Our F1 Driver Ratings for the 2023 British Grand Prix

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  • @mattp1tommy
    @mattp1tommy  Před 11 měsíci +32

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    • @tomasartica
      @tomasartica Před 11 měsíci

      @mattp1tommy P-L-E-A-S-E!
      Make a short video discussion on what each of you think would have happened if McLaren made the right decision and put both Lando and Oscar on Softs to finish the race:) Thank you and keep up the great content. Cheers!

    • @reygada8491
      @reygada8491 Před 11 měsíci

      Please please change the intro, it's way too creepy XD

  • @conflict-tv
    @conflict-tv Před 11 měsíci +826

    What a week, Lando and Piastri driving like they stole the McLaren, Matty squealed like a girl when Lando nicked P1, 1+ hour of P1 Podcast content and Daniel Ricciardo returns to F1. Is this the real life?

    • @MarcosCodas
      @MarcosCodas Před 11 měsíci +45

      Is this just fantasy?

    • @DevJMD
      @DevJMD Před 11 měsíci

      @@MarcosCodas caught in a landslide...

    • @TheMissiIe
      @TheMissiIe Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@MarcosCodascaught in a landslide...

    • @Sassybella
      @Sassybella Před 11 měsíci +18

      Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy?
      Caught in a landside, no escape from reality
      Open your eyes, look up to the skies and see
      I'm just a poor boy, I need no sympathy,
      Because I'm easy come, easy go, little high, little low,
      Any way the wind blows doesn't really matter to me

    • @conflict-tv
      @conflict-tv Před 11 měsíci +9

      @@Sassybella tooooo meeeeee 🎶

  • @abroughear
    @abroughear Před 11 měsíci +280

    Current Ordered Standings -
    Drivers:
    Total - Avg
    191 - 9.55 - Max Verstappen
    168 - 8.40 - Fernando Alonso
    151 - 7.55 - Lewis Hamilton
    141 - 7.05 - George Russell
    136 - 6.80 - Alex Albon
    136 - 6.80 - Lando Norris
    131 - 6.55 - Sergio Perez
    128 - 6.40 - Charles Leclerc
    124 - 6.20 - Yuki Tsunoda
    123 - 6.15 - Esteban Ocon
    123 - 6.15 - Carlos Sainz
    122 - 6.10 - Pierre Gasly
    117 - 5.85 - Oscar Piastri
    112 - 5.60 - Nico Hulkenberg
    111 - 5.55 - Zhou Guanyu
    105 - 5.25 - Lance Stroll
    098 - 4.90 - Valtteri Bottas
    087 - 4.35 - Logan Sargeant
    085 - 4.25 - Kevin Magnussen
    070 - 3.50 - Nyck de Vries
    Teams:
    Tot. - Avg - Pos
    322 - 8.05 - 1 - Redbull
    292 - 7.30 - 2 - Mercedes
    273 - 6.83 - 3 - Aston Martin
    251 - 6.28 - 5 - Ferrari
    245 - 6.13 - 6 - Alpine
    253 - 6.33 - 4 - Mclaren
    194 - 4.85 - 10 - Alpha Tauri
    209 - 5.23 - 8 - Alfa Romeo
    223 - 5.58 - 7 - Williams
    197 - 4.93 - 9 - Haas

    • @t3ss33
      @t3ss33 Před 11 měsíci +35

      There he is, the man, the legend!

    • @bruh-uy3vn
      @bruh-uy3vn Před 11 měsíci +5

      Legend

    • @abroughear
      @abroughear Před 11 měsíci +19

      @t3ss33 lol, it wasn't even me in previous weeks, but it'd been a bit and the other guy hadn't posted yet so I just did the math myself and copied his (excellent) formatting

    • @OrangePukeko
      @OrangePukeko Před 11 měsíci +16

      Seeing Perez above the likes of Yuki and Oscar just seems wrong, but those early performances are floating him for now.

    • @TheBest14184
      @TheBest14184 Před 11 měsíci +18

      @@OrangePukekobecause he gets a 5 for results like this. For me this is a 2 or 3 performance from Checo. They are rating him way too high

  • @trautsj
    @trautsj Před 11 měsíci +80

    If that safety car had happened 30 seconds sooner/later so many people would be looking like heroes. Piastri would have snatched a podium and George would have looked like a genius for that soft stint.

  • @PuppyGames.
    @PuppyGames. Před 11 měsíci +39

    Oscar Piastri blew me away at Silverstone. I already was convinced that Norris had the talent to fight with the "greats" but sir Oscar Piastri, what the bloody hell was that performance? I can't wait to see more of these two McLaren drivers. They got me more excited over F1 than I've been for a long time.

  • @eamonahern7495
    @eamonahern7495 Před 11 měsíci +232

    Hopefully Yuki shows his class alongside Danny. Hopefully Alex Albon gets plenty more points scoring opportunities in the Williams.

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 Před 11 měsíci +13

      Yuki has his moments but "class" is not exactly a word I tend to associate with him

    • @Louis_Bautista
      @Louis_Bautista Před 11 měsíci +2

      ​@@soundscape26And that's why I'm such a fan. He's like a mini Kimi, he doesn't give a f

    • @heisenballs
      @heisenballs Před 11 měsíci +6

      ​@@Louis_Bautistaexcept Kimi was good.

    • @zordiark9673
      @zordiark9673 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@heisenballs Kimi last good Race was USA 2018, he went pretty fast downhill after that. There was not a single solid drive with Sauber/Alfa.

    • @hemanpremiu3848
      @hemanpremiu3848 Před 11 měsíci +5

      ​@@zordiark9673I have to disagree. First half of 2019 Kimi was regularly challenging for points in the top 8. Finished p5 in Brazil
      And then there was the incredible start in Portugal 2020. In tricky conditions where the performance is more or less equalised, Kimi was still performing well

  • @jonathaniwasczyszyn2876
    @jonathaniwasczyszyn2876 Před 11 měsíci +85

    De Vires - Started 18th Finished without a drive

  • @Alan.livingston
    @Alan.livingston Před 11 měsíci +96

    Piastri had to be told to hold station behind Norris. Defs a 10/10.

    • @066kshitizvsingh4
      @066kshitizvsingh4 Před 11 měsíci +10

      tbf, the only reason Piastri appeared faster was that he had DRS and Lando Didn't. He was asked to hold station because him overtaking Lando would've resulted in Lando becoming faster, literally reversing the situation.
      He did apparently have the nest start of the top 3 but couldn't do anything with it in the end

    • @chichurp
      @chichurp Před 11 měsíci +21

      He was faster when lando was in max’s drs so you’re wrong

    • @michaelb3798
      @michaelb3798 Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@066kshitizvsingh4he also has less upgrades

    • @Hydrnaught
      @Hydrnaught Před 11 měsíci

      Yes he did, that's because he was about to wipe the floor with young Norris....

    • @066kshitizvsingh4
      @066kshitizvsingh4 Před 11 měsíci +7

      @MysticCoder McLaren prioritizes the driver in front, not just Lando(see Monza 2021) .Plus in races where Piastri was in ahead of Lando, Lando was put on the experimental strategy. BTW if it weren't for the safety car, with the way the strategies were lining up, Piastri would've more than likely finished above Lando.

  • @TheSimEngineer
    @TheSimEngineer Před 11 měsíci +132

    Would be great to add a separate team rating for the 2024 season

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 Před 11 měsíci +4

      Just add both cars.

    • @greschbandicoot8817
      @greschbandicoot8817 Před 11 měsíci +4

      ​@@soundscape26and how does that include pot stop performance and strategy calls from the team?

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 Před 11 měsíci

      @@greschbandicoot8817 It doesn't, was just being pragmatic. 😄 Don't wanna burden the guys too much.

    • @brky4497
      @brky4497 Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@greschbandicoot8817if they fuck up their drivers will be lower. Ferrari is a perfect example.

    • @BarbaricAvatar
      @BarbaricAvatar Před 11 měsíci

      Why? To have a go at the pit crew being 0.3s slower than someone else?

  • @crown3536
    @crown3536 Před 11 měsíci +113

    You guys should rate the teams as well, based off of pit stops and strategy… etc.

    • @emanuelecaselli6395
      @emanuelecaselli6395 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Is that referred to a team in particular?

    • @crown3536
      @crown3536 Před 11 měsíci +18

      @@emanuelecaselli6395 it would be nice to see matty dissect what ferrari did in the race…. I mean no team in particular 😂

    • @spiral_heart8239
      @spiral_heart8239 Před 11 měsíci +3

      Yea, it would be interesting to talk about who has the most solid team this season, since it's obviously not Red Bull. Also which teams are improving the most. Right now I'm really impressed with Williams and McLaren.

    • @RDuckie
      @RDuckie Před 11 měsíci +2

      THIS!

    • @ryanchivwara5013
      @ryanchivwara5013 Před 11 měsíci +2

      ​@spiral_heart8239 yeah redbull have sucked this season lol. Jk

  • @abuhrman989
    @abuhrman989 Před 11 měsíci +236

    Fully agree with Logy sarg. He has been very impressive the last couple races

    • @truthteller8730
      @truthteller8730 Před 11 měsíci +1

      I am just worried about loggie bear without devries around to help prop him up now and now that red bull has kind of broken the seal on replacing a rookie after 10 races will merc start pumping up shumacher again because loggie bear's seat is the only seat that makes sense for MS right now or even for next season he isn't bumping anyone else.

    • @abuhrman989
      @abuhrman989 Před 11 měsíci +5

      @truthteller8730 I think as long as loggie doesn't drop back to P18 or lower constantly this season he will be safe for next year to have a P11 and P13 in a Williams is solid especially with it being the most recent weeks. Now if he went P13 and P11 to start the year and than a bunch of P18s and 19s later in the season he would be worried but JV has been hyping him up alittle in recent weeks and he's also keeping relatively close to albon which helps his cause alot too

    • @MrLoe0
      @MrLoe0 Před 11 měsíci

      He will never make it sorry guys

    • @abuhrman989
      @abuhrman989 Před 11 měsíci

      I think at worst case there are 5 people that could lose/give up their seat depending on how the rest of the year goes. #1 Kmag, he has been shitting the bed the last couple weeks more than we are all used to seeing and expecting. #2 bottas, he just doesn't seem to really care right now with what happens in the race, he could get P17 and act like everything's cool. #3 Alonso, this one is more of the give up, if he feels AM is favoring stroll to much and he has to drag this team in the constructors and he's not getting a solid number 2 driver to help I could see him leaving or retiring if they don't pick up their pace. Last but not least checo, he's had way to many problems in the best car on the grid to have 4 podiums in 10 races while max has yet to be any worse than P2 all year.everyoen else I feel is relatively save enough to start next year

    • @abuhrman989
      @abuhrman989 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@MrLoe0 make what?

  • @jasonhenry9440
    @jasonhenry9440 Před 11 měsíci +294

    If Lewis is getting a 7, I'm giving checo a 4, because he also benefitted from the SC and was really getting nowhere before that

    • @t3ss33
      @t3ss33 Před 11 měsíci +34

      Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Perez pit before safety car? Sure he profited from the field coming together but he didnt benefit as much as he could have.
      I am not impressed by Perez simply because it took him ages to plough through the field, but his overtake against Sainz was beautiful to watch. Taking into account his partially bad luck in qualifying, I think a 5 is fair.
      Regarding Hamilton, a 7 is more than fair. I found Russell much stronger than Hamilton. Outqualifying him and finding the pace on the softs for 28 laps or so... remarkable. Hamilton purely profited from the safety car and then wasn't even able to overtake Norris who of course drove and fought beautifully.

    • @AlexSteenOlsen
      @AlexSteenOlsen Před 11 měsíci +23

      Imo George should have a 9 and Lewis 8. What the hell is Tommy talking about both 7, but giving albon and sargeant 9 and 8. Smh🥱🤦‍♂️

    • @ua697
      @ua697 Před 11 měsíci +20

      Another lucky podium to Lewis

    • @t3ss33
      @t3ss33 Před 11 měsíci +11

      @@AlexSteenOlsen I dont know, I like to rate apart from the final standings (In the end that is the purpose, right? Otherwise just take the final standings). For me Hamilton had a solid but not a particularly remarkable race. The safety car suddenly flushed Lewis on the podium. Albon on the other hand had a good race including a memorable overtake. Maybe a 9 is to high, but an 8 certainly. Same for Sargeant, maybe 8 is abit too high and he should settle for a 7. With Williams in particular, expectations play a role and exceeding expectations is just easier for Williams than it is for Mercedes.
      My ratings are of course as subjective as everyone's

    • @Roguescienceguy
      @Roguescienceguy Před 11 měsíci +13

      ​@@AlexSteenOlsenon what ground should Lewis deserve anything more than a 7. George was close to a 9 though. I have seen far more impressive drives from him. His Quali was meh, bottled his start and did he even do an on track overtake? Was gifted that third place by the VSC. By his standards that was only barely a 7.

  • @teera4080
    @teera4080 Před 11 měsíci +69

    Oscar is scary good keeps improving every race and his only just getting started

    • @Gl-my8fw
      @Gl-my8fw Před 11 měsíci +10

      He won f3 and f2 in his 1st year. Best prospect since max

    • @maxgodfrey4985
      @maxgodfrey4985 Před 11 měsíci

      But you also forget that if it wasn’t for Oscar pushing Logan off the track in that first F3 year, Logan would have been the champion. Guess y’all forget the little things.

    • @Gl-my8fw
      @Gl-my8fw Před 11 měsíci +17

      @@maxgodfrey4985 it isnt relevant. He won and was champion. All the greats do what is needed to win. Would you say senna or msc accomplishments don't matter because both of them did far worse things.

    • @justinwilliams9291
      @justinwilliams9291 Před 11 měsíci +13

      @@maxgodfrey4985that’s some fine salt you got there Oscar drs wasn’t even working and still beat Logan

    • @spicykking2854
      @spicykking2854 Před 11 měsíci +8

      ​@@maxgodfrey4985and you forgot that it was Oscars first year in F3 compared to Logan's second. Plus, Oscar won 3 consecutive titles in a row, and dominated in his rookie year in f2. He's also far closer to Norris than Logan is to Albon, with Lando being a better driver and having his team more built around him.

  • @rodbrown8306
    @rodbrown8306 Před 11 měsíci +42

    Piastri was pretty fantastic all weekend, rookie who should've podiumed if not for the safety car compromising his 3rd place likelihood att. 10/10 drive imo.

  • @robertsmith6804
    @robertsmith6804 Před 11 měsíci +20

    Good to see Piastri getting the credit he deserves. Keep up the good work chaps.

  • @thomasrombout780
    @thomasrombout780 Před 11 měsíci +126

    Why not do an average at every end of the drivers rating? So you can see progression or downfall of every driver and potentially team. I think this would be a nice addition.

    • @t3ss33
      @t3ss33 Před 11 měsíci +41

      wait for our legend in the comments ;)

    • @Lastname6955
      @Lastname6955 Před 11 měsíci +5

      ​@@t3ss33the king himself

    • @light4299
      @light4299 Před 11 měsíci +9

      ​@@Lastname6955that MF is one of my favorite guys. He literally updates this every race. I dont know how much free time that guy had.

    • @hattorihaso2579
      @hattorihaso2579 Před 11 měsíci

      Would be cool

    • @vrccb
      @vrccb Před 11 měsíci +1

      Great idea (as long as 'my boy' gets good ratings!)

  • @sagittated
    @sagittated Před 11 měsíci +18

    "Consolidates his place as 19th in the championship!" 😂

  • @aditsood9369
    @aditsood9369 Před 11 měsíci +9

    Current Ordered Standings -
    Drivers:
    Total - Avg
    191 - 9.55 - Max Verstappen
    168 - 8.40 - Fernando Alonso
    151 - 7.55 - Lewis Hamilton
    141 - 7.05 - George Russell
    136 - 6.80 - Lando Norris (↑3)
    136 - 6.80 - Alex Albon
    131 - 6.55 - Sergio Perez (↓2)
    128 - 6.40 - Charles Leclerc (↓1)
    124 - 6.20 - Yuki Tsunoda
    123 - 6.15 - Carlos Sainz
    123 - 6.15 - Esteban Ocon
    122 - 6.10 - Pierre Gasly
    117 - 5.85 - Oscar Piastri (↑3)
    112 - 5.60 - Nico Hulkenberg (↑1)
    111 - 5.55 - Zhou Guanyu (↓1)
    109 - 5.45 - Lance Stroll (↓3)
    098 - 4.90 - Valtteri Bottas
    087 - 4.35 - Logan Sargeant (↑1)
    087 - 4.35 - Kevin Magnussen (↓1)
    070 - 3.50 - Nyck de Vries (RIP)
    Teams:
    Tot. - Avg
    321 - 8.03 - Redbull
    292 - 7.30 - Mercedes
    277 - 6.93 - Aston Martin
    253 - 6.33 - Mclaren (↑2)
    251 - 6.28 - Ferrari (↓1)
    245 - 6.13 - Alpine (↓1)
    223 - 5.58 - Williams
    209 - 5.23 - Alfa Romeo
    199 - 4.98 -- Haas
    194 - 4.85 - Alpha Tauri
    Edit: Sorry I couldn't post early this week but it was because this was posted at 1 am for me. Thanks to @abroughear for taking up the task this week

  • @matthewprice9416
    @matthewprice9416 Před 11 měsíci +72

    A 5 for Perez seems very generous

    • @screwball992
      @screwball992 Před 11 měsíci +5

      Agreed he just isn't making the most of that car he's in one of the most dominant cars in history yet is being out qualified by a hass.

    • @kaanthedesperate
      @kaanthedesperate Před 11 měsíci

      Hoe did stroll get 3 and 4???

    • @akorthouwer
      @akorthouwer Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@kaanthedesperate they swapped the Perez stroll grades and looking whether we wouldnt notice

  • @dukcy7450
    @dukcy7450 Před 11 měsíci +73

    I think Piastri deserves drive of the year as finding so much pace from the upgrades and being able to fight Verstappen at some points is unbelievable, definitely looking far more than a rookie still getting used to F1 cars. 11/10

    • @neznamneznam1696
      @neznamneznam1696 Před 11 měsíci +6

      Piastri was awesome for a rookie but Norris was better.

    • @Roguescienceguy
      @Roguescienceguy Před 11 měsíci +2

      ​@@neznamneznam1696in the race? Not in the race. He got unlucky but his pace was epic giving that he missed some of the upgrade part.

    • @yourDecisi0n
      @yourDecisi0n Před 11 měsíci +12

      @@neznamneznam1696Actually Piastri is pretty much on par with Norris. Piastri and Norris trade places nearly every race. Sometimes Piastri is better, sometimes Norris. For a rookie this is highly impressive, especially because for me Norris is one of the best drivers on the grid. In Silverstone Piastri was just unlucky due to the safety car and for sure would have been on the podium otherwise

    • @Tomekkplk
      @Tomekkplk Před 11 měsíci

      Driver of the year based on... 1 race?

    • @yourDecisi0n
      @yourDecisi0n Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@Tomekkplk Driver of the year based on all the races. He was incredible this years thus far, especially for a rookie

  • @trulsdirio
    @trulsdirio Před 11 měsíci +47

    5/10 for Perez is insane, that was a solid 3/10 at best. You got the best damn car and can't make it to Q3 again and again and again?

    • @Roxas-ph3te
      @Roxas-ph3te Před 11 měsíci +3

      He also benefitted from the safety car like Lewis did, and he got a 7. Perez a solid 3

    • @martijnjonkers2179
      @martijnjonkers2179 Před 11 měsíci +1

      I have to agree, dude misses every mark compared to his teammate

    • @ua697
      @ua697 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@Roxas-ph3teNo, he didn't

    • @Roxas-ph3te
      @Roxas-ph3te Před 11 měsíci

      @ua697 He was able to get bunched up to the field thanks to the SC and be on soft tyres. He definitely benefitted. He might have finished p8 otherwise (p10 before the SC)

    • @ua697
      @ua697 Před 11 měsíci

      @@Roxas-ph3te He was P8 before he pitted !

  • @samsonlovesyou
    @samsonlovesyou Před 11 měsíci +5

    Not only was Piastri on Lando's pace, but he had to be asked not to attack him. Then he did the smart thing by dropping back out of the turbulent air and kept the interval to about 2 seconds. Lando had to use up some of his first stint tyres defending from Max, and I felt Piastri was favourite for P2 if allowed to race for that reason. Also, hardly anyone has talked about to his start because all eyes were on Max and Lando, but if you watch his positioning, he did everything right to gain a position or two, but just narrowly missed out. It reminded me of Hamilton's first ever start in Australia 2007, moving around on the track quickly trying to pick a gap, just with less luck.

  • @Martin-di9pp
    @Martin-di9pp Před 11 měsíci +16

    Very curious about how the McLarens are going to perform in the coming races! Little point of criticism: it's called Driver Ratings but sometimes the scoring is influenced too much by what the rest of the team is doing, like Ferrari messing up strategy again...

    • @alinhatnean6783
      @alinhatnean6783 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Hungary is gonna be like the Astons in Silverstone, points and kinda it, but the hopes are high in Spa. I think is gonna be interesting to see tho

    • @hbrown689
      @hbrown689 Před 11 měsíci

      ​​@@alinhatnean6783ased on their current form, Spa, Suzuka, Qatar and COTA could be very strong tracks for them

  • @Yetabronz
    @Yetabronz Před 11 měsíci +4

    Seeing stroll pov, the reaction he had while seeing magnussen dnf was hilarious, he wanted to wait for sc and the team ordered him to box. He knew his race was done and that’s why he probably went all in on gasly in my opinion.
    Go check his pov right before magnussen dnf, the hand gestures in despair it was so funny.

  • @JMRope
    @JMRope Před 11 měsíci +4

    If the pace McLaren had at Silverstone is genuine and transfers to other circuits I suspect Lando and Oscar will have a lot more 10s coming. I hope for Lando's sake he is still improving though because based on that performance from Oscar by the end of the year he may well be the quicker of the two. I wouldn't be surprised if Oscar gets a win before Lando does.

  • @Emarq31
    @Emarq31 Před 11 měsíci +6

    Piastri is dialed in, I'm sure it's taking a lot, even though he's cool often times but it can't be easy. I love the focus but I hope he also finds time to decompress so he doesn't burn out

  • @oscarthomasfifa4871
    @oscarthomasfifa4871 Před 11 měsíci +53

    Honestly Perez should have gotten a 1 or 2 this weekend. To go out in q1 in by far the best car and finish 6th because he got lucky with the safety car has honestly been a new low for him unfortunately this season. Hope he can finally bounce back next race

    • @Muhammadtyson0block
      @Muhammadtyson0block Před 11 měsíci +1

      If he even comes back next year

    • @ua697
      @ua697 Před 11 měsíci +2

      He pitted before the safety car, so he basically lost 10 seconds compared to most of the cars in front of him.

    • @Dyonvdm
      @Dyonvdm Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@ua697 10seconds in a car thats like a second a lap quicker then most other cars.

    •  Před 11 měsíci +3

      I like Checo a lot. But... he lacks confidence, he is looking for excuses, underperforms on qualifications, underperforms on races (with that RB, he should easily get through the field).
      I don't know... He's way better than this. Definitely wasn't a 5/10 from him. Lower. 3/10 at most.

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@Dyonvdm Only Max can extract that second... but didn't even happen at Silverstone.

  • @fudidle
    @fudidle Před 11 měsíci +8

    Matt is such a die hard ferrari fan he made his face red

  • @jkliao6486
    @jkliao6486 Před 11 měsíci +5

    Initially, I was like now there is no way Logy Bear is gonna finish P20 this season, given Nyck is unlikely to improve over the rest of the season, and then I realized now we have a 21 person race and the difficulty has just massively ramped up for Logy bear to finish at least P19.

  • @BlueRada
    @BlueRada Před 11 měsíci +11

    As a Williams fan this is the video I’ve been waiting for all week

  • @gideonhenstra1049
    @gideonhenstra1049 Před 11 měsíci +5

    You Guys are so nice about perez. Giving the ferrari drivers a 5 without them doing anything wrong so giving perez the same grade, should be a one since its the fifth time

  • @Biscotti.
    @Biscotti. Před 11 měsíci +6

    Going to start calling him Oscar Pastry with how sweet that drive was 😤... McLaren officially has one of the best driver pairings now.

  • @TFSMF2
    @TFSMF2 Před 11 měsíci +5

    I wish Nyck De Vries all the best of luck in finding another seat or at least a reserve role next year but I don't think Mercedes will be keen to have him back given how well Frederik Vesti is doing and how integrated Mick Schumacher is in the Brackley simulator

  • @avina95
    @avina95 Před 11 měsíci +5

    Tommy, I believe that Sainz didn’t take upon himself to make the decision to switch tires because he wants a contract extension so he has to play nice and let them make the decision

  • @mavadelo
    @mavadelo Před 11 měsíci +25

    As a MaxVerstappen fan I fully support the first and second place above Max for the McLaren drivers as done by Tommy. They were awesome this weekend. I hope to see more of this from them this season.

    • @justusbeweel1109
      @justusbeweel1109 Před 11 měsíci +4

      Lando 1, max 2 , Oscar 3 would be the correct order imo, but it doesn’t really matter. Lando got the best out of the car, so did max . Oscar could have gotten P3…..

    • @deemplane6836
      @deemplane6836 Před 11 měsíci +4

      @@justusbeweel1109 But he didn't because of the safety car, if the race was just a few laps longer he would've even gotten Hamilton. Oscar is either the number 1 or 2 for me

    • @mamavswild
      @mamavswild Před 11 měsíci +1

      Lando 1, Max 2, Piastri 3…I agree with you on Max only because he got a slower start than Lando and didn’t lead for four laps (oh the Humanity!! Max what happened?😂)
      Max has set such a high bar I literally have to go for the microscopic stuff to pick him apart ratings-wise.
      And the only reason I put Lando above Piastri was Lando held off Lewis in such a nail-biting fashion that I found myself actually pacing, unable to sit down.
      Piastri driving like a future WC. McLaren is gonna end up losing one of them (Merc when Ham retires, RBR in place of Checo or when Max gets too bored to stay?) because another team is going to offer the WORLD for one of them…they can’t keep BOTH can they?

  • @viggo7296
    @viggo7296 Před 11 měsíci +20

    now im just waiting for the guy who combines all the scores for this season

  • @rb0042
    @rb0042 Před 11 měsíci +11

    Can’t wait to see Ricciardo vs Hulkenburg since those cars seem a bit similar when comparing De Vries and Magnussen

    • @marantamil459
      @marantamil459 Před 11 měsíci +1

      If Ricciardo is back, it will be very close between them like in the Renault days.

  • @amritmohanty4152
    @amritmohanty4152 Před 11 měsíci +10

    I don't think Lewis deserves the same point as alonso, maybe an 8 would be fair. Same for yuki, alpha is just bad and he has consistently beaten his team mate in all the races so maybe a 4 was rough. But again it's your opinion and I love you guys anyway

  • @tuttutteddy8889
    @tuttutteddy8889 Před 11 měsíci +8

    Could you guys do driver ratings for past races? Like the 2004 french gp

    • @Sassybella
      @Sassybella Před 11 měsíci +8

      Would be amusing off season/summer content - do a watchalong of a vintage GP and then driver ratings

  • @gonzalosanchez6387
    @gonzalosanchez6387 Před 11 měsíci +17

    I think you should give a team rating too. Taking into account car evolution and team strategy. Just a thought.

    •  Před 11 měsíci +2

      That would be nice! Ugh... the roasting Ferrari would get for their masterplans™...

    • @mzhuang4242
      @mzhuang4242 Před 11 měsíci

      Definitely agree! Some drivers are suffering from infinite car issues, bad strategy, or simply slow cars with useless upgrades.
      The comparison between the drive rating and the car rating should be very considerable.

  • @mafi1302
    @mafi1302 Před 11 měsíci +5

    Mclaren has the most future-proof driver lineup on the grid. If they can figure out the car development part, they won't have to look back.

  • @atedejong5620
    @atedejong5620 Před 11 měsíci +4

    Agree, 10 for Piastri!!! Amazing drive from him.

  • @Usedtobebillie
    @Usedtobebillie Před 11 měsíci +1

    “Would’ve anyone else been able to pass?” . Once again Matt talking about Lewis like he’s a midfield driver, driving for alpha Romeo. Still love you guys, despite the Lewis disrespect and Checo hate every single week. I just can’t miss a second of it. Cheers.

  • @joshuachipling6923
    @joshuachipling6923 Před 11 měsíci +5

    If they aren't going to sell AT and keep it as a sister team how about they start using helping them more. I'm also wondering if DR has had AT sim time and knows something Yuki and Nick haven't been able to extract or if some upgrades are in the works ?? I guess we will see on the weekend if it is actually as bad as it has looked over the last 10 races. Banger of a video as always lads, keep up the great content.

  • @Barfyman362.
    @Barfyman362. Před 11 měsíci +2

    Sargeant has always done well at Silverstone, it’s where his f2 season turned around. I thought this would be where he’d score his first points.

  • @michaelbauer4065
    @michaelbauer4065 Před 11 měsíci +8

    Lando's performance was top tier *chefs kiss* Verstappen admitted after the race he was one lap from tires over heating and backing off, Lando was begging his strategists to wait for a safety car or rain because his tires were doing great. Absolutely top tier performance and I'm excited for Hungary to see a better fight now that Lando and Oskar know they can compete with Redbull.

    • @mamavswild
      @mamavswild Před 11 měsíci +1

      Max may very well have been speaking…generously regarding his mate Lando.
      And he’s not going to give up RBR’s secrets. He was pulling away before the late safety car by over half a SECOND per lap.
      His overtaking of Lando was utterly inevitable. If he was going to back off at all it was only going to be for a moment.

  • @beauty.of.the.struggle
    @beauty.of.the.struggle Před 10 měsíci

    I hope that you add all these up for each driver at the end of the season

  • @chux27
    @chux27 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Would be good to have a Team rating too as sometimes where a driver ends is down to a team decision and not the driver

    • @kaanthedesperate
      @kaanthedesperate Před 11 měsíci +1

      They are doing a team rate anyway
      They dont rate the driver they rate the car
      How is stroll getting 3 and 4, perez 5
      Wtf??

  • @noblegamer871
    @noblegamer871 Před 11 měsíci

    Comments for the algorithm!!! Thank you for the contents! Always love it!!

  • @Dat_kiwi22
    @Dat_kiwi22 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Here for when Mclaren finish no better than 8th in Hungary and everyone then flips and changes their mind again on McLaren saying that their Silverstone pace was a flash in the pan, only for them to turn around and boss Spa.

    • @yannickvaz694
      @yannickvaz694 Před 11 měsíci

      I think they'll be around P5 or P6 in Hungary, battling with the Mercs but behind Red Bull Aston Martin and Ferrari.
      1) Max
      2) Ferrari 1
      3) Alonso
      4) Ferrari 2
      5) Perez
      And between P6 to P8 is a battle between Mercedes, McLaren and Stroll. Maybe they'll finish higher if one of the Ferrari drivers or Perez has a bad weekend. Spa will be another superb weekend for McLaren though (assuming nothing goes wrong).

  • @Kermisreporter
    @Kermisreporter Před 11 měsíci +8

    I notice you rate the drivers every video in the same order. Is it not an Idea to score the drivers in finishing order? :)

    • @richtes
      @richtes Před 11 měsíci

      Might make easier to talk about the team and driver vs driver?

  • @Synthyus
    @Synthyus Před 11 měsíci +14

    Gotta love the black and white filter over De Vries’s slide. Should’ve added some red in there for a “wasted” screen vibe

    • @gameofender4463
      @gameofender4463 Před 11 měsíci +3

      They’re saving that for Leclerc’s championship hopes/potential this year. 😂

    • @mischavanasperen3063
      @mischavanasperen3063 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Checo's slide should be a BSOD.

  • @krahnica
    @krahnica Před 11 měsíci

    Great episode as always gents. Keep it up!!

  • @bbb229
    @bbb229 Před 11 měsíci

    10:00 Oscar did have the upgrades here
    14:50 Not only Russel, but even Nyck de Vries did an pretty good long stind on Softs with that Thrashcan AT.

    • @philg2468
      @philg2468 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Oscar still had the old front wing, but got the upgrades that Lando got the previous race.

  • @zohkine2129
    @zohkine2129 Před 11 měsíci

    Just wondering if you boys have considered adding to this segment? It would be awesome to see your rankings for the teams as a whole too! It would be interesting to differentiate between the teams and the drivers. Love the vids! Best in F1!

  • @willparish9624
    @willparish9624 Před 11 měsíci

    Lando this weekend was very similar to george at Australia. Hell of a perfomance, would love to see those 2 in a championship battle

  • @TotaledBoot
    @TotaledBoot Před 11 měsíci

    16:03 matts face after the cut is the last thing you want to wake up to at the foot of ur bed pure nightmare fuel

  • @adam346
    @adam346 Před 11 měsíci

    the only thing I struggle to watch are the built-in ad-breaks while paying for premium CZcams!

  • @christianrichter9611
    @christianrichter9611 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Hey @mattp1tommy, I am always wondering what do you base your grades on? Like, ok that alpine should be 9th to 12th so 9th is 6 points 12th is 4, and then going higher or lower ? Or just giving points on feeling ?

    • @kaanthedesperate
      @kaanthedesperate Před 11 měsíci

      They are dumb man
      They dont rate the drivers too only the cars.
      How is stroll a 4 and perez a 5
      They literally fucked up and was horrendous. I'd give them 1-2 or smth and they deserve only that

  • @random_username_thats_not_used
    @random_username_thats_not_used Před 11 měsíci +1

    19:34 considering how well tommy's predictions are usually going piastri is about to become Nico Hulkenberg 2.0

  • @mgers75
    @mgers75 Před 11 měsíci +2

    I usually refused to give a 10 rating when a driver cant beat his teamate, so I imagined a loophole to allow Oscar to receive a 10. He get's leeway cause he doesnt have the new front wing that Lando was running therefore it can be excused that he got beat. Im convinced Oscar is a future race winning F1 driver for sure after Silverstone performance and a benchmark driver.

  • @ryanshek4101
    @ryanshek4101 Před 11 měsíci +1

    everyone on about how lucky Lewis was, but they seem to forget how quickly Lewis catching Russell and Sainz just before their pitstops, he was at least .5 seconds quicker and will stay out a lot longer, if it wasn't for the safety car, Lewis will have 15-20 laps with his super soft compare to the rest (with the exception of Lando and Max) with their much older hard/ medium, it is a shame we didn't see that.

  • @Skreezilla
    @Skreezilla Před 11 měsíci +1

    It is great news to have a fast talented Australian on the grid! oh and i think Danny Ric is coming back?

  • @skysimpson1313
    @skysimpson1313 Před 11 měsíci +1

    This has never happened but I’m 100% with you on the driver ratings this time. I think you nailed them, and even as a redbull fan, it’s hard to rank max because it’s like do you not give him a 10 because he’s always 1st, or do you always give him a 10 because he’s always 1st. I’m honestly considering he’s been replaced with AI robot by his cats, they want him winning all the time so they will always have food.

  • @ros879
    @ros879 Před 11 měsíci +1

    "Fortunate" lol. When Russell was getting these safety car lucks left right and center, no one said "fortunate", but instead words like "beat" were used. Interesting

  • @EmersonTelevision
    @EmersonTelevision Před 11 měsíci

    what was with the mono applause SFX in the left channel only?

  • @austinwest4074
    @austinwest4074 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Rookie weekend of the year so far!!! Lets see these young guns tear some shit up!!

  • @swampthing94
    @swampthing94 Před 11 měsíci

    Nyck won't even get a chance to race at his home gp. It must hurt like hell

  • @DirtComplex
    @DirtComplex Před 11 měsíci +5

    Hamilton gambled for a safety car and got a safety car. That isn't just luck. That's experience and making hard choices to try and gain places. If Williams did that strategy you guys would be giving a better rating. I'm not even a Lewis Hamilton fan but I think he deserves an 9/10 for pushing his Mercedes into 3rd place.

  • @deceptismgaming
    @deceptismgaming Před 11 měsíci

    Great race. I did find it interesting that the redbull wasn't top at the end of Q1 and Q2 when DRS was not enabled. Goes to show the power of the DRS on the red bull

    • @mamavswild
      @mamavswild Před 11 měsíci

      I really don’t think they were trying to be honest. Instead of ‘they’ I mean Max, sorry 😅
      Just trying to get through and keep the tyres fresh.

    • @caro2501
      @caro2501 Před 11 měsíci

      Max did top Q2 session though!

    • @deceptismgaming
      @deceptismgaming Před 11 měsíci

      @@caro2501 sorry my bad!

  • @jrruss453
    @jrruss453 Před 11 měsíci +1

    As a mclaren/lando fan, that was the most exciting and stressful race I’ve watched in 2 seasons! I’ve been shouting it from the rooftops! Give him a car and watch him go! 10/10 for a mclaren fan

  • @jbys134
    @jbys134 Před 11 měsíci +1

    This is the earliest I've ever been to any video 😂

  • @BRPerfections
    @BRPerfections Před 11 měsíci +1

    Same rating for George and Lewis was a smackhead move. George was just faster this weekend and got screwed.

  • @einstijn138
    @einstijn138 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Bro Matt took a massive longshot by saying De Vries was gonna lose his seat to Daniel and he turned out to be right. Now he's saying Daniel is scoring points in Hungary...

  • @tigerchuu2148
    @tigerchuu2148 Před 11 měsíci

    I don't know if I agree or disagree with the Sainz rating, but what I will say is that, Sainz decided not to pit because he would have lost places doing so and looking at the pace of that Ferrari, he probably would not have been able to overtake since everyone around him were also on softs. So I think the decision to stay out, gain positions and try to defend made sense. If it didn't workout he'll finish around the same position as he would have if he stopped anyways (assuming they can't overtake)

  • @ua697
    @ua697 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Oscar was unlucky with the safety car, but Checo benefited ? (Both drivers pitted before the safety car)

  • @d3al3rplays68
    @d3al3rplays68 Před 11 měsíci +4

    Did you guys know that Max can finish all remaining races incl. Sprints in 2nd place and gets 2 fastest laps he will be champion by 1 point.
    And Checo must win everything and pick up all fastest laps to win from Max.

    • @screwball992
      @screwball992 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Yup the season is truly wrapped up.

    • @richtes
      @richtes Před 11 měsíci

      Checo needs to get into Q3. He doesn’t look like he’ll finish ahead of Max without a Max DNF

  • @adf311
    @adf311 Před 11 měsíci

    did i see an explorer on the wall? nice!

  • @yashwanthkolli5573
    @yashwanthkolli5573 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Verstappen stands at 255 points after 10 races with an average 25.5 points each race. He’s averaging more than a race win

    • @mamavswild
      @mamavswild Před 11 měsíci

      That’s madness. Max is inevitable. It’s not just the car. He’s just…grown up. He’s like Godzilla now.

  • @oIZemiixo
    @oIZemiixo Před 11 měsíci

    I do wish lando would of fought max just a little bit just to see that battle but I understand lando not wanting to damage tires and deplete battery that early in the race.

  • @angelosky_PR
    @angelosky_PR Před 11 měsíci

    Lando leading the first 5 laps was amazing 👏🏾

  • @slay3r930
    @slay3r930 Před 11 měsíci

    James Vowels basically saved Williams he’s helping improving the team quite a bit since he became TP

  • @timothyward6644
    @timothyward6644 Před 11 měsíci

    How do you feel having to grade Danny Ric next week?
    Welcome back. Love from Texas

  • @zenunogoncalv
    @zenunogoncalv Před 11 měsíci +2

    Who’s winning Monza from third place after 2nd tangles with Max at turn 1? Lando or Oscar? (I’m not falling into the trap at all 😅)

  • @offroad_addict
    @offroad_addict Před 11 měsíci +1

    Do A team rating like driver ratings

  • @IndianConnection
    @IndianConnection Před 11 měsíci

    I am now wondering if you guys gave a lesser rating if a driver benefitted from a safety car in your previous ratings!

  • @patrykklimczak5896
    @patrykklimczak5896 Před 11 měsíci +4

    I personally think that Sergio should get a 4 or even 3 for this kind of performance. I never considered him a real threat to Max, though i still believed he is solid enough to pick off some wins and then get a lot of second places in top car.
    Not getting into Q2 is beyond awful result without any technical issue. Cutting through the field in the fastest car and finishing only 6th is definitely below average performance in my book.
    Always wished him the best but if he stays at level he was those few last races I won't feel bad if he gets switched out in old Red Bull fashion.

    • @kaanthedesperate
      @kaanthedesperate Před 11 měsíci +1

      How can perez get a 5
      How can stroll get 3 and 4
      They rate the cars not the drivers.

    • @mamavswild
      @mamavswild Před 11 měsíci

      What bothers me is that every race he is making excuses and blaming other people, never taking accountability and saying ‘I need to do better’.
      I expected more honestly

    • @RhomasTotevenaar
      @RhomasTotevenaar Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@kaanthedesperateboth should get a 1

  • @DialedN_07
    @DialedN_07 Před 11 měsíci +1

    @P1 with Matt & Tommy Can we get a drivers rating running total during these videos?

    • @lorenvalentyn5192
      @lorenvalentyn5192 Před 11 měsíci

      I'm sure they mentioned doing a mid year review during the summer ☀️ break

  • @vasuca1tutoriales
    @vasuca1tutoriales Před 11 měsíci

    Hulkernberg looking like Homelander 3:55

  • @carspn1
    @carspn1 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Logan would've been 13 without the Gasly/Stroll contact. He was good but not great

  • @williamwade7059
    @williamwade7059 Před 11 měsíci +2

    I can't wait for Williams to have two cars in the points. 😂

  • @caleb5792
    @caleb5792 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Is that a demon behind Matt at 14:24?😂😂

    • @Sassybella
      @Sassybella Před 11 měsíci +2

      Or he's being haunted by the ghost of Leclerc's winning drives 😂😂

  • @rupertmiller4718
    @rupertmiller4718 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Actually I think both Lando and Oscar both possibly have just a little bit more than either Charles or George, they have had a tougher route than Charles certainly and Lando makes fewer mistakes under pressure than either, with Oscar not far behind. Now if McLaren can learn how to consistently build a race winning car that suits their drivers they might just be able to hang on to them

    • @yourDecisi0n
      @yourDecisi0n Před 11 měsíci +2

      I would argue that Charles has the toughest route in Ferrari, haha. The team is shit, especially when it comes to communication and strategy

    • @rupertmiller4718
      @rupertmiller4718 Před 11 měsíci

      @@yourDecisi0n It always has been and requires the toughest driver to overcome that, Lauda and Schumacher being the obvious examples. When Charles started there, the car was good and could win, and he had a mellowed and friendly Vettel to learn from. ironic that the team's most successful period came with A German driver, a French team principal, A british technical director and a South African designer, a team put together by Luca Di Montezemolo, who is probably the president Ferrari needs right now. Even with it chaos, though it has beej better than McLaren for most of the last decade.

    • @yourDecisi0n
      @yourDecisi0n Před 11 měsíci

      @@rupertmiller4718 Yes that's true, only Ferrari destroys their own potential at races where they could get good points. This will most definitely rob the drivers of their confidence long term and that's already what you see at the moment. Ferrari is no place to be for a driver at this current state

    • @LucasMueller04189
      @LucasMueller04189 Před 11 měsíci

      @@rupertmiller4718 Don't compare current Ferrari to 2000s and the 1970s Ferrari. Completely different teams mate

  • @pratikapshinge1627
    @pratikapshinge1627 Před 11 měsíci +2

    So I have a question: when the aston martin is washed at a circuit and alonso does decent enough and benefits from the safety car, he gets a 7/8 and on the other hand lewis getting a podium from 9th on the grid at the start in a car that wasn't was, in your own words, not that great gets a 7? Bleh, come on, that's not fair is it? Not to mention checo gets a 5 after being out in Q1?

    • @prashant41191
      @prashant41191 Před 11 měsíci +1

      They have a clear bias buddy. Their hate for Lewis is evident. Safety car scenario is for everyone but they act like it is only Lewis who is allowed to drive at full speed during safety car. If he outsmarts others with stratergy that's not considered. I can guarantee if it was Alonso in his place they would have rated 9 or 10.

  • @billbaggins1688
    @billbaggins1688 Před 11 měsíci

    Red Bull got Daniel to do some test driving in the Red Bull, which is telling. The Alpha Tauri spot is to warm him up for a Red Bull seat in 2024, unless Checo improves vastly.

  • @duffyt26
    @duffyt26 Před 11 měsíci +1

    This is a happy comment and all your opinions are on point. Happy happy times, baaaaiiiiiiiiiii!

  • @F1TalksRacing
    @F1TalksRacing Před 11 měsíci +6

    Y'all need to write what you rate the drivers before saying anything, you guys always agree on the same rating

  • @porridgeboss
    @porridgeboss Před 11 měsíci

    You guys mixed the pictures for VB and Zhou.

  • @nickwall2497
    @nickwall2497 Před 11 měsíci

    Is Tommy a Leeds fan wearing The Square Ball merch?
    If so, good lad!

  • @FromTheDeck
    @FromTheDeck Před 11 měsíci

    I don't know if "wiping the field" applies this race. The gap was 9 seconds before the SC, usually it would be a 20 second lead, and after the SC it was 3.7 seconds. The RB19 was still the fastest, but not the dominant, impecable car it has been during the season.

    • @executeabi8220
      @executeabi8220 Před 11 měsíci

      would've been more than 9sec had Verstappen got a start comparable to the mclarens and not been held up. RB19 was still dominant

    • @FromTheDeck
      @FromTheDeck Před 11 měsíci

      @@executeabi8220 It didn't, so would haves don't apply

    • @executeabi8220
      @executeabi8220 Před 11 měsíci

      @@FromTheDeck exactly so car was dominant, just verstappens start was sub-par. Slow start -> held up behind lando -> defending against Oscar = losing time. Also stuck in dirty air means overheating the tires so lost more time there