SHADOW AND BONE Season 2 Ending Explained!
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- In this video we take a deep dive, review, recap and explain the ending to Netflix's fantasy epic Shadow and Bone Season 2.
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Season 3 if they don’t cancel the show, they better not
I like the season 2 and show too
there won't be a third season it seems
It was pretty good, I really need a S3 where alina is not such a big bad ,we need the crows ,and their storys.
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I want a spin-off series about the Crows only. Constantly overlapping stories with the Shadow and Bone characters just leads to rushing storylines for the other characters.
Kaz is my favorite this season. An incredible character and his dynamic with Inej.
Frrr the only thing that pisses me off is the fact he let a bad bitch 😩 slip right through his fingers (jk) but seriously get ur woman or else I will 🥴
Mine as well
Mine too!
I genuinely thought he was the main character, he's also very strategic
@@wisdomgozieimade1083 the writers sidelined Alina to make Kaz the main character - and rushed and destroyed her books to force the next step to be the ice heist no matter what
As a fan of the books, I really had to treat Season 2 like fan-fiction. I thought it was rushed and crowded, but still enjoyed it. The cast is really marvelous, and I found the characterization stayed true to the books even while the plot seriously drifted.
I'm superhoping either Six of Crows gets its own spinoff, or Season 3 deals extensively with the plot of Six of Crows, since the Crows are my absolute favorite.
I agree, didn't like how they just shoved the important moments that suppose to happen in Crooked Kingdom.
I agree and I really hope there will be a third season. Can't shake the feeling that they packed this season just because they are not sure if they get another.
I'm not into books but I felt the same way when I watched the 2nd season. It felt rushed and crowded.
Same thoughts on the season.
Agreed. I absolutely adore the books and I get that a lot of us book fans are disappointed that certain moments in the books happened earlier than they were supposed to(not to mention this season was pretty crowded), but I'm honestly not super bothered by it. The show and the books are pretty separate. And that should be recognized the moment the Crows became part of season 1. I hope we get our SoC spinoff and everyone's criticisms are def valid, but the show and the books are NOT the same. For better and for worse.
It was good. Not enough Nina and Matthias content. Mal is still a block of wood. Freddy Carter and Ben Barnes act circles around everyone .
yup freddy and ben barnes carried the acting. which is why Kaz probably my favorite crow in the series.
Ben Barnes has found his niche, good guys that turn out to be bad and get scarred faces (The Punisher and Shadow and Bone)
Yes. All of this. Especially the Mal comment.
But also im looking forward to Mals privateer life.
Ben Barnes is so damn good
I think Alina turned out to be very selfish. She used Mal as a crutch instead of treating him as an equal. It was selfish to resurrect him. I don't think she really knows what she wants. She's not a very emotionally complex character at all. I appreciated Ben Barne's ability to communicate a plethora of emotions in a matter of seconds.
I'm not ready for nina, and Mathias' future, but at the same time I can't wait for the ice court heist, and nina's journey.
i always thought their love is a bit forced
Yah grp of mal i think will b joining her
I am only interested in their story line, and they are barely on it😭
i wasnt really disspointed with this season, bec even tho a lot was changed they did a great job imo, but the one thing that i really missed was matthias as a part of the crows and on ninas side... like so far weve never seen them as a team of six, and that just feels wrong 😭
Why spoil?
Nikolai was definitely the best character this season!!!🤴🖤
Better than Kirigan?! Comon no sense
The best character is and always will be Baghra!
@@almightysaitama770 yes.. all of the characters are rather bland, except the crows, darkling and alina only towards the end of season.
no, he's a lap dog to alina without his own mind sadly.
@@almightysaitama770 he is more awesome in the books in the books he invented a hot air balloon and he has a flying ship that rainsdowne guns and bombs down on the darkling when he attacked the palace something that was cut out of the show.
My only complaints (nitpicking tbh) was the storyline for the crows were rushed especially the reveal of Jespers ability and kaz's revenge, other than that I liked this season
Well if they gave them even more time - it would pract. become 6 of crows show. 😜
But i guess i get it, both their story (crows) and acting is better than primary cast.
Jespers ability was hinted at in the first season what with his supernatural gunslinging etc
I'm a non-reader, as in I haven't read the books (yet), but I've thoroughly enjoyed both seasons and found nothing exceptionally hard to follow plot-wise. I adore all the characters, especially Kaz, and love the dynamic of the Crows above all else. I swear if Netflix doesn't renew this for at least another season I am absolutely done with them as a company. The amount of online buzz this show and fandom has been generating cannot be ignored.
If you ever want to read a series from this universe try the Six of Crows doulogy! It’s just about the crows.
Yeah Netflix has a plague where they are notorious for canceling shows after season 2. I’ll be really bummed out if it doesn’t get renewed.
be prepared to not know wth is going on if you read the books, since the Crows aren't in the original trilogy; I can't even remember if they met Alina, let alone were sent to grab her (I read the S&B trilogy, then Six of Crows/Crooked Kingdom, then King of Scars/Rule of Wolves)
also, it appears that Mal was made the Dread Pirate Roberts of the Grishaverse and I don't remember that part in the books
You should be greatful , when ordinary people can watch tv show without comparing with the book and been salty about it
You will not like Alina and Mal if you read the book.
The Crows outshined everyone this season, the angst between Kaz and Inej ❤️🔥. I loved that they incorporated Shu han early on, and we're gonna see Ice court heist with Jurda parem involved in the next season. I missed some scenes from the books like the whole firebird hunting scene, and also how Aleksander and Alina having a heartfelt moment as he dies where he asks her to remember him by his true name, there hasn't been any interaction between Zoya and Nikolai, and yes I need our Demon King but he better not look like a nichevoya!! They completely killed Fedyor this season 🤣, and Tolya definitely has a crush on Inej. It was a good season and I e joyed it but yes, really looking forward to next season
Crows members are better than the main characters.
@@eyesagainsthide235 LITERALLY! Like, I always eagerly awaited the Crows storyline, but lost interest when the 'main' plot came back
She is now the Darkling and maybe she will understand Alexander now.
Just a correction about jurda and jurda parem from the SoC book- jurda (the plant) grows in Novyi Zem (not the Shadow Fold) in abundance and is exported to the rest of the world, so in Shu Han an Alkemi order Grisha named Bo Yul-Bayur accidentaly created the jurda parem drug (there's a reason why he did it, but I don't want to spoil too much) and then the Fjerdans kidnapped him because they want the drug to control and torture Grishas... Vladim had nothing to do with creation of it, he actually made a powdered amplifier from Baghra's liitle finger (one of Baghra's powers is that she is an amplifier herself and when she touches a Grisha, their powers become stronger, Darkling had the same power)
@@snowshock8958 Me too! Everything up until that point was backed up with correct information...
Also, who is Kesh? I’ve listened to the audiobooks of Six of Crows and Crooked Kingdom multiple times and mever heard that name once… I liked seeing the books made into film but it’s not the same story or characters. Can’t have your cake and eat it too, I suppose
wait why did bo yul-bayur make jurda parem i forget
@@elcar659 so his son kuwei could use it to suppress his grisha powers and be able to hide from the shu government in plain sight… it didn’t work like he intended
Isnt vladim gonna be one of the sun summoner since alina lost her power when she destroy the fold
The Darkling.
The best thing is and always will be The. Darkling.
Thank you... honestly his poorly written and uncharacteristic rage aside, he makes more sense as a character than Alina.
@@melchiorlise2466 in the books he was a lot more terrifying because he was cold calculating and smart his emotional outbursts of rage were kept at Bay and minimal cuz he can't control over. his emotions like I normal person would who is cold and calculating he has three hundred years of. Experience and knows human nature by heart that's what medium terrifying is because he knew exactly what you would do and he use. Alina like a literal video camera so he could plan an attack on the castle and he won he succeeded he beat Nikolai.
He gave the sense of hopelessness because he was always five steps ahead because he had so much World experience.
Thank God it was canceled. I don’t know if you saw but Christina strain was bragging on social media about how much she was going to destroy this character even more. Somehow they charge for fighting demons in the word and she was going to use it to invalidate the entire backstory, invalidate his trauma, I just turned him into a flat caricature. Combine that with the show runners bashing the character in interviews and using phrases that book mouth to describe him instead, yeah thank goodness it’s done
I normally hate most resurrections but I really want to see Aleksander return. (Mainly because I just love a Ben Barnes. Lol) It would be interesting seeing them work together(albeit reluctantly for Alina).
In the books though he did.
@@sssstgump In a different body though.
@@adventurekitty101 Nikolai's perhaps?
@@thespiritphoenix3798 IDK. Probably. I never read the books. I did do some minor research.
Same here felt like it a fanfiction made by those who wishes different outcome for the darkling intermix with the books can't wait for season 3 too
I have mixed feelings about this season to be honest. There were episodes I absolutely loved and there were things that made no sense, like Mal and Alina s relationship. And what about killing off the Darkling...I havent read the books yet but hope he returns, Ben Barnes is amazing
Read the book read the book because they destroy the entire three books within a matter of eight episodes and season 2
what is the problem with Mal & Alina? I know in the books they get married but yes americans destroyed that also because geez is not like they knew each other for their entire lives 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
@@kissofarose100 in the book's their romance was built up it wasn't because he was an amplifier. That fact cane later that mystery that search. Came later in the third book and it had nothing to do.
Whether their love was real or not because he was an amplifier and amplifier just amplifies your abilities at just made him good at tracking. There was nothing special be on that they knew their love was real it wasn't fake. It wasn't because of mouse amplification the only benefit of his.
Being an amplifier was he was a good tracker Alina got nothing from it. Mel had to die in order for Alena to get something from it.
@@kissofarose100 it’s just that they seemed very in love with each other and then they just got separated like that…
@@wolfbane7497 😢😢😢😢
Edit: That part I wrote about S3 aged like milk...
This season felt like a major step down from Season 1 in my opinion. Kirigan went from feeling like a complex, real person who's become a villain to feeling like a mustache twirling, cartoonish bad guy. It's through no fault of Ben Barnes, it's just apparent that the writing was lacking in comparison to season 1. That said, I absolutely adored everything with The Crows. Nikolai was a very welcome addition to the show as well. The actors are all fantastic. Here's hoping Season 3's writing lives up to the cast's potential.
The fault was purely on the script. The writers full heartedly admitted they wanted to destroy his character completely. They wanted to remove all nuance and complexity to destroy him. Christina Strain even went so far as to vindictively try to destroy his backstory - demon in the Wood. She happily wanted to invalidate his trauma. Imagine if one of the riders had admitted they wanted to remove Kaz’s trauma and make him French kiss a random person…..same kind of wtf?
Major disrespect for the character and half the fan base.
Overall I felt season 2 was great. Kept me watching til the end really hoping they make a season 3.
Loooved it.
Only let down was seeing how soon Mal wanted to run away from Alina after being almost separated forever. Just weird, a normal couple after all that anguish and terror wouldn’t let each other out of sight after going through something like that, definitely not run away to adventure.
Yeah I don't know what the writers were thinking
I think it might be because Mal could feel that there’d been something wrong as to how Alina was able to bring him back. It was made clear in the scene that Alina used Merzost to bring him back to life, and the immediate reaction from Mal’s face was a little off and seemed somehow he knew the consequences of what she had done.
He can't feel their connection anymore because he isn't an amplifier now, so he doesn't know if his feelings were ever true. He needs to have his own life and see if there love is true or manipulated, makes sense. He needs his own life
@@aizabcede5741 Even Nina seemed to sense that something was wrong
@@hevsreids6989 perfectly said
Okay is it me or was the gun slinger the hero of the show am sorry but he gave me life in every scene he was in
Jesper and Weylan saved this season for me. Plus they were so cute together. 😘
Agreed! His humor saved the day also!
Jesper is his name, he’s a really fun and beloved character especially as one of the more lighthearted ones alongside Wylan and Nina.
Jesper season 1 and 2 gold so funny I laughed a lot and his character brought I think comic relief agreed ! 💛
I loved Jesper. My favourite character.
You forgot Jespar's revelation of his metal controlling powers.
Not just metal. He's a durast. A grisha who can manipulate physical materials, like David kostyk
@@benarkos539 I was just about to google a Durast cause I was wondering how that made him different from other Grisha
Nikolai is my favorite in this season I hope they won't spoil his good heart
I loved the casting of Wylan, he's the cutest thing ever.
I've never read the books but I felt betrayed. Why would my guy Kirigan had to die so Alina to become evil anyway? And she's not even with Mal. The dude smelled the freedom and decided to flee right away.
She and Kirigan could actually be great couple. Now, when she is as powerful as him, they could've been the perfect balance.
I really love the second season....just hope that #Netflix won't cancelled it!
I don't think they will cancel it. Currently, Shadow and Bone season 2 is rated number 1 in 36 countries and it is in the Top 10 for over 80 more countries. Seems like a lot of people are watching it right now.
@@jackklnet2458 doesn't matter. Netflix has no fcking logic even if its praised by the queen of England they still might cancel it
@@jackklnet2458 are they enjoying it though?
I didn't like season 2 much but really liked season 1.
Similar to alchemy of souls for me.. both season 2s fell flat on their faces for me.
BUT will say I'm still interested in a season 3 IF they can recapture the magic in their respective 1st seasons.
@@CZcamsCensors The reviews seem to be mixed. However, looks like there are more positive reviews between cinema critics and audiences. You are correct though, season 1 was definitely better.
They better not cancel it.
Light and Darkness always need each other bc one can't exist without the other. Even Sailor Moon had to accept - that the universe could never exist without both light and dark.
If darling is dead and Netflix didn’t bring him back I’m throwing hands ! Alina and darkling are meant to be !
the bee at the funeral. He asking to bei burnt so nothing ist keft of him ... maybe because He would come Back? they waited to long and know He is a been😅😂
No they aren’t. He’s dead. Get over it 😂
Amen! I need Ben Barnes back, he was it for me in this show, the reason why I watched it, and I love the Darkling. If he's not back, I ain't gonna watch it sorry, not sorry.
@@xeonbladev18 if you think he won't be back u clearly haven't read the books ;)
@@rollingthunder7919 I’ve read them. Either way darklina isn’t a thing. It’s a villain fanfic fetish. Not canon in the books either lol
Thanks a bunch! That’s all I do now… I just wait for “Ending Explained” videos for movies & series & im good! 🤣🤣 I just skipped hours of binge watching, which I love! Much appreciate the recap!
🤣😘👍
Shadow and done
My favorite ships are under threat! I need to calm myself. This season was so cramped, yet still enjoyable. Love the chemistry between the actors! Excited for next season!
And which ones are they - your fav. ships?
@@mar.s6516 Inej and Kaz. Nikolai and Zoya. It looks like they're setting up love triangles for next season.
Shadow and DONE... I love it 😂
Is anyone else worried about that smile at the end?
yup he became like darkling - he has lived 400 yrs he knew it would eventually come, as a cost of her naivety, unlike kirigan - the cost of his idealistic utilitarian of saving grisha. different motivation but sadly merzost doesn’t care 😂
Who's smile?
Darkling will come back next season. Im glad although i love the characters added specially Wylan and Nikolai. Gosh those two are gorgeous af. But still ben barnes is the big daddy. 😂🤭 Hell be back resurrected from that darn bee that flew in that grishas shoulder during gen kerrigans funeral. A new saint trapped in the fold will resurrect him.
I just don’t get how those three are supposed to show up because they’re supposed be trapped in the fold but the fold isn’t there anymore. What’s the point of Yuri
@@kyneilen but its not going to be Ben Barnes though. Massive loss.
@@darthplagueis8886 very unlikely
No he won’t. (1) Ben said he was done playing the villain. And good because those showrunners did everything to ruin his charcter Ben deserved better. (2) Leigh bardugo said that jurda parem and the Darkling cannot co-exist
Awesome explained 👌🏻
I read the second book and actually think they did a good job adapting it, not everything is going to be exact. The biggest let down was in the book everyone revered the sun summoner a lot more, in the show there was only one scene of them blocking the bazaar street to let them escape. It should have had that reverence with everyone she came across like the book.
I hope in that Book, i hope Kirigan will have his revenge!
Be managed to completely destroy the story with in the matter of season 2 that is a momentous accomplishment destroying an entire story a series of books with in the matter of two seasons and eight episodes I'm impressed on how dumb these writers are
@@almightysaitama770 not only does he get his revenge he was able to find a Lena within the first. Chapter within the boat showing how much I thought uncle and intelligent and scary he is. And throughout the whole story Alina think that seeing the darkling is like a hallucination from. The trauma of him using her to expand the the fold and she slowly starts to realize it's not a hallucination he's literally watching everything that she does. And is using her like a camera so he can launch an attack on the palace and he is very successful at doing.
It he completely crush Alina and her army like it was nothing the nichevo'ya. Are brutal and destructive and he uses them effectively because he's able to control them because they are a part of him he's. Literally shaving off years of his immortal Life to make these creatures.
In real life, not everyone would be a true believer (especially not for one faith), so the show is just being realistic.
@@pmpowalisz well here's the thing we didn't ask for realistic we ask for the adoption of the book not someone's fanfiction
I love how they melded the crows to the shadow ,and bone!
My theory is that I think alina has both powers now since countless times shows have shown darkness ,and light need to both co exist plus in the book alina did get some dark powers# sorry for spoilers.
I think I she lost her sun powers and gained dark magic but she will have to set thing right if she want them back
I want Kirigan back! I want to see him and Alina happy!
I mean in the last book I think she was able to briefly tap into Kirigans powers due to their connection, so it would make sense?
I literally posted the same thing on another video 😂😂😂😂
@@almightysaitama770 girl shut up
everybody did an awesome job! My favorite however to see more the character of the great king to see how love endures and overcme suffering, for love and friendship!
I haven't read the books,but something is making me root for Mathias.I actually wanna see more of him
I have a bad news for you my friend.
@@firebreathingb1tchqueen Omg 😭😭, tell me he is not gonna die
@@keneilwemosia530 you have to find it out yourself.... ;)
@@keneilwemosia530 he just doesn’t have a lot of scenes, he doesn’t have any with the rest of the cast except for a few with Nina
Read the book you'll like it a whole lot better
I CAME HERE BECAUSE I WAS SHOCKED THAT ALINA'S CUT WAS DARK, like wow, i have just finished it and i cant believe really. They did an amazing job.
Lol, same I remembered I exclaimed so loud like 😮 my mum asking me what was going on ?? And I replied "nothing, sorry it's just a TV show 😂"
With this such strong dichotomy writers imposed on season 2 about Darkling and Alina, I didn't expect they will turned Alina like the Darkling.
Very curious to see how all of this will be explained in season 3.
I read the first book before the first season was released and I didn't like the book but loved the series. I didn't read sequels because of that (the show is a better version of bookwith more content, I thought), went straight to season 2 and I liked what I saw. But then I heard that second season cut a lot, and now I want to read the books. So I have an interesting relationship with this frinchise.
While the trilogy of the series is the least liked of the Grishaverse, it's still a good trilogy. Six of Crows might be more of your cup of tea, but if you're completionist like me lol, you might want to read them chronologically. A lot of the events in the second season do not happen in the books. Only certain parts, scenes and some lines.
This season crammed up 3 books in 8 episodes..
I can tell you there are so many scenes, battles and storylines that didn't get in and are worth checking out in my opinion.
Everyone usually agrees that the crows' books are better than Alina's so if one day you start book 2 and don't like it enough, give a chance to the Six of Crows duology because that one is worth it
i just read the shadow and bone trilogy in a week before s2 came out. the tv series omitted a lot of what happens in the books, and altered several plot scenes as well, but the series s2 ending were infinitely better than the book triology ending. I also really really like how they skipped several alina vs darkling battles as it got way too redundant in the books (that was my main problem with the trilogy) instead , they saved their confrontation at the end. the tv series may have failed at building up tensions for the twists, but still imo, the s2 ran far enjoyable than the trilogy bc the writers knew what was wrong with the shadow and bone trilogy. the mal/alina/darkling storyline were lacklauster and the amplifiers plot lines were just 'there'. the crows made the s1 and s2 far more enjoyable than they are. the writers knew that shadow and bone without the crows and more on alina/mal/darkling wouldnt survive for one season.
I thought the Shadow and Bone trilogy was really boring, just stereotypical YA fantasy with Alina being a very clear self-insert character. I suffered through all three books before reading Six of Crows duology, which I can easily say is one of my favorite book series of all time. I think the show is way more interesting than the books for the Alina storyline, so I honestly don't recommend reading it. Alina as a character is way more interesting in the show, and Mal in the books is straight up insufferable, whereas he is also great in the show.
I think it made sense for them to cut a lot from that trilogy because they were very slow paced and Sturmhond/Nikolai was probably the only interesting part of it. I think that there is a good argument that the pacing of this season was really fast considering they covered two books plus the Crows storyline in only eight episodes, but I think the solution to that would have been more character moments/development, not including more from the books.
I want to see evil characters and good one’s together and happy like in Vampires Dieres. I want to see Kirigan and Alina against the world!!!
I want to see darkling return
Oh don't worry he'll be back because in the spin-off series of Nikolai spoilers he comes fucking back because some God shows up a woman a dragon in a bird shows up and bring them the fuck back even though his body was burned
@@wolfbane7497 Damn
@@wolfbane7497 he’s not coming back. Ben is done playing villains. He said so in an interview 2 months ago. Eric Heisserer ruining the charcter and slandering him everytime was too much
@@ullamorozova well I'm glad he has a brain
as I have never read the books, I loved this show more than I was thinking I would. The acting and cast were good. I am looking forward to the next season!
Alina's smile at the end was menacing
Made more sense how Alina Amplified in the fold the first time, mal was an amplifier
Mal is not just a distant relative to the darkling but is his 2nd degree. Mal came from the bloodline of the sister of Kirigan's mom.
But Mal is aaamm, young, while darkling and his mum are 100 years old. So he's a distant cousin. Mal said in the season that the Firebird has been passed around for generations
Nice review
All actors were great! Love how they brought to life their characters. Except maybe for Alina. 🤔
I wanted more of Mathias and Nina instead of Mal and Alina. Alina became more interesting but Mal? Well, chewing cardboard would be more interesting than Mal.
Overall I love the season. My favourite was the fight against the darkling's minions.
Good thing it got cancelled since Eric Heisserer and Christina strain kept talking about wanting to do more with Mal in s3 and onwards…. No mention of Alina. They only cared about the crows and their new ooc version of mal. Malina caused the cancellation - i and several others skipped his parts
@@ullamorozova did it really get cancelled? 😞😞😞 I wanted more seasons
@@jeremyheartriter2.063 Yep. 100% cancelled. Stat nerds had predicted possible cancellation ever since the end of the first month. It was officially cancelled in October or November. Honestly? We dodged a bullet. One of the writers “joked” about making Inej be in a relationship with Tolya and another writer bragged about ruining the trilogy charcters. It was just as bad as the Witcher’s writers room
Very interesting commentary❤❤
Team crow did incredible job
If only Alina was played by diff capable actor, this would have been the best series. Loved the series.
oh thought i was the only one. mal & alina acting cant carry the complexity of the stories imho
ikr
So i wasn't the only one. I just can't make myself to care about them.
True
I wasn't a big fan of the actress playing Alina. She doesn't possess complex emotions and she doesn't have any graceful vulnerability that balances out her strong will. I don't know why Nicolai is attracted to her. Ben Barnes and the crows really carried the show. The editing was marvelous as well.
This is such a great show.... finale was really sad but I can't wait for season 3!
As someone who loves the books I have mixed feelings. I absolutely loved this season and hope for another season (please, all of you, binge watch it so Netflix does not cancel it!) but only if I watch it as an independent story and not as an book adaption
I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO ZOYALAI
They’re never gonna let this girl win 💀. S1- she didn’t know she was a summoner. S2- she was trying to get strong enough all season. S3- she’s gonna struggle finding balance in her power. Leave Ravka alone man- let them have 1 good reign 😭
But also 2 things could happen in the same time I hope she will be a good ruler, but I think ppl will fear her, even be terrorized a bit like the Darkling. But agreed 100% if she's just a bad ruler I will be so disappointed.
please, let genya have something good for once 😭😭😭
-Me at Liegh Bardugo
I'm ngl this show reminds me of avatar the last airbender alot, aleena is the avatar who can stop all the war but instead of all four elements its light magic, the fold is basically the fire nation attacking everything in its path, Alexander is basically the fire lord lol
I just think that not following the book is a good thing. It will keep you guessing and wanting to see more.
Yeah how about no the whole reason why you adapt a show is because obviously people loved the books they wanted the books adapted onto the screen but to change everything and literally get rid of the main plot of the show within a matter of season 2 1/8 episodes is a WTF.
They change people's characters change their motivation. they just change and change and change for no reason. Oh there is a reason is because every fantasy show has to be game of thrones. Ever since that goddamn show by George Martin everything has to be game of thrones.
People obviously loved the books and wanted to see the show. And that's what I expect when you're adapting a book series. I expect the book series just on the big screen not anything and everything you put into the show just because. Reasons change people's motivations change people's characters change people's position within the story just because I say so.
I didn't sign up for your fanfic Mickey mouse bulshit I came for the books. I came for you to adapt the books onto the big screen not your fanfiction.
i hope ben barnes is in s3 tho
He’s not. Ben is done and said he won’t play villains again. The showrunners shafted him
Update: not only did the writers shaft him, they went on multiple interviews to slander the character and spit on the fan base. Not satisfied with that, the producers hired an anti from Tiktok -who was well known for orchestrating “Slander Sundays” against not just his character but also the actor himself - TO BE THE HOST OF THE PREMIER. Ben Barnes had to awkwardly and uncomfortably reply that he knew who she was…
And if that wasn’t enough, the showrunners gave one of the biggest anti and darkling haters the opportunity to write his backstory of Demon in the Wood. After they made sure to invalidate the entirety of DitW in s2 with the Baghra finger scenes. They mocked and invalidated DitW…
LOVED Jespar and Wylan!! Definitely my favorites this season. I could just watch an entire show of them having a happy life and sharing many adventures together. Also, Genyas storyline was so tragic, it was hard to watch, but also very gripping. Only person who made me cry this season was her
Heard there is a spin off 'six of crow' hope full we get to see jasper and wylan some more
Looks like Mal was just a means to an end all along as a firebird drawn to Alina. His bloodline kept alive by dark magic - twice! I can understand from his pov, now reborn without tracking abilities whether his connection with Alina was even real. Everything Alex has said to Alina is starting to unfold. She denies it because she hasn't got hindsight of 100's of years of the politics and Grisha suffering. She has now dabbled in Merzost and she doesn't know at what cost. I believe she is entering a darker arc. Alina will realise she needs Alex in the future - not the royal family to find her balance. Alex may have redemption arc by helping her after his 'resurrection'.
Politics? Complexity? We had that in s1 but definitely not in s2.
The writers full heartedly admitted they wanted to destroy Darkling’s character completely. They wanted to remove all nuance and complexity to simply destroy him. Christina Strain even went so far as to vindictively try to twist his backstory - demon in the Wood. She happily wanted to invalidate his trauma. Imagine if one of the writers had admitted they wanted to remove Kaz’s trauma and make him French kiss a random person in an orgy…..same kind of wtf?
Major disrespect for the character and half the fan base.
Loved season 2! I also thought it was packed but it was exciting to see all the cast together. The actors have such good chemistry on screen. Read the books but also love the show
Didn't even hear of the books, but I love the series, watched twice already just to pick up on background reactions, which are really fun. And the fact that the writer is billed first as a producer gives me the impression that it's a chance for her to reimagine her work and make the grishaverse more connected through blending together storylines and characters.
I haven't read the books, but I really enjoyed both season and am really hoping for a third! Maybe because I have not read the books this did not feel rushed to me, though certainly full.
I love Nina and Matthias! I hope they have their HEA. I like Nikoli and I kinda love the triangle between him, Alina and Mal. He would also be a good match for Alina.
i also prefer their connections than jasper & wylan. a bit forced to fit in the show
I really loved the show, I hope we get another season. Great character development all around.
There was no character development for the trilogy charcters. They were the same as the end of s1. Static charcters due to bad scripts
We forget that Kirigan's hand was cut off? They didn't burn that did they? What happened to it?
Smart!!! Maybe Vladin took it
if I remember correctly, it disappeared when baghra cut it off, just left the bones from the amplifiers?
This never happened in the books. Thankfully the series was canceled so we will not get to see the writers attack and destroy the character like they did in season two. Recently, one writer even stated how she was out to destroy Darkling‘s characterization backstory and any complexity about him. It’s sad.
@@kayw9235 I hope it never gets used or shown again. A tacky Star Wars rip off. And the show runners and writers have made their hatred for this character well-known. Recently, Christina strain even admitted on Twitter that she was out to destroy this character his complexity and even his backstory. She wanted to invalidate his trauma as well, just turned him into a mustache twirling flat caricature
@@ullamorozova yes I think shadow and none doesn’t need another season but I wanted them to film six of crows
Loved the show really hope netflix keeps it going
Alina's makeup kinda changed too.. previously it made her look like a child, someone full of hope.. at the coronation, she still looks happy, but her vibes (?), the air around her, kinda seems like that of the darkling..
Hey Think Story, can you please do a ending explained on Luther: The Fallen Sun.
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My favorite character this season is Kaz and I don't believe Kirigan is truly dead from what's going on he won't just let alina be victimized by the way the mirazot did to him cause if there is one thing that he never lied on, its his feelings, his love for alina, he truly do loved her seeing how he tries to control the nichivoia to keep them at bay from attacking her, his last act of love for her before he dies at her own hands and for me alina feels the same she's just afraid to acknowledge it for the complication it carried along by acknowledging it. She's just in love at the idea of being in love with Mal for safety reasons, she's quit ambitious herself secretly. Kirigan use the Mirazort out of pain for his people and losing the woman he loved cause of prosecution of their race and he dies for the reason of love for a woman from his own race, one died protecting him out of love yet the other killed him cause of hate and fear for the love she denies that she felt for him despite of the this he had done
Thanks for the recap. I enjoyed season 2 but the battle that raged for all of S1 and 7 episodes of S2, ended very quickly in the finale. That conclusion felt rushed. Also, the coronation scene just felt tacky to me. They could have done something else other than having the guests spit up blood. Was just dumb looking. Maybe show one person but it felt like it went on forever. And Alina’s heel turn felt forced. Ok, she used dark magic to bring back Mal but it still felt rushed.
Not sure Netflix will bring this back. It feels a lot like Warrior Nun to me. Great reviews, lots of initial hours watched and made the top ten lists. But it is, as was WN, a special effects heavy show…ie, expensive, and unless it has some staying power with viewers, Netflix will likely not renew it.
Alina is just a hypocrite and is attracted to almost every new man. Also , thought the engagement was a temporary fake thing ,yet now she becomes the queen,while still waiting for Mal to find his way back to her.
I dont know or read the book
I binged watched 1 and 2 seasons in two days
And that ending is not something i expected
It seems like she has turned evil and she liked it
Just saw the news they didn't renew a season 3. ALAS! Would have been an interesting starting point.
The ad for "real therapy" before this video was perfect. I need therapy after that season. I was so angry I couldn't speak when I finished it.
This was such a great show! I can’t wait for season 3!
I haven’t read the books but I think Shadow and Bone is a great series and definitely worth bingeing. Casting was great, acting on point, and the writing was satisfactory. I definitely enjoyed all the twist and turns during the entire series. It’s such a shame Netflix discontinued it. I think they should rethink their decision and reconsider having atleast 4 seasons. So much wasted potential if ever.
“Shadow and Done”.
I see what you did there 😏
I'm disappointed it didn't follow the books.
Whats in the book?
@@lionchris4165 do you want spoilers?
@@ravinialee269 i finished the series but if you're talking about the book didn't they change the series instead following the book? Can you tell me what part did they change?
@@lionchris4165 one of the biggest was the Hellgate (where Matthias is currently imprisoned) plotline.
*spoilers*
Nina doesn't visit alone; rather with the rest of the crows, because they want him to take part in a heist where they infiltrate Fjerda's White Palace in order to find Bo Yul-Bayur, the creator of the jurda parem which was used by a heartrender (likely sent from Fjerda) who infiltrated the coronation and mentioned by Kaz during episode 8. All of this takes place in Six of Crows, a book that takes place a few years after the events of the Shadow and Bone trilogy
@@lionchris4165 in the book Alina loses her powers while taking down the fold and kills the darling with his own power and the blade she killed Mal with. Mal comes back to life because what she killed was the amplifier part of him, so now he doesn’t have powers either. Since both Alina and Mal no longer have powers they get married and start an orphanage together living “ordinary lives, full of ordinary things. If love can ever be called that.”
"King of Ravka et al." had me CACKLING
It makes me wonder a bit more about Kirigan’s history. Was he always the ’darkling’? Darkling also makes one think of the word changeling.
There is a graphic novel written by Leigh bardugo. Thank god the writers of s2 did not get a chance to ruin it….one of the writers who hates the Darkling was in charge of adapting it. And let’s just say, if you read it some “choices” in s2 were changed from the books only to invalidate, destroy, and mock the Darkling and his personal trauma. The writers hate complex charcters and wanted to write flat, one dimensional forgettable villain in s2
I personally except more of Kirigan! I excepted from him to have an reserve plan. Like Sauron or Voldemort. I know he is not them. But honestly I watched this tv show because i wasnted him and Alina to be together to find each other in some kind of love romance. All others are suckers!
We are blessed the series was canceled. The show runners and writers fully admitted how much they hated his character and we’re just out to destroy him. Christina strain even said somehow she was responsible for writing parts for demon in the Wood that they weren’t able to shoot; and the direction she would’ve taken it with was only to invalidate his trauma! They hated Ben Barnes and backstabbed him
Omg, I really needed this explainer this season - thank you! I got a bit lost there at times and missed a bunch of the things you pointed out. (I haven't read the books.)
Tolya will make Inej forget all about Kaz in a matter of seconds 😂
Yes!! I can't wait to see romance between them. She needs a thoughtful man to take care of her.
I was wondering for Mal, was he reborn without the tracking abilities or can he not feel it because her magic/abilities are dark now. As in she is no longer a sun summoner but has darkness.
In the book he gave his abilities to Alina. So when he was resurrected, they were already gone.
I thought it was gonna be that she was pregnant with his child and that the power passed to it.
I love the Cut of light Alina uses
Just a little correction on Jurda Parem - In the books it was said to be made by a Shu Scientist - Bo Yul-Bayur - who was Grisha, a Fabrikator. He made it from Ordinary Jurda, and it grows in , the (nothing grows in the Fold). He made it for his son, who is an Inferni, in the hopes to create something that Grisha could use to hide their powers without getting sick. But it didn't go as planned.. After Bo Yul-Bayur died, his son - Kuwei Yul-Bo - was kidnapped by Fjerdans. They made him try and recreate the drug his father made, while using what they had left of it to drug Grisha and use them as weapons.
The drug amplifies a Grisha's power much more than any bone amplifier could ever manage, but that comes with two prices - Addiction and Sickness. Once a Grisha has tasted Parem, they get addicted and they will do anything for another dose, that is how the Fjerdans weaponise them. But the drug makes Grisha very sickly, and they often die due to that.
After they squeezed book 2 and 3 into one season and they already stray from the original, I think to have these two end up together would be a nice twist.
I do love mal and Alina together in the books and also in the series it would of be nice, in a way. But I agree with mal that he needs to find out if there was more than fate or the amplifiers keeping them together, i would enjoy the twist. And have mal who tbh was a big part of Alina’s life, but in the last season was more like a puppy than a companion… , to find his love somewhere else. a storyline for himself would be interesting to watch.
It would also be a shame to just write off the potential nikolai and Alina have cause they somewhat met more eye to eye, at least in the season and had great chemistry going. Also they did work on the character and relationship development of these two the whole series it would be sad to just ignore that.
Probably they will find a way back together anyway cause the love triangle is just brining so much sweet drama no movie maker can resist it 😂
And as Netflix likes to portrait characters who would be a better match but then in the end the protagonist chooses the one where the chemistry was totally non existing and these end up together (kissing booth 2, to all the boys) - I do love Peter and Noah but it was upsetting to work on building on a relationship with someone else who actually on paper seems more plausible to go back to a slightly toxic relationship….not really good for real life expectations of relationships 😂
But I am looking forward to what they will make of it ❤
We forgot the bee flying by Zoya who fends it off... And some Saints will likely appear in the next season who knows :) 😅
I enjoyed this season, but I am slightly worried about how they are shoving random elements from Six of Crows/Crooked Kingdom into the plot. These events in the books have weight in relation to the context in which they take place and the path that led up to them. But by being randomly put into this series, they lose all value, and galvanize any chance of doing justice to the story and the characters in the future. I mean, they put the climax of the last book in the middle of what is ultimately a prequel to the story... ??? ... what would be the point of putting the story itself on the screen now? If the story were a body, it's as if they decided to stage its skin, forgetting all its contents, bones, muscles, organs and all. They tell how the characters should be, but they cannot show how or why, because they are not going to put on the screen the history, the motivations, the stakes that together, and not sprinkled here and there along the course of another story, lead to the formation of these six incredible characters and the bonds that unite them. Without the context that formed them, the six of Crows are empty, a figurine compared to the real people. Which is even more unnerving when you consider how they managed to find the perfect cast. Cute fan-fiction series, but now it's time for 2 movies to give justice to the real story
I haven't read the books but I really enjoyed this story. It's been a long time since I really got hooked on a good fantasy that has everything from loyalty, betrayal, friendship, honor, love, survival, magic and mystery on such a huge scale. No doubt to squeeze so much into a tv series some things were changed/lost from the books but even cinematically, story structure and character development was very impressive. I really do hope Netflix doesn't add it to its graveyard of amazing tv shows and movies they've cancelled but I will wait until the tv version is done before I read the books. I can view the two differently but I'd rather complete one view before doing the other like I normally do. I recommend anyone who loves fantasy stories to watch this show to keep it alive.
There was no character development at all for the trilogy characters….the writers only cared about the crows. Alina’s arc was the same as s1 last episodes. Nothing changed the character stayed static
Big theory here: Alina will eventually be able to control the Nichevo’ya living inside of Nikolai and potentially expel it or use it to control him instead. Clearly she used Merzost when she revived Mal and that’s why she has control over the dark cut.
I was NOT expecting that ending with the dark cut though. I couldn’t believe it
This show could be so much better. The story and world is so interesting but the acting and writing feels meh. I don't take Alina and Mals relationship seriously and the story was SO rushed. So many things didn't really feel earned. The ending left me interested for season 3.
I’m over Alina and all of her different Men . I guess if it’s going to be a season 3 she’ll be with yet another powerful Man, I wanted to see more of Nina and Mattahis
I saw someone compare this show to CW fare. Mind you it was a good comparison, but I just don’t think you can compare the unexpected quality and visuals SAB has to anything the CW has EVER put out. I saw it’s number one in the tv listings on Netflix right now so let’s hope it holds so we get season 3 and beyond.
This is pure 100% fanfiction this is CW level of fanfiction. This is live-action fanfiction literally.
How is that Grisha at the end who kills everyone from Fyerden if they hate Grisha and hunt them? Why would she be fighting for the people who hate her?
She’s not willingly doing it. The fjerdans take Grisha and the ones that they don’t execute are turned into slaves or lab rats. She was experimented on. And is on a highly addictive drug. To get more, she has to obey the fjerdans.
The ending with Mal and Alina had me shook, I couldn’t believe it especially when they went through all that and he got brought back to life. Weird
Alina is trash I felt sorry for Mal it felt like she only used him to get what she wanted then ditched him
@taraishot100 tbh I dont think she used him at all she wanted her cake and eat it too. Mal knew he should have died and he can't particularly understand why he doesn't feel the same about her...probably a tampering with fate affect. I do hope Alina doesn't go mad queen tho...
@@cheveyo1332 I do think she always treated mel like a dirty secret. Always wanting something more. No need for her to be a queen. It was corny in my opinion how it was written. In the book they never cared if the amplifier is what brung them together
We need season 3 ASAP
In season 3 I think Nikolai will start acting like Kirigan. The infection looks like a way for Kirigan to resurrect. Just my speculation. My favorite part was when Inej confronts Kaz with the truth. The relationship he wants with her will only happen if he gets over not only his phobia of touching skin but willingness to love someone. I think he feels sheltered due to the major losses in life. I can relate to that. I cannot wait for season 3. I don't know what consequence there is for ressurecting Mal but hopefully he only does good things, unlike Pet Sematary.
My opinion will be different from most people's. I think season two should have been the end to this series with some minor changes at the end:
1: Mal should have remained dead
2: No more shadow creatures
Alas, I have seen too many shows to know that they won't stop until this series is milked dry. I know it is being adapted from a book but I maintain my position.
No because every show has to be game of thrones every fantasy series now has to be game of thrones I wish George Martin never wrote those books and never adapted them to tv
I promise you it's not being milked. There's two duologies (a bit more lengthier than the shadow and bone story) that they're going to incorporate in the latter seasons
@@rawr3122 Thanks for the response but I won't hold out much hope for the prospective seasons. I still feel strongly that the story will be ruined for me. I won't mind being pleasantly surprised though.
The person who commented that season two felt like fan fiction has my vote. The rewriting and changes made it frustrating to me and the mixing of the Crows’ story line ruined the spin off series I wanted to see. They tried to put in too much and ruined the potential the original story offered.