How to Update Your BIOS Without a CPU
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- čas přidán 4. 12. 2020
- No CPU? You can still update your BIOS with some motherboards! Here's how!
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For anyone stuck with a board that doesn't support the aforementioned BIOS flashback functionality, AMD still offers (at least, according to their site) a loaner CPU to those who qualify: www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/pa-100#faq-Short-Term-Processor-Loan-Boot-Kit
If you've used this service recently, let us know below!
such service is not available globally, kind of BS PR move from AMD
Going through the process now for my Tuf X570-Plus. Downside of saving money on my board by avoiding features I didn't care about. Think the closest one was $40 more to go with the X570-pro to get flashback, wifi I didn't need, and a worse looking IO cover.
Micro Center has been pretty good about it, the one near me in Tustin charges a slight fee if you don't have any other option.
Hey can you please help me I have a p300 build I’m working on and all my USB ports don’t work also my gpu isn’t working too so can you please help
When i built My Brothers New Ryzen 5 3600 he ordered a Different Bord (Asus Tuf B450) than i advised him to get ! His cpu Would not Work out of the box & no bios flashback on the Tuf bord & he just bought some Crappy AMD Athlon 200GE dual core chip so i could Update His Bios & Of Corse It worked Perfectly for that ..lol.
Starting to think Greg is working with google. Second time he’s uploaded a video that I’ve looked for within 2 weeks...
LOL
Had this exact same problem earlier this week. Had to pay a shop to update the bios for me...
@@steynie8 AMD has a loan bios update kit, no need to pay a shop.
@@JOb3rting not everyone is comfortable with updating it themselves specially because it's really easy to brick your board
@@sabyasachidas4680 plus not everyone is technically savvy I know loads who have never built a pc let alone flashed a bios.
Thanks for putting this out there, Greg. It has been 4 years since I built my last rig, and this was a great refresher! Please keep videos like this coming. So many tech tubers forget to go back to the basics, especially with how fast technology evolves!
It's nice to see you talking about this feature.
BIOS Flashback is truly underrated!
It has been almost 10 years since I last bought a motherboard and did not know they are so interesting these days! Thanks!
This video has definitely given me more clarity and confidence with building my first PC this december. Thanks for the great video!
How did the pc turn out?
yeah i wanna know too
Thank you, Greg. This is good stuff, sometimes reviewers get caught up in talking about $900 graphic cards and $400 cases and so forth, you're really doing a great job here with sticking to the simple-ish matter of BIOS updating.
Hi. I'm from the future. 4090 is $2000 now
This is exactly what I needed! I was afraid I had to return any of my new toys, but you saved me from making a n00b mistake. Thanks a lot!
Perfect timing! My friend just built a pc and needs to do a bios update.
Same happend to me...
Perfect timing! I just started my new build this weekend and need to do this.
Audiovisual step-by-step. Nice and easy, paying attention to the obvious that may not be that obvious for first timers. Well done.
I agree I was nervous about doing this.. this video was awesome and straight to the point.
Your video was really easy to follow. Thank you! I'm gonna be building my new pc soon with a similar motherboard and I couldn't find any simple tutorials on BIOS updates anywhere but here.
This was AMAZING. Thank you! Short yet thorough!
damn this is good timing, was wondering about this as i just got one of the new ryzen 5000 processors
Don't you just love it when you spent weeks and weeks trying to find the CPU you want. When you finally get it, you realize that your board was not compatible without updating the bios. Just bought an expensive x570 board, and a 5800x and now I need to update my bios because my "top of the line" motherboard doesn't support the CPU.
Same here , I do not know what to do. Without an older cpu
@@xquivo8431 Update: Turns out my Motherboard was updated, but whomever updated it failed to mention it to me or place a sticker on the box. I figured this out after buying a spare CPU to update it.
@@lenmuel7736 so i have to have a spare cpu to update my bios?
@@passiv1203 no right? The video explains to you that you don't need one or does it not work for you?
@@lenmuel7736 am I able to use my incompatible cpu yo update my bios?
I have been looking for this type of video for so long, it was so helpful, I appreciate you making this video
Very informative video, especially the part where you mention upgrade path and that it might be needed. Kudos!
Great info! I don't think I have seen this covered on any other channel before.
Thanks, Bryan!
Thank you for explaining this as this needs to be made more clear by AMD and board manufacturers. They should link to your Video Greg.
Super appreciative of how straightforward this video is. I feel like I legitimately understand why my new build isn't booting and how to fix the issue, which is not always how I feel when troubleshooting! thanks a ton.
How’d it go
Cuz I feel confident this is my issue too 😂
Thank you so much, Greg!!! After days of troubleshooting and a new psu later I have found the solution to my problem!
My b550-e and my ryzen 7 5800x were working on and booting to windows without any problems but anytime I launched a game between 0-30 seconds it would cause the pc to force restart to windows!
I was on bios version 1004 and updated it to 1401 and now my new system appears to be stable!!!
Thanks again for the guide my guy!!!
Thank you so much Greg, you really dont know how much this is meaning too me as a child i was growing up watching my father and my uncle playing videos games all the time at holidays then my uncle showed the pc world to me when i was still young like 9 to 10 years idk and i was never happier then that day you and LTT inspired me too build my pc and here i am watching your videos too fix the issue after the build my monitor showed no signal thinking why cant my monitor show any signal i fell happy again so i can use my free time again as i loved to do it escaping from reality and spend so much time again with my friends over the internet again thank u so much i fell again like i could doo something usefull again love from austria love ur content
Great video, never had to do this yet...Yet being operative word here, nice to these sort of videos that can be very helpful to your viewer's.
you are one of those you tubers who have knowledge and want every one to gain that knowledge by showing every detail and steps.. kudos man.. you are awesome
thanks a lot! concise and thorough enough to be set really quickly. Helped clear some confusion without having to read and browse a ton on the manufacturers site
Thank you for this step by step tutorial, you couldn't do better. I once updated BIOS without CPU directly from the BIOS interface. There was some sort of installation wizard that only requires an ethernet connection. I don't remember if it was an Asus or MSI board. It is really easy to update BIOS nowadays, board manufacturers got really better at making it easy. Just follow the guidelines and that will be okay.
Used this feature on my MSi motherboard last year. Worked a treat.
Just want to thank you for this easy to follow video. Couldn't get my new set-up to post and this fixed everything. Cheers!
Awesome video! Thank you for all the information about what to look for in boards from multiple vendors. Really helpful when trying to decide on what motherboard to buy. Also side note, I hope SCDkey continues as a sponsor. Used it. Love it!
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Quality content, and at exactly the right time! Now all we have to do is wait another 8 months to have the cpus in stock
I just got a 5800x lol
@@rickyberwick4403 is it goood
@@manmeh4r yes
@@rickyberwick4403 I have a 5700H
I just found and subscribed to you this morning and then you upload a video I was literally going to look up.
Perfect timing! Thanks for subscribing!
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i was starting to stress about what i did wrong, but your guide about the bios update was just what i needed, Thank you!!
absolutely godsend video, was searching and ran into this, very concise, thank you!
Just a few years ago you could easily swap out the bios chip on a lot of motherboards as they very often socketed. This made it possible to perform something called a hot swap flash if you had access to a working system. You pulled the bios chip from the board you wanted to update. Then you boot the working system on a drive with DOS, the flash utility and the bios image you want to upgrade the non working motherboard to. Use a puller to extract the BIOS chip from the working system WITHOUT TURNING IT OFF! Install the chip you want to flash and run the flash utility. Once that's done you can just power everything down and swap back the original BIOS chips to each system and now your previously non working MB will hopefully POST with the new BIOS.
Now I have done that probably more than 100 times and it works, except when you do something stupid such as try to pry the BIOS chip from the socket with the wrong kind of tools and end up damaging the socket, or you short circuit the socket on the live system, though I've never done that. The most common failure is damaging the connectors on the BIOS chip when extracting it, again something that usually only happen if you don't have the right tools.
I also have to admit that I've only done this with motherboards of the same model. The flash tools try to verify that the bios you are flashing to is correct for the motherboard, and I'm not certain how they perform that check. If it's by reading some ID from the BIOS chip then it could work across motherboard models, but as I'm pretty sure all modern motherboards caches the entire BIOS for performance reasons that's not a given. There used to be an option to enable or disable this in the BIOS setup, but it's been ages since I saw that option so I can only guess that it's now on by default.
Another option was to just have someone else program a bios chip and send you using snail mail.Where I worked we had those chips as hand and just threw one in the programmer whenever someone called us asking about it. They were so cheap that we didn't even charge for the service. A chip cost a few cents and the postage didn't amount to much either. The cost was easily worth it to keep the customers happy.
Unfortunately though chip sockets has pretty much gone the way of the dodo, cost cutting and space considerations make it more economic to surface mount two bios chips rather than a single one in a socket. Even so most motherboards only have one bios chip, so be careful when flashing...
Clear instructions, wonderful. However, do we need to remove the cpu, memory, gpu, storage etc before updating bios?
You just helped me big time! Thank you for the tutorial. Hope nothing but the best for you 👍
Thank you for the show and tell. Planning to build a computer and wanted to make sure I was going the right path before doing so.
WOW man, I really have to thank you a lot!!! This BIOS update video tutorial literally made possible that I could use my new build PC without having to pay extra money for someone to do the job...I feared some of the components could be malfunctioning (and they were all new) Someone even told me that maybe I had to buy another motherboard and I was starting to get worried. Your video really deserves all those Likes bro; and I even saved it for the future, just in case that I forget something, or to help someone who's building their PC for the first time, like myself in this case...Greetings from Puerto Rico pal!
Sé que es un poco tarde mi hermano, pero cómo pudiste resolverlo? Tengo un Asus rog strix b550-f gaming, igual al de él, entonces el mío no quiere arrancar, me deja la led naranja (Dram) encendida, ayúdame ahí rey!
For reference: CPU does need to be installed for bios flashback to work. (For some motherboards the usb won’t have power sent to it unless there is a cpu to complete the circuit)
Spent about 2 hours trying to troubleshoot why it wasn’t working for me (first time bios flash after switching to amd). The paper manual did not mention the cpu had to be installed but the online manual definitely did!
Did you had the cpu 8pin connector plugged in? the motherboard needs to have both 24 and 8pin connector to run the bios FB as far as I heard!
Thank you, I was looking for this, I will be building my pc in the next few days and I was wondering if the CPU needed to be installed already or not, or if something could happen if it was.
Asus tuf b550m mobo does not require a cpu in for whoever is looking
Thank you, this vid helped. I was so nervous doing this since this is my first time building a pc ever and i didn't have a compatible CPU yet
I'm waiting on my ROG STRIX X299-E GAMING and a 10-920k and been looking for a video like this one. Thanks and keep it up!
Thanks! Just finished my first build, added a 5600X to an X570. Your instructions were exactly what I needed! Awesome content!
did you have any problems with it since
Thank you! Very easy and simple to follow 😄
Build a new PC after around 5 years and paired a 13th gen i7 with a Z690. Was very confused why it wasn't working and showing the dram light but then after watching this, I realised what a fool I was 😅
Worked in a couple of minutes and now I'm able to get into the bios
How much time it will take to update the bios completely?
@@Rajatjha1 only took a few minutes for me
@@Rahullll i bought ryzen 9 5900x and B550 F GAMING motherboard so i just want to know that should i update the bios for this processor, if yes then how can i know that my motherboard required a bios update after placing the processor in am4 socket?
Hi there. Were you able to install the latest bios for your system, or did you have to start at an older update?
Hello Greg, you are the first youtuber I have seen, who has given thorough, detailed instructions on how to use BIOS flashback. Thanks!
Thank you bro, Just finished my build yesterday with that exact board B550e, I'll be updating the BIOS shortly
GREAT VIDEO FOR PEOPLE JUST BUILDING FOR THE FIRST TIME AND THEY THINK THEY HAVE DONE SOMETHING WRONG , BUT IT JUST NEEDS A BIOS UPDATE .
There are a couple of videos for the MSI procedure, but for MSI, you want the board without the CPU or memory installed.
Awesome video! I can definitely see this video being helpful once there is actually products in stock. I will be saving this for next year.
Awesome. Thanks, Alexis!
You described my problem exactly! Even if this for some reason doesn't work now, I'm still so thankful for this video bc atleast I now know way more than before. Tysm
I was looking exactly for a video like this yesterday
Ok, algorithm i see you 👀
I actually had this with my new 5800X and this exact motherboard. The weird thing was that I did get a post with older bios but it got stuck on the post screen and I couldn't do anything. But after updating the bios it works perfectly.
Same mobo and a 5800x and I managed to post and everything alongside installing games, games shortly after launch would cause the pc to restart and boot back into windows. This was bios 1004 I was on
Thanks so much for this. Super helpful for my first PC build.
Great video! Thanks for making it so simple.
This was really helpful Greg. Very clear instructions. Asus should be sponsoring/hosting this, it was infinitely more useful than their troubleshooting/support info.
Never knew you could do this
This is the most helpful video I have seen on this! Thank you!
Thank You for the great in depth explanation - keep up the great work Greg - Cheers (UK)
Needed this for the 5600X on the way!
Did you do it with the cpu on the motherboard?
@@TheAlphaWolfX13 yeahh
This video isn’t for me, I just stopped by to show support with a Thumbs up 👍 keep up the good work Greg.
I appreciate it!
Returning back to you video library. Watching you videos I was able to build my first PC. Ryzen 5 5600g with a Asus Prime B550M, but decided to go for full ATX build and now going to use a Asus B450 tuf gamming plus II. I don't think I will need to do a BIOS flash back but I will be ready if needed.
Saved my butt, thanks for the great walkthough!
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Appreciate this 100%. I got a Tuf B550 plus MB with a Ryzen 7 5800x that I will need to update before using. Big help!
SO HELPFUL!!! Thank you!
Exactly what I've been looking for.
Same man, I went around asking friends if I could borrow their 3000series chips to update my x570 so i can run my 5800x. I was in a lowkey state of panic
Hey can I do this with the 5900x already installed and ready? Or do I need to do this before installation?
Thanks Greg. You're awesome and a great help to the PCMR.
I have one of the older MSI B450 mothers.One of the first once to get the bios flash back buttons.I am glad to see more companies making the a standard feature rather than make people pay a premium for it.
hey Greg thanks for the video! Truly appreciate it. I am however concerned of one thing. Should I build the pc in its entirety and then do this bios flashback? So should I build my computer like normal, putting in the cpu, gpu, psu, mobo etc, and then when it is all finished, should I do the flashback before testing to see if it posts? Thanks!
Having just done this process two days ago, my 2c suggestion is to build up everything and try to boot. If it fails, do the flash then. It all depends on which firmware version is on the board as it left the factory. Older stock that sat on shelves for a while won't have a newer version obviously. It's also safe to flash the system with all components in already.
Cool, don't think I've ever made it this early for a video.
Thanks for the promptness!
Congrats
You're a literal god, thought I bricked my brand new PC when I messed something up in the bios that I didn't catch before it was too late! After hours of trouble shooting and being like it just worked 10 minutes ago, found this little gem on youtube and it worked like a charm! keep up the good work!
>.> where was this 3 months ago when I needed it? 😂
i'm new into this, can anyone tell me how do i specifically turn on only the motherboard and not the system? do I just unplug the power cables except for the motherboard one?
switch on the PSU switch
DON'T switch on the power button on your computer case.
I think this is how u do it but please double-check.
Incredibly helpful video. Thank you! Yes, please do more like this.
Exactly what I needed. Thank you so much.
Bad Luck Brian: Got a board with flashback, bios flashback button was broken off the board in shipping.
Rip
Just short the pads for the button with tweezers
So I’m getting ready to do this. Should I keep the CPU out of the motherboard and update? Or build the PC completely then update?
you can do either
If you do it as early as possible by attaching the two power cables from the power supply to the motherboard (you don't need a monitor or anything else), then that is also a good early test that your motherboard and power supply are alive.
THANK YOU, been trying to update my bios via flash for a while, a lot of other guys showed how it's done but never specifically said the pc needs to be off
Life saver man
Incredibly helpful, thank you!
if my Asus x570-e says it's AMD 5000-series ready. Do i then still need to update my BIOS like shown?
I wanna know too
Did you guys find out the answer?
@@FinesseMo7 nope, but I think it doesn't need
@@Unkown1.0 is your pc showing a display when you plug it all in, because I just built mine with a B550-F and I see no display? Maybe because I need to update BIOS?
@@FinesseMo7 haven't build mine yet. So i dont know.
When you apply the bios update, is the CPU in the motherboard?
no
I updated my BIOS with a 5900x in the socket and it worked fine.
u ONLY need the Power supply on(and battery), its best if NOTHING is on your motherboard only the battery & power supply, but you can still do it while everything is mounted on.
This with some guides I found on internet helped me so much!!!I cant describe how much I was stressing when I saw blank screen and gpu fans not spinning.I have B450 and Bios version was b52 I think, while for any processor from 5000 series my motherboard need to have b60 or higher version.The amount of digging I had to do just to find that one information on 1 site.Just upgraded to ryzen 5 5500 and I must say its amazing, every single game is running on max settings without lag.Thank you again king💪👑
WAIT, HELP ME BROTHER!
Where is the Bios USB Port on the B450?
Just what I was looking for!!! THX
Rewatched this 3 times just so I don’t screw up.
why don't u watch it while u doing the update
@@keisuke9194 i already did it and it was fine :0 thanks tho
Hello everybody, I just wanna make sure am I able to have my CPU on my motherboard when when I do this haha, thank you
I really wanna know this too
As far as I know, you need to have it installed before you boot for the first time, but I recomed to have it installed before just to be safe
@@saulsalasportugal1975 ok thank u
Perfect level of detail and great explanation 👌
Very helpful. I have an Asus x570-pro coming next week and kind of hand an idea but this explains it all.
But you still need another computer or a friend with a computer that you can make that usb stick.
"How to run a PC without a CPU"
imagine....
Very detailed and clear - many thanks
dude you literally saved me !!!!!!! thank you so much and keep it up with the great work !
Thanks sooo much for the video and info Greg!!!! I was just getting ready to update my Asus' bios and found your video! Which is Awesome since I'm already a subscriber! Made me feel stupid for worrying about it after seeing how easy it is though, lol. But, thnx for the help anyways!!
Excellent video. These are extremely helpful.
You amazing man! I have been wondering what to do as I want to build a new system with a zen 3 but I don’t have a zen 2 processor. Thank you! My skies were grey but now are clear. Love from Sweden
I kept getting the error "The selected file is not a proper BIOS" and spent a frustrating hour trying to figure out why. The last part of your video, where you talk about the in-between updates is the only place I found that solution, so thank you! I can't wait to go home and try this again lol
*Greg* This video is great. Thank you for producing it.
Thank you for this information. With the new Rysen 9 5000x CPUs, a lot of MoBos need BIOS updates to run them. this was just what I needed
That will be helpful in the future. Thanks !
This video was so fricking useful thank you so much 🔥🔥❤
thank you greg for the lovely video
i was asking this in the comment section and you made a video about it