RINGS OF POWER Episode 8 Breakdown | Ending Explained, Review And Lord Of The Rings Easter Eggs

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  • RINGS OF POWER Episode 8 Breakdown | Ending Explained, Review And Lord Of The Rings Easter Eggs. We review, recap and explain the new episodes of The Rings Of Power on Amazon Prime Video. This discusses Melkor / Morgoth, Adar, Sauron, The twists Gandalf, The Strangerl, Elrond, Elendil, Isildur, Numenor and our Season 2 Predictions.
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    Welcome to the Heavy Spoilers show I'm your host Paul and it's time to Balrog and roll as we are now at the finale for Rings Of Power Season 1.
    The Lord Of The Rings show answers a lot of questions in it's last episode and throughout this video we're gonna be breaking down what happens, what it means for the future and also giving our review on the series as a whole.
    Full spoilers from here on out so if you don't want anything ruined then I recommend that you head out now. Please hit the thumbs up button if you think the video is precious and make sure you subscribe for videos that you'll be galadriel you stuck around for.
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    With that out the way, huge thank you for clicking this, now let's get into Rings Of Power Episode 8.
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    Now last week saw the aftermath of the birth of Mount Doom which completely ravaged the land. Normally I'd say One does not simply change the text of the southlands into Mordor but after Adar took over the realm it became his. Miriel decided to return to Numenor in order to gather more forces and both Galadriel and Halbrand travelled out together.
    There was also Isildurs horse Beric which was let off the leash and similar to Arragorn in the two towers, this ends up tracking him down.
    There was also the harfoots who set out looking for the stranger in order to warn him he was being tracked by Feminem and the guy who played stan in the music video.
    Lastly was Durin who told Elrond and his son to Leave the digging and he accidentally awakened a balrog whilst refusing to help the elves.
    That should be you fully caught up and this entry picks up with the stranger. We get a strong focus on his eye similar to how last week started with Galadrield, here he is in Elyn Galen or The Greenwood.
    Once the shadow of Dol Guldur spread this became known as Mirkwood. He finds the apple that nori gave him last week but he drops this only for it to be picked up by what seems to be Nori. However,
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  • @heavyspoilers
    @heavyspoilers  Před rokem +40

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    • @philipgilbert3772
      @philipgilbert3772 Před rokem

      I got it right in the first few episodes :p it was fairly obvious

    • @shawnberry760
      @shawnberry760 Před rokem +4

      Am I the only person who still giggles every time I realize they give seven rings to the seven dwarves?

    • @Saurondür
      @Saurondür Před rokem +3

      I loved it. Really good and the stranger is definitely gandalf. Idc if it changes gandalfs origins I'm gonna love it

    • @jennyruth5620
      @jennyruth5620 Před rokem +2

      I loved it, beautifully shot! The series I give 4/5 stars. -- slow in bits, acting not top tier, but stunning world-building and lore 😍

    • @jennyruth5620
      @jennyruth5620 Před rokem

      lol .. Disney was first wasn't it?! Or does it originate with the brothers Grimm or the like?!

  • @TETASARAIVACS
    @TETASARAIVACS Před rokem +97

    When Galadriel confronted Halbrand’s royal lineage saying “That line was broken”, he could have answered her with “It’s been reforged!”
    😁

  • @jordansamuels2052
    @jordansamuels2052 Před rokem +1149

    I’m surprised they didn’t reveal Halbrand was Sauron is the same way they revealed the Southlands become Mordor!

    • @NathanLipetz
      @NathanLipetz Před rokem +141

      I would have laughed my ass off

    • @EzekielDBarrett
      @EzekielDBarrett Před rokem +104

      I laughed my ass off with the southlands>Mordor transition
      The corniest, most ham-fisted end to a show that takes itswlf seriously I've ever seen

    • @heresfrankbetches921
      @heresfrankbetches921 Před rokem +16

      That would be epic

    • @Cyrus-rodn45
      @Cyrus-rodn45 Před rokem +5

      ​@@EzekielDBarrett smh

    • @faramir3466
      @faramir3466 Před rokem +80

      @@EzekielDBarrett really? In my opinion the Southlands-Mordor transition was very dramatic.. Before that I thought Southlands will become Angmar and Halbrand will turn into the Witch-King and the revelation that it's actually Mordor was really shocking.

  • @samtheram210
    @samtheram210 Před rokem +342

    I think the major give away that the Stranger is Gandalf would be the way a moth appears on the face of Feminem.

    • @freddiecawston2892
      @freddiecawston2892 Před rokem +61

      He said "always follow your nose" so it's obvious

    • @Sassssky
      @Sassssky Před rokem +5

      Do you think he'll be called Gandalf or Olorion?

    • @Pookiebearhungry
      @Pookiebearhungry Před rokem +21

      But Gandalf came to middle earth in the third age.. not the second

    • @samtheram210
      @samtheram210 Před rokem +5

      @@Sassssky he went by many names so it’s possible he could go by a different name in the show but eventually they gotta call him by his iconic name, Gandalf.

    • @freddiecawston2892
      @freddiecawston2892 Před rokem +14

      @@Pookiebearhungry yeah but Amazon doesn't care about that

  • @nicholasgarrick8855
    @nicholasgarrick8855 Před rokem +40

    Nothing says lord of the rings like over long hobbit goodbyes.

  • @Ryan-du4kx
    @Ryan-du4kx Před rokem +370

    The stranger used the same line that gandalf used in the fellowship of the ring extended edition. "Whenever you don´t know where to go, you can always follow your nose."

    • @jonathancampbell5231
      @jonathancampbell5231 Před rokem +24

      I think that's in the regular film, not just in the extended version

    • @tjken33
      @tjken33 Před rokem +5

      Gave me a smile

    • @andresantos3487
      @andresantos3487 Před rokem +15

      Its from the normal edition, i wish they didnt drop that line and kept it a mistery for the next season..oh well, i wish he was actually one of the Blue Wizards..but maybe we will meet the Blue Wizards, since they are going to Rhun, and the Blue Wizards were sent to the East originaly.

    • @neesh2251
      @neesh2251 Před rokem +11

      @@andresantos3487 That line made sense in the Mines of Moria... it doesn't make sense when he's sitting in a grove outside. I felt like using that line there was a cheap nod and the writers were trying to provide some fan service, but it just was out of place.

    • @mikem9001
      @mikem9001 Před rokem +4

      @@andresantos3487 Plus Gandalf said that he didn't go to the east. But then, who knew that Galadriel caused the creation of the rings? 😂

  • @brightstar301
    @brightstar301 Před rokem +108

    I felt that except for Durin and Elrond, the heart was missing from the show that the films had. The whole story of Galadriel could have been so impactful but her relationship with her brother wasn't fleshed out enough to make me feel anything for her.

    • @insylianssyl1703
      @insylianssyl1703 Před rokem +8

      honestly i kinda felt that the lack of fleshing out the relationship was almost the point. we’re supposed to be the outsiders to her passion, kinda like everyone else is

    • @obxarms7685
      @obxarms7685 Před rokem

      I felt that this entire series sucked monkey pole beyond description....

    • @mizzlchieizzl
      @mizzlchieizzl Před rokem +2

      I felt that way until the end of Ep 8 ... Idk but I felt her guilt, shame at being gaslit but the balance of Hal knowing she wants power was very nice and satisfying. Most of the season though she was quite abrasive. I feel a lot of heart in the show. But they do feel better in a 2nd or 3rd watching.

    • @atroyz
      @atroyz Před rokem

      If you blink during the first episode prologue you wouldn’t have ever seen her brother. So the payoff just wasn’t there.

    • @mizzlchieizzl
      @mizzlchieizzl Před rokem

      @@atroyz Idk, yes they didn't develop it much, but it was memorable and I felt moved by it. Overall I felt the payoff was very good in ep 8.

  • @RobPsy
    @RobPsy Před rokem +140

    i find it kinda weird how fast giladril suspected halbrand for not who he is, even though she trusted him the whole show

    • @Dilmahkana
      @Dilmahkana Před rokem +59

      It was Celebrimbor's "from the flesh" line. No one else knows those words except Adar and her, seemingly.

    • @cofaloopolo2616
      @cofaloopolo2616 Před rokem +6

      @@Dilmahkana do you mean that line wasn't suppose to be spoken by any elf or human or anyone except for the evil themself right? so this is the sign that Galadriel found out that something wrong with him (Halbrand)

    • @laughingmask3118
      @laughingmask3118 Před rokem +12

      Oh she actually has always had a power to see into the hearts and minds of others. Says so in the books and we see it in the movies.
      That still doesn't explain why she didn't suspect him SOONER, like we all did when he was first introduced; none of us having such powers. XD

    • @Dilmahkana
      @Dilmahkana Před rokem +5

      @@cofaloopolo2616 that Arda said it, therefore Sauron implied it/ said it. Which implied no one else heard it. Halbrand maybe said it to Celebrimbor. Who else could have

    • @ZEFFENWULF
      @ZEFFENWULF Před rokem +2

      The audience knew he was Sauron since episode 4

  • @s_shaleh
    @s_shaleh Před rokem +275

    I like that Galadriel was like: "Okay, so I fucked up big time. I'll just deny everything and urge them to make 3 rings of power so I can keep one and crawl into hiding somewhere and sit it out until I get an invitation to go back to Valinor." Lol

    • @Howlsmelancholy9300
      @Howlsmelancholy9300 Před rokem +34

      Lmao wow XD i think she told them to continue making it because the rings are needed to save the elves but ya the fact she didnt admit what happened was a huge turned off

    • @danielbrito3675
      @danielbrito3675 Před rokem +20

      @@Howlsmelancholy9300 I can understand that tho. Just as Sauron said earlier: Thanks for bringing me here, I'll never forget, and I'll make sure the others never forget as well. If she'd tell them right away, they most definitely would NOT forge those rings.

    • @jackjohn4156
      @jackjohn4156 Před rokem +10

      @@danielbrito3675 Wow that logic is like the creators of this series… Like go away because this is a disease apparently

    • @mickMahaus32
      @mickMahaus32 Před rokem +24

      I think you missed the point. The ring are a necessary evil. They made a pact with the devil so they can survive. Galadriel doesnt want them to know because otherwise shes screwed and it shows gil galad that he was right by saying shes just gonna bring evil back

    • @mikem9001
      @mikem9001 Před rokem +22

      @@mickMahaus32 In other words, ROP makes Galadriel out to be evil and selfish. ROP "Galadriel" has nothing to do with Tolkien's Galadriel.

  • @rayray117
    @rayray117 Před rokem +15

    Halbrand looked like a perfume advert in the end lol

  • @photodude24
    @photodude24 Před rokem +31

    Your overall thoughts on Season 1 are spot on. I enjoyed some moments but others just really dragged.

  • @nicholasmaione5694
    @nicholasmaione5694 Před rokem +95

    I think it’s so interesting how manipulative Sauron is and how his words are poison and sorta persist, I guess is the word?? Like Adar used the same words Sauron told him which means Sauron maybe said the same phrase so many times it became branded in him. Similar to how Sauron tempted Galadriel with power but in Fellowship she would be tempted again by the “will of Sauron” in form of the ring and the same words were used to tempt her. Just like the ring tells all of its bearers how “precious” it is. It’s so interesting to see how Sauron’s personality eventually becomes part of the One Ring and how it has telepathic abilities just like Sauron did and how it uses the same words even thousands of years later.

    • @danielschoch4881
      @danielschoch4881 Před rokem +6

      Galadriel is responsible for Sauron to be back in ME. She brought him from numenor and encouraged him to be King of the Southlands. And she refused his love, HAHA. But incredible thing is how they are so alike. They have the same expressions on their faces and scream like psychos. Only Sauron could love this woman.

    • @pavshan7178
      @pavshan7178 Před rokem

      @@danielschoch4881 Why are you stupid white bois always salty?

    • @BlizzPort
      @BlizzPort Před rokem +5

      This guy never read the books. Just like every other ROP fan...

    • @loganray7890
      @loganray7890 Před rokem +3

      I honestly did not appreciate the callbacks to lines from LOTR, it seemed too cheesy and unnatural in the dialogue

    • @obxarms7685
      @obxarms7685 Před rokem

      Yeah,. I'm just hoping I can get a frontal lobotomy and some electric shock therapy to erase and remove any parts of my brain that might still contain the memory of watching this show for ten minutes...Fingers crossed!

  • @dotis1595
    @dotis1595 Před rokem +322

    I think the problem why they cant show galadriels brothers death is because they dont have the rights for their story cause its in the silmarillion

    • @jonathanz.9675
      @jonathanz.9675 Před rokem +8

      I think you're right

    • @donshingondonvergonio2247
      @donshingondonvergonio2247 Před rokem +6

      Thanks Sherlock

    • @hagarddunord8410
      @hagarddunord8410 Před rokem +20

      Nope ! Not even since they made up that stuff.
      Galadriel didnt have 1 but 3 brothers. And by the time of the last war with Morgoth they were all already dead ! One of them was killed by Sauron but it was long before the fall of Morgoth.

    • @bmacaulay18
      @bmacaulay18 Před rokem +20

      Who are we kidding? These guys have completely shit all over the lore and cannon since the start. No reason to logically work through something completely devoid of logic.

    • @mikem9001
      @mikem9001 Před rokem +8

      When has that bothered them? This series is best viewed as an independent fantasy, nothing to do with Tolkien

  • @lilgobbledygook9462
    @lilgobbledygook9462 Před rokem +256

    Yeah definitely Gandalf, I think he will come across the Blue Wizards, who would have arrived before and help him remember. Then meet Saruman, see their rivalry as well as his forging friendships with Elrond and Galadriel.
    I think Theo will work his way into being the Witch-king and Sauron's ally among the Southlands, helping him to kill Adar.

    • @torerikr.johnsen9242
      @torerikr.johnsen9242 Před rokem +13

      Seeing those relatinships unfold would be fantastic

    • @TheRodg43
      @TheRodg43 Před rokem +13

      @@nowwhytwo1636 yes but his last sentence was always trust your nose which is a gandalf line from fellowship so.. ya its gandalf

    • @jakebeaver2139
      @jakebeaver2139 Před rokem +12

      Theo isn't the witch king and I like the gandalf idea but doesn't gandalf come an age later in the 3rd age? They said the stranger is an istari which is one of the 5 wizards which he says he is. But the two blue wizards came in the second age so it may be them unless the show changes the lore of Tolkien

    • @torerikr.johnsen9242
      @torerikr.johnsen9242 Před rokem +18

      @@jakebeaver2139 There is no big REASON why Gandalf should come only in 3d age. Little to nothing is detailed about the 2nd age, and the source that says only 2 came in 2nd age is just a few lines. its not from any big story or anything. which is why we no nothing about the two blues. I dont think its either denied that Gandalf did NOT come in the 2nd age, but that he only made his role big and important into the 3d age. Like Saruman. So Gandalf could have come a lot earlier than we though and had a journy that is less knows. And even if its contrary to what Tolkien wrote, this is what he SHOULD have done and who knows, maybe he would have done this revision; that Gandalf came early and spent time as a journeyman, building relationsships and influenceing indirectly. Imagine the series looks at how he befriends Elrond, Galadriel and the others... and how he meets the other wizards and develop their relationships. It would be very interesting stories to develop and flesh out. And thats what this is about, flashing it out on the TV screen. Seems like lots of peeps on here does not understand that concept :P

    • @DeletedMediaYoutube
      @DeletedMediaYoutube Před rokem +12

      I think he's Saruman. He specifically translated his name to 'wise' before wizard. In the coming seasons, I bet he becomes a white wizard, maybe we'll even see him tell a young Gandalf, "when in doubt, always follow your nose."

  • @frozenbuckeye6700
    @frozenbuckeye6700 Před rokem +71

    If you watch the series just to watch, it becomes much better. If you are watching it to compare to all the other LOTR content then yes they copped out. But a lot of people watching might not know who Gandalf or Sauron were or there origin stories. So for them the reveal was amazing. My wife who has never seen LOTR loved the last episode. She said "that chick must be pissed he cheated her like that" and she had no idea he would turn into a bad guy.
    I feel if you watch the season in a vacuum you will enjoy it much more then trying to compare it to other LOTR content.

    • @laughingmask3118
      @laughingmask3118 Před rokem

      This doesn't sound like an endorsement to be perfectly honest 🤣🤣🤣

    • @gg-bs1ey
      @gg-bs1ey Před rokem +5

      honestly I just felt like it was a nice watch. Watching it alongside HOTD definitely showed that it was a bit lacking, but I just thought it was a good thing to put on while I ate my dinner at the end of the day. Some super nice visuals, a nice little story and some lotr fantasy. It's not anything amazing, but overall I enjoyed watching it. Hopefully amazon picks up on some of the criticism and beefs it up a bit, but I'll be watching season 2 regardless.

    • @ironcladnomad5639
      @ironcladnomad5639 Před rokem +2

      I disagree. Disregarding movies, books, and lore, this show still looks incredibly bland. The acting is pretty uneven across the cast, the writing has all the subtlety and elegance of a strip mine, the worldbuilding looks like hastily thought-out generic fantasy, and the story was maybe two or three episodes' worth stretched across eight.

    • @frozenbuckeye6700
      @frozenbuckeye6700 Před rokem +4

      @@ironcladnomad5639 I rewatched the series and if you leave out the last half of episode 8 I think it was great. Sauron fooling the elf lady is amazing. The guy she was looking for was right under her nose and she never questioned it. So deep was her hate that she couldn't see what was right in front of her.
      But I'll never win this argument. I liked the series. It was a nice base to the coming seasons. It wasn't an all time great like GOT season one or the expanse. But I think they took this season to lay the groundwork for future seasons. And that is why it suffered writing wise.

    • @frozenbuckeye6700
      @frozenbuckeye6700 Před rokem +3

      @@gg-bs1ey It is so hard to follow up what PJ did. They are also working with less of a guide. LOTR had the blueprint all they had to do was not stray to far. TRoP has less of a blueprint. But they also have to stay "within" a certain area. I hope the wizard isn't Gandalf. But I do like that Sauron tricked Galadriel. I feel it shows how cunning Sauron was. People watch LOTR and don't realize how truly powerful Sauron and Morgoth were. I mean we never even see Sauron fight. If this show can give viewers insight into how incredibly powerful Sauron truly was I think that alone will make it a success. I would also like to see them go more into the Music of the Ainur and the lore that comes with it. Hopefully they don't just copy paste LOTR with Gandalf and some hobbits going on a road trip.

  • @anska7475
    @anska7475 Před rokem +87

    While I do like slow stories, I still think they have pacing issues, especially for a series that is released an episode a week. I recently watched/ listened to the earlier episodes in a row while knitting and they felt more coherent when binged, than when watched with weeks between story-portions. The season also feels unbalanced to me because while the start was slow (which I didn't mind especially in the plot with the dwarves and elves) the last episodes felt very rushed. In general I'd probably be happier if they'd had really committed to one or two storylines instead of mixing them all together. The whole mithril-line was interesting enough in itself.
    As for Halbrand, I'd have liked him to be the witchking. Simply because a flawed character trying to be decent but ultimately failing and Galadriel suffering the loss of a real friend (instead of a fake one) would have been just way more tragic.

    • @yvc9
      @yvc9 Před rokem +5

      Super rough pacing.
      Very little anticipation created.

    • @waderedelinghuys6114
      @waderedelinghuys6114 Před rokem +7

      I thought the same! The reveals are way too sudden and quick it loses its value/impact

    • @yvc9
      @yvc9 Před rokem +9

      @@waderedelinghuys6114 it gives it a feeling of checking boxes off a list

    • @badshard09
      @badshard09 Před rokem +8

      Way too slow in some places. For instance the Harfoot goodbye scene felt like it was 20 minutes long. Enough already, we get it!

    • @justonlyjohn6596
      @justonlyjohn6596 Před rokem

      NERD ALERT: Witch-king was formerly the King of Angmar in the north of Eriador - far from the Southlands/Mordor, so NOPE. However, I too was kind of annoyed by the reveal, as I expected Sauron to pose as an elf, conveying far more arcane techniques than just _maybe blend metals... explody! - perhaps instead of pressure let those metals just coexist without forcing it?!?_ so helpful
      Also, unlike you I found the last episode WAY TOO DRAWN OUT... Nori leaving the nomads, OH MY GAWD just go; Galadriel confronting Sauron... a walk down memory lame???; making the rings SO SLOW......... also, no magical bits thrown at this budget? - no magic seen making some of the most powerful magical items?!?!?!
      Elven magic... apparently reserved for making garbage cookies not rings, so sad I could cry :..(

  • @thatkiwi8378
    @thatkiwi8378 Před rokem +107

    i hope Sauron will be one of the main Characters, Long have I waited to See the Dark Lord in Action!

  • @warlockofwordsreturnsrb4358

    Good to see him looking dark and kind of Sauronish by the end, setting forth for mount Doom.

    • @eltonlevin
      @eltonlevin Před rokem +20

      But he still had that 'I'm good and I will heal this land" kind of look in him as well which adds more layers to his character. Love that.

    • @lightislight9
      @lightislight9 Před rokem

      Nori is saur, khal him slave like 3 white chikas

    • @duongtran9995
      @duongtran9995 Před rokem +1

      He has his evil robe

    • @MeesterJ
      @MeesterJ Před rokem +2

      It's because he is a cutie

    • @tinamenon1593
      @tinamenon1593 Před rokem +1

      But he is giving off Liz Hurley of Bedazzled vibes......just need to get him into a red leather catsuit.....

  • @craigfrancisjohnson
    @craigfrancisjohnson Před rokem +36

    I'd like to know more about the backstory with morgoth and id like to understand more about how the power of the rings work

    • @elultimopujilense
      @elultimopujilense Před rokem +7

      read the books then

    • @craigfrancisjohnson
      @craigfrancisjohnson Před rokem +8

      @@elultimopujilense meh

    • @InoueMagi
      @InoueMagi Před rokem +1

      Sadly they don't have the rights to the actual book so you won't be able to watch it in this series. But yeah if you really want to know I would recommend reading the books cause it's way more detailed or you can actually listen to it here in CZcams.

    • @guyguy7928
      @guyguy7928 Před rokem

      @@craigfrancisjohnson that will be your best decision

  • @GuyFromDoom
    @GuyFromDoom Před rokem +1

    Galadriel's face in her little shouting match with Saurbrand looks like Captain Kirk... "Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnn!!!!!!!"

  • @kingkrow420
    @kingkrow420 Před rokem +4

    I think they did a good job of explaining why Durin doesn’t want to dig deeper. They talk about singing to the mountains and it sings back where to dig, where not to

  • @ryanregan9652
    @ryanregan9652 Před rokem +162

    Looking forward to seeing season 2 in 6 years

    • @yvick7770
      @yvick7770 Před rokem +19

      You shouldn’t look forward to that
      Just watch Hotd

    • @jackjohn4156
      @jackjohn4156 Před rokem +14

      @@yvick7770 He’s making fun out of the fact that this series will be forgotten lol

    • @cptrey
      @cptrey Před rokem +5

      I’m sure we’ll all rewatch Season 1 at least 3 times to make sure we’re ready!

    • @kimberlyoliver200
      @kimberlyoliver200 Před rokem

      Really we have to wait that long??? 😮

    • @Dylan-qy5tc
      @Dylan-qy5tc Před rokem +1

      @@kimberlyoliver200 Nah only two years

  • @Thatguyhasagenericname
    @Thatguyhasagenericname Před rokem +39

    I hope that the Stranger is one of the blue wizards but one that finds Gandalf when he arrives and catches Gandalf up on what's going on while departing his wisdom to Gandalf. That's why the lines are similar. I know it's unlikely, but that is my hope.

    • @Lyonsbane75
      @Lyonsbane75 Před rokem +3

      The Blue Wizards arrived on Earth together and eventually dwelled far away from Middle Earth (to the East I think although I'm not sure when). They also wore 'Blue'. Where as Gandalf stayed in Middle Earth, spent a lot of time with the Hobbits and wore 'Grey'. Although they threw in the Bait and Twist, there was no real way he was the bad guy or anything other than Gandalf the Grey.
      Although I understand why people generally have their own theories and hopes, all of the clues started to add up really quickly as the season progressed.

    • @MaXiMoS54
      @MaXiMoS54 Před rokem +7

      Gandalf has the best brand recognition, they're not going to use a "blue wizard" nobody knows. Thats how these people think im afraid

    • @recursivecoin359
      @recursivecoin359 Před rokem +2

      I too hope it's not actually Gandalf. It's just too straightforward otherwise.

    • @johanvandenbosch1664
      @johanvandenbosch1664 Před rokem +2

      He is Gandalf. Quotes from him used, when he banished those witches, one turned into a moth (Gandalf used to call the big birds), calling himself "wise one" aka Gandalf the wise

    • @TheCertifiedman
      @TheCertifiedman Před rokem +1

      @@recursivecoin359 why not Gandalf? He will be known as a blue wizard then Gandalf in the 3rd age. What’s wrong with that? It actually can be a story of how Gandalf became Gandalf

  • @raulortiz547
    @raulortiz547 Před rokem +108

    I loved how the theme with Galadriel is about water and with Gandalf it's fire. With Galadriel, her dark mode looks like shes underwater drowning as in the beginning of the season. Galadriel gets Nenya the ring of water and Gandalf later gets Narya the ring of fire.

    • @flamboyentpromotions3471
      @flamboyentpromotions3471 Před rokem +1

      When did Gandalf get the ring I thought they were only for the elves.

    • @raulortiz547
      @raulortiz547 Před rokem +5

      @@flamboyentpromotions3471 may not be but every clue points to it. Gandalf gets it later in the timeline in the Third age. He has it in LOTR but it never mentioned in the movies.

    • @WrangleMcDangle
      @WrangleMcDangle Před rokem

      lmao christ dude

    • @flamboyentpromotions3471
      @flamboyentpromotions3471 Před rokem +1

      @@raulortiz547 oh ok, an that line about following your nose is a line that Gandalf says in Lotr

    • @IndieAuthorX
      @IndieAuthorX Před rokem +6

      @@flamboyentpromotions3471 In book cannon lore, Gandalf gets it from Cirdan when he arrives in the Grey Havens, off the boat from Valinor, in the Third Age. He arrived to contest the influence of Sauron with the three, or five, Ishtari. Cirdan was known for foresight and he saw Gandalf was going to need Narya more than him.

  • @MarTin-ku4lx
    @MarTin-ku4lx Před rokem +73

    I’m just happy the finale didn’t include reveals based on PowerPoint texts! That alone is a major success for this show!

    • @myth3516
      @myth3516 Před rokem +1

      I loved the PowerPoint text when the word “Gandalf” popped up. Amazing. Wow.

  • @killjoycola
    @killjoycola Před rokem +78

    It wouldn't surprise me if they changed halbrand every season and we gotta guess who surion is

    • @jademermaidmusic
      @jademermaidmusic Před rokem +15

      Sauron is going to be a trans next season

    • @ss_avsmt
      @ss_avsmt Před rokem

      @@jademermaidmusic Shiiii

    • @litmeister
      @litmeister Před rokem +10

      He was a shapeshifter

    • @adan3956
      @adan3956 Před rokem +2

      Next season theyre gonna do it like the mordor reveal with the title card
      Just to be sure lmao

    • @Peterski
      @Peterski Před rokem

      Not like there was any guessing required here - it was obvious since episode 3...

  • @MegaMerlin2011
    @MegaMerlin2011 Před rokem +112

    The thing with the dwarf king is they have the foreknowledge of all previous dwarf kings. There's a brief moment he says that to Durin, and I think that's why he halted the digging because he knew something dangerous dwelled deep in that shaft. There was no other shaft that was being shut. There's also the possibility he knew the story of how mythril was formed. It was a fight between an elf and a balrog, but we were never told how that fight ended. To further point out you were saying how the rings for the dwarves had little effect on them besides making them greedy because they had a strong spirit. What if the rings negated that dwarven foresight/spirit and left behind only their greed similar to how the rings of the humans sapped them of their spirit and left behind hopelessness.

    • @Jim-Tuner
      @Jim-Tuner Před rokem +3

      According to the show's timeline, that fight between the elf and the balrog would have taken place no more than a few hundred years ago. Within the lifespans of these characters, its not that long ago.

    • @MTStingray
      @MTStingray Před rokem +2

      The 'foreknowledge' of all previous Dwarf kings is a tale tole by Durin's Folk. It's not real.

    • @BlizzPort
      @BlizzPort Před rokem +1

      That's not how mithril formed. The show made it up, just like 99% of the stuff. Tolkien would never write such a simplistically dumb "legend". And it's mithril, not mythril.
      I always knew the only people who can love this show are the ones who never actually read Tolkien.
      Fake fans of the fake show.

    • @loganray7890
      @loganray7890 Před rokem

      Then why wouldn't he just tell his kid "hey, don't do that, scary monster down there"? The whole balrog reveal was pointless, as the video pointed out. The whole "mithril provides the elves with light and life sustenance" was really hard to believe. Idk. I appreciate the attempt to dig deeper into dwarven culture, but it felt like a side quest that'd I'd just ignore if I could

    • @nicholashagy9493
      @nicholashagy9493 Před rokem

      They have foreknowledge of all previous dwarf kings? You can have foreknowledge of the past? Oh i bet you mean they have past life memories of all dwarf kings.

  • @wasabi.
    @wasabi. Před rokem +5

    During the video I got an add from Shane Company to buy one of their “expertly crafted” rings. Nice try Sauron. I’m not falling for it.

  • @CKWINN11
    @CKWINN11 Před rokem +5

    Like a lot of us were saying it was obvious that hallbrand was Sauron to the point it wasn’t even a twist, the same goes for ‘the stranger’ being Gandalf. I think it sums up this series in a nutshell, nothing quite hit the mark. Everything was long winded and the writing felt like they wanted to change parts of the lore but didn’t have enough good Ideas make it work as a complete, fulfilling story. It’s clear that the shows writers are no Tolkien. They should of made their own story completely or just stuck to Tolkiens ideas. Instead they did neither and for these reasons I sadly thought it was a bit of a let down.

    • @sdqsdq6274
      @sdqsdq6274 Před rokem

      hold your horses , its only season 1 , lol

  • @eylam90
    @eylam90 Před rokem +10

    Honestly, this reveal felt rushed, i'd rather have seen at least half of season 2 with Galadriel working closely with Halbrand and Celebrimbor, her suspicions rising slowly, the twist coming... mid season 2.
    But they couldn't help themselves.

    • @thomasneal9291
      @thomasneal9291 Před rokem +2

      it's five seasons. they have to get on with the dwarves in season 2, the men in season 3, and the forming of the avengers in season 4. season 5 is infinity wars of course. ;)

  • @jamiemcdonaldisjamie
    @jamiemcdonaldisjamie Před rokem +5

    came here for the breakdowns and leaks years ago - still here for the reviews :)
    you are great at them and i think this is a good review of the series. i feel some of these shows just don’t need the week after week release schedule…
    a slower pace is better in a binge

  • @stuarttaylor3642
    @stuarttaylor3642 Před rokem +14

    Your reviews are fairly balanced, even though I like the show more than you do (whereas I absolutely hated the long soppy Harfoots goodbye scene and had to skip some of it). The haters' reviews get more views (I haven't watched any of them, obviously), and wish I could have YT filter those suggestions out and never even see their pathetic thumbnails. HOTD is better, of course, but having the two shows at the same time is fine, I think. Like you, I guessed very early that Halbrand was Sauron and The Stranger was Gandalf, so their attempts at misdirection weren't effective, and perhaps storytelling is the weakest part of the series, whereas the visuals are superb.

    • @snowballandpals
      @snowballandpals Před rokem +1

      Some of the hate reviews can be fun to watch.

    • @rampagepotato4307
      @rampagepotato4307 Před rokem +1

      The show is just below average with a dumb shitty protag. No hate involved, it's pure facts.

  • @amolmehrotra1296
    @amolmehrotra1296 Před rokem +72

    The stranger is definitely Gandalf, this is the backstory to his love for the hobbits, who might be the most underrated and important race in middle earth. I like what they are doing with Gandalf in the show, who in the books did visit Middle earth before he was sent on his mission by Valor. Second season we might see the blue wizards appear.

    • @foxg5315
      @foxg5315 Před rokem +12

      Except Gandalf wasnt there til the 3rd age...sooooo NO, along with the other 4. Talk about even more shitting on any lore given.

    • @lightislight9
      @lightislight9 Před rokem

      No, its sauron

    • @Ryan-du4kx
      @Ryan-du4kx Před rokem +6

      The stranger used the same line that gandalf used in the fellowship of the ring extended edition. "Whenever you don´t know where to go, you can always follow your nose."

    • @lightislight9
      @lightislight9 Před rokem

      @@dve34 no, its sauron

    • @arquitensproduction8001
      @arquitensproduction8001 Před rokem

      @@lightislight9 how is he Sauron?

  • @Starlord3d3
    @Starlord3d3 Před rokem +35

    Galadriel hate towards Sauron made her completely blind to see the real Sauron!

    • @Peterski
      @Peterski Před rokem +9

      because the script required her to

    • @jackjohn4156
      @jackjohn4156 Před rokem +4

      @Bad Boys Boogie Not really. For example the death of the harfoot, Gandalf could have healed him but script told him not to… It’s just bad writing

    • @rivaldyrisnanda7851
      @rivaldyrisnanda7851 Před rokem +5

      @@jackjohn4156 gandalf is out of mana

    • @danielschoch4881
      @danielschoch4881 Před rokem +1

      And she helps him getting his kingdom and the trust of the Southlanders. She even brought him back to ME. Like the Germans voted Hitler, Galadriel and the Southlanders voted Sauron.

    • @jackjohn4156
      @jackjohn4156 Před rokem +1

      @Bad Boys Boogie So him knowing that he can heal a tree isn’t script written. I don’t know how you believe that but whatever you say…

  • @daviddebold412
    @daviddebold412 Před rokem +6

    I'm basically watching both series through breakdowns! Yours are the best in my opinion.

  • @Alkheezy
    @Alkheezy Před rokem +9

    After every episode I look forward to hearing your reactions, never disappoints.. I really enjoyed the Season and as long as it gets better people will be more forgiving on the slow build up and miscues. Also don't let the negative comments get to you, your breakdowns are top tier entertainment.. Keep doing your thing 👍

  • @cubablue602
    @cubablue602 Před rokem +4

    As said before, you didn't think Halbrand was Sauron because you give the showrunners far too much credit. If it hasn't dawned on you by now, these people are WAAAY out of their depth.

    • @sneezydeezymcdeluxe7015
      @sneezydeezymcdeluxe7015 Před rokem

      I don't know how people didn't see this. It's been insanely obvious for ages that Halbrand was Saron.

  • @DrKeps
    @DrKeps Před rokem +55

    Not a lot of surprises in the reveals in this episode, but I think it was a pretty good finale. But I won't hold my breath until the release of next season, even though I'll probably watch it, lol.

    • @fenris8477
      @fenris8477 Před rokem +8

      Terrible series tbh. No more for me

    • @DrKeps
      @DrKeps Před rokem +1

      @@fenris8477 each to their own. I'll give season 2 a chance, to see if it picks up the pace, and/or story lines gets better.

    • @cain7925
      @cain7925 Před rokem

      its horrible lmao

    • @jackjohn4156
      @jackjohn4156 Před rokem

      @Benjamin David Lurie “continuity” a thing already broken lol

    • @lordoakenshield1290
      @lordoakenshield1290 Před rokem

      Lmao, it was full of cringe scenes

  • @pyrowolfcb4086
    @pyrowolfcb4086 Před rokem +11

    I thought there was no way Halbrand was Sauron until I noticed how interested he was in the mithril and that he was talking with Celebrimbor.

    • @theramilakarki4010
      @theramilakarki4010 Před rokem +3

      When I see the option who will be Sauron, I voted for Helbrand but after seeing his interest in Mithril i became sure. ...

    • @reese7704
      @reese7704 Před rokem +3

      I suspected him once he asked adar if he remembered him. And adar explained that he killed sauron to galadriel that made me suspicious of him!

    • @pyrowolfcb4086
      @pyrowolfcb4086 Před rokem +1

      @@reese7704 Yeah. It all clicked when he had an interest in Celebrimbor. I was like "NOOO! THAT'S SAURON!"

    • @pyrowolfcb4086
      @pyrowolfcb4086 Před rokem +3

      @@theramilakarki4010 I had just thought Halbrand would be one of the nine possibly even the witchking.

    • @reese7704
      @reese7704 Před rokem

      @@pyrowolfcb4086 that's a good assumption as well but all in all I love the series the last episode especially!!! I'm excited to see how it all plays out.

  • @joelhenry5489
    @joelhenry5489 Před rokem +26

    On one hand, I did enjoy the show and don't understand the hate. On the other, as a writer myself, this show is the ultimate example that no matter how much money you throw at something, how great the visual effects, great writing is essential to great storytelling.

    • @knightr0685
      @knightr0685 Před rokem +1

      Fax.

    • @TheBlockbuster1982
      @TheBlockbuster1982 Před rokem +2

      If you don't understand the hate you are just a normie, if you were a fan you would understand, it's ok you enjoyed it nothing wrong with that.

    • @vizeath
      @vizeath Před rokem +1

      I know right, there was this so called "writer" making a video on CZcams about how he'd like to change the plots of this show,
      Well the video popped up in my recommendations, and I commented that I liked the original version,
      And somebody insulted me for liking the original version better than what a random youtuber created 😤😤😤
      Surely those many people behind the scenes are waayyy more talented than this single person on CZcams 😩😩

    • @thomasc9036
      @thomasc9036 Před rokem +2

      Wait a second. If you enjoyed the show, then the conclusion should be great writing is NOT essential to great storytelling. Did you go to the same School of Incoherency as the ROP writing staff?

    • @arunbhatta3350
      @arunbhatta3350 Před rokem +1

      This. This. The writing is horrible. The dual between halbrand and galadriel in this episode is abysmal. Like who wrote that man?

  • @RyanHaney55
    @RyanHaney55 Před rokem +56

    I enjoyed that episode. For an instant, I thought The Stranger might be Radagast, because he wanted to go to Greenwood. Then I thought they might give him a new blue robe when he wanted to go to Rhun. But, the "follow your nose" line seals it as Gandalf. He may be a few thousand years early, but at least it was a good fight against the cult women. When Halbrand said "think of it as a gift" I hollered "Annatar!"

    • @rk9340
      @rk9340 Před rokem +11

      They cannot use Annatar as name or figure or the blue wizards, because that's from the Silmarillion, not the appendices of LotR. Bit unfortunate, I'd have preferred a blue wizard story over a out-of-period Gandalf prequel, since that's some of those huge blank spots Tolkien himself left in the Lore.

    • @mindplay_ttv5154
      @mindplay_ttv5154 Před rokem

      Yes! “Follow your nose” speech was from two towers when they were stuck Moria😄

    • @mister_comeback
      @mister_comeback Před rokem +1

      @@rk9340 gandalf said "more has come but to discover the rest I need to go to Rhun ". he is definitely going to meet the blue wizards in season 2 to learn about the rest of his memories

    • @rk9340
      @rk9340 Před rokem +4

      @@mister_comeback I certainly hope so. The entire east and the story of the 2 blue wizards is so underdeveloped in the source material (and even contradictionary), I'd really like to see stories around them.

    • @colinfitzgerald007
      @colinfitzgerald007 Před rokem

      @@rk9340 TOTALLY agree with that !!

  • @frankbombaci4977
    @frankbombaci4977 Před rokem +6

    I 100% agree with your take
    On the first season
    Ultimately it could have been better but it wasn’t horrible. You make a great point about them glosser over the lore/larger characters and not expanding upon that to provide a larger emotional arch

  • @terryglover3215
    @terryglover3215 Před rokem +2

    'Follow your nose' made me cry.

  • @Khizar_kt
    @Khizar_kt Před rokem +2

    When hellbrand came to celebrimbor s workshop even before he said gift
    I think we all knew
    yep its confirmed he is sauron

  • @theo4real1
    @theo4real1 Před rokem +59

    The spoilers is better than watching the actual show

    • @w0mblemania
      @w0mblemania Před rokem +1

      Agreed.

    • @s_shaleh
      @s_shaleh Před rokem +2

      And I like that you tune in every week to watch the series despite hating it

    • @w0mblemania
      @w0mblemania Před rokem +1

      @@s_shaleh Don't dumb down the conversation.
      One can criticise a show without "hating it". This show is a solid 5/10. It's not bad. It's just not good.
      Hopefully they can improve things for season 2, but they'll probably need a new showrunner and new writers for that.

    • @jackjohn4156
      @jackjohn4156 Před rokem +2

      @@w0mblemania They won’t change them because of shills thinking this is good when it’s horribly written

    • @theo4real1
      @theo4real1 Před rokem

      I'm working at being nice about things I don't like. The show isn't for me. I do like his reviews of the show. If you like the show good on you.

  • @muzzy142
    @muzzy142 Před rokem +93

    I hope his not gandalf always wanted to see the blue wizards but the "always follow your nose" line has not gave me much hope

    • @Peterski
      @Peterski Před rokem +10

      their hinting at him being Gandalf is just as subtle as hinting at who Sauron is

    • @1DJSummit
      @1DJSummit Před rokem +8

      Yep definitely Gandalf also, talking of adventures. And taking a harfoots / hobbit away. First time as a disturbing the peace

    • @christopherchuauhang4829
      @christopherchuauhang4829 Před rokem +6

      I was seriously hoping to see the blues especially knowing they came in the 2nd age but knowing how much they’re fucking up the timeline I’m sure it’s Gandalf.

    • @plexx365
      @plexx365 Před rokem +20

      It is Gandalf. I don't understand how people can be confused about it after the comment about following the nose.

    • @mister_comeback
      @mister_comeback Před rokem +8

      gandalf said "more has come but to discover the rest I need to go to Rhun ". he is definitely going to meet the blue wizards in season 2 to learn about the rest of his memories

  • @swordmonkey6635
    @swordmonkey6635 Před rokem +10

    The fact that the writers gave Galadriel an opportunity to reject Sauron's offer to rule in Middle Earth shows how little they appreciate her true character arch of flipping the bird at Valinor and saying "I'll make a kingdom in Middle Earth and rule here." Her pride keeps her along this path until she finally is offered the power of the One Ring and rejects it, realizing her pride has kept her from grace and that her pursuit of power is corruption in a well intentioned form.

  • @jupamoers
    @jupamoers Před rokem +2

    2:49 seven, not six.
    3 to the elves, 7 to the dwarves, 9 to the men, 1 for himself. Makes 20 rings

  • @Djpiglatin187
    @Djpiglatin187 Před rokem +3

    Some of y’all can’t be pleased. Either you got everything right or it’s Mephisto all year. It’s a story everyone knows and everyone still gets pissed when it all happens. Lotr is slow af and it will get better. I doubt there’s anyone that this is their into to Tolkien. Be less jaded, the real world is awful enough.

    • @CKWINN11
      @CKWINN11 Před rokem

      People are allowed to not like the show and express their views on it either way. Paul tells us to do so at the end of every video. If you don’t like to read opinions that don’t match your own then don’t read through the comment section.

  • @DanielDiaz-dl4hj
    @DanielDiaz-dl4hj Před rokem +5

    I love how when they drop the mithril into the molt, it forms a spinning eye that looks like the eye of sauron. Nice imagery that kind of foreshadows what's to come.

  • @Lyonsbane75
    @Lyonsbane75 Před rokem +49

    I like the Haldbrand twist. At no point did I ever think 'The Stranger' with Nori and the Halfoots was the enemy though (as initially mentioned in an earlier video). I mean, he wore Grey the entire time for a start (***** the Grey) and used a lot of signature skills of a very specific Grey wizard.

    • @brandonreed09
      @brandonreed09 Před rokem +10

      Given that these are the same people that decided to spell out Mordor on screen, I'm not surprised everything else turned out to be so obvious. It was so obvious that people started dismiss as being too obvious most of the season.

    • @kalu9541
      @kalu9541 Před rokem +4

      Gandalf doesn't appear in Middle Earth until the third age

    • @isabelmariaguzmanmiranda706
      @isabelmariaguzmanmiranda706 Před rokem +6

      @@kalu9541 This is a fanfic, though an expesive one. Anyone who holds on to the lore is going to die crying in despair or screaming in agony. For your own sanity's sake, forget about the lore if you attempt to watch this series.

    • @loganray7890
      @loganray7890 Před rokem +3

      I like the idea of the halbrand twist as well, I just was really disappointed in how they handled it. Way too obvious, and way too rushed at the end in terms of "name the rings, discovered as sauron, tempt the main character, and now disappear" because... Yeah.

    • @shw7598
      @shw7598 Před rokem +1

      @Bzake i was thinking this, i mean why not him? he wasnt the villain back then. ppl are thinking gandalf bc thats what fans want i guess :D

  • @bradvickers2379
    @bradvickers2379 Před rokem +50

    The show had some really cool moments... it's a tough balancing act trying to keep the hardcore fans happy by sticking somewhat to the source material while simultaneously trying to keep those same fans guessing and not bored with what they know is coming inevitably. For those crying about Gandalf showing up because he wasn't around in the second age... - A Wizard arrives Precisely when he means to. 😅

    • @mikem9001
      @mikem9001 Před rokem +5

      "A Wizard arrives Precisely when he means to." Which was in the Third Age, over the sea, with Radagast and Saruman ,and he never went east. 😉

    • @bradvickers2379
      @bradvickers2379 Před rokem +9

      @@mikem9001 Thank you master of Lore, what would I ever do without you? ....I'm well aware of that, twas just a wee joke but if you feel the need to brag that you read tolkien then go off king...of the southlands.

    • @mikem9001
      @mikem9001 Před rokem +2

      @@bradvickers2379 Now, now, don't get shirty. I made a light hearted comment - no need to worry about it. 😂

    • @Dilmahkana
      @Dilmahkana Před rokem +3

      I don't think they changed things so those who knew the lore could have surprises. They didn't need to anyway, we all would've loved just seeing it on screen. I think they did it for convenience of writing a through-line and 'updating' the story telling to modern styles, and the original plot would've taken longer since Sauron bided his time more regarding the Rings.

  • @ryankwon8785
    @ryankwon8785 Před rokem +6

    Season 2 Theory (House of Dragon is way better than Rings of Power)
    Mordor Arc
    1. Sauron will confront Adar and tries to retake his control over the orcs.
    2. Adar rebels so Sauron decides to retake Mordor by force and goes to summon the other orc legions.
    3. War for Mordor: White Cloaked Orcs under Adar vs Dark Armored Orcs under Sauron
    Eregion Arc
    1. Sauron will return to Celebrimbor as Halbrand (Annatar) to convince him to make rings for the 7 Dwarf Lords and Nine Kings of Men.
    2. Celebrimbor befriends the former Durin IV whose real name is Narvi.
    3. Celebrimbor and Halbrand (Annatar) give the new Durin IV one of the seven dwarf rings.
    4. Celebrimbor doesn't know Halbrand (Annatar) is Sauron.
    Rhun Arc
    1. The Istar and Nori will head to Rhun and learn Morgoth's influence on Rhun's inhabitants.
    2. The Istar finds a Blue Wizard already operating in Rhun.
    3. The Blue Wizards learn about Rhun and its loyalty to Morgoth.
    4. Blue Wizards vs Rhun's Mystics.
    5. Excited to see King Khamul of the Easterlings
    Southlanders Arc
    1. Isildur and the Southlanders will build the foundations of Gondor at Pelagir.
    2. Numenor and the Elves prepare for war against Sauron.
    War for Eregion
    There is an event when the Elves of Lindon & Eregion as well as the Dwarves of Khazad-Dum work together to fight Sauron in Eregion. Sauron defeated the alliance and captured Celebrimbor who refused to tell Sauron about the whereabouts of the Three Elven Rings. Sauron later executed Celebrimbor and advanced his orc legions to Lindon. However, Sauron was later defeated and pushed back because of the arriving Numenoreans.

    • @rjayamsedel3225
      @rjayamsedel3225 Před rokem

      Inclusion of hotd as way better than rop is quite unnecessary and nonsensical

    • @jackjohn4156
      @jackjohn4156 Před rokem +2

      @@rjayamsedel3225 … It is though in every way only shills like this series honestly

    • @hanshotlast
      @hanshotlast Před rokem

      @@rjayamsedel3225 it is as long as ANYONE says anything positive about this shit

  • @Pilotjimjones
    @Pilotjimjones Před rokem +22

    If Galadriel tells them that was Sauron, she risks them deciding to not forge the rings. If the rings aren’t forged, then the elves would have to leave middle earth and Sauron wins. She knows they have to continue with the rings in order to continue the fight against him.
    Overall, I enjoyed the series more than most apparently, for all of the positives that you listed, plus as you said, I am certainly someone that enjoyed the pacing overall (and I’ve also felt that House of the Dragon is not as good as it should be because it jumps forward in time just to hit a major plot point every episode).

    • @yggybeats
      @yggybeats Před rokem +2

      It's a good show, revealed over time. Watching it from the beginning, each episode at a time was slow. Almost nothing happened the first 3 episodes. But looking back now that it's over, it was good world building. It's why we shouldn't judge things until they're finished.
      I haven't seen House of dragon. I don't know why people are excited for a show that the same writers ruined the last one everyone was excited for.

    • @Pilotjimjones
      @Pilotjimjones Před rokem +2

      @@yggybeats I agree, and people are so fixed to opinions these days that once they have “judged” something they will likely fight to see things that support their opinions as opposed to being open to change, even as they receive new information (or in this show’s case, new episodes).
      As for House of the Dragon, I actually really enjoy the show (the acting has been great, for example), but I am just saying that I would be enjoying it more if we really got to know these characters/actors portraying them as opposed to changing out/adding new characters/actors each week. If they took their time, as Rings of Power does, it would be even better in my opinion.

    • @marcus3509
      @marcus3509 Před rokem +4

      Okay that makes sense I can calm down abit now but I was honestly Fukn Bamboozled as to why she didn't just tell them the DARK LORD just walked out the gate

    • @HTB6493
      @HTB6493 Před rokem +2

      I liked it too 😁

    • @joaopedrorosa6198
      @joaopedrorosa6198 Před rokem

      . The elves were facing extinction. Sauron arrives, shows them how to build rings (only the 3 he can't control), saving all the elven race. His greatest enemies. Sauron is the hero of the story.

  • @caindarin9665
    @caindarin9665 Před rokem +1

    Just Middle Earth's bad luck that Giladriel happened to bump into Sauron while swimming in the middle of the ocean and then pushed him into going to Middle Earth again and then brought him to the elven forge. I guess Tolkien had it all wrong when he wrote that she never trusted Sauron in his "fair form" in Eregion. Tolkien should have done his homework.

  • @ShinigamiAnger
    @ShinigamiAnger Před rokem +2

    What I don't get is: in LOTR one of the first things we are told is that the rings were gifted, 3 to the Elves etc...
    But in Ring of Power, elves make their own rings. Sure, Sauron was crucial into letting them understand how to forge them, but... what's the point?
    They made their own rings, not corrupted by Sauron or anything, what use can Sauron make out of them and why?

  • @hammertimee777
    @hammertimee777 Před rokem +49

    The elves have fallen into the trap of Sauron! Sauron was extremely clever by having the elves make the rings of power instead of giving the rings to them directly. This way, they couldn't resist them. This was very clever.

    • @joaopedromarquesini1792
      @joaopedromarquesini1792 Před rokem +29

      No, you dummy... See, both Sauron AND the elves were supposed to make all the rings that would later go to the men and dwarves (and keep in mind each ring took YEARS to make). Then Sauron went ahead and made the one in Mount Doom. In response, Celebrimbor forged the 3 elven rings in secret. See, I get that y'all want this series to look clever, but it really isn't. At all

    • @hammertimee777
      @hammertimee777 Před rokem +31

      @@joaopedromarquesini1792 Bro. I’ve read the books 4 times. If I want accuracy, I would read the books again. Book readers enjoy this show because of the twists and differences from the books.

    • @HCProds1
      @HCProds1 Před rokem +2

      He never gave the rings to them in any of the canon. They always make it themselves lol

    • @cubablue602
      @cubablue602 Před rokem +1

      @@hammertimee777 lmaoooo

    • @CKWINN11
      @CKWINN11 Před rokem +6

      Twists in this show? What twists 🤣

  • @YegJacque
    @YegJacque Před rokem +66

    I didn't think I would like the show after the first 2 episodes but as someone who has not read the books and knows "the lore" I did enjoy seeing pieces that would become part of the original movies. I mean not everything can match a book perfectly.
    As for the rings, I would have been ok with the.not being crafted, just seemed clunky to me as it seemed from the movie they were all crafted at once.
    Overall I found some episodes to be wonderful with pacing and others so slow and hard to follow. I look forward to see how season 2 builds upon this season and how they will improve in other areas

    • @danielbrito3675
      @danielbrito3675 Před rokem +6

      the rings were not crafted all at once, but the elves' were crafted after the others, when they realized Sauron made the others + the one ring.

    • @ilamh5078
      @ilamh5078 Před rokem

      why do you think this series is related to the original trilogy? Do you understand that these are different introductions?

    • @BlizzPort
      @BlizzPort Před rokem +2

      The problem is, not a single moment past the prologue can be found in any of the books. Everything in the show is completely made up or changed.

  • @dinocollins720
    @dinocollins720 Před rokem +1

    meteor man being Gandalf is a red herring imo; smart marketing to tease Gandalf

  • @armandodemiguel7989
    @armandodemiguel7989 Před rokem +1

    As an engineer. In the scene where celebrimbor asks for ''the purest gold and silver'' and galadriel gives him his dagger. Let me say that if that dagger was made of PURE gold/silver even a tight grip would bend the handle. Gold is one of the softest metals, many years ago athletes would bite the gold medal to make sure it was pure gold.
    Anyways, they dont just melt the handle, they melt also the blade!! Worst of it after they seem to take 3 samples of the same mixture/alloy and they end up being 3 diferent materials, all of the pure.
    Made me mad. Same as the 7 floor boats numenor had to have to carry all those many tents/food/water/horses.

    • @doords
      @doords Před rokem

      Indeed. I also didnt appreciate how Nickel made the blades lighter statement by Halbrand.

  • @donnawitteried3213
    @donnawitteried3213 Před rokem +9

    I wouldn't miss these videos on Rings of Power. They really help!

  • @tylerhumphrey2412
    @tylerhumphrey2412 Před rokem +1

    The thinking Galadriel meme had me rolling lol

  • @kyleganse4978
    @kyleganse4978 Před rokem +27

    The Halbrand is Sauron became so obvious in this episode it was great the escalation. I love the beginning with the acolotyes and stranger misdirect drama haha. This was a good finale and I am excited for the series future! I’m fine with the stranger being The grey pilgrim.
    2nd season predictions is hard to make. I bet we Sauron take over Mordor and dispatch Adar? I doubt Sauron will try to put on another disguise to return to Eregion but maybe they will adjust that story line as well. Bet mithril and the dwarves will play a huge role though.

  • @joshuamurray-nevill9127
    @joshuamurray-nevill9127 Před rokem +8

    It all felt undercooked really didn't it? The lack of the Annatar form is also a bit of a cop-out. A series that both dragged it's feet and then rushed its finale.

    • @Barcaloni1889
      @Barcaloni1889 Před rokem +1

      They dont have the rights to the annatar form

    • @joshuamurray-nevill9127
      @joshuamurray-nevill9127 Před rokem +2

      @@Barcaloni1889 Ah gotcha. Still felt a Southron king taking a ring to save his people and becoming a Nazgul might have had more punch later on.

    • @Barcaloni1889
      @Barcaloni1889 Před rokem

      @@joshuamurray-nevill9127
      I tho hallbrand would be witch king so i was wrong

    • @Barcaloni1889
      @Barcaloni1889 Před rokem

      @@joshuamurray-nevill9127
      So what we now is that Halbrand right now is Sauron?

  • @celotharobar
    @celotharobar Před rokem +6

    I'm all for slow story telling, but this finale was a completely different animal, with content that I felt should have lasted an entire season before the final reveal. They crammed way too much into this IMO.

    • @lts4925
      @lts4925 Před rokem

      You tellin me that was the last episode for the season ?

  • @michaelbyrnes7386
    @michaelbyrnes7386 Před rokem +2

    Not bad, not bad at all. i enjoyed the whole season, though at times it was a wee bit slow and repetitive. i could feel empathy with the harfoots which for me is a good sign. And hope that killing of Sir Len was nothing to do with the torrent of abuse that many seemed to feel justified having a non white halfling.
    Roll on season 2

  • @martinflanigan650
    @martinflanigan650 Před rokem +4

    The writing on this production is B movie level at best. If you need it just write it in. i have a theory about our now confirmed wizard. He surely is in a role like Gandalf but that is just another example of how this series uses reflection of past creations at every opportunity. He is one of the Blue Wizards. They are on their way to Rhun where they will find his brother Wiz who will be a reflection of Rhadagast. The dynamic duo of Wizards will be reunited again for the very first time! Look for Poppy to follow along, popping up like a jack in the box, continuing her reflection of our old buddy Samwise. i am baffled why Galadriel did not reveal he was Sauron? Ego? So much for hoping she would learn a little humility as a character. Sure would be nice to sound a warning and maybe get word back to your friends down south!

  • @loggiespoggies2335
    @loggiespoggies2335 Před rokem +11

    I really enjoyed this season but I do understand why people don’t. Super excited to see what they’ll do for season 2

    • @nicomladic953
      @nicomladic953 Před rokem +1

      They butchered the ending by forcing the series to show "Suron". Suron shouldn't be a person. Suron is a mythical character; an essence or spirit.

    • @loggiespoggies2335
      @loggiespoggies2335 Před rokem

      @@nicomladic953 I mean Tolkien in his novels writes Sauron as a shapeshifter or trickster, so it’s not completely out of reach for how the show dealt with it. But I get what you’re saying

    • @larsroarh6285
      @larsroarh6285 Před rokem

      A consumer whit no sense of quality, just what they want 😄

    • @loggiespoggies2335
      @loggiespoggies2335 Před rokem +1

      @@larsroarh6285 dog just cos someone has a different opinion to you doesn’t mean it’s the end of the world. Sure, the show might be “objectively bad” but it doesn’t mean that consumers won’t enjoy it. Let people enjoy what they want 🤷‍♂️. The majority of response has been negative so hopefully it’ll lead to an improvement next season but I’ll still watch it either way

  • @jcaashby3
    @jcaashby3 Před rokem +6

    Just finished the finale. I really liked it. Glad I ignored all the drama around it and just watched it with an open mind and not worry about accuracy. I look forward to seeing Season 2!!

  • @braincrashtv8377
    @braincrashtv8377 Před rokem +1

    "I am a servant of the Secret Fire, wielder of the flame of Anor.
    The dark fire will not avail you, flame of Udûn.
    Go back to the Shadow! You cannot pass."

  • @rohitsonar103
    @rohitsonar103 Před rokem +1

    Idk but for some reason I started laughing when cultist called stranger "Sauron"😂

  • @eltonlevin
    @eltonlevin Před rokem +5

    I feel like the Sauron speech to Galadriel had a unique point of view which I appreciate. It wasn't the typical "join the dark side" kind of speech especially with the "No, not dark. Not with you at my side." It was some high level gaslighting. :D

  • @MartinBraonain
    @MartinBraonain Před rokem +29

    I agree with you about Gladriel. Her attitudes and actions now make sense. She echoes Hemingway in the first episode when he wrote all terrible things start with innocence. Her understanable but reckless revenge-focus blinded her and we can see her confusion as the world becomes more complicated, and her rage is not enough.
    A fair review.

    • @jackjohn4156
      @jackjohn4156 Před rokem +3

      She makes sense… Cap

    • @Cyrus-rodn45
      @Cyrus-rodn45 Před rokem +2

      @@jackjohn4156 she does, she has been manipulated and she doesn't know it.

    • @Peterski
      @Peterski Před rokem +7

      @@Cyrus-rodn45 She was manipulated into being a Karen and a Mary Sue?

    • @TheRodg43
      @TheRodg43 Před rokem +1

      I agree.. except at the end when she denies it and hides the fact she litterally brought the enemy there

    • @wandersonfrancisco8494
      @wandersonfrancisco8494 Před rokem +1

      @@TheRodg43 If she had said that Halbrand was Sauron, she would lose their trust and they wouldn't forge the 3 rings.

  • @GodOfWar0379
    @GodOfWar0379 Před rokem +1

    We need a meme about two frail kings dying in their beds uttering words to wrong women at there bedsides in a single week.

  • @dougd6137
    @dougd6137 Před rokem +2

    Now I've seen this last episode of season 1 it all comes together even though I was wrong when I thought Halbrand wasn't Sauron lol looking forwards to season 2!

  • @dipak002
    @dipak002 Před rokem +20

    I really liked this episode, more than 6th episode in this series. This was a deserving finale for season 1 with two major revelations and forging on the elven rings.

  • @nightview93
    @nightview93 Před rokem +46

    i really enjoyed this last episode. maybe because i'm not as well informed on LOTR (tho i've seen the films, just not read the books) as i should be, i kind of liked the pacing of the whole show. yes there were parts where it could have been sped up, but overall i loved the mystery of halbrand and gandalf. charlie vickers was brilliant and loved ismael cruz cordova as arondir (i'm hoping he'll be back for s2!) i can't wait for the next series

    • @notverynotoriousg5674
      @notverynotoriousg5674 Před rokem

      the biggest problem with the pacing is they have to tell you things, they can't show you things, which is the reverse of what people expect for tv. when characters have their soliloquies they are explaining Silmarillion to fill in gaps between Tolkien and this series that kind of acts like a prequel. I think its ok done, in that they are doing the best they can, and if you want to blame anyone blame the Tolkien estate for only selling some appendixes for a quarter billion dollars.

    • @zilvis1140
      @zilvis1140 Před rokem +1

      @@notverynotoriousg5674 biggest problem are dumb dialogues and pointless scenes...

  • @_emory
    @_emory Před rokem +2

    Did anyone else think sadoc’s death was weird? Like some of the interactions in this show feel like they were written by an ai. Just unnatural

  • @sammythebull8238
    @sammythebull8238 Před rokem +2

    I just want to point out that the absurd fact that elendil the dude who gets mutilated by Sauron had actually at one point hugged him

  • @RenegadeLK
    @RenegadeLK Před rokem +15

    Meteor Man must be Gandalf, the way they made him say “when in doubt, always follow your nose”, which is a direct reference. They’ve changed so much, they’ve probably just changed the time of his arrival. I think the Harfoot taking care of him and how close he gets with them, is a reason for the love he has for the Hobbits later on.

    • @weedhigh2564
      @weedhigh2564 Před rokem

      Nope, you are wrong and clearly dont know the source material, just like Amazon. He is not Gandalf, he is an Istari like Gandalf, but a completely other person, in cannon Gandalf comes to ME with Saruman and Radagast and his coming to ME is a huge deal, A HUGE DEAL, thats why it cannot be him. The stranger is one of the two blue wizards that were sent to ME earlier than the other 3, they go east and are never heard of again, tought to have either died or joined Sauron. They were sent to ME to do the thing that we see Galadriel do in the first episode, look for traces of Sauron and report back with the findings, thats why when they eventually dont report back and are never heard of again the Valar send in Gandalf Radagast and Saruman with Gandalf beeing specifically chosen to go on behest of one of the Valar, most of their power sealed away and taking form of old men to be less imposing and seem more trustworthy. Gandalf has a soft spot for all creatures of ME with good in them, that is because he was an apprentice to a Valar who was very compasionate and toughtfull and loving, she taught him those same lessons and that is why Gandalf acts the way he does around Hobbits

    • @BasedHorrigan
      @BasedHorrigan Před rokem

      @@weedhigh2564 so then the phrase of the istar is a misdirect and he's actually a blue wizard?

    • @weedhigh2564
      @weedhigh2564 Před rokem

      @@BasedHorrigan yeah, probably its a saying they all brought with them from Valinor or something, he is 100%, 100000% not Gandalf tho, and there should be another one as well

    • @doords
      @doords Před rokem

      @@weedhigh2564 And Amazon can make up whatever they want because they bought the rights to the source material. They already pissed off the Tolkien fans already with Sauron, why not piss you guys off some more.

    • @weedhigh2564
      @weedhigh2564 Před rokem

      @@doords thing is tho, the Sauron thing is not really that bad, I knew from the start that there was something wrong with Halbrand and that he either was Sauron or one of his lackeys. Sauron can change his appearance at will, he has many forms he uses throughout canon so his reveal, even that bad, doesnt change much, and having him go to the elves first and learns about mithrill even makes a bit more sense than how it was done in the books as it gives him a clear motivation to search for it to make the one ring and thus he needs to go back to the elves so he can steal some, which will lead them to create the rings for men and dwarves. But first Numenor and all that

  • @DT-lj1wr
    @DT-lj1wr Před rokem +3

    Season 1 was a 9.5/10

  • @MrC-55
    @MrC-55 Před rokem +1

    Gil galand has every right to be pissed…”if you only would have listened to me”

  • @christophergopeesingh5967

    I had a feeling the stranger was gandalf, the way he's presented heavily hinted to that but I was hoping they wouldn't cop out to that just for the fan service . They had a chance here to actually use the other wizards that weren't seen in Jackson's films.

  • @isaaclopez-eb6yg
    @isaaclopez-eb6yg Před rokem +11

    People just can't take the criticism that their favorite show has obvious problems. Thank you for your reviews saved me a lot of time and money

  • @charlesnadon3469
    @charlesnadon3469 Před rokem +11

    Was reading a lot of bad rep/reviews BEFORE the show started, now that my expectations were lowered even before it started I enjoyed the show and eager for season 2. Don't let negativity ruin your experience I would say...BTW great channel, always come here after an episode!

  • @danielaguilar2855
    @danielaguilar2855 Před rokem

    4:26 cracked me up I almost spit out my drink

  • @_emory
    @_emory Před rokem +2

    My only gripe is with the mithril aspect. These rings, their only special property is that they’re made with mithril. They gave mithril so much power. The implications are that the elven rings are no more powerful than sting.

  • @yzz9833
    @yzz9833 Před rokem +4

    I hope they bring back the voice effects for sauron from the hobbit, the changing tones. it was insanely creepy/demonic/malevolent

  • @clintonevans2003
    @clintonevans2003 Před rokem +21

    A fair and balanced review Paul I can only agree on the pacing and the spectacle of the show. The script needs working on and I’ve had bigger twists on the dance floor. But overall I enjoyed it.

    • @ratiounkn3210
      @ratiounkn3210 Před rokem +2

      I agree. Paul said something to the effect of “we were ahead of the show wait for it to catch up” that pretty much sums it up. Trying to be too meta and the story suffers because of it. Seems like a rookie mistake on the most expensive show ever.

    • @johannesbreitsprecher3691
      @johannesbreitsprecher3691 Před rokem

      Yeah, I agree too! I really love Paul‘s reviews compared to other channels, he is fair and makes good points.
      I really dislike the very hateful mob though, which just hates everything about the show. Like e.g. Nerdrotic and others, who literally seem to just live on rage😅
      I think, that they really should try and improve the writing, but that it was an okay start! And i am glad, we get sth set in Middle Earth for TV again (even though it is not always close to the source material, but I can totally live with that). I will definitely be watching the 2nd season (and more reviews on this channel!) :D

  • @WaelelTube
    @WaelelTube Před rokem +1

    I started to love the series. Do not understand why some people do not get that stories should be complemented with your own imagination. They are no historical collections of facts.

    • @WaelelTube
      @WaelelTube Před rokem

      Like for one person, balrog can have wings. For another, they can be metaphorical. Only idiots without imagination would start to debate.

  • @caniprokis7780
    @caniprokis7780 Před rokem

    I enjoyed the series and enjoyed your reviews even when you’re being hard on the show. Thanks for covering it!

  • @BlindTimeLord
    @BlindTimeLord Před rokem +21

    Hey Paul
    Just wanted to say that i've enjoyed your reviews of the rings of pwoer and that I hope you come back for season 2. :)
    I like the fact that you give a critical but fair review overall.
    Not enough people do this. and as you say, your not going to please everyone either way.
    But don't listen to those people and keep up the good work :)

    • @heavyspoilers
      @heavyspoilers  Před rokem +8

      Cheers mate, glad you liked them and I appreciate you watching the reviews without thinking I’m a shill or a hater

    • @BlindTimeLord
      @BlindTimeLord Před rokem +1

      @@heavyspoilers No problem. at the end of the day your just giving a review. With what you liked and disliked.
      That to me is what a review should be about. To many people get caught up in trying to be an influencer to get likes or clicks. or are just overly negative to get money etc.
      At the end of the day, People like what they like and don't like stuff to. Its called choice for a reason.
      I feel to many fans forget that these days. Plus, so many people are so worried about offending someone that they may not actually put an honest review.
      Just my thoughts buddy :)

  • @tatecarlson
    @tatecarlson Před rokem +17

    I was kind of shocked at the reveal that Halbrand is Sauron. I've read some of the Silmarillion, but not all of the Silmarillion books, so I was kind of going in blind.

    • @chiquigadon0902
      @chiquigadon0902 Před rokem

      It wasn't a surprise most of the people knows that... it was like The Southlands to Mordor!

  • @adamb8317
    @adamb8317 Před rokem +1

    I really hope they bring Glorfindel in as a combat upgrade to Galadriel. Her fighting is just nauseating to watch. Get someone who can actually fight, magic lady.

  • @MartinBryan
    @MartinBryan Před rokem +2

    The Kobayashi Maru of TV shows 😂.
    I enjoyed the finale I thought it was second strongest.
    I saw the Halbrand thing coming but was totally into it!

  • @TETASARAIVACS
    @TETASARAIVACS Před rokem +2

    When you said that Sauron wanted to “take back his land” (Mordor), I was left wondering:
    Was Mordor already Sauron’s land anytime before that? Or was it Morgoth’s land?

  • @yigzat
    @yigzat Před rokem +24

    I loved the dwarves story. I really think that next season, after Sauron gives a ring to Balin after his dad dies, Balin will dig and dig and dig, and THAT'S why the Balrog starts tearing stuff up. For now, I like how the dwarves thread worked, because they don't have the naked greed they'll have later with the rings.

  • @andresantos3487
    @andresantos3487 Před rokem +2

    Well, i wanted to believe Halbrand wasnt Sauron because for the most part he seemed to be dragged along by Galadriel. But the moment i saw him on Celebrimbor's room, already healed i was sure he was Sauron. The dude rode for 6 days or whatever with a huge wound on his belly, with no treatment whatsoever...and Galadriel didnt suspect anything? A bit naive from her part, no human would survive that. The moment Halbrand said the word ''gift'' to Celebrimbor that sealed the deal for me. On the books he tricks Celebrimbor to craft the rings by disquising himself as a Lord of the GIFTS.
    I also wanted to believe the stranger wasnt Gandalf. Maybe he was one of the Blue Wizards. Since their names are never mentioned in the books , maybe he would never learn his name, and he would meet the other Blue Wizard in Rhun...But then he drops that Gandalf line in Moria and im like '' god dang it...''

  • @TheUltimateWriterNZ
    @TheUltimateWriterNZ Před rokem

    Man this series was amazing! Such good content

  • @samg1879
    @samg1879 Před rokem +5

    Now that its finally over, I know how Frodo felt when he destroyed the ring

    • @pankjadhikari33
      @pankjadhikari33 Před rokem

      Frodo didnt destroy the ring. he tried to keep it just like everyone else. it was only destroyed because of Gollum, who fought Frodo and fell with it

    • @adamb8317
      @adamb8317 Před rokem +3

      @@pankjadhikari33 OMG are you serious it was a joke!