Smash Ultimate or Mediocre?
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
- Super Smash Bros has always been an important series to my channel, and I've been pretty critical of the direction it's taken in the past. Here though we have a new game, did it finally improve and find a perfect middle ground with its audiences or did it falter as smash 4 did before?
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Super Smash Bros Ultimate online is just a spin-off tactical rpg, it's not lag, it's turn-based combat
It's more like a PowerPoint presentation.
Well pk fire is multi hit sosounds right.
Love your video but every time you say melee I die a little inside
i realize I am kinda off topic but does anyone know a good website to watch new series online ?
Meelay
Dang someone already did it
Christopher Tapkins I’m glad someone said it, cause I was about to lol.
MAYLEE
Dammit I was gonna do that
MAY LI
I'm not playing Smash Bros. Ultimate until they add these characters:
-My dead grandpa
-My dad's tax returns
-Big Chungus
-The +4 card from Uno
-Moon Man
-Colonel Sanders
-Jack Frost from Shin Megami Tensei
-SpongeBob Squarepants
-Chin from Hong Kong '97
-Muscle Man from Regular Show
-Meatwad
You forgot Mr. Domino.
WHAT ABOUT BITCH LASAGNA
Also, make a mini game where you kill those 1.4 billion ugly fuckin' reds.
Ryan Leatigaga Matt
-No Gordon Ramsay
-No Level 35 Mafia Boss
-No Jar Jar Binks
pathetic list
It feels like Smash fans hate Smash the most.
That's fire emblem tbh
Hate is not the word i would use. Critical? Yes. But that's a good thing and that is a main point of the video.
The people who spend the most time with something understand its flaws the best. Striving for improvment isn't a bad thing and I wish people would learn to understand that.
@@DimitriMonroe
I dunno man. Tell a Smash fan that 4 is a good game and they'll sperg out and recommend melee or the outdated original game.
I wish more people would play Final Fantasy 9 for PS1 now available on Steam, PS3, PS4 and later The Switch
@@frogglen6350 This post was made by Hiroyuki Ito
@@PromKnight I will Continue to bring up FF9 until this channel makes a video on it.
Since all my videos for smash have been prophetic. Hear me out: Dante
Edit: I somehow forgot to mention this, but i do enjoy unlocking characters. It would be nice if the option was there for tourney setups to auto-unlock but for me personally, I love the experience of getting the challenger approaching screen.
Ryu from Ninja Gaiden
Pepsi Man for sure
TheSMonroeShow doomsayer because well I really want to hear BFG factory while kicking people’s ass
Either Dante or Doomguy. Mostly Doomguy because I think he's less likely to get in.
Grood video kiddo
I think the greatest thing Ultimate has done has bring the Smash community together. I'm still baffled by Nintendo's incompetency with online play, but hopefully things like that can be ironed out in time. We are paying them for this service now after all.
Also I noticed you followed me on Twitter, hope the content I post there is enjoyable lol.
I remember when Smash 4 was about to release and everyone shat on Brawl as the worst game ever and that it would be forgotten, now the exact same thing is happening with Smash 4 🤔
Monroe was a fan of brawl and even has positive videos on it. He only didn't like smash 4...so i don't really think that's an applicable accusation here.
However he mentions how now a lot of people seem to agree with his orignal opinion of 4 so maybe you have a point overall.
@@starstrati9650 You know, I'm confused why he would like Brawl but hate Smash 4 at the same time based on the reasons he's given. He complains about Smash 4 being unbalanced when Brawl had by far the worse balance in the series. He complains about Smash 4 having poor single player, and while he's right he proceed to trash on Subspace emissary when that's 60% of Brawl's single player content. He complains about Smash 4 having bad mechanics and generally being bad competitively when Brawl is objectively the laughingstock of competitive gaming. he says Smash 4 has no "identity" when Ultimate's gameplay can basically be described as "Smash 4 but with less landing lag and Melee airdodge" at the moment. Smash 4 by itself is unique from Melee and Brawl, not to mention Smash 4 will be remembered for "0.9", OP airdodges, Rage, Bayonetta, Cloud in doubles, its online being better than Smash Ultimate, being the last Smash game with trophies, Custom moves and more, so it *definitely* does have an identity even if not entirely positive. It seems biased to go all out on "Smash 4 was bad right guys" when nearly all of the criticism he has against Smash 4 can also be applied to Brawl, hell Brawl being even worse in some aspects.
I overall like Brawl more than Smash 4, by the way.
@@Shyguymask You most likely don't understand because you haven't watched my video on smash 4, however i do mention in this video that I've liked all other smash games so even then that's not an excuse and your orignal comment doesn't really suit this video/my channel.
It comes down to what i said at the beginning. Sm4sh had no identity, it felt like a slight improvement over brawl in gameplay while the modes, stages etc felt downgraded.
Brawl is not an amazing game either but it had its identity, subspace was really special, i have my problems with it but brawl still had good single player content and overall the game felt different from its predecessors. For what it was trying to be, a more casual game it succeeded.
4 fails because it feels so bland, i think most of the stages are bad, the modes all had gotten worse, and in general I'd even say the gameplay was less fun in some areas due to stuff like rage and magnet hands. It had more characters and online that worked. Thats about it.
Also i never said balance was why i disliked 4 i just mentioned it to state how ultimate had more care and effort put into it. So bringing that up is irrelevant, and your misrepresenting a lot of my points even in this video.
@@DimitriMonroe You mean a *sizable* improvements when it comes to 1v1s and competitive, right? Removal of gliding, removal of chain-grabbing, removal of infinite grab combos, removal of tripping, better balance (especially pre-bayo), giving infinite jabs a finisher and so on.
What you're saying about stages is a subjective opinion passed off as fact. Brawl also had its sizable share of shit stages including Rumble Falls, Mario Bros, Arguably New pork city and Hanenbow. Many stages introduced in Smash 4 were bland but very few of them are actually *painful* to play on like the Brawl stages I've mentioned. Omega stages were also a fantastic feature.
You say Brawl is "different from its predecessor" as your argument, even though Smash Ultimate again is basically Smash 4 with less landing lag and melee airdodge & the exact same announcer?
Adventure Mode aside, I don't see how Smash 4's modes were downgraded. Smash 4's classic mode was kind of a bit better than Brawl, at least it tried something new and had an all new boss fight replacing Master Hand on higher difficulties. All-star mode is at its best yet. Stage Builder was improved. I could go on, if anything the modes that returned from Brawl were improved overall.
Infinite Chain grabbing and tripping are 10x worse than rage and magnet hands really.
When talking about identity in Smash games, 64 is remembered because it was the first Smash game. Melee is remembered because of its competitive scene. Brawl is remembered because of its adventure mode, tripping and Meta Knight. 4 is remembered because of custom moves, footstool combos and Bayonetta.
You say that people are calling you a Melee fanboy over your video focusing on Smash 4, I'm not going to call you one but the way you're essentially saying that Smash Bros as a franchise stopped being good for over 15 years make it understandable why people would take offense to that.
@@Shyguymask No it isn't sizable because it came with its own downgrades. I mentioned some such as magnet hands, rage etc. There were improvements and downgrades even in gameplay. I do not think from my perspective its that much more fun to play.
Also you're entire argument is poor when you say "its just subjective" of course opinions are subjective the point is to back them up. Again your asking me to explain points i went over on one or two videos in some cases which just shows very poor comprehension, fanboyism or plain denial.
Brawl did have bad stages but it had a lot of good ones. 4 had hardly anything, and like the 5 decent ones came from past games.
4 has smash tour in a replacement for adventure mode, target smaah was angry birds, classic mode was piss poor it was just 8p smash battles mostly. Etc. Its just worse. I even focused on this point in the video. Its starting to sound like you didn't even watch it.
Or maybe you dont even play smash because footstools were in brawl, combos are a melee thing. Smash 4 hardly had any and yes it had custom moves that no one used but these are not what that game was known for lmao and listing negatives like broken bayonetta just proves my point that it isn't that good.
Ultimate feels unique because its playstyle, new modes it trys etc. It also focuses on bringing us everything from the past. That's one of its main points. 4 felt bland and uninteresting. I truly feel ultimate succeeds in balancing the gap its audiances.
I even said last comment brawl is a good game, so implying i think the games haven't been good since melee is you blatantly misrepresenting my argument or just you unable to comprehend basic English. All the games have issues, but 4 is the only game I consider painfully mediocre
GSP was a mistake
@@Sgt-Wolf Hot.
@@optillian4182
You are welcome.
>But why do I need to go leave character selection, leave stage selection, and make an entirely custom ruleset
T H A N K Y O U. I *really* wish there was a setting to change selection order back to how it was in old games - i honestly do like the new setup and it can be really efficient, and being able to save rulesets is a gift from the gods, but *having* to backtrack through *everything* to make minor, quick changes in casual play ("wow, fuck the ramblin' evil mushroom, let's turn that off since no one here likes that anyway"/"fuck it, let's have one match with items on high and hazards on on wily's fortress") and then having to save those changes as a new setting is so tedious
You actually don't. On the character select screen, there's a small book icon next to the the back button which allows you to change rules without backtracking. This complaint is invalid.
@@mightykid9581
Does the game ever tell you this is there? Because I never knew it was there!
@@ThatOneDudeWhoPostsStuff It doesn't tell you, but it's still in plain sight
Friendly reminder that Popeye and Scrooge McDuck are better choices for Non Video Game Characters than Goku in Smash
Fucking gaijin
Nah, honestly that sounds equally bad.
Like fred flintstone and shrek.
MisterZygarde64 Infernape is based on goku. Just bring in Infernape.
Ducktales has a video game that's pretty major
@@gruffalo57 goku Naruto and Adolf Hitler have more games, doesnt mean they'll get in
Smash didn't get worse you're just a gen one fanb- Wrong video sorry
I'm glad to finally see this come out as a huge retrospective on the game since launch. I pretty much agree with almost all of your points which is gonna make it much easier to explain the improvements and issues the game has to friends who haven't been paying attention, much more in depth than I could cover. Hopefully I can convince some friends who had fallen off the series to try it out again. I'm glad you came around on spirits mode, I know opinion on it have been divisive but I've had a lot of fun just turning the game on and playing a couple challenging matches when I have a few extra minutes. The adventure mode could definitely have used more cutscenes to propel the player through it, continuing for too long can just feel like a slog when there's nothing to break the fights up.
I hadn't even bothered looking at the squad smash or elimination, but seeing what they are could make for some really good nights with friends. Guess I'd been missing out.
Oh, and I cant believe you'd edit the footage to make it look like you beat me, thats pretty dirty
That first line made me laugh
Dig a lot of the criticisms, except the brief mention that Miis shouldn't be in the game and total disregard for how much they've improved this feature.
Without the need to design unique movesets, animations, and balancing, Mii outfits can be cranked out at a way higher speed. This gives (or gave) us some pretty nice """"playable characters"""" like Skull Kid, Geno, Isaac, Ashley and Vince, characters that would never make it into the game otherwise.
The movesets might not always match up all that well (watching Woolly Yoshi supplex a dude is an _experience_ boy howdy), but there's enough variation to sort of match well enough.
While sure, a lot of the Mii wardrobe choices are extremely questionable (looking at you, K. Rool, Knuckles and generally awful hat decisions like Spiny Shells), they're more versatile than ever.
Due to the Switch's new Mii Maker additions, Miis of popular characters like Kumatora or even Millhouse are easier to recreate, and you can jump right into Mii Maker without having to shut down the game. The voice options are quite decent too.
Maybe I just really like customization in games. It bothers me that the video didn't mention Stage Creator being removed, as Smash 4's was quite nice.
Miis no longer have stats tho. They feel way too samey.
@@SmashSSL Granted. It's especially notable when your small miis from 4 suddenly feel beefy.
@@SmashSSL The stats made them banned from Smash tournaments for obvious reasons. Glad that shit's gone
Might as well add Steve as a Mii outfit then.
@@doublesunday3922 Honestly hell yes. Mii Swordfighter would be a pretty straightforward way to add a very iconic character.
The only issues might be Minecraft's popularity in Japan (no clue) and licensing fees.
Holy shit a 30-minute video?? Very fertile of you dad 😍
Am I disabled We are all thots under the glory of Daddy Mon
Oof
yilli_ Edit it again dude. You spelled “breed” wrong
Bread me daddy
@@tonberry2670
Well I can't eat bread anymore.
Thanks dick.
You want Dante in Smash and have used your prophetic powers toward that noble goal.
Naturally, I subscribed.
As always really nice video critical in the right way. I really hope they make the menus and UIs updates everyone are asking for (especially the ruleset/hazard toggle situation) and make the online experience less obnoxious because there's some really troll rulesets. Especially when mario tennis aces suffered relatively similar issues and it took months for the devs to make any change at all and still offered a better online experience at release than Smash does.
What I love about Smash Ultimate so far is how almost every characters seems like they have potential succeed; compared to the ending of Smash 4 which was just absolutely disappointing and lack luster. Some characters could use some small buffs, but nobody feels broken are requires a nerf; it feels like it has a good balance right now and you can outplay others with any character you choose. So far in the regard it's great, I just hope future patches don't screw this up completely. Also, Banjo and Kazooie for Smash; it's the only respectable answer!
"have you actually gone back and played subspace?"
Yes, I have but I still think wol is a lot worse.
Biggest problem with Smash Ultimate: I still can't pull Palutena or Samus from the screen so she can straight shota me.
Amazing video! Smash 4 didn't quite sit right with me, but this was a great explanation of what this game did better!
My biggest gripe about this game is the tedious, obnoxious UI. Ever played online with friends? You have to select and confirm your character like 3 times, it's so annoying. NO i don't want to select chara, be brought to an icon, DRAG the icon, THEN press OK. I WAS ALREADY OK AT THE START!
Great video man, looking at what you've shown me I can safely say that Smash Ultimate is not the smash game for me, but then again I'm spoiled by Project M.
Speaking of which, is there any chance that you're going to cover Project + ("DEFINITELY not a continuation of Project M") if that game gains traction?
“Everyone in this entire game is dead,
So now you’ll play as Kirby instead.
Sakurai has taken over the game.
Fuck you anyone who think that this pink boi is LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME”
- Jocat, HIJEK
The meter bar for the ult is the best thing and so glad I can play Bayonetta without being called a tryhard.
Smash 4 Wii U is by far, the worst Smash game I've played, don't call me a Melee elitist, because I've never played Melee, but let me tell you Brawl was so much better, let me list why:
Gameplay-Sm4sh's gameplay was so boring, no hit felt satisfying, the rage mechanic was also a terrible idea, and fact the best way to beat Sm4sh is to spam Smash attacks, yep. Brawl on the other hand, every attack felt satisfying, the gameplay, while it isn't the fastest thing, it had a lot of weight to it, and the tripping mechanic isn't as bad as people say it is, it's so rare, and when it happens, it barely effects anything, I barely even notice I tripped, people just overblown this mechanic, it's not really the smartest mechanic, but it's not that intrusive.
Single Player Mode-Smash Tour, enough said for Sm4sh. Brawl on the other hand, Subspace Emissary was fun, not just the cutscenes, but the gameplay, it felt like an awesome platforming beat em up, I've enjoyed it from start to finish, the only level I genuinely hated was The Great Maze, nope, that level can burn, the only good part about that level was the finale boss Taboo.
Classic-Sm4sh, boring, Brawl, fun, enough said.
Break the Targets-Sm4sh, excuse me, what is this Angry Birds rip off? Brawl, you did fine, it's not amazing, but it's still fun.
All these things Smash Brawl does better than Smash 4, Brawl's not a perfect game, but it's a good game, you may disagree with some of my points, but whatever. As for Smash 64 and Ultimate, I've played a little bit, but not entirely, I would love Smash 64, Melee, and Ultimate.
im hoping they will adjust buffer to work like arcsys games do where they drop buffered inputs after a certain number of frames, so its there and easy to use but if you want to buffer a move you would generally need to input it during the recovery of the previous move
Glad to see someone else criticizing the new all-star mode. I was so disappointed when I played it for the first time.
That aside, I honestly don't get why so many people seem to hate SSE. Great cutscenes, varied enemy/level design (puzzles, multiple pathways, the occasional autoscrolling section, etc.), multiple difficulties for those who want a challenge, etc. There is very little with it that I take issue with. I think the sticker customization system is maybe a tad shallow (SSBU spirits are better), and I think that "great maze" level at the end is really tedious, but that's about it. It's a solid mode in my opinion.
World of Light, on the other hand, is a mode that I have very few positive things to say about. The spirit system is pretty fun, and the few puzzles it had were pretty good...but that's about it. The maps look cheap (feels like I'm walking around in a flat painting rather than an actual "world") and feel very awkward to travel on, the difficulty is all over the place (it's mostly very easy until you find a legend class primary spirit, then it's really hard for one fight, then it becomes incredibly easy again because you now have a broken legend spirit that will carry you through almost anything the game throws at you), and worst of all, there is almost no variety whatsoever. It's 15 hours of doing incredibly easy fights, followed by walking around on cheap-looking maps with puzzles on rare occasions.
I've seen people complain about SSE being repetitive, but that mode had full levels, tons of cutscenes, character customization with stickers, boss fights, puzzles, etc. WoL only has some of these, and the few things it does have mostly feel lesser in comparison in my opinion (aside from the spirits, which are more interesting than stickers), with the massive lack of cutscenes being the most obvious one. Admittedly, I regret not playing on hard mode to make fights possibly more interesting, but that doesn't change the extreme amounts of repetition.
If anyone would like to share their thoughts on SSE and/or WoL and maybe even change my mind, then go ahead, but that's my opinion as it stands now.
THANK U
Personally I prefer World of Light and this is coming from someone who loves Subspace Emissary. Subspace was great but let's be real here it's time on the spotlight is now over, Basically WoL is the way that it is because opinions on Subspace were so split to the point there was no in between so the Smash team decided to create a story mode that was new different and unique
I think it's pretty great praise that despite all of its flaws Ultimate is still the best smash bros game in the series.
That melee game would take #1 but after years of research was revealed it's apparently not a part of the smash bros series.
Ah, nice clickbait.
“Is the series great again.”
You imply it wasn’t great at some point. All the games in the smash series brought joy and fun to many.
Made money/Made people happy =/= Good. Just look at Smash 4. Or this game.
8:25 bruh miis are legitimately amazing for screwing around with and even sometimes for creating genuinely good characters such as using the skull kid outfit to create a pretty accurate skull kid. Our boy Vincent couldn't exist without miis. If you don't like miis or wish they were removed, you probably haven't been utilizing them properly. I know they might seem stupid from the outside but you can have a lot of fun with it if you give them a chance.
Been loving your vids well through out opinions make your videos so entertaining keep up the good work!
Definitely enjoyed this game when it first came out but sort of stopped playing it after I unlocked half the character roster. I should probably pick it up again soon but I got at least 8 other fighting games to play through right now so... I don't know. :(
Great video though. It's always fun watching someone explain the ins and outs of fighting games since I am a mere simpleton that just button mashes for at least 80% of the time.
Also I gotta ask other than Smash Bros are there any other fighting games you play or are you primarily just a Smash fan?
@@detectivelizard9532 I really enjoy watching fighting games in heneral, and i know the inner workings of a lot of them but i am not very good at tradiontional fighters, in terms of playing them. Smash is the only one I'm really into myself, and I'm hoping i can find the time to practice up and get better at ultimate.
So most of my fighting game interest comes from it as a sport
Also glad you enjoyed the video, thank you!
I can't believe Sakurai fucking shot Monroe
smash 4 was so clunky I skipped it just wish i could get my money back
Sorry but subspace emissary is still better in my opinion. The reason is not only because the cutscene were good but also explore the world. I mean like yeah the level design weren't good and there are some problem with them but at least they are better than the world of light. When I played it, it was fun but the more I battle and the more battle got unlock is was boring and tedious. It wasn't fun and I okay with the picture but the adventure is great. Although the boss fight was so much fun the more you know their ai but wish they were put in like how subspace emissary. ( But the themes are good and classic mode is really good so I hope later installment are like this!)
You ever tried playing Subspace in Project M? Trust me that if you do you'll be in for a treat.
@@TheMetalIsNeon yes its fun as fuck
world of light basicly doesnt do much meaningful except for a few destinct fights.even if subspace is supposed to also be a pain in the butt,at least i can get the enjoyment out of watching it on youtube since i dont have brawl.i would prefer to erase wol from existance
LPFan lol. It can be a bit a pain but it was fun exploring the world in subspace! The only that is really good about spirit mode in ultimate is the bosses because there good and leveling up spirits. I mean if had a way to level up characters that will be cool
subspace dude and monsterhunter boss are pretty neat,but gigabowser is honestly just badly designed imo.if you go into the melee,you are done basicly.galeem has a cool idea,but gets really spammy in second phase.and after that i didnt play further because 100%ing first map took a week i couldnt do anything else in and i didnt even have much fun(especially as a storyguy.as long as games arent unreasonable to play,the gameplay can be a bit worse if the story is better in my case)
"Dashdancing is more or less back"
Well that was a fucking lie
I never really saw anyone actually criticize Online until now and all they said is "it sucks why are we paying for this it's bad" so it's good that you actually criticized it properly and explained why people had issues with it. I never thought much of it since I always just play with friends but I'm glad it was a fair overview.
Though I'd take Subspace over World of Light any day of the week. WoL is fun for a few hours but it becomes incredibly tedious very quickly with no payoff. The platforming was generic but the novelty of cutscenes _as well_ as playing as non-platforming characters in a platformer, packed with bosses was a very nice touch for me personally. But that's just me. WoL is sick fan service though
I disagree on the Adventure mode part, yeah it was fun (Dear Lord please Sakurai make Master Hand playable for a mode) but the game is literally just Smash tour but longer, in Smash tour you go around, getting buffs, and in the new adventure mode, you go around, getting buffs (spirits). The funny part is that with all of the buffs, some don't even stay forever, like the giant spirits, with Customs they always stay there, and the other difference is that you actually get to play with friends in Smash tour, what makes the adventure mode better is the boss battles.
With Subspace in the other hand, it's actually fun, you have this free roam game, open to explore, and the game doesn't spam you with enemies you have to pass to get to the next level, they use original character, yeah using the real characters is great but once you beat them, there is still spirits using that character, in brawl you get to explore, you don't have limited places to go, plus you can go around, the new mode kinda breaks the use of speed running while in brawl tons of speed runs were made, some of the spirits that are hard as fuck to earn don't even have any traits like at all.
18:21 Basically adventure mode from Melee but with more characters, modes, and cutscenes to it.
I mean World of light is basically just a board game if i'm being honest, yeah we meet new characters but they are basically just reused, it defeats the point if a character that you finally got still gets replicated after saving the character, like if they can make the exact copies of the characters but stronger than them in every possible way and without needing the actual characters to make them, why did it start in the first place lmao, yeah it is still a story mode. (Kinda
Honestly, SSE for the highlight of the series for me. Although, the online co-op battles on the Switch is a whole lot of fun with a friend
I think the reason they put the characters in appearance order is because of how the dlc is added. When ever they had a DLC character they always have to place the DLC characters near the end of the list, so they don’t mess up the placements of the other characters too much. (I know the the mii fighters are still placed after DLC but that’s because they’re customisable) When they added DLC characters in smash 4, this meant that DLC characters always ended up being separated from the rest of their series, but now in ultimate the DLC being at the end makes sense because they were the latest characters to be added. (Also them being in appearance order fits with the everyone is here theme)
I love Spirits so much that I made tons of custom ones of my own in the game.
Samus got a huge buff to her charge shot and jab1, even without true followups, has really low faf, allowing you to connect into grab, utilt, ftilt, etc. Notably, thanks to shieldstun changes, jab1 is always safe on shield, even against zss frame 1 jab. Dash attack still has good utility and instant rar and the buffering system open up a lot more combos.
Even as someone who plays smash preeetty casually, I gotta agree with your criticisms for Ultimate. Still super fun, just not perfect.
Also I never even played much of 4 so I can't join the hate train on that one C:
The biggest problem this game has is that they have to sell as many copies as possible. They mustn't target competitive players only. They have to make this game as enjoyable for casual players as possible because they are the main audience.
you're saying your problem is that you wished the series would just cater to die hard competitive players? That sounds a bit elitist
@@thejedisonic67 I didn't say they should have done something differently. They tried to make the game as enjoyable as possible for as many people as possible. Casual players are a vast majority so their priorities have to be there. They tried to make this game as competitive as they could without alienating Little Timmy. And there is nothing wrong with that.
Sakuri probably will never make another subspace story type as he didn't exactly take it well when the cutscenes where uploaded online...and by that I mean completely removing smash 4s story mode , so yea probably never gonna happen
I loved the shit out of smash 4, but I feel like it's going down as objectively the worst game in the series.
Like, even if competitively one could be disgusted by brawl and love s4.............. s4 has nothing going on past the competitive side of it tbh and I hear alot of people saying that item free-for-alls arn't as great in it even.
But as I play much better game I won't forget about it.
What about the first one?
People are only hating on it to justify their fanaticism for the new game. The same thing happens with the Zelda series. Smash 4 was excellent.
I adored Smash 3DS. I feel like a lot of people ignore that game. Smash Wii U really had nothing going for it though, all I ever did on that one was the normal smash mode and the stage builder, modding in character changes to keep things fresh.
Melee is the worst Smash game bud, even Smash 64 is fondly remembered
@@Antonio-is2cn you're smoking crack bro
This idea that Konami are hard to work with is just dumb speculation. If anything Square are much worse, konami has three reps now ffs.
Ikr. Square literally let smash have 2 final fantasy games. There are more songs of Duck Hunt than FF.
@@brachmindunsparce6044 Not to mention the ammount of music from castlevania in the game!
Who do you main in project M?
You nailed the online part!
Nintendo doesn't...
Somewhere there is a PS2 thats been running since 2003. Think about that.
Everyone hates the miis :(
It’s hard for a mii main out here
Don't worry I like to play as the Miis too!
I always got my preferred rules pre patch but I agree, there should be a better way to choose the rules.
And I dislike GSP a lot, I can be near 3 million gsp but 1 loss just drains my gsp by 2 million or something, but when I win it barely goes up
I couldn’t believe that battle arena only allowed one player per switch. The whole reason I bought a switch was so me and my brother could play together against friends from out of state
Somethings you missed that I don’t like about Ultimate:
• The game doesn’t have your characters selected after a match, you have to manually repack your character,
• In quick play you can only play with one character st a time,
• The is input lag before your selection hand icon moves,
• Can’t select which Pokémon or assist trophies appear, (This is more of a dream)
• Only 32 slots for names instead of 64,
• Can’t rewind and fast forward replays,
• Battle Arena is trash because if someone leaves firming the match then the match is over. Also sometimes ppl goof off when you are trying to fight.
inb4 every update is just balance patches and nothing else
And the 5 DLC characters plus Piranha Plant
@Alexandro Torres content additions lmao
i definitely agree with the menu stuff, i always get confused when i go over to play this game with family.
Overall I love this game. I think I've spent more hours then any other games in the series. But I agree with you that it's potential hasn't exactly peaked and I do have a lot of criticism and nitpicks though. Alot of these though are just things they could add if they'd like though and just improvemtns to online. I need more single player modes. Boss Rush and traditional All-Star are a must and I want them to at least bring back home run contest. Creating 70+ target stages for each character would be crazy but it's still something I think alot of people would appreciate. Spirit Board is very addicting but i'd love a traditional event mode even if they only put 50 or less events I'd still be happy. some descriptions on the spirits would be nice so i dont have to look online. I spent hours reading each description and looking at the trophies.
As for online! Create an uranked quick play mode so I dont have to risk GSP if I just want to practice/warm up against a human player or wait upwards of 15 minutes to play in an arena. It would be nice if they could seperate GSP totals between Casual and Competitive rulesets too. They should unseperate individual character gsp however. my reasoning is that splatoon doesnt switch your rank based on weapon so why characters? I think adding more rings in an arena would be great. also i 100% agree on the online tourneys. the way they are handling the smash open is a complete mess with battlefy. I also agree about a buffer toggle.
Also... I need Travis Touchdown for Smash DLC. Strikes Again was great and I'm so amped for a sequel to 2 it's not even funny.
2023:
You get a Travis Mii Costume and a Spirit
Enjoy!
I miss default rule sets. It is kind of annoying having to choose a rule set as opposed to change it as needed. Also when rematching I hate how you have to reselect characters like its assuming you aren't choosing the same characters.
Infernape is a Pokemon based on goku so if sakurai put him along with decidueye over incineroar, not only would I have my preferred starter but goku would have some form of presence in smash. Meet them halfway. Add infernape. Even now I'd just say fuck it and put them both in if I could.
What Subspace was fun as hell even like that for me.
Honestly I would like it more than Ult but that's only my Opinion.
Because of the feeling of the characters.
Just makes me wish the roster was more balanced and you could use more characters at certain times.
Why do people like poke flotes?
i don't even know, used to be legal in melee tournaments for some reason tho
Monroe: "I can tolerate the bullshit of furries, but these Mii fighters have got to go."
You don't have to backtrack through the settings to change the rules. There's a book icon that does just that and takes you back to the rules setting.
I wish the game had a better waveland and dash dance(not just fox trot). I just can't get shmoving like I do in melee.
I'm looking forward to seeing how this game's meta develops, as well as how the development team handles patches. And yes, for the love of Dio give us patch notes.
why is it so hard to ask for platform movement in a platform fighting game
Can you please make a follow up, about the new characters and the recents updates n.n
What game doesn't have flaws?
There's no such thing has a perfect game.
I assume you haven't played dragon ball z budakai tenkaichi 3
"Theyve improved this now where it prioritizes your choices" oof, why ask for preferences if they are ignored
"... It's the first time we've gotten a truly great Smash game since Melee."
But PM tho
I recently played Subspace Emissary and I still prefer it over world of light, where is my prize?!
Anyway, I still agree 100% with you. great vid!
You have a really nice voice.
Here’s who I hope they have as dlc characters, Musashi from Sushi Striker, Ribbon Girl from Arms, Yuden or Elisanne from Dragalia lost, and Karate Joe from Rythem Heaven.
I love your pixel shiba sweater!
Out of all the preferences and rules in Quickplay, why is ping not one of them? Does Sakurai hate online players?
SMonroe can I question my sexuality with you
I actually went back and played subspace and I enjoyed just as much as before
Who is your favorite CZcamsR? For me, it's SMONROESHOW. The best CZcamsR. I even ask for extra SMONROESHOW sauce packets and the staff is so friendly and more than willing to oblige.
One time I asked for SMONROESHOW sauce packets and they gave me three. I said, "Wow, three for free!" and the nice friendly SMONROESHOW's worker laughed and said, "I'm going to call you 3-for-free!".
Now the staff greets me with "hey it's 3-for-free!" and ALWAYS give me three packets. It's such a fun and cool atmosphere at my local SMONROESHOW's restaurant, I go there at least 3 times a week for lunch and a large iced coffee with milk instead of cream, 1-2 times for breakfast on the weekend, and maybe once for dinner when I'm in a rush but want a great meal that is affordable, fast, and can match my daily nutritional needs.
I even dip my fries in SMONROESHOW sauce, it's delicious! What a great restaurant.
Stay fertile.
I don't know if it has been said but you do have to consider the fact that Smash Ultimate does not have an unlimited budget. That's the real reason the cut-scenes are sparse. The lag people occur online is because of that persons Internet service or WiFi card (some of the Switch's WiFi cards are poor performance), the Net-Code isn't really a problem. Your other gripes about the online are reasonable. Game modes got cut due to lack of development time had about 2 years to build the game from the ground-up programming wise. While more options are better even if that game mode was put in instead of every character coming back it would have 5 hours of game-play tops so its not worth.
Smash 64 was really fun and new
Smash Melee was really great with so many new characters and some fanfic shit going with Giga Bowser and the hard unlockeables
Smash Brawl wasnt very good gameplay but I just loved the story mode and since I was young I didnt know of Meta Knight
Smash 4 was lackluster but the hype for the DLC was big and I played it to 100%...but I just didnt feel the spark
My problem with videogames is that I dont feel the soul and love, I went to Sonic 2 and shit was so new and refreshing after playing the slow Mario, I went to Mario World and to see some hidden stages blew my mind, I searched every level for some secret, I went to Sonic Adventure and put so much time trying to get some rumor god chao
Games used to be diferent, to do more, and not to be spoiled to me, they might had been niche...but that made them great for me, I didnt went on a 100% comercial product, I went into a nerd crazy imagination with a team making it comercial, now we just get "Oh yeah look we still are *insert x game* recognize this and this? We wont change or we will change everything, we make stupid changes and everything we do barely will excite you"
Last 2 games that made me feel happy and powerful were BoTW and Oddysey, previoud to that Shovel Knight,Binding of Isaac, Shantae and the Pirates Curse, Bravely second/default were some of the few games to make me excited
older games experimented more, new games feel very afraid to let any budget go to waste
@@likeanuuk6612 Yes and no, Nintendo for example has done weird shit to seried we didnt want any major change in, Paper Mario (loses all personality and battle mechanics), Animal crossing (the board game that sucks), Metroid (Hacing V.A suddenly), Pokemon (B/W was good but they no longer make 1 enhanced version but sequels or A.U), etc
We all wanted to smash waluigi but I guess that ain't gonna be happenin anytime soon.
The horrible online is the main reason I barely touch my Switch any more and have switched from Smash to Rivals of Aether. Still enjoyed Metroid Dread and looking forward to Pikmin 4 and Prime 4, but I refuse to pay for such a god-awful online "service" that struggles to do the bare minimum. Not to mention some of the final DLC characters (Steve and Kazuya) are just stupidly overpowered.
Credit where credit is due, the roster is for the most part pretty well balanced. There are still clear low, high and top tiers and low tiers aren't going to ever be able to consistently win major tournaments because the balance patches did little to nothing for the majority of them though. Another area where Rivals is much better than Smash.
The roster is also awesome. K. Rool had his spot coming for a long time and Simon and Ridley both had me jumping out of my seat.
As someone who does order the roster for fun, you can't do it in Ultimate. You just can't. There's too many characters and DLC will mess it up even more. The way they did it is the only real way it would work. My real complaint is how they did echoes, I think the distinction is dumb they should have gotten proper numbers as to really show the eras properly and I wish the announcer said the name of the Pokemon on PT if you specified like in Brawl.
Jesus, I would love Tournaments online but I'm glad they aren't here, just imagine the lag
I personally disagree with this,
All-star mode sucks and is way too much to fight them all back to back without rest, the resting areas were a good thing for it, kind of the same as Pikmin's day transition, where it feels like a fresh new start. All-star waiting rooms felt like you could have a breather and anticipate the next fight, especially with how the game told you which fighters you've beaten and which ones are next. I feel like throwing them all in one go, especially in a set order, is bad because then you HAVE to beat them in order, or you'll see the same characters until you improve. Some could argue that's a good thing, but I disagree, they should've randomised which order characters spawn. It also results in some "Choke points" where there's nothing but projectile characters which have almost-normal knockback as opposed to severely lowered.
Adventure mode sucks because there was SOME air of mystery and depth to subspace, where there was always somewhere new to explore until you... *did* it and found everything. WoL just felt like I was navigating an overworld map in skyrim but instead of moving the map and cursor to go places, I had to go there manually/by walking.
The spirits and spirit fights, while some where cool, were just lazy and inspired by "What if we make this smash character look like this and play as if they were in their own game?" I can think of one right now, on the fly. Dragonborn, Link (red), likes to use smash attacks, lowered gravity, only certain enemies emerge from assist trophies (Rathalos) on the bridge of Eldin. It just feels kinda lazy.
I love smash but to love something is to be able to admit its flaws.
Frankly, I don't see why everyone hates the Miis so much. They are an important part of Nintendo's history, and represent one of the most influential developments in gaming as a whole. In terms of Smash as this sort of Gaming/Nintendo anthology, they deserve their spots more than a lot of characters on the roster. If you don't like how they play, you still don't have to play them, but there's no reason to be against them being in the game at all.
kazoo music in the background
how melee players see sm4sh
He look cute for a game designer 😳
@Shaman X bruuh whyy
game designers ugly?
On the K rool nerfs, he specifically was like "K rool isn't broken, people just have a "no fair!" mentality with him... GIT GUD"
16:36 pffft, good trade off? 😂
I think the menu change was honestly an improvement. Makes more sense to me.
Don’t worry buddy. There is more stuff coming soon. Maybe we’ll get target smash and board the platforms.
Rules and how the roster is listed is definitely my biggest problems like it looks so disjointed
16:42 well well
It only took the release of ultimate to show me how stupid I was and show me all the reasons why 4 was flawed.
Love the sounds of Magmoor Caverns
man i love the muscle cat
Your pronunciation of Melee triggers me. Beyond. Belief. Anyway, now to actual stuff.
To my knowledge, the reason Snake has no new or updated Codecs is because the VA for Colonel sadly passed before they could record anything. Cloud is the one screwed over by corperate stuff.
As for Games and more, I like it but it's lacking in Smash Staples. Though, I'm sure that Nintendo will be doing as Kirby star Allies did, and release some free content on the side to add to G&M.
WOL is both the best and worst part for me. On one hand, I like the bosses and some of the spirits. But God damn does it get tedious eventually. It's kind of a shame too. Because it could be good, but I think it's worse than Subspace. At least Subspace had character interactions and fun stuff. As is, WOL is ok, but shouldn't have been as long as it is. Though it is slightly worth it more than Subspace for surprise stuff, I think it's somewhat lacking. Objectively it's probably better than Subspace, but I think Subspace had more charm to make up for the shit it puts you through.
On the whole, Ultimate is a fine game, but it suffers in a few areas. I'd say that, on the whole it's probably still the best smash game, but it isn't replacing any of them (Besides maybe Melee. But Melee refuses to die.) because of the other stuff it lacks. Though one thing I like more about this game above all else is the attention to detail for most characters. G&W being the standout example.
Wait he's still alive I'm sure? I checked Paul's alive right?
@@BossBasher I meant the Japanese VA. sorry for the confusion.
The Campbell japanese VA excuse is stupid tbh
"Objectively WOL is probably better than Subspace" What?
20:15 I SAW THE PART WHERE I WAS PLAYING AGAINST DIMITRI AND I CLAPPED
15:00 Look on the bright side. At least if Adventure mode's story is underdeveloped, it won't be biased out the bum for Kirby
Ikr
i does make sense why he can escape tho
@@soltrice Because Sakurai wrote a boss that only Kirby could escape from.
Hmmmmmmm
That chair looks amazing.
2:08 That's wrong. Hitstun was *lowered* from Smash 4.
www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/8sm5q8/reduced_hitstun_and_high_base_knockback_was_a/
Pretty sure that's based on the demo, not the actual game.
I thought about buying the online mode. Now I know.