Ranking the 2023 Formula 1 Drivers
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That Piastri ranking is looking worse and worse by the day 😂
At least you acknowledge that!
L Take
I think he has proven given the weekend just gone that he doesn't even belong in "quality mid field" how many sprint wins does Lando have if their car is as quick next year he will be a force.
Respect for the acknowledgment, last driver victorious for McLaren: Hamilton, Ricardo and Piastri. He probably need he's own category like Charles but one tier lower at the moment. Keep with the great content, always nice to follow your content brother!!!
Once he can manage tyres he'll be a show of force for sure. Remember Lando has 5 seasons ... he has 2/3rds or one
Not placing Stroll in the bottom category is just full blown crazy.
Agree
Still better than Logan Sargeant
He was actually good at the start of the season which is the only thing that redeems him slightly
@@theracingguy4739 the car was just really good, it was hiding how bad stroll was
He's really bad, but he's not that bad
The "hes a rookie" excuse no longer works for Sargeant because Lawson and Piastri show that you can trust a rookie to do fantastic
This has been evident since the existence of Formula 1. Rookies with real talent have never indeed an exorbitant amount of time to show their class. When thrown into the deep end, it took them not much time at all to show why their position in Formula 1 was justified.
I think the “he’s a rookie, give him time” defense from teams should be translated to “we don’t have a realistic better option at the moment, so let’s just see if he gets better with time”
At the very least, every F2 champion should be given a chance to prove themselves with a full time drive in F1 atleast over one season.
so tired of all the "jUSt a RooKie" excuses. cant be in f1 and be THAT far off your teammate who himself isn't exactly cream of the crop.
He’s a rookie who wasn’t ready for an f1 seat yet. I just wish Williams had let him do another year in f2 to prepare him better rather than just throwing him in the deep end. Lawson benefited and developed greatly from doing super formula this year which is in my opinion part of the reason he’s adjusted so quickly (obviously he’s still a great driver but he definitely wasn’t anywhere close to drivers like Piastri prior to this season). Generally I think better drivers adapt faster and you can’t deny Piastri is just hands down a better driver but Sargeant was clearly fucked over by going into that seat to early and destroying his confidence.
you can't put Oscar in solid but replaceable because he litterally isn't replaceable
he's not replaceable indicated by the team wanting to keep him all the way until atleast 2026.
i think replacable is meant by if you put gasly or a ocon on mclaren, they will do better than oscar but the fact that oscar is a rookie, he will improve exponentially and be better than them after 1-2 years
@@lucaslow7590they would be having better weekends than Norris? Piastri had one incredible weekend
@@Cobycardshe’s had a couple of incredible weekends
@@nicolekovala 💯
Piastri should be a tier higher IMO. He is good enough already. Outqualifying Lando Norris in several races now is a big statement given the kind of Quali God Lando is. Piastri would beat Yuki, Kmag and Valtteri in a head to head, don't tell me he wouldn't. He is cool under pressure as well
He will be better than Lando in couple of years. No way he is replacable.
i agree 100%, i feel like its been so long to see a rookie this good and hes only gonna get better, i feel as tho he will be up there leclerc george etc in no time
Idk what he was thinking by placing him in solid but replaceable. Did he not know Oscar was always behind a race or 2 in upgrades?
Should be two tiers higher
@@gretsky3463I agree he should be a tier higher but what you said just isn’t true. Whenever Lando got the upgrades first Oscar always got them the next race. And sometimes he got the upgrades first e.g the rear wing. He also destroyed his upgrades when he got them first in I believe it was Canada. But I agree he is in Quality Midfield Drivers atleast.
Placing Piastri in the same category as Tsunoda and K-mag is crazy. Granted that he might not he Norris’s leved at the moment, but c’mon he drives with more maturity than Russel, and has better raw speed than Sainz.
Same sainz that regularly outqualifies Leclerc? I rate piastri but that's a strong statement
sainz outpaced norris both seasons at mclaren, and norris only gets the rookie excuse for the first one, plus sainz was new to the team as well
@charlieknight4521 you think from race 21 to 22 you suddenly become experienced and then from race 42 to 43 you just stop improving?
you still improve in terms of consistency and racecraft, but your pace doesnt improve. Max and Lewis were already as quick as they are now in their second seasons, but they had other flaws in their driving, which they've ironed out over the years. Lando has improved a lot since his second season and is fantastic, I just don't think his raw pace is there, and I expect Piastri to expose that next year
than sainz? on what planet
oscar being called "replaceable" and being in the same category as the likes of yuki and kmag is OUTRAGEOUS
switch perez for piastri and the list makes sense imo
Disagree. It is hard to be in that second red bull seat. Perez is not replaceable unless the driver has strong mentality and good pace. The last driver that we saw did well whilst being a teammate of Max is Ricciardo, and that was when he drive with full confidence.
Dude literally said don't over correct and this is an overcorrection.
Oscar Piastri was the class of the field in wet Spa quali, and that sprint was epic.
Oscar only missed out on Silverstone podium by virtue of bad pit stop/safety car timing - and he was much faster than Lewis who inherited that P3 and, as openly critical of his own car as Lewis has been, I think he’d openly admit that if he didn’t already. OP avenged that with a less brilliant but still bloody solid drive to P3 at Silverstone+ (Japan, if anyone is scratching their head). Rookie podiums aren’t exactly a dime a dozen and he should have two.
Oscar’s had some crazy starts and he’s been studying and working on Max at every single opportunity (ask Peter Windsor). Oscar has not been miles off Lando despite usually being one step behind in upgrades, and more impressively than anything:
PastryBoy81 had top 5 quali pace in Singapore, got stuck at the back of the grid and worked his way up to 7th - and unlike a trademark Russell or Pérez “We were the fastest car all race, aren’t I special?” recovery drive, he made no mistakes in qualifying (except existing at the same time as the green-clad window-licker) and typically for him made very little noise about his performance afterwards. He did all that in an old spec car and wasn’t far shy of Lando’s pace (not the first time that’s happened this season either) - and it’s his first race at goddamn *Singapore*. He was upstaged somewhat by Liam (and fair play to that guy because he well and truly made his mark), but he “qualified” 7 places behind the Kiwi and finished ahead of him. Slight difference in machinery, it has to be said, but still.
If you count a breakout performance at Spa, front rows and podium(s) in his rookie year and catching up to his monstrously fast teammate even as Lando has upped his game quite superbly, not being outclassed quite like other “second” drivers of note (points don’t tell the full story, as you say)
Replaceable?!? You’re having a laugh mate. 🫠 I’d stick him in borderline champions because I don’t think any one of your midfield drivers has a patch on him. Albon has Sargeant as a measuring stick. Hulk has KMag. Oscar has Land - somewhat stiffer competition. Maybe he’s not at Sainz level yet, but he has got more time than anyone and probably one of the best career starts of everyone on that grid bar The Dreadlocked One. The only ones that can let him down are himself and McLaren.
The Singapore drive alone would be sending a pretty strong statement of intent, but given the state of the car early season and the colossal experience deficit to Lando and year off fetching Otmar’s coffee, the whole season is just standout stuff, and I doubt there’s anyone in the know who isn’t watching the driver in car 81 🇦🇺🥐 very closely indeed. 😊😅
calling him replaceable is bizarre because if he was solid replaceable a team wouldn't sign a rookie to their team until 2026.
At Silverstone the pit stop/safety car timing is obviously bad luck, nobody can predict the safety car BUT we know Oscar still has some trouble with tyre life and had he been better with them in Silverstone he could have extended and pit under the SC, so I will say he was unlucky but his inexperience still played a part in it
@@ShittyUserNameNo the only reason why he pitted when he did was to protect undercut from Russell, it wasn't related to tyre deg issues.
@@ShittyUserName I can get behind that. Congrats on having better takes than names! 🫠
Damn bro wrote a whole book about a rookie
How is Oscar Piastri so low? Did you hit your head during the return from the summer break?
Perez over piastri aint no way
Yet, it will still probably be Perez his best season becoming vice-world champion.
@@boukek Hamilton isn't that far behind.
All day! In two years maybe, but Piastri will be a great no doubt.
Disagree. Without verstappen, he'd be champion.
Great list. I understand why Piastri is lower than I'd put him but I'd have put him in Quality midfield. I have to keep reminding myself he's received upgrades after Lando, and he's been improving every race
Agreed. He is not replaceable
I look forward to next year when Oscar is going back to tracks he has driven before (except China and Imola) and has more experience in tyre management.
Watching this post-Qatari sprint, Piastri making strides as a rookie and over Lando shows he’s without a doubt a champ-in-making.
26:29 Oscar in quality midfield is also an understatement now after his podium in Japan.
is it? mclaren easily had the 2nd best car and he was monumentally behind lando
@@no1washerezzHe's also a rookie in both F1 and at Suzuka Circuit. Remember, he out qualified Lando. His tyre management is still not quite there, but once he sorts that out he's easily on Lando's level. Future world champion material..
@@samvanhaaren Oscar is a fast driver and drivers at this level dont get faster so I would expect him on occasion to out qualify lando. It was .03
Its in the races that it matters and thats where the top drivers improve both in race and tyre management. You cant mark on the basis of potential . Only what he is like now and forget all the hype.
@@bjs7442 You become a more complete driver/consistent the more experience you get, whilst your raw speed stays the same you appear faster because you are more complete as a driver.
@@henrywilliams4170 Spot on . Exactly what I was saying
Here after Oscar won a race + finished only behind max on the actual race. Hahahahahahahahahaha
Sorry but Perez has no place above Piastri.
Put Piastri in redbull number 2 seat and he will be nowhere to be seen
Stroll should be in the latifi category
No, Stroll is miles better than Latifi, it is unbelivable to me how short of a memory does average f1 fan have
The point is that Stroll is an extreme liability to his team. He’s scored 20% of the points and cost them two or three place in the constructor.
No one denies he is better than Latifi. He is also the driver that should get fired by his team the most urgently. It’s not that it’s nit good enough. It’s absolutely disastrous.
You put Oscar Piastri in the Replaceable category? You're nuts.
For me, it goes like this (I'll use my own tiers, though):
Champion tier - Verstappen, Hamilton, Alonso;
Up there tier - Leclerc, Russell, Norris;
Solid tier - Piastri, Sainz, Albon;
Inconsistent tier - Perez, Gasly, Ocon, Tsunoda, Bottas, Hulkenberg;
? tier - Ricciardo, Lawson;
Filler tier - Stroll, Magnussen, Zhou;
Not F1 material tier - Sargeant, De Vries.
nah Magnussen is pretty decent in qualifying if you look closely. He's not been that far off Hulkenberg. Also I feel like there's a negative focus on Logan which is kinda getting to him. He's had good speed but it never comes together in a whole lap. He's then pushing way too hard after that which leads to the Mazepin/Latifi result.
This is actually a perfect list. Down to every last driver in the 2023 season.
Sainz is better or same tier as russel imo.
Solid list
@@barcafan94where were you in the beginning of the season? Just hating talking, not logic 🤣
Sorry Aldas…you totally lost it on the Oscar ranking…if a rookie is getting teams orders while in front of the more experienced “ championship material” team mate who is getting the preferential strategy and early upgrades (which is fair enough as he’s earned it) then Oscar is not just replaceable. The fact he’s got a junior career which is arguably about the best we’ve seen in a long time means he literally isn’t replaceable. Plus I think Oscar would pants anyone in your solid midfielder category right now
26:48 Oscar also got the upgrades one race later than Lando so he couldn't score the points that Lando could.
Oscar is all about potential and he has a lot of it. There were two main upgrades and affected two races. However in Japan there was a large disparity between Oscar and Lando in the race. I would have put him one place higher than Aldas but respect his reasoning. Its a case of how much weight you put on his few rookie errors and he has had some and whether potential is a valid thing to score and not reality. Its a judgement call as they say.
Oscar, currently 57 points and 9th in the standing, is placed below P11 of Gasly and P12 of Ocon, and I don't think these two will perform any better than Oscar in the Mclaren.
He need to be on the third tier.
considering the resurgence of the mclaren car, Oscar had a better car than the Alpine for the last 9 races, the Mclaren has been a top 3 car ever since then, Alpine was never higher than the 5th fastest car on the grid, I would say that the Alpine boys are doing a good job for the car that they got.
@elvincitore1512 well considering the clowns took each other out I have to disagree
@@elvincitore15121. None of what you have said is true at all. 2. On average, the Alpine has still actually been better over the course of the season (it is close now though).
Mclaren is a much better car than alpine
@@vukd9877 Redbull has an even better car, so are u placing Max any lower because of that?
Oscar watched this and took it personally this weekend
Max, Alonso and Lewis going at it with 3 equal engines in a 3 way sounds like the best season ever.
Max is a half tier above Fernando and Lewis currently. He is untouchable.
Oscar PIastri should be in the midfield tier.
Piastri seems to have more potential than Lando even, I think he's going to be the next driver to win a championship other than Max
Without a doubt. He’s taking the fight to Lando even when Lando has received all the recent upgrades well before Piastri.
We can't say for certain. Since 2018, people have been citing Leclerc as the next champion, and since 2019 it was Russell. Piastri has potential, but it's almost impossible to guess who'll be the next driver to win the championship.
I’ve been saying the same thing. I get that the mclaren has not been good for most of Norris’s career, but if he’s the talent that people are making him out to be he should have a win by now. Ocon, Gasly, Russell and Sainz all have wins and Norris doesn’t. For Piastri to be this close to Norris in his rookie season shows he’s a huge threat.
@@soundgardengodsYou literally just explained why having a win is virtually meaningless
@@Vislow I’m just pointing out that drivers who are typically deemed less talented than Lando and who were driving worse or similar cars to the McLaren have wins and Lando doesn’t. The one chance he had for a win he basically told his team to fuck off and then he proceeded to go off track. He has an entitled attitude and very little results to back it up.
Bruh his Oscar ranking is going to comeback to Haunt him, Oscar is already in Borderline champion material
Piastri even right now should at least be one level higher. He’s on the ascendency and is definitely a future championship contender
Piastri is NOT replaceable. He is a Leclerc type of driver.
Should have put Piastri in better category. Maaaan, he is a race winner now
Nah, piastri is either in borderline champions or quality midfield, id definitely put him in quality midfield drivers.
I'll agree that Piastri has a promising career ahead of him, but I wouldn't put him at the borderline tier just yet, however, I must say that he is, indeed, far too low in the category, atm, he should be a tier up Checo (if he was at replaceable tier) or at least at the same one, rookie or not, he would be a hard man to replace at McLaren right now.
I don't care if he is a rookie, Oscar not being in quality midfield driver is a crime. I don't think Ocon or Gasly would be performing better than him in the McLaren
Bro really created a category called "Latifi", I almost died xD.
Should be Goatifi tier and on top.
How you feeling since you called Oscar "Replaceable" and now he's on pole in Qatar?
I definitely think Bottas and Piastri are above Perez. We never saw this from Valtteri, we were getting annoyed when he was getting P2 and not beating Hamilton.
Perez should be 2nd bottom, Aldas has sometimes common sense he said that hamilton hasnt had outstanding performances but is consistent, he has never had the second quickest car the entire season apart from spain, mclaren has,astonferrari..
@@barcafan94 Yes agree but not spa bro forgot about mclaren and the times he had the 2nd quickest car he got p2 so, when alonso had second fastest car he didn't put on pole close but not there
Facts Mercedes messed up replacing him.
Verstappen rates Alonso, Hamilton, himself and Norris (sometimes Leclerc) as the best. I think that says everything we need to know about Norris. It also says what he thinks of Leclerc's insane qualifying pace. Likewise, game recognize game with Alonso and Hamilton.
Leclerc has more than insane qualfying pace when Ferrari actually have a car that can race, he showed that in 2022, his race pace was far superior to Sainz in the same car, dropping 8 seconds in 5 laps, and Sainz is no slouch ofc.
@@barcafan94 room temp iq aka u not seeing what sainz is doingthis year lil bro
@@barcafan94 0 wheel knowledge spotted
@@barcafan94 facts would be how consistent sainz has been and stats how sainz beat lec in 2021 :)
@@keramik1269 you have 0 understanding of driving skill
Oscar for me is more borderline champion than Carlos, Charles en George. Maybe not yet, but one of the best rookie seasons in long time.
Oscar in the same category as Tsunoda, Hulkenberg, Bottas and KMag is borderline criminal
I think this is the first I’ve EVER agreed w/a pundit on every single driver assessment & I’ve been watching F1 for 25 years. You’ve got strong common sense + intelligence (common sense is rarer). And, again, your tier system is the best rating system I’ve seen.
If you put Oscar in "solid but replaceable", then you need to make some serious adjustments to the naming of the tiers.
Even before the qatar sprint, I don't know how you put oscar that low... inbetween green and yellow bud
LOL .. according to you the "REPLACEABLE" Oscar not only won his 1st race in his rookie season before his so-called "FUTURE CHAMPION" much experienced teammate Lando but also out-classed him on race-day by getting better podium position. LMAO.
I KNOW ITS HARD TO SWALLOW BUT YOU GOTTA SWALLOW IT NOW 😂
I am perplexed by Oscar’s rating. He’s scored almost exactly half the points of Lando not a third. He hasn’t been given upgrades at the same time and Lando was able to score big points in those races. I think given they has the same car Oscar would only be 20 points behind which to me easily puts him in quality. Also Checo is replaceable.
Oscar had the Upgrades always a race later.
Thats why Lando was, for axample, great in Austria, and Piastri in the back with the orange tractor
14:05 hottest take of mine from a Vettel fan who is still upset Leclerc beat him: Leclerc is an unbelievably great qualifier (on par with Verstappen in terms of just one-lap pace). He and Hamilton are genuinely insane in qualifying.
In qualy it isn't a hot take he is as good as max but I'm not saying better because the rb18 wasn't really to max liking and even the rb19 isn't like unbelievable in qualy because of the set up
Anyway Charles definitely as good as max in qualy
That’s damn right slander on piastri right there
the fact that you managed to do some sort of normal distribution shows that you are really good at grading. Most people overpopulates top categories or puts all the categories with the same number of individuals. Great job
I actually think a lot of drivers are misplaced, but these weird tiers don’t help either
I would agree with some here about Piastri being a bit low, i don't think we can say that if he's gone it won't show. On the other hand, too many here are underestimating Perez, he's clearly feeling the pressure, and that car and team are definitely not suited to him, remember what he could do at Racing Point. I agree with where you put him and everything you said about him
Oscar needs to be in the catagory above where you put him. Hes scored half of the points lando has, 1/3. Lando on 115 and Oscar on 57
Oscar only got his groove in silverstone and he is a rookie,not hard for lando to beat him consistently,especially since oscar is a rookie and has bad race pace due to it,lando can just complain to get the position.Currently oscar probably would be losing to checo by a 30 point gap if they were in that mclaren
Lando in my opinion has proven to me he is better than russel who just cant be excused and leclerc is definitely better than russel this season,but even though lando doesnt make many mistakes i dont think he is on the same level as leclerc(due to me believing leclerc would crash far less if ferrari give him a car that suits him like max who gets a car 100% made for him),if leclerc just stops crashing he is on par with max,currently i think leclerc is better than lando
Piastri, Ricciardo and Bottas are wrongly one step bellow. The rest of them are in the right place.
Piastri in the "Solid but replaceable" is a joke 😅
Great video Aldas bro. I was one of them who differed with you on Logan as you were critical. But now i realise comparing to Latifi 2020, logan is no different unfortunately
Piastri is at least 25-30 points lower than where he should be. He was unlucky at silverstone with a safety car (3points), got taken out by Sainz at Spa costing him 4th or 5th(10-12points), got taken out by Lewis at Monza (4points), received the upgrades after Norris twice (cost him at least 10points), was undercut by his team 3 times to prioritise Norris even when Piastri was faster(3-4 points). Piastri shoukd be sitting on at least 80points which is only 35 points behind Lando who has 5 years of experience. Most of the tracks he hasnt even seen before and still has managed to out qualify Norris consistently recently. Piastri will beat Lando next year imo.
Piastri doesn't get latest McLaren upgrade and yet he is still solid driver. Put him in Sargeant seat and he will score point.
I think you are still rating Russell WAY over his actual abilities. All the drivers in "Quality midfield" have been more consistent than him and have extracted more out of their car than George had compared to his teammate. Especially Oscar, who has had one of the worst cars for half the season now and has only been out of the top 5 when others have taken him out of the race. Russell impeded his teammate 4 times this year that I can remember off the top of my head and cracked under pressure (while not in a championship fight), so I fail to see how he is anywhere near "Borderline champion".
I'd stick my neck out to say Pastri is borderline champion material, even though he hasn't proved it exactly and he defo isn't there right now, but idk, my spidy senses say he's the real deal, even better than lando once he nails the race pace, I think next season he will be smashing lando
putting ricciardo and stroll in the same category is borderline criminal
How do we rank Piastri now? Is it really outlandish to rank him Borderline Champion?
I wonder where Piastri would be on the list now.
Mate, the Piastri placing must be your worst call of all time 😂.
Harsh for piastri in my opinion. If you recall, when the Mclaren was crap, Lando was getting prioritized for the upgrades and those upgrades were bringing performance. He's done amazing for his first year, he has a lot to learn, but definitely shown more and I would have graded him one step up
Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍...
Just my opinion, but Piastri is not a replaceable driver in any respect. If McLaren give them a challenging car, Piastri and Norris could challenge for a title. Post Qatar, he deserves to be borderline champions. A rookie race winner isn’t something we’ve seen in years
Leclerc best of the best no doubt. Amazing driver.
How is rookie Piastri replaceable as a rookie? Same with Liam.
Hulkenberg solid but replaceable.
I think read it from matt and tommy, Leclerc didn't really made that much mistake in 2022 comparing to other wdc contender like 2021 LH , it feels like a lot cuz he is going against Max and Max only made 1 or 2 from the start of 2022 till now.
The Oscar rating is just bonkers, to use the points gap as justification for his position is ridiculous. Lando has out performed Oscar, but the upgrades have extended the gap. To put Perez in the category above and then say he probably would have scored a podium with McLaren is bizarre, because you know who has done that, Oscar.
You need to update this after Qatar. Piastri needs to be at least solid midfield, maybe borderline champion.
Also Fernando and Hamilton are not driving at the same level as Verstappen. Alonso might be kinda close, but Lewis is clearly not faster than Leclerc or Norris
Even if currently, Piastri is not as good of a driver as Nico or Alex, putting him in the "Solid But Replaceable" category is wrong.
I think the problem is how you named your categories rather than going S tier, A tier, B tier, C tier, etc. Your category names imply some sort of context that isn't there for some drivers.
Piastri is absolutely NOT replaceable, he's a rookie who is performing extremely well even if he's just a bit behind his more experienced teammate. If anyone at McLaren thinks Piastri is replaceable they are crazy.
I would agree with you placing him in that tier if you labelled the tiers as S tier, A tier, B tier, C tier, etc.
I honestly never understood the hype around Russell. What did he do to be seen as a a future championship winner? He is as mistaken prone as Leclerc without the raw pace. This season he is really showing his limits. He is underperforming against a Hamilton who is getting slower.
It's mainly down to his junior career (winning GP3 and F2) and the few standout opportunities he had (Sakhir 2020, Spa 2021, Brazil 2022, and more). I feel he has the skill, but he needs to get rid of his dumb mistakes. Even back in Williams, he crashed out behind the safety car in Imola 2020 (which was a chance for points), so it's not something he picked up recently.
He could be a champion if given the right circumstance, but he does also have a few flaws he needs to improve on to become a force to be reckoned with.
@@barcafan94 Finally someone with great knowledge is speaking facts.
@@barcafan94 Leclerc makes quite a few mistakes in qualifying and practice sessions though. His last crash in that sense was Zandvoort this year (if I'm correct).
Practice crashes means the teams can't gather data, Quali crashes means he starts the race from a bad position, and both together cost the team to rebuild the car. He doesn't crash as much on race day, but he is prone to mistakes in other sessions.
@@barcafan94 You should count practice sessions as well. Crashing a car still means the team needs to rebuild it (which now adds to the cost cap), and practice crashes take away valuable track time for the team to gather data. It's not just Leclerc, any driver that crashes in practice deserves to be criticised (it's not as bad as crashing out in quali or race, but it still is not ideal for the team).
Leclerc is a fast driver, but he crashes a lot more than Verstappen, Alonso, Hamilton, Norris and Piastri. Ideally, he shouldn't be doing that, regardless of whether it's in practice, qualifying, or races.
@@barcafan94 Yeah, he's definitely been improving recently. My problem though is I'm still not confident that he'll go the rest of the season without a crash. If he does, then I'll be impressed with him.
piastri has scored 1/3 of mclaren's points and roughly half of lando's btw :>
If the current performance trends are continuing in the future;
Piastri will soon go from a quality midfield driver to a borderline champion, and Hamilton will go from borderline champion to quality midfield.
People are slandering Tsunoda too much, I think he has had a stellar season, just very unlucky at times. The car he is working with is pretty horrid, and people forget that there were a LOT of dnf's in the Singapore race, where Lawson scored his P9. Piastri is also too low, first podium in rookie season is NOT replaceable. Who would you get instead of Oscar that would deliver a podium and that is available? there is noone.
Agreed both of them deserve better
Piastri should be in future world champion category. Delayed upgrades and rookie season!
Oscar Piastri solid but replaceable ???🤣🤣🤣 I am sure you know he receive upgrades later than Lando and has no experience on tyre management . Replaceable ??? 🤣🤣🤣
Piastri solid but replaceable are you good? Are you watching what we’re all watching
Not so sure how much I agree with Piastri hay👀I feel like people were talking about LeClerc like he was a future world champion in his rookie season but I don’t get why Piastri isn’t in the same conversation🤔
I usually agree with most things you do, but rating Piastri as solid but replaceable is a laughably ridiculous rating. He’s had a podium in a Grand Prix and a sprint race.
He is Killing it as a rookie. Almost every team on the grid would kill to sign him if they could. Get real stop with the rookie bias. He is a future champion or a competitor for one at least.
At a minimum he’s in the solid midfield driver category. He is simply orders of magnitude better than the drivers you lumped him with.
Oscar is the best rookie in F1 since Max and Lewis.
This is a rating you need to reconsider.
@@barcafan94they both are having great rookie seasons
@@barcafan94 I respectfully disagree. Charles’s best finish as a rookie was sixth and his best qualifying position as a rookie seventh. Oscar has finished as high as third and qualified as high as second. Charles’s finishing position in the drivers championship as a rookie was 13th. Oscar will finish much higher than that.
Of course Lewis came within a point of winning the championship as a rookie so to me his rookie season was the greatest in F1 history. But as a rookie I would rate Oscar higher than Charles.
@@barcafan94 Fairpoint. I certainly think Leclerc had a strong rookie season for being in a lousy car.
But empirically I can’t call it better than Oscar’s season.
I really love this tier system because it allows so much more sensible ratings. Like, Ricciardo might be borderline champion or solid, but replaceable. We can’t be sure yet. It also allows you to put the best drivers in the same tier without a huge argument by having to rank one above the other, especially when the cars are so essential.
Soooo Piastri has scored more points than anyone in the tier above in his rookie season, but he is ranked lower than those drivers? Even though he won the last 3 consecutive championships he entered in his rookie year.
I'll say it in every f1 conversation I have this year, Nando has that DAWG in him. Absolute masterclass
Womp 4 putting OP81 & LS18 in those spots
😂
If Sargeant continues like he's doing right now it'll be soon Sargeant category instead of Latifi
This was so good I listened to it twice.
I agree except for Piastri. I would put him in Quality Midfield.
No way is Stroll in the same tier as Zhou and Danny Ric 😂
Good video aldas!! But as a Leclerc fanboy for my sanity, at the end of the season please do a GP by GP breakdown of the highly contested teammate pairings to properly evaluate who had the best season...points aside. Let's look at the actual performances
Piastri in that category?! Absolutely not done.
The replaceable got pole for sprint race
Great ranking. I really go along with you. I would have rated ascar one level above at first but you have a point that he is not performing like that YET.
So i totally agree.
Leclerc has to be higher then Sianz. When the ferrari was a race winning car last season Charles showed his quality over Sianz. Carlos is a very good driver, but better suited for the upper midfield, whilst Charles is a future world champion
I disagree; as the American Football coach, Bill Parcels, used to say, you are what your record says you are.
Still 0 wins in 2023, crashes 24/7, can't say no to his shit team strategies...
I get that the comparison to his teammate cannot be helped but ignoring the four years of F1 experience between them is total bonkers. You did Oscar dirty with this one.
ahhh im really struggling with your oscar placement.... but at the same time totally understand it hhaa solid list in my opinion though sir and great video yet again. up the toffees
This season really shows why max, Fernando, and Lewis are World Champions, and Leclerc, Norris, and Russel are still “future” champions! The champions are all proven to be able to keep their cool and manage to stay calm throughout a race. The others are all fast, but still a bit emotional on race day. Experience speaks volumes!
Piastri really got done dirty.
I think you could’ve had an “exciting prospect” tier in regards to Piastri
Sprint race and p2 on race …. Not bad for a replaceable driver
piastri quality midifield and perez something to prove grows everyday on me
Piastri placing is a crime
In my opinion lando has been on par with alonso this year by time end of the season comes I bet lando will have more podiums
He stalled a car at a race start, that's never happening to Alonso.
Late to watch but I'm so curious to see what you think after the conclusion of the 2023 season
You did Oscar so dirty with this.
Oscar Piastri is "Solid But Replaceable"
This is after he was on the podium in his rookie season and also signed a new contract with McLaren. 😂
Botched opinion