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  • čas přidán 20. 02. 2024
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    This is an ideology gaining in popularity amongst tech billionaires that the world is inevitably heading toward a collapse, and that instead of trying to prevent that collapse, we should rip off the band aid as fast as possible so we can get to the better world on the other side. While there’s a cold logic to it, it’s a dangerous philosophy that ignores the incalculable human suffering that such a collapse would create.
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  • @GEOMETRICINK
    @GEOMETRICINK Před 2 měsíci +7229

    I think we’re just dealing with greedy psychopaths justifying their unjustifiable bad behavior.

    • @user-nb2ls8zd2v
      @user-nb2ls8zd2v Před 2 měsíci +13

      I mean my dear that’s really bad….can you tell me more about this🙏

    • @TheMapman01
      @TheMapman01 Před 2 měsíci

      Where does that even come from ​@@mentat1341

    • @Akabans999
      @Akabans999 Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@@mentat1341not money but greed. Even if we had barter economy greedy a*holes would still find a way to acumulate whealth and/or power.
      Look at shit shows in history and root cause always goes back to greed (when its not natural disaster).
      It can be dresed up as varius reasons, excuses, delusions but it always goes back to "more than I have now".

    • @WmdDracula
      @WmdDracula Před 2 měsíci +73

      I’ll throw the first stone if you guys follow up 😂😂😭

    • @FirstLast-vr7es
      @FirstLast-vr7es Před 2 měsíci

      To be fair, that is often misinterpreted. Money isn't really the root of all evil. The LOVE of money is the root of all evil. Greed. And you've got to admit, some positively nasty things have been one in the name of greed. By the church as well, as you mentioned. Irony. @@mentat1341

  • @tylerskiss
    @tylerskiss Před měsícem +288

    I think that we just have some absurdly wealthy people closing in on death suddenly aware they can’t take all of it with them and they are envious of the younger people so they want to break all the toys before they go.
    My true disappointment comes from all those willing to assist them.

    • @promptcraft
      @promptcraft Před měsícem +5

      They want to accelerate towards immortality- the rest of us be damned

    • @mikeohawk95
      @mikeohawk95 Před měsícem +3

      I’ve noticed that on my own even though also 1/4 of those I know disagree with me and people like you, even kids since childhood disagree with my honest discovery of these horrid truths and even my dad denial of my views of this and on bad terms for a decade now, and why I left my birth family fir good, and I can’t believe Elon musk wasn’t whom I thought he was and no better then trump in a way and maybe might instead have faith in trumps and elons kid’s instead, they could be instruments to their fall, who knows till either of us meets them in person

    • @mikeohawk95
      @mikeohawk95 Před měsícem +1

      @@promptcraftand that just wrong even though making robots fir spaces and unexpected AI supremacists like sky net

    • @mikeohawk95
      @mikeohawk95 Před měsícem

      accelerationism, so far in video proves its another recipe for disaster, just like communism and stuff!!

    • @sophiagertz1083
      @sophiagertz1083 Před měsícem +2

      Absolutely!!! Crazy mofos.

  • @CitizenEJ257
    @CitizenEJ257 Před měsícem +46

    I agree with your final statement. Taking care of each other will carry us through to the best possible life a lot more effectively than destruction, jealousy and greed.

  • @duffmanjon
    @duffmanjon Před měsícem +90

    I think we as people in general have this idea in our head that other people do things as intentionally as we don't. Most people get in the gear of just doing things out of habit without the best reasons, or any reason at all.

    • @ZSd4cT
      @ZSd4cT Před měsícem +3

      I agree. Societal changes happen both gradually and suddenly, and it does seem like we don't have much control over it, either as individuals or groups. Things kind of happen on their own.

    • @jaimesfolly
      @jaimesfolly Před měsícem +11

      I think we downplay emotions, too.
      Billionaire tells his minions/employees "We will do it this way!" This way fails and has a horrible impact like mass layoffs or environmental destruction. Billionaire loses very little personally and it felt really good to force his will on others regardless of outcome.
      When you have everything, where do you get a dopamine hit? From forcing you new big idea on others. You start a fire and walk away while others burn. You get the fun without the negative consequences.

    • @Arya-1111
      @Arya-1111 Před měsícem +4

      @@ZSd4cT things dont just happen on their own lol ..chemtrails dont happen on their own nor do wars etc

    • @mrzabie0138
      @mrzabie0138 Před měsícem +2

      When you look at how power works, you see that those at the bottom are the ones that plod along, head down preoccupied with just eeking out a living. Whereas, the people with way more resources see themselves as the architects of the future. They move with carefully crafted plans to keep and increase their power and influence over the common people. They know best what is ultimately good for society even if their ideas mean complete disruption of people's lives. They feel free to control people with money, food, armies, resources, energy, pandemics, etc... like pieces on a game board.
      To think that these people are just plodding along with aimless ambitions is to totally underestimate them.

    • @TSorovanMHael
      @TSorovanMHael Před 24 dny +2

      Unfortunately, if there's one thing that's good at protecting and insulating people from destructive habits amd immaturity it's excessive wealth.

  • @M1911jln
    @M1911jln Před měsícem +180

    Thanks for this video. I hadn’t heard the term Accelerationism before. I’ve seen similar philosophies supported on some right of center forums. There is naive but unshakable believe that after society collapses that everything will magically be better. Somehow they are unable to realize that another alternative after everything collapses is a failed state, like Somalia, and that would be terrible for everyone. Somehow they are all convinced that after the collapse they (or people who share their views) will be in charge and this time they will make everything “right.” These philosophies are terribly dangerous and the people who support them are infuriating. They are unable to take to heart the aphorism of “be careful what you wish for, because you just might get it.”

    • @AnnaRueden
      @AnnaRueden Před měsícem

      What you described is definitely a mode of thought amongst the left, too. Nobody thinks they'll end up like Somalia or, say, the Bolsheviks. They all think they'll be post-revolution France. Of course, it gets alarming when you realize your ideological enemies have exactly the same thought, and think THEY will be the ones in charge after the collapse!
      I think it's fundamentally a naive philosophy that doesn't survive long once the person learns more about the world. It's just an easy one to fall into (and stay in, at least for the uncurious), so there are always a few of these people around.

    • @EVILJOHNSAVAGE
      @EVILJOHNSAVAGE Před měsícem

      Order Out Of Chaos. The Dialectic. Problem - Reaction - Solution. We have suffered such Social Engineering attack century after century. We are is such an Accelerated Destruction Cycle now, called THE GREAT RESET. And they have been preparing for the reconstruction longer than they have the Destruction Method. The Great Reset Fourth Industrial Revolution and United Nations Agenda 2030 has already been in the process of Replacing our entire Western Civilization for decades. So while this dweeb is presenting the possibility that Billionaires are Intentionally Destroying Society to Build Back Better, I can tell you WHO is Doing it and How they are doing it. There are far too many armchair Philosophers out there that should stick to contemplating their navel, because you need a Real Conspiracy Researcher to reveal the Truth. I mean come on. Conspiracy Theories are no longer even needed. They are openly telling us what they are planning to do. Wake up...

    • @honkiekowboyiithereturnoft9357
      @honkiekowboyiithereturnoft9357 Před měsícem

      It's not so much that things will magically get better once everything is destroyed, but rather the fact that the current system is failing and will continue to decline until it is destroyed. In that case for things to get better again, the decline must be taken to its conclusion.
      Also leftists have a thing for revolution, don't they?

    • @kathleencove
      @kathleencove Před měsícem

      I’m at the point of preparing for empowering local communities to survive collapse and crisis, while maintaining some semblance of grassroots democracy- because if the psychos in charge plan to throw democracy on a national scale away in favor of globalist technocracy, we best be prepared for what the crazies have decided the inevitable is. They don’t seem to care that they might create a dystopian post-apocalyptic nightmare, they seem to relish the idea if it gives them power 🤦🏻‍♀️

    • @justinwilson1930
      @justinwilson1930 Před měsícem +2

      Or it has always been in their heart and survival of the fittest makes better babies. Who can claim to have all the answers?

  • @metamind411
    @metamind411 Před měsícem +10

    The thing that’s causing me the most anxiety right now is the fact accelerationists exist and some of them are extremely powerful billionaires who can use their power to destroy the world and not suffer from it.

  • @remygallardo7364
    @remygallardo7364 Před 2 měsíci +952

    I went through a doomer phase coming out of high school in 2008 and as a result earned a bachelors degree in emergency management because I feared for what the future would be like. Now I'm actually a lot more comfortable with where the world is going, despite the intensity of the last decade and change. The most important thing I recommend to people with anxieties over the future is to look locally at what you have at your disposal. Find ways you can feed yourself and things you can do to help others within the smallest radius possible and use that as your weighted blanket. The world's massive and the internet makes it feel like it's all at your doorstep and here's every tragedy everywhere happening all at once for you to watch. What is going to matter if anything actually does go critically wrong is what is literally at your doorstep so getting familiar with that is the best way to prepare and ground yourself.

    • @TrekStar11
      @TrekStar11 Před 2 měsíci +84

      Low key inspirational, wishing you the best

    • @francesbernard2445
      @francesbernard2445 Před 2 měsíci +35

      That is my strategy too.

    • @incognitotorpedo42
      @incognitotorpedo42 Před 2 měsíci +50

      Wise advice. There's a lot of doomers out there and they need some help.

    • @nenmaster5218
      @nenmaster5218 Před 2 měsíci +8

      @@TrekStar11 Video here is incomplete without its
      sibling: "Are Rich People Ok??' by Cody

    • @jutru8782
      @jutru8782 Před 2 měsíci +11

      Sound advice. Thank you.

  • @sergeantrickroll9281
    @sergeantrickroll9281 Před měsícem +27

    The problem with societal collapse is that it requires many people to well "disappear" so the alternative is obviously to avoid any collapse to preserve human life and the structure of society because something tells me that once they start rebuilding this new world order, it wont be much better, and probably end a dystopian version of what we have now.

    • @Sammy2phones
      @Sammy2phones Před měsícem +2

      We might get to ocean collapse first. That should take care of society. Hope the billionaires enjoy their new hot, flooded world with less resources.

    • @daviru02
      @daviru02 Před měsícem +4

      I think you've got it! These types of people who want collapse just flat out hate people. Or more accurately, they despise themselves. But, they can't look inward because they'd have to admit their own failures as a person. The people who actually love people and try to help people become better people for their own good, make better societies. It's pretty simple. You can look back at any utopian experiment, historically and see it fail. There has never been a successful one and yet these people always think they can do better than the people before them. It's a never ending cycle of self proclaimed intellectuals repeating what other self proclaimed intellectuals failed at in the past.

  • @ladyspectre8408
    @ladyspectre8408 Před měsícem +69

    Billionaires don't become billionaires by accident. They are very well aware of the state of world affairs and how to play the system to keep themselves on top. It doesnt really matter if generational or cyclical theories are true, only that powerful people believe they are and are acting accordingly.

    • @theMPrints
      @theMPrints Před měsícem +8

      ''Billionaires don't become billionaires by accident''...actually they do, for any big winner in life, there are thousands of losers with the same skill, determination and knowledge.....just in wrong time, wrong place , surrounded by wrong people....

    • @AvidiaNirvana
      @AvidiaNirvana Před 29 dny +4

      ​@@theMPrints Elon Musks father owning an emerald mine in Zambia didn't help him at all. Just a random success.... Lol

    • @MechanicalMafioso
      @MechanicalMafioso Před 27 dny

      @@AvidiaNirvanaif you actually knew what happened, his father was bankrupt before he went to college. So there’s that… 🤦‍♂️

    • @foximacentauri7891
      @foximacentauri7891 Před 26 dny +3

      @@theMPrintsyou both are correct. For every billionaire there are a million other people with the exact same (or more) skill that just didn’t happen to be in the right place at the right time to become a billionaire. It’s to a large degree random (and by that I also count „being born as a billionaire’s son“ as random change).
      But at the same time, you almost never become a billionaire by being kind to everyone all the time. To become one, you generally have to be ruthless.

    • @TSorovanMHael
      @TSorovanMHael Před 24 dny +3

      They become billionaires because they were born from parents with hundreds of millions, that level of privilege recognition, and *access* and they successfully failed upwards. They are not uniquely talented, knowledgeable or gifted, they just have a lot of access and privilege and were successful at gaming the system compared to their peers. In the case of knowledge of world affairs, they are often shockingly ignorant to the point of firing people who work for them, simply for disagreeing.

  • @anonperson3972
    @anonperson3972 Před měsícem +10

    I would give credit to the idea of accelerationism, in that rather than it being a full "apocalypse" it can be applied to a specific issue. Sometimes people will only pay enough attention to a particular issue once it gets bad enough. So the faster that happens, the sooner you will actually get to deal with said issue.

  • @thepassman
    @thepassman Před měsícem +26

    Great points Joe. These two quotes regarding the wealthy always keep me grounded and my perception clear.
    1. "Honor dies where interest lies" - Kung Fu tv series with David Carradine.
    2. "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of God" - Mark 10:25, KJV.

    • @travismumby1223
      @travismumby1223 Před měsícem +1

      I like the one; Greedy people suffer thieves, and greedy thieves get caught. It seems more earthy and for the living.

    • @timmholl9238
      @timmholl9238 Před 19 dny +1

      Matthew 19:23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.
      Jeremiah 9:23 Thus saith the LORD, Let not the wise man glory in his wisdom, neither let the mighty man glory in his might, let not the rich man glory in his riches:

  • @gregorynuttall
    @gregorynuttall Před měsícem +20

    I agree. We just need to adopt a mindset of helping each other.

    • @truthaboveall7988
      @truthaboveall7988 Před 20 dny

      We can’t - we r too busy fighting our neighbors over cultural differences

  • @DarylBranson
    @DarylBranson Před 2 měsíci +843

    Assuming that billionaires are practicing accelerationism because they want a better world on the other side of the collapse is giving them way, way too much credit.

    • @Drachenfrau
      @Drachenfrau Před 2 měsíci +98

      I don't think Joe was giving them credit at all. The way I read his take is the billionaires "think" they're on the right side of history (they're not, most of them). Billionaires are just greed-heads who think they know better than the average guy 'cuz they have all the resources they need & acquiring more isn't hard for them. They've never experienced hardship, or having to scratch for the basics, so they don't understand how the poor build networks to support each other. Billionaires build networks to exploit everyone else, the poor build networks for mutual support.

    • @bud613
      @bud613 Před měsícem

      They're already super rich, have every worldly good, and control everything. What else is there that they want that's better? Besides absolute control and total domination of the commoners.

    • @williamking3301
      @williamking3301 Před měsícem +19

      Especially if it is (and it is) motivated by greed.

    • @RaspK
      @RaspK Před měsícem +55

      @@Drachenfrau This. The whole point of the video is that, primarily, this stance by billionaires is driven by their sense of superiority of intellect and grasp of how the world operates... which is patently false. So in their hubris, not only do they draw the wrong conclusions, they also generally perceive themselves as some incredible masterminds who will usher a new age, and which they are largely incapable of conceding they would mostly push for because it feeds their wants.
      It's a kind of double-faced assumed benevolence, in that they firmly believe what they would be doing would be the right thing, and yet not because it is inherently moral, or their duty, but because they are convinced would be most advantageous. More of a strategy than charity, if you will.

    • @mrcead
      @mrcead Před měsícem +35

      As usual. Billionaires see an opportunity then slap a logo on it and micromanage tf outta it saying they're innovative disruptors🙄

  • @grygaming5519
    @grygaming5519 Před měsícem +188

    When I was in college, I would often have lunch with one of my History Professors...oddly we had the same hobbies basically a love for Battletech. We often discussed exactly why humanity namely those who grew up during the Cold War have a insistent hard on for a WW3. His argument was that there's a cult of wealthy and powerful individuals who were going to use the near planetary genocide to reset society back into their image. He pointed out that the Georgia Guidestones was in fact their declaration to everyone that they were going to do exactly that. They also knew full well that no one would believe any of the conspiracy theorists who point out that there are people deliberately pushing this because they controlled media and eventually will have a hold on social media. He would often refer to this as "reject democracy, return to monarchy" approach.

    • @travismumby1223
      @travismumby1223 Před měsícem

      I'm pretty sure America is America.... Although, they will probably try anyway and end up with hierarchal religious orders again to lead the campaign for government.

    • @mishaf19
      @mishaf19 Před měsícem

      That’s interesting…
      Very much misunderstanding the Georgia guidestones though. They were closer to paranoid eco-Christian’s who thought the world was gonna blow up and didn’t want the environment to go with it.

    • @busplunger
      @busplunger Před měsícem +14

      It's okay to be gay bro

    • @aquiledelrosa
      @aquiledelrosa Před měsícem

      I mean if they remove democracy they lose their power, democracy is the power of those who can manipulate, see the last 10 elections, learn psychollogy and be at least sad to know all of those that won, was because of propaganda and manipulation, the fall of democracy is bad for billionares bc they will lose their ranch power

    • @nedisahonkey
      @nedisahonkey Před měsícem

      Wtf is battle tech. You and your professor sound like a couple of endearing weirdos but that's just straight up conspiracy speculation without providing any proof.

  • @alaskan_bigfoot9090
    @alaskan_bigfoot9090 Před měsícem +45

    Whats really crazy is that theres enough money rolling through this country to actually fix most of our personal issues and then reach out to help others after the fact, but people are honestly too selfish regardless of where they are from.
    It really feels like we live in a world where if any side has the advantage they will just step on the others to get their way, look at how many countries hate the US but think of how many of them would do so much worse if they had the ability to and the access to the same weapons and technology.

    • @shasmi93
      @shasmi93 Před měsícem

      We don’t. All those studies saying Bill Gayes could end world hunger and still have billions to spare… those are made up. People don’t know exactly how much money people have. They also don’t understand all the logistics and where every dollar would go to end world issues. They also don’t understand how big the planet is, how different cultures are, how complex all the problems are. If these human issues were easy to solve I’m sure someone in the last 300 years would have figured something out…. We have lots of problems and they are incredibly complex the closer you look.

  • @carltoeski
    @carltoeski Před měsícem +3

    Joe is proudly holding on to the most 90s sounding entertainment show intro jingle

  • @NathanSmith-rc1vl
    @NathanSmith-rc1vl Před měsícem +4

    Stumbled across this and rolled my eyes.
    I am now 5 minutes in and have paused three times.
    Twice to laugh out loud and a third to type this.
    Dude is absolutely and legitimately hilarious.
    Not too sure if it’s just me, it’s been me in the past but either way, Subscribed.

  • @stevenwilliams1805
    @stevenwilliams1805 Před měsícem +4

    I consider this primarily a scientific channel and was curious how you would tackle this topic. It was nuanced and relatively biased free, well done. 👍

  • @robsquared2
    @robsquared2 Před 2 měsíci +716

    Yeah perhaps the worst thing about accelerationism is that no matter how right you think your are, it's going to hurt a lot of people and you don't know if your "side" will come out on top in the end.

    • @NWPaul72
      @NWPaul72 Před 2 měsíci

      It seems to me that a lot of the folks who want a civil war figure they might have to fight for a month at most and they'll be home for dinner every night.

    • @bsmithhammer
      @bsmithhammer Před 2 měsíci +132

      There's also a massive amount of hubris and ego involved in Accelerationism - the firm belief that you actually know what's "right" for the rest of the world.

    • @GearZNet
      @GearZNet Před 2 měsíci +32

      ​@@bsmithhammerAll sides are guilty of this though. Everyone thinks their side is the good guys. And, I'm sure you're certain you're on the, "right side of history." 😅

    • @robsquared2
      @robsquared2 Před 2 měsíci +44

      @@GearZNet yeah it's important to see (where available) the results of the policies you think are good and see if they're actually good. And if there's no data, cautiously gather it. Progressives tend to do this and conservatives tend to ignore this.

    • @vailpcs4040
      @vailpcs4040 Před 2 měsíci +5

      It truly is Machiavellian.@@bsmithhammer

  • @zunpphire4ev170
    @zunpphire4ev170 Před měsícem +1

    You’re right man. There’s nothing we can do to stop the way things are going without an apocalyptic conflict, so big, tiring and lasting that even the ones who started the conflict loose control of it

  • @MofMCR
    @MofMCR Před měsícem +7

    Thank you for painting the bleak future we are facing. Like you I don't know how we defuse the current situation in a manner that is safe. I think the vast majority of people are in denial to the seriousness of the situation. While history may say that all crises resolve, evil empires eventually go away and divisions heal; I think that never before have we been faced with the combination, of individual, corporate and national greedy self interest, nuclear weapons, global warming and political masters who would be better placed in prison than in charge of he planet nations.

    • @strawpiglet
      @strawpiglet Před 17 dny

      I found your comment looking for the crux of the video. I agree with your outlook. The solution is honesty. When enough people become honest enough, we will change our direction. Each one of us who wants that needs to become as honest as we can. There is no other way out of this mess that we apathetically created for ourselves.

  • @karlpeterson9334
    @karlpeterson9334 Před 6 dny +2

    Greed, pride, fear of not being in control, hate of people in general.

  • @acanuck1679
    @acanuck1679 Před měsícem +4

    The theory you described sounds like anecdotally derived historical determinism (almost like an echo of Hegelian or Marxian ideology). Thanks for taking the time to work through it for the rest of us. You are a better person than I.
    Happy New Year, BTW.

  • @jonaswox
    @jonaswox Před měsícem +9

    my socialstudies teacher in high school, taught me for 3 years, and besides the obvious clues such as appearance, my teacher never gave off ANY indication of her political stance. She properly taught us discussing the subjects, without revealing her own opinions.
    Wow do we need such teachers today :D

  • @martinjpiana
    @martinjpiana Před 2 měsíci +621

    Joe’s line describing the tech billionaire Accelerationism “it’s like a belief of a secular rapture” is many levels of brilliance

    • @Joric78
      @Joric78 Před 2 měsíci +51

      "Rapture of the Nerds", has been the phrase to describe the Technological Singularity for decades.

    • @meinbherpieg4723
      @meinbherpieg4723 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@Joric78 til thanks

    • @mb-3faze
      @mb-3faze Před 2 měsíci

      This is just a rehash of the year-zero (year-zeroism) mindset. Joe didn't even mention Pol Pot - he had a damn good go at trying to reset the year to zero (by killing everyone).

    • @samr.england613
      @samr.england613 Před 2 měsíci +4

      @@Joric78 Please explain- What, exactly is, the "Technological Singularity"? I'm not that old, and this has been going on for, 'decades'?

    • @samr.england613
      @samr.england613 Před 2 měsíci +4

      What? A, 'secular rapture'? What on Earth are you talking about? (At any rate, a spiritual 'rapture' is nowhere mentioned in the Judeo-Christian Bible, despite what Hollywood would have everyone believe.) Thus, um, what the hell are you talking about?

  • @1doomphd
    @1doomphd Před měsícem +3

    I think the most frustrating and funny thing about solving the problems of humanity is for each human to focus on them selfs and grow their insight. Most people seem extremely unaware of them selfs, and focus on ideas that are materialistic. We must all soul search and learn from our mustakes, be able to notice and acknowledge our own faults with brutal honesty.
    "Break the truth of these bitches, pay you for all of these digits
    Do it cause love, don't do it for bucks, the money ain't leaving here with you
    The memory of you is real, when you go on the feelings they feel
    The stories they tell, the times that they share, with you will asure that you won't disappear" lyrics from my favorite rapper Bones.

  • @OneDayWillFlyAway
    @OneDayWillFlyAway Před měsícem +1

    Hi Scott, lost sight for some time now mostly due to the fact that we are in the 4th stage of the saeculum (or something like that) and have been into geopolitics a lot.
    Happy to be back as you have an unique and funny way of presenting the interesting topics

  • @alejandroroderick
    @alejandroroderick Před měsícem +2

    I read the Techno-Optimist Manifesto (I'll admit I didn't know it existed, or even such a thing as a "techno-optimist") and it said their enemies were not bad people but rather bad ideas, and to be honest I agreed with most of them, not all, but most

  • @johnstacy6921
    @johnstacy6921 Před měsícem +3

    Yes, WW1 was the consequential event, and WW2 was an aftershock. Also, good take on the four turnings. Simple pattern recognition followed by justification.

  • @wisefix9256
    @wisefix9256 Před měsícem +15

    I am surprised about not hearing a single mention of the Word Economic Forum (WEF) as one of the accelerants.

    • @andresmarchena1758
      @andresmarchena1758 Před 29 dny +8

      He’s a zombie 😅 you heard analogies about conservatives there’s no nuance but complex explanations for his very ridged political ideology

    • @TheAnalyst-ib9rr
      @TheAnalyst-ib9rr Před 28 dny +4

      ​@andresmarchena1758 happy that someone else sees through his hypocrisy.

    • @akuskus
      @akuskus Před 22 dny +2

      Exactly. This makes him
      basically yet another propagandist and undermines his credibility on all topics. Can't take the guy seriously.

  • @CheatOnlyDeath
    @CheatOnlyDeath Před 2 měsíci +1246

    Most destructive acts are performed by scared people who justify it as a lesser evil than one imagined or projected. They are using ends-justifies-the-means rationale, and they actually think it's a character strength to be able to take the "hard" actions that hurt and even kill people for some greater perceived good.

    • @hisham_hm
      @hisham_hm Před 2 měsíci

      The hypocrisy about it is that it's super convenient to choose to have the "character strength to take the 'hard' actions" when you're one of the 0.0000004% of humanity (yes, I did the math) whose extreme wealth will personally protect them from whatever consequences they inflict upon the planet and everyone else.

    • @Ron-rs2zl
      @Ron-rs2zl Před 2 měsíci

      Civil wars are started by those who have the most to lose. Rich slave owners in the 1860's. Today, it's old white men who are losing their power and majority.

    • @Awrethien
      @Awrethien Před 2 měsíci +250

      "The ends justify the means" Is understandable and even honorable if the person saying it is the one paying the price. It becomes twisted and evil when the one saying it is expecting others to be the ones to pay the price...

    • @LilBnu
      @LilBnu Před 2 měsíci +50

      ​@@Awrethienlord farqauud territory

    • @cp37373
      @cp37373 Před 2 měsíci +41

      @@LilBnu “he huffed, and he puffed, and he… Signed an eviction notice”

  • @carlgranados7106
    @carlgranados7106 Před měsícem +1

    "Lords of Light" was also a term used a lot by the old cartoon series called Thunder the Barbarian. Used to be my favorite. Ha

  • @DrEhrfurchtgebietend
    @DrEhrfurchtgebietend Před měsícem +2

    You should have mentioned the old saying about the four turnings
    - hard times Make strong men
    - strong Men make good times.
    - Good times Make weak men.
    - Weak men make hard times

  • @damobdaking
    @damobdaking Před 22 dny

    The song of the idea - czcams.com/video/Q_igolfkQU0/video.html

  • @AmeriMutt76
    @AmeriMutt76 Před měsícem +5

    I never read into the 4rth turning, that was interesting. It filled in what had looked like a disjointed puzzle where you have like 3 islands of the picture and nothing else, as far as some wild theories based loosly on observation that i've had... here goes.
    I've always found it interesting that the 3 Billionaires making serious inroads into O. Space were so diversified in their goals. Musk wants distant travel to a Colony. A plan that would require some other pieces, like regular commercial flights out of orbit and a local space station. Bezos wants to build a private [ostensibly Corporate] space station and Branson almost succeeded in airline like flights.
    My point is that we're allowing many of the people who have benifeted the most from our looting of the planet, to [financially] ignore the global heating crisis caused by said looting, in favor of rebuilding their walled cities. But this time, with a Vacuum moat and high priced "toll road" for protection. Or is it seperation?
    Anyway, I think that could outline at least some portion of the worlds Accelerationists 'plan'.
    I'm also sure these books are sitting in the Murdock private library.

    • @anneloving8405
      @anneloving8405 Před měsícem +1

      I don't think these billionaires realise just how far a light year is....and from what I have seen of Mars, they can have it.😂

  • @krokodilpil8335
    @krokodilpil8335 Před měsícem +1

    I spent a shit ton of money on prepping.
    Accelerate!! before my rice and beans expire.

  • @neilclay5835
    @neilclay5835 Před 2 měsíci +367

    I completely agree with you. We get to a better world through kindness. Not just to family, but to people we don't know.

    • @LegoDork
      @LegoDork Před 2 měsíci +10

      Some guy said that in a book once. It was a "Good" book, if I remember right.
      I think it was by Shel Silverstein.

    • @melodypanek448
      @melodypanek448 Před 2 měsíci +4

      I totally agree with you

    • @biswarupbhatacharjee6537
      @biswarupbhatacharjee6537 Před 2 měsíci +21

      Its naive. The problem of the current world is definitely lack of empathy and selfishness, but you being kind won't make the people vested with the most power and ability to do things more kind. It needs more than kindness. You need organization of the meek who can force the powerful to do things for the better.

    • @Libertarian_Neighbor
      @Libertarian_Neighbor Před 2 měsíci +5

      Best thing I read today. ❤

    • @immortal_shrooms6757
      @immortal_shrooms6757 Před 2 měsíci

      @@biswarupbhatacharjee6537 in combination

  • @greedyready1
    @greedyready1 Před měsícem +2

    Thanks. Not heard of the 4th turning before but it’s interesting that in the film “Dark City” turnings was the term used for resets.
    If we are going to take an historical rewind approach to the Turnings idea then technology, on the face of it, is the wild card?
    We are far more globally connected now and this can work in one of 2 ways - (1) increase the group think hive mind set up and make it easier for anyone wanting to manipulate an agenda or (2) create a forum for fresh ideas to break the repetitive pattern.
    I’m optimistic and feel there is a global spiritual awakening occurring (this time without the support of LSD) and new ideas and an overwhelming lack of desire for conflict will overcome the populous and we will find a harmonious way.

    • @nerag7459
      @nerag7459 Před měsícem +1

      The Dark City used the term 'Tuning' not 'turning'.

    • @greedyready1
      @greedyready1 Před měsícem

      @@nerag7459 r u sure. I’ll have to revisit as I was sure it was turning

  • @TringmotionCoUk
    @TringmotionCoUk Před měsícem +1

    There's a theory that the Schleswig Holstein question through to the end of WW2 was one continuous action with breaks, like the 100 years war.

  • @astroboy3002
    @astroboy3002 Před měsícem

    That Tri-reaction split screen is the funniest thing I have seen you do 😀

  • @jckbunton
    @jckbunton Před 2 dny

    Well that answers the question I've been obsessing over for several years now. Thank you so very much. The worst part of watching everything going to hell in a handbasket is not being able to figure out why. At least I have a working theory now.

  • @alexanderclaylavin
    @alexanderclaylavin Před měsícem +3

    So Howe's theory only applies to the United States? WW2 was actually not so traumatic stateside, some even credit the war effort for getting the economy out of the depression.

  • @bluetoad2668
    @bluetoad2668 Před 2 měsíci +99

    I'm past middle aged and it feels to me like we've been in a crisis ever since I could understand the news. It's got worse as news media has become more ubiquitous.

    • @slicksnewonenow
      @slicksnewonenow Před měsícem +6

      We've been in deep dookey since at least 1912...

    • @kristyp50
      @kristyp50 Před měsícem +1

      Yes

    • @mrcead
      @mrcead Před měsícem +7

      Follow the model of boomer immigrants, take your money and move to a remote countryside location for early retirement. This is literally not our fight and driving the newest EV Benz through a riot will be the next weird flex I don't want to be a part of

    • @superduper9812
      @superduper9812 Před měsícem +1

      I agree

    • @thirzel
      @thirzel Před měsícem +7

      I share this experience and realized two things. The real issues are never spoken about, those which are addressed are worsened by purpose - and resources for life such as beauty and abundance are systematically ignored.

  • @100greggy
    @100greggy Před měsícem +2

    You’re right - World War 1 was “the war to end all wars” and a lot of WW2 was definitely the ‘correction’ for WW1

  • @resistancepublishing
    @resistancepublishing Před měsícem +1

    One thing I noticed about people who write manifestos is that they always start from an emotional focal point. Their biggest grievance is hating the thing that emotionally hurt them when they were young and then they built their political, social ideas of what the world is supposed to be like around that personal hurt. It all could have been prevented if they had better well balanced upbringing from loving parents. So the answer to a lot of world ills is love and lots of hugs from an early age. Got it

  • @slangster233
    @slangster233 Před měsícem +1

    "Horseshoe theory", applies when the extreme left and the extreme right have more in common with each other than either does to the centre.

  • @DavidemetriLIC
    @DavidemetriLIC Před měsícem

    I not only subscribed I rate this video of you teaching this all the subjects and the theme of the video one of the best spoking teaching vids I have saw on political matters! Great work my guy! Would love some tips on speaking in video on specified subjects! 🥇

  • @fatherofjman2475
    @fatherofjman2475 Před měsícem

    You have amused me. Take this subscription and this like. Imma go binge your entire library now.

  • @jackh3427
    @jackh3427 Před 2 měsíci +118

    You don't need everyone to come together to fix the world. You just need to get 1/3 of the population actively engaged

    • @jerseygunz
      @jerseygunz Před 2 měsíci +15

      Unfortunately, that works the other way too haha

    • @xyaeiounn
      @xyaeiounn Před 2 měsíci

      I do believe it was said best by the US thinker ICE-T when he said "THEY CAN'T FUCK WITH US - WHEN WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME SIDE - THEY CAN'T SPLIT US UP - AND PROFIT OFF THE DIVIDE".

    • @AustinMonson2000
      @AustinMonson2000 Před 2 měsíci

      1% is all it takes. Only 1% created the Declaration of Independence and ratified it.

    • @lancelange9377
      @lancelange9377 Před měsícem +4

      As long as it's not left wing or right wing. I absolutely agree.

    • @bobbafett1849
      @bobbafett1849 Před měsícem +8

      ​@@lancelange9377lol not everyone agrees...on anything

  • @thirdghosthand8677
    @thirdghosthand8677 Před měsícem +1

    i was wondering why the heck google put this video in front of me, and i'm assuming because joe now references andressen's techno optimist manifesto. i love the crap outta that thing.

  • @dmanh5144
    @dmanh5144 Před měsícem +1

    This might be your best topic discussion yet. Well done; what is the opposite of a Luddite?

  • @JohnSmith-jm3cy
    @JohnSmith-jm3cy Před měsícem +6

    Great channel. I love hearing about politics from an intelligent and unbiased source and you do this perfectly here.

  • @mr.n7237
    @mr.n7237 Před měsícem +1

    Illuminaughti thinking it's okay to rush their demise makes perfect sense on the hubris chart.

  • @HappyChicken223
    @HappyChicken223 Před měsícem

    Dude. The commercial ad that came up on this video was all about how to survive the coming apocalypse! I just thought it was part of the show

  • @angeldelvax7219
    @angeldelvax7219 Před 2 měsíci +41

    Yeah, "accelerating" the downfall in the hopes to get to a good era sooner is the same as cutting your own body open a few days before surgery, in the hope it's already completely healed right as you get out of surgery.

    • @thelordz33
      @thelordz33 Před 2 měsíci

      This implies there is a "surgeon" who is coming to fix society. There isn’t.

    • @nickopeters
      @nickopeters Před měsícem

      Thank you for helping me understand this better.

  • @billdarby1
    @billdarby1 Před měsícem +2

    I somewhat subscribe to this cyclical view & also agree that it is coming to a head over this decade. But my reaction is to avoid/sidestep the drama by parking myself in retirement away on a remote acre that I farm for food. I've been developing this property for 11 years alone, but with a cat now. There are only 2K folks in the zipcode. It's on the wet side of Maui, so frequent showers, fertile soil and much aloha. It has almost been a bipolar experience comparing the peace here to some riot on the US mainland or in Europe. Even crowded Oahu 100 miles from me where the bulk of Hawaii's population lives seems like a lesson in urban ills.

  • @d.f.9064
    @d.f.9064 Před měsícem

    This is the phenomenon in most James Bond film plots.
    Unfortunately the bad behaviors would be the very ones carried forward, like war, environmental destruction, dictatorial government etc.
    Humans can be enlightened, but it the deevolutionary habits that are the constant.

  • @philodox7599
    @philodox7599 Před měsícem +2

    I personally think we need to spend more time away from electronic devices, more time talking to each other and much less time watching the news. On the positive side we should try to stop labs from creating diseases, people passing laws in the background that give the powerful all the power, and work on the mental health issues.

    • @davidtiessen7713
      @davidtiessen7713 Před měsícem

      bingo its time to unplug and work on issues at the local level. Decentralize the power structure and empower ourselves at the community level.

  • @DekRavenmane
    @DekRavenmane Před měsícem +16

    This is what happen when an empire declines. It does not happen overnight, it happens over a matter of generations of making bad decisions which leads to even more bad decisions which grows even worse when competition arrives.

  • @ColinMacKenzieRobots
    @ColinMacKenzieRobots Před měsícem +1

    Agreed @19:20. I think it's going to get worse before it gets better and I'm just as saddened as you are by it. Take care

  • @BrightRevolution.
    @BrightRevolution. Před 2 měsíci +493

    “Never be deceived that the rich will allow you to vote away their wealth.” -Lucy Parsons

    • @CopKiller88
      @CopKiller88 Před 2 měsíci

      That’s just common sense , people rarely like being robbed or having their stuff taken from them for no reason other than “I want it”

    • @spocko2181
      @spocko2181 Před 2 měsíci +7

      You take away every dime the billionaires have and you could run the American government for maybe 8 months. Then what?

    • @qwertpoo1
      @qwertpoo1 Před 2 měsíci +6

      No one wants to take other peoples money except for you sweetheart.

    • @Ron-rs2zl
      @Ron-rs2zl Před 2 měsíci

      The middle class made the billionaires ​@@spocko2181

    • @classreductionist
      @classreductionist Před 2 měsíci

      We're seeing that right now in the USA. Elections are rigged, the Corporate media is just propaganda, Elites are pushing more and more censorship. The internet totally disrupted their control over us and they are desperately trying to reassert it. If they aren't successful...the gloves will come off to reveal the Iron Fists that were always underneath.

  • @naknampucha5236
    @naknampucha5236 Před měsícem +1

    This is kinda perfect. I'm currently studying Astrology and this year 2024 is transition of Pluto unto Aquarius. The last time Pluto was on Aquarius was the years before Pluto as a planet was even discovered as a planet and roughly within the Industrial Revolution. Aquarius as a sign itself is the unpredictable sign even though it's the humanetarian aspects of Astrology,. it represents progress and unknown future. It also encapsulate under the sign of technological advancement just as how wars and industrial revolution have brought the biggest change towards society. Most people forget that most of the modern high tech items we have like Satellites, phones, medicines and drugs were all product of War. Even drones are ideas of spy planes. One thing for sure, for the next 15 years,. there's gonna have a big change that mankind will never seen before.

  • @DrEhrfurchtgebietend
    @DrEhrfurchtgebietend Před měsícem +1

    The important thing to realize is that the goals of the party at Davos is very different than the average person

  • @MicahBratt
    @MicahBratt Před měsícem

    But now that we have the internet hopefully the next generation can learn from the past mistakes by watching videos like this and we can finally break out of the doom loop. If we can get past this level it seems like there's a pretty abundant and bright future ahead.

  • @RealWorldGames
    @RealWorldGames Před měsícem +2

    The better world is always the one in which the one describing the world gets what they want. What others want is irrelevant in their " better world"

  • @randydelgado4548
    @randydelgado4548 Před měsícem +1

    I believe the only way for our entire population can agree and accomplish anything in unity together is if our entire population or entire population believed the entire population or citizens within a entire nation knew everyone was going to die tomorrow.
    This is when our entire population would stand together in agreement to stop that from happening.

  • @eric2500
    @eric2500 Před měsícem +459

    Joe is right about the limits of this historical pattern, take it far enough into the past and it falls apart, because all social and cultural and technological facts of life are far too different from ours.
    But there is a problem with extending this into the future, too, and we are experiencing it right here on YT and other social media - *social media itself has fractured the human experience so much that we are no longer experiencing the world as other members of our generation do, even if they live next door!*

    • @glenndavis4452
      @glenndavis4452 Před měsícem +8

      Very true. The algorithms will feed you only what you want to hear. Pretty much.

    • @EdgarRoock
      @EdgarRoock Před měsícem +12

      But extreme individualism (your fracturedness) is the herald of the crisis step according to the system (9:38). How does that not fit in?

    • @Commonsenseisnotcommon8
      @Commonsenseisnotcommon8 Před měsícem +12

      I agree 💯, just simple things like everyone tuning in to NBC on Thursday nights and watching, Friends and such. Talking about it with friends and coworkers the next day. Now with all the streaming services I haven’t seen 90% of stuff people are talking about. We’re not even getting the same news in our feeds. Which is why as American I watch the multiple foreign news reports to see what’s really going on in my own country!

    • @vijayanchomatil8413
      @vijayanchomatil8413 Před měsícem

      It is pseudo science. WW1 was far more important and pervasive than ww2 was. WW2 was only an attempt by the germans to fight ww1 with better terms. WW1 changed the world. WW2, the world was already changed but the changes were given deeper perspective.

    • @WaterproofSoap
      @WaterproofSoap Před měsícem +2

      This is a salient point to consider and you are wise to make mention of it.

  • @1nONLY_DRock
    @1nONLY_DRock Před měsícem

    Ayn Rand advocated it in her Objectivism philosophy. Atlas Shrugged is pretty much showed examples of it being done. The difference is the billionaires and influential people essentially peaced out and stopped getting involved, building wealth, etc. And so many of its followers advocate it too. It also tends to appeal itself to the rich.

  • @donnamarielandry1649
    @donnamarielandry1649 Před měsícem

    This is my first time watching a video of yours. Most interesting I had to listen more than once. I feel terrorized by what is happening to our country and the world. I will check out your other videos. Thank you!

  • @estudiordl
    @estudiordl Před měsícem

    I don't know if Asimov got inspired by any of this, but as your video progressed, I recall more and more the Fundation series, where a scientists (psyco-historian was the title I think) kind of predicted the fall of the Galactic Empire and took some steps to "reduce" the dark ages from 10k year to a milenia. Maybe is nothing related, but my mind go there anyway... I didn't knew any of this topic, nice video btw 😄

  • @user-jh5dq9vc1v
    @user-jh5dq9vc1v Před měsícem +1

    There is certainly something in human psyche that works in such direction. I never heard about that "fourth turning" before, but it seems plausible.

  • @user-so7wy1zb2s
    @user-so7wy1zb2s Před 6 dny +1

    Two comments: 1) I’d agree that individuals who have access to a greater means of influence can also have a greater propensity to driving a society towards a particular goal, but given the uncertainty inherent in future outcomes (poor predictive models) and how complex systems can be affected by seemingly minuscule events, I think it’s safer to say resourceful individuals are attempting to bring about an outcome that’s consistent with their goals and desires than pushing a system towards collapse to bring about a transformation that improves the system as a whole. 2) as for seeing a cyclic pattern in society that crosses generations, I agree it’s more a pseudoscience of seeing patterns in data that’s not statistically or historically present than a science that has evaluated the whole of human history and uncovered a genuine pattern.

  • @WilliamHaisch
    @WilliamHaisch Před 2 měsíci +51

    This reminds me of the Futurism art movement in the years before World War I. They praised action, speed, violence, progress. They believed that war was the way technology and society advances. See: Gino Severini “Armored Train In Action”, “Visual Synthesis of the Idea: War”, “Red Cross Train Passing a Village”. After seeing the horrors of war, the Futurists no longer believed that war was beneficial and the movement died. My hope is these misguided individuals can learn from history and touch grass before it is too late. 😢

    • @PCLHH
      @PCLHH Před 2 měsíci +5

      Its almost like humans refuse to learn from their ancestors

    • @allthingsunimportant
      @allthingsunimportant Před 2 měsíci +1

      They likely won’t. Eventually all of us need to ask ourselves if we’re going to allow this to play out or take these people out of the game.

    • @cxmb
      @cxmb Před 2 měsíci +1

      See, the flaw in this is thay you wish they would LEARN something.
      But we live in a world in which everyone has the distorted idea that we are rigth, and our opinions are always "spot on" , nothing to be corrected.
      There's very little motivation (if any) from someone who thinks they are rigth all the time to learn anything at all.

    • @subcitizen2012
      @subcitizen2012 Před 2 měsíci

      And if not, just in case, let's make sure to prepare to make them eat grass.

  • @theco-conspiriters
    @theco-conspiriters Před měsícem +1

    As a native American we have a similar story.. it’s not called that and the time lines are different but the on comeing and out come are the same….. change is happening

  • @kennyoffhenny
    @kennyoffhenny Před měsícem

    Great video, you could’ve went a little deeper with some of the talking points but you got the basics down pretty good.

  • @relaxingchannel604
    @relaxingchannel604 Před měsícem +1

    So it's about conflicts that affected nation or nations locally, but right now we live more globally.

  • @YM-zf8mt
    @YM-zf8mt Před měsícem

    19:20
    that's what i'm thinking as well there is no guarantee that whatever actions we take will lead to positive change in society especialy since most of us even if in group (society is divided so that's impossible either way) we wouldn't be powerful enough to overthrow the system in place
    the only thing left to do is to make sure the people around you are taken care of and are okayish as much as possible (my take is that i take care solely of the people i know of and who have acquired some form of trust from me)

  • @IZn0g0uDatAll
    @IZn0g0uDatAll Před měsícem

    The way those people butcher Deleuze’s work is hillarious. Deterritorialization has nothing to do with accelerationism.

  • @wxmanthunder
    @wxmanthunder Před 2 měsíci +53

    I'm glad you addressed the fact that WW1 was "glossed over" because I spent a good 3-4 minutes hollering, "But what about World War 1?!?" at you. 🤣

    • @Oi....
      @Oi.... Před 2 měsíci +7

      WW2 was just WW1 part 2.

    • @wxmanthunder
      @wxmanthunder Před 2 měsíci +4

      Well, then that pretty much blows their theory out of the water since it happened only about 50 years after the start of one of the "cycles".

    • @derek.avincent5822
      @derek.avincent5822 Před 2 měsíci

      I did the exact same thing!!!!

    • @macrc2129
      @macrc2129 Před měsícem +1

      @@Oi.... After studying both wars my entire adult life. I would have to say WW2 is a continuation of The Great War. Also, I want to add because some people don't seem to realize this, way more actual soldiers died in WWI than in II, but 2 had massive civilian loss.

    • @macrc2129
      @macrc2129 Před měsícem +1

      @@wxmanthunder I don't think The American Civil fits the theory very well honestly.

  • @lexluthor9509
    @lexluthor9509 Před měsícem

    Founding fathers never anticipated the internet and underestimated how easily the citizens could be fooled.

  • @jubmelahtes
    @jubmelahtes Před měsícem +1

    If this theory is that time is in cycles that actually makes sense historically, the norse among other older civilizations believed that ti.e wasnt linear but cycliar so eventually ragnarok would come and after ragnarok it all begain a new the cycle had begun anew

  • @Castaway_glass
    @Castaway_glass Před měsícem +1

    I think the generational theory doesn’t really skip over ww1 but more link the two wars into two halves of the same crisis period

  • @luckyfriday80
    @luckyfriday80 Před měsícem

    Thank you for your insights and research!

  • @huntera123
    @huntera123 Před měsícem

    Vernor Vinge wrote about this in Across Real Time. Athens lived through this under their corrupt oligarchs. It gets rougher before it gets better.

  • @nickbarton6022
    @nickbarton6022 Před 2 měsíci +197

    After nearly six decades on this rock, I tend to trust my ability to spot horseshit these days. But…what seems to be a source of relentless disappointment for me though, is the increasing desperation to grab hold of what surely can be seen as suspiciously simple answers to the obviously difficult and complex problems that we face as a society. This seems to happen with monotonous regularity and without any regard to how poorly thought out they are or how little intellectual or academic rigour has been applied to them. And that seems to fit the “Four Corners” narrative all too well.

    • @IronClawGaming
      @IronClawGaming Před 2 měsíci +27

      Agreed. Complicated problems require equally complicated solutions. And guess what? Those solutions won't ever fully solve the problems they are addressing.

    • @janthran
      @janthran Před 2 měsíci

      @@IronClawGaming a lot of the problems and solutions are a lot simpler than people make them look, though. like, there are people who just hate minorities; the solution is for them to fucking get over it. if that happened everything else would follow

    • @marksainsbury2422
      @marksainsbury2422 Před 2 měsíci +31

      I think it's the "suspiciously simple answers to the obviously difficult and complex problems" bit that stood out for me. The first inconsistency that jumped out at me regarding the "Four Turnings" model is that WW II is seen as a Crisis turning, but somehow WW I, a mere 25years prior appears to be glossed over in the "80 year cycle" - Edit: Hah! I then kept watching and Joe calls this out too! Doh!

    • @AndreaCrisp
      @AndreaCrisp Před 2 měsíci +14

      I totally agree. Everyone wants everything to be simple and thus they jump on the bandwagon for simple explanations that don't make sense when looked at with an educated and critical eye. Unfortunately, the American school system is not designed to create critical thinkers. It's purpose is to create good little worker bees and consumers. That goal has been met and we are reaping the rewards of what we have sown. I am so glad that my father isn't here to witness what is happening...

    • @caralho5237
      @caralho5237 Před 2 měsíci +13

      Academic approval is quickly losing its importance. Reseach and universities are things that can be easily bought.

  • @elonmust2018
    @elonmust2018 Před měsícem +1

    I think it is called market manipulation. If they can crash something, that is predictable if they know what they crash before everyone else does. They can know what industies to buy or sell based on their accelerated destruction. That helps fund their operation and gets them to their ultimate goal of eveyone owning nothing and being happy.

  • @joevandorpe1488
    @joevandorpe1488 Před měsícem

    Very intelligent synopsis. Seemingly both current regimes in Washington and Ottawa are seemingly poisoned by narrow minded, selfish, arrogant federal politicians bent on power for the sake of centralist power. Certainly guided by powerful personages hiding in the dark wings at Davos. That's about at divisive as you can get without the strong staying hand of democracy & humanism. Plus respect for provincial & state laws.
    Information is truly powerful.
    Thank you for this thoughful discussion.

  • @garyswift9347
    @garyswift9347 Před měsícem

    e/acc. I've been hearing a ton about this lately. Most of the time, when I talk to common people about new solutions to current problems, they are against them, no matter what it is. I find this curious.

  • @DreamWeaverSoul
    @DreamWeaverSoul Před měsícem +47

    These so called billionaires do realize that they are the cause by holding back high tech & free clean energy and did not allow humanity to thrive. Did not know that money made you smarter or above others. These beliefs & thoughts point to sick minds and they lose the essence of divinity. They actually make me laugh with their ideas of ignorance that are only meant to self-destruct & implode within their own god complex. Really good podcast, thank you Joe Scott.

  • @MaryAnnRegaladoVasquez
    @MaryAnnRegaladoVasquez Před měsícem

    thank God you have finally touched on a subject that has been on my mind for a long time. When will the government or those in charge release free energy to the masses? They will never allow us to have anything for free. And that is sad. And infuriating.

  • @kenban8533
    @kenban8533 Před měsícem +222

    "They looked for evidence that fit their theory. But they kinda left out any evidence that didn't fit the model." Nailed it - not just for accelerationism, but across the social sciences. I switched majors from history to international relations, and was absolutely gobsmacked by the incredibly selective use of historical fact that social sciences ranging from sociology to economics routinely engage in, while ignoring obvious, better alternative explanations that are readily available, mostly because it would ruin their tidy theoretical structure.

    • @Neion8
      @Neion8 Před měsícem +43

      The problem I find with all professional know-it-alls, is that the basis for all learning is to first admit there are things you either don't know or could be wrong about. Without this mindset you blind yourself to new information. The moment an academic takes a professional stance and becomes known as a proponent of an ideology, they make it very difficult to admit that they're falible (as admission of mistakes is a loss of credibility); which makes it very difficult for them to learn and improve and so they become a conceptual snapshot rather than a learning human being with an evolving theory. Their job becomes shaping data around their theory, rather than shaping their theory around the data.
      It's no wonder most of their followers mimic that behaviour - ignoring/denying any and all evidence that doesn't fit their world view and building echo chambers to make them feel like their beliefs are a self-evident truth and they are intellectually/morally superior for noticing it. It's like academic cultism. Fit this arrogance with an 'ends justify the means' mindset and you have a recipe for disaster.

    • @arcguardian
      @arcguardian Před měsícem +8

      Lol like everyone else with power does.
      It's a human thing, not a rich ppl thing.

    • @7sons484
      @7sons484 Před měsícem

      Occam's Razor was abandoned many years ago. It challenges social, cultural and dare i say, scientific beliefs required to push political and economic agendas and no political party is immune to it. Nonsense and irrationality rule. The divide between people begins at the top of the hierarchical pyramid of power, if you will. Be careful to know where your information comes from. It might just be an enemy you never knew existed.

    • @Rays_Bad_Decisions
      @Rays_Bad_Decisions Před měsícem +8

      Your talking about the basis of liberalism. Ignore anything that disprove your beliefs 😂😂😂

    • @TheReferrer72
      @TheReferrer72 Před měsícem +2

      @@Neion8 I don't think you understand, sticking to a theory/ideology is a feature not a bug.
      You exhaust your theory, before changing your mind in most fields.

  • @PrudenceK
    @PrudenceK Před měsícem

    😂 you mentioned the zodiac just as i was thinking about the correlations to the historical patterns mentioned in "the passion of the western mind" by richard tarnas. Very interesting topic ty.

  • @captainthunderbolt7541
    @captainthunderbolt7541 Před měsícem

    *The Four Turnings seem to map pretty well to the common meme:* Hard times create strong men -> Strong men create good times -> Good times creates weak men -> Weak men create hard times.

  • @bigz4302
    @bigz4302 Před měsícem +1

    I mean, when focusing on the US WW1 is really just a footnote, but for Europe, the world wars could be seen as one long period.
    Collapse of the old monarchies, the internal struggle for power than the external.
    Than the uneasy 80 year peace, followed by the current struggle we're in starting in 1991

  • @louisesumrell6331
    @louisesumrell6331 Před měsícem

    All I can do is survive, be happy, and help others...one moment at a time.Peace Love Kindness Respect, the more you give the more you get. Start with yourself because you deserve it. 🙏💜🙏💖🙏🌄

  • @steventcunliffe
    @steventcunliffe Před měsícem

    Informative video thank you for this.

  • @synapse71
    @synapse71 Před měsícem +428

    Joe said, "It's hard to deny that were at some kind of crises point here." It's taken me getting really old to figure this out: It always looks like that. I know it's hard to believe, and I had to see it for myself. In 1963, for 3 days, the world thought we were on the brink of nuclear annihilation and held its breath (people were building underground bunkers in ordinary suburbs); the news was showing brave young men in live combat and actually getting killed every night at dinnertime (horrifying Vietnam); campus and convention riots; homegrown terrorist groups putting bombs in university buildings, government buildings, and under police cars, which killed people; young people shot on campus by National Guard troops; in the 70s, numerous airplane hijackings, murder on the tarmac; a president resigns because of corruption (1st time ever); disclosures of the military routinely falsifying reports of progress in Vietnam, which prolonged the war; more disclosures of secret military bombing that killed millions; this was followed by the collapse of trust in institutions; then another economic crises and everyone was in line to get gas; American hostages taken in Iran, more superpower threats of war; another stock market/real estate collapse in the 80s; AIDS epidemic; 9/11, two wars in the Middle East; the war against terrorism; the resurgence of Russia and then the rise of China; COVID ... I've skipped A LOT. The feeling that we are in crises was felt then, by almost everyone, in a never ending cycle of terrible problems, punctuated with a few short years of (very relative) tranquility. Then it would always start all over again. The takeway - DON'T DESPAIR! Don't fall into gloom! This is life. Stay informed and concerned, but don't lose your chances for happiness anytime you can grab some. Read some history and it will put you more at ease. It goes all the way back to ancient times, the earliest recorded history, and IT'S NEVER STOPPED. Courage is the determined effort to affirm life, despite everything. There will always be the beauty and the horror.

    • @michaelarsenault7385
      @michaelarsenault7385 Před měsícem +79

      We didn’t start the fire, it was always burning since the world’s been turning.

    • @lukasbauer8783
      @lukasbauer8783 Před měsícem

      The danger of annihilation was very real then and it did not happen because sane people on both sides of the cold war worked incredibly hard to prevent the worst.
      There is no mechanism that prevents it on autopilot.
      There were a lot of factors in place then that no longer exist.
      Various international mechanisms that prevented dangerous escalations for decades after the Cuban Crisis were deliberately demolished.
      There is and can be no guarantee that we will weather future storms just because we survived them in the past.
      Especially not if our only plan is to hope or confidently believe that we will surely be lucky.

    • @karenmiely7219
      @karenmiely7219 Před měsícem +28

      Thank you for that reminder. I've lived through all those events too and lived another day. I guess this time it's the cacophony of social media that makes it seem really apocryphal .

    • @shraka
      @shraka Před měsícem +29

      I think you're seriously mixing up the threat each of these issues actually pose to people. The Turkey / Cuba missile crisis was a massive global threat, as is the ongoing climate collapse.

    • @annettezaleski
      @annettezaleski Před měsícem

      Not if we get our democracy taken away and we are left with an authoritarian regime that's extremely hard to get out of once a majority of the nation votes for it...and EVERYONE in America WILL want to get out of living under a king, not only for the rest of our lives but many generations afterwards! How do you explain that to your children that you voted to remove their freedoms

  • @travismumby1223
    @travismumby1223 Před měsícem

    Yelp, Joe. Plagiarism is something that fits into this model as I learned language by mimicking language taught to me, but as I get older and use language successfully, I find myself unable to avoid plagiarism. In using logic to solve my problems, I stumble onto logic that was used to solve these problems before. This supports what you were pod casting about in a generational sense of I’m 45 for few more days. Time has this fundamental function identified as change, my media’s hack job has been on a kick about multiverses and repetitious realities layering over each other to identify the next Elvis representative of the Askew records. Thanks for being about 45 with me. Studies will show we are going to agree on most generational quarks. We’re so lucky, the people in charge of this removed my jury trial system so someone with more gusto will go to war over it. While I hum… What? I'm confused about how our society works without a jury trial system. Hum...

  • @ctalina
    @ctalina Před měsícem

    Thank you for putting the text on screen in the right place for zoomed to fill

  • @timlandsberg940
    @timlandsberg940 Před měsícem +1

    Our current path is only unsustainable because of the people who run and dictate it. The exact same people who want it to collapse