The advertising industry calls us extremists; are you one too?
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If wanting privacy is being an extremist then I'll proudly accept the title
ditto!
I'm with you on that.
Welcome to my world 😈
Same:)
And here I thought it was owning enough guns to overthrow a small nation that made me an extremist. Nah, just the privacy.
If I am an extremist for being tired of every waking moment of my life being filled with advertisements, unless I go out of my way to filter them out in some way, then I am happy to be called an extremist.
You're an ordinary private citizen. They are the extremists.
"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice." - Barry Goldwater
If every waking moment of your life is is filled by advertisements, you’re not living.
Moreover, I have a hunch that the person Louis is quoting thinks most so-called extremists are mainly non-woke, non-leftist. Just a hunch
We are headed for a Max Headroom world of blipverts and legislation blocking us from not watching them.
Advertisers being parasitic while calling everyone else evil is beyond ridiculous
AMEN!!!
The advertiser cries out as he strikes you.
@@HiddenEvilStudiosthe Christian cries out as he strikes you.
It's circumstances like this that warrant drawing the distinction between the 'parasite' and the 'parasitoid'. Advertising as it exists now is the parasitoid because it kills the host.
It's fascist rhetoric. No, this isn't hyperbole. It really is. It's a strategy used by CEOs in failing industries. Fourth-person industry speak coupled with tribal us (strong) vs. them (weak & strong), said behind the facade of being on the side of good (with examples how we're so good).
If wanting privacy, protection from malware ads, faster loading webpages and not "now playing 1 out 5 ads" makes me an extremist then I proudly proclaim myself to be an extremist.
Google Chrome's Manifest V3: CEASE AND LIMIT EXTREMISM ACTIVITIES!!
@@Mario583a*Laughs in firefox*
@@Mario583a laughs in ublock
@@Mario583a *laughs in Destroying googles hq with an m4 along side my buddies.*
The fact that they chose not to livestream the conference should really tell you everything you need to know about how much they can be trusted to tell the truth.
If they live stream that they'd have to take a break every 30 seconds to serve an advertisement. It really getting the way of their conference and they know it
That sofa just screams extremism.
One man with that much room to sit comfortably is definitely dangerous, not to mention that cat....
Yep. Super Villian confirmed.
all we need is a scene of louis petting his cat while staring into the camera with malicious intent
I'm all for a super villain if at the very least he destroys the advertisement and personal data collection industries. Sometimes you gotta fight fire with fire.
Literally Dr. Claw from Inspector Gadget, unmistakably evil
Advertisers are probably wanting to buy adspace on that couch right now
Oh i like the reference, even if unintentional
If I'm an extremist, then what made me an extremist was the advertisement industry. They groomed me into extremism ever since I was a kid
Them pop ups would turn anyone extreme.
I think the underlying problem is, that the advertising industry has grown beyond what people can endure.
So they basically complain about their economic bubble being about to pop.
I actually like it. We're approaching moment when big corporation calling someone an extremist, would be correctly treated with ridicule. We're one step closer.
Considering current day and age, it may actually flop and become official label in an attempt to "shame" all people, who don´t like ads.
Because most people think, they are supposed to just silently bear the abuse.
Imagine that your Siri, Alexa or Google Home start bombarding you with ads before you can use the basic functions. People would be up in arms. But it's topsy turvy world where big companies want to dictate how we should use OUR devices.
If they can't get us to conform with their "logic" then they will make the smear more intense. The next step is the alt-right extremist label.
@@TheSlashd0t Simple, shut that shit off or delete it and start doing things the old way.
I'm not sure if you are joking or what you are talking about. Louis is ridiculing them, people on this channel are, but I see no reason to think it's anything but an
*extreme* minority. I'm amazed at how much acceptance of advertising and consumerism has become normalized over my lifetime and how much the "counter culture" disappeared to almost extinction. Complaining against big corporations (I don't mean Louis or this channel's subscribers) still accepts rank consumerism, it's just people want their consumerism (and ads) fed to them differently - but every younger group accepts it more and more. It's the long con.
I am also an extremist. I'm extremely tired of all the bullshit happening in the tech, manufacturing, and videogame industries.
video game*
I am an extremist, because I am extremely in favour of consumer rights.
I am an extremist, I think the word extreme is cool
The industrial r3v0luti0n and its consequences...
@@hovesssharedspace8490it's cooler if you spell it Xtreme
Calling someone an “extremist” has become the war cry of those losing the intellectual argument.
Or "woke" or "pc"
@acerlOstream Nah, I’d say those two words describe you loonie lefturds quite well, actually. Stay salty though! 🤣
@@acerIOstream you mean those are the people that use the term, right?
they're too stupid to realise that 50% of the population have an above average IQ, and that they talk to the other 50%
@@TheMattTrakker no, someone using the term "woke" in a negative manner is very much turning into the indication that they are losing...
I was fine with sidebar ads, they got greedy and now most websites are unreadable with all the junk popping up and screaming in your face.
It's interesting how many sites think a full page coverup preventing any use of their site is totally critical and a better option than just not storing meaningless identifiers on every visitor's computers. They just think tracking has to be done, and precisely that clumsily, no matter what.
The entire concept of ads online baffles me. I don’t think I’ve ever looked at one and said “wow, what an interesting product that I want to buy!”. If I get an intrusive ad that disrupts my browsing experience, it instantly goes into my list of things to never buy. Completely tanks all interest I may have had
Its not really about selling a specific product. Its to make you aware of certain brands and their products, so you're more likely to go for the advertised option (You see it all the time typa deal) Think of coca cola, samsung etc. They keep advertising for this specific reason.
And then ultimately, it'll lead to more sales in general.
Online advertising exists because it works. People buy stuff online every second. That you hate online ads doesn't mean the entire population does.
It worked with one thing for me: Loop earplugs. Not the first brand I tried, certainly not the cheapest, but after another brand of reusable earplugs made me bleed, I thought "What the hell, they don't cost an arm and a leg, and maybe they are worth the money." Don't regret it, but in that case, it was a product I was looking for anyways and I had been shopping around with limited success.
i actually got some good deals occasionally through online ads. but i dont want them shoved in my every waking second!
Imagine sending out ads and knowing everywhere that ad is recieved, why do you think they send you ads based of your conversation
I'm surprised that they never pulled the "WOULD SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!" card to justify taking people rights and freedoms.
The establishment has other plans for our children.
advertisers didn't but politicians that want to remove or compromise encryption routinely use that as an excuse
That would be argument for blocking ads. If you were a parent would you like your son to see ads with bare women?
The problem is that they think too much of the children. In the wrong ways.
@@RicardoSantos-oz3ujA fun way to spot politicians in the wild is to shout "think of the children" in a public space and then pay close attention to everyone's groins.
Some of the extremist tendencies I have: wanting privacy, making health choices for myself, believing I own things I purchase, questioning 'experts', and not getting my news from television.
Knowing your religion, knowing your sex, knowing your politics, knowing your economy, knowing your law, knowing your rights.
@@elinope4745 Thanks! Now I can apply for disability!
if being an "extremist" means i didn't give every single company in all of the marketing ad networks my personal information, then yes and I'm glad to be one.
We're not extremists. He's projecting that he's an extremist advertiser.
Search your feelings... you know it's true... you want people who trashed internet with adds to be tarred and feathered...
:D :D :D
@@useodyseeorbitchute9450 yes. I do 😁
@@useodyseeorbitchute9450 You forgot lit on fire...
Im a extremist. I have a extremly negative opinion against projecting people.
@@useodyseeorbitchute9450Your tracking cookies will be replaced by Dark Side Cookies™ if you do.
If I had a nickel for every time someone I didn’t know or care about decided I was an extremist for doing what they don’t like, I would have a staggering amount of money
Which is weird since it happens a lot, right?
@@Mario583a Nah it stopped being weird after like the 10th time.
@@elinope4745 It's a symptom that the very language which we use to speak has been ideologically weaponized. There is no man on earth who can change the mind of someone who would go as far as to pervert an entire language in order to deceive.
Well said.
It is just the consequences of thoughts being more "safe" by passing time, with those "safe" thoughts that made us an ostritch, and anything else is an extremist.
- The system is against you.
- If someone disagrees with me, bad. It means they're extremists.
- Somehow the old way of doing things doesn't work anymore, even if decades passed without any issue.
- For some reason I need to mention black people and minorities
Wow, this guy covered all points! 😂
The problem with Apple limiting tracking is that it's done first and foremost to give advantage to their own ad network.
I've been dubbed an extremist and terrorist many times by several organizations for having a working brain. At this point, if somebody as chill as me is getting called names like that, I'd say it's good to be someone that they don't like.
Terrorism is using intimidation and violence as means to an end.
By this definition, all governments are terrorist organizations. And everyone that works for a terrorist organization is by definition a terrorist.
Yeah. I've been called an extremist too for simply pointing out statistics. Or once for repeating what a TV news report said. And not just online. Family and friends too. Fortunately I've not had anyone stop talking to me or anything over it, but it's really bizarre how people are willing to call a friend names over not believing something they could actually look at themselves because it's public information.
@@tin2001 It feels like there's a societal war against having your own thoughts and observations. Pretty freaky stuff if we're being real. Humanity is special for being able to do those things and decide what to do about them, yet we're supposed to skip all that and bark like a dog when they ask us to.
@@jaysonrees738 I feel so strongly against Apple that I'm slowly trying to "convert" my Apple-using friends without being pushy, but I'm a) not doing it very well and b) not wanting to come off like a cultist. Everyone who has passion against the current zeitgeist defaults seems to be extreme.
@@tin2001 Yes! It is nice to see I am not alone in seeing what others don't see.
But I have realized that I am a mutant though as most things like this crap Rossmann shows here, doesn't seem to work on me.
Can we start calling these hyper-online surveillance privacy invaders extremists?
I ran a test and it was quite telling, now I don't own or work with horses but I searched to buy horse feed and other horse products, literally second or third website I got horse advertisements.
@@honeybadger6275 Nope.
ATF just started harassing a subscriber of Reno May for searching FRT on Gunbroker and now want him to turn it in....when he never even bought one, just literally searched it. And they think we are the extremists for wanting privacy lol they over here trying to arrest anyone for anything just based on assumptions.
Call them what they are. Cybercrimminals.
@@elinope4745 That's funny. They were just being edgy and adding nothing of value to the discussion though. Unless you think anti-semitism is something of value.
I’ve been an “extremist” for 15+ years, mainly because I think that individuals should be free to think and act as they see fit provided that they don’t harm others.
Ah, the summarized anarchist manifesto.
@@0LoneTech The summarized US Declaration of Independence.
Adblock isn't just a QoL issue. It's a security/safety issue. Until ad companies step up and offer compensation for any and all damage that their malicious ads cause, then the adblock stays on.
He said the core issue with ads in beginning of the speech.
If click through rate is 0.44%, average person needs to watch 227 ads to find 1 relevant one. Ads somehow became way less relevant despite companies now knowing everything about you.
This entire system is broken, clearly annoying for users, and very likely unprofitable for companies purchasing ads.
Ads are noise. It doesn't matter if ad is relevant to me because even if it is and even if my ad block doesnt block it I would scroll past it out of habit.
Once you remove accidental clicks the actual click through date is probably 0.0044%.
hmmm yes im sure the 500 billion dollar industry is just throwing away money and totally isn't insanely fucking profitable. mate, it's not about you clicking and buying, it's about manipulating you into choosing their product when you go to the store or otherwise want to buy. They're paying to imprint a memory of their brand on you.
Yeah i'm with nicholas on that, .44 is for stuff in very niche areas and it's considered a super click rate. Just consider that you probably get 140 ads in 6 hours and you rarely ever buy stuff from ads.
I don't think they really know all that much. It's talked about that way, and yeah, they have massive amounts of data, but how accurate is that? I use Facebook a lot, and they have this ability to see how your interests have been categorized. They had a long list of interests logged in my account details, and out of curiosity I tried to estimate how much they really know. Estimated about 25% was in the category "I don't know if I like it or not, because I don't know what it is". Then about 25% in the category "I hate this". Again 25% in the category "I'm indifferent or it's ok". Only about 25% were true interests of mine.
I guess this perfectly explains why I get ads like for a christian dating app, when I'm an atheist who has been married for over 20 years.
Whenever I hear that Apple makes it more difficult for advertisers to track their consumers, I find it more likely they are just keeping all that information for themselves. It is hard to fathom that the company that juices it's customers at every level is leaving this portion out.
It came out not too long ago that Apple doesn't put those pop ups asking for permission to spy on you on their own apps despite collecting all of the same data that they make other developers declare, so that's not even really speculation at this point
Or they are just lying
As a diehard Apple fan, the only ads I see on Apple News are ads for hearing aids. Kinda annoying but way better than hyper targeted ads
Apple takes the data and sells it to the highest bidder. Apple is one of the grossest corporations on the planet.
They succeeded in advertising for decades before the internet and data mining. The advertisers were so successful they were able to sponsor shows on radio and tv and even have naming rights for the shows. So if data mining went away tomorrow and privacy advocates won, advertising would survive and thrive with no more data than you could get by word of mouth with no electronics at all.
Search laffer curve, they would prosper more.
You know what's extremist? Advertisers that shove so much crap onto a website that it cripples it and makes it impossible to view the only thing you're on the site to look at with popup ads, blaring audio, flashing banner ads, unskipable ads on videos, etc. I don't consent to a North Korean style re-education camp just to check the damn temperature outside.
Consent as a concept is rapidly fading.
The average person is exposed to 5,000 ads per DAY! And we're the extremists?
I don't think the average person doesn't have adblock. Yep, just checked it: about 42.7 % of users have adblock. Are you telling me that a person not using it would see about 10.000 ads?
Idk, but in a day you can easily get more than 1k ads navigating the web.
@@mikelord93 That number also includes ads from TV, radio, billboards, signs, etc. Areas where there is no adblock.
That number appears to be one of those easily quotable myths. There's an article on it from the Drum, though it's largely inconclusive; the main indication is just that the number was made up rhetoric, as far as it can be traced. More telling is the part where the advertising agency representatives don't want to give a real number. Remember, they're selling the ads, not whatever the ads are for.
Also notable, that article remarked on an ad every 3 minutes as being a frightening, overblown and scary proposition. Cable TV, Tiktok and CZcams easily surpass that. 😮
Totally extremist! I even use scriptblockers to remove annoying anti-adblock layers from newspaper sites!
Teach me master!
I don't even bother when i see stuff like that, i ask on reddit.
Adguard for mobile. Ublock origin for pc
Newspaper sites have been more risky than porn sites when it comes to malware in ads ^.^
I am an extremist too! Extremely unwilling to be subjected poorly regulated ads , sideloading malware, or worse, the crap ads for things i dont want made by these people.
In the purest sense, ads are not a bad thing; but more and more ad companies have incorporated dishonest, harmful, and even outright evil practices.
The group that wants infinite access to all of our information so they can profit (and control) calls us names? I am shocked, SHOCKED! Well, not that shocked...
I can be an extremist. I for one want the advertising industry to burn whilst I vigorously laugh at it.
Damn straight I am. I am ZERO TOLERANCE on advertisements. It's why I don't watch broadcast TV. It's why I don't watch YT on my phone. It's part of why I don't leave my house very often. I **hate** advertising. In all of its forms.If I had my druthers I'd ban advertisements showcasing anything for-profit, political, or medical in all of their forms.
i watch youtube on my phone with brave browser. it does everything youtube red does but for free
It's official. Wanting privacy, wanting to not be robbed, and not supporting child abuser makes you an extremist. Extremist has now become one of the kindest and most respectable titles you can work to achieve.
4:58 Driving addiction is actually a pretty good point when it comes to internet ads, no matter what it is, if you have support groups in your internet history they're going to show you Budweiser ads. That's actually a really good reason to protect yourself against ads if you needed one. They also are a vector for malware, so overall you're just a lot safer without ads.
I swear, if I see another Chick-fil-A or MyPillow ad, I'm going to uninstall Chrome.
@@Johnny.Fedorauninstall chrome anyways, even if you never see one of these ads again
Also goes for eating disorders / weight loss ads.
Wait what
What the fffffr
1:39 - notice they never said "consumers" or "users." That very exclusion from the invitation list is an explicit "we don't care about you" middle finger to everyone who uses the Internet.
The autoplay video ads with loud music was what turned me into an adblocker using extremist and life have been much better ever since.
We don't need advertising. The closest thing to an ad that has *some* use is paid reviews, and even those are on thin ice. Word of mouth is the only "advertisement" worth anything.
This is called an ad hominem attack. They also push a straw man down a slippery slope too but let's not get excited.
They attack the person rather than the argument because they didn't have to defend their own position.
They CAN'T defend their position. They HAVE to attack the dissenting messenger.
oh boy they are going for the logical fallacy speedrun 100%
@@marcogenovesi8570 I am still waiting till they get too " no true Scotsman"
True but.. Whenever posible avoid pulling the "that's a fallacy card".
Since it stops you from confronting a flawed argument.
@@absolutium sorry what? Calling out a fallacy already confronts it. It's not an argument it's word trickery.
"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the protection of liberty is no virtue"
Networks morally lost the war on adblock when that one Turner executive outright said that going to the toilet during commercials was only acceptable in limited quantity.
one Turner executive did WHAT
All in moderation, especially moderation.
@@Eichrom not sure of the context but one Turner executive complained that people were using commercials to go to the bathroom.
Remember viewers don't pay for television, advertisers pay for television viewers are the actual product. Programming could perhaps best be described as bait.
The way Barry Goldwater said it (it was not original with him): "I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!" I was home alone and stayed up late to watch the acceptance speech in which he said that. I found it to be inspiring. The news media were not pleased.
@M167A1 We are getting closer to toilets that play ads, aren't we? I'm gonna be sick. 🤢
I've been an anti ad extremist since '04😂, I've had a hardware ad blocker pie hole on my Wi-Fi since they first came out, I have never paid for cable or satellite TV, I refuse to watch any commercial supported television or listen to any commercial radio😂, when I drive down the interstate I keep eyes front so I don't see billboards😂 every Android phone I've ever owned has been rooted and had an ad blocker😅
I don't mind the radio, it makes good propaganda, but television ads are garbage for corporations.
Radio ads offer stuff you might really buy, real useful stuff and services, tv's just sell their souls to the highest bidder.
Yeah, I love paying for a service, being bombarded by ads, tracked, profiles built on my without my consent, and information being sold to anyone with some money, regardless of their intent.
I'm extremely annoyed by ads. So i suppose i'm an extremist.. So many websites are almost unusable because of them, local news sites especially. 45% of my screen gets covered by ads while i attempt to read an article, and then theres an autoplaying ad video every 6 lines of text that i often end up clicking by accident, half way through i realise that this whole article was just clickbait.
Ad-click bait clickbait!
How incestuous...
It's even more infuriating if you're reading on a phone on 4g and have a net quota and the fucking video loads on 720p with the highest bitrate available, that's almost r*pe.
Yep.
I won't even look at news sites anymore because of it. They are the worst. How are you supposed to read an article while the text is constantly jumping up and down the page because of ads loading?
A big cheese of the ad industry having a meltdown like this is absolutely brilliant. Prelude to total implosion.
However, having looked around a bit, a lot of the digital ad industry pushed back, or condemned his remarks, or simply distanced themselves from him.
So sadly, it seems unlikely that this man will drag the industry with him on his descent into madness.
Of course they'd push back. They don't want to start an all out battle that may end up with new regulations in the online ad space.
It's because the ones of us who just block their stuff and carry on with our day that they can get to make money from people pushing malware and scams into old, less tech-savvy, people's computers with no consequence. If we were not allowed to block them, the government may want to actually scrutinize the content, while nowadays they hide behind "install bl-cker for security" so it's your fault when you get scammed.
Labeling people who oppose you as "extremists" has become pretty common because it allows people to just decide "well, they're extremists; they're irrational and not worth listening to" rather than incentivizing anyone to sit down and listen to what "the other side" has to say.
Sometimes people actually ARE extremists. Sometimes they're not. But regardless of the issue (tech, advertising, abortion, religion, civil rights, gun ownership, etc), it's so easy to just label EVERYONE who disagrees with you as extremists (and, to be fair, there are extremists on both ends of the spectrum for a lot of these issues) than to try to listen to someone who disagrees with you but ISN'T ACTUALLY an extremist and hold a conversation.
A lot of issues (not all of them, but a lot of them) where there are two major schools of thought can be discussed with a certain amount of nuance in terms of legitimate concerns that people on both sides of the issue have. But that has to start with people on both sides being willing to start by asking people who don't like them "what are your concerns and how can I address them in a way that we can both be happy with" instead of just saying "I'm objectively right and anyone who disagrees is an extremist."
Some extremists are extremely worth listening to. For instance, RMS holds the position that software should all be fully user respecting, which he branded as "free software". I think, like the patent system, there could be a more moderate position; e.g. video games could have a window of time when they're not freely reproducible, for rewarding the developers, much like the patent system was intended. Some corporations like Disney and Nintendo hold views at the opposite extreme, that the populace should not have the choice to even maintain their purchased games, let alone share them.
abortion is not an 'issue', it is a fundamental human right as healthcare service
@@sayonaragoodbye9818 I'm pro-abortion but I'm anti-"replying to a four month old post on youtube to try to start an argument with a stranger when you clearly understood the point they were making"
Nothing is more hilarious to me than a conference of advertisers getting their own ad techniques used on them by someone giving a speech… if only they weren’t so stupid as to fight us all because of it
Yes, we are extremist. We like to download bears off the internet without being tracked and using ad blockers to prevent any click baits that try to distract us from downloading Bears. 🐻
They just don't want us arming the bears we download.
No you’re bad having advertising that’s literally trying to get you to think it’s the download link is normal. You being against that makes you a jihadist
free the bears!
Joe Rogan is that you?
Advertisers are literally just trying to make their own jobs relevant. They shove so much advertising down and rely on the law of averages to show "hey look at how much attention we brought" without ever showing return on investment or how much revenue they actually generate vs how much they actually cost.
They are trying to protect their jobs from being taken away by the realization that their budget is bloated, their advertising is trash, and they are completely at fault.
I'm an extremist because I'm literally immune to advertising. I run adblockers religiously, and I have no money for impulsive purchases anyway. So the only way their ads will ever convert to my purchases is if they are advertising ramen noodles and processed deli meat.
*conform?
Proud to me an "extremist" for more than 5 years, and still counting; been using ad blockers on my PC, laptop & all 3 of my phones.
The man straight up got on stage and gave a Legion of Doom speech.
"We stand for the flag here."
Underated comment
You can't disagree with anything these days without being baselessly labeled as the most abhorrent piece of trash.
You are the most abhorrent piece of trash. /s
I can't help myself.
How dare you said that, ad-denier! Your post has been reported for my peace of mind 😂
You gotta just lean into it. The goal is to make you justify yourself to your accuser, if you don't then the strategy fails. That's how the whole "deplorable" thing backfired.
I am that piece of trash, funny they still want my money! Track me, I don't go anywhere.😮.
To be fair, most people are abhorrent trash.
A lot of people are calling us extremists for a lot of reasons these days. This is just one of them.
Today's would-be tyrants can't lock up people they don't like for just existing. First they have to gradually normalize the idea that everything they do is extremist and dangerous. Frankly this fact should be ringing alarm bells in everyone's heads. Indulging these politicians' slimy use of language is how our concept of freedom and justice will end.
Oh boy if only the advertising industry knew what we're calling them
Literal clap trap.
I never knew that becoming an extremist was so easy, after all the effort I've put into it! 😂
How long until he blames China, Russia, Ukraine, Mexico ... ?
@@BroonParkerdude, you know it's the Jewish Eskimos from Timbuktu that are behind all this, right?
You make advertising sound like an STD.
@@BroonParker Bro it's always Stan
Having that label for protecting your info and privacy as advised by every alphabet agency? What have we come to??
Is IAB an alphabet agency, albeit a particularly rubbish one
I don't remember the last time I have bought something based on advertising. Practically everything I buy is either from researching what I need or someone doing that for me when I have no idea where to start.
*I have all the power because turning it off and going outside is the ultimate ad blocker.*
Being an extremist never felt so much more simple than coming to a closed convention to only hear gaslighting wrapped in political speech style. But most of all, it never felt so right in comparison.
If you're pissing of those controlling to worsen your experience
You're probably doing a good thing
Yeah it's like pissing the leftists, you oughta be doing something good.
filtered.
-youtube
I've been served multiple 45 minute long ads for Prager U. Yes, advertising can die and fade into obscurity.
I haven't been able to watch "TV" for almost 15 years because of people like the guy in the letter. He would duct tape me to my chair, prop my eyes open (Clockwork Orange!) and show me ads 24/7 if he had his way! I will go without before I watch another ad. It's all not watchable with all the ads. I love my ad blocker.
Ah yes, moments like this when getting called an extremist actually makes me want munch on popcorn even harder, as I enjoy the drama and tantrum of my acuser as they roll themselves on the ground, scream and yell, whilst I mostly silently enjoy teh show of someone making a fool out of themselves!
Now there is an advertising opportunity that might sell some product..
What brand do you recommend?
i cant wait until doing your own grocery shopping becomes an extremist activity
Oh it's coming. In some corners of the internet, shunning processed food is considered "orthorexia"
@@clobberelladoesntreadcomme9920 processed food should be shunned, shits terrible and terrible for you
I mean apparently going to the gym is extremists now based off one article I seen lol
To a crime syndicate like the advertisement industry, justice is always going to appear extreme...🤦🏼♂️
ALL advertisements are either a scam or something I do not want or rarely something I would get without the ad. How many billions of dollars have ad agencies, Facebook, Twitter, and Google made from known scammers that we report again and again and they still do it?
Its not about companies being able to advertise based on interest, its about companies not being able to spy on every aspect of someones life
20:00 No, email was made free by DoD money, universities money and volunteers that wrote RFC 821. Ads companies turned it into endless spam and oligopoly.
Ah yes, digital advertising. One of the greatest inventions since the printing press and gunpowder.
If adblocking for privacy and security reasons is wrong then I don't want to be right.
You can usually tell what type of mood he’s in with how he greets us
Are we finally coming to the realization words mean nothing…?
Perception trumps reality
“Destroy the industry” sound a lot worse than ‘force the industry to adapt’ - what actually always happens when an existing industry have regulations put on them..
We live in a world where normal ideas and thoughts are called extremist. I can not take these sorts of people serious.
What's funny is that they're using valid arguments to defend their position, like preserving a free internet, but then it all crumbles when you remember that these advertising agents will fold over to any big corporation or government if it means getting more money.
No no no, this is the issue with English only having the 1 word "free" for multiple different meanings. They mean free like free beer. Google assistant is free as in free beer and it's shitware spying garbage. The only thing you should ever concern yourself over is the free as in freedom internet. Ads threaten this, not the other way around.
Oh yeah. I've been an extremist ever since I realized who it is Every Single Time. I'll gladly be labeled an extremist for not wanting them to surveil me 24/7.
Oy vey, stop noticing patterns.
what?
Those advertisment companies are the ones violating law ' Invasion of Privacy ' with all the tracking they do with user data. If they followed the law, there would be no end using tracking at all.
I was thrilled to pay for Hulu when it first came out then they STILL decided to waste my time with ads eventually. Stopped using them, canceled service immediately and never looked back
I am happy to pay for an ad free experience, advertising does absolutely nothing but piss me off and make me completely avoid the product for trying to shove their shit in my face.
We are extremest because advertiser's are predatory ,harassing and invasive.
I seriously hope Louis isn’t “suicidal”.
John McAfee moment
I love life
@@rossmanngroupSo did John McAfee...
The advertisers know where you live... and they know where you die.
Rossman will be fine. thinking someone will delete him for speaking his mind is a bit, may I say, extreme?
One of the reasons I gave up cable, was the advertising and the monthly cost.
The reason.
Hell, I’m so extreme that I would PAY for adblocking software…
The online ad industry destroyed itself with greed. Likely 99.99999% of on like ads are effectively trying to cheat people out of money, mislead, or scam them. Even when they are unimpeded in their tracking, they still show bad ads. For example, if I am looking for 140mm fans with higher RPMs and static pressure to replace the fans on my NH-D15 heatsink, then show me ads for fans that offer more airflow and static pressure than the stock fans. I have tried disabling all ad blocking and all privacy and even with insane amount of tracking, (tons of CPU time spent on tracking scripts), none of the ads had anything to do with 140mm fans. Instead much of it was for scam products and overpriced junk from shady sites offering the junk at higher prices than amazon and Newegg.
Aside from that, there is no accountability for ad networks, thus there is no motivation for them to deal with scammers and malvertising. The people in my neighborhood who used to constantly get their systems infected, stopped having those issues when ads were blocked on all of their browsers.
If you look at sites like bleeping computer, you will see reports covering boilerplate no apologies from a wide range of major sites when they get caught serving ads that also run a large exploit toolkit and result in tens tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of people getting their systems infected with malware that steals their passwords and encrypts their files for ransom.
Far fewer people would block ads if the ad companies were treated like how certificate authorities are treated, where a breach of trust, allowing fraudulent or malicious abuse of the system, will often get every major browser and OS maker to blacklist that certificate authority, thus effectively putting them out of business. This forces then to be more proactive in dealing with abuse.
that would be one step in the right direction honestly i want bodies of advertisement firm leaders to start turning up with the words "Ad Blocked" carved into their porcine hide see if they get the message then
There was once a time when advertising was used to help support the free and open internet.
Today content is used to push advertising. Big ad companies have purchased a lot of mainstream websites, or they've created websites like BuzzFeed. They use clickbait articles to push ads.
When less than 10% of my screen is content and most of it is advertising and it's full motion video, then you realize the content actually was not really any content. It was just there to get you to click through. That's the problem.
They want the max headroom world where having an off switch on a TV was considered illegal.....
Did you saw the last ad tv with the telescreen? That's reality now.
@@fss1704 yeah. It's disgusting for multiple reasons. They're going to be pushing advertising to people who can't afford a $500 TV. So that means the poorest people will be the ones pushed advertising to buy junk and continue to spend money they don't have....
I think I read they had 50,000 orders? That's sad
Web searches have been made far less usable by floods of computer generated content to get you to see ads. Try searching for food recipes. You'll come across hundreds of sites rambling on many things only tangentially related to a recipe for a few pages worth of text before you actually come across the ingredients so that you have to scroll past more ads.
There's a Calvin and Hobbes where Calvin talks about how his dad won't fill out any surveys and pays for everything in cash.
That way he won't be targetable by ads.
I increasingly feel Calvin's dad, Ron Swanson, and I would see eye to eye on some things.
Privacy is a basic human right, these advertisers are the real extremists ... and, of course, they're projecting,
CZcams thinks I live in Mexico and am an avid purchaser of high end fashion at this point 😂
Wow
When I woke up today i didn't imagine i would actually feel honored to be labeled as an extremist
I've been sitting here really thinking hard about it and I can honestly say that I don't think ads ever influenced me into buying a single thing after my kid/teenager years. Whenever I see an ad, I kinda put that product on a do not buy list in the back of my mind. As a kid tho it's way different since kids shows are just a big ad for kids to bug their parents to buy them this or that. Thankfully I had a mom who knew exactly how to deal with me and I got some toys but not all the ones I wanted but still was very happy as a kid.
Been 5 years since I cut cable out of my life so that's pretty refreshing. Also I can't surf the net without an ad blocker cause if I do, which I tried on a virtual machine just for kicks, the amount of garbage trackers and other crap those ads put on your computer, no wonder ad blockers are the norm now. Hell even scammers use ads to scam people but you don't see advertisers rush to deal with that issue. If tomorrow I couldn't use any ad blockers anymore, chances are I'd just go outside and touch grass more and stop surfing as much.
2:56 ironic the advertising industry worrying about _others_ destroying the internet
This channel is incredibly based.
Also I’m waiting for that singing dryer destruction video.
The surveillance economy and mandatory renting have indeed radicalised me to care about my privacy and other rights as a citizen and customer, as well as those of others. 🏴☠️
Ads were regulated on the TV to not be allowed to exceed some decible threshold, _because_ ads then would maliciously make their volume twice as loud as the show you were watching, _because_ people would get up and walk away during commercials, _because_ people *don't want to be advertised to.*
Ads on the internet need to hindered and regulated, they are out of control. Actively preventing you from doing the thing you are trying to do should be a digital crime.
"Your hatred of ads and desire to maintain your privacy borders on the extreme"
"Thank you for noticing"
Early experience as a child taught me the unfortunate lesson that tv style adverts were likely a few minutes of being lied to to part you from cash or influence... I've gone out of my way to stop them from influencing me. Word of mouth, related experiences, even what I see on a shelf and the such, play a far more important role for me, Pros and Cons, with a dash of research if it's required... Maybe that is just me🤷♀
XKCD 870 applies.
Yes extremist ad blocker 😻😻. If they had streamed this event they would have been clowned on so badly 😂😂
I worked in the ad/ad tech industries for years. These beliefs are pervasive among even the non-executive crowd, many of them truly believe ads are a force for good and that we should all love brands. Privacy isn’t a consideration, they all just pretend it’s someone else’s problem.
Not everyone in the industry is like this, of course. Many use ad blockers and would qualify as “extremists”. Most of them just like making things you can see on the side of a bus or on TV.
Also when the guy says “digital” he means digital ads, aka surveillance capitalism.
I put up with the advertisements for years. I just considered it as a fair part of the deal. Then advertisers got too greedy. The onslaught of ads on youtube and other platforms became absurd. So I blocked all ads. The reality is that MBA toting weasels always shit on everything they touch. They exist only to try to chisel more profits while wrecking the product. Tracking consumers is just creepy and lame. Someone else uses my computer to watch something about folding diapers and checks out some holidays. Then I get bombarded with ads for diapers and holidays. Then you get seriously creepy stuff like mentioning something in a gmail then seeing targeted ads for whatever you mentioned. Some Google bot scanned your email to see what data they could sell to advertisers.