don't have my 2391 so a NIC approved company, which shall remain unnamed, came in to test and certify my work which obviously I was present for.
The guy actually said to me after the tests "Would you mind if I use this installation for my NIC/EIC inspection"
A bit cheeky I thought but I didn't mind too much as I've seen his work before and it's a bit rough!
I like you take pride in my work and ensure it's done to the highest standard!
Oh yup… professional indemnity I had that one!.. I just go through the NICEIC insurance.
Seems like everyone else has closed down since christmas, and done no videos, except you Jordan! And the Festive Oven Element Repair Attempt by Mr Savery!
Yeah! I’ve got another one coming tonight as well!
Good insight Jordan. As if there was any doubt it would go swimmingly!
Thanks!
Cheers for sharing.
Got my first ever assesment tomorrow 7th January with Napit
I'm sure alot of this is transferable. Done a lot of this prep but missed one or two things that I wasn't aware of.
Hopefully the assessor will be kind and direct me accordingly.
I'm new to working for my self and being assessed so some of the documentation h and s stuff I wasn't aware of.
Glad the video helped! All the best today!
@@artisanelectrics I'll let you know
All done he was very happy comments of high level of workmanship and obvious passion for the job.
Can't complain on wards and up wards
Maybe a CZcams channel ha ha 🤣🤣
@@thomasanstiss469 How did you get your start in the industry?
@@BobBobOnCZcams my dad was a high voltage test engineer so been around electrical thereoy for the last 30 years
We have renovated a few houses to sell on and I've worked with a few sparks on occasions.
This gave be a good grounding.
Then did a domestic installers course to give me the qualifications I needed to cement and fine tune my knowledge.
I still have alot to learn and readding lots and you tube channel like this one and many others help to give me tip/tricks.
If you have no previous experience in electrical work but you are practice offer your self out at weekends to a local spark.
Interesting to know what you guys have to go through. As an electric and gas meter installer, we have days of being watched like a hawk doing installations at a depot every year, plus on location audits where again we are closely observed from start to finish. On the gas side we also have assessments every three years or so which involve a few days of practical and written assessments in a testing centre. It's certainly a downside to working in the industry, because the pressure can be intense. Anyway, I enjoyed the video.
Thanks for sharing! Good to know!
Good video Jordan
Very Informative and shows a detailed knowledge of your chosen profession.
For those of us living outside the U.K. could you elaborate on the abbreviations you us (e.g . the Bodies having Juristiction etc. ) The Inspection side of things seems quite thorough. Yet I don't know if your Apprenticeship program is a common curriculum throughout the country with a certain standard of knowledge gained and on the job experience aquired over a 4 or 5 years period in all aspects of the trade.
Good luck with your inspection. I know you will ace it.
your online series are a testiment to what compitent work looks like and as such the value of what the customer is paying for.
Thanks Jordan a very helpful insight into what happens when inspected 👌
You’re welcome!
Just had mine and pass with no action required 👍🏻👌🏻 hope yours goes well my friend 👍🏻👍🏻
Excellent!
If you’re providing or giving advice as part of a business, indemnity insurance is always wise to have. The policy we have also covers us with regards to design of circuits
Excellent
Hello Jordan. I am looking at starting up as a domestic installer and I will need to go through the building control route until I can get NECIEC approved status.
The building control for one area have said they will not accept testing from someone who is not already registered with a CPS accreditation scheme.
Is this normal or have I missed some legislation somewhere making new builds different?
You must remember that it's not in their interest to fail anyone after all your paying for it but they can give advice. Obviously, if you are a complete cowboy they may fail you but I would imagine it's rare. I used to freak out before my BSI assessments which were three days twice a year but then I figured out we were paying them about 2 grand for each assessment and so they were really there to help you not fail you.
Great video. Could you also tell us if it would be any different if it was the first assessment for someone who was joining them.
thank you for this video jordan, very useful for the inexperienced like myself
Glad it was helpful!
U do a really good job on here mate keep up the good work on here mate form Greg Bouchard
Great video Jordan, very helpful.
Great video Jordan, really informative and helpful and honest. 👍
Thanks!
You’ve got your big blue bible tabulated like mine, makes it so much easer
Yeah it’s great!
U do a really good job on here mate
Hi mate, this video was a great insight. Can I just mention a couple of things that irked (not against you, but the system)
1) The need for copies of documents. Keeping a local copy of a document means it could be obsolete and you would be unaware. By using documents direct from a controlled website would ensure you have the most current version.
2) Risk assessments- You mention that you can download these from the web, so they are generic (common sense back in the day)
3) Assessments- You can cherry pick your own jobs for assessment? Wow. Seeing as all jobs are recorded, the assessor should be able to pick any job at random, increasing the chance of discovering shoddy workmanship (not aimed at you)
I could go on, but I won’t bore you 😁
Yes I agree the system is very flawed
Excellent video, very informative.
Have biscuits and tea/ready and buy them a full English and all will go without any problems
😂
Totally fantastic video - thank you so much
You’re welcome!
Check spelling on Best practice guides, please
GOOD EVENING
Thank you arti,
Meter calibration is a big con really. When I worked for a contractor they sent a MFT in for calibration with one function not working. It came back and yes you can guess they’d failed to pick it up. Can’t remember which range it was but it wasn’t intermittent just completely dead. Is a phase rotation test needed at every 3 phase point now? I only do distribution boards and socket outlets. An oven seems a bit pointless? Excellent videos thanks.
Thanks!
You don't want the clock going backwards or your dinner will be ready before you've even put it in.
Great video as always.
What insurance company do you use for you public liability and professional indemnity?
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Brilliant Vid again Jordan!
Thanks!
Nice one Jordon got mine this month too, hate it lol
Thanks yeah it’s a bit stressful! You will be fine tho!
Cheers
Thank you for this video. I'm going to join NIC , I use different address for my business than my home ,same you. And I do my office work from home But I'm not sure for public liability insurance , Will NIC accept if I put my business address other than my home for insurance and in assesment day I use my home as office to NIC inspector.??
And for first year to join NIC , do I need to notify council for adding new circuit or because it's first job NIC inspector accept my job certificate without notifying council
Thanks in advance🙏🙏🙏🙏
Hi, im looking to start up on my own as a domestic installer, how can I get niceic registered with just a couple of small jobs under my belt?
Hello, perhaps a bit sad I'm doing this on Xmas eve. How do you gain the job portfolio to appease the NICEIC inspector.
Good content. Very helpful. Thanks 😀
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for the video information
You’re welcome
Hi mate, You mention the KT63 is rubbish and you hardly use it; what specifically don't you like about it? I have one and haven't had any problems, but I am wondering whether I am missing out on some functionality etc.
It’s very slow and klunky to use
great video
Glad you enjoyed it
Am interested to know how you do an RCD test on the 3PH socket in the bakery - not had to do one myself (yet) but would be useful to know how they can be tested.
Just like a normal RCD you just pick one phase
In south africa was taught to couple a cam switch to a plug and switch between phases then record worst reading. That's 3phase plug>>>>>>cam switch>>>>>>single phase plug>>>>tester. Works for plug in loop tester and ins res tests aswell
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Working at uae uae university
You don't like the kewtech kt63? Why is that? I find it quite simple and straightforward to use. Small and compact too
It’s super slow and lacks a lot of functions
I love my kt64dl does all I need
Hope they're not TOO bothered about the van, mine's battered and it's a right shit tip inside lol
Never had to show company headed paper, pretty sure it’s not a requirement for compliance
Interesting, actually he didn’t ask me for it this time but he used to always do so that’s why I had some ready just in case, I think now with GDPR they can’t take any documents with them
I think niceic tested compalsary
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⚠️ smooth volume levels 🤓😂🙈
Thanks!
I'm with Napit, never again absolute jokers
While I appreciate that he's probably right that professional indemnity insurance is a good idea, it's somewhat depressing that's the case. Decent professionals such as yourself really shouldn't have to pay for that sort of thing :(
I know! 😩
@@artisanelectrics I thought it was mandatory really for carrying out consultancy and professional advice services, eg EICR. Someone advised me to have it from the get go.
Is it an NICEIC requirement to compete monthly checks of our multifunction testers? Or as I understand, the yearly calibration and certificate are the standard? TIA
Afaia no need for monthly checks if you calibrate annually, if you don’t calibrate annually then monthly recorded checks are required.
I was told to monthly test with a cal box if ok just calibrate 2 years
Thanks great video very helpful
Glad it helped
Oscar Have aye tested certifecate WED alain ADH uae
Its 1979 year
Got mine next week be my 3rd and still shit myself
Certifecate at uae
It’s a fluke ......if you get the same reading twice !!!
Oh for one minute I thought you was going to end it in gaz signature way you know.... I hope this video has been some help
Haha!
My file id565
Sounds a bit off and on -
I sagested eicr tested for uae dewa 100$ aye Hours