I actually liked the miniseries final battle because it showed the Harkonnen and Sardaukar actually fighting back against the Fremen. You can see a lot of dead Fremen on the ground in this scene. Something I wish Part Two movie showed. Instead it was just a one sided affair and the antagonists didn't even put up a fight.
Yeah that's one thing I hate about certain sophisticated directors nowadays they never get the action right at least not completely I was expecting some lord of the rings final battle top tier shit but no they jump to the conclusion and skipped all that I hate that.
@@Artorion Exactly. In Dune Part Two the "antagonists" were so incompetent that I didn't even see Paul or the Fremen facing any real threat. It was not fun to watch when the "good guy" is just a cheat code.
In Dune 2 Rabban just got shanked by Gurney on the ornithopter-pad, as if they were equals In this scene, not only do we see more of the death and devastation on both sides , but it shows the crimes Rabban must have commited against the fremen to warrant such mob justice. Additionally , I like how even though Gurney had the opportunity to shoot Rabban and avenge his Duke , he chooses to leave him. Rabban might have considered himself the counterpart to Gurney up until this point. If roles were reversed, Rabban would have saved Gurney as a prized trophy. But this dismissal was an effective way for Gurney to show to Rabban that he , in Gurneys eyes, was nothing more than a common Harkonnen thug. Gurney made a point of not claiming Rabban life , let alone keeping Rabban as a trophy worthy of celebration. Instead , Gurney turns his back on Rabban and leave him to die a footsoldiers death. Rabban does not fight his last for the Harkonnen house, but drops his dagger. He knows he has no honour, and he knows the cause is unjust. Rabban drops the dagger in a final spiteful act , not to surrender as Rabban knows this is pointless , but as a means to abuse the concept of surrender to deny his aggressors the virtue of killing an armed foe. A fitting end for a villian.
@@nocturnalrecluse1216 if you haven't watched the movie you'd be wise to not click on any dune content until you do. It's bound to have some discussion about the movie and you can't expect people to not be talking about Dune in the comments of a Dune video
interesting take, but I feel that even if Gurney thought of Rabban as only a foot soldier he would still kill him. Because that's just how much he hates the Harkonnens. He stayed back on the planet with the hope that one day he could kill them (remember that he thought Paul was dead and Jessica was the traitor so he had no house to serve anymore). Even in the final duel between Paul and Feyd, he doesn't just offer to fight for Paul, he demands, it because Paul promised him Harkonnen blood.
Freman will not, for any price, drink water harvested from a Harkonnen. They view it as “tainted,” and though they sometimes use it for cooling their weapons, most of the time they just throw it out on to the sand
It's also Dune climax if Denis actually cared about the fucking book as much as he clames to, and wasn't too bothered with shoving Zendaya's horrible acting and "Paul is Literally Shmitler" narrative down our throats. But hey, who cares about Dune' characters and lore when you can have pretty gwaphics, am I right?
"Paul is literally $hmitler" is pretty much straight out of the books. Its not subtle. In fact, I'm pretty sure he's hundreds of times worse based on body count. I had to stop reading Messiah.
@@kodyn7224 they also butchered Jessica, turning her from badass to evil witch who does nothing but manipulates people and treats them like underlings, and turned Chani into generic Gen-Z spoiled brat, who doesn't know what she wants herself and is always angry, and turned Alia into the poorly CGI'ed fetus who serves no role in the story what so ever. But feel free to boil down the defence of terrible writing and pissing on the source material to "You just hate whaman!!!11". It never failed.
@@swissarmyknight4306 he's literally not and you never even opened the damn book. If you did, you would've known that Paul HATED his role and the fact that his friends were turning into blind zealots, fought against the Jihad all the time he was with Fremen, and lead it only when he understood that it is inevitable and not even his death would stop it since at this point the Fremen would just turn him into a martyr and start the war in his name anyway. Paul in the books was a complex and tragic character, fighting against his fate his whole life, and not once he was a pure evil saying "We are the Harkonnens and so we'll win as the Harkonnens" or a screaming bloodthirsty maniac in the book which is exactly what Villeneuve turned him into. But you gotta dumb things down and strip every character of any depths for the "modern audience", am I right?
I actually liked the miniseries final battle because it showed the Harkonnen and Sardaukar actually fighting back against the Fremen. You can see a lot of dead Fremen on the ground in this scene. Something I wish Part Two movie showed. Instead it was just a one sided affair and the antagonists didn't even put up a fight.
Yeah that's one thing I hate about certain sophisticated directors nowadays they never get the action right at least not completely I was expecting some lord of the rings final battle top tier shit but no they jump to the conclusion and skipped all that I hate that.
@@Artorion Exactly. In Dune Part Two the "antagonists" were so incompetent that I didn't even see Paul or the Fremen facing any real threat. It was not fun to watch when the "good guy" is just a cheat code.
@@costco_pizza I feel ya and I hate the fact they cut out their first born being killed by sardakaur that would have added in so much depth.
Feels like a sci-fi adaptation of Aladdin. 😵💫
In Dune 2 Rabban just got shanked by Gurney on the ornithopter-pad, as if they were equals
In this scene, not only do we see more of the death and devastation on both sides , but it shows the crimes Rabban must have commited against the fremen to warrant such mob justice.
Additionally , I like how even though Gurney had the opportunity to shoot Rabban and avenge his Duke , he chooses to leave him.
Rabban might have considered himself the counterpart to Gurney up until this point. If roles were reversed, Rabban would have saved Gurney as a prized trophy.
But this dismissal was an effective way for Gurney to show to Rabban that he , in Gurneys eyes, was nothing more than a common Harkonnen thug.
Gurney made a point of not claiming Rabban life , let alone keeping Rabban as a trophy worthy of celebration.
Instead , Gurney turns his back on Rabban and leave him to die a footsoldiers death.
Rabban does not fight his last for the Harkonnen house, but drops his dagger.
He knows he has no honour, and he knows the cause is unjust.
Rabban drops the dagger in a final spiteful act , not to surrender as Rabban knows this is pointless , but as a means to abuse the concept of surrender to deny his aggressors the virtue of killing an armed foe. A fitting end for a villian.
Great synopsis, but I believe the man standing at the top is Stilgar, and not Gurney. But I understand what you are saying.
Don't spoil it damn you!! I haven't watched the fucking movie yet!
@@nocturnalrecluse1216 if you haven't watched the movie you'd be wise to not click on any dune content until you do. It's bound to have some discussion about the movie and you can't expect people to not be talking about Dune in the comments of a Dune video
interesting take, but I feel that even if Gurney thought of Rabban as only a foot soldier he would still kill him. Because that's just how much he hates the Harkonnens. He stayed back on the planet with the hope that one day he could kill them (remember that he thought Paul was dead and Jessica was the traitor so he had no house to serve anymore). Even in the final duel between Paul and Feyd, he doesn't just offer to fight for Paul, he demands, it because Paul promised him Harkonnen blood.
They wouldn't waste his water like that!
but they have the Messiah that makes arrakis green
Freman will not, for any price, drink water harvested from a Harkonnen. They view it as “tainted,” and though they sometimes use it for cooling their weapons, most of the time they just throw it out on to the sand
What is this from?
Dune
A really expensive school play
@@Blashmack this has to be the most hilarious and original joke I've ever seen regardless the miniseries. Ha-ha. You're on blast.
et tu Brute?
It's also Dune climax if Denis actually cared about the fucking book as much as he clames to, and wasn't too bothered with shoving Zendaya's horrible acting and "Paul is Literally Shmitler" narrative down our throats.
But hey, who cares about Dune' characters and lore when you can have pretty gwaphics, am I right?
"They expanded a female character and made it so I can't pretend Paul is me , and that makes me angry!"
"Paul is literally $hmitler" is pretty much straight out of the books. Its not subtle. In fact, I'm pretty sure he's hundreds of times worse based on body count. I had to stop reading Messiah.
@@kodyn7224 they also butchered Jessica, turning her from badass to evil witch who does nothing but manipulates people and treats them like underlings, and turned Chani into generic Gen-Z spoiled brat, who doesn't know what she wants herself and is always angry, and turned Alia into the poorly CGI'ed fetus who serves no role in the story what so ever. But feel free to boil down the defence of terrible writing and pissing on the source material to "You just hate whaman!!!11". It never failed.
@@swissarmyknight4306 he's literally not and you never even opened the damn book. If you did, you would've known that Paul HATED his role and the fact that his friends were turning into blind zealots, fought against the Jihad all the time he was with Fremen, and lead it only when he understood that it is inevitable and not even his death would stop it since at this point the Fremen would just turn him into a martyr and start the war in his name anyway. Paul in the books was a complex and tragic character, fighting against his fate his whole life, and not once he was a pure evil saying "We are the Harkonnens and so we'll win as the Harkonnens" or a screaming bloodthirsty maniac in the book which is exactly what Villeneuve turned him into. But you gotta dumb things down and strip every character of any depths for the "modern audience", am I right?