Will Adam Neumann Fail Again? ($1 B Value, No Product!)

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  • @samaeltheundying
    @samaeltheundying Před rokem +3735

    Having this dude influencing the housing RENTAL market and in my everyday life sounds like a dystopian nightmare.

    • @DacLMK
      @DacLMK Před rokem +35

      Everything is a dystopian nightmare to you people.

    • @minyaksayur
      @minyaksayur Před rokem

      with a rising interest rate, his investors are downward stupid.

    • @PlayedbyInstinct
      @PlayedbyInstinct Před rokem +49

      @@DacLMK to people on youtube..?

    • @RubixCubix_
      @RubixCubix_ Před rokem +27

      he is jewish, was that supposed to be a pun?

    • @5daboz
      @5daboz Před rokem +4

      Grim gets dark.

  • @aromagrande1914
    @aromagrande1914 Před rokem +1866

    This company resonates exactly with "you will own nothing and you will be happy"

    • @k9killer221
      @k9killer221 Před rokem +71

      Exactly. This is pod world being implemented and that AZ16 company knows it.

    • @lynchjl
      @lynchjl Před rokem +26

      No coincidence there I'm sure!

    • @remodernist
      @remodernist Před rokem +15

      exactly what i thought, they know this is a market ripe for investment and disruption

    • @user-fk8zw5js2p
      @user-fk8zw5js2p Před rokem +28

      "you will own nothing and pay for everything to be done for you and you will be happy because we own your money too"

    • @johnmaris1582
      @johnmaris1582 Před rokem +5

      Most people didn't own a farm, steel mine, tech factory, soap chemical plant and etc... Yet most people can get this product easily at affordable price. Private ownership is good but it's a mean to an end for efficiency and productivity, not the end of itself.

  • @Pouwmademedoit
    @Pouwmademedoit Před rokem +613

    Flow's aim of "giving renters *_a sense_* of security, community and genuine ownership" says plenty about their real intentions.

    • @jarvisaddison8560
      @jarvisaddison8560 Před rokem +39

      Keyword is " sense"

    • @defaulted9485
      @defaulted9485 Před rokem +28

      Thank GOD some people noticed it. Was starting to lose hope that these kind of slogan and PR Speak gets too many passes.

    • @fakeplaystore7991
      @fakeplaystore7991 Před rokem +14

      Expect his to get tons of ESG money with that aim. You will own nothing and you will be happy (by having *a sense* of "security", "community", and "genuine ownership").

    • @Pushing_Pixels
      @Pushing_Pixels Před rokem +7

      I wonder how much he'll pay himself for the trademark to his own company's name this time?

    • @unlucky-61
      @unlucky-61 Před rokem

      @@Pushing_Pixels 2 B

  • @ParotandArmorfinish
    @ParotandArmorfinish Před rokem +338

    So excited for Flow and its competitors to raise an unholy amount of money, buy out half the apartments in my area, triple the rent, and destroy the nations already shit rental market in like a year flat

    • @surfside75
      @surfside75 Před rokem +8

      You nailed it. -no pun🙃✌

  • @goranagar4010
    @goranagar4010 Před rokem +1378

    Also, "Disrupting the future of Living" probably means to Adam that instead of $270,000 dollar homes going for $520,000 they should be at least $850,000

    • @christinewatson1989
      @christinewatson1989 Před rokem +134

      "Disrupting the future of living" sounds ominous as hell.

    • @pieflies
      @pieflies Před rokem +81

      Disrupting the ability of the general public to be able to afford their own house.

    • @lbgstzockt8493
      @lbgstzockt8493 Před rokem +22

      @@pieflies sounds like the market is already sufficiently disrupted.

    • @jamieferguson935
      @jamieferguson935 Před rokem +3

      Your house price is only double there? Wow you have got it lucky.

    • @bloodaid
      @bloodaid Před rokem +11

      Did you say $1.3 million? Got it, $1.9 million.

  • @bad_money
    @bad_money Před rokem +1277

    The problem with a great majority of these "start-ups" is that they seem to like inventing problems to solve, instead of solving any actual problems.

    • @unnamed3893
      @unnamed3893 Před rokem +33

      Damn right. Loved your WeWork video btw!

    • @jessewinchester1829
      @jessewinchester1829 Před rokem +10

      Literally lol

    • @mac23806
      @mac23806 Před rokem +14

      Bingo you've just become woke

    • @BiigiieCheeese
      @BiigiieCheeese Před rokem +23

      "tech" start ups are just like modern mathematics. solve cases and problems that have no real life value

    • @paulmahoney7619
      @paulmahoney7619 Před rokem +64

      @@BiigiieCheeese people thought imaginary numbers had no practical use for centuries, and then we found the schrondinger equation. It can take a long time to find a use for it, but pure math gives us the tools, and eventually we find a use. And unlike companies, pure math has never destroyed more money than 99% of us will see in a lifetime.

  • @Windows98R
    @Windows98R Před rokem +139

    I don’t need a “sense of genuine ownership”, I just want to own it. Ain’t that hard of a concept to understand.

    • @vvenkat111
      @vvenkat111 Před rokem +7

      that is why you and I are thousandaires while Weedboy is attracting 2B$ golden parachutes and 350m$ seed funding.

    • @szuperrosszarcu
      @szuperrosszarcu Před rokem +4

      @@vvenkat111 I still can't see the appeal of Weedboy. If I were a serious capital manager, I wouldn't touch that guy with a 10ft pole.

    • @thunder____
      @thunder____ Před rokem +2

      @@vvenkat111 I think it's bold to even assume a stranger is a thousandaire these days. I personally know several people with Bachelor's degrees who usually have less than $100 to their name.

    • @Laotzu.Goldbug
      @Laotzu.Goldbug Před rokem

      @@szuperrosszarcu there is something 80% plus of these people have in common, and that level of nepotism and market control means you can continue to make profits for a very long time even when on the longest time scale you are destroying value and productivity. this is the essential nature of parasiteism.
      Small hats open big doors.

  • @23Agarwaen
    @23Agarwaen Před rokem +71

    I'm calling it now: Flow will be basically a landlord with a smartphone app (so you can, e.g., order for a plumber). They'll ofcourse offer exorbitant leases for the privilege of "living in the future".
    They'll then try to pitch their app services to other landlords by getting a cut on the lease.

    • @user-ph2ql2vg1d
      @user-ph2ql2vg1d Před 3 měsíci

      I am a landlord working through a very efficient independent management company who are responsive to renters' needs. They have been around for decades and I first knew them when I was a renter myself.
      So how is any of the BS new?

  • @JamesHahnII
    @JamesHahnII Před rokem +520

    His big idea is to be a real estate developer. Stunning.

    • @MuppetsSh0w
      @MuppetsSh0w Před rokem +74

      Not even a developer but a landlord lol

    • @mjmulenga3
      @mjmulenga3 Před rokem +57

      Yes, but disruptively. 🤣🤣🤣

    • @StefanReich
      @StefanReich Před rokem +29

      Nooo no no no. He is "rethinking the housing market by creating a branded product with consistent service and community features".
      Yeah. Whatever... that means.

    • @firehot006
      @firehot006 Před rokem +25

      But he has a nicer website and logo, so the company is worth billions.

    • @SecondTake123
      @SecondTake123 Před rokem +2

      Exactly!

  • @mikyhtx
    @mikyhtx Před rokem +712

    This is great! I am looking forward to WeCrashed season 2.

    • @adamalilou
      @adamalilou Před rokem +21

      Hahaha same!

    • @ElectrostatiCrow
      @ElectrostatiCrow Před rokem +15

      I heard the second season has a crash bigger than the first.

    • @jivasche7345
      @jivasche7345 Před rokem +20

      I hope it doesn't happen. I want the new series be called Flop instead of WeCrashed season 2

    • @Project_1143M
      @Project_1143M Před rokem +7

      @@jivasche7345 nah WeCrashed season 2 is better

    • @suhaas4546
      @suhaas4546 Před rokem +8

      Would WeFlowed be a better title?

  • @akaMokassin
    @akaMokassin Před rokem +42

    Am I the only one who has the words "money laundering" pop up in his head when he hears stories like this?

    • @bbuggediffy
      @bbuggediffy Před měsícem

      Yes, you are wrong. This isnt it

  • @fearlv1rattata
    @fearlv1rattata Před rokem +73

    Knowing Adam's background, it's basically going to be some dystopian communal living situation that they charge an inordinate amount of money for. They're going to see the "you'll own nothing, and you'll love it" WEF quote come to life. Can't wait to see what it is.

    • @cameron_fairchild
      @cameron_fairchild Před rokem

      The costs will be covered by the govt, during Biden's second term. Adam wants to do the housing for the disaffected, homeless, mentally ill, drug-addled people who will end up on Universal Basic Income. Housing that will be subsidized, then be run through FEMA after some false flag disaster.

    • @freddycastellanos3783
      @freddycastellanos3783 Před 8 měsíci

      The church of Adam

    • @bobchipman4473
      @bobchipman4473 Před 8 měsíci +2

      ​@freddycastellanos3783 Well, the synagogue of Adam atleast.

  • @Macho_Fantastico
    @Macho_Fantastico Před rokem +1354

    You got to give Adam credit, he manages to get money from investors before he's even got any idea what the hell he's doing. That's a skill right there.

    • @pumpedupbro4200
      @pumpedupbro4200 Před rokem +113

      But that's also conning. If it's a skill than it's a bad one to have. People like him should not be given a chance as they are upto no good

    • @cloudbloodmusic
      @cloudbloodmusic Před rokem

      Yeah the skill of bullshit with a sprinkle of privilege

    • @kimberleymansfield1099
      @kimberleymansfield1099 Před rokem +92

      Not a skill....a scam!!

    • @applchu
      @applchu Před rokem

      If you actually see the history of the most successful people in the world, they all have "relentless lying; ridiculous embellishments" in their bio. If you want to be successful, just lie until people perceive value i guess.
      ...and get adopted into an affluent NYC family who can afford to put you into a business college too

    • @kkman7394
      @kkman7394 Před rokem +14

      Probably invested some of his wealth in the fund with the understanding that the fund invested in his venture at a stupid valuation.

  • @nixonteo
    @nixonteo Před rokem +1811

    Adam is the epitome of failing upwards.

    • @Praisethesunson
      @Praisethesunson Před rokem +1

      As long as you can con the already wealthy, you can get away with anything

    • @MandoMTL
      @MandoMTL Před rokem +40

      Little hats.

    • @ClarkHathaway3238
      @ClarkHathaway3238 Před rokem +53

      Point taken but you can hardly call it failure when he's doing more or less what he set out to do. He's like Trump or Musk. He has no vision for the future. Everything he does is an instinctual response to the state of VC/PE where he sees opportunity to produce a high valuation with less-than-viable product.

    • @jaysdood
      @jaysdood Před rokem

      @@knotscapital Too ethical.

    • @ThePowerLover
      @ThePowerLover Před rokem

      @@jaysdood He.

  • @bobbym6130
    @bobbym6130 Před rokem +19

    Taking care of the home you own is a very fulfilling experience. Learning to DIY, meeting neighbours and getting recommendations, meeting local people who do lawns, these are parts of life that should not be replaced by an app.

  • @Snowy123
    @Snowy123 Před rokem +54

    He proves that the people you know is more important than having a product. He might be a genius at pitching but they're product geniuses who aren't getting the funding they need.

  • @nalgene247
    @nalgene247 Před rokem +193

    "giving renters a sense of ... genuine ownership"
    lol so basically pay us and we will do our best to trick you into feeling like you actually own something. sounds about right for this guy.

    • @mm-hl7gh
      @mm-hl7gh Před rokem +11

      its perfect. "a sense of ownership" thats exactly what the customers get for their cash. no more, no less.

    • @6shnuggle6
      @6shnuggle6 Před rokem +7

      As a renter, this scares me. It’s getting hard to rent without terrible living conditions. This guy has no idea but I guess that’s not the point.

    • @18booma
      @18booma Před rokem +13

      "We'll give you the opportunity to pay a mortgage and maintenance. Just not your mortgage."

    • @somethinglikethat2176
      @somethinglikethat2176 Před rokem +11

      Don't you want the sense of "community" the comes with living with 4 or 5 strangers?
      Wouldn't you enjoy listening the Brad and Tiffany fight in the next room about whether he did or didn't look at that waitress's ass while you're trying to sleep?
      What about the sense of ownership cleaning up after Amar'e who totally doesn't pay rent because his just staying with is girlfriend Kendal while he looks for his own place for 3 months and counting?
      What about the feeling of belonging that you could get from Cole and Phil trying to explain to you why the Netflix adoption missed so much of the subtly of the source material?
      And sure Colin makes a lot of noise but his streaming channel will take off any day now and with that and work it's totally understandable that he couldn't do his chores around the house.

    • @mikemurphy5898
      @mikemurphy5898 Před rokem

      @@somethinglikethat2176 who hurt you?

  • @geoffreypiltz271
    @geoffreypiltz271 Před rokem +926

    It's all about getting a lot of cash to pass through the business. It doesn't matter what lies you tell or how implausible or unworkable the business model is. If enough money is involved then it's easy to get a serious amount of wealth to stick to your hands before it goes belly-up.

    • @keno9964
      @keno9964 Před rokem +19

      Richard Branson can support that :)

    • @fidelio9301
      @fidelio9301 Před rokem +26

      Modern business black pill.

    • @rjung_ch
      @rjung_ch Před rokem +25

      He's basically a crook, reminds me of Trump or Kushner.

    • @DenizKupanaha
      @DenizKupanaha Před rokem +9

      Yes. If you do it right and only sell a small amount of stock (still a lot of money), you can make it legally safe.

    • @mattfirman3877
      @mattfirman3877 Před rokem +14

      Exactly. This isn't disrupting anything but their wallets. What a joke.

  • @theoryneutral
    @theoryneutral Před rokem +9

    This has inspired me to launch a startup. A new paradigm. WECEL. At WECEL, Adam can share a jail cell with Elizabeth Holmes despite their differences in gender and criminal preference.

  • @southparkgdp
    @southparkgdp Před rokem +12

    He is a perfect encapsulation of the modern age: Clever marketing, cheesy "brotherhood" talk and lies barely covering up a shameless unicorn.

  • @goranagar4010
    @goranagar4010 Před rokem +821

    If this doesn't end up as another cult-scam like Adam's last project I will be very much surprised

    • @fidelio9301
      @fidelio9301 Před rokem +16

      You mean like all start ups?

    • @Ken-nv2hl
      @Ken-nv2hl Před rokem +12

      Does it matter? There is no negative consequence for his actions. Even if it does fail he will get another golden parachute. I'd say good on him I encourage everyone should do the same as he does! As investors have stolen so much money from hardworking working class people then throw it away onto people like him.

    • @cutiko
      @cutiko Před rokem

      Why cult?

    • @dodgemF1
      @dodgemF1 Před rokem +1

      @@fidelio9301 youtube was a start up 🤔

    • @fidelio9301
      @fidelio9301 Před rokem +3

      @@dodgemF1 Exactly and look at it

  • @aviztar
    @aviztar Před rokem +2184

    I mean... at this point, I'm rooting for Adam, if somebody is stupid enough to actually go into business with him, they deserve to lose the money

    • @HShango
      @HShango Před rokem +59

      Exactly (agreed)

    • @o1lec1
      @o1lec1 Před rokem +88

      Darwin's economics

    • @foobarFR
      @foobarFR Před rokem +115

      He acts like a drain to evacuate all excess of dumb money in the financial system.

    • @HostileTakeover555
      @HostileTakeover555 Před rokem +4

      I’m not. I think he’s such an obnoxiously pretentious 💩 and I think there are many more projects that are worthy of investing in.

    • @rickysterling9194
      @rickysterling9194 Před rokem +107

      First rule Rich people never loose money. Those who have invested with him are generally connected with gov so even if he looses , gov will print more money to pay back investors or write off the loan. Which roughly translates to more inflation, which will be bore by public.
      Please name one rich investor of WeWork who is living on street because of WeWork disaster.

  • @HowItHappened
    @HowItHappened Před rokem +2

    Awesome analysis on Flow! Thanks for the mention too 🙌

  • @jeffw8218
    @jeffw8218 Před rokem +117

    It’s completely insane that this guy is not in PRISON for investor fraud.
    Their company has to be protected by MOSSAD or something like that.

    • @cameron_fairchild
      @cameron_fairchild Před rokem +17

      You're getting warmer. hint: SBFried.

    • @jeffw8218
      @jeffw8218 Před rokem +1

      @@cameron_fairchild yeah, but even Bernie Madoff was arrested and sentenced.
      The FBI/DOJ/SEC are (hopefully) getting as much info as they can so they have an airtight criminal law case.

    • @jbbrolic
      @jbbrolic Před rokem

      @@jeffw8218 Bernie Madoff there was no grey area to not prosecute. It was a straight up ponzi scheme. So was FTX but the lax regulation in crypto (even though FTX wasn't a real crypto company, it was a ponzi scheme) could give them the leeway to not prosecute a tribesman.

    • @jeffw8218
      @jeffw8218 Před rokem +5

      @@jbbrolic True, but SGF still committed a litany of crimes that apply to crypto, such as wire fraud, which could easily land him in prison for 20-years on its own. Add the other charges, and him, Caroline Ellison, and a few other people could face life in prison, or at the minimum 20-years.

    • @vn2183
      @vn2183 Před rokem +6

      Seriously, Why is he not in prison?!?! Who in their right mind would invest in anything this guy is proposing?

  • @makodad
    @makodad Před rokem +232

    Most of the startup ecosystem works on the principal of the "Greater fool theory". Wework might have crashed but the investers who invested early did make money selling it to the people who joined late to the frenzy, and a lot of it. He may have been the reason for Wework's crash but he would still get investors to invest in any "idea" he can cook up, all they need is to find is the greater fool.

    • @somethinglikethat2176
      @somethinglikethat2176 Před rokem +16

      I think it will be harder this time around. It's one thing to fail, it's another thing to fail so hard you become a household name.

    • @nycgweed
      @nycgweed Před rokem +16

      Exactly another ponzi

    • @t.7124
      @t.7124 Před rokem +4

      @@nycgweed 🤔Yeah it's almost like capitalism promotes exploitation

    • @DanDog91
      @DanDog91 Před rokem +7

      Will Flow be successful? NO .. but it will likely succeed in its goal of creating a wad of money to fund golden parachutes for its investors.

    • @Israelpwn
      @Israelpwn Před rokem +1

      Thanks! Everything actually makes a whole lot of sense now.

  • @johnsmith99997
    @johnsmith99997 Před rokem +114

    VC isn't about good business, it's about finding a greater fool - and as we know there's one born every minute

  • @sarasotauptoseattle
    @sarasotauptoseattle Před rokem +4

    I'm going to purchase an annual subscription to CS & Nebula, based solely on the strength of how much I appreciate your YT content. Thanks Dagogo!

  • @raincoaster99
    @raincoaster99 Před rokem +2

    This episode reminded me how much I admire your channel. I got the audiobook too, but that’s like three weeks of my life.

  • @evilflowx
    @evilflowx Před rokem +82

    It’s basically a subscription home rental service. You pay a monthly fee and you can choose from available properties and move around as your needs change. Meh. It’ll be expensive and the most popular locales will be fully booked.

    • @paulmahoney7619
      @paulmahoney7619 Před rokem +22

      And it'll take housing off the common market, worsening the housing crisis.

    • @mukamuka0
      @mukamuka0 Před rokem +6

      And you'll be the one who pay mortgage for them with your monthly fee with this they can expand and expand until in the end Company will own every properties and people will have to rent it from them.

    • @cihadturhan
      @cihadturhan Před rokem +1

      It might not be that expensive as they'll be operating thousands of properties but what happens when they increase their subscription price when you live is the actual problem.

    • @tomlxyz
      @tomlxyz Před rokem

      I can see it fitting certain types of people who stay in a certain area for longer than an usual hotel stay but then move on

    • @chrisnamaste3572
      @chrisnamaste3572 Před rokem +2

      Neighborhoods auctioned off to the highest bidder like AirBNB.

  • @sinenhlanhla.
    @sinenhlanhla. Před rokem +346

    Sorry but if Adam Neumann is getting a second chance at being a scammer, then Elizabeth Holmes should make a return as well 💀

    • @AwardFabrik-SoF
      @AwardFabrik-SoF Před rokem +32

      One drop of blood gonna buy you 1% shares... right...right???!!

    • @cloudbloodmusic
      @cloudbloodmusic Před rokem +26

      Well Adam actually had a product to sell people. He technically didn't commit fraud but he did mismanage money and did a legal form of embezzlement

    • @loln00bsify
      @loln00bsify Před rokem

      You can't defraud upstanding American war criminals like Henry Kissinger. That's criminal. Defrauding the American public? Have at it!

    • @hoangle2483
      @hoangle2483 Před rokem +13

      @SayMyName Now u mention it. Maybe there are some factors of Nepotism/ favoritism in this. Dude probably has some degree of connections

    • @sinenhlanhla.
      @sinenhlanhla. Před rokem +4

      @SayMyName You are so right.

  • @Myrddin1955
    @Myrddin1955 Před rokem +6

    Anyone who goes into business with this guy, really does deserve all they get! Mind boggling!

  • @_romeopeter
    @_romeopeter Před rokem

    Great one as always 🔥
    I’m very much interested in how you go about your research. Please shed light to your approach.

  • @laurenconrad1799
    @laurenconrad1799 Před rokem +106

    I remember reading horror stories about WeWork’s corporate culture on Glassdoor way back in 2015, before people on the outside knew what was really going on. But those Glassdoor reviews certainly gave me a glimpse.

    • @artsmith103
      @artsmith103 Před rokem +12

      It was a destructive mix of wannabes posturing to be too cool to actually have to do something productive. I suspect many tenants were underachievers living in undesirable part of city that used wework membership to hang out with flashy crowd in nice location. Kind of like a gym membership for image nerds.

  • @fatcat22able
    @fatcat22able Před rokem +450

    How the hell this guy still manages to find CEO jobs is beyond me.

    • @Magicalnora
      @Magicalnora Před rokem +33

      How this guy is sitting at a table with Theresa May is beyond me

    • @rjung_ch
      @rjung_ch Před rokem +20

      Or that people would invest with him / in him. Guess people are greedy, similar to the people who invented in One Coin, she's been in hiding since 5 years or more.

    • @tovsteh
      @tovsteh Před rokem +59

      He doesn't find CEO jobs, he creates them for himself.

    • @chabland
      @chabland Před rokem +19

      Well, to start with, apparently he is pretty good at lying.

    • @mariusvanc
      @mariusvanc Před rokem +26

      It's easy to be a CEO. Start a company. Make yourself the CEO.

  • @kateskeys
    @kateskeys Před rokem

    Great video (as usual) thanks Cold Fusion.🌟🌟🌟🌟

  • @davidloughlin2238
    @davidloughlin2238 Před rokem +8

    Adam was all about "We" at WeWork, when it crashed he became all about "I", and ran off with $1.6bn while employees were getting laid off without pay or redundancy.

  • @CapitalF2045
    @CapitalF2045 Před rokem +78

    Marc A.: "We (pun intended) have to do something about the housing crisis", Also from the same person: "Don't build multi-family housing in my neighborhood!" Translation, ideals are great, popular, and cheap, but equality takes humility and sacrifice.

    • @18booma
      @18booma Před rokem

      He literally just wants to make money off the housing crisis. And once a capitalist makes money off a crisis they perpetuate it, they don't fix it.

  • @alexmarvin3093
    @alexmarvin3093 Před 7 měsíci +4

    I'm definitely going to spend a few years building a house one day in a remote location

  • @jaguarazul
    @jaguarazul Před rokem

    Awesome video!! Hopefully it will open some eyes. 👌👏
    Thanks for sharing

  • @normalname17
    @normalname17 Před rokem +22

    can't wait for Elizabeth Holmes's crypto project

  • @amizan8653
    @amizan8653 Před rokem +46

    "elevating the world's consciousness" WTF does that even mean?

  • @discoverymoi
    @discoverymoi Před rokem

    Man I’m so interested in the video about the GM EV car, I wish I could see it on the nebula platform, but I can’t so I’ll wait for it to drop here. Thanks man.

  • @Tizianv
    @Tizianv Před rokem

    Curious to see where this goes. Looking forward to a follow up video :)

  • @AlexHendershot
    @AlexHendershot Před rokem +51

    How is it possible that people continue to look at this like a tech company when it’s literally a normal REIT

    • @tycooperaow
      @tycooperaow Před rokem +9

      Because he's too associated with wework so people think it's a new and innovative one using works like "disruption" etc. Plus he's marking it like one

    • @semperaugustus661
      @semperaugustus661 Před rokem +2

      Because flow.

  • @keno9964
    @keno9964 Před rokem +131

    This guy is just the front man for others in the darkness.

    • @contrerasmcr100
      @contrerasmcr100 Před rokem +8

      Exacto

    • @chuasmare22
      @chuasmare22 Před rokem +8

      Yes, I was thinking the same way.

    • @aromagrande1914
      @aromagrande1914 Před rokem +10

      You know how it goes, hes just a vessel to integrate another unnecesary market. Further pushing down on the already expensive market that is renting/buying a living space.

    • @bloodaid
      @bloodaid Před rokem +6

      Money laundring. What else.

    • @dustchip8060
      @dustchip8060 Před rokem

      So true.

  • @ajackson9326
    @ajackson9326 Před rokem

    Great broadcast

  • @61klm
    @61klm Před 7 měsíci +1

    Hey dagogo love your videos so relaxing to listen to these preposterous stories, what a crazy world… can I ask what’s the closing credits song called? 🙂

  • @evanbohn
    @evanbohn Před rokem +45

    "Tech Entrepreneur" = rents individual desks in an office space
    flow will probably just have a streamlined eviction process, showing shared apartment spaces while kicking out the previous tenant

    • @cpeterso
      @cpeterso Před rokem

      Tech "disruption" is just a means of sidestepping regulation, funny that we're seeing conditions that led to the demand for the regulation in the first place

  • @ulimetic
    @ulimetic Před rokem +50

    The game is about inflating the valuation so the 1st group of investors can drop it on the 2nd round of investors. It has nothing to do with actually creating anything of value, else than value for the 1st round of investors. Startups at this point are just speculation.

    • @ingenieroriquelmecagardomo4067
      @ingenieroriquelmecagardomo4067 Před rokem +6

      Fr. Venture funds in the US have so much money they just dump millions on almost anything and hope 1 of them makes it big.

    • @lowwastehighmelanin
      @lowwastehighmelanin Před rokem +1

      MLM at a huge scale.

    • @Dwightstjohn-fo8ki
      @Dwightstjohn-fo8ki Před rokem

      @@ingenieroriquelmecagardomo4067 Mining stocks in Canada and on small exchanges are just like that: get money into 25 outfits and hope ONE or two pay off. But that's the industry. This is a con, based largely in the "correct" cities of New York and London, maybe a few others. And you take a lot of people's money, too, in what is basically fraud/con/stealing. The "suckas" get bled in the second and third round.

    • @ingvarhallstrom2306
      @ingvarhallstrom2306 Před rokem +3

      Someone named Ponzi something?

    • @onehitwhat
      @onehitwhat Před rokem

      A16Z already operates on this goddamn model, back when "initial coin offerings" (unregistered securities) were offered by tech startups they used to invest in those and then sell them to bag holders.

  • @thedisclosedwest7659
    @thedisclosedwest7659 Před rokem

    Hi there, thanks a lot for your work!

  • @danielsweb2
    @danielsweb2 Před rokem +4

    A couple thoughts. 1) What does redemption look like for someone like Neumann? and 2) What does unbroken VC look like? This is a nice video, as always, beautifully produced and articulated. But this video anyway, I found it hard to connect the threads and get a coherent thought outside of "here's a clever fund raiser with a sketchy past building again." /shrug

    • @brushstroke3733
      @brushstroke3733 Před rokem

      I think the point of the video was to warn viewers to steer clear of the con known as "Flow".

  • @E_Crypto
    @E_Crypto Před rokem +73

    Gonna start calling him Adam "The Magician" Neumann. Can turn air into a billion dollars.

  • @mhkpt
    @mhkpt Před rokem +108

    I'd hope this turns into another catastrophe for investors, but the problem is, if that happens, it'll probably also suck for his workers and customers. Also, notice the Alfred tagline and promise - "above-market rents". Really serving society there.

    • @philoslother4602
      @philoslother4602 Před rokem

      Yep, Serve me, I want my house's value to multiply by 4 in 10 years

    • @mikemurphy5898
      @mikemurphy5898 Před rokem

      Yes, serving society means providing them the services they want as indicated by what they are willing to pay for. It doesn't mean making everything cheaper although even when that happens people still complain because someone, somewhere is being negatively effected by it. It's almost like some people just want a reason to complain.

    • @ArawnOfAnnwn
      @ArawnOfAnnwn Před rokem +6

      Investors don't lose out working with people like him lol. They make plenty of money in the process. The only ones who get shafted are hardworking working class people, via disruptions in the rental market.

    • @Connorthecatsdad
      @Connorthecatsdad Před rokem +7

      We have to get back to an economic model where the most valuable thing is the result of a product or service and not hype. It's embarrassing

    • @Myrddin1955
      @Myrddin1955 Před rokem

      @@philoslother4602 just the four times? Really?

  • @xiongbenjamin
    @xiongbenjamin Před rokem

    Awesome video! Thank you!

  • @romoalex
    @romoalex Před rokem +21

    i had a boss like him.... same home country and same mannerisms, also went out of business

  • @PIMKAMINA2
    @PIMKAMINA2 Před rokem +7

    "being a decent human being isnt part of the job, its nice but its not good business". Bodes really well /s

  • @danstewart2770
    @danstewart2770 Před rokem +1

    I'd love to see Andreessen Horowitz's (AH) deal docs and securities structure. It could go either way. AH could have offered very permissive terms given infinite confidence in Adam Neumann's (AN) business acumen, or they may have required very restrictive terms given reports of AN's lavish, nay reckless, spending and insider conflicts. In either case, I'd be inclined to make a small follow-on investment on whatever AH's terms turn out to be.

  • @ypure3859
    @ypure3859 Před rokem

    recently subscribed. Really like 👍

  • @ernestofermin3136
    @ernestofermin3136 Před rokem +62

    My uncle worked for we work in Manhattan for a few months before being laid off. My first thoughts walking through the workspace was how the company could make money when there work space was like a man cave. Coffee bars, pool tables, seats all over, you name it the offices had it I knew it seemed too good to be true but my uncle said he had a good time while there lol

    • @von...
      @von... Před rokem +7

      went to one in mexico when I was there for a few week to do work while there, shit was actually pretty dope. But yeah, I just got swiped in by my homie & tbh I have no clue how they make money unless the companies are paying hella to have their employees work from there. It just was 99% of remote workers chillin hard & occasionally taking a call, but it was pretty decent & my friends personal office was dope & super well sound-insulated.

    • @hoangle2483
      @hoangle2483 Před rokem +8

      From what I remembered about my professor said.
      WeWork aims to be a place where new start ups gathering around. And when there are lots of start ups gathering, there are higher chance of a Unicorn to appear. Imagine owning a place where Unicorns are likely to appear.

    • @toomanymarys7355
      @toomanymarys7355 Před rokem +9

      @@hoangle2483 the unicorn can then get its own building. That's like wanted to be the janitorial company servicing start ups.

    • @hoangle2483
      @hoangle2483 Před rokem +10

      @@toomanymarys7355 Wework could still have the advantage of being the few first ppl to interact and make deal with the Unicorns, since they own and monitor the area.
      Dont forget the network effect, if WeWork can establish itself in the start up community as the place where every Unicorn gathers. New start ups and especially investors will start flocking over.
      Remember that the major shareholder of WeWork is Softbank, who is extremely aggressive in seeking out Unicorns.

  • @taylorinase2148
    @taylorinase2148 Před rokem +15

    “Maybe he doesn’t have people’s best interests at heart” 😭🤣

    • @taylorinase2148
      @taylorinase2148 Před rokem

      Ya, maybe..

    • @d993s
      @d993s Před rokem

      Which one of his tribe have people’s best interests at heart? Zero

  • @joshuapatrick682
    @joshuapatrick682 Před rokem +4

    Branding rentals is one of those revolutionary concepts you wish you though of, it’s so obvious, but there it is.

  • @danielmfraser
    @danielmfraser Před rokem

    4:39 had to double take on the furniture moving there 😂

  • @xox14
    @xox14 Před rokem +5

    Great channel! more start up stories please!!!

  • @balajinarasimhan5346
    @balajinarasimhan5346 Před rokem +22

    my mom always say that if you earn something through shady means and the money which doesnt belong to you, It will not stick with you for long. I have seen that happen many times and im seeing it again now. What a nice time to invest in real estate properties!!

  • @waqaryousfi6504
    @waqaryousfi6504 Před rokem

    Great! Yes, could you share your insights about General Motors on their project of electric cars back in the 90s when Giant OIL COMPANIES halted GM from producing Electric Cars?

  • @jbalogh01
    @jbalogh01 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I used to drive by a building in the domain that one day had "wework", written on the top of the building. I never knew what it was about. About a year of driving by, the wework disappeared and the building was for lease.

  • @rustkitty
    @rustkitty Před rokem +50

    So it's yet another "landlord company masquerading as a tech company" scheme? Does Newman never learn?

    • @cloudbloodmusic
      @cloudbloodmusic Před rokem +3

      He won't learn until he becomes bankrupt with nothing to his name and he can't even get a job at a McDonald's

    • @triggeredlonda4317
      @triggeredlonda4317 Před rokem

      ​@@cloudbloodmusic hahaha he is

    • @triggeredlonda4317
      @triggeredlonda4317 Před rokem +1

      ​@@cloudbloodmusic he is already billionaire

    • @bahroum69
      @bahroum69 Před rokem +1

      Never learns? Like in "never learns how to make billions"? Well, sounds like he does.

    • @williamtimonen6814
      @williamtimonen6814 Před rokem

      @@bahroum69 He is probably going to earn more from this scheme than all this videos viewers will do combined in their lifetimes.

  • @TimothyHalleran
    @TimothyHalleran Před rokem +10

    This is my favorite video on Adam's new startup. Great analysis and deep dive.

  • @fcallum77
    @fcallum77 Před rokem

    Yeah, I remember watching your WeWork video. Come to think of it, there's a WeWork office on Colmore Row in Birmingham that I never really noticed until I did. At least the investors didn't get screwed over.

  • @TheAtl0001
    @TheAtl0001 Před rokem +4

    It is a public secret but nobody is allowed to say how this all is possible. He belongs to a particular group in society predominantly overrepresented in the financial world, and these members protect their position and each other.

  • @snakedoktor6020
    @snakedoktor6020 Před rokem +3

    Yet another video that makes you think. Great job sir. I noticed one issue with the spelling of Mark's last name, Andreeseen. At the 6:25 mark, when it comes up on screen, it appears as Anderseen. I don't know if it was there in the original video snippet, or if you added it, but it's incorrect.
    Other than that, great job...again.

  • @philfichtinger3009
    @philfichtinger3009 Před rokem +14

    Dagogo, your stuff is the sh*t! Thanks for that!

  • @bassmana2z686
    @bassmana2z686 Před rokem

    Thanks for the great content. Sub'd.🙂

  • @doyoulikeduckmeat
    @doyoulikeduckmeat Před rokem +1

    'Startups tend to find their footing on the 2nd 3rd or 4th try'
    My dad had a similar saying, 'through enough shit and it will eventually stick'.

  • @ddude27
    @ddude27 Před rokem +51

    I'd strongly disagree with McKeever Conwell's statement about the situation. If the company sucked in enough money from the public or was heavily involved with the public then anything bad happening to it would most likely affect everyone.
    I hate the statement that "we are just here to make money" because when an event like the depression or the great recession happens then somehow the argument turns into a really bad strawman argument like the public should have not invested in him then. What worries a ton is the lack of regulation from any organization to make sure that anything financial involved let alone this big gets looked thoroughly and ensures clearly who gets hurt in the event of something bad happening.
    Funny enough ClearTaxView's channel had a video on how bad as big as the IRS is at enforcing regulations let alone having the moral to keep to abide by laws themselves.

    • @perfectallycromulent
      @perfectallycromulent Před rokem +11

      "be a good person" is not explicit in the description of just about any job, but finance guys act like that's a license for immorality rather than realizing that the requirement transcends employment status.

    • @cloudbloodmusic
      @cloudbloodmusic Před rokem +2

      I don't think he was defending it tho. It seemed like he's just explaining why A16z was willing to give him money

    • @edwardroh89
      @edwardroh89 Před rokem

      @@perfectallycromulent finance people are the worst. They honestly are parasites to the economy because the only value they bring to the world is either to themselves or the company they work for. They bring no value to the economy. No products, not entertainment, no moral value. Parasitic capitalism.

    • @cdreid9999
      @cdreid9999 Před rokem

      under dubys they radically cut the irs tax atttorneys and auditers..the people who audit the rich. Abd obama and trump both approve of
      course. So the ira basically only has the ability togk after the lower classes whom it can bully ( trust me they can doanythi gthey want if youre not rich)

  • @Harvey017
    @Harvey017 Před rokem +83

    Since the start of the pandemic I’ve never witnessed so many new billionaires being born.

    • @KT-zc7lc
      @KT-zc7lc Před rokem +24

      While small business owners couldn't operate.

    • @monkeywrenchstudios3590
      @monkeywrenchstudios3590 Před rokem

      The plandemic you mean lmao took em months to react cause they were dumb and greedy. Saw COVID as an opportunity

    • @AmericanNope
      @AmericanNope Před rokem

      @@KT-zc7lc you get what’s happening. Those who already have the wealth want their corporate takeover of almost everything

    • @michaelambrose
      @michaelambrose Před rokem +9

      Adam was a billionaire long before the pandemic

    • @BiigiieCheeese
      @BiigiieCheeese Před rokem +13

      "billionaire being born" as if they didn't have old money to begin with. For every Jeff Bezos there are hundreds of Elon Musks who are basically gifted a golden spoon.

  • @teaguejelinek4038
    @teaguejelinek4038 Před rokem

    1:58 lmfao heyyy whoa slow down there shooter!

  • @weishenmejames
    @weishenmejames Před rokem

    Another quality video I'm also going to check out Nebula.

  • @Fezzy976
    @Fezzy976 Před rokem +40

    I love this channel, with this and Internet Historian I feel spoiled with some of the best content on the internet. Watching this content for free feels like I am committing theft.

    • @lowwastehighmelanin
      @lowwastehighmelanin Před rokem

      You could sub patreon if you really feel that way.

    • @BillShatner31
      @BillShatner31 Před rokem

      if you’re into soccer, Dagogo also has another channel called Football Iconic

  • @BM-wp7nh
    @BM-wp7nh Před rokem +4

    my guess is that the properties he bought got contracted to the flow company he created for free for a few year so that he could secure a major investment from a16z.
    a16z would then get a secure deal on getting a higher percentage of profit through renting without investing in property and Adam could always offload his properties in the future.
    A more happy scenario could be that with the properties he purchased he gives to people on a rent to own basis without paying a mortgage if they live within the ecosystem of flow or for a specific number of year. The reason of this is because the biggest struggle is getting a mortgage for rent.

  • @kalvinreese8387
    @kalvinreese8387 Před rokem

    Great upload thank you

  • @BrittanyGates
    @BrittanyGates Před rokem +2

    Sounds like Flow is going to combine HOA communities and Property Management together. Will it work? Probably, if they market it toward renters who want an all-in-one luxury living package.

  • @Bizarro69
    @Bizarro69 Před rokem +21

    The older I get the more I feel like this world was made for the rich.
    Maybe we're in a simulation created by a quintillionaire and they're living through all the rich people and enjoying seeing the poor struggle.

    • @18booma
      @18booma Před rokem +12

      The world is built for the rich by the poor. First it was monarchy and now it's capitalism. Neither of these systems are for the prosperity of those who work. They're for the prosperity of those who own stuff.

    • @moneyobsessed
      @moneyobsessed Před rokem

      @@18booma cries in hunter gatherer.

    • @borginburkes1819
      @borginburkes1819 Před rokem

      It wasn’t like this before the Industrial Revolution. Africans may live in mud huts but they’re all content and happy

    • @cdreid9999
      @cdreid9999 Před rokem

      read some history. It always was

    • @cristianrezende5513
      @cristianrezende5513 Před rokem +1

      @@18booma how do u think Jeff Bezos, Bill gates, Ellon Musk became rich? they WORKED. Meanwhile u are just blaming the system for your own failure.

  • @EmperorBun
    @EmperorBun Před rokem +28

    Privilege in action. Think of all of the 350 other actually decent companies A16z could have invested $1M apiece into, and instead all that is flowing into the pockets of a man-child who almost single-handedly obliterated billions of shareholder value. Nobody else gets this kind of leeway in society

    • @alanjenkins1508
      @alanjenkins1508 Před rokem +3

      You can hire fewer financial people if you lend out larger amounts of money at a time. The theory is I think that you can hire the best, at huge salaries no doubt, who will make fewer investment mistakes. Unfortunately this is not the reality, but does lead to the rich getting richer and the middle economy which drives most economic growth being deprived of capital.

    • @joela.4058
      @joela.4058 Před rokem +2

      Well these people are apart of a very exclusive group of people that like to shuffle money exclusively between themselves

  • @jeng8401
    @jeng8401 Před rokem

    Oh ‘em gee I just applied for a job at Flow on LinkedIn. I had no idea he was behind it. Thank you for helping me dodge that bullet.

  • @adaption196
    @adaption196 Před rokem +5

    I think renters are really getting screwed left right and now by Adam too, a snake is a snake

  • @victorrosberg1919
    @victorrosberg1919 Před rokem +5

    Incredible. Crazy to think any investors would take on this kind of risk now; I´m sure money will Flow in but I doubt much will flow back out...

  • @887knight
    @887knight Před rokem

    What's the song at the very beginning of the video? Is it one you made?

  • @vincent4384
    @vincent4384 Před rokem

    very educational!!

  • @mikeschmitty4438
    @mikeschmitty4438 Před rokem +31

    Clearly having no conscious is the #1 personality trait to remain in the billionaires club

    • @laurenconrad1799
      @laurenconrad1799 Před rokem +4

      That and being white.

    • @HostileTakeover555
      @HostileTakeover555 Před rokem

      @@laurenconrad1799 🙄 give me a break. There are many VC funds that cater ONLY to POC out there. Maybe the problem is that POC aren’t developing enough viable products…

    • @jbhann
      @jbhann Před rokem

      @@laurenconrad1799 …white? Don’t be so blind to the truth which is right in front of you. And if you think all it takes for a person to be successful is to be white, then why are majority of people who are living in poverty in the US…white? And for the truth…he’s not white.

  • @butters1273
    @butters1273 Před rokem +20

    Adam: I suck at this.
    Some people for some reason: GIVE HIM MORE 💸

  • @hydrohasspoken6227
    @hydrohasspoken6227 Před rokem

    Wish you all the best Adam.

  • @creedolala6918
    @creedolala6918 Před rokem

    I enjoy this channel. The topics are interesting and the presentation is fairly professional. A few tweaks to the writing could bring it to the next level. Avoid exaggerating words, cliches, and the misuse of literally, EG "It's literally all smoke and mirrors". And resist the urge to oversimplify complex topics to fit a narrative. EG describing the flow investment as "throwing money at something that doesn't even exist". VC (borrowing from Harvard Business review) "buys a stake in an entrepreneur’s idea, nurtures it for a short period of time, and then exits with the help of an investment banker." It is a gamble, but it's not an uncalculated or careless one.

  • @jumboshrimp5193
    @jumboshrimp5193 Před rokem +4

    "It's one big club and you ain't in it."
    - George Carlin

  • @mbuhplus7800
    @mbuhplus7800 Před rokem +11

    Amazing, everytime he fails, he becomes a new man

  • @stevenfinch2547
    @stevenfinch2547 Před rokem +1

    the comparison to Alfred is just crazy. He is just building a REIT!

  • @obsideon1343
    @obsideon1343 Před rokem

    So renting apartments/homes with some level of services like a doorman, gardeners, cooks and concierge service. Things you get in NYC and LA.

  • @olaowo5
    @olaowo5 Před rokem +3

    The Maverick at failing upwards. He is a legend.

  • @LupoGalante
    @LupoGalante Před rokem +4

    The term unicorn has been misapplied to so many ventures which are just pure speculation based on securing funding and debt then a slick marketing campaign to convince a consumer market that it needed this product all along. Wework and Flow are not really anthing different to say a building management company like Regus but the inspirational marketing around their trite landlord idea influences consumption based on the dim perception that something is vaguely different and therefore that must be a positive experience.

    • @loupasternak
      @loupasternak Před rokem

      When there are 20,000 ShiteCoins and worthless tokens with billions, nothing is sacred. We live in insane times

  • @ngc248
    @ngc248 Před rokem +4

    oh dear ... if only we could fail upwards like dear ol' Adam