The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power - Episodes 1 & 2 - Review
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- čas přidán 1. 09. 2022
- The first 2 episodes of the Lord of the Rings prequel series has aired, and as a Lord of the Rings fan, I do have some thoughts. Here are my thoughts on the first 2 episodes of THE RINGS OF POWER!
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Something I loved about Viggo Mortensens performance of Aragorn is that he always looked appropriately scared of the orcs, nazgul, etc. but he fought them anyways because needed to. You felt the energy he was giving, and how exhausted he was.
Thats the type of guy I wanna follow into battle
Loved the scene when he turns to the hoard of orcs and pulls sword and takes them on. With a swagger. So bad axx
I mean, the fact that these elven characters are powerful is not something I have an issue with. As massive lore nerd I know these people are incredibly powerful, so them being able to easily take care of things, without much worry is understandable, but also makes them harder too adapt. Which they have sorta failed at.
It's hilarious that her group of elves gave up on her
“Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the assessment that something else is more important than fear.” FDR
“I’m gonna start off with the nice” that’s when you know you have a product that is actually not so nice….
The immediate big glass of liquor kinda gave it away
Well it seems the general response has been pretty positive
@@Ryan79345 Cope
@@IV_97 it's true
I think the thumbnail with the bathrobe and scotch always gives it away.
the show is so bad that you haven't done a review on other episodes LOL
I loved the part when Galadriel told Megatron, if it bleeds we can kill it….
😂
🤣🤣🤣
Mixed it too much XD
Sounds badass
“If it fails then that makes you the dumbest studio ever”
Couldn’t have said it better
I feel like the money spent on this series could’ve been split evenly between several other *Smaller* Amazon shows and they’d be better for it.. like instead of spending 700 mill to a Billion.. give some of that money to The Boys or something - cos nothing is really impressive anymore by a CGI location and creatures when they could be done practically.. but that’s just my take.
I sure wouldn’t want to be an accountant for Amazon right now!
@@firstlast9846 I'm with you pal, The Boys is great, but if they had this kind of budget they could make it much more spectacular and they could do some more intense battle scenes etc. I still prefer a good story over some goofy action, also the new Gen V series might be a relief, if it's going to be an honest SUPE high school drama series it might be the first of its kind.
I really hope that if rings of power fails it won't hurt the other prime original shows.
But but da moneeeeey... look at all our licenses and songs and FX - coke-snorting producer
@@sdprazak The Accountant is fine. Pushing debits and credits, like usual -- it's probably even quite cathartic; they have nothing to worry about. It's the producers that are likely strung out by all of this.
Man, in hindsight, it seems that HBO premiering House of the Dragon a couple weeks earlier proved to be a very smart move.
House of dragon won in terms of the fans and ratings imo. This show is watchable but not on the same level of success as hod
HoTD so much better
HBO has been very smart about this whole thing. They are also premiering the first battle episode this Sunday, right after the premier of Rings of Power, and Episode 9 (which along with the final episode of the season will be insane if you know where the story goes) will be released after RoP’s final episode. Like I don’t understand why Amazon chose to premier 2 episodes at once and end the show before House of the Dragon ends, they are shooting them se les in the foot even more.
LotRRoP is not in the same league as HotD.
@@mt6897 have you seen the rop trailers, dialogue and costumes? Also what cast members are saying to fans? Not exactly marketing and production geniuses 😂 i wonder if amazon will renew rop after they air atleast 4 episodes and its still bad.
"Perhaps I've treated you too harshly..."
- Tolkien fanbase to The Hobbit Trilogy.
Naw, the Hobbit was trash lol
I mean, that's just what:
- Star Wars fans think about the Prequels after having gotten the Sequels
- Star Trek fans think about the old "Enterprise" show from the early 00's after having gotten STD and Picard (though Strange New World fcking rocks)
@@cy-one Way more people liked the Prequels than the Hobbit movies, its just that the people that didn't like them were very vocal about it, mostly nostalgia crazy fans of the Originals. The Hobbit movies are the worst features of the Lucas films and Sequels COMBINED. They don't need to exist, PERIOD.
@@nahor88 you should watch the 4 hour tolkien cut. That's basically the book as a movie. It's quite good.
@@TheNewSchoolGamer LOL No it wasn't. the Hobbit was overall fine and good fun.
The fact that we didn’t get an end of the season review must really mean this show crashed & burned
Honestly I’m hoping he just gave up and stopped watching here. I wish I had.
@@bencarlson4300 I can't understand how anyone could make it past episode 4 I passed out twice trying to finish it then never watched it again.
@@ocirontariocryptidinvestig8010 I watched it with a group and we were essentially just talking about how terrible it was and how different it was from the books. I would not have been able to stay awake if I watched it alone.
@@bencarlson4300 ok now that sounds kind of fun actully. I just don't understand how it was even possible for the show to end up being as bad as it was. looking back it makes sense that amazon tried early on to say anyone who did not like the show was a nazi. they had to have known in the lead up to its release it was trash and were trying to set a defensive narrative up. even if the show had a 100% white cast it would not fix a single issue it has though.
“Maybe the show will make us appreciate the Hobbit more.” Literally that’s what happened when Disney made the Star Wars sequels. Everyone liked the prequels after that. 😂
Although there were a lot of people who already loved the prequels, it's just that the sequels finally made their voices heard.
Though, I admit, that could still be the case with The Hobbit. I honestly really like them, even though they're much worse from an adaptation standpoint.
No they definitely did not lol
Oh cool I didn't know you listened to Jeremy jahns, he one my favorite critics
The problem with the Hobbit trilogy is that it's just so bloated. Get a legitimate copy of the trilogy and then download one of the many fan edits which remove all of the bloat
@@peterlewis2178 I honestly quite like The Hobbit trilogy, yes it's bloated, fill with bad CGI and some really annoying original characters, compare to the LOTR trilogy it's nowhere close in terms of quality. But when its follow the original material it's very good, it does respect the characters that its adapting and the acting from the casts are pretty great. Can't say the same thing about The Ring of Power.
The ice troll scene made me chuckle. You would think these group of elves are highly skilled fighters or as almost skilled as Galadriel. Seeing them being easily taken down by the ice troll was weird, if they can’t handle an ice troll what chance do they have if they had found Sauron and his orcs…
Not to mention that these elves were most likely survivors of the First Age. Meaning that they had to deal with Morgoth, Sauron, the Balrogs, the dragons, the werewolves, the vampires, the wolves, the trolls, the orcs and whatever other creatures Morgoth created. And yet now they can't even handle a single troll.
Húrin, a human, killed the troll guard of Gothmog before getting captured in the Nirnaeth Arnoediad. And these elves were outmatched by a troll.
Well they have a big health bar at least
But after fighting ONE ice-troll, they like “NOPE I QUIT”
Cheapest way to make your character look strong? Make everyone else look completely useless.
This crappy show doesn’t have any of Tolkien’s values… how is any of this remotely good??
@@unclephillymya They already wanted to go home, if you pay attention to the dialogue both before and after the scene, they are exhausted and Galadriel has been pushing them on, against the orders of the King, this was simply their breaking point. That being said, I do agree that their inability to do anything didn’t sit right.
This was legitimately the best review I’ve seen, hilarious.
the fact that he had to drink WHILE giving the review is a lot more telling about how he may feel about this series thus far…
Well that's one of his ratings classifications as you know. Need to be drunk to enjoy.
How is this show? Any good?
@@thelightwarriordiariesxsup6781 its hardly bad. If you really know LOTR lore, it will bug you. But if you don't ir are able to ignore it, it's fine, enjoyable, I'm down with continuing to see where it goes. But I do need things to pick up some
@@thelightwarriordiariesxsup6781 if you forget about the lore changing and wokeism it is still pretty boring and kind of hard to get trough an episode especially since they are overly long and only like 2 or 3 scenes are interesting
@@CascadianRanger I know nothing about the lore and yet I found it boring as fuck and terrible, I guess as TV show it’s bad In general. I knew nothing about Wheel of time as well but surprisingly found that enjoyable even though people hated it.
As an irishman, I find it typical that poor, lowest of the low farming types are all given terrible Americanised-Irish accents and all the more prestigious in society sound like they are from Oxford. Can almost guarantee that whenever the dwarves are introduced that they will all sound scottish. Just hire Irish actors if you want an Irish accent, makes it painful for me to try and watch through
Man I hate to even say it but I was actually offended over it haha. Such a regressive depiction of the Irish fuck that. Imagine the outrage if the harfoots were speaking in Americanised-Indian accents
Whenever the dwarves are introduced? You mean in episode 2 which already was out? Did you just not watch it, or did you just want to look like you made a prediction even though it's not a prediction because they literally already have been shown?
@@hrothgarnogar at that stage I had only watched episode 1. I have since watched episode 2. I wasn't trying to be meta or anything calm yourself
It's painful for all of us
So vogue and progressive that they discriminate against the Irish
Jeremy is one of the only reviewers I actually listen to he is always honest
And he is funny
People only say this when they agreed with what the reviewer said
Jeremy and Critical Drinker are the best reviewers on CZcams.
Only once has he been wrong and I think it was about how to train your dragon 😂
I trust his opinion implicitly.
@@chaserseven2886 na I listen to these other guys and love their content and reviews but disagree alot with some of their reviews
Eowyn showed fear. She wasn't the perfect fighter. She was feminine. Yet she still battled the Orcs despite her fear. That's what made her so admirable and gave her the amazing ''I am no man'' scene. It wouldn't have had any impact at all if she had instantly been a super duper perfect ninja with a constant scowl looking down her nose the whole time.
Misogany 101. Tut. Do better.
Exactly this. "Courage Merry... Courage for our friends". That's what drove them.
@@armondtanz close minded tool 101. Do better read.... in fact read - a Tolkien book.
This is when elves are the most powerful thing in middle earth. I like the fact that they are not eowyn.
Star Wars IV-VI = LOTR Trilogy
Star Wars I-III = The Hobbit Trilogy
Star Wars VII-IX = The Rings of Power
I have alot of respect for jeremy, he could've milke the shit out of ROP, making a review for each episode telling us how shitty it is, but he didnt because he just doesnt like it which says alot about his character.
After watching the whole first season, I can say you dodged a bullet Jeremy. It’s terrible. Especially from a Tolkien fan’s perspective…
From a Tolkien fans perspective its amazing, you clearly havent read the books
@@TheBlueArmageddon Lol wut? This show has absolutely nothing to do with any of the books beyond some character names and locations, which they tend just ignore the lore and backstory around and do whatever the hell they want with.
@@demondog45 then you haven't read the books
@@TheBlueArmageddon So which book does the cheap black sword Macguffin that turns out to be the literal ignition key for some silly Rube Goldberg device that starts Mount Doom come from?
Or the laughably hypocritical not-Hobbits who, despite their talk about how great they are at "staying true to each other." and how big their hearts are, will gladly leave one of their number to die the moment they, say, sustain a minor injury and become an inconvenience?
Where in the books does Galadriel go on a thousand year revenge quest hunting Sauron over her brother's death? Where does Sauron show a romantic interest in Galadriel at all?
If they aren't ignoring and twisting lore and backstory when it doesn't suit them, why does Galadriel seem so unconcerned about her husband being missing? Where is her daughter? Why does she look, act, and interact with almost everyone around her as though she's younger than them when she's the oldest character in the series behind Sauron and Adar by at least 100 years?
If you enjoy it, great, but the idea that this is at all loyal to Tolkien's works is absolutely laughable.
@@demondog45 man I just ignored him. He has to be trolling.
Anytime Jeremy starts a video not looking at the camera and preparing a drink, you know it’s going to be a rough one😞
Edit: Thanks for all the likes. You’re all wonderful people
😂 right!
Yeah, but didn't we know a lotr series was going to be a rough one, no matter what? There's no need to surprise here, we knew what this was.
It makes for an entertaining video, though.
My review of first 2 episodes
Great visuals
Good music
Hobbits were interesting
Main character is bland
Corny dialogues
7/10
@@Vishal-hf1mw You didn't like RRR because you have seen that type of movie countless time before example being deewar , karan arjun . You liked wheel of time because you might not have much exposure to fantasy . It's just the perspective of things around which you were brought up
They had a perfect opportunity to show what the elves are famous for their Martial Prowess. It catches them off guard a couple die then they systematically cut it down as a team but no, Galadriel is incredible and the rest of them are useless. Classic!
Based on the dialogues it seems like the other elves were born after the fall of the trees, which would make Galadriel quite a bit more powerful than they are.
Galadriel would’ve just used magic power on it wouldn’t she? I’m pretty sure she didn’t have a sword
but..why was Tauriel so awesome? is it the stunt coordinator or actress 🤔 missing the mark...🤦🏽♂️🤦♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏿♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦♀️
Elf wing politics
@@None38389 So? Elves are still supposed to be excellent warriors.
It started with the forging of the Great films, The threads were given by Tolkien, immortal, wisest and fairest of all beings. The rights were granted to Jackson, the Great mountain miner and craftsman of the mountain lore. And nine, nine hours were given to the race of men, who above all else desires quality. But they were all of them deceived, for another show was made. In the Land Amazon, in the fires of Mount Prime, The Dark lord Bezos forged in secret, a Master Flop. And in to this show he poured his money, his greed and his will to dominate every film, ONE SHOW TO RUIN THEM ALL ⚔️
accurate
Congratulations. In my quest to find out where this comment originated you are in fact the 4th person to post this. But my journey has only just begun. Let's see how far back this thread goes...
@@Elheru42 this feels like an adventure for Lemiwinks
This comment TOTALLY deserves more up votes
Wow that was awesome.
I liked the part where Galadriel jumped off her horse and yelled "it's Elfen time!" then threw her sword up into the air and proceeded to destroy the orc army with her fists before the sword hit the ground.
Viggo Mortensen, was excellent towards his performance as Aragorn in the lord of the rings films. It was a physical role for him. And his performance in Green Book was astounding.
Performance-wise Mortensen was good, but good lord Green Book was a sappy, obnoxious by-the-number Oscar-bait. Textbook definition of overdone and overblown.
His Cronenberg films are his best work
Yes Galadriel was younger during the forging of the Rings of Power in the 2nd age, BUT she was still one of the oldest elves alive at this point being born and raised under the light of the 2 trees. She was already supposed the be the wisest of the elves during this time.
She was at least as old as Gil Galad and much older than Elrond and probably a similiar age to Clelbrimbor.
Pretty sure she's definitely quite a bit older than Gil Galad since the 1st time they mention him he was called young whilst Galadriel is around from almost the beginning
@@GH-zg2wu yeah she's MUCH older than gil galad, hell I think even elrond is older than gil galad. The only elves in arda right now that could be similar to galadriel in age is orodreth(legolas' granddad) maybe since he lived in menegroth wayyy back, still I'm sure galadriel's older. And no celebrimbor is still thousands of years younger than galadriel.
@@GH-zg2wu celebrimbor is younger than Galadriel, and yet they've chosen an old guy to portray him. I just can't stand what they have done with him, the most important elf of the 2 age
@@sarwatarannya8786 There's Celeborn who might be the same age as her and Orodreth. Speaking of which is he even in the show? They were already married for thousands of years by the forging of the rings.
Thank you for not selling out!
I love the the part where Sauron said "Galadriel, I'm your father."
It really gives me chills every time.
Tolkien would be proud of this.
the Peter Jackson Trilogy not only was a near perfect masterpiece, but some of the best movies made in the past 50 years. I dont think ANYONE cam ever match what he did, he actually respected the series and the source material.
So then why did he majorly change the personality of Gandalf and Aragorn, and have the quest start 17 years before it did in the novels? Why did he have an elf army at helms deep?
I don't get why people are acting like PJ was insanely faithful, he took liberties too. How is it any different here?
@@MrFPSmoney because for pacing issues making frodo wait the 50 years to leave the shire woulnd make sens. it was not perfect but its still the best we will ever get. these movies and books mean so much to me and many others
@@MaryRose86 Sure. I love those movies. I just don't understand why them being good means this show cannot also be good.
Perhaps this show could be the LotR or the Game of Thrones for this generation, no? LotR was the epic of the 00's, GoT was the epic of the 10's. Who is to say RoP won't be that for the 20's?
@@MrFPSmoney so, did you actually watch it or just asking dumb questions?
@@Bodwaizer I have. And I’m asking why it can’t be a great show just because LotR was a great film trilogy
The cast promoting the show. The marketing. The fact they got rid of the Tolkien historian that was initially brought on just ruined this show for me.
Tolkien spinning in his grave
They freaking WHAT?!?
what tolkein historian? you got a source for that
@@chaserseven2886 Tom Shippey
and claiming that tolkiens work was white supremacist racist nonsense. I am serious. They insulted his work in that way
I generally agree. But the one thing that I was pleasantly surprised with was how the orc was treated in the second episode. They’re supposed to be a threat. The Hobbit kinda forgot that. But having our first experience with an orc in this show being shot like a horror movie was interesting at least
yeah it was dope.
I dont want to spoil but they kind of ruined that with the third episode.
... and they completely ruined it with that smash cut. If they refrained and just gave that scene its last five seconds, showing Bronwyn and her kid's reactions after chopping off the head, it would have been a perfect scene. Instead they chose to add extra punch to _showing the dumb old men set in their old ways what's what_
@@accardijunior ugh that’s disappointing to hear
No, nothing in this show was "interesting"
As far as I know, Peter Jackson was already past done when he started filming the Hobbit, I highly doubt he wanted ANYTHING to do with 'Rings of Power', otherwise the Dwarf women would have beards.
He was actually asked to come on to consult by Amazon, and when he followed up and said he might be willing if he could see a script, they completely ghosted him.
Even the Witcher on netflix put beards on the dwarven women. That detail surprised mefor the show honestly.
How did they miss that here?
@@icepicjoey I'm not sure. If I remember right, The Hobbit missed that little detail too, despite Aragorn saying the beards are why female dwarves are mistaken for men. Even with T.V. and movies now being overloaded with pushing Social Justice, they missed a good opportunity to have some kind of Trans representation there.
@@chrisjonesfilm Why does that not surprise me at all? lol Thanks for the info, I didn't know they asked him to come into production.
@@danbuckig4564 that... Is actually a very effective why to spread some of "the massage" whitout effects the story
When Sauron said “what is this, some kind of Better Call Sauron?” I got chills. Definitely a scene of all time. So good.
Morgoth chicanery rant
it is getting boring now
Ny favourite scene was when he had his Orc minions building Barad Dur and he threw a tantrum, casting it to the ground, and hissed, "What is this, a school for ants?!".
@@dizzlegrizzle1919 this one was clever at least
And then he proceeds to game of throne all over the screen
I think the best adaptation since Peter Jacksons LOTR is DUNE. That movie looked and felt exactly how I have imagined it. The movie might not be for everyone but as a fan, I loved it.
I LOVE Dune
I loved Dune but it should have been a TV show. I absolutely loved what I saw but there just wasn't enough of it. You simply can't fit the entirety of the story of Dune in 3 hours it needed at least a 20 hour season but this being said the film was outstanding I just want MORE.
@@TheKlawwGang888 I agree, but it is something special to go to the cinema and watch a movie like this. As a TV series they could gotten more story out of it. However, I'd take quality over quantity here. They spend a lot of cash on the movie which was a bit of a gamble for the studio and what we got was top notch and there was enough interest for it to get the sequel green lit. That is all I can as for I think.
They could've used more time for characters than the same flashback 10x. But I really like the movie as well.
Dune is a pretentious as fuck movie made for idiots who think they’re smart
Peter Jackson invested $280 mil into his trilogy making it a masterpiece in the movie industry, he had characters that we all fell in love the moment they showed up on the screen and we cared and felt for them throughout the whole trilogy, Howard Shore made an unforgettable soundtrack that even if you hear a few notes you know exactly where it's from including the scene. The Hobbit trilogy even tho was way expanded than one movie with people loving it or hating it still was great. The Dwarfs were amazing, Martin Freeman as Bilbo nailed the role. So, what Pete did great in this movies - perfect cast. Indeed Pete did some changes to the story in his movies but overall he respected the lore and Tolkien's legacy to the letter.
Amazon just buffed $1 billion investment into a series with $57 mil per episode and it fails successfully. Why?
Complete disrespect of Tolkien,
Breaking the lore of Tolkien's work completely,
Modern retarded agendas and ideologies inserted to please the only audience would love it - media shills and Twatter morons.
Worst cast ever to be seen on any screen. NONE of the characters are lovable, all of them are purely annoying making us wanting to see them dead and the bad guy to win.
Boring soundtrack that has nothing memorable in it.
Bad editing.
CG vomit inducing galore.
This so called “modern” movies and shows are just politically correct bullshit… This nonsense of being “inclusive” rather than respecting history and culture is just another form of assimilation and racism. Inserting characters of color into white stories and historical pieces are just another way of saying “you guys are the same as us and can be just like us, just as white as we are”. White stories should just be white, like Snow White should just be a cast of white actors, does nothing sound remotely wrong about calling a black person white? What has happened to us? Being inclusive doesn’t mean ignoring differences, it means respecting and accepting them. We are all different, with different genetics, backgrounds and upbringing. We are limited in the people we can become and that’s ok. If ppl are actually inclusive they would be making historical and cultural accurate movies and shows based on minority stories with a full on minority cast and not just remaking white stories with minority casts. There are so many interesting stories from all the different cultures around the world that would be amazing if made into films or shows, but they just HAVE to focus on the cliche ones and keep remaking them because that’s easier. When can we actually have culturally, historically and source material accurate entertainments…
I think this summarized the rings of power: Gilded turd.
Nailed it
Don't bash the cast they didn't write this.
@@whenallelsfails21 That cast that stated "Oh, I'm the first female dwarf ever on the screen" with zero knowledge of Willow (1988) or The Hobbit (2012), the cast that the only thing they can speak in any interview is about representation and inclusion yet nothing about the story, the characters or the lore.
Finished watching ROP... You were so right! What a waste of time..
Jeremy’s opinion is one of the very few I respect on this platform. I’ve heard all the pre chatter from people convinced this show was going to fail as an adaptation, but I was willing to let the show speak for itself.
But when Jeremy calls something ‘boring’, you can take that to the bank, ladies and gentlemen.
Or you can watch it for yourself and form your own opinion
@Bad Boys Boogie these people can't form opinions for themselves it seems lol.
@@MRGooodwineTV this video was more entetaining than the show
It has 6 on imdb already and IGN gave it an 8 when they always give woke stuff 9 or more
Critics were giving 10s before the releasing, obviously compensating.
Oh damn, Jeremy's face at the beginning. This is gonna be good.
The perversion of the Elves I think is their most flagrant offence, something obvious within the first 5 minutes of screen time. They are portrayed no different to humans, not immortal beings with a foot in both the seen and unseen. There is no mystique, no maturity, no cadence in the way they walk, talk or fight. Galadriel in particular was butchered, Kate Blanchet's performance was a good attempt at constructing the divine feminine. She was wise, mysterious, warm and fiercely intelligent. If they wanted their strong female lead so badly all they needed to do was take inspiration in her performance in the original Trilogy and even The Hobbit, in which the scene she confronts Sauron and the Witch Kings gave me goosebumps. Instead they do the exact opposite, by casting a 20-something woman with the posture and maturity you'd find in a teenager, eyes set retribution. She is seen as weak, immature and combative. The casting in this show is an aberration, even in contrast to the original Trilogy that was packed with solid actors, that fit the roles well. It hurts man, Hollywood is a fucking soup kitchen.
The Elves are too human and not that mysterious. Galadriel is suppose to be the enigmatic Elven witch/sorcerer. Instead Galadriel is a warrior princess that is boring. The actress that plays her is fine but the character is too rigid.
Well said. And your invoking the term divine feminine for Blanchett’s Galadriel is spot on. Perhaps you’ve already come to know about theories of personal integration and concepts of the anima and animus. But as a teenager, Galadriel was a huge influence for my idea of the perfect powerful woman. By making her more like a man, they’re just doing a disservice to true feminine power. You’re right, it’s a travesty, and it really saddens me.
....................WHAT SHOW WERE YOU WATCHING?!
@@rhineman .. what qualities of a man? Being a fighter? That's the quality of a PERSON. Arwen was a warrior, also powerful, beautiful, and magical. Eowyn was a warrior, powerful, and beautiful. Why couldn't/shouldn't a much younger Galadriel be a warrior?
@@dresdenwarlock7978 imo those characters firmly retained their femininity while so far Galadriel is much more masculine. That’s not me saying women can’t or shouldn’t fight, but they should retain some of that sense of being somewhat open and emotionally present which I just don’t get with Clark’s character.
As a generic fantasy: 6/10
As a Tolkien adaptation: 2/10
Overall enjoyment: 5/10
It's fine I guess. It's a soulless corporate cash grab borrowing some hat tricks from Marvel, with some visible signs of passion from the actors and artists, but zero visible effort from the writers. Many attempts at wise proverbs come across as an A.I. imitating Tolkien. But the greatest sin of them all, one that cannot be forgiven, was giving elves short hair. I struggle even to describe such atrocities.
It will satisfy your high fantasy cravings until something better comes out.
The long hair of the elves is an aesthetic invention of Peter Jackson. In no way does Tolkien describe his elves as having systematically long hair.
@@avalokitesvara4092 He doesn't explicitly state that they systematically have long hair, he just makes sure to carefully describe every individual elf character as having long hair.
@@Shcmaylor And it does not describe every elf as having long hair. As far as LOTR is concerned, this description is only given for Glorfindel it seems. Finally, it's almost irrelevant since you say that short hair on elves is bad per se, so that Tolkien would have been wrong to do it himself.
The things is... the hairstyles in rop look absolutely wank. They look so out of place and modern. It's a real turn off for a lot of people Regardless if they're short or not in the books.
Lotr trilogy did it better and gave everyone their individuality looks as well. Doesn't help with the overall casting. People look so out of place.
What a fucking mess.
To write an ultra-powerful badass well, they need to care, especially about the “little guy”. Levi in AoT, for example, is introduced (aside from people calling him a badass while he rides out) in a scene where he casually kills titans without his expression ever changing…then he immediately goes to a dying soldier, holds his hand, and gives him words of comfort in that his death has a purpose, all while emoting heavily (which is atypical of his character). This takes him from being some badass to a badass we care about (we care about him because he cares about everyone). It also means that, even if he seems invulnerable in battle, he can still be hurt. All this is done in a way of show, don’t tell, which is particularly important when dealing with emotion and motivation of a character.
This take is so perfect Im rey start using this so much inna future
It's 2 eps and she's still distraught over her brother which I assume she'll get over and become more caring later. That's how arcs work.
I don't think Levi would be loved as much as he is if we didn't have those scenes where he showed he cares about people. To piggyback off that scene, this is also where we learn he's a clean freak. Again, show don't tell. Levi kills the Titans and is covered in blood, he remarks how disgusting it is and starts cleaning his hands with a handkerchief. Then right after, he goes and talks to the soldier who's about to die, and holds his hand, covered in blood. Goes to show that he likes to be clean, but he's willing to disregard that if it means comforting someone he cares about, displaying how selfless he is. It's a really fucking good scene.
Well, it also helps that Levi is a secondary character.
@@vinicius100470 is he a secondary character?
Dang, you can tell Jeremy was actually upset 😔. The LOTR books and movies will always have a place in my heart from when I was young. It’s a shame The Rings of Power didn’t care to relate to its fanbase.
Unfortunately, it seems that fan bases don’t make franchises money. At least not nearly as much as just dumbing everything down to the lowest common denominator and pandering to everyone all the time. You’d think everyone would catch on, but that’s part of the problem. Inclusion is fantastic, and it can be done well while still respecting the source material and the fans. That would take time (time is money) and effort to achieve. Easier to release shit and call it gold since the vast majority of people will believe it.
I thought Hollywood got to Jeremy, I remember his reviews of the second new Star Wars movie, I can’t even remember the name of it, he loved it but I thought it was absolute garbage, that’s the last video I saw of Jeremy‘s, does he actually give honest reviews again?
You’re joking, right?
@@wadeausburn978 This is a great post..bang on.
@@wadeausburn978 With the immense backlash from what has been done to LOTR, and Marvel before that, and Star Wars before that, you'd think film/show runners would learn. Hopefully now that Tolkien fans has practically raised Hollywood to the ground that they'll actually start to listen. No one wants to be pandered to, no one wants to be preached at. We're hear to escape real life and be immersed in fantasy. LEAVE YOUR CULTURE WAR CRAP OUT OF MY ELF MOVIES! lol
"Eminem meth Sauron" killed me...killed me hard 🤣"You've done all the rings"
*"Thee wizard!"* - Man, your friend Adamn deserves props for hitting you with the most real response a fantasy nerd could have ever possibly dished in that scenario. Beautiful story.
A great slow burn, was the zombie/white sub-plot of the G.o.T. series if we ignore how the last season or two ended up. I can't figure out if the meteor man is Gandolf, or a lazy swerve Sauron (as he was in the visual of an eye when lying in the fiery crater), and Idk how much I care either way; I'm still astonished that Galadriel's plan was that she was going to swim a thousand miles back to the shores of Middle Earth. Yikes.
“Taking on a challenge while being afraid is the only time someone can ever truly be brave.” Ah, quoting Eddard Stark in this Rings of Power review is so beautifully ironic and appropriate.
Well the guy who plays Elrond was young Eddard Stark
The best part was before Gadriel jumped off the boat and said that’s one small step for elves, and one giant step for elf kind. And swam back home.
Oh that's so cringe (the line itself) x(
To jump off the ship and just swim into the ocean was so insane and is my biggest complaint with the show probably lmao plot armour really gifted her that ship salvage crew
@@paragon1782 the whole sequence was bad, and lasted forever
@@scambammer6102 u are so right. Like why make it last 3 min. We figured out the gist in about 10 seconds
Sadly this is not satire
I think you've nailed it! I too would have been on board for a grim-dark _Children of Hurin_ adaptation. That story contains so much awesomeness around a compelling, relatable, and flawed character (unlike, ahem, the Galadriel we've gotten so far). People think "Game of Thrones" was dark...
THIS.
Might be the darkest of Tolkien’s tales. Turin was a very complex and conflicted character . SO worth the read!
after watching the northman, i kinda want a director like robert eggers to direct a children of hurin adaptation
During my first read of CoH I had to keep closing the book and checking the cover to remind myself that I was in fact reading a piece of Tolkien. This one dives deeep into the dark machinations of the professor and gives the reader a profound appreciation for the depravity of Morgoth's intent. Dark is an understatement, really. It's bleak and cold.
Despite being sad af, it's an excellent saga.
Exactly the same thought, this character is so obviously Gandalf, that if he isn't, that'll be great.
“Taking on a challenge while being afraid is the only time someone can ever truly be brave”
Nice one Jeremy.
Plot twist the Jeremy Jahns youtube channel is actually a prequel to Dr Seuss and its going to turn out that Jeremy Jahns is actually a young Dr Seuss.
That's what Ned says to that stupid 3 eyed Raven kid of his
He took that line from the first Game of Thrones book lol
@@TheKibbles2005 Nobody asked though
@@TheKibbles2005 Isn't that a variation of the Roosevelt quote?
When Galadriel revealed herself to Darth Vader and said “I AM your father” I broke down in tears
A beautiful moment
Was that before or after she yelled "IT'S MORPHING TIME!!!"
I clapped. I clapped when I saw it
Then when he started darthing all over the floor in the next scene, man that broke me
Might I say it was definitely "brave "
Brabo Vince
LOTRO was the greatest mmo of all time. It was balanced well and totally succeeded in making you feel like it was middle earth
Evil cannot create anything new, it can only distort and destroy what was invented or created by the forces of good
no, the height of the episodes for me was when Galadrial decided to swim back, across AN OCEAN.
My girlfriend and I had a good laugh about that. We almost expected her to spend the entire rest of the season just swimming. Like we'd cut back to her every now and then to find that, yup, she's still going.
Wait. That really happened?
@@danielh377 Indeed it did.
@@danielh377 Galadriel manages to swim hundreds of kilometers across an entire ocean and then swims some more to escape a giant fish monster and barely shows signs of fatigue.
Meanwhile Elrond is exhausted after breaking a few rocks during a contest with Durin inside the Moria mines.
This show can be so silly at times.
Yes and the fact the elves took 2 things with them for an ocean crossing trip - pyjamas and daggars
They have no desire to tell "Tolkien's story", they want to tell their own. They've made this perfectly clear in a number of interviews.
Which I agree and just makes me think why they didn't just invent Thier own friggin ip!
@@thuderickthe3rd easy
If you have a franchise established already, its easier to have an audience to watch it than trying to sell some unknown product to a wider audience
Here though, they took advantage of that, and added their own crap to the story instead of respecting the lore
@@alcast3207 yeah I know al, but it's lazy, and shows that the "creative minds" behind said project have zero faith in Thier own creativity to carry a new ip
@@thuderickthe3rd i know
Thats the main issue, they rather re-sale the same story or just spin off the shit out of it, than making something original and compelling
@@alcast3207 Could have used D&D maybe.
DORIN is just how you’d think the dwarf prince/king should have been. I enjoyed the interaction between Elron and DORIN. DORIN made it a point to say that 20 years to an elf is nothing. Not the same in the eyes of the rest of the world and that’s why I think elves kept to themselves.
That was actually the only part of the show I liked. It almost felt like whoever wrote those scenes was a different person than whoever wrote everything else.
Too bad they picked the wrong elf to show this. Elron was a half elf till he was given his full elfhood. His dad was human. His brother chose to be human. He then had to watch his brother and all his family die over the years. And even raised a lot of his " nephews " not just Aragon. So yeah he understands mortal time lines.
That was my favorite scene. When he said, "you missed my wedding!" It made me lol he was just mad cuz he missed his friend. I loved his wife too
I wanna know why Elrond just ignored his friend for 20 years. They made a point of specifying the time for no reason? Great.
Honestly seeing a dwarf kingdom in its prime has been the highlight of the show thus far. The Harfoots are also an interesting culture and I'm curious who the man who fell from the sky is going to turn out to be... The rest of the plot lines, however, are bland at best and insufferable at worst.
Reminds me when AVGN had no plans to review Ghostbusters 2016 because even without seeing something, you just KNOW it's not gonna meet your standards. He was right too: The movie was nothing bad improv and movie references. Even with giving this show a chance, the writing was on the wall: This is NOT Lord of The Rings but a lackluster piggy back
The scene where Galadriel pulls out the Colt M1911A1 and *calmly* reminds Frodo "This is not Vietnam this is Middle-Earth there are rules" had me in a standing ovation, crying for a good 20 minutes, Bravo Vince!
The ice troll scene...
The idea that a group of skilled Elves couldn't handle and Ice Troll is ridiculous.
The part that Galadriel marysued it is believable to me, but not with a sword. They should have made her stand there being all pretty and cast a spell. That is how powerful she is in the book.
The sword throws her off, I wish she was in robes and no armor. Also it's weird that she hasn't married yet and had her daughter, it would have been nice to see her motives more motherly to protect her daughter from the woes she's seen.
Legolas took down an entire Oliphaunt with like 15 orcs on it by himself and that’s okay, but Galadriel and ice troll is too much?
@@devinpatel9060 you clearly are baiting an argument that isn't there. Scipio complaining that Galadriel would have cast a spell not use a sword
@@roycereeves5456 ok my fault on that but you can tell the arc is there. Tolkien himself writes about Galadriel as a warrior and the showrunners have expressed they want to put Galadriel on an arc: how does she go from warrior to lady like in the third age.
Elrond asks Galadriel to put up her sword and she responds “without it what am I to be?” Clearly setting up to answer that question.
@@devinpatel9060 How about that cave troll the Fellowship fought in FOTR? Legolas was there. How'd he do against it? And way to ignore the fact that he said a group of skilled elves couldn't handle the ice troll while Mary Sue did.
I am a big fan of literature sounding dialogs but something about how the dialog is written for this show bores me. There are so many words used to pad the main thought of what the character wanted to say. The exchange between Elrond and Galadriel in the first episode is the best example. I just went and load the dishwasher while that was happening.
The biggest issue with this show to me is why did they feel the need to have FOUR different story archs running at the same time from the beginning of the show? If you ask me, a lot of the shows issues can be traced to this one decision. Its like they're trying to stuff everything in at once because "well its Lord of the Rings! We have to have it!"
No. We don't need the hobbits finding "maybe, maybe not" Gandolf. We don't need the story about the village over seen by an elf garrison that conveniently comes under the treat of attack as soon as the garrison is lifted. We really don't need whatever it is they're doing with Galadriel. I mean why even bother sending her out to sea as if you're going to build some big tension decision? We KNOW she's not going. She'd be better off more directly involved with the central plot that I assume is the creation of the rings. As it stands we have too many stories going on at once. Its impossible to get truly invested in any of them. Yes, the LOTR movies and GoT both had several arching story lines but both actually built to that instead of doing it episode 1. LoTR had the fellowship where all the main characters were together, interacting with each other all the way up to the Fellowship breaking. Then, they went their own ways. Yes, GoT had Dany separated from the rest of the cast doing her own thing. However, aside from that, all the other characters were interacting with each other, establishing themselves before branching off into their own archs. Here in this show we have a bunch of strangers that now all need to be developed separately if we're going to care about them. With only what, 8-10 episodes to tell 4 different stories, its pacing is probably going to be all over the place. Its one of the reasons I can't get into The Expanse despite rave reviews for that show. Ditto for The Witcher. I'm tired of having to follow 3-5 different plot lines in one damn show because modern writers have a "quantity over quality" approach to story telling.
TL DR. The show is trying to do too much at once to its inevitable detriment.
k too much to read but four storylines is obv. They’re plagiarising game of thrones as well as lotr so ofc they must have multiple stories
When FOTR came out in 2001, I never heard of Tolkien at all but I’m a young Kiwi living overseas, missing her homeland and heard it was filmed in NZ. So a bunch of friends & I went to a late night session. From the moment Galadriel’s voice over started, I was literally transported into Middle Earth, like my soul flowed into this world and I was utterly absorbed. It was not until 3/4 in, when Gandalf decides to risk a little light in the Great Halls of Khazudum, that my heart literally skipped and took my breath! I almost wept at the sheer beauty of that scene, so much so I turned to gasp & share the moment with my friends… only to find EVERY SINGLE ONE (7 of us in total) ASLEEP 😴 it was then that I realised I was the sole person who had completely lost track of time and hung on every word & scene, right to the end. To this day, the most powerful & emotional cinematic experience I’ve ever had. Have read all Tolkien’s work multiple times sense.
So great is my love for this world that I cannot even bring myself to watch this new series. It simply cannot live up to the expectations I have and that’s just the way it is. Any retelling of this masterpiece that is even remotely mediocre.. I can’t. I won’t. In fact, I’ll rewatch FOTR to reminisce on how a masterpiece of literature and film swept me away with characters rich with depth and themes so meaningful like friendship and selflessness, it made me weep openly. This series is not that and never will be.
Same here. I had always seen nerdy kids in high school reading that book and always thought that it was just some sort of niche thing. But then I saw The Fellowship of the Ring and was immediately hooked and understood exactly what those nerdy kids saw in reading the book. My dad, who felt the same way about it as I did before seeing the movies, went out and bought the entire book series and read them cover to cover until he was done because of the first Peter Jackson film. And I have never seen my dad obsessed about something like this before or since. It just goes to show you the power of not only the Jackson films, but of the books as well. The only Power that this new TV show has is in the title of the show.
Yes. Only true fans can have this kind of realization. But you know the real haters from the other side would just tell you to "its fantasy! just shut up and enjoy the show!"
Here, here. Well said.
What a wonderful tribute to Tolkien! 🙏🏻💯
And Peter Jackson no less!
with that start it can't be good
@Bad Boys Boogie Not really
They Mary Sue'ed, Galadrial out of the gate. This means her character will have 0 character growth and no conflict we know she won't "one punch man" away. This is the character they want everyone to relate to the most per their advertising.
Thank you so very much for your spot on commentary, Jeremy! This ROP is such a tragedy and such a disgrace.
this video convinced me we would have been buddies if we worked at the same movie theater. Felt very much the same about the show, its just not captivating.
And for my Lord of the Rings story:There was this new coworker I had and his first week we started talking about Lord of the Rings, he mentioned he had the extended edition and he lent it to me....this was 13 years ago now, I have never given it back....the coworker had to marry me to ever see it again
I haven't even seen the show yet but this whole series just feels... arrogant,like the writers and directors wanted to show "THEIR" story instead of sticking with the lore that Tolkien created.
A sort of like a like our product or lump it attitude...
Jeremy's reaction just clarified that :/
Same with the Witcher.
book fans hated the jackson movies too. I don't like the new show, but it's an adaptation, an adaptation in your own spin, your own take.
@@tristangabales549 your own shitty take
It was done on purpose. That is especially evident in who they hired for the job, 2 total unknowns.
Then watch the original six movies. They aren't forcing you to watch "Their" story and they aren't gonna destroy the original films to make you accept the new things.
The older I get, the reviewers who have been here the longest seem to grow too. They do not pander, do not seek acceptance, they just give their opinion. Jahns, Stuckmann, FlickPick: the GOATS
I’d agree but Stuckman doesn’t really criticise movies anymore.. and I can see why and understand his reasoning - but at the same time I just don’t see the point in his “reviews” anymore if he’s just gonna gush about it.. like reviews are meant for things you like and dislike - but once you only list the positives - it may as well be titled “a praise of” instead.. it’s honestly not that deep but that’s the only thing that bothers me.
Stuckman definitely panders and has done so for a while now.
I want to give a shoutout to Grace Randolph, yeah you can see she shills for Disney but she has been honest I her latest reviews, she heavy criticized both she hulk, and LoTR for being meh shows and accurately pin pointed the flaws, and she has been doing the same for Marvel phase 4 problems. Refreshing to see honesty.
@@MrCharly780 I have always seen Grace in my recommended but have never watched many of her vids... I'll check her out thanks to you
@@mickeyc. she is no1 when it comes to rumors, industry box numbers, ratings and company movements, just be aware that she is heavily biased in her reviews towards Disney.
I'm most impressed that he stuck to giving up on this show and the review videos. Whatta guy!
My upmost respect. This show does not deserve haters tuning in and giving this garbage ANY TV ratings.
"It began with the forging of the great films. Threads were given by Tolkien, immortal, wisest and fairest of all beings. Rights were granted to Jackson, great miner and craftsman of the mountain of lore. And nine, nine hours were gifted to the race of men, who above all else, desire quality. But they were all of them deceived, for another show was made. In the land of Amazon, in the fires of Mount Prime, the Dark Lord Bezos forged in secret a master flop. And into this show he poured his money, his greed and his will to dominate all film. One show to ruin them all"
Love this 😂😂
Underrated comment!!
@@AndorRadnai because it’s a repost
@@brown22sugar25 That’ll do it
Like Spielberg and Lucas said in “Light & Magic” the visual effects should support the overall intriguing story. Not the other way around
….. Lucas said that?
@@pluntchgunster6156 yeah. Not saying he always followed through, but watch the series on D+. It’s amazing what him and his team accomplished
@@pluntchgunster6156 "special effects without a story is a pretty boring thing."
It feels like a fan-fiction that's inspired by Tolkien rather than an adaptation based on his works.
That's what It is ☹️
@@AnimeKing-xj2xl “I’m too racist to think of genuine media criticisms”
Okay.
Except for the "fan" part, it seems to me. More like "let's make a money making franchise out of a property everybody knows, now that the protector of said property is dead. Let's make it some young adult crap that everybody watches nowadays."
@@vysharra u must be a woman...am i right?😂
It doesn't "feel" that way. That's literally what it is. None of it actually is part of what Tolkien wrote. All it shares is character names.
How did they make fantasy so boring? :/
I'm so happy you mentioned Tyreal. That was be immediate first thought as soon as I saw the end of the first episode.
Love his dramatic pause about Hurin. It’s an incredibly sad tale, and agree would be epic to see on screen one day.
No you don't. No studio can ever live up to the standards Lotr fans have. It's an erased history, but the Percy Jackson films were hated upon first release for their alterations to the lore, and strangely enough, Legolas' hair color. It's simply not possible to please the most rabid fanbase I've ever known, who are also home to a startling amount of white supremacists and christofascists.
@@TheSuperRatt majority of the fandom love the movies, but I am not sure about christofacists, don't even know what that means
@@TheSuperRatt False. Yes, it had poor reception upon release, you know what else did? The fucking Empire Strikes Back. Just because initial responses are bad doesn't mean the studio can't live up to it. The changes jackson made to the franchise overall are so minimal compared to what this show HAS to do to exist since it can't legally adapt what its relying on.
@@TheSuperRatt the latest Dune disproves your notion. This Amazon show is not Tolkien what so ever
@@TheSuperRatt thats simply not true. As someone else has pointed out, Dune remained faithful to its lore in an evocative way. Maybe not the best ever done but it does prove that it is possible to give a fuck about what youre adapting
“I’ve seen this story. Just reunite him with his sword. Tyriel.” Had me dying😂😂😂
*Tyrael, but yes.
The story about your friend was great, something about it was just wholesome. It reminds me of me and my friends who connected way back in the day over watching and drawing Dragonball Z.
The thing about the ice troll scene is that im more annoyed that the ice troll smashed a bunch of elite elves. I mean aren’t they meant to be agile and skilful? They looked like a bunch of ordinary human footmen.
@Bad Boys Boogie that's the whole point of elite. This was more about women power then story telling and to me that's getting old.
@Bad Boys Boogie what ever man sorry but your comment doesn't discuss the lazy story. Or really make any sense.
@Bad Boys Boogie here's the difference in that scene Galadriel unleashed most of her power just to contain and scare away just a fraction of what Sauron truly is. And in the rings of power scene she is doing a bunch of choreographed flashy moves that seemingly kills the ice troll.
@Bad Boys Boogie also ya the elves can be taken by surprise but the show is essentially showing them as weak to make Galadriel's flashy entrance and finish possible.
@Bad Boys Boogie it seems very choreographed and pre planned and is not successfully creating the illusion of reality that movie or a show should
I'll always be baffled by reboots, sequels/prequels, and adaptations that completely set out to undo a lot of what made their predecessors so iconic. I admire creative choices that force viewers to re-evaluate their perception of pre-existing characters, lore, or events.
It's become more clearer which creative teams/writers genuinely respect their predecessors AND push the boundaries (e.g., Red Dead Redemption 2, House of the Dragon, Better Call Saul) and which are merely set on creating THEIR OWN version of established IPs (e.g., Star Wars Sequel Trilogy, a good chunk of any animation/manga live-action adaptation) -- while simultanesouly depending on their predecessors name to get audiences engaged.
It feels so arrogant, unoriginal, and disrespectful. I'm curious to see which category The Rings of Power falls into
Another example: Netflix He-Man show killed off He-Man and then centered around a strong 'womyn' and her black best friend (lesbian lover). Such disrespect!
@@skriabinfly I would believe you about Netflix killing He-Man if He-Man hadn't stopped being relevant or popular with younger audiences since Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles first hit TV screens.
He-Man has had multiple reboots aimed at trying to update the character and IP, but it's never worked at getting the IP back to the popularity it enjoyed in the early 80s. Same with GI Joe.
As much as those IPs desperately try to stay relevant with constant reboots in cartoons, comics, and movies, neither have managed to retain even an ounce of relevancy with modern kids (who all view it as something their grandparents used to watch as kids, thus making them outdated and irrelevant).
I know right. I never understand why all these writers are like “nah it’s better our way”
I’m fairly certain that we can already tell which way it’s going.
@@Madara8989 It's a tad funny how She-Ra might have actually gotten the better end of the stick this last decade or two from that fanshise. I say might as I grew up with the 2004 He-Man reboot and greatly liked. Villains the best. Better Evelyn then Revelations anyways.
Thumbnail told me all I needed to know.
Intro confirmed it.
Thank you for the review, Jeremy.
Love your honesty.
Also, you said everything I had in my mind regarding this show.
Def not watching it.
Oh, no.
I won't ever appreciate The Hobbit movies as anything but a shameless cashgrab that bastardized all of its characters and thinned its story.
The fact that we’ve only got one video review for Rings of Power but 5 for HOTD tells you all you need to know about how this show is fairing…
It tells me Jeremy doesn’t like it. Which is stated clearly. Plenty of great reviews of the newer episodes. 😊
Yup.
Too bad but I kind of expected this. I felt hooked by House of The Dragon from the start. The characters in that are interesting, I loved the council meetings, and the brotherly conflict between Daemon and Viserys is fascinating and well acted. I actually am fascinated by the characters in that show and it pleasantly surprised me. This idk just does not look great.
Yeah, just remember all this when House of The Dragon pulls a GoT Season 8 on you. That will be hilarious 😂
@@polishrocker93 I doubt they'll pull season 8 GOT. The material is complete, they knew how to end it especially in having GRRM as a co-writer in the show
House of the dragon is light years ahead of this s*** in story look and feel.
@@polishrocker93 Haha that would be hilarious but for now it is a show I am really enjoying. Cautiously optimistic now that we don't have D and D as showrunners anymore.
@@polishrocker93 There's not a single reason as of now to believe that will happen. There isn't some pattern of failure Game of Thrones has to stick to.
When JJ has a bottle out pouring himself a half glass, you know you’re in for a treat! Great video mister, keep it going 👍
My life revolved around chatting in the LotR Yahoo chat room back in the day. I still know a good chunk of the regulars now. Some of them even came over to NZ (where I live) for the Return of the King premiere. I love those guys, I can't imagine not ever knowing them. LotR impacted our lives more than pretty much anything else. Though saying that, I guess because I had that time I didn't really need more, I watched RoP in a casual kind of way without looking into too much and it was okay. But I get the grievances, if I gave into them I wouldn't get anything out of the show and I think I'd like to not miss out, if even for small moments to be back in a place I love so much.
Imagine somebody decided to make Star Wars that really was not true to the originals in anyway. The main character is so devoid that he looks nothing like the original character in the original movies.
Imagine they actually did that.
spectacular photography and a bit of a soporific plot, we look forward to the next episodes
I would love to see a "Fantasia"-like movie that tells the creation myth story in the Silmarillion through a animated musical display... That would be sweet.
thats what i thought of when i read about how the world was created through music. it took me back to fantasia. i wonder if there is something like this already out there?
I would love that. I really think it would be the only way to properly communicate the creation of Arda.
Nice
Sounds like a Rankin Bass project, to me.
interesting take
We'll never get a series as good as Jackson's films ever again. They were a time and place.
Did you watch the show?
@@MrFPSmoney yes it was awesome!!! can't wait to see more 🤟😎👍🏼
@@MrFPSmoney Yep, just. Doesn't come anywhere near to it's highs, and doesn't feel like Tolkien. But it's still a fun watch.
“I thought up an ending for my book. ‘And he attacks the malcontents, till the end of his days.'” - Jeff Bezos
Peter Jackson had the benefit of the trilogy and the Hobbit to go off of. The hubris it took for the creators of this fan fiction mess to pass it off as the work of Tolkien is a sad sign of the times. I watched both episodes hoping I would enjoy it but so far I'm not impressed.
As a show in and of itself it's horrendous. Plot holes throughout, terribly choreographed fights scenes, boring dialogue, plodding story, and moments that make jumping the shark seem like grounded story telling. Looking at you pyroclastic flow. The CGI and Sound departments spines must be ready to snap because they're the only things holding up this train wreak.
Now as an actual adaptation of Tolkien's second age ROP is an absolute abomination. Amazon could not get hold of the rights to the materials necessary to tell the story of the Second Age, and thus should have never attempted to tell this story in the first place. What we get is a bunch of made up nonsense and rabble that doesn't deserve to have either the Tolkien or Lord of the Rings Moniker's attached to it.
Watching fair reviews like this and then checking Twitter and a few reaction channels, and see a lot of people regurgitating this false narrative that the only complaints people have of Rings are from people who hate women and/or are racist... Amazon has spun quite the web to try and deflect any real criticism about this show that they spent 260 million on! Fucking hell...
I imagine Amazon has a 100 person social media department and boy are they active. Once you see it ...
I've recently been accused of this on a forum. I cited Galadriel as being butchered in her character and how she comes across as being more of a spoiled child in this than an already wise 6000+ year old leader. The response? "You only hate her because you're misogynist." Not in those exact words, but alluded to. It's absolutely ridiculous that the political spin the media have pulled is a blinder on people so much these days, that you can't be legitimately critical over important things in entertainment, such as bad writing and depictions of characters. You are not allowed to complain when unnecessary things are changed otherwise you get labelled as something you're not.
Speaking of slow burners, a show that does 'em brilliantly right is Better Call Saul. The payoff is always worth it. And it's not boring. You can have absolutely nothing happening & it's still super intriguing to watch.
Because of the most important aspect, the writing. The writing is phenomenal. The visuals mean nothing if the writing is so abysmal
It’s going to be hard for anything to reach the level of BCS. Masterclass in writing. The visuals are just a bonus with that show.
I don’t even think Better Call Saul is much of a “slow burn”.
As a current example, House of the Dragon is on right now and there’s interesting characters in the first few minutes.
It’s also a “slow burn” in regards to the main plot being a civil war, but they have plenty of action in between it seems.
Not true, better call saul was absolutely boring and so is house of dragons
Speaking of BCS one the writers of it is a writer on rings of power
It's exactly how i imagined it. You can literally FEEL the millions of dollars that went into it but the emotion lacks for me.
I thought the production just felt "off" for being a tv show, and especially compared to the movies.
It was missing that certain charm. It felt overly dramatic.
I just can't help but notice everyone was just waiting for this to air so they could bash it to pieces.
I don't know why studios boast about how much they spent. For me the most impressive thing is making a great quality movie with the least amount of budget. When I love a movie and I find out they *only* spent 90 million, my reaction is "Wow I'm really impressed".
@@TangoNevada nah they bashed it the moment it got announced
i think that the trouble with this was that the writers took it as yet another fantasy story, it wasnt given the care or understanding that it literally was the first story written in this genre. its like they wrote it like it was a spinoff. it lacked subtlety and the depth that comes with tolkien.
I think the parts with dwarves and elrond are the most compelling for sure, there's depth there and a sense of relating. The dude on the boat is clearly supposed to evoke the aragorn aesthetic and it just feels lazy. I like the harfoot stuff enough i guess, the stranger has me paying attention, but it's also like dang... a short person who's ready to go on an adventure and a fat short friend who reluctantly accompanies. Where may have i seen this... Galadriel's conflict between deciding to go home and staying is alright, but otherwise she's too set on and confident, like you said, can't relate. Hope they really expand on the relationship between durin and elrond and the complications of their friendship/diplomatic relatjonship
At least in the Hobbit, Bilbo was so perfectly cast, and Smaug was amazing and it always felt like middle earth. Just bloated.
The only moment where I had a genuine emotional reaction was the dinner scene between Durin, Disa and Elrond. Gotta agree with Jeremy that as of the first two episodes Elrond is the most compelling character.
Completely correct.
I had already given up and was skipping ahead 10 seconds at a time. I read the Silmarillion twice and loved it. This was nothing like it.
I agree! My dad insisted that I watch with him, and I am tempted to only watch parts with Elrond from now on.
I find it interesting that the most compelling character to hardcore book fans (and I mean read silmarillion and nature of middle earth, know elvish type of stuff) was Galadriel, the biggest change to the adaptation. No mere coincidence. Because they actually like the material and have a real understanding and love for these small details, particularly the elvish writing
If there is a breakout character elrond is who it should be. She had some sort of mental break and needs the healing help of her people. The timeline is all jacked up and I'm just a minor novice in Tolkien.
Couldn’t agree more! This is an insult to Tolkien and his fans.
Hahaha
These pieces are not made for nostalgic reasons. they are made to address todays emotions and tomorrow they will all be regrets, like cheap one-night stands.
I loved the part when Galadriel told Elrond "I'll never let go," then immediately let go for him to sink to a frozen death.
It's Galadin' time!
Girls get it done 😎
@@unclephillymya oh no...
Like at the end of Titanic!
When she said "Oh my god, it's Sauron he's the Ring of Power!" I clapped
I'm glad Jeremy did not sell out to the Amazon marketing campaign. He gave his honest opinion and review.
Or did he sell out to the hate train that was started waaay before anyone watched even a minute of the full episodes? 😲🤔
@@NotUnymous the hate train was all about black people being in it. Jeremy didn’t say that’s what sucks about it. Do keep up.
Jeremy is also one of the larger, and more “old timer” movie and show reviewers on YT so this video is guna get a lot of attention by many overlapping fanbases. Some Tolkien specific channels like Nerd of the Rings (who channel from their first video was about Amazon’s series) are obviously sellouts. Other are so puritan regarding Tolkien’s lore being a white European mythology that they don’t want diverse casting (I don’t think these people are racist, because they are correct about Tolkien’s intent to make a British mythology, but they are definitely unreasonable in some extent as it’s ok to bend some rules in fantasy sometimes to allow viewers find relatability), and then there are others in the middle where they just seem so desperate to cling onto the idea of visiting Middle Earth on screen again that they willfully blind themselves to the glaring issues with the show.
It’s tough to say which perspective is best as starting point, but putting aside all the politics that Amazon started by accusing fans of being racists, the show just isn’t well put together, and Jeremy is one of the only large reviewers pointing that out.
@@ArcanicFire what the fuck does viewers find relatability mean if its one of the highest selling franchises ever? Its already relatable....
@@ygkemosabi8280 Well what is your suggestion then to handle the portion of the fanbase that are race obsessed pc culture warriors? Tell them that they can't have the black elf because elves weren't black in the lore? I don't disagree its ridiculous as far as lore bending but I don't see why it needs to be at the center of the debate when Amazon is fucking up the story telling regardless of their casting choices.
Subscribed! You are fantastic I basically agree with your entire video you absolutely nail it. I love Tolkien and his stories definitely do deserve respect.
Love listening to your reviews while writing. Helps me hear a normal audiences gripe with modern cinema and what they hate versus what they love😆
Jeremy looks like he cares so much about the lore that before this video, after watching the 2 episodes, he sat down and had a good cry. Shed a few tears. Then he pored himself a stiff drink and had a very open chat with his audience. Just the energy I pick up from this. Dude seems kinda raw.
Because he is telling the bloody truth!
And if by "raw" you mean "honest", yeah.
@@lilymack4028 Think those two things go hand in hand.
@@ArcanicFire Why are we YELLING!?
remember that one scene where galadriel toses the one lightsaber to rule them all in the fires of hyrule, then got on her trusty steed roach and travelled to whiterun to then imprison all of the hobbits as its what her master voldermort would want for the good of westeros.
truely a master class of writing thanks to steven king and boris johnson
i really hope it gets a good review on trip advisor
In books she is insanely powerful, she isn’t a sword fighter just uses powers
I love the moment where Galadriel said to Achilles ""That's not a knife! This is a knife!"" Just goosebumps.
Definitely one of the most moments in television history
I don't get it? Is that supposed to be funny?
@@tordb only if you know cult movie history 🤣🤣🤣
How original that sounds🤦
@@tordb it's only funny where it originated
When Jeremy stood up on Mount Doom drinking champagne together with Frodo and pushed Bezos to fall into the lava with the ring, it was clear that Amazon faithfully followed Tolkien's vision.