Our reaction to the F1 23 Driver RATINGS

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  • The brand new F1 23 game has some driver ratings which they've just released... Matt and Tommy give their thoughts on each driver!
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  • @joimirrow
    @joimirrow Před 11 měsíci +1385

    fernando is the same racecraft as lance is beyond madness

    • @tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten
      @tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten Před 11 měsíci +13

      Wow just wow

    • @Axle0Bullitt019
      @Axle0Bullitt019 Před 11 měsíci +67

      Just got to the Alonso bit and was shocked to see a 78 Awareness and then had to confirm its the same as Stroll and very much agreed. That rating is beyond bonkers!

    • @tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten
      @tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten Před 11 měsíci +60

      @@Axle0Bullitt019 Didn't even get to it, but 78 awareness????
      Every Alonso stat should be high 80's or 90's.

    • @justawhisperintheuniverse8257
      @justawhisperintheuniverse8257 Před 11 měsíci

      @@tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten Just look at his career and you'll understand. It's not just about right now.

    • @hakshustletv
      @hakshustletv Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten The guy has often been involved in race incidents that's probably why.

  • @ramiarous7783
    @ramiarous7783 Před 11 měsíci +777

    How on earth is Alonso's awareness 79? The man literally grabbing podiums, overtaking and fighting others with no mistakes, while watching TV, correcting his engineer, mentoring Lance , directing the race and giving penalties to drivers.
    And I'm 100 percent sure he can make better ratings than this 😂

    • @John333Scout
      @John333Scout Před 11 měsíci +16

      very true but his overall at 93 is fair.

    • @justawhisperintheuniverse8257
      @justawhisperintheuniverse8257 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Maybe look beyond just this year?

    • @rf9971
      @rf9971 Před 11 měsíci +34

      ​@@justawhisperintheuniverse8257 But it is about this year?

    • @mobyhuge4346
      @mobyhuge4346 Před 11 měsíci +6

      ​@@justawhisperintheuniverse8257 if it's beyond this yeah it would be the second highest or even the highest on the grid

    • @despacitosuarez
      @despacitosuarez Před 11 měsíci +10

      Balancing probably. If they actually tried, some A.I (Verstappen especially) would be broken in the game.

  • @nicolas44991
    @nicolas44991 Před 11 měsíci +662

    Alonso awareness should literally be 99, even Seb said, Fernando always knows where you are !

    • @LousySob
      @LousySob Před 11 měsíci +28

      Yeah, that's criminal.

    • @Citroen_CX_Safari
      @Citroen_CX_Safari Před 11 měsíci +45

      They literally had to nerf Alonso for being too good😅

    • @yourDecisi0n
      @yourDecisi0n Před 11 měsíci +50

      He literally watches TV while racing, so 101 for Alonso on awareness

    • @ccramit
      @ccramit Před 11 měsíci +22

      He's literally able to watch the race on the track screens while racing in podium positions in a GP. Give this man 1,000 awareness.

    • @ccramit
      @ccramit Před 11 měsíci +2

      ​@@yourDecisi0nAh, you beat me by 4 seconds haha.

  • @teokotirinta2960
    @teokotirinta2960 Před 11 měsíci +278

    Zhous awareness being 74 when he is one of the cleanest drivers on the grid???

    • @marantamil459
      @marantamil459 Před 11 měsíci +1

      He doesn't do anything...

    • @teokotirinta2960
      @teokotirinta2960 Před 11 měsíci +51

      ​@@marantamil459how come he has one of the highest overtakes per race then?

    • @deeznoots6241
      @deeznoots6241 Před 11 měsíci +14

      EA being racist towards asian drivers smh

    • @marantamil459
      @marantamil459 Před 11 měsíci +3

      @Teo Kotirinta He just brings the car home, quietly without crashing. Also, he does shank Quali sometimes such as in Australia and Monaco. Bottas is good when the car is good. Spain was an Anomolie due to significant floor damage for Bottas

    • @tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten
      @tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten Před 11 měsíci +23

      ⁠@@marantamil459I do hope you do realize that awareness is determined by how often you crash and hit other cars. But you probably don't since you said he was good at bringing the car home but are still saying that his awareness should be low.

  • @benergy3343
    @benergy3343 Před 11 měsíci +348

    That Alonso awareness rating is beyond criminal!!!

    • @unthenner5519
      @unthenner5519 Před 11 měsíci

      Spain & Monaco

    • @PazuChill
      @PazuChill Před 11 měsíci +10

      Exactly. He's arguably the most aware driver on the grid. As Martin Brundle put it earlier in the season: he doesn't just drive his car, but the cars of everyone around him as well.

    • @AlexTapisevic
      @AlexTapisevic Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@unthenner5519 ?

    • @AlexTapisevic
      @AlexTapisevic Před 11 měsíci +1

      He should be the most aware driver in history.

    • @GremmieWhite
      @GremmieWhite Před 11 měsíci +1

      He's freaking watching TV and coming up with strategies and advices for a teammate while driving, if that's not 99 Awareness then what is

  • @danonthestrings
    @danonthestrings Před 11 měsíci +521

    The fact that both Sargeant and De Vries have higher racecraft than Piastri, wtf?

    • @2Fast4Mellow
      @2Fast4Mellow Před 11 měsíci +15

      I think that is because Piastri had some good qualifications and during the race went a bit backwards, were others are terrible at quali and minimally go forward.
      Nobody has more starts and wins than Lewis, but still his experience level is not set at 99.
      Verstappen score I do get to a point. At some point both Verstappen and Perez got each two wins and two poles. Very good for Perez, less good for Verstappen...

    • @sahajdeepak8613
      @sahajdeepak8613 Před 11 měsíci +4

      Alonso has more than Lewis

    • @blonk4237
      @blonk4237 Před 11 měsíci +9

      @@2Fast4Mellow Lewis has 317 race starts and Alonso has 362 so he has more race starts..

    • @066kshitizvsingh4
      @066kshitizvsingh4 Před 11 měsíci +3

      ​@@2Fast4MellowThat's because the McLaren is absolutely terrible in race. It is easy to overtake while being incredibly hard to overtake with

    • @twanvanderdonk2504
      @twanvanderdonk2504 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@2Fast4Mellow Max finished second both times and Perez finished... Where? Did he even finish, or is he still driving? lmao

  • @Ballacha
    @Ballacha Před 11 měsíci +103

    zhou: not a single accident caused by driver error in his rookie year + so far this year (only one spin in one free practice)
    f1 game: ok that's good for an awareness score lower than prople who spin and crash

    • @ddogwr83
      @ddogwr83 Před 11 měsíci +10

      absolutely ridiculous. and alonso at 78 awareness??? HES WATCHING THE RACE WHILE DRIVING IN IT

  • @bendiwarpdingo
    @bendiwarpdingo Před 11 měsíci +96

    Alonso, the driver who can drive while also watching the race.
    EA: Yeah, 78 awareness I suppose.

    • @ayanchoudhury6697
      @ayanchoudhury6697 Před 11 měsíci

      I think awareness is also calculated by how many times drivers have been summoned to the stewards which Alonso had to do quite a few times last year as well as this year so maybe that's what influenced this rating but yeah, the overall metric seems a bit here and there

    • @prashikjadhav3954
      @prashikjadhav3954 Před 11 měsíci

      Maybe if he focused more on the racing, his awareness would go up

    • @jbc1230
      @jbc1230 Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@prashikjadhav3954he is only the second best driver this season

  • @Oscar42o
    @Oscar42o Před 11 měsíci +221

    Zhou's racecraft and awareness should be higher. Zhou literally is top 3 or 5 in the number of overtakes. Zhou is also a super clean driver. Never see him damage the car. Like how is Alex's awarness higher when Alex literally like DNF 1 or 2 times due to driver error.

    • @TheRambossss
      @TheRambossss Před 11 měsíci +1

      I remember one time in Silverstone where his car was damage but that's beside the point.

    • @E.Bashmak
      @E.Bashmak Před 11 měsíci +29

      @@TheRambossss Silverstone wasnt really his fault so...

    • @Oscar42o
      @Oscar42o Před 11 měsíci +3

      @@TheRambossss Was it his fault tho?

    • @no1washerezz
      @no1washerezz Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@Oscar42o it was... guess who? russell george. i believe he tried to squeeze gasly but didn't see that gasly was also right next to (zhou?) due to the blind spot. so by george attempting to squeeze gasly, it was a trio sandwich.

    • @hakshustletv
      @hakshustletv Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@TheRambossss So if we're going to do that we must bring up everyone's long lost history lol Alonso and Max by default would be ranked way lower because of all the race incidents they've had😂

  • @mortajamartinez9176
    @mortajamartinez9176 Před 11 měsíci +213

    Alonso AWAreness SO LOW... what a YOKE!!!

  • @fin-ed6oj
    @fin-ed6oj Před 11 měsíci +161

    The gap between Max & Checo is 5 ratings, the gap between Lewis & George is 4 ratings. That’s a disgrace. George is far, far, far closer to Lewis irl than Checo is to Max

    • @alternativeformula
      @alternativeformula Před 11 měsíci +6

      Fr

    • @alexvandun2124
      @alexvandun2124 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Agreed!

    • @rdk7010
      @rdk7010 Před 11 měsíci +3

      Absolutely, combining the stats from this and last season, George is outqualifying Lewis and outscoring him in points. George had some bad luck already this season, otherwise he would probably be leading Lewis this season as well.
      It's also super weird how Hamilton his awareness went up after he was involved in incidents in 9 different races last season.

    • @dagaukrust5585
      @dagaukrust5585 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@rdk7010 Hamilton has just been better then Russel in terms of race pace

    • @DjDolHaus86
      @DjDolHaus86 Před 11 měsíci +3

      Hamilton does have 7 world championships and 16 years of experience at the top level though

  • @eliassaratsis
    @eliassaratsis Před 11 měsíci +148

    How the fuck does stroll have 91 race craft and Russell has 87 🤯

    • @michaeljamieson3582
      @michaeljamieson3582 Před 11 měsíci +3

      I get the feeling some influence is being placed on the team who come up with these ratings.

    • @ryanespinoza7297
      @ryanespinoza7297 Před 11 měsíci +8

      Race craft is determined by how many positions a driver increases over a race. Russell usually qualifies better than Stroll so he has less chance to better his position

    • @gameofender4463
      @gameofender4463 Před 11 měsíci +10

      @@ryanespinoza7297 Not arguing with you. But if that’s how they judge it, it’s the most ridiculous, flawed logic ever.

    • @gameofender4463
      @gameofender4463 Před 11 měsíci

      @@michaeljamieson3582 Yeah, wouldn’t surprise me seeing how they’ve massively overrated Lance and Lando.

    • @BelegCuthali0n
      @BelegCuthali0n Před 11 měsíci +5

      In the last season, George has been involved in quite a few incidents as well while Lance kept his nose clean most of the time. Definitely George has a lot more potential and pace and the gap in racecraft shouldn't be that big, but there is something to be said te having Lance outscore him there based on the second half of 2022.

  • @quintenvanderhoorn907
    @quintenvanderhoorn907 Před 11 měsíci +41

    Zhou is so underrated😢

  • @Reece_Hart
    @Reece_Hart Před 11 měsíci +19

    Oscar's racecraft essentially getting penalised because he's getting the best out of that McPotato and qualifying and ending races as basically around the same spot instead of qualifying crap and making up places is utterly ridiculous

  • @selder_7
    @selder_7 Před 11 měsíci +99

    Leclerc should have at least the joint highest pace stat, I’d still say only 90 overall but it’s just flat out wrong to not have him near the top of pace

    • @scimmytag
      @scimmytag Před 11 měsíci +3

      I disagree, Leclerc looks for the limit more than other drivers (and mostly pulls it off).. but I think he has too many accidents, which should be taken into account some way

    • @gameofender4463
      @gameofender4463 Před 11 měsíci +13

      Charles and George deserve 90 at minimum.

    • @deeznoots6241
      @deeznoots6241 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Equally his racecraft should probably be lower

    • @stal1n63
      @stal1n63 Před 11 měsíci +14

      @@scimmytag yeah, and for that - there AWARENESS points. Give Chales literally like 96-98 pace and 60 awareness lol. That's would be fair

    • @jonathasplein549
      @jonathasplein549 Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@stal1n63 My thoughts exactly

  • @shrek8692
    @shrek8692 Před 11 měsíci +307

    Lando being on the same level as charles and being above george is absolutely criminal

    • @deeznoots6241
      @deeznoots6241 Před 11 měsíci +44

      George beats Hamilton in the same car but is apparently worse than Lando, perfect EA logic

    • @shrek8692
      @shrek8692 Před 11 měsíci +25

      @@deeznoots6241 Exactly, Lando is still a really good driver but he's really overrated

    • @gameofender4463
      @gameofender4463 Před 11 měsíci +8

      @@shrek8692 Agreed. But apparently saying that is “hating” on Norris.
      He doesn’t deserve the rating he got. It gets worse when you realise that through a career when Hamilton and Alonso retire. The only one who will stop Max is Norris. Which is a joke.

    • @epicgamerchannel6230
      @epicgamerchannel6230 Před 11 měsíci +11

      I mean, is it possible that he's on their level? There's a definite chance. Is it possible to tell? Definitely not. He's able to do things with that mclaren that I can't see many others doing, but since we haven't seen him in a championship winning, or even race winning car, we'll never know until he gets one (which realistically will be 2026).

    • @versiable8041
      @versiable8041 Před 11 měsíci +4

      @@deeznoots6241 Well he's not doing it this year, and if I'm right the ratings are based on the 2023 season performance so far.

  • @Sigil_Firebrand
    @Sigil_Firebrand Před 11 měsíci +15

    There should be an extra stat: Consistency, the ability to generate consistent results within the expectations placed on them. THAT would be a stat that would shuffle the overall a bit.

    • @davy_657
      @davy_657 Před 11 měsíci

      Best thing i read today, totally agree

  • @nazarinoutama8269
    @nazarinoutama8269 Před 11 měsíci +35

    91 Racecraft on Lance?!?
    Blimey!!!

    • @e2rqey
      @e2rqey Před 11 měsíci

      I was thinking of a different word that starts with "b"

    • @KillZoneHart1
      @KillZoneHart1 Před 11 měsíci +1

      That racecraft was on full display in Monaco

    • @Besitzerstolz
      @Besitzerstolz Před 11 měsíci

      Two years ago that would be about right, but somehow he's not performing as good in the races as back then.

    • @Loreurka
      @Loreurka Před 11 měsíci

      Same racecraft as Alonso, wtf

    • @JSG2005
      @JSG2005 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@e2rqey bullshit?

  • @vidsumi2247
    @vidsumi2247 Před 11 měsíci +59

    Lawrence Stroll paid 2mil for lance being rated 84 instead of 76

    • @JamesBoxxy
      @JamesBoxxy Před 11 měsíci +2

      I fully believe this conspiracy and doubt anyone could make me think otherwise! 🤣🤣

    • @gameofender4463
      @gameofender4463 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@JamesBoxxy Wonder what caused them to lie about Norris.

    • @abigailcooling6604
      @abigailcooling6604 Před 11 měsíci

      Thought that immediately.

  • @franzreyes846
    @franzreyes846 Před 11 měsíci +70

    Hard to decide whether Stroll or Bottas' rating is a bigger disgrace... George definitely got shafted here, no way Norris is better than him right now

    • @noahweinkum9471
      @noahweinkum9471 Před 11 měsíci +11

      I honestly think Norris could take it in equal machinery

    • @gameofender4463
      @gameofender4463 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@noahweinkum9471 hahahaha 😂. Absolutely not. George is the Yugi to Lando’s Joey Wheeler.

    • @franzreyes846
      @franzreyes846 Před 11 měsíci

      @@noahweinkum9471 nah the only thing Lando has over George in those categories is maybe awareness

    • @miggygetright6344
      @miggygetright6344 Před 11 měsíci +5

      I’d say Stroll, homie ain’t better than Yuki San, Albono, KMag, HulkenHAAS (hulk literally beat him last year), and Zhou

    • @noahweinkum9471
      @noahweinkum9471 Před 11 měsíci

      @@franzreyes846 Spain would suggest the opposite 🤣

  • @type-ke7921
    @type-ke7921 Před 11 měsíci +16

    I can understand giving Zhou a 78 on overall rating, but 74 awareness is just BS.

  • @bertdemeulemeester
    @bertdemeulemeester Před 11 měsíci +30

    Zhou should have a bigger rating

  • @seven4221
    @seven4221 Před 11 měsíci +44

    How is Alonso awareness so low?!
    When does Fernando Alonso ever make mistakes?

    • @unthenner5519
      @unthenner5519 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Last race? Monaco?

    • @tharealmb
      @tharealmb Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@unthenner5519thats more on the team than him. If you count those Lewis should be way lower because when he chooses his own strategy calls it's often not the right call.

    • @no1washerezz
      @no1washerezz Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@unthenner5519 don't know how you can blame monaco on him. the pitwall always has more information on the weather than the driver does. they can stick their hand out, they can check the forecast and base their strategies off that.

    • @unthenner5519
      @unthenner5519 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@tharealmb Last race was Spain btw

    • @paperplane-db8qf
      @paperplane-db8qf Před 11 měsíci

      @@tharealmbMonaco sector 3 was terrible in qualifying. Literally one of the slowest, slower than Mclarens, Tsunoda, Alpine.
      93 pace 🤡 over someone who already got pole.

  • @OK-fi4yq
    @OK-fi4yq Před 11 měsíci +50

    max being downgraded after winning 15 races last season 💀

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 Před 11 měsíci +1

      For game balance I assume.

    • @ddha0000
      @ddha0000 Před 11 měsíci +2

      its the car, thats why. the fact Lewis was matching his race pace on a few tracks in the second half of the season in a a much slower merc, makes you wonder if he really is that fast. we will never know unless he has a top teammate, which his dad will never allow to happen.

    • @ddha0000
      @ddha0000 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@terencevangaalen4127 well we know from the past that his dad starts whining if RB do anything to upset little max. he demanded rb develop the car for max last year when perez was quicker. no way he would want a top driver to be his teammate and take a lot of wins from him.

  • @Alex_Martin_
    @Alex_Martin_ Před 11 měsíci +15

    Alonso 78 awarenes is almost fair? Alonso should have the highest awareness of any driver easily.

    • @hakshustletv
      @hakshustletv Před 11 měsíci

      No he shouldn't because he isn't the cleanest drover with the least race incidents.

  • @HenriquePereira-en9su
    @HenriquePereira-en9su Před 11 měsíci +41

    Carlos is massively underrated. I think his OVR is just about right

    • @laihangtsang1913
      @laihangtsang1913 Před 10 měsíci

      I agree carlos is doing good

    • @naadi2000nr1
      @naadi2000nr1 Před 10 měsíci

      Agreed 88 is spot on. It’s 1-1 between lec & sai and atm 2-1 for sai

  • @olszi00
    @olszi00 Před 11 měsíci +17

    I said if before, I'll say it again - it's almost as if there was a lottery machine deciding the rating and the stats for each driver. If I was to write out all the ratings that don't make any sense with the explanations I guess no one would manage to bear with me until the very end of this comment. Absolute disgrace EA, congrats! (why am I not even that surprised lmao)

    • @Elvewizzy.
      @Elvewizzy. Před 11 měsíci +1

      You gotta factor in playability of the characters in the game. If it was honest, you'd have 3-4 drivers at the top, then a bunch of nothing, followed by some mid drivers and then comes the bottom of the barrel options.
      These ratings allow for fans to pick their 'hero' and do fairly well with them. Which is why the stats are all over the place and are most definitely not based on any stats.

    • @gameofender4463
      @gameofender4463 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@Elvewizzy. Which is more realistic. If people chose a loser as their hero that’s their choice we shouldn’t have to put with having Norris as tied 2nd best of the next-gen because he has fans.

    • @magb8632
      @magb8632 Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@Elvewizzy. but dont they get better? i dont know what its called in english but with your HQ facilities in career mode the drivers ratings go up so it would still be possible to have your "hero", of course at the beginning he would suck but if you invest in this simulation thing or whatever he would get better with time

    • @Elvewizzy.
      @Elvewizzy. Před 11 měsíci

      @@gameofender4463 I dont agree, but that does sell more games I'm afraid.

    • @Duval-In-The-Wall
      @Duval-In-The-Wall Před 10 měsíci

      @@gameofender4463
      Norris underrated as per, kid has serious talent
      Eventually people will wake up

  • @zombiekilla25979
    @zombiekilla25979 Před 11 měsíci +22

    When it comes to overall rating. Pace is given a bit of extra weight than the others, idk how much though

  • @JamesBoxxy
    @JamesBoxxy Před 11 měsíci +45

    Surprisingly unwashed takes from Matt & Tommy! Great video, enjoyed this one! 🔥🔥

  • @Orca4135
    @Orca4135 Před 11 měsíci +11

    Lando Norris ahead of Charles on pace💀. Racecraft? Maybe. Awareness yeah. Pace? Pure pace? No Charles is the 97 of the grid on pace. Downgrade him on awareness and even racecraft but he deserves 95-98 on pace

    • @pedro.gandra
      @pedro.gandra Před 11 měsíci +1

      Charles is ahead of Lando for sure, but he can't be close to Max on this. Pace stat is not just one lap pace, is overall pace, and specially this season Charles loses to a few drivers on overall pace.

  • @Opie852
    @Opie852 Před 11 měsíci +65

    Max having 95/99 pace is some "perfect 5/7" energy

    • @jakem5039
      @jakem5039 Před 11 měsíci +9

      Bro could finish races 2 years in front and get a 95

    • @rodsitamara
      @rodsitamara Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@jakem5039 no its perfect right now. they cant put a driver that far ahead if the car is so dominant (even perez finishes 20sec ahead of non-red bulls when he has clean race), once aston and maybe ferrari and merc get closer and max is still at the same level, he should be higher

    • @paperplane-db8qf
      @paperplane-db8qf Před 11 měsíci +1

      Do you really think Max is the best in qualifying given his poor qualifying record? Baku: easy pole. Miami: easy pole. Even in Monaco he was quite mediocre with the first 2 sectors and just a tenth faster than Ocon/ Leclerc in the last sector.

    • @jakem5039
      @jakem5039 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@paperplane-db8qf "easy pole" is just a way to dismiss everything he could do well so there is no point arguing, you clearly just dont like the guy lmfao.

  • @hamza-chaudhry
    @hamza-chaudhry Před 11 měsíci +25

    Alonso's awareness needs to be higher and he should be second highest overall, especially considering Hamilton's awareness is really high, despite him being involved in multiple incidents last year, many of which were his fault.

  • @lifewithivy
    @lifewithivy Před 11 měsíci +7

    Kmag having a higher rating kinda makes sense once you see that he has finished higher than Nico in all but one of the races he has finished... Or is that not something they take into consideration? I'm not a gamer but just curious about this 😅

  • @raulfelix3398
    @raulfelix3398 Před 11 měsíci +11

    Matt and Tommy, you guys rate the drivers every race. Whip out that list and make an average!

  • @jtc4119
    @jtc4119 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Nice video Matt and Tommy

  • @hakshustletv
    @hakshustletv Před 11 měsíci +1

    Here’s how each category is determined:
    Experience: The number of race starts a driver has over the course of their career.
    Racecraft: The driver’s ability to work their way through the pack and finish in a higher position than where they started.
    Awareness: The less time spent in the steward’s room will help drivers here. Real-world punishments will impact the score in this category.
    Pace: Benefits those who get closest to the fastest qualifying and race lap times. A driver beating their teammate is also taken into consideration.
    Rating: The combination of the previous four ratings. This overall rating will go up and down throughout the season based on performance.

  • @Uzair_Of_Babylon465
    @Uzair_Of_Babylon465 Před 11 měsíci

    Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍

  • @joribremer5260
    @joribremer5260 Před 11 měsíci +8

    Well EA had learned… 2 years back Bottas his awareness was 99

    • @kongyiu
      @kongyiu Před 11 měsíci +8

      Well, he was very aware that he was the second driver.

  • @nelsonlswong
    @nelsonlswong Před 11 měsíci +3

    15:12 Matt doesn't know how one could put Perez and Leclerc on the same rating. Perez has more race wins than Leclerc.

  • @shmet
    @shmet Před 11 měsíci +7

    There should be more parameters to calculate a rating though.
    4 is waaaay too low

  • @eamonahern7495
    @eamonahern7495 Před 11 měsíci +5

    Remember Sergio in Sakhir 2020. He won from the back of the field in a Racing Point. I think he deserves his racecraft rating.

  • @Rin-vj4wg
    @Rin-vj4wg Před 11 měsíci +3

    Alonso is so aware he saw stroll overtake in Miami while they were racing from a screen

  • @MajieB
    @MajieB Před 11 měsíci +29

    How can they downgrade max after last season...

  • @jekro1
    @jekro1 Před 11 měsíci +2

    "You can't put Sergio Perez on the same rating as Charles Leclerc"
    Leclerc race wins: 5 (all in a Ferrari)
    Perez race wins: 6
    -> Leclerc has amazing pace but that's about it.
    Perez and Leclerc both have big up and downs.

  • @andrewborrelli1512
    @andrewborrelli1512 Před 11 měsíci +4

    how the fuck is lewis awareness that high and Fernando is so low

  • @user-zi8zx2bw4k
    @user-zi8zx2bw4k Před 11 měsíci +12

    How has alonso only got 99 experience he has the most race starts!

    • @epicgamerchannel6230
      @epicgamerchannel6230 Před 11 měsíci +5

      not sure if this is a joke or not, but just in case, 99 is the highest it can be.

    • @user-zi8zx2bw4k
      @user-zi8zx2bw4k Před 11 měsíci

      @epicgamerchannel6230 its not I upgraded Hamilton on f1 22 and he got 100 experience

    • @jonathasplein549
      @jonathasplein549 Před 11 měsíci +7

      ​@@user-zi8zx2bw4k I think "raw" stats top at 99

    • @hakshustletv
      @hakshustletv Před 11 měsíci

      @@user-zi8zx2bw4k Hamilton has a lot of experiences Alonso or any driver may not have after all those championships. Having a lot of races doesn't necessarily mean you have the most experience if you do the same thing.

  • @samsonlovesyou
    @samsonlovesyou Před 10 měsíci

    I think Lando's numbers make sense. Not had a competitive car, but outperformed it repeatedly (P3 in Spain Quali stands out), wiped the floor with his experienced, multiple grand prix winning teammate for 2 seasons straight, almost never crashes, avoids incidents, still outperforming a new teammate. I think the grade here reflects how highly he's thought of by other drivers who know their stuff as well. Red Bull want him, and even Hamilton came on radio to say how good he is that time in Austria.
    Definitely ahead of Perez, in my view. Would love to see him in that seat.

  • @DonLee1980
    @DonLee1980 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Alonso watching TV screens to know where others are on track:
    F1: you have zero awareness.

  • @John333Scout
    @John333Scout Před 11 měsíci +3

    Lec and Russel not being a full point or more ahead of Lando, Perez, and Sainz, is insane and agree Lec should be #1 in pace idk how you can say he isnt the fastest driver over 1 lap. IMO of their right now performance and form rating.
    Overall, Pace
    1. Ver 95, 94
    2. Alonso 92, 93
    3. Ham 92, 91
    4. Lec 91, 95
    5. Rus 90, 93
    6. Lando 89, 90
    7. Sainz 88, 87
    8. Perez 87, 87
    9. Ocon 86, 86
    10. Gas 85, 85
    11. Yuki 83, 86
    12. Alb 83, 86
    13. Bot 82, 85
    14. Stroll 82, 81
    15. Hulk 81, 81
    16. Mag 80, 82
    17. Zhou 78, 81
    18. Oscar 76, 78
    19. DeV 71, 67
    20. Sarg, 71, 67

  • @texantactical7787
    @texantactical7787 Před 11 měsíci +2

    I want EA devs on camera watching the race highlights and explaining these ratings. 😂

  • @iwanevans607
    @iwanevans607 Před 11 měsíci

    We absolutely need some F1 23 content on the channel

  • @oKoK-tz4oz
    @oKoK-tz4oz Před 11 měsíci +3

    I'm not saying Bottas should be that high but we've all seen what he can do when that alfa actually works. Last season he came 6th in Bahrain and Spain, 5th in Imola, and overall he was in the top 10 in almost half of the races. These ratings reflect much on last season and not only the few races we've had this year.

    • @despacitosuarez
      @despacitosuarez Před 11 měsíci +4

      I'd like to also point out Bottas had floor damage in Spain and Saudi Arabia, Baku, maybe Australia as well. In the races he 100% didn't have damage (Bahrain, Monaco, Miami), he preformed well. Maybe he could be an 86 or 87, but definitely not low 80s. On the other hand, Zhou should definitely be low 80s

    • @oKoK-tz4oz
      @oKoK-tz4oz Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@despacitosuarez Exactly, I totally agree. Feels like Matt and Tommy just forget or ignore all the great performances he has put up since leaving Mercedes. Tommy also said that he thinks Bottas should retire, which is just crazy. I would love to see Zhou and Bottas competing in a car that doesn't move like a tractor 90% of the time.

    • @no1washerezz
      @no1washerezz Před 11 měsíci

      @@oKoK-tz4oz it's because bwoahttas is in that stage of his career where in a competitive view, he has mentally checked out. he's so relaxed now and while that's obviously a better state to be in, it's a sign of complacency and complacency is the last thing you want in f1.

  • @samdurling6053
    @samdurling6053 Před 11 měsíci +2

    The overall figures aren't far off but the individual figures are. How has Lewis got less pace than Fernando but Fernando has 16 less awareness? Also how do they calculate the averages, how much weight is given to each score.

  • @zegzbrutal
    @zegzbrutal Před 11 měsíci +3

    Alonso and Zhou are underrated 😂

  • @Duval-In-The-Wall
    @Duval-In-The-Wall Před 10 měsíci +1

    Hulkenberg hasn’t performed to the level you’ve expected? He’s crushed Magnussen and has dragged that Haas into Q3 nearly half the time
    What were you expecting lmao

  • @turbo_brian
    @turbo_brian Před 11 měsíci

    So for experience, how do nyck and logan have such close values? Like, if they're only counting f1 experience they should both be like 10 or so, but if they're counting previous categories nyck should have a ton more experience than logan. I can only assume a 48 is taking into consideration logan's junior career and that someone like kimi in their rookie season would have had a lower score, but then nyck should easily be a mid to high 60 or low 70 if that's the case since he's done a ton more driving than logan in other categories.

  • @iiTsFaded_
    @iiTsFaded_ Před 11 měsíci +1

    The reason why the average isn’t dead on is because they add a couple points, give or take, for pace.

  • @auralight-tranceempyrean9748
    @auralight-tranceempyrean9748 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Yeah i think Lance having a race craft of 91 is correct if you read what they base it on. But this is mainly due to poor qualifying. Over the course of Lance's career he has always been the top 5 overtaker of the year because he is a flying starter. He usually makes up a huge number of positions on the opening lap. But this seems to be as he qualifies quite low. And I've seen this trend myself.
    Alonso awarenesses should be 99. I do agree that Charles should have a higher pace average, but if this year's performance is weighted more than previous, then it might just be correct because poor Charles is having a very unlucky session

  • @pachuelgrandius
    @pachuelgrandius Před 11 měsíci +1

    I dont understand the hate on sainz, he may not be as fast when leclerc is at its best however he is much more consistent than leclerc and beat him in his first season because of it and performing well this season

  • @fordfocusrs7955
    @fordfocusrs7955 Před 11 měsíci

    Zhous awareness is a val rant robbery he’s been pretty good in avoiding crashes and penalties

  • @negsterarchive7911
    @negsterarchive7911 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Piastri and Russell indeed underrated

  • @fallenshallrise
    @fallenshallrise Před 11 měsíci

    This is an interesting exercise but when you picture a seat opening up at a top team mid season and you had to choose between Bottas, Yuki, Stroll, KMag and Albion which way would you go. You can rate Yuki highest all day but would you put him in Perez’ or Hamilton’s seat?

  • @souryavarenya
    @souryavarenya Před 11 měsíci

    Alonso not only knows his race but also Stroll's race, extra points for watching TV and praising Stroll while actively racing.

  • @DoniyRacing
    @DoniyRacing Před 11 měsíci +4

    Wtf, 78 awa to Alonso?!...what they were drinking at codemasters!

  • @user-do3cj3ej2q
    @user-do3cj3ej2q Před 11 měsíci

    Matt's transcript for this video "About right."

  • @yusufk6712
    @yusufk6712 Před 11 měsíci

    As for overall ratings it seems to be right more or less, but individual stat ratings do not represent their actual abilities (for most drivers).

  • @DarioDarrow
    @DarioDarrow Před 11 měsíci +1

    How is awareness calculated? Lewis at 94 when he has to ask if it's the last lap of the race and Fernando 78 when he has enough mental capacity left over to set up Lances brake balance and watch the race on the TV screens 🤦‍♂

  • @benjaminkuch2558
    @benjaminkuch2558 Před 11 měsíci

    I feel like the ovr are mostly about right, but racecraft and awareness are very wild

  • @jackdoe9430
    @jackdoe9430 Před 11 měsíci +1

    How do Yuki and Zhou have basically the same experience when the difference between Oscar/nyck/Logan are so much lower than Zhou

  • @hunterreeves6525
    @hunterreeves6525 Před 11 měsíci +25

    Hamilton has higher awareness than Alonso… WOT
    It’s also just as criminal to claim Hamiltons race craft is higher than Alonso
    No but obviously they just wanted a way to bring his rating down, but literally he should be a 94 too, he’s right there with max
    While I’m complaining, Russels race craft should’ve been 90+ and Leclercs pace should’ve been 95 just like max

    • @hakshustletv
      @hakshustletv Před 11 měsíci

      From what I understand overtaking or gaining positions has a lot of influence on race craft, Alonso tends to qualify high, Hamilton has probably had to gain more places on track this season. Alonso has also been in more race incidents than Hamilton, that's going to negatively affect your awareness.

    • @mb16249
      @mb16249 Před 11 měsíci

      I mean cmon, lewis rarely...very rarely makes mistakes and also clean driver on the other hand Alonso has 2021 max character(during alpine), well this year car suited him ...Lewis much stronger, better and consistent just wait towards the end of the season.

    • @paperplane-db8qf
      @paperplane-db8qf Před 11 měsíci

      @@hakshustletv”Alonso tends to qualify high” 😂

    • @hakshustletv
      @hakshustletv Před 11 měsíci

      @@paperplane-db8qf 5th, 3rd, 4th, 6th, 2nd, 2nd, 9th, He's out qualified Ham more times this season, the comparison is to LH, the higher you qualify, the less drivers you have to pass. Hamilton is literally on his tail despite Alonso outqualifying him thus far up to this point. That's why his race craft stat is ranked higher. Lewis generally has to make more passes on track than Alonso

    • @paperplane-db8qf
      @paperplane-db8qf Před 11 měsíci

      @@hakshustletv Alonso has a far better car than Hamilton. Easily the 2nd best and also far easier to drive.

  • @Brutis
    @Brutis Před 11 měsíci +2

    Sergio is spot on. He’s better than Leclerc right now.

  • @tuttutteddy8889
    @tuttutteddy8889 Před 11 měsíci +21

    I don’t get how Max’s pace isn’t 99… he is THE pace rn

    • @ddha0000
      @ddha0000 Před 11 měsíci +4

      cause its the car. not sure why drivers have ratings, should be the cars

  • @aleksb0t610
    @aleksb0t610 Před 11 měsíci

    i feel like Ea just does those ratings like: who is in the faster cars - they are high but also get some other people up there.
    and the ratings are not even acurate because they just put some similar numbers together and that is it i feel like no mater what the overall score of a driver is if he has expiriance his exp should be high, or like tsunoda should have high racecraft even vvhen his overall score is not as high
    i also feel like drivers like niko hulk even thou he is low he shoud get high exp and rusel probably lower awearnes and a higher overall score

  • @diplot100
    @diplot100 Před 11 měsíci +4

    Tsunoda deserves 84 but Checo deserves an 85, ANOTHER DAY ANOTHER SET OF BRITISH CZcamsRS TRASHING CHECo what’s new 😊

  • @maximilianmeier1441
    @maximilianmeier1441 Před 11 měsíci

    I think the overall rating for Leclerc is pretty fair although pace might be too low and racecraft/awareness too high. He is just too inconsistent compared to the drivers that are rated higher.

  • @_AndrewYee
    @_AndrewYee Před 11 měsíci

    They said on the video were drivers reacted to their score, that pace is given extra weighting compared to other things

    • @gameofender4463
      @gameofender4463 Před 11 měsíci

      Really? So they think Norris is tied 3rd best? 😂

  • @arturseversons3444
    @arturseversons3444 Před 11 měsíci

    Having not played an F1 game since F1'06 on PS2, I haven't got a clue what these ratings mean, what they do etc etc 😂

  • @Cupcardriver
    @Cupcardriver Před 11 měsíci

    @p1 Pardon my ignorance Matt & Tommy, but who created these ratings? How were the numbers assigned?

  • @dlake1224
    @dlake1224 Před 11 měsíci +1

    These ratings seem to have mainly been about how bad someone qualifies. Stroll keeps qualifying out of position therefore gets an amazing racecraft rating...

  • @miggygetright6344
    @miggygetright6344 Před 11 měsíci +1

    My ranks
    1. Verstappen 98
    2. Hamilton 93
    3. Alonso 93
    4. Leclerc 90
    5. Russell 90
    6. Pérez 88
    7. Sainz 88
    8. Norris 87
    9. Ocon 86
    10. Gasly 84
    11. Tsunoda 83
    12. Bottas 82
    13. Magnussen 82
    14. Hulkenberg 81
    15. Albon 80
    16. Zhou 79
    17. Stroll 78
    18. Piastri 77
    19. De Vries 68
    20. Sargeant 67 (not better than Drugo)

    • @miggygetright6344
      @miggygetright6344 Před 11 měsíci

      Latifi was a 66 for reference, I don’t think Sargeant is much better. Latifi gets a lot of shit but he out-qualified Russell and Albon multiple times and had some good performances

  • @Mr_Sigy
    @Mr_Sigy Před 11 měsíci

    The awareness attribute just feels as having the wrong explanation
    Also fernando having only 78 is madness.
    The man watches other people race on the tellie during races how more aware can he be.

  • @lmr4403
    @lmr4403 Před 3 měsíci

    Now 7 months later: the comments about Lando Norris being rated too high with 89 confirmed to be bs. Even though he hasn't won a race yet, that is just a stat; he got everything out of that car in the second half of the season.

    • @lmr4403
      @lmr4403 Před 3 měsíci

      (I would rate Norris everyday higher than Russell)

  • @4dshow
    @4dshow Před 11 měsíci

    They needed to have watched the F1 video first. It explains the categories much better than they the boys did , plus included the weighting for the overall

  • @JohnDoe-fy9cv
    @JohnDoe-fy9cv Před 11 měsíci +3

    Video discussing making brakes worse to increase braking zones size 2-3 times maybe to improve overtaking via out braking please :)

  • @Citroen_CX_Safari
    @Citroen_CX_Safari Před 11 měsíci +2

    They had to nerf Alonsos stats to have Max be the best driver lol. Alonso literally should be the highest overall rating😅

  • @cmsxboi
    @cmsxboi Před 11 měsíci

    3:21 74 experience for piastri? Wow Matt

  •  Před 11 měsíci +1

    All this people saying Checo is overrated forget he has more wins than any of the their supposed better drivers, he has put cars from the mid and bottom of the grid in the podium several times, more than Russel in Williams or Leclerc in Sauber, so yhea, the ratings are fine

  • @thetruebatman4632
    @thetruebatman4632 Před 11 měsíci

    I love these British goobers. Best F1 content on the toob.

  • @7BD273
    @7BD273 Před 11 měsíci +5

    tell me how Bottas is so much higher than Zhou when Guanyu has been keeping up with him well?
    and tell me how after last season, when RUS & HAM were the most closely matched pair pace-wise, Russell is further off Hamilton than Sainz is off Leclerc?
    Russell should be top 5, well ahead of the likes of Sainz, Perez and Norris

  • @AaronShenghao
    @AaronShenghao Před 11 měsíci

    That Lando score shows who made the game (EA have studio in Britain, nudge nudge)

  • @marki38pro10
    @marki38pro10 Před 11 měsíci +1

    My Ratings:
    Sargeant:
    48Exp, 78Rac, 75Awa, 70Pac, 72Rtg
    De Vries:
    52Exp, 77Rac, 73Awa, 72Pac, 72Rtg
    Piastri:
    50Exp, 78Rac, 77Awa, 75Pac, 76Rtg
    Zhou:
    62Exp, 78Rac, 79Awa, 80Pac, 79Rtg
    Hulkenberg:
    85Exp, 79Rac, 80Awa, 80Pac, 80 Rtg
    Magnussen:
    83Exp, 80Rac, 78Awa, 80Pac, 80Rtg
    Stroll:
    80Exp, 81Rac, 78Awa, 80Pac, 81Rtg
    Bottas:
    89Exp, 80Rac, 85,Awa, 80Pac, 82Rtg
    Albon:
    75Exp, 81Rac, 77Awa, 85Pac, 82Rtg
    Tsunoda:
    70Exp, 82Rac, 76Awa, 86Pac, 83Rtg
    Gasly:
    76Exp, 86Rac, 82Awa, 85Pac, 85Rtg
    Ocon:
    77Exp, 87Rac, 80Awa, 85Pac, 86Rtg
    Sainz:
    83Exp, 89Rac, 81Awa, 87Pac, 87Rtg
    Norris:75Exp, 89Rac, 80Awa, 89Pac, 87Rtg
    Perez:
    89Exp, 90Rac, 80Awa, 88Pac, 88Rtg
    Russell:
    77 Exp, 90Rac, 84Awa, 90Pac, 89Rtg
    Leclerc:
    80Exp, 92Rac, 87Awa, 93Pac, 92Rtg
    Hamilton:
    96Exp, 94Rac, 94Awa, 93Pac, 93Rtg
    Alonso:
    99Exp, 94Rac, 95Awa, 94Pac, 94Rtg
    Verstappen:
    86Exp, 98Rac, 92Awa, 99Pac, 96Rtg

  • @alainaverio9245
    @alainaverio9245 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Sainz the king of underrating

  • @Mr_Skipper
    @Mr_Skipper Před 11 měsíci

    IIRC there is a bias in Pace and Racecraft when calculating overall rating.

  • @MathewBT81
    @MathewBT81 Před 11 měsíci

    Alonso is watching tv during the race..his awareness is off the charts 😂

  • @kylelacsamana8718
    @kylelacsamana8718 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Okay. Sergio and Lando are not in the same rating.86 for lando, 88-89 for sergio. Cmon. Sergios a multi race winner. Cmon. Stop the disrespect guys.

  • @codybowman803
    @codybowman803 Před 11 měsíci

    With race craft, if you start p20 you can only go forwards

  • @Kaigu_b.f.2508
    @Kaigu_b.f.2508 Před 11 měsíci

    Some of these are absolutely criminal
    Stroll with 91 racecraft?! What the actual shit

  • @peeturpain9379
    @peeturpain9379 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I would put hamilton same rating as verstappen atleast. The merc is 3rd best car, at best and he is doing wonders with it. Also a PAC rating of just 90 is criminal.

  • @davie9578
    @davie9578 Před 11 měsíci +1

    sorry but 78 for Alonsos awareness? he watches the race on TV while driving it and managing the team

  • @jamiegriffith9887
    @jamiegriffith9887 Před 11 měsíci

    I think fernandos awareness is criminal, man literally watches the race on the track tvs and tells his teammate what to do while still being fully aware of what he's doing, needs to be at least 95 and overall 93 or 94