Why Some Billionaires Are Actively Trying To Destroy The World
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This is an ideology gaining in popularity amongst tech billionaires that the world is inevitably heading toward a collapse, and that instead of trying to prevent that collapse, we should rip off the band aid as fast as possible so we can get to the better world on the other side. While there’s a cold logic to it, it’s a dangerous philosophy that ignores the incalculable human suffering that such a collapse would create.
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0:00 - Intro
1:31 - What is Accelerationism?
3:40 - Origins
7:12 - The Four Turnings
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I think we’re just dealing with greedy psychopaths justifying their unjustifiable bad behavior.
I mean my dear that’s really bad….can you tell me more about this🙏
Where does that even come from @@mentat1341
@@mentat1341not money but greed. Even if we had barter economy greedy a*holes would still find a way to acumulate whealth and/or power.
Look at shit shows in history and root cause always goes back to greed (when its not natural disaster).
It can be dresed up as varius reasons, excuses, delusions but it always goes back to "more than I have now".
I’ll throw the first stone if you guys follow up 😂😂😭
To be fair, that is often misinterpreted. Money isn't really the root of all evil. The LOVE of money is the root of all evil. Greed. And you've got to admit, some positively nasty things have been one in the name of greed. By the church as well, as you mentioned. Irony. @@mentat1341
Assuming that billionaires are practicing accelerationism because they want a better world on the other side of the collapse is giving them way, way too much credit.
I don't think Joe was giving them credit at all. The way I read his take is the billionaires "think" they're on the right side of history (they're not, most of them). Billionaires are just greed-heads who think they know better than the average guy 'cuz they have all the resources they need & acquiring more isn't hard for them. They've never experienced hardship, or having to scratch for the basics, so they don't understand how the poor build networks to support each other. Billionaires build networks to exploit everyone else, the poor build networks for mutual support.
They're already super rich, have every worldly good, and control everything. What else is there that they want that's better? Besides absolute control and total domination of the commoners.
Especially if it is (and it is) motivated by greed.
@@DrachenGothik666 This. The whole point of the video is that, primarily, this stance by billionaires is driven by their sense of superiority of intellect and grasp of how the world operates... which is patently false. So in their hubris, not only do they draw the wrong conclusions, they also generally perceive themselves as some incredible masterminds who will usher a new age, and which they are largely incapable of conceding they would mostly push for because it feeds their wants.
It's a kind of double-faced assumed benevolence, in that they firmly believe what they would be doing would be the right thing, and yet not because it is inherently moral, or their duty, but because they are convinced would be most advantageous. More of a strategy than charity, if you will.
As usual. Billionaires see an opportunity then slap a logo on it and micromanage tf outta it saying they're innovative disruptors🙄
A lot of people here in the comments saying "we just need to take care of each other and help those who need it" Totally agree! Problem is: the current system does the opposite, rewarding the most ruthless and selfish of us.
Working within your community is a great way to work outside the system to help those in need. I just got started on this at my college and seeing how your actions can help people really helps in dealing with some of the existential dread
Lmfao what?
true
Indeed, people are groomed into valuing reaching wealth and accumulating possessions yet not necessarily reaching blitheness, instead of reaching balance and contentment even with very little in social status or worldly goods. I live frugally in a healthy mind & fit body and have met many desolate wealthy folks (who may even secretly be envying my solace).
Greed, pride, fear of not being in control, hate of people in general.
exactly, this is the mind of first worlders who think 'billionaires want to destroy us'. When in reality this is just a result of globalisation. The world will continue to progress, you guys can stop if you want
we have a system that rewards greedy narcissists. it was setup this way by people that were that way and is solely setup to benefit themselves. and people klike that is what we get in consequence, yes. they'd rather burn the world than give up anything without getting something in return that they deem valuable.
former essential sources of news now devoted to anything goes political campaigning. return to the fairness doctrine would fix
the real reason is to die on top...... not to survive as a species.......maybe cause they want to brag in the after life or something
I went through a doomer phase coming out of high school in 2008 and as a result earned a bachelors degree in emergency management because I feared for what the future would be like. Now I'm actually a lot more comfortable with where the world is going, despite the intensity of the last decade and change. The most important thing I recommend to people with anxieties over the future is to look locally at what you have at your disposal. Find ways you can feed yourself and things you can do to help others within the smallest radius possible and use that as your weighted blanket. The world's massive and the internet makes it feel like it's all at your doorstep and here's every tragedy everywhere happening all at once for you to watch. What is going to matter if anything actually does go critically wrong is what is literally at your doorstep so getting familiar with that is the best way to prepare and ground yourself.
Low key inspirational, wishing you the best
That is my strategy too.
Wise advice. There's a lot of doomers out there and they need some help.
@@TrekStar11 Video here is incomplete without its
sibling: "Are Rich People Ok??' by Cody
Sound advice. Thank you.
I think that we just have some absurdly wealthy people closing in on death suddenly aware they can’t take all of it with them and they are envious of the younger people so they want to break all the toys before they go.
My true disappointment comes from all those willing to assist them.
They want to accelerate towards immortality- the rest of us be damned
I’ve noticed that on my own even though also 1/4 of those I know disagree with me and people like you, even kids since childhood disagree with my honest discovery of these horrid truths and even my dad denial of my views of this and on bad terms for a decade now, and why I left my birth family fir good, and I can’t believe Elon musk wasn’t whom I thought he was and no better then trump in a way and maybe might instead have faith in trumps and elons kid’s instead, they could be instruments to their fall, who knows till either of us meets them in person
@@promptcraftand that just wrong even though making robots fir spaces and unexpected AI supremacists like sky net
accelerationism, so far in video proves its another recipe for disaster, just like communism and stuff!!
Absolutely!!! Crazy mofos.
Brings to mind the old saying that the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
I suspect there are quite a few that don't even have good intentions.
The only decent courses of action, if one believes they've predicted disaster, are the a) try to prevent or at least minimize it, and b) try to help people get through it.
Anything else is evil.
^ This.
We are creating a new world and you have no place in it!
Joe’s line describing the tech billionaire Accelerationism “it’s like a belief of a secular rapture” is many levels of brilliance
"Rapture of the Nerds", has been the phrase to describe the Technological Singularity for decades.
@@Joric78 til thanks
This is just a rehash of the year-zero (year-zeroism) mindset. Joe didn't even mention Pol Pot - he had a damn good go at trying to reset the year to zero (by killing everyone).
@@Joric78 Please explain- What, exactly is, the "Technological Singularity"? I'm not that old, and this has been going on for, 'decades'?
What? A, 'secular rapture'? What on Earth are you talking about? (At any rate, a spiritual 'rapture' is nowhere mentioned in the Judeo-Christian Bible, despite what Hollywood would have everyone believe.) Thus, um, what the hell are you talking about?
Yeah perhaps the worst thing about accelerationism is that no matter how right you think your are, it's going to hurt a lot of people and you don't know if your "side" will come out on top in the end.
It seems to me that a lot of the folks who want a civil war figure they might have to fight for a month at most and they'll be home for dinner every night.
There's also a massive amount of hubris and ego involved in Accelerationism - the firm belief that you actually know what's "right" for the rest of the world.
@@bsmithhammerAll sides are guilty of this though. Everyone thinks their side is the good guys. And, I'm sure you're certain you're on the, "right side of history." 😅
@@GearZNet yeah it's important to see (where available) the results of the policies you think are good and see if they're actually good. And if there's no data, cautiously gather it. Progressives tend to do this and conservatives tend to ignore this.
It truly is Machiavellian.@@bsmithhammer
Accelerationism is an incredibly stupid idea. When systems break down, it's not like there's a "Game over" screen and the slate is wiped clean and everything somehow returns to a basic start over state. We just end up having to still deal with the same problems. The problems are not going away magically. The problems are intrinsic to humans and living on Earth.
Also, intentionally causing massive amounts of suffering in the near future, because you think that will prevent some suffering in the future just comes across as evil to me.
Yes! Destroying the system does not destroy our problems. We just end up with no shared means of addressing those problems!
@@scottsanford1451 The question is always, whose problems that are and whose lifes are getting worse.
The techbros speculate to profite from the collapse.
Talk about praise of "disruption" ...
Not if you can build a better society on top of it. If our elitist society would collapse and people didn't allow the government of the rich to form again, then we would come out much better from the collapse.
@@josecipriano3048 Another "government of the rich" with different people would form.
I read a quote somewhere I can't remember. That discribed the period between WW1 and WW2 as "not the sound of peace but the sound of reloading" iv always liked that quote.
That seems to rhyme eerily well with the years to come. Russia and China are currently the most likely to reload.
Most destructive acts are performed by scared people who justify it as a lesser evil than one imagined or projected. They are using ends-justifies-the-means rationale, and they actually think it's a character strength to be able to take the "hard" actions that hurt and even kill people for some greater perceived good.
The hypocrisy about it is that it's super convenient to choose to have the "character strength to take the 'hard' actions" when you're one of the 0.0000004% of humanity (yes, I did the math) whose extreme wealth will personally protect them from whatever consequences they inflict upon the planet and everyone else.
Civil wars are started by those who have the most to lose. Rich slave owners in the 1860's. Today, it's old white men who are losing their power and majority.
"The ends justify the means" Is understandable and even honorable if the person saying it is the one paying the price. It becomes twisted and evil when the one saying it is expecting others to be the ones to pay the price...
@@Awrethienlord farqauud territory
@@LilBnu “he huffed, and he puffed, and he… Signed an eviction notice”
You don't need everyone to come together to fix the world. You just need to get 1/3 of the population actively engaged
Unfortunately, that works the other way too haha
I do believe it was said best by the US thinker ICE-T when he said "THEY CAN'T FUCK WITH US - WHEN WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME SIDE - THEY CAN'T SPLIT US UP - AND PROFIT OFF THE DIVIDE".
1% is all it takes. Only 1% created the Declaration of Independence and ratified it.
As long as it's not left wing or right wing. I absolutely agree.
@@lancelange9377lol not everyone agrees...on anything
Accelerationism is just going to replace countries with corporate territories.
Snow Crash!
That's the idea I suppose. Corporations have just about taken over everything now.
Never heard anyone sum up the Manson family so well and so concisely, nice.
I agree with your final statement. Taking care of each other will carry us through to the best possible life a lot more effectively than destruction, jealousy and greed.
“Never be deceived that the rich will allow you to vote away their wealth.” -Lucy Parsons
That’s just common sense , people rarely like being robbed or having their stuff taken from them for no reason other than “I want it”
You take away every dime the billionaires have and you could run the American government for maybe 8 months. Then what?
No one wants to take other peoples money except for you sweetheart.
The middle class made the billionaires @@spocko2181
We're seeing that right now in the USA. Elections are rigged, the Corporate media is just propaganda, Elites are pushing more and more censorship. The internet totally disrupted their control over us and they are desperately trying to reassert it. If they aren't successful...the gloves will come off to reveal the Iron Fists that were always underneath.
The thing that’s causing me the most anxiety right now is the fact accelerationists exist and some of them are extremely powerful billionaires who can use their power to destroy the world and not suffer from it.
Don’t worry. Everything always works out. I don’t know how, but I’m certain of it. After nearly 5 years in combat, I’ve seen some amazing things. Example, guy takes 2 massive rounds in the head and live out a wonderful and fulfilling life. And I’ve seen a person get frostbite on his hand and die from infection. Maybe a bad example, but I think they will fail. Hope I didn’t offend anyone. Have a great day… and life!
What becomes of them billionaires after they destroy the world?
@@ankhpom9296Well, I read that Zuckerberg is building himself an underground bunker; probably others are doing the same, thinking they'll be fine when they emerge, to find the societies they lived off of are gone. And others will live in comfort for as long as their stockpiles last, then find themselves remembering the lyrics to "Once in a Lifetime", by Talking Heads.
@@ankhpom9296 nothing. this is all lunatic thinking by people who are too comfortable in their lives. The world needs a lot of progress, we haven't even solved starvation because of supply chain issues and these people out here thinking about niche dangers of accelerationism
Bill Gates
George Soros
Mark Zuckerberg
"Arabella" book by Scott Walter
Please read it.
One thing I noticed about people who write manifestos is that they always start from an emotional focal point. Their biggest grievance is hating the thing that emotionally hurt them when they were young and then they built their political, social ideas of what the world is supposed to be like around that personal hurt. It all could have been prevented if they had better well balanced upbringing from loving parents. So the answer to a lot of world ills is love and lots of hugs from an early age. Got it
Damn, that's a good point haha
@@orchdork775 yea. There’s a pattern to their behavior.
Manifestos aren't necessarily bad, but I think the _modern_ idea of a manifesto is tied up with terrorism and some people have come to write them as functional suicide notes. Especially if their whole-ass praxis is propaganda of the deed by massacring people at a shopping mall or a grocery store, hoping for more to follow their example.
Yes. All someone has to do is do some research and you can find a pattern developing towards the wrong direction
"If only young Adolf had been accepted to art school."
I'm glad you addressed the fact that WW1 was "glossed over" because I spent a good 3-4 minutes hollering, "But what about World War 1?!?" at you. 🤣
WW2 was just WW1 part 2.
Well, then that pretty much blows their theory out of the water since it happened only about 50 years after the start of one of the "cycles".
I did the exact same thing!!!!
@@Oi.... After studying both wars my entire adult life. I would have to say WW2 is a continuation of The Great War. Also, I want to add because some people don't seem to realize this, way more actual soldiers died in WWI than in II, but 2 had massive civilian loss.
@@wxmanthunder I don't think The American Civil fits the theory very well honestly.
Man, I live in Russia and all I want is for USA people, Israel people, Iran, Rússia Paquistán, etc. and everyone on this planet to live in peace and prosperity. So God bless us all!
I want Israel to Relocate to Texas or someplace,
You forgot your neighbour Ukraine. I hear they have been invaded.
I dig your energy, Igor. Clearly more of it is needed. Peace and prosperity to you as well.
Cool, so does the rest of the world that isn't a power-mad individual. But it's not going to happen as Komrades.
Nice. But please tell Vlad to leave Ukraine alone.
Well that answers the question I've been obsessing over for several years now. Thank you so very much. The worst part of watching everything going to hell in a handbasket is not being able to figure out why. At least I have a working theory now.
I prepared a reply under the assumption that your comment wasn't meant to be ironic, but on second thought... "...not being able to figure out why"? Really?
Tiny hat wearers. That’s why.
I agree with you Joe, us all caring for each other and helping each other is the way forward!
Word! You make perfect sense, my guy! Peace and love's the only way to go!
10 % for the Big Guy
I'm past middle aged and it feels to me like we've been in a crisis ever since I could understand the news. It's got worse as news media has become more ubiquitous.
We've been in deep dookey since at least 1912...
Yes
Follow the model of boomer immigrants, take your money and move to a remote countryside location for early retirement. This is literally not our fight and driving the newest EV Benz through a riot will be the next weird flex I don't want to be a part of
I agree
I share this experience and realized two things. The real issues are never spoken about, those which are addressed are worsened by purpose - and resources for life such as beauty and abundance are systematically ignored.
I completely agree with you. We get to a better world through kindness. Not just to family, but to people we don't know.
Some guy said that in a book once. It was a "Good" book, if I remember right.
I think it was by Shel Silverstein.
I totally agree with you
Its naive. The problem of the current world is definitely lack of empathy and selfishness, but you being kind won't make the people vested with the most power and ability to do things more kind. It needs more than kindness. You need organization of the meek who can force the powerful to do things for the better.
Best thing I read today. ❤
@@biswarupbhatacharjee6537 in combination
Your thumbnail should show Bill Gates, George Soros, Warren Buffet, Mark Zuckerberg, et cetera.
🤣 He want's to keep his channel 🤣
@@deltalj91 Heh, good point.
someone is watching to much fake new's. if you even bothered watching the video you would have noticed the crap you watch have been actively pushing end times rhetoric.
So Howe's theory only applies to the United States? WW2 was actually not so traumatic stateside, some even credit the war effort for getting the economy out of the depression.
Yeah, the "last crisis" was WW2, definitely not:
- The entirety of the Cold War was not "peaceful"
- Vietnam/Korean wars, let alone proxy wars
- Gulf War and Middle East generally for the last 30 years
The entire idea of "four turnings" just seems extremely US-centric and ignores the rest of the world, even ignores Europe except when convenient.
He mentions these criticisms later in his video.
My favourite was the 2nd and 3rd crisis being civil wars in the US, completely disregarding the fact that many european countries were at war on and off basically until the end of WW2, not to mention WW1 which, rather inconveniently, happened shortly before the 2nd.. I don't think I'm a believer of Generational Theory.
indeed. always be wary of centricism in ones theories. still..... maybe. america's foreign policy has been extremely aggressive the last couple decades, and seems like it can only drive the world to it's next war-crisis.
@geraldh3932 Yea, pretty much a textbook example of confirmation bias.
Hell, I would even call it extremely ignorant of US history because it leaves a lot of important historical events that made US, the US, today like the Gulf War, 9/11, Middle East for the last 30 years.
Either huge amounts of money turn you into a monster, or only monsters are only able to do the things necessary to become a billionaire.
There is no way to amass that kind of wealth without betraying and exploiting people.
That applies mainly to aristocrats and collectivist "leaders". If you have free capitalism and individual freedoms then you have to do a lot of good to get wealthy as well. That's why todays billionaires wants collectivism and destroyed free markets
@@Tom-fm2fhThe first thing capitalists attempt to do, once they have the capability to do so, is to capture the market. It is the logical and necessary endpoint of laissez-faire capitalism. Thus, if the “free market” has ever truly existed, it never exists for long: either a handful of wealthy people seize and exploit it, or the government creates regulations to prevent (or at least guide) that outcome.
I don't think people understand that wealth is not found in money. Money is nothing. You could survive without money everything you need already exists on this planet. Everything to live is already here and doesn't cost a penny. Just costs energy on your part. Learn how to do what your ancestors did. It teaches you skills you might need during a collapse of a nation.
That's why at the very end of their extravagant lives of wealth and power, profoundly intelligent and wealthy people struggle with the lack of sense of meaning.
Just like everyone else.
Same with politicians reaching a status of power wield that is significant enough to make change. They've sold their souls and bought their votes and slept with so many lobbyists that none of their original desire to help/make positive change remains intact
Why is Bill not on the thumbnail? He's particularly proficient at doing what the title suggests.
I think we're missing the real question...
If everything is (hypothetically) on a natural cycle, why mess with the cycle? Why rock the boat?
Joe is right about the limits of this historical pattern, take it far enough into the past and it falls apart, because all social and cultural and technological facts of life are far too different from ours.
But there is a problem with extending this into the future, too, and we are experiencing it right here on YT and other social media - *social media itself has fractured the human experience so much that we are no longer experiencing the world as other members of our generation do, even if they live next door!*
Very true. The algorithms will feed you only what you want to hear. Pretty much.
But extreme individualism (your fracturedness) is the herald of the crisis step according to the system (9:38). How does that not fit in?
I agree 💯, just simple things like everyone tuning in to NBC on Thursday nights and watching, Friends and such. Talking about it with friends and coworkers the next day. Now with all the streaming services I haven’t seen 90% of stuff people are talking about. We’re not even getting the same news in our feeds. Which is why as American I watch the multiple foreign news reports to see what’s really going on in my own country!
It is pseudo science. WW1 was far more important and pervasive than ww2 was. WW2 was only an attempt by the germans to fight ww1 with better terms. WW1 changed the world. WW2, the world was already changed but the changes were given deeper perspective.
This is a salient point to consider and you are wise to make mention of it.
Yeah, "accelerating" the downfall in the hopes to get to a good era sooner is the same as cutting your own body open a few days before surgery, in the hope it's already completely healed right as you get out of surgery.
This implies there is a "surgeon" who is coming to fix society. There isn’t.
Thank you for helping me understand this better.
But the people who are doing the accelerating aren't really concerned with getting the collapse over with, they're concerned with getting things moving in the directions they want. They aren't afraid of a collapse, they're eager to control the whole world themselves and the collapse is their opportunity to do it.
I think it is so important that you are bringing all this information to light. Thank you.
They know that on a long enough timeline they will be vulnerable to the commoner. This idea terrifies them.
The Four Turnings theory and it's timeline seems to be from a very very American point of view. I noticed quite a few major events involving the British, French and Russian Empires that were missed.
Absolutely, my dear can I get a chance to speak with you privately if you don’t mind
Okay so what’s your google chat
Thats because it was written by an american facist
Each system of countries have their own type of 4th turning but being the US is the global superpower its 4th turning is the one of concern
@@quijybojanklebits8750this is about as valid as numerology.
"They looked for evidence that fit their theory. But they kinda left out any evidence that didn't fit the model." Nailed it - not just for accelerationism, but across the social sciences. I switched majors from history to international relations, and was absolutely gobsmacked by the incredibly selective use of historical fact that social sciences ranging from sociology to economics routinely engage in, while ignoring obvious, better alternative explanations that are readily available, mostly because it would ruin their tidy theoretical structure.
The problem I find with all professional know-it-alls, is that the basis for all learning is to first admit there are things you either don't know or could be wrong about. Without this mindset you blind yourself to new information. The moment an academic takes a professional stance and becomes known as a proponent of an ideology, they make it very difficult to admit that they're falible (as admission of mistakes is a loss of credibility); which makes it very difficult for them to learn and improve and so they become a conceptual snapshot rather than a learning human being with an evolving theory. Their job becomes shaping data around their theory, rather than shaping their theory around the data.
It's no wonder most of their followers mimic that behaviour - ignoring/denying any and all evidence that doesn't fit their world view and building echo chambers to make them feel like their beliefs are a self-evident truth and they are intellectually/morally superior for noticing it. It's like academic cultism. Fit this arrogance with an 'ends justify the means' mindset and you have a recipe for disaster.
Lol like everyone else with power does.
It's a human thing, not a rich ppl thing.
Occam's Razor was abandoned many years ago. It challenges social, cultural and dare i say, scientific beliefs required to push political and economic agendas and no political party is immune to it. Nonsense and irrationality rule. The divide between people begins at the top of the hierarchical pyramid of power, if you will. Be careful to know where your information comes from. It might just be an enemy you never knew existed.
Your talking about the basis of liberalism. Ignore anything that disprove your beliefs 😂😂😂
@@Neion8 I don't think you understand, sticking to a theory/ideology is a feature not a bug.
You exhaust your theory, before changing your mind in most fields.
Absolutely amazing video and truly original content. Good job.
Idk. Im just sick of hearing the world is gonna end. Lets shit or get off the pot, because this is all getting kinda boring, and anticipation is stressful
Ha imagine learning nuke drills in school in the 50s
This gonna last longer then your life
See the history of millenialism, and even more revealingly, the Corpus Hermeticum, for precedent. It's the oldest trick in the bookdoom awaits us all unless u give us know-it-alls absolute power immediately so we can fix it... and most importantly - we don't have time to talk, but trust us now n you'll thank us later! ... Anyone familiar with grifters knows this tactic well! ... The problem isn't the suggestion that the world's gonna end, it's the claim to know what only God could know (regardless of whether or not one believes that such a knower does in fact exist - and it is very revealing how many atheists claim to know thingas that could only be known by an omniscient being): when and why it'll end and who will be judged, rewarded and punished when it does...
I'm watching the collapse of the British Empire.
It's not the end of the world. Americans are also very good in BS and making things big.
Think there are not even 400 million of them. They just make a lot of noice.
It's all apart of the show
This reminds me of the Futurism art movement in the years before World War I. They praised action, speed, violence, progress. They believed that war was the way technology and society advances. See: Gino Severini “Armored Train In Action”, “Visual Synthesis of the Idea: War”, “Red Cross Train Passing a Village”. After seeing the horrors of war, the Futurists no longer believed that war was beneficial and the movement died. My hope is these misguided individuals can learn from history and touch grass before it is too late. 😢
Its almost like humans refuse to learn from their ancestors
They likely won’t. Eventually all of us need to ask ourselves if we’re going to allow this to play out or take these people out of the game.
See, the flaw in this is thay you wish they would LEARN something.
But we live in a world in which everyone has the distorted idea that we are rigth, and our opinions are always "spot on" , nothing to be corrected.
There's very little motivation (if any) from someone who thinks they are rigth all the time to learn anything at all.
And if not, just in case, let's make sure to prepare to make them eat grass.
We are actively either forgetting history or wanting to repeat it.
Joe said, "It's hard to deny that were at some kind of crises point here." It's taken me getting really old to figure this out: It always looks like that. I know it's hard to believe, and I had to see it for myself. In 1963, for 3 days, the world thought we were on the brink of nuclear annihilation and held its breath (people were building underground bunkers in ordinary suburbs); the news was showing brave young men in live combat and actually getting killed every night at dinnertime (horrifying Vietnam); campus and convention riots; homegrown terrorist groups putting bombs in university buildings, government buildings, and under police cars, which killed people; young people shot on campus by National Guard troops; in the 70s, numerous airplane hijackings, murder on the tarmac; a president resigns because of corruption (1st time ever); disclosures of the military routinely falsifying reports of progress in Vietnam, which prolonged the war; more disclosures of secret military bombing that killed millions; this was followed by the collapse of trust in institutions; then another economic crises and everyone was in line to get gas; American hostages taken in Iran, more superpower threats of war; another stock market/real estate collapse in the 80s; AIDS epidemic; 9/11, two wars in the Middle East; the war against terrorism; the resurgence of Russia and then the rise of China; COVID ... I've skipped A LOT. The feeling that we are in crises was felt then, by almost everyone, in a never ending cycle of terrible problems, punctuated with a few short years of (very relative) tranquility. Then it would always start all over again. The takeway - DON'T DESPAIR! Don't fall into gloom! This is life. Stay informed and concerned, but don't lose your chances for happiness anytime you can grab some. Read some history and it will put you more at ease. It goes all the way back to ancient times, the earliest recorded history, and IT'S NEVER STOPPED. Courage is the determined effort to affirm life, despite everything. There will always be the beauty and the horror.
We didn’t start the fire, it was always burning since the world’s been turning.
The danger of annihilation was very real then and it did not happen because sane people on both sides of the cold war worked incredibly hard to prevent the worst.
There is no mechanism that prevents it on autopilot.
There were a lot of factors in place then that no longer exist.
Various international mechanisms that prevented dangerous escalations for decades after the Cuban Crisis were deliberately demolished.
There is and can be no guarantee that we will weather future storms just because we survived them in the past.
Especially not if our only plan is to hope or confidently believe that we will surely be lucky.
Thank you for that reminder. I've lived through all those events too and lived another day. I guess this time it's the cacophony of social media that makes it seem really apocryphal .
I think you're seriously mixing up the threat each of these issues actually pose to people. The Turkey / Cuba missile crisis was a massive global threat, as is the ongoing climate collapse.
Not if we get our democracy taken away and we are left with an authoritarian regime that's extremely hard to get out of once a majority of the nation votes for it...and EVERYONE in America WILL want to get out of living under a king, not only for the rest of our lives but many generations afterwards! How do you explain that to your children that you voted to remove their freedoms
we are flying through space on an oblate spheroid which contains the entire techno-sphere of 'life' that has taken a few billion years to reach. Individually, its like we have all just woken up in a room with a bunch of people who don’t know how we got here, have no memory of where we came from. Some people study the room, some people theorise how we got here, some people theorise why we are here but ultimately we have no clue what’s going on and why as much some will have you believe.
Great video! First time watcher. Has anyone ever told you that you kinda sound like Matt Frewer?
You should do a video on billionaire apocalypse bunkers. Maybe explain the science behind their belief that the city’s worth of staff they would have to hire to secure them, would just let them keep being the boss after society collapses.
Yeah, it's like their own personal Noah's Ark, so to speak.
They should all re-read the book "Level 7"
You think the staff wont ultimately revolt?
@@texasfossilguy I would revolt so fast, their grey t shirts would spin.
@@John-jd7mm More like the hms Bounty
"History is going to do what history is going to do, all we can do is take care of each other"
Well said mate
We are doing a terrible job
The plandemic opened my eyes
We are not good at our core
We are history
After world war 3 ... AI will be in charge...then the Aliens will show up ... History has too much drama...why not 😂
i disagree that we can't do nothing- we can disrupt echo chambers with core messages of this video for example- or dispell disinformation as a society- we can go to places where disinformation is being spread and engage the comments with reasons to not divide by providing solutions and facts to pithy trumpisms
All of these so called "Accelerationists" sound like every James Bond villain ever created.
Joe is proudly holding on to the most 90s sounding entertainment show intro jingle
I think you are right when you said it's terrible people using this stuff as excuses to do terrible things. I've always felt that there are people who just want to fight. I don't think they really care who they fight. They just use whatever excuse is closest.
It's because they're scared. Fighting is easy. Changing yourself? Your fears? Your reactions to those fears? That's the hard work. If it needs to be justified and makes no one a better person, you are just perpetrating the cycle.
"Some people just want to watch the world burn." - Alfred Pennyworth
For those with the most influence at the top, doubt it's about just wanting to fight. It's pretty clearly the "Never let a good crisis go to waste." money-making mindset. That's why the "effective accelerationism" just sounds like a re-branding of "effective altruism", which turned out to not be so altruistic.
a childs mentality.
Thankyou Joe. I have been trying very hard to understand "WHY". At 70 I don't have the real possible life span to see this come about. I hope the next generations survive mine. Utopia always seems to be some goal for one group or another. It never seems truly attainable. I have always seen some people salivate on the idea of social collapse. What a way to live your life. Cheers
It's wild how much time and money doomsday preppers spend in an effort to ensure their survival in the event of a global catastrophe, while I'm saving up to buy a plastic wading pool.
@@birdflipper I like how they buy gold for when the dollar is no good. I think that gold will have only the value of the person with food available for trade. A can of spgettios might be worth a gold coin. The true value of gold is set by stable governments. Food always has a real time value. Cheers
@birdflipper
Whoa Preppers just want to be ready in case of a societal collapse they aren't rooting for or plotting one.
When we were children, a commonly expressed bit of folk wisdom was "The road to Hell is paved with good intentions." It has come out of favor, perhaps because our so-called elites are full of Good Intentions?
@@cargilekmYou need to think a bit more. Try again.
First time viewer . I like the way you present an idea and look us in the eye and let us think about it .
I don't know if Asimov got inspired by any of this, but as your video progressed, I recall more and more the Fundation series, where a scientists (psyco-historian was the title I think) kind of predicted the fall of the Galactic Empire and took some steps to "reduce" the dark ages from 10k year to a milenia. Maybe is nothing related, but my mind go there anyway... I didn't knew any of this topic, nice video btw 😄
Herbert's Dune trilogy also has a heavy Accelerationist theme. Paul Atriedes, aka Maud-ib uses prescience to evaluate future possibilities and chooses a very bloody solution to achieve a future of long lasting galactic peace.
After nearly six decades on this rock, I tend to trust my ability to spot horseshit these days. But…what seems to be a source of relentless disappointment for me though, is the increasing desperation to grab hold of what surely can be seen as suspiciously simple answers to the obviously difficult and complex problems that we face as a society. This seems to happen with monotonous regularity and without any regard to how poorly thought out they are or how little intellectual or academic rigour has been applied to them. And that seems to fit the “Four Corners” narrative all too well.
Agreed. Complicated problems require equally complicated solutions. And guess what? Those solutions won't ever fully solve the problems they are addressing.
@@IronClawGaming a lot of the problems and solutions are a lot simpler than people make them look, though. like, there are people who just hate minorities; the solution is for them to fucking get over it. if that happened everything else would follow
I think it's the "suspiciously simple answers to the obviously difficult and complex problems" bit that stood out for me. The first inconsistency that jumped out at me regarding the "Four Turnings" model is that WW II is seen as a Crisis turning, but somehow WW I, a mere 25years prior appears to be glossed over in the "80 year cycle" - Edit: Hah! I then kept watching and Joe calls this out too! Doh!
I totally agree. Everyone wants everything to be simple and thus they jump on the bandwagon for simple explanations that don't make sense when looked at with an educated and critical eye. Unfortunately, the American school system is not designed to create critical thinkers. It's purpose is to create good little worker bees and consumers. That goal has been met and we are reaping the rewards of what we have sown. I am so glad that my father isn't here to witness what is happening...
Academic approval is quickly losing its importance. Reseach and universities are things that can be easily bought.
I think it's also important to understand how they're trying to "destroy" the world. It seems more like shake the world up violently so that the people of their choosing are destroyed. They probably haven't heard about game theory though. The mutual good always ends better than being selfish and evil.
Hmm, so you’re saying that the “billionaires” will get together and agree which races, gods and religions will be exterminated. Yeah that’s a good bet…
These monsters have openly talked about depopulation more than once. Not sure why anyone trusts those monsters.
Selfish and evil though are exactly who's running the world. Short term (unsustainable) gains are more important than long term steadiness.
What about a mutual powerful evil against a mutual weak good? Wouldn't the teamed up evil powers just steamroll everything like the Europeans did the world?
@@emp5352 That's a good example, who exactly would be a mutual weak good though? American natives, africans and asians were genocided and it's not a good thing, but their societies weren't really an example of goodness, far from it.
Awesome video! Very insightful.
It ignores the possibility that they may have their facts and/or their projections wrong. It ignores the fact that as time goes by, technology improves (an ironic thing for tech billionaires to ignore!) and so the longer the collapse can be delayed, the better we will be able to meet it.
Joe's quote of "history is going to do what history is going to do, and all we can do is take care of each other. Call me naive if you want to, but I think that's how we get to a better world" is exactly what I've learned as well. I wrote it down on a dry erase board I keep by my door to remind myself. 🤗👍
That's very sweet and earnest of you.
I don't think it's naive, I think it's a bit lazy
You are correct, it is pretty silly to think being nice to people will solve any of our problems. You don't fight wars with smiles, you just get your arse handed to you when you try. At some point Americans just need to man up, put their foot down and say no more war mongering, no more unlimited campaign financing and no more 90 year olds getting rolled out at the capitol to pretend to cast their vote when it is bought and paid for by the billionaires. Our betters are not working with the countries best interest at heart and they need to be replaced.
It’s called “The Golden Rule” and the other truth is that if you want to change the world, you have to change yourself.
I absolutely agree. We could change the world for the better if we all took care of each other.
"History is going to do what history is going to do and the best we can do is take care of each other" thanks man, that means a ton, love it
Wtf lol really…
Huh@@Monkehrawrrr
Maybe you think my comment was silly? or really correct? But since you commented. I would ad that I read the book that this whole video was about. I thought it made a lot of limited snse, yeah there are patterns of decay in any civilization, but it would be really simplistic to try to trace them and predict their outcome. The main thing is that the world is not in our control, and certainly not if we sit around theorizing. But if we accept that we are under our own control and then focus on what we can do to help the people around us, then we have a chance of thriving. So the book does not really address that. It just talks about a grand theory of history and there have been so many grand theories of history before. THey all get old and dusty and fail to explain the world in which we live.@@Monkehrawrrr
Or we could, I don't know, do something instead of type type type?
History hasn't done anything but teach and get ignored
“If I die, you all die” ego logic they abide by.
Thanks for this video. I hadn’t heard the term Accelerationism before. I’ve seen similar philosophies supported on some right of center forums. There is naive but unshakable believe that after society collapses that everything will magically be better. Somehow they are unable to realize that another alternative after everything collapses is a failed state, like Somalia, and that would be terrible for everyone. Somehow they are all convinced that after the collapse they (or people who share their views) will be in charge and this time they will make everything “right.” These philosophies are terribly dangerous and the people who support them are infuriating. They are unable to take to heart the aphorism of “be careful what you wish for, because you just might get it.”
What you described is definitely a mode of thought amongst the left, too. Nobody thinks they'll end up like Somalia or, say, the Bolsheviks. They all think they'll be post-revolution France. Of course, it gets alarming when you realize your ideological enemies have exactly the same thought, and think THEY will be the ones in charge after the collapse!
I think it's fundamentally a naive philosophy that doesn't survive long once the person learns more about the world. It's just an easy one to fall into (and stay in, at least for the uncurious), so there are always a few of these people around.
Order Out Of Chaos. The Dialectic. Problem - Reaction - Solution. We have suffered such Social Engineering attack century after century. We are is such an Accelerated Destruction Cycle now, called THE GREAT RESET. And they have been preparing for the reconstruction longer than they have the Destruction Method. The Great Reset Fourth Industrial Revolution and United Nations Agenda 2030 has already been in the process of Replacing our entire Western Civilization for decades. So while this dweeb is presenting the possibility that Billionaires are Intentionally Destroying Society to Build Back Better, I can tell you WHO is Doing it and How they are doing it. There are far too many armchair Philosophers out there that should stick to contemplating their navel, because you need a Real Conspiracy Researcher to reveal the Truth. I mean come on. Conspiracy Theories are no longer even needed. They are openly telling us what they are planning to do. Wake up...
It's not so much that things will magically get better once everything is destroyed, but rather the fact that the current system is failing and will continue to decline until it is destroyed. In that case for things to get better again, the decline must be taken to its conclusion.
Also leftists have a thing for revolution, don't they?
I’m at the point of preparing for empowering local communities to survive collapse and crisis, while maintaining some semblance of grassroots democracy- because if the psychos in charge plan to throw democracy on a national scale away in favor of globalist technocracy, we best be prepared for what the crazies have decided the inevitable is. They don’t seem to care that they might create a dystopian post-apocalyptic nightmare, they seem to relish the idea if it gives them power 🤦🏻♀️
Or it has always been in their heart and survival of the fittest makes better babies. Who can claim to have all the answers?
Believing you can do better by building something anew atop the ruins of the old world instead of trying to fix it, which is already hard, is nothing short of hubris.
And while I suspect we might disagree on a lot in terms of politics (I'm extremely sceptical of government and politicians), you're doing really well keeping videos featuring political aspects respectful for the viewers regardless of their leaning. I wanted to comnend you on that.
Hubris has always been our downfall, over & over again. Many failed to understand the assignment. Pride blinds, humility clarifies...and we are living in a time where most would prefer maintain their ego (worldview+ self concept) than evolve their mind to seek objective truths.
Despite what Graham Hancock will tell you, Atlantis is most probably a warning about national hubris, which we’ve failed to learn from ever since.
This is all a self fulfilling prophecy of a dystopian nightmare that everyone’s warned us against.
“Let’s take the foot off the brake and accelerate to certain collapse- what could possibly go wrong?” - some catastrophe capitalist
It’s the logical conclusion of the excesses of empire exploitation and the evolution of colonialism.
A world where ‘finance’ is the no.1 industry may be seduced by Gods of greed
The modern era tried both. Colonials built on top of the ruins of other societies and those who stayed behind tried to fix what they had - both failed miserably because here we are
Building is easy, finding room and permision to start, not so much.
I assume that in a group of people some want to stagnate and enjoy, while others wish to shape the world.
So the wealthy is playing Thanos
If the entire point in accelerationism to an overly wealthy person is that they can be part in shaping the world after the conflict, then their goal is neither ethical nor well-meaning. It is selfish at best. Anyone taking the lives of other people into their own hands without their consent is acting not on behalf, but against the interests of the people they might claim to help. Even if a future conflict is inevitable, we have no way of knowing how that is going to look like, so any harm of a future conflict is purely hypothetical, whereas the harm done in the supposed acceleration process is very real.
Thinking you can rule and/or free society with complex machines after destroying the stability necessary to build and maintain those machines in lunacy.
I think we as people in general have this idea in our head that other people do things as intentionally as we don't. Most people get in the gear of just doing things out of habit without the best reasons, or any reason at all.
I agree. Societal changes happen both gradually and suddenly, and it does seem like we don't have much control over it, either as individuals or groups. Things kind of happen on their own.
I think we downplay emotions, too.
Billionaire tells his minions/employees "We will do it this way!" This way fails and has a horrible impact like mass layoffs or environmental destruction. Billionaire loses very little personally and it felt really good to force his will on others regardless of outcome.
When you have everything, where do you get a dopamine hit? From forcing you new big idea on others. You start a fire and walk away while others burn. You get the fun without the negative consequences.
@@ZSd4cT things dont just happen on their own lol ..chemtrails dont happen on their own nor do wars etc
When you look at how power works, you see that those at the bottom are the ones that plod along, head down preoccupied with just eeking out a living. Whereas, the people with way more resources see themselves as the architects of the future. They move with carefully crafted plans to keep and increase their power and influence over the common people. They know best what is ultimately good for society even if their ideas mean complete disruption of people's lives. They feel free to control people with money, food, armies, resources, energy, pandemics, etc... like pieces on a game board.
To think that these people are just plodding along with aimless ambitions is to totally underestimate them.
Unfortunately, if there's one thing that's good at protecting and insulating people from destructive habits amd immaturity it's excessive wealth.
There's something to be said about defeatists that would rather the world end than come to any sort of understanding regarding the reasons for its suffering. If you're the kind of person that would rather hit a hard reset button than learn anything-- and you only want to hit that button because you think you'll be a survivor of this cataclysm-- then you're part of the problem.
Yes
capitalism ending isnt the same as the world ending. mark fisher wrote a book about this
MIT computers have been saying for decades that 2040 is about when capitalism will collapse.
I'm betting AI will do in humanity before then.
I've learned in my life that my best efforts simply aren't good enough because of things outside of my control.... I don't care if I'm one of the billions that pass on, we NEED a reset and globally.
My boyfriend is building the sprinkler systems for the memorial at the tops on Jefferson. Very close to home.
The tobacco commercial was awesome. it reminded me of the early 70s with ads like “Winston’s taste good.”
My great-grandmother Sidlo said, "Everyone wants to save the world. A wise person keeps to the world within their reach. Their home, their garden, their neighbors, accepting all are family and a reflection of themselves. This has always outlasted any strife we face." (some editing)
Now I know who to blame for the mess we're in.
lol that’s why it all sucks. If humans want to be successful going forward we need to think as a species instead of individual groups. And that will NEVER happen
It makes sense. Keep your life and your home in order. Be good to the people you personally know. If you can do that, then any crisis will only be temporary.
Yeah, Luke Skywalker should've stayed on his uncle's farm. Gotten married to a nice Tatooine girl and inherited it once Owen and Beru died. Not gotten involved.
@@vextierier9938the borg agrees with your assessment. Standby for assimilation.
The problem with the colon cancer analogy is that accelerationists don't want to detect and treat it early, they want to speed up the cancer to put the patient on the brink of death as quick as possible.
Same could be said what a three letter agency does they detect a potential group does a bit of chemo and end up creating a even bigger tumor in the long run with all the “treatments’
yeah we don't, we want to cure it as fast as possible by accelerating the rate of technology progression
Premise, I'm not in favor of what is described.
Anyhow, accelerating this process means fewer deaths in the process, lower loss of knowledge, and part of the infrastructure to hold the coming years until things get better.
No need to accelerate an issue that needs gradual regrowth adjustments. It's about finding and destroying things that afflict the environment or things that need to be repaired, replaced or demolished.
Exactly.
The funny thing is they think they'll be fine if society collapse, you think your money will help then? The people you hire to protect you and feed you will just... Keep doing that while society crumbles? For what?
I just started watching your channel today and I love it. You have sober views on fun topics and adequate disclaimers for the more fanciful stuff. You also are not afraid to discuss darker stuff, 2 headed dogs is all I will say about that... 😂. It's been delightful to watch you while I go through chemo! I just wanted to say good job and please keep it up!
It perfectly proves:
"Just because one's rich, doesn't mean he is also very intelligent. It means he accumulated a lot of money."
Any success in any field requires a certain kind of intelligence. To make a lot of money if you are a businessman is success.
@@veselgana A certain kind yes. But it doesn't mean you have to have a high IQ. There are actually studies on that. You don't have to be necessarily really intelligent in order to be successful. Endurance and luck are big factors, for example. But if this is your opinion it is perfectly fine. I'm just reciting here. I don't have a lot of personal energy invested in this topic really.
@@veselgana Elon Musk was already rich from his fathers mining profits, and his exorbitant wealth comes solely from Tesla being valued so highly.
If anything, Musk was good at selling the image of himself and Tesla, but that isn't really intelligence, it's just a talent.
Youre confusing intelligence and wisdom.
@@GordonSeal I cannot turn 200 k into 300 Million profit… That was the investment of Musk’s father. So I cannot say to the people who can, they did not earn their success. And this is just his first company. If you think, that is not a big deal, that is your opinion 🤷♀️ I’ve seen interviews with Musk and i do think, he is intelligent. But that is my opinion. I spoke generally in my comment, not specifically about Musk.
I didn't know about the four turnings theory, but right away as you were describing it - it completely ignores WW1 which was in many ways worse than WW2 as you mentioned, then the growth period is commonly known as the Cold War and when it comes to the USA and the distrust to government there is the whole vietnam war issue where government knew for years it is unwinable and lied to people which certainly contributed to the distrust. It also feels that this theory tries to somehow tie to the USA history and ignores Europe, Africa and Asia...
It is just a made up theory, but now it is more than that since people with immense resources seem to think it is a thing.
Agreed. The theory seems very purposely naive and cherry picks events to fit the model.
People like that theorist have a bad habit of always ignoring Africa & Asia, & leave Europe behind as if it's the tired parent who's no longer relevant. If you wanna look for patterns, check that ethnocentric crap out. The US is _NOT_ the centre of the freaking world, but these "philosophers" keep centering their ideas on the US as if we're the main driver for all of civilization. It's ridiculous.
@@DrachenGothik666 Africa is not in any way relevant. What happens or doesn't happen in Africa is at most a reaction to what happens in the developed world. Events in Africa don't shape anything outside Africa. Maybe a few songs about the Apartheid, that's about it.
I would strongly disagree. Apart from Europe, virtually nobody noticed WWI. The only way WWI is an event of significance is the fall of the European monarchies - particularly Russia. And the fact that it led to the REAL turning point - which was WWII, not WWI. In the grand scheme of things, Vietnam was meaningless, certainly no more meaningful than the Russian invasion of Afghanistan. Oh, it was a big deal for US certainly... the rest of the world, not really.
You humour is perfect 👌 thanks for all the chuckles along with the great educational content! ❤
Accelerationism just doesn't roll off the tongue like Vulture Capitalism.
Joe, taking care of each other is indeed the answer. It's too bad that way too many people don't understand this.
Then you are a sucker who can be exploited. - well thats how some people think now; and thats why we re f--ckd
Most people understand, but disagree on just what that looks like and how to go about it.
This is a good time to get to know your neighbors and be on good terms with them.
Insert meme from Pulp Fiction of a character wondering what Marcellus Wallace meant when he wanted them to "take care of" his wife.
@@jakeaurod In this case it means helping one another because if everyone did that it would fix society overnight.
Things don't have to be bad for people to come together. In fact, the better we have it, the more likely we are to be accepting, tolerant, cohesive.
lol you wish.
Joe! That was a great job I really appreciated this video.
Agreed @19:20. I think it's going to get worse before it gets better and I'm just as saddened as you are by it. Take care
So... we recognize destructive societal patterns, and so we must repeat them? That's where they landed? If im someone who discovers a pattern in my behavior, let's say, binge drinking for a week, 3 days of recovery, 2 weeks of productive activities, then boredom, and back to binge drinking. Should I resign myself to the cycle? Or should I address the core problem and reset my cycle? I know this is harder to answer on a majorative and generational scale. But there are common synchronicities between generations that are almost always the same that arise in different problems. Mark Twain said, "history doesn't repeat itself, but it sure does rhyme." With that in mind, maybe not acceleration, but early diagnoses to these rhyming problems should be enacted. I know that it's much more enticing to give into familiar patterns than to forge new footholds towards progression. So I guess we're doomed to keep climbing and backsliding our way to destruction, always staying in the same goddamn place.
Yeah. You would think that reading history would suggest that people learn and things change.
@@jeffengel2607 You'd think... Every time there was an incident at my organization my team would do a debrief afterwards and write a report on what went wrong and what all the incident responders felt would help us avoid a repeat (or worse). You'd think the Management team would make applying those recommendations a priority. You'd think...but you would be wrong.
i recognise these patterns.
This is the unintended real cost of progress - time acceleration, which is why there are societies quite content with what little they have, the cost is too high to provide a standard that only a few will enjoy momentarily
Ever since I found out about Exxon's in house "long term effects of fossil fuel on the planet" report in the 60's I have wondered how the people at the very top could justify their decisions and still claim to love their children/grandchildren. I get the idea of using wealth to create a bastion to protect their family from the dirty poors, but they still need air to breathe, right?
That! I called it the cycle of corruption by power drunkenness…I think all humans might be susceptible…once you become addicted to the accumulation of profit, it mesmerizes you into thinking you can buy your way out of everything if you can just accumulate enough power. At that point, you become blinded to reason, just like any other addiction.
Because there wasn't (and still isn't) any alternative. Is your oil product use = zero?
@@MB-xe8bb There is no alternative for a reason! Big oil has fought against any and all forms of alternative energy. Solar, wind, hell even clean coal!
@@TommyDye Come on, you really list solar and wind as viable? Have you never researched costs, energy production and maintenance on them? It's not viable yet. They are a money pit and the only real viable alternative in nuclear energy and it is true big oil has pretty much stop the nuclear industry in America almost completely.
They stop it by fooling us though, so if Americans were so fat, ignorant and lazy we'd have plenty of clean, cheap and safe nuclear energy in this country.
Don't get caught up in political activist talking points, they are always simplified to appeal to the masses and are never more than a surface level farce.
Need proof look at the ESG/DEI scores of big oil companies. They are the best companies on earth when it comes to being good for the planet according to the political metrics of ESG and DEI. I don't make up the scores so go verify it yourself I am not lying to you. Tesla gets a very poor rating despite the whole electric car thing because our betters don't like Musk. He doesn't tie the line for them.
Ditto for the tobacco industry. 💀👍
I don't think that anyone will ever completely understand or comprehend the price that humanity will have to pay to get to the better world.
I could never romanticize war, and part of it was seeing my grandmother tear up talking about WW2, 60 years later. And we were in Canada, one of the countries that got off the 'easiest' from the war. All six of her male classmates from her graduating class of 1940 died, leaving her tiny hometown in grief.
WW1 was definitely more important to world events than WW2. All of the major ongoing problems and instabilities across the globe stem from the events that lead up to WW1 and as you said, WW2 was just a reverberation from the conclusion of hostilities at the end of WW1. There is a lot more to it than those exciting, cinematic years between 1939 and 1945
And yet these days people don’t even know how WWI started. Last week I had to tell my gf that Japan was an enemy in WWII. 28 years old, and didn’t know. No Pearl Harbor, nothing.
I think it's about American perspective. For them, WW1 was just funny little safari
Yeah, I think the title of "The Great War" still holds true. It's a war that has had one of the greatest (as in large) impacts on the world in history. Just about every conceivable issue today can be directly tied back to that war.
WW1 itself had its precedents. In fact, you can go back to "Ogg the Caveman" and say everything the came about since his time came due to him and his descendants.
@@filrabat1965 I mean, yes technically everything descends from Cain killing Abel. But I think the point is that most modern issues can be more directly tied to WW1 than anything else.
The problem with these "revolutionaries" is that they turn on their own rather than turn on the billionaires who steal from them. The rich prey on your sincerity and use it as a weapon against you.
_“I can hire one half of the working class to kill the other half.”_ - Jay Gould, 1891
You don't have to be rich to manipulate somebody and use their desire to be good against them. A poor guy could do that and if done well enough, become quite powerful overnight.
@@daviru02 Yes, but it's the rich and powerful whom steal from the masses.
@@davidhunternyc1If you mean on a larger scale, then I guess that makes sense. Btw, I like how you added powerful in there. Not all powerful are billionaires. Look at Fauci.
@@daviru02Fauci is and was hardly powerful. He was chief medical advisor to Biden. That's it, and he's since retired. Wealth is power in America and Fauci is certainly wealthy, but not wealthy enough to have power beyond his station.
I was instally reminded of Peter Isherwell of BASH Cellular in "Don't Look Up."🙄
In its simplest form, there is so much money to be made from human and societal suffering, and those who can control that suffering and shape societal change as a result, will always tend to do that as long as the conditions which allow the system to perpetuate this cycle of monetised suffering, are allowed to continue.
19:22 "All we can do is just take care of each." That is the best quote in the video. It's funny how much smoke dissipates if you get into the habit of viewing everyone you meet or hear about as someone as interesting, valuable, and unique as yourself.
I am alone this Christmas and tired from what I hear about the world. This comment section is Gold. I feel like everything will be fine because there are still so many level headed normal people in the world.
@@bongo990so sorry you are by yourself this Christmas, but thank you for commenting. I hope you have a great day today anyway!
The saying "two wrongs don't make a right" gives the wrong lesson about kindness. The saying is actually
"If we're both wrong, we can make it right"
If only one side is changing something, half of what caused the problem is still there and it will grow again.
"The unknown is dangerous, the unspoken is cancerous"
The fear of not knowing or having control of something is dangerous but the fear in unspoken thoughts will decay your strength from the inside and nobody will see until it's on the surface. Share your thoughts they aren't a burden even if it's scary
But not everyone is, though. The whole kumbaya mindset is simply delusional. Terrible and stupid people exist, and they are not valuable. Boring people exist and they are not interesting. And...Yes, everyone is as unique as myself but then, that's not saying much. We're all exactly as unique as the rest. Besides which, none of that clears the smoke.
@@grabble7605, uniqueness is not about its value _per se,_ but looking for how diverse perspectives and abilities might complement each other in a productive, rather than a destructive, fashion. Destructive is trivially easy and requires no mutual respect, whereas net-positive average interactions in the Adam Smith free-market sense require a degree of mutual respect and active effort to stay workable and “smart.”
Viewing other people as valuable is not the same as always being nice and cheerful to them. While I typically block scam callers - these are people who do extraordinarily cruel and vile things to some of the most defenseless folk in society - I do occasionally take one, and immediately begin asking them if there is some way they can get a real job that doesn’t hurt people. Some are unaffected, of course. But for the most part, the ensuing silences are remarkable and let me know I’ve hit a personal nerve. I like to think that, just maybe, one or two of the more stunned ones started rethinking their life choices.
That kind of pointed interaction places high value on the other person, but Kumbya, it ain’t.
Zelazny wasn't the only Sci fi writer who touched on this. The original Foundation series by Isaac Azimov also touches upon this. However instead of just accelerationism, it was about how to mitigate the issues.
I also had to think of Foundation and thought: "They had the RIGHT idea about how to deal with impending collapse."
The funny thing is that we probably should be thinking along the lines of Foundation in order to mitigate the climate crisis.
Zaluzhniy is the great Ukrainian general.
@@johnchedsey1306 The problem is that the same people who don't want to take action against the climate catastrophe are also the people who have all the money that we would need in order to set up such a project.
@@johannageisel5390 Indeed. Tax the living crap out of them.
They choose you to suffer and they'll meet the survivors on the other side of it? Lovely.
Joe, I've thought about this way more than I should have probably. I've been a cop, a social worker, most all my life.
What it will take is an event that strips away all the things that allow us to look at others, and differentiate.
Only when we are on equal ground facing a common threat will we possibly come together. Even then I have my doubts.
Are you a fan of Watchmen (the graphic novel and/or movie)?
Fyi, I worked with Bill Strauss for decades. He was a nice guy. He was a comedian. An actual performing comedian. He was a self-styled expert in several areas who literally made up everything out of whole cloth, then cherry-picked history for examples that supported it. He was a nice man, but any random person's theories are as rooted in fact, reality, or history as anything by Strauss & Howe. Along with the annoying fact that "generations" are continuous, not neatly sandwiched apart. He was a nice guy but desperately wanted to be taken seriously as an "expert." That drove his generational theory. I think that drives a lot of what ego-oriented people do.
Well Im an author on psychology and the collapse of civilisations and I read the 4th Turning. My impression was - DOH, obviously. I have no idea why people get all cult-like over it.
Economies and civilisations go in cycles - YEAH. Each generation is the product of the previous generation - YEAH. We all know the family business its the grandson bankrupts it. No one is forming a cult around that. The family business is started by the grandfather, grown by the father and the grandson who never had to work hard or know poverty bankrupts it.
Its the same with countries - the generation that was spoiled after a major conflict and grew up with stories OF THAT conflict - they destroy the nation when they get to govern cos they see war as a solution and they never suffered in one.
I thought it was a very obvious superficial observation about the cyclical nature of history and conflict that was padded out with endless irrelevancy detail. I mean Joe summarised the book in 5 minuts...
I moved to Bulgaria 15 years ago - why? Cos it had gone through the collapse in the 1990's and was due to enter the happy optimistic prosperous times, I made that decision long before I read that book...
Isn't this the reason we have James Bond? To stop evil billionaires from destroying the world with their satellite laser weapon.
Or Austin Powers 🤣
yeah I often wonder what the f are James Bond, Ethan Hunt and Batman doing right now
FIRE THE LASER! @@epencrep
Have you noticed a slight change in emphasis in the latest Bond?
@@epencrepAustin is the hero we need
I am not a deep person but, you answered some questions I could not. Thank you for your time to share this
Don't worry. Deep people don't have the answers either...
It's all about money. A while back I was curious about the age of the oldest ice on earth and came across an article talking about it. Along with talking about the study and research there was a paragraph that talked about the billions of dollars of rare minerals that are in demand today and how corporations were regularly inquiring about glacial ice and how fast it was melting. They also were asking what might speed up the process. They want the minerals and natural gas that is currently inaccessible under the ice of places like Greenland. They are also excited about the possibility of a new trade route that could open up when the glaciers are gone. They want the money.
The important thing to realize is that the goals of the party at Davos is very different than the average person
This is an excellent point. CK initially thought that extremely wealthy people were basically regular people but with a lot of money. However, they actually have a completely different, secret, problematic, and psychopathic incentive structure.
It is always refreshing to discover somebody like you who is good at using and sharing critical thinking. Good luck to us all. 🤞🙏
As Carl Gustav Jung said: If you cannot understand the reason for what people do (I.e. governments and corporations) first, examine the results and potential consequences of their actions, and then you will be able to infer the motive. In other words; look at the results and consequences of what they are doing, and you will understand the why.
I agree. We just need to adopt a mindset of helping each other.
We can’t - we r too busy fighting our neighbors over cultural differences
A strong supporter of this idea is Russell Brand.
You mean like the Bible has always said
This is exactly how we got into this mess !