China Tools Ep. 46 Most exciting diode laser!
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- čas přidán 3. 10. 2023
- In-Depth reviews of woodworking products from China. In this episode: The NEJE Max 4 Diode Laser!, Is this the most exciting diode laser at this moment.
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8. Miter square
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9. Height gauge
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10. Hongdui Miter Gauge
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Products I use in my workshop.
Table saw with dust system:
Felder 740S Slider
Felder 140
Workbench:
Incra master-R-router lift
AEG 1400w router
Incra 25" SL positioner with Wonder Fence
Drill press: Jet JDP 15B
Miter saw: Festool Kapex 60
Different links to products I use
Clamps:
Axminster trade hold down clamps
Piher Rail guide clamps
Micro Jig dovetail clamps
Bessey parallel clamps
Axminster trade parallel clamps
Push blocks
Micro Jig Gripper
Incra Push block
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Best regards,
Dennis - Zábava
Oh, no - please, PLEASE protect your eyes - I BEG you! All of these systems need to come with proper enclosures - the glasses aren't enough. It takes less than a second to permanently damage your retina, the most delicate of tissue. As someone who has worked in an optics lab, these laser cutters horrify me.
I've been considering it for a long time, but after watching the video there was no hesitation. It has to be the Max 4! Great job !
Crazy machine indeed, Dennis! Fantastic review! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Thank you for sharing this Laser with us. Definately very useful, I can see so many uses for this machine. The ability to enlarge the work area is a very big plus. Everyone stay safe, happy and healthy. From Henrico County
hi dennis i value your channel and have as a result of your recommendation just purchased the neje max 4 my first laser. i have been looking forward to more context on your new laser channel but it seems there are some delays(?) i would value a more comprehensive posts on enclosures, air assist and purifiers. your advice is always appreciated
I’m not quite ready yet to add a laser to my shop since it’s still early stages for me, but when I look at the acrylic cutting and how you can use this for templating, I can see the value. Looking forward to seeing what comes up on the other channel. Great job as always Dennis.
Thanks great to see you on my other channel as well🙏🏻
So good ❤
I was pleased that my NEJE Max 4 arrived 2 weeks ago and came with dragchains i.s.o. the stupid flex plastic solution as cable management.
For a 91 yr old; is too hard to learn; with these electronic machines! Sad, but OH so true. But I still thanks. For we ❤you, kind Sir, always.
I've been using the NEJE machines for nearly five months now, beginning with the 3 Max & E40 and now I'm using the NEJE Max 4 & E80. For me, it's easy to work with the E80 and E40 lasers and lightburn. I haven't encountered any problems with those NEJE machines so far. Lately, I've had this urge to use them for crafting some Halloween goodies, making gifts for the family, and even selling some of the stuff I create with 'em.
Thanks Dennis
Weer bedankt Dennis, ik ga alvast op je andere kanaal abonneren! Ik heb een zelfbouw CO2 laser en altijd benieuwd wat andere er allemaal mee doen.
I have just binged a LOT of your videos. Ive recently got a work space and im planning some projects among them building a dobsonian mount for my telescope.
I like your impartial reviews of the chinese tools. I buy a lot of chinese astronomy equipment and there are some very good finds out there for the price, so it is nice to see you doing the hard work with woodworking equipment!
There will be some precise measurements and i think a laser like this will be very useful. I can plot it out and cut from cardboard to make sure everything is perfect.
Whilst it wont cut 18mm plywood i think it will be invaluable for marking the cut lines on the project so everything is as precise as possible. Should also be good to cut multiple thin sheets of wood together to make twmplates for the router maybe?
I am waiting for my Ikier 24W unit, had the same logical path with the spot size, and took the "weaker" unit, also because the price was half of the 48W one. I plan to use it for templating/jig making, thus ditching the idea of a cnc, as I just work with wood. Great video!
Weer een top review Dennis, zeker ook even geabonneerd op je nieuwe kanaal!
Fijn dank je!
Good to see more companies add powered z axis. I have an Ikier that has the powered z axis. Ikier might have been the first for basic diode laser kits earlier this year. More will join.
A couple of years ago many of the dirt cheap lasers had z-axis and doubled as cnc engraver (pure crap). Now it seems to be back but as a laser utility.
Great product Dennis. I would love to add an engraver to my workshop(unfortunately I can't afford one). What are you going to do with this laser when you put in the new one. Is there a way I can take it of your hands.😁😁
Arghh! I missed the part of the Neje Max 4 not being able to cut clear acrylic. I purchased this laser, and the dust extraction silent box plans, and have reached the stage of cutting the acrylic parts. Was left perplexed why the clear was not cutting.
Thanks for all your wonderful content Dennis.
Why will it not cut clear, due to the transparency? Could a layer of protective tape be added to the surface of the clear. Would that work?
Seeing this makes me conflicted on getting a laser. I was about to get a refurb 20w Atomstack for under $400, but even though this is a lot more I feel like I would be much happier with it.
I'm in the market for a laser engraver. thanks!
Dennis, I so much wanted to like this laser engraver. But I can’t. I bought mine a few months ago. I got everything. It arrived damaged. No fault of NEJE. The package looked like it was very roughly handled. Ok, I was let down because I really wanted to use it for a project. I then went looking for customer support. I have to say I don’t like it. The customer support is only available as a forum. You have to create an account and then create a forum entry. There is no mechanism to talk to a live person. So I sent in the pictures of the damage. The “gimble” or x-axis, z-axis assembly was severely bent when the package was dropped or hit on the end longitudinally. The wheels used to keep track on the y-axis were severely damaged and bent the assembly used to tension the X-axis drive belt. I asked NEJE to send me the entire assembly and I would return the damaged parts. NEJE would not do this. Instead they sent one end of the assembly and told me to replace it. First of all I couldn’t remove the part they wanted me to replace because it was too severely damaged. Then they wanted my to reuse a damaged part by drilling some new holes in it. It goes on and on. I still do not have a working machine and I’m still trying to get NEJE to help. They do respond to the forum with only a day or two delay, but they aren’t really helping me. They should have just replaced the entire damaged assembly. But for reasons unknown to me they won’t. So I have a two year warranty for a damaged machine for which they expect me to be the repair technician but they aren’t providing me the parts I need to fix it. I think I’ve lost $1000+ dollars on this venture. So, to all of your viewers, the product looks good to me, the design seems to be outstanding, but do not expect great customer support or warranty service. You are rolling the dice in this purchase as it ships from China in a card board box that cannot hold up to rough handling. That’s a long journey to the US with a lot of transfers. You could get unlucky like me and have a delivery person who roughly handles packages.
I am so sorry to read this. I will give it attention to my contact person. Perhaps this give some other lights on this matter. Can not promise you anything, but I can try. Can you send me a mail with order nr? To hookedonwood@hotmail.com
Hoi Dennis, ten eerste wat een geweldige video's maak je, en hebt een hele mooie werkplaats.
ik heb interesse in en de Neje laser , dit lijkt mij een goede koop.
Ik denk dat als er een nieuwere en zwaardere laser uitkomt deze compettable zal zijn met de Neje 4 om te kunnen uitwisselen
ik heb nog een vraag hoe heb je de clear acrillic voor je dust collection uitgesneden? met een Frees of met de laser en de acrillic zwart gespoten?
zou je op de neje 4 ook een frees kunnen plaatsen en die uitwisselen of is dat te onstabiel?
ik vraag dit uiteraard om plaats te besparen in mijn werkplaats.
trouwens, ik heb jou zero clearens fance voor mijn Festool Kapex 60 nagemaakt , werkt fantastisch.
ik hoor Graag van je.
Gr Frank Hendrikx.
Without a way to adequately remove the gasses created by cutting acrylic, it's not a case of if you'll have a fire but when. The gasses get trapped in the honeycomb cells and can then easily ignite. I would never advise people to run a laser with the honeycomb flat against the work surface. Even those strips that Dennis added to raise it up a little are not sufficient to create enough airflow.
Finally, no mention whatsoever of an enclosure to protect you from all that particulate matter. If you've never heard of P2.5 particles I suggest you look them up... The dangers of exposure to them are very real and can also end up being deadly. Never, ever run any kind of laser, diode, CO2 or fiber without adequately enclosing it and having suitable ventilation. Lecture over for the day ;-)
Thanks for your comment, fully agree
I guess I'm closer to a HookedOn3DPrinting so........ hint hint.... :^). I suspect these things will be killer by the time I decide I need/want one.
😂😂😂
Thank you I was under the impression the -Z- axis was just another gimmick but I see it does have a use😁
will these lasers cut laminated paper resin panels / phenolic resin /
I bought a small Neje laser printer perhaps 5 years ago. It has a limited travel (150 x 150) but, with effort, I can move the laser or workpiece and make much larger etchings. I have used it for engraving on wood, leather and plastic. It’s great but I don’t find it accurate enough for templates. The width of the cut/burn is quite wide. I’ve been thinking about a much larger machine to cut very accurate templates and/or multiple items (20 of this or 30 of that). Rightly or wrongly (please comment) I am looking at a desk top CNC router set up. It will probably be only 1200 x 1200 as that’s enough for almost everything I do and, like most shops, space is not infinite.
I think they are more accurate now. The base is sturdy enough to be straight on itself. With my former Neje, the max 2, this was a proces that took some time to get it square. But after that, it was very accurate. This one should be even more accurate. And the spot is 0.06x0.06. You will not get this size with other Diode or Co2 lasers. If I did not have the opportunity for a professional Co2 laser, this would be my laser for my shop.
Please send me a link to the silent hepa box.
Thanks for interesting video! Please in your laser videos add some overlay text how much the cutting video is speedup and when is in real-time speed.
Great tip! Will do
Will this cut thin sheet metal and or aluminum? Say 0.5mm or 1mm thick, even with multiple passes? That would be great!
No you can't cut any metal or aluminum the best you can do is mark it wand even that you need a coating. You would need a fiber laser to do that or a very powerful Co2
@@jonsaircond8520 20w and above lasers can cut some thin metal
🤔Where is the link to the new laser channel?
youtube.com/@HookedOnLasers?si=wVnn2SkmI-cIuw-a
Fixed it. See my description of the video
Hi Dennis, Great video. I tried to order this laser but it says cannot be delivered to this address. I live in England, can you tell why that is?
I guess you should choose order from China.I chose the wrong shipping address and was unable to place an order.But it worked out in the end.
Hi Dennis.
Hi Robert😀
How much different does the air assist make?
All the difference. You need air assist. This amount of air assist is not to create a better cut, but more to avoid the lens from becoming dirty. You need to clean the lens regularly. Without air assist, you will have to clean it too much and with large projects, it gets dirty during work.
@@HookedonWood thanks for the info!
Begin laser IGNITION! -Frau Farbissina
You’ll be able to get a robot in your ‘woodworking’ shop soon so you’ll be able to report on what fantastic engineering woodwork it’s doing on your behalf. Great progress.
There are more angles to look at woodworking. Some do everything with analog tools, other like to use power tools instead. I think "different" is the right approach. Not good or bad! I think a lot of woodworkers do have a CNC machine in their shop. I bet they still enjoy everything they do and even expand the possibilities they can create. So, you indeed could say progress.
Blame the youtube algorithm! It keeps giving me your videos because I like looking at carpentry. I suppose because you have wood in your title it doesn't recognise that you are mainly another gear channel. I'll do my best to ignore your videos.@@HookedonWood
A laser without an enclosure to block unintended reflections and remove toxic/corrosive fumes is just asking for trouble. Please at least set a good example by filming yourself wearing the proper eye protection (though I wouldn't trust the glasses included in these cheap kits ... invest in some proven high end ones because you only get one set of eyes).
I was just reviewing this unit, because of that I had it open. I do not use a diode laser normally, so a Co2 laser is much more secure. But I get your point, and will address this more when I do another review.
@@HookedonWood Thanks. It's so important to set a good example. Maker's Muse did a really good video earlier this year (I think) on safety of these diode lasers. I know a few of the Chinese makers have also started selling enclosures for them that make them a bit safer for both light and fume extraction.
How much money do you get from banggood? I can not trust your reviews, they are surely paid. Because I ordered laser engraver from banggood, one week later laser is not send yet. Then I found a lot of people complaining that after order they got an info the goods is not on stock. How can I trust your reviews, when you have so many positive reviews of goods from such a cheater company?
Sorry to hear your experience. I have no bad experience in the past with them. I am familiar that sometimes the products run out of stock after my video. But mostly they create new stock quickly. But my reviews are about the products, and I never recommend a product that I did not like. Of course, I try to look at the best products they have. I show every aspect I tell about in my videos. So, if I tell it is square, I show it is square. etc, This laser is not from Banggood but from Neje. But again, sorry to read your story.
Ohh honestly u have how much coming in from subs, but honestly gow does anyone /working class have the chance to buy one of these while feeding kids keeping em warm and everything else pal, at times u need to REALISE HOW MUCH U HAVE MONEY WISE and the rest of us mere mortals ffs
I realize that every day! But does this mean, that I do can not make these reviews? I test some more expansive tools, but mostly affordable tools. But I want to create my dream workshop also, and that one is build to what I can achieve. Besides that, you must realize that, because of my channel, I am interested for brands and most of them support me when I want to buy something for myself. I am always, great full but I also want to enjoy life.