Fanatec CSL Elite V2 Pedals Review | Long Term | Sim Racing Load Cell
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
- After a few months of intensive use in competitive circuit racing, rally and drifting, I've drawn some big and potentially controversial conclusions with these pedals. Has Fanatec's involvement with real life motorsports raised the bar? (for product links, click "Show more")
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Start: 0:00
1. Introduction: 0:29
2. First Impressions: 1:36
3. Price: 2:53
4. Installation - Hardware: 3:35
5. Installation - Software: 4:44
6. Throttle: 5:20
7. Clutch: 6:01
8. Brake: 6:31
9. Adjustments: 8:27
10. Final Thought: 11:14
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Hi Laurence~ May I ask for a quick advice? Ignoring the price difference, how is this Fanatec CSL Elite V2 Pedals compare with Heusinkveld Hltimate (non-plus version)? Will you also go fo this CSL Elite V2? Thanks a lot!
Thanks Laurence. My other pedals were acting up so I purchased these on your initial impressions. Love ‘em. They are simple and work!
Yep there's a lot of value in simplicity. It has its limitations but the brake makes it all worth it :D
Thanks for this guide, the clearest explanation of the V2 in it's current state I've seen on CZcams. Instantly subbed!
Thanks so much for your kind words. A lot goes into my reviews so words like yours make it worth it
Have had these pedals for around 3 months now and didn't realise I could horizontally move the individual pedals, so thanks for that. I've kept the 3x65 stack at 40% strength (in the software) as didn't use a load cell before. Without doubt this pedal set has, possibly inadvertently, taught me how to trail brake with much more consistency. You have me intrigued to now stiffen up slightly with a 65-75-85, as shown in the video!
Haha yep exactly, these pedals encourage good habits and consistency. Feel free to experiment :) remember to take a pic of your previous configuration before you change anything :)
@@LaurenceDusoswa They are in sale at 199 EUR/USD right now.
I decided to purchase these yesterday. For years now I've been using G29 (although heavily modified) pedals which was fun, but now it's time for an upgrade. Happy I went for these after watching your review.
Awesome! You’ll love the upgrade
i just bought these coming from G29 pedals. Was a bit underwhelmed as I expected more after the reviews. But then came to realize they come out of the box with the weakest elastomers and spring (and thus a fairly long travel like my old pedals). Changed those to stronger ones and now they feel just awesome! At this price I can really recommend them to anyone.
Yep these pedals can do it all. You might be really disappointed if you ever buy €1,000 pedals and realise that you don’t even get that much more than you do with these pedals. Thanks for the comment? Hope all is good
I use the Pedals since 2 Month and love them. I only use the Break and Throttle so i placed the Break on the left. The Clutch Pedal had more resistance than the Throttle and because of that, i use the Clutch Pedal as a Throttle Pedal to have a better feeling.
Great idea! Did you also swap the little stopper to reduce the travel of the clutch too?
@@LaurenceDusoswa no i have not. I don`t know that you can do that.
I did the same. And yes, you can swap them.
I did the same and it’s simple to switch the stoppers. These pedals are amazing and after I switched the clutch in for the throttle I wouldn’t change a freaking thing.
I've just got a set too and would like a firmer throttle, is it simple to switch the clutch spring or is there aftermarket stronger spring replacement?
Edit, sorry, the springs cannot be changed out, just the pedal placement swapped around?
I just ordered these pedals. Thanks for the great review.
Finally another review!! Dropped everything the second I saw the notification.
Many more in the backlog that need clearing. lots that are 80/90% finished but just need that editing time
@@LaurenceDusoswa I'm looking forward to all of them!
I went and bought a set of these after you and every other reviewer said such great things about them when they were released. Upgraded from my g920 pedals, potentiometers had gone from sawdust. DIY wood rig problems. Since then I’ve done a bunch more work and got these pedals good and dusty with no issues ever showing up. They’ve been flawless despite being pulled off and remounted 10+ times. Best way I can think to describe the brake pedal is mindless. In a good way that is. Is just disappears beneath my foot and the car just does what I want smoothly and predictably. Truly a worthy upgrade and glad I followed reviewers advice and got a good pedal set before upgrading to a direct drive wheelbase.
I haven't actually watched any other reviewers' thoughts on it to try and keep my opinions uninfluenced. Delighted you're enjoying them and enjoying sim racing! Thanks for the great comment!
@@LaurenceDusoswa tbh it’s remarkable that you haven’t watched any other reviews and yet everyone seems to have come to the same conclusion. Brake pedal is as good as you’ll ever need and that’s what really matters, clutch and accelerator are good enough to not be an issue.
I bought these pedals and my loadcell failed after about 6 months and fanatec has not responded to my service requests for 2 weeks now. Fanatec customer service has been so bad in my experience I will not purchase anything from them again. I would advise everyone against buying these or any other product from fanatec. I will update this post with comments if anything changes.
WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED WITH LOADCELL ???? DID SHE BREAK? OR WHAT ??? TNX @@alecmillea4539
Lesgoooo! Really sold on these pedals, if ever a used set comes up I'll definitely snag em to compare to my V3s
Notification SQUAAAAAAAWWWWWD
I had the chance to try those at the Expo and I was also very impressed. I had the V1 in the past and I agree is a step forward (even though a bit more expensive than the V1s at the time)
yep a little more expensive. But totally worth it in my view. excellent value
Hey! Thanks for the nice review!
Question: How would you compare these pedals with the Prima ones?
Thanks!!
I use the original CSL pedals. I watched a review on boosted media's channel and ordered the v2s ,the selling point was the fact that the load cell sensor is at the base of the pedal whereas the v1s was at the top which meant that from time to time I would notice that my braking wouldn't be enough because my foot slid down on the pedal face and the force wouldn't register on the sensor ,so hopefully that won't be the case with the v2s
Yeah it’s completely redesigned but they also made it better than anything else in its price range 😂😂😂
These are great from everything I've seen and heard👌🏻 I believe that they will make the V3's somewhat redundant. With the BPK and USB adapter included it could be a sign of thing to come🤞🏻 I'd imagine next time we see a new pedal set from Fanatec it will be in the Podium line.
Yeah I think you're right. I think that the CSP v3 will continue to be a reliable seller for them and they'll keep it alive until sales die down. That said, I'm not sure what their strategy is :p
I'm ditching my Clubsport pedals, ordered these after trying several mid to high end sets. The gas & clutch (which I don't often use) are fine, nothing special but I was amazed by the brake pedal. I've used load cells since I started out, but this one is something special. I actually think that it's very close to the high end Asetek and another unpronounceable, unsellable make, both of which were around 3× the price. Wow, Fanatec have really done sim racers a massive service with the CSL DD 8Nm & these CSL ELITE V2, got to be the best sim racing combo going. Now I just got to wait for my delivery to arrive.
@@oktc68 How do the V2 pedals compare to the V3's? and which do you find better? in Australia, the price is $499 for the V2's and the V3's are $549 (plus $29 for the Brake Performance Kit)..... so if price wasn't an issue, which would you go for? Cheers 😄
they are on sale today in the black friday week --> 199€, i already ordered 🙂
Yep.. absolute insanity… great deal!!!
Did the same. Was in the fence between these and the Clubsport V3 but after watching this video and others while reading the comments, opted for the Elite V2s since the brakes were uh…the dealbreaker for me 😂
These pedals are better on the brake then the v3 for sure. It's just so good and everytime I used the csl elite older pedals I always went god I wish there was slightly more momentum before all of the pressure and boom I come back and they did it! Lol
For me even the gas feels better then most in this price range also imo that is. It's not so loose its crazy.
Out of all the different pedals I’ve tried, I came right back to the CSL elite V1s! I was faster and more consistent. I understand people wanting to spend loads of $$$$ for realistic looking things, but if it’s pure pace you’re after…Do not turn away from the V1s and now the V2s!
Many say the same about Logitech non load cell pedals. Just be careful with your advice. You don’t upgrade to a better race car and instantly expect to be as good as others in that car. It’s very tempting to go back to your comfort zone. Proper load cell brakes make you slower for a little while as you learn how to use them. It’s like learning a new language.
Either way, your comment will help people to make up their own minds
@@LaurenceDusoswa Respectfully, I am always careful with my advice. I started Sim racing when I was 4, I am now 31. I also started racing real cars at the age of 16. If I give advice to do with racing, It's because I've experienced it. Same reason fellow sim racers come to your channel. You have tested and experienced these pedals for a while and we know and trust, that you can give us the real advice we are looking for, when making a purchase such as these pedals. You have a great Channel Laurence and these pedals do look SWEET! thank you for taking (I am sure a lot of time) to make this great review!
What you go for V2's or V3's? (this will be my first and final LOL setup)
At 2:36 of you video you can brake so much. Is it with the 65 elastomers and the blue spring? I notice you have not put the additional ring back inside the spring. Is this by mistake or intentional? The problem i have is that i cant push the elastomers so my like in your video. Even with 3x65 my brake barely moves. Do i have to do something with the elastomers so that they soften abit like yours? Because now my brake is so incredible stiff.
It could just be the camera. Film it the same way and you will see more movement on video than you can see with your eyes
I switched from BJ Steel F1 pedals to CSL Elite V2s because of my seating position. I swapped the gas and clutch because I like a stiff throttle and they're perfect for me. I don't think I'll ever need higher end pedals than these. Also the throw distance was way too long for me, so I took some M6 rubber spacers and double sided taped them to the stops behind the pedals.
wow interesting. also great solution for the brake. I had a look and it looks nice and easy to mod
I did the pedal swap too its perfect
@@Boknier you switched from the BJ too?
I'm Slightly confused. I swear the post I was commenting on was someone saying they had csl peddles and bought the V2's and found that the clutch swapped out for the throttle has a much better feel. And that they got the V2's on ur recommendations. I did this swap exactly and the purchase based on ur opinion. I absolutely couldn't be happier. I'm thrilled to hear your thoughts and opinions on this set match my own as I have only just 8 months ago found sim racing. So ya, not sure how my comment got here, and thank you for all your work. It has helped me personally very very much. Sorry for the confusion.
You can swap the bump stops between the accelerator and the clutch
hello. I currently have the CSL pedals without LC. I use them leaning against the wall. I don't have Cockpit nor can I have one. With the Black Friday offer, how do you see the option of upgrading them to the V2? Will they move a lot? Will the chair move when you press the brake? . Great video and thanks for your help.
The chair will move but you can put the wheels in some old shoes or get some brake on load castors for it
11:31 is the question i had before buying these. I had the inverted v3 before sold it n waiting to get these. What can i do to make the throttle feel like v3? Love the high detailed video
Curious, I just recently bought a set of v1 clubsport pedals. Wasn't fully understanding what I was buying. Looks like I might be changing out to these. Do you know anything with a nice brake like this and a little bite on the clutch? Thanks!!!
yeah the next pedal set 'up' from this that I have reviewed and recommend is the Simforge pedal set. It's really good
@@LaurenceDusoswa oh nice. They aren’t even being sold yet but pricing isn’t horrible.
Im guessing all the CSL Elite pedals are the same height overall ? I have the entry level set and they just fit in my gooofy rig... cant find anything bu packaging dimensions ??
Fanatec have done sim racers a massive service, first the CSL DD & now these, mid range pricing with a level of performance not previously available at this price .
Yep I agree!
I just moved from a G29 Rig to fanatec dd pro with v2 pedals and boy do I hate the throttle pedal!! It's looooong, soft and very un-sensitive. Does anyone know how to adjust the throttle sensitivity on a ps5 platform?
I don't own a pc and I'm not about to buy a pc so I can adjust these pedals
I am thinking about this pedal, or you think its worth to wait for csp v4?
I could write a decent length comment about what I think of those, but I can also make it very simple and straight to the point.
"I want"
That’s the nicest thing you’ve ever said about a product 😂
Just purchased these via your affiliate link, thanks for the review that pushed me over the edge 😂
I bought these pedals for 200 euros black friday deall. Had T-lcm, but seen as still in the return window from Amazon, I am returning them and ordered the v2s today. Will go well with the La Prima ❤
WOOOOOOO!!! €200 is so so so so so cheap for these… incredible…
@LaurenceDusoswa indeed, outstanding value. I look forward to trying them out when they arrive. I'll probably get the la prima delivered next week sometime. So, hopefully, the pedals arrive soon
I did the same - although I had an annoying creak-squeak on the T-LCM brake pedal within 2 days of delivery which caused me to RMA for a refund before I found out about the black friday deal on these. Every cloud...
@@ErringtonAcoustics Did you get yours yet? I am still waiting on tracking info. Typical Fanatec
Nope. 5 day usual Fanatec delay but UPS have sat on them in Hamburg 2 days, then 2 more days at the export hub and now they're in the UK they're delayed due to "operational conditions." At every stage they've managed to miss a scheduled pickup. If they weren't the absolute best available at this price point...
What do you think of these vs the P1000s (dual pedal for 489). Im looking for immersion and i like that the p1000s can be upgraded to hydraulic and the haptic system added
The p1000 are better with the haptics.
@@LaurenceDusoswa thanks so much. Would your recommend adding haptic to the elite v2s?
These went on sale for €199.99 during Black Friday so anyone who got them then got a great deal
Yeah it was a crazy good deal :)
Nothing changed from the V1 except maybe the sensors in the throttle and clutch which really only adds a few bits more precision that no one can reasonably take advantage of anyway. Before you would buy the v1 pedals and buy the load cell kit separately at a later time, or get them together as a bundle. Now, as an original V1 owner, it is literally impossible for me to upgrade to the load cell kit like I had originally planned and which was why I originally bought these pedals in the first place. Now the only thing I can do to upgrade the awful brake on my pedals is to add an aftermarket elastomer cushion to replace the foam one.
The v2 brake design is completely different. That’s the most important part.
good review
Cheers
I'm stuck if I should buy these or save a little longer for a set of heusinkveld sprints
Sprints are better. If you can afford it, go for it. But sprints are not twice as good as these but they ARE twice the price
My loadcell brake died within about 10-20 hours use. That was over a week ago and I still haven't heard anything back from fanatec. :(
Ahhhh noooo :( that’s horrible
so is it worth upgrading from 4 year old v1 csl elites
Wanted to get the Simagic P2000 (no clutch) for $575 since I run a simagic alpha. But now I wonder if you should save $275 even running two different brands
It’s a big saving. The p2000 are definitely worth the money and are at least as good as these pedals in every way and a lot better in other ways but it’s a huge saving and you get a clutch too.
@@LaurenceDusoswa how do the Meca Evo Loadcell compare
To the P2000? The 2 pedals Loadcell evo can be bought for like $80
Less the then the P2000!?
Is the hydraulic of the P2000 the extra money ?
@@Kanuel650 VRS pedals are very good, supposedly better than he sprint
85 85 85 with standard spring, my favorite setup
Very nice. Super heavy
What kg force do you use for load cell brake?
No idea. Generally around 50-70.
@@LaurenceDusoswa I gained about 1.5 seconds by putting the breaking force at 90 percent
Would be then be considered a downgrade from my V3’s ?
I’d like to upgrade, but there’s been zero word about any podium pedals & sadly I fear it might be years, based on all the QR2 delays which has now become a meme.
if you have v3s and are happy, i wouldn't get these. i do think the brake is better but if you're upgrading from v3s, consider something like the simforge pedals maybe.
@@LaurenceDusoswa thanks for taking the time to reply & recommendation:) much appreciated.
Bonjour,ai suivi vos conseils,ai acheté ce pédalier.😊
Nice! Enjoy!!!
Are these pedals compatable with the logitech g29 wheel ?
on PC, yes. they are USB
i cant decide between these or the sim forge i have money for both but just cant decide between them
Simforge are superior
@@LaurenceDusoswa thank you for the advice keep up with the awesome content 🙌🏻
I bought these pedals and my loadcell failed after about 6 months and fanatec has not responded to my service requests for 2 weeks now. Fanatec customer service has been so bad in my experience I will not purchase anything from them again. I would advise everyone against buying these or any other product from fanatec. I will update this post with comments if anything changes.
Ah no sorry to hear that :(
After waiting 3 weeks and a half for a response from fanatec they have said they will be shipping me a replacement loadcell free of charge. While the wait for a response was far too long the resolution is fair and I can say that I’m satisfied with the end result.
Glad you got a good result in the end. Fanatec has been having major logistics issues while also releasing a new and very popular product (the CS DD bases). While their support is usually not great, I think you were particularly unlucky with your timing.
They are known to be overstretched.
A little dramatic for nothing. It’s holiday season. Are you still advising?
I jumped on these during the black Friday sale. Now i'm waiting to receive them and preparing to get jumped by my wife 😂
NICE! the black friday deal was amazing
biggest problem of this pedals is the elastomers, this are going to be dead, and brake will start "feeding brake input" without any force after 3-5 months of use
I have had pedal sets with elastomers for years and never experienced that issue. the only issue elastomers have is that they are only effective and accurate to 50% or so. after that they deform and wear hard. That's why cup systems are great.
These or second hand VNM pedals for $450?
The VNM pedals at 450 are a good deal
9:18 you're wrong - there are exactly 20 combinations, as the order at which we install the elastomers doesn't matter for the final force required to brake.
x,y,z are different values of hardness, we have 2 springs so twice the combinations
XXX
YYY
ZZZ
XXY
XXZ
YYX
YYZ
ZZX
ZZY
XYZ
if i waited for 1 more year too upgrade pedals i would have got these instead of v3's
Anyone on here selling fanatec setup go a ps5 just starting out
you're unlikely to find one in your area on here as it's a global audience. Try a local sim racing group or classifieds
Looks like MOZA guys are giving them tough time
could be! It's a good time to be a buyer
The TLC-M pedals are also pretty slick.
It takes 100 pounds of pressure to get these to 80%, not enjoying them very much, my basic Logitech are better
You know you can adjust them right?
No cliche phrases. Disliked. 😤
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