Pokemon's Future Is Worrying
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- čas přidán 30. 05. 2024
- Now that things have calmed down, I wanna talk about my feelings on the state of GameFreak and the pokemon series, because while the complaints might be justified I believe there are far bigger issues at play here
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro
00:30 - Misinformation
3:00 - National Dex & Compromise
7:24 - Pokemon's Refusal To Evolve
13:42 - Positive effects of Criticism
17:30 - Passion For The Core Players
19:19 - Final Thoughts
20:50 - Outro
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Credits:
Jethrotex - HGSS footage
PokeTips - 3ds framerate . - Hry
Pokemon is just a front for Ken Sugomori's waifu ring operation
He's already given you Hilda, who will he hold over us next?
@@VenomothManne Ghost boy looking kinda cute.....
@@DimitriMonroe Excuse me, I staked a claim first binch.
If only. Besides the female protagonists, there's so much npc trainers, include side characters, mothers,gym leaders,elite four members,trainer npc classes,etc. And Gardevoir. Who may or may not be a trap.
I got the top post on r/persona5, are you proud of me father?
“In this sensitive 2019 culture, people can’t handle being wrong” -Guy who regularly turns off his comment section when he’s wrong.
Is that Verlisify?
Fritz Philogene II yup
@@grandarkfang_1482 who else would it be Bird Keeper Toby?
Actually it’s the like to dislike rating is what he disables
Who said this?
But Dimitri, pokemon is a game franchise made for kids. That means you can't criticize Game Freak's absolutely insane business decisions.
And don't you know that they *_need_* the games to help market the card game and the anime?
Then GTA V is made for kids.
It's just a game, stop taking it so seriously. It's not like there are countless examples where games meant something right? /s
@@grandarkfang_1482 They need the games as a marketing tool for the new designs that they'll start printing on coffee mugs and backpacks and making plushes of. If memory serves, the games, anime, and cards COMBINED make maybe a third of what the rest of the merch does.
That's what the games are now. A delivery mechanism.
@@MediaMunkee they don't need the games to market their shit, look at how well JoJo and YuGiOh have been doing.
Back in the X/Y day: "we're making these models future-proof"
Now in SwSh: "we have to make the models from scratch"
So either they're incompetent or they lied at least once.
They did not make the switch you incompetent fool. The could not know Nintendo would make the alot more powerfull switch at that point. You lack of perspectiv make look like an idiot.
Hahahaha what? You think 3D models are "exclusive" to a system or something? You have no idea how they work? Even if they thought "oh, we have way more possibilities now that we have a more powerful system" they shouldn't have to remake everything "from scratch".
Stop being so gullible to the point you'd comfortably accept an inferior product from companies willing to give lame ass excuses, that's how the situation got to this point.
You just a entiltle brat. The former games are made for a resolution that are worse then a yr 2000 box tv. So yeah the have to make them from scratch. You can't just up scale a model from shitty graphics to HD and think all is fine. You don't know shit about programing if you think that possiable. Its easier to make them from scratch in that case and then you also sure it works.
X/Y is 6 years ago moron. Game freaks had no way of knowing that 3 years after the switch would release. They also future proved the models they are used in sun and moon so no lies from their site.
Its pretty obvious that they never planned to make a game for the home consoles before the switch came out.
That barely has to do with programming, "you don't know shit" about modeling according to what you're saying. All these models have been reused already not just on 3DS, but on Pokémon Go and on Let's Go, there's very accessible and extensive work and analysis around how these models are made to be easily worked with already, so i won't waste our time on that subject. You're just using the same buzzwords used by all the excusers that don't understand how it works so "let's have faith in Gamefreak".
The Switch being such a "more powerful system" is also another thing that makes accepting a lesser product even more laughable anyway. Stop using this excuse, it makes Gamefreak look worse.
True it does not have much to do with programing. But I know models made in bad resolution can not just be up scaled, it require some work. You can down scale it without trouble if its made in high resolution.
The switch is more powerfull and if you have seen the new videos their is small framerate drop in the city atleast, so the switch is getting pushed. You don't know about the game features and other stuff make the more immersive neither do I. But framerate drops tells that they really can't push it more without it having effect on performance.
Buy the game or don't but since they go with a entire new concept that is a upgrade from the old i don't think people have something complain about. Its a new chapter in the pokemon series you can take it or leave it.
9:34 Honchcrow: Ducking dies.
Also Honchcrow: I tip my hat to you. One pokemon to another.
Shiny Samurott Change da world
My final message
Goodb ye
3:53 ''It was weird, so I just killed it''. History of humanity
I can't believe Call of Duty innovated their games before Pokemon did.
Blue BO3 was the last one that felt innovative, BO4 feels like a reskin with a battle royale. MW 2019 feels like old COD tho, I’m hearing great things about it
@@Charle_Z I'm glad you brought that up. Because Call of Duty is starting to go through the situation that Pokemon is facing. The only difference is they have three separate studios that take turns making and releasing games. Nintendo tried to replicate that same model with the Pokemon series but forgot to hire other studios. The Pokemon games are bad because GameFreak has to RUSH. Adding Pokemon to a PokeDex wasn't the issue. The issue was making the game balanced with 900+ creatures, thousands of strategies, thousands of moves, etc. That process alone can take up to a year. They were fresh off of Ultra Sun and Moon and Let's Go they clearing had NO time to complete Sword/Shield.
Right?
@@CreativeGeoff I mean....many would say they've already gone through that situation...funny enough not many complain about games like classic mega man (or the main focus for anything mega man now) or kirby games. If there aren't other studious then they didn't really replicate the same model heck I don't think they really tried to do that either. let's go really didn't have many pokemon you could get in it aside from well gen 1 pokemon and the melmetal line.
Also the 3DS games aren't bad.
@@TheOneBoom yo the one boom didn't know you watched Pokemon
true fans criticize, when they see what they love, move in a wrong direction. I love Pokemon, but I hate the direction Pokemon is moving.
Don't say true fans. Just fans.
That’s you lol, I don’t mind where it’s going and I’ve been playing it since gen 1 so am I not a true fan
@@cherrypie581 i won't comment whether your a true fan or not, but your standards for a good game, must have been lowered if you really think that. Crystal is still one of the best game they made, due to the fact that you could revisit Kanto, after playing through johto. They have just gotten lazy over the years and it is showing.
ElementVoidX according to who? A few poketubers? The majority disagrees
@@cherrypie581 yeah that is why this video has 10 times the upvotes than it does down votes... you are so defensive you can't even see the problem.
Well, there's this take about Satoru Iwata coming in at the development of the second generation and being so damn confused about how badly optimized was, he had to step in and that's how they got space to add the Kanto thing.
That was Satoru Iwata (God rest his soul) and not Shigeru Miyamoto.
@@paragonyoshi4237 thanks for the correction
@@paragonyoshi4237 wasn't it also satoru who made the system that even allowed them to put 2 gens on one cartridge, which they used a modified version of to make majoras mask?
So Iwata was the one who made Pokémon what it is now.
With his death, Pokémon will soon follow...
@@lunatic0verlord10 Seems like it
Analyst: You have to do... nothing for Pokémon to sell.
Gamefreak: That's way too much!
i didnt agree but i still laughed
I agree and laughed. It’s your move
I agree!
I disagree however i did laugh it’s your move
I agreed and laugh because of the joke,your move
Imagine trusting Masuda's word when his philosophy is "We need to make a game to have more people play on phone"
I'm so glad people are finally calling Game Freak out. I've felt the series stagnating and lack passion since X&Y
gen 6 is my least favourite by far, followed by gen 7, the rest are at least good
GF never should have went 3D.
@@spicyananaspizza If this is the way they're gonna handle it, then yes I agree.
true
They are still using the same models as X and Y
Oh, Verlisfy talking about how people can’t handle being wrong is just PRECIOUS.
“Hi kettle, I’m pot. How are you doing today?”
The amount of estrogen in that guy is disturbing
TheSporehacker has to search up what that word means. Completely agree.
I'm curious as to what this means, can someone explain? Idk who Verlisfy is I just found this video
@@user-jn1wm3tb8v the rightfully designated hated asshole of the Pokemon community.
Basically, he regards his opinions as facts. Will double down on them and ignore/spam/report anyone who disagrees.
"man, can't wait to play the new pokemon gam-"
Monre: POKEMON'S FUTURE IS WORSE THAN YOU **THINK**
"o-ok, sorry"
NO FUN ALLOWED 😤
its ok to like bad media
Why do you care?
Its the truth though. This is the worse its ever been.
lightsinx We’ve been on this track since X and Y its only now that people are angry
I love how Fire Emblem got 4 paths all 70 hours long, hundreds of new mechanics, old mechanics brought back, every single line in the game voiced and the most flexible class system in the series. Meanwhile Pokemon cut a bunch of content and replaced a bunch of mechanics with a single worse one.
Thank you.no homo i could kiss you right now .before pokemon came out on switch everyone was like more powerful system.oh gigantmaxing better than mega just pokemon getting bigger.12 alcremie forms necessary.feh make killing off and i know i playing last year march
But fire emblem three houses also had to sacrifice unique animations outside of battles, one location to run around in without much in the way of grand views, and staging of scenes with Kingdom Hearts 2 levels of model animations, a lot of telling instead of showing (I still love the game mind you, I was surprised others did too because it had stories to tell, nice enough voice acting, and depth in other areas)
@@TheKpa11 Nothing you have said is anything IS has done with the franchise before Three Houses, they didn't sacrifice 'unique animations outside of battles' because they never had that in the franchise prior. The only other game that had more than 'one location to run around in' was Echos. And sure, the animation was pretty lackluster... but have you seen the Fire Emblem games that came out around KH2?
Three Houses takes Fire Emblem to its next natrual next step.
@@seacliff217 I'm basing this on how far games have come and how they're built in this day and age is all I'm saying. It may not have had those things because it was in text with still images, but it also doesn't make it any less distracting, baby steps are there sure, but it also feels behind.
It's the same with Pokemon in that regard, it's impressive to what came before, but in the grand scheme of things it should be a bit farther ahead, and even then "Fluent animation" doesn't automatically mean better story telling either.
@@TheKpa11 behind or not its still a huge leap for the series it self that more than we can say for pokemon
Me in 2016: Oh man, Pokemon really is a great franchise. It's a shame I don't have enough money for the 3DS. I'll propably get one in the future!
2017: People are saying that the 3DS is dying. Well, I guess I'll just have to save up for that new console. It's portable, so there propably will be some Pokemon games on it. Odyssey looks great too!
2018: Ok, so the first console title just released... it's glorified Pokemon GO, but it's just a spinoff and it does have some cool features, so maybe? I want that console either way though.
2019: lemme just... **opens DS emulator**
Just gonna drop this here, while it might not be worth buying for Pokemon alone, the 3DS has got some great games that I think are worth checking out. One of my personal favorites is Kid Icarus: Uprising.
Also when people were yelling that the 3DS was dying, jesus Christ that was overblown. Not everyone was gonna buy a Switch when it came out, there were still more 3DS owners than Switch owners when people were yelling that shit at the top of their lungs, and despite their rampent claims guess what Nintendo kept pumping out content for the thing, it was certainly close, and was gonna die eventually, but it wasn't dying yet. By around mid 2018 I would say is when it really started slowing the hell down.
(God the whole "USUM should be on the Switch" argument gets on my nerves. Face it, you let fake leaks get to your head and now you're just angry, but you can't blame the company for not meeting standards they never set, and while there is an argument to be made that they shouldn't be thing themselves down to such a strict release schedule, next to no one was arguing that, instead just saying that it should be on the thing or how cool it would be if it was. At least now people are making more sensible arguments against these games.)
Gorade
Let’s also be 100% honest for 5 seconds… KI:U deserves to get a sequel on the switch. They’ve already ported Hyrule Warriors from 3DS to WiiU to Switch, and the rest of the 3DS/WiiU games that didn’t blow (Star Fox) either have direct ports or sequels (and if you’re a certain Umbran Witch you got 2 ports and a sequel incoming whenever Platinum gets around to finishing 3)!
A 3DS is seriously only good for story between entries (FE, KH…) some old systems (mega evolution, the GOOD Pac-Man stage in Smash…) and KI:U since it was abandoned by daddy Sakurai who only used the IP as a way to add another Smash character but ended up making a FANTASTIC game that deserved better hardware and controllers
@@gameinsane4718 I've never had a problem with playing games on the 3DS, even as a 16 year old (though that isn't saying much, and probably speaks more to how small my hands might be), so it never bothered me, but I can understand how it could be difficult for larger handed people. What I care more about is hardware, fucking IMAGINE how good even a remaster or an HD version of KI:U would look on the TV screen, or even in portable. Some of these bosses can be even further realized than before by not being limited to the 3DS' shitty 3D models. I think at the very least, if Pit and Palutena made it in smash, KI:U deserves at least a Switch port, even if he won't make a completely new game.
My only problem with it being on the Switch is I only have joycons for controllers and Joycon drift would ruin my fucking day on a game like KI:U. I would imagine that would be asinine to try and wrestle with. But that's rhe only problem I could really see with it.
Gorade I literally broke the shoulder on my 3DS playing it and later my N3DS. Some friends literally could not play for too long due to them having huge hands.
Aside from that the game was a masterpiece for the system it was on and with a pro-controller it’d KILL on the switch
@@gameinsane4718 What the actual fuck, how?
I feel like in order to break your shoulder you'd also have to be doing something unrelated to the controls, like falling and tripping.
Pokemon lost my business, this isn't even stagnation this is plain going backwards.
Pokemon taking that "This game looks like a ps2 game" meme to heart
Fucked up thing is I can name ps2 games that look better then Pokémon sword and shield ff10 mg2 mg3 kh 1 2 and rechain of memories and so much more Jesus what happened to Pokémon
I love ps2 ear jrpgs; however, when your trees come straight out ocarina of time we got a problem.
Put a few filters over Snake Eater and it honestly looks significantly better.
Honestly i think it looks worse than PS2 game, i mean SOC is one and for PS Vita Gravity Rush looks way better.
@@sharperwhisper9752 I can name arcade games from the late 90s that look better than Pokemon S&S.
I’ve been really disappointed with the fan base of this game. I really want SnS to be successful and I’m still hopeful for the game to improve but the willful ignorance is just painful. We don’t criticize the game because we hate it, we criticize the game because it can be BETTER
Yes, it could be so much better it hurts
Simple Weirdo fr it’s crazy
Uh why are you facepalming neato?
And it will be successful
@cold Casual so you want the game to be successful? okay so you want the next games to be as shitty as this? if they have a success with this they will continue with this shit and lie again and again.. it has to fail so they can do it better
Nice to know not everyone is defending everything game freak does. This is a very lazy or at least incompetent effort.
You see Mario's jump to the Switch. You see Zelda's jump to the Switch. Does Sword and Shield evoke the same excitement those two games did when they were announced? Chances are, it does not, and rightfully so.
I was super excited for SwSh, but as soon as the first trailer dropped, I was not impressed. It looked okay, but nothing extraordinary, and it felt the same as the games we'd been playing on the 3DS. As soon as the Dexit criticisms started to arise, I was hesitant as I thought it was bound to happen at some point; but as I kept thinking about it, I got angrier and angrier. It's not that they're cutting Pokémon what bugs me, it's the lies and little effort they seem to put into the games. Honestly, I don't think they have shown anything that the New 3DS wouldn't run if the game were developed by a competent team.
My thoughts exactly.
And dyna/gigantamax is another turn off for me too.
By the way, this doesn't excuse anything, but apparently SwSh was made by Team B while Team A (the team that usually makes Pokemon games) was put on Little Town Hero
Oml a shinx!
King Phoenix I wanna die so bad it hurts man...
Oh god that’s terrible
"Once something grows past it's peak the voices of the people whose love grew it grow weaker and the voices of the majority who hitched on along the top grow stronger. As old voices grow faint and new voices boom old experiences can be reused and unchanged with little consequence. This is a product on life support.
Death in a product occurs during it's achieving of neverending life."
What’s the source of this quote? I wanna use it for future reference.
@@blepthebleep469 Me too.
You gotta cite the quote, I wanna know who said it
Why the fuck this quote hit so different
Yet Fire emblem BOUNCED back with three houses
I think one of the bigger misunderstandings so far has been with the exp share. People just want the option to turn it off, like in the previous games, but the other side of the fanbase took it as, "I want this out of the game".
Thing is we dont even know it can toggle. All we know is that its on by default and is no longer an item. Going off purely by half the info given is stupid imo
@@DJPrimeAmvs I think a lot of people know that, they're just letting out their grievances in the event that it really is always on.
@@DarkestHarvest well it makes them look stupid for going in half cocked, and if it turns out that it can be turned off, theyll look more stupid.
@@DJPrimeAmvs Is there something wrong with being upset at the possibility that it can't be turned off?
@@DJPrimeAmvs It probably won't have an On/Off option, mostly because it's the only reason I can think of for them turn an item into a setting, also, when the auto-save feature was presented, they made clear that you would be able to turn it off, but no mention of something similar when they talked about the EXP-Share.
I'm just going to correct something "the deeeev" said, as a game animator myself.
Animations are transferable AS LONG AS the number and nomenclature of bones match. Why ? Because when you import animations from a workspace to another, you don't import geometry, you import baked BONE POSITIONING data. It's the bare minimum. The rig/skin is a separate import. OBVIOUSLY, if the latter is not fixed and tweaked, the result will be hellish and some unassigned vertices won't respond and stay in place, or there might be some errors because of the weight distributions being vastly different for each receiving bone, but it's not their positioning (aka animation) that is at fault. You just gotta redo the skin correctly for your receiving model/bones. Any correctly weighted model WORKS. That's why SSB swaps work and look goofy. The model and the bones are skinned correctly, but the bones are in a different position in space. That'd how you get buff Pikachus.
Look, if it weren't possible, animators wouldn't have neat tools like StudioLib to transfer anims from one model to the other, or fun tools like that stock animation site where you can even put a random Pokemon and they'll magically walk realistically or dance (works best on 2-legged ones), or HECK, the chinese proved you can transfer anims around. Geez. I can't believe the desinfo at times.
Absolutely agree. I read their response and was just like "this is bs; anyone with basic understanding of 3d animation will see through this."
Lmao Verlisify saying people can't handle being wrong when he's wrong about 99% of the garbage that comes out of his mouth and never handles it.
You are the perfect proof, Verlisify was 100% right all along. Good job.^^
I feel like the should give the Pokemon IP someone else. Gamefreak must be in complete Pokemon burnout. It would be like if Sony had Naughty dog keep making Crash Bandicoot games.
Yeah, yet another reason I don't think they should do annual releases. I think the fans are also getting burnout and would be mostly understanding if they took a few years off and came back with a fresher experience for the game.
honestly, i think it would be great to see a pokemon game developed in-house by nintendo. imagine the quality of it if it was deved by a real AAA studio (im not nocking GF, its just they are kinda a small company compared)
@@temshop5757 just one question...what if it turns out the same way?
@@DJPrimeAmvs them i guess pokemon is done for then IDK
A problem is that there are other movie parts to Pokemon, like the anime, so GameFreak has to keep up. I’d be fine with waiting a few years for the next games, but I don’t think it’ll be possible with the current situation.
Luigi's Mansion 3:
* Gorgeous as fuck
* Expressive animations
* Amazing gameplay that improves upon the original
* Fun, creative areas
* Great music
* $60
Pokemon Sword and Shield:
* Ugly, flat graphics
* Minimal animation
* Same aging battle system used since 1996
* Empty, spacious areas
* The music's fine, I guess
* Over half of the Pokedex gutted
* $60
You know what’s the sad part?
Fire Emblem, the community known as one of the most toxic and fractured gaming community, is having a golden age right now... the Awakening Babies are enjoying Three Houses and wanting to play older games, GBA Vets aren’t complaining and also enjoying the new game, and even newbies to Three Houses are being accepted into the community!
This is crazy! How is a Fire Emblem game getting a 90%+ positive review while Pokémon has a >30% positive review? When Fire Emblem is 3 times more positive about a new game then Pokémon it is a problem...
This is the first Pokémon game I don’t want to buy, sad times
Soggy Pharaoh True I just find it ironic how it’s the other way around now
Soggy Pharaoh Yea I am too, didn’t even know if these series until like 4 years ago. Pokémon has felt stagnant since gen 6, Sun and Moon were a slog to get through and I barely finished it and I played maybe 30 minutes of let’s go? Sword and Shield seems to be the nail in the coffin for me, new Pokémon designs look cool but I don’t see much point in getting it.
Recently got a lot of my things stolen from me including my Pokémon games so I would have to start over anyway. Hopefully GF changes back to their roots and goes back to giving it their all (especially since Town flopped)
Soggy Pharaoh Yee hopefully, too much money to quit Pokémon. Nintendo will follow the money lol
@@double2254 How bad did Town flop? Honestly, I've never got interested in the game and forgot about it when it came out.
@@briannawilliams3155 look at the gameplay and reviews lol
I think fanboys reject critique in such a hair pulling manner because of deep insecurities from the way they internalize the health of a series.
A great example ironically comes from Kitchen Nightmares. There are times where the restaurant owners get superbly defensive when Ramsay is critiquing food they didn't cook from a chef they don't like, even validating their own thoughts. Yet they still lose their minds and say the most incoherent things because they identify with the restaurant as a whole and are scared of putting down the defense mechanisms that kept them going. They have to let themselves be vulnerable to evaluate the problems and it's terrifying.
It's a very human problem, and human problems require human solutions.
"GET IT TOGETHER YOU FOCKING DONKEY"
When you were referring to kitchen nightmares I thought you were going to analyze it’s fan base or something for a second
I mean... some of the people I’ve seen critiquing the game haven’t been the most objective people either, offering their opinion as something factually wrong with the game. Both sides have problems.
Wow deep
@@darkraiking680 Criticism is still better than yes-men.
@@FieryMeltman Yes, but I think factual problems more than opinion arguments are more persuasive. Which is why my only real problem with this video is on their opinion that SwSh has shown all the good stuff and "Played their hand". Since the game isn't out, we are not certain if they have shown us everything, we can guess but until the game is released, we can't determine if they've shown the strongest things with factual certainty. Its also their opinion that what has been shown is not good. I think the things they've shown could be interesting.
Honestly if Dexit was the only thing I had against modern Pokemon, I would still be hyped for these games, but the franchise has appealed to me less and less each entry.
The 'dungeons' in Sun/Moon, for example, are barely ever larger than two empty rooms. The meat of Aether Laboratory... an endgame dungeon, is two large rooms, three small rooms, and a hallway. Trials felt like an excuse not to do more extensive puzzles or gimmicks from the Pokemon gyms, while also not being nearly as interesting.
Legendaries are as easy to find in the post-game as candy is to find on Halloween night. ORAS decided to dot every legendary before it on a single map, and outright handing the player two of the regional legends.
Postgame is non-existent as well, they could have done something lazy like include like a ten trainer gauntlet of six level 90 Pokemon each where items are restricted just to give players an excuse to spend hours and hours grinding and that would still be more satisfying than what we had in Sun/Moon or X/Y.
I still had these complaints before dexit, among the other things pointed out in this video. Pokemon hasn't exactly innovated the monster-collecting genre in 20 years, but it still massively outsells the competitors simply because it's more popular, even though the experiences now have trimmed off so much fat over the years.
I'm on the same boat as you I love Pokemon but there are so many problems. My biggest problem is that fans accept such badly made games that lack content. What I hate the most are games like emerald, platinum, black and white 2 and usum. They aren't bad games, Actually their better than the original version in every way and that's the problem, people will buy the original and the remade version which is basically the same thing just better. They keep eating this shit up and Pokemon keeps putting them out. It would be so much better if they waited one more year and release the original version as the one with the remade. Imagine sun and moon was actually usum, it would be so much better and they have even more time to add more things into the game. And now only once Pokemon had to be sacrificed for people to realise how money hungry gf is. And honestly people saying just don't buy the game, it doesn't work. I only buy the original game version and skip the remade ones, and I skipped both usum and let's go.
@@kevmeteor7554 While I think B2W2 has enough new content and changes to justify a new release, I do agree that the 'definitive edition' scheme is pretty annoying. And even then, Yellow, Crystal, Emerald, and Platinum at least came out on a time or on hardware where DLC wasn't really a thing. USUM, however, shows Game Freak isn't willing to adapt along with the modern era, being released on a console that has seen DLC both for adding additional content and for entirely separate campaigns. Why should extra content, worth an extra $15 at most, cost another $40? And that's assuming the Pokemon Company litterally won't allow GameFreak less than yearly releases to finish their games properly.
I wouldn't scorn the 'don't buy it' slogan just yet though before dexit we were simply the minority. After Dexit... we still are, but at least larger and vocal. The goal isn't to have SwSh fail... no one in their right minds believes that will actually happen. But slightly underperforming is more of a victory than you might think.
@@seacliff217 u have a point, I just feel like millions of people will still buy Pokemon sword and shield. I think the lowest amount they sold was 8 million which was usum. So we will see what the sale numbers are this time
Jesus fuck thank you!, I've been saying for years that trials were essentially just normal gyms with a barely noteworthy gimmick just like most gyms have
@@kevmeteor7554 It was actually BW2. Which is sad, it is by far some of the best games in the franchise (if I didn't love the original BW so much I'd say that they are the best) but they sadly underperformed (maybe due to the fact that the 2 discouraged some people from buying who knows). This could be seen as a big reason why they changed policy, one of the game where they put the most effort and passion in flopped really hard so why bother ?
I just hate that they expect me to pay £50 for what is essentially a 3DS game
I'd rather spend that on a mint copy of Soul Silver tbh 🤷♀️
Lucky for you its£50... It's $80 CAD.... Such a ripe off... :(
I started replaying SS a few days ago and still love the game, which in my opinion is better than anything post gen 4
Leopoldo Ferrari
It’s not that I don’t like the games but you can tell that they are no where near the level of gen 3 - 5.
Look at Xenoblade Chronicles 2.
The game was made by a whopping *40* people. And look at the difference
I hope you mean the difference between XC2 and Sw/Sh.
Credits list waaaaay more than 40 people sir in xbc2
kenrulei09 Actual developers most likely, I don’t think he’s talking about the PR team or legal team for example
The Charakteranimations are shit, at least the faces. And the Swordplay.
But I kinda like the world.
@@kenrulei09 The majority of development was by 40 people because the rest of Monolith Soft was busy helping EPD with Breath of the Wild since they already had experience with open world games.
Geoff has the dumbest takes on Twitter.
To me, the whole National Dex thing doesn't mean much since I only played Blue back in the day but I can see why people are beyond pissed about it especially since Game Freak doesnt seem to be doing shit. Pokemon is a money-printing franchise and it seems they are not taking the time to innovate or do anything with it. It's beyond lazy of them and had I been a hardcore fan I would be extremely disappointed to the point of probably not even buying it.
Geoff has the dumbest takes in general
I like his anime reviews and subbed to him bc of them but HOLY HELL does this man say the dumbest shit sometimes.
I think the worst part about not having the dex is honestly that it was just an assumed thing from the fan base. Literally every single game they have made has had pokemon from previous generations in it, with even their remakes incorporating the new pokemon, even though it would have been a fine excuse to not. It feels like a slap in the face to say they're curating the experience using whichever pokemon from past generations they feel like in addition to some new ones.
Geoff is one big shill anyway. His "Whats in an OP" Series is like the only good thing he put out. Once he starts voicing his opinions stuff goes south fast.
He is also one of the Crunchyroll apologists which makes it hard to like him.
The moment he criticized Asuna's imprisonment in Sword Art Online's Fairy Dance arc as being "sexist", I just lost my ability to take him seriously.
Don't get me wrong, there is a lot wrong with SAO. I do think putting Asuna in such a situation in the first place (much like putting Luke Skywalker in a place of despair despite being the galaxy's biggest optimist) was a questionable writing decision. But sexist? That's the hill you're going to die on, Geoff?
So yeah, that ignoramus tweet of his doesn't surprise me in the slightest.
My former best friend who I went my separate ways with years ago gave me their starter Torterra when they were losing interest in Pokemon. A Pokemon I'd fought alongside and against in numerous wireless battles was now a part of my team, along with the memories of simpler, better times that came with him. Forgive me if I'm not easily ready to give that up.
Update: Judge this comment and me however you want. I don't care anymore. I'll still play the older games I already own but I'm done with the franchise and this fanbase. Pokémon ended after Sun and Moon as far as I'm concerned.
Fortunately, the sinnoh starters are in gen8 so your torterra will almost certainly be transfereable
That reminds me of that 4chan story of the friend dying of cancer who gave his buddy his red eyes.
>Torterra
Your friend was a person of culture.
Man, it's a Torterra lol you're acting as if it was the final gift from your passing father
samasima Are you quite finished?
Ironically, even Pokemon Go is updating and improving in such a way it shows they have MUCH more dedication than Game Freak, in the last three years they've added:
- The buddy system.
- Generations 2, 3 and 4 (Now releasing 5).
- Daily quests with the special ones for Mythical Pokemon.
- Trading.
- Raids (Game Freak totally stole that idea).
- The friend and gift system.
- PvP with its own battle system (Though i wish they had used the original).
- Team Go Rocket's npc battles and Shadow Pokemon.
- The AR photo mode.
All of that in a FREE to play game...
Pokemon Go needs to bridge the gap, thats why they need to accelerate the improvement.
Not a very good comparison considering how pogo has been out for over 3 years and at launch it had none of the features you listed.
@@RubberYen ???? that is the point
on 3 years they made big features in the game be possible meanwhile in pokemon with every game it just seems like we are getting less and less
@@RaphielShiraha64 eh...I feel like at times it feels like were getting less then more and more then a lot less pretty much
see's sword and shield on E3 reveal "hey that looks pretty good, maybe I'll finally play another pokemon game since diamond and pearl"
4 months later
"pokemon fanbase on fire" well shit
Nono, E3 was when the fanbase went on fire.
Pokemon games for 20+ years: :D
Sword and shield: I suddenly have standards
you should check out the Gen 5 games, they are a ton of fun.
I'm glad to see this take tbh. As bad of an excuse they gave for it, a pokedex cut was always *bound,* to happen, but it still doesn't excuse the lying, laziness, and inefficient skills from the developers that's haunted the series for a while now. I'm not even mad, mind you, but sad. I can't blame gamefreak, knowing how crippled by the Pokemon companies treatment they are. but, as my favorite franchise, I still feel that if GF can't optimize and prioritize the franchise they have been given, it would be better for everyone if Pokemon would be given to a studio that can treat it better...
I mean, as *practically everyone* has been saying since day one (and as mentioned in the video lol); NO ONE would mind the dex cut if we actually saw some improved models, animations or performance; but we are almost reaching the launch date and it still looks like an upscaled 3ds game, with the same animations, an empty and boring overworld, and a lazy and empty as heck UI. Like duuude
@@Nachachus its even worse that we know they've been prioritizing town over Pokemon lately. Again, I feel bad for them because its mostly the Pokemon company putting most of its funding into app development and Merch, and they're only trying to diversify in order to survive, but it still sucks. From a producer stand point, I could understand this, and even respect that they have to focus on town. But as a consumer, my priority is Pokemon. No matter the excuse, this diversification is what's hurting Pokemon, and its sort of making me hope town flops just to either get them to focus, or loose Pokemon entirely. Even that would kind of suck, because I can tell the lead developers REALLY care about the franchise, but in the end, they're just showing more and more how inadequate they've been at getting this under control...
@@lavenderscare4995 As Monroe said in the vid, companies have different teams; so the existence of town isn't really doing much for or against S/Sh. Although i think that they should either let other studio develop mainline Pokemon games, or straight up stop. Because you can see they don't really care anymore, they're just being greedy at this point
@@Nachachus yes, but they've also stated they've put the more experienced on town. Mind you, even if they were giving priority to Pokemon, splitting up the already smallish development team gamefreak has is already pretty shady. They *could* hire more, or even outsource the work, but they *choose* not to. Again, they have budget restrictions set by Pokemon, but there's still many actions they could be taking there actively not doing. Add that on top of there already apparent lack of development skill in general (the example of the multiple lillie's, messing up the use of the future proof Pokemon models, etc.) This entire situation was a long time coming. Sword and shields only hope at this point is that they *really* went all out for this games story, but that's pretty doubtful...
I'm honestly inclined to believe that, if Pokemon kept going and going, a Pokedex cut was absolutely not bound to happen if they put in the effort, especially if they could fit over 800 Pokemon in a small 3DS game. A lot of people seem to forget that Pokemon continues to advance with time, just as how technology advances. Technology evolves fast too, incredibly fast to the point where the reason why some people say they don't want to get into PC gaming is because they don't want to drop hundreds of dollars to upgrade their PC every year (as ridiculous of a statement that is, it is true that technology is advancing that rapidly every year).
Pokémon: *Beggins to fall off*
Digimon, Pixelmon, Reloaded and every other fangame and old enemy of pokémon: Now it's our chance!
With Digimon Survive and the next story game, it's future is bright.
@@BlueCheeseCross95 *"Here we are in the future!"*
Bakugan 2!
I just bought Digimon Cybersleuth Complete Edition since I've always wanted to try out the games (and doesn't blindly dismiss Digimon as trash because Pokemon is more successful, other people's words not mine). So far, it's pretty fun. Looking forward to Digimon Survive and other future titles. 🤗
Ey.
I miss the ambition the Pokémon series used to show before the future-proof models stepped in.
Almost as if like, all of it was drained by the eased workload.
It's pretty painful going from Pokemon Masters to rewatching S/M pre-release footage. While the core gameplay itself is still terrible exploitative mobile game fare, pretty much every single other aspect of Masters is significantly better than anything Game Freak has released on a long time.
The trainers are expressive, every character has a distinct personality, they frequently emphasize the interactions between trainers and their pokemon, the pokemon attacks look good (pokemon actually run up to and make contact with opponents when using physical attacks), trainers always are visibly standing behind their pokemon even in 3v3 battles, the music is fantastic, and there's voice acting - something game freak has never even attempted doing.
When I played Masters, I felt like the interactions I had with other trainers in conversation (during the main story, in the little side stories, and when randomly running into them in the pokemon center) were more significant and felt more personal than anything that happens during normal gameplay in a standard pokemon game. Like they went out of their way to make trainers feel more than just an obstacle between you and your next badge.
It feels to me like there's more care and dedication to the franchise displayed in an unfinished cash-grab mobile game than in the actual console game. And that's sad.
honestly sun and moon and the ultra games had awesome characters with great expressions on them [just not for the avatar] I don't see how masters is a improvement o n almost everything but I dunno haven't seen much about it
@@jaydenc367 Gen 7 was pure garbage i wanted to play the game but Pokemon said fuck you I'll tell you where to go. Stupid they couldnt use all 8 islands of Hawai'i and the designs were lack luster, story was heavily hand holding, Lilly was what you wanted to keep as a pet, Hau is the worst rival though Hop his spiritual retard clone gives him a run for his money, Gladion was a good rival but a delectable twink, Guzma was dope needed him more in the game and People wanted to Fuck Lusamine your hot milf across the street, not to mention Professor abs who neglects his wife most of the game. Yeah cool game with bad pokemon designs half made and a neat tucked league where it was painfully easier than any league before
Pokemon has just been on this ride of "making everything easier". Pokemon was already a pretty easy rpg, however it still had it's moments and difficult battles/difficult pokemon to catch.
Every since ORAS Pokemon has just felt like a quest simulator on easy.
The game decides where you go and when you go, there's little to no exploration anymore.
No areas that give a sense of mystery like gen 1-5. Mythical Pokemon have become a joke and instead of building on the battle system they just introduce a new flashy way to attack to make it seem new.
Ever since I was finally able to buy other games aside from Pokemon I've been playing many different RPGs and games in general.
I can't justify the mediocrity of the series anymore.
The post game is the most obvious example. Gen 1 had cerulean cave with the reward of the strongest pokemon in the game. Gen 2 had a whole damn region to revisit, Mt Silver with the strongest trainer in the game at the top. Gen 3 had rayquaza, the battle frontier new ways to play the game. Gen 4 had more battle frontier, giratina's cave, an island resort and more developed mythical encounters. Gen 5 had half the region, the tower/tree, the shiny axorus, side quests, older characters back for a revenge, and the PWT.
Gen 6 had the battle maison, a small town with a friend safari, a random side quest with little to no pay off, and mewtwo hidding in a hole.
Gen 7 had a new route and a big tree and later added a shiny catching mini game. They didn't even keep red or chintya at their real strenght. And many returning characters had pratically no impact on the story besides the rainbow rocket arc which could pass as a glorified boss rush.
If you don't turn off the EXPShare (which I've been doing for playthroughs since they changed it to work on all pokemon in your party) literally any illusion of a challenge will disappear.
@@deadshot1995 I personally don't mind the xp share but they should nerf it to 25% or up the level growth of other trainers. It's better than grinding but it's too powerful as it is. When playing sun and moon I was farming for a rockruff and ended up over leveled for the rest of the play through(my starter at least). No need to say that hala, Lana, Mallow and Olivia were a breeze
@@deadshot1995 And without the Exp. share, some challenges become unfair instead of difficult.
I mean, just look at Ultra Necrozma. You must fight a level 60 speedy legendary with +1 in every single stat, in a part of the game where you'll have only a level 50-54 team normally; U-Necrozma will OHKO all your team if you doesn't have a steel type or Zoroark on your team.
Keeys sword and shield are going to be actually difficult. Right after you get your starter there is a rival battle where the rival has 2 Pokémon, while you only have one. Gyms are set to be higher level than you as well, with the first gym being 19 while you at 15, and the same with the second but with 25 and 22.
Can you and distant kingdom and shofu remake the verlifie diss track again lol
Verlis doesn't deserve that kind of attention. I just want his shitty channel to go away lol
So I should add Shofu to the liste of POkemon game haters? I wasn't aware he was doing anythign stupid like this but he's going on it, along with Aero but Aero was already ont he list.
@@poisonedyoyo what???
@@RaphielShiraha64 If shofu hasnothing to do with this stupid argument about animation mattering in a children's monster-catching game, why is he brought up in a topic offor a collab over anti-SWSH people? Especially when the subject of topic is Verlisify who has been pro-SWSH all the way.
@@poisonedyoyo what???
The dilemma? Pokemon GO and every other mobile games in market killed the morale of triple A game developers. The only difference between monster hunter and pokemon is that playing monster hunter on the phone would be near impossible.
GF made me, a hardcore fan for 15 years, decide to stop playing the franchise.
Pokemon Twitter: breaths
Monroe: baka neeee
*Smacks Pokemon S/SH out of their hands*
I dont get it
@@DJPrimeAmvs me neither
They are talking about how anything the Pokémon twitter does, someone causes conflict
"But they're giving us new forms, Gym Leaders and Evolutions! You just don't like Pokemon!"
-some brainlet, probably.
Yaaaaaaaay dynamaxing, which is loterally worse competitive wise compared to megas
@@RazorusR3X777 i mean we havent even actually used it yet so theres no actual support for that statement
"But the hat is new"
GUYS SHUT UP SWORD AND SHIELD IS GIVING US NEW WAIFUS! LOOK AT THE PORN! STOP COMPLAINING GUYS AAAA
@@RazorusR3X777 I need to see how it effects competitive play after 4 months or so.
"The bigger they are the harder they fall", or "you either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain," would also work here.
Update: Pokemon added DLC that adds 200+ cut Pokemon back this is good for some people but is also bad cause well the Pokemon that are back are behind a Paywall and another thing they said they couldn't add them back because of Limitations and because it's hard well this DLC adding 200+ Pokemon just threw that whole statement out the window it means they lied to people and the fact that it only took a couple of months to add 200+ cut Pokemon back means they legitimately lied to the fans and the fact that they're locking it behind a Paywall and that you need to buy DLC for each Sword and Shield Separately makes me even more concerned for the future of Pokemon as a whole
Slight correction: The 200+ additional aren't locked behind the dlc. The 200+ pokemon becomes accesible via an update. The dlc only contains new areas, new legendary pokemon, new characters and new post game content.
@@myfaceisstuckpleasesendhel1255 Yeah but you need that sweet 17 usd for home so a small pay wall. But honestly Pokemon and GameFreak are is turning into EA. Oh well it was good back in 2012 but X and Y onwards have been more hot garbage than Garbodor
The biggest problem facing the Pokemon franchise is the braindead fanbase. The last games that innovated were Black and White, each subsequent release has become more and more lazy. We're at the point now where the developers are openly lying to excuse their lazy development and poor programming, and they _know_ they can get away with it. Pokemon fans will eat up anything Game Freak puts out, no matter how lackluster it is. It doesn't matter how many people complain, if they keep buying the games, Game Freak has no incentive to change.
I'll give XY one thing, though, at least. It's online connectivity features were killer. Credit where it is due.
And speaking of killing, they then killed that incredible online infrastructure with Festival Plaza in gen 7...
@@laggalot1012 And I give Gen 6 another thing: Breeding is now a lot faster with the change to the destiny knot.
Other than that, The game is pretty lackluster when you finish the main story, have the 3 worst rivals of all pokemon's history (Calem/Serena is bad but not terrible), the worst evil team of all and broke how the experience share works, thereby breaking the good learning curve and solid, deep gameplay as well.
Dude, why can't you just let people have their own opinions?
@@beta511ee4 because the games are objectively getting worse. Game Freak has gotten lazy because fanboys keep buying everything they spit out. I like Pokemon, I want the series to get better, but if fans keep buying halfassed garbage, Game Freak won't change.
It's the same issue that affects Call of Duty and sports games. Fans whine about how the games get worse every year, but they still keep buying the games anyway. Complain all you want, but if you keep buying the product, the company will just laugh all the way to the bank.
@@samvimes9510 Eh, personally I disagree in some ways.
16:31 "A message from a person pretending to be developer"
I mean... Yandere Dev calls himself a game dev...
Well technically he is developing a game.
@Dimz Noms in till the sun fucking explodes but okay i guess.
He is by technical definition a game developer. Doesn't mean he's a competent one.
Heck. The people who made the Slaughtering Grounds were still game developers. They were just really shit at it.
Mister Noodle Coder
@@DimzNoms yeah if he's developing a game and people are paying him to do it, he's by definition a professional game developer (regardless of incompetence).
I wonder if the devs are slacking off because of being burnt out by cranking out gimmicky sequel after gimmicky sequel to profit off the kiddos who are easily entertained by said new gimmick.
I’m glad you were brave enough to talk about the National Dex. I’ve seen so many videos discussing the games, and they just gloss over the National Dex and focus on the “good things” as if there was nothing wrong with the games.
DistantKingdom and TheSMonroeShow DESTROY GameFreak Apologists
Oh shut up with that crap dude.
@@DJPrimeAmvs Yup, it's just stupid.
@@DJPrimeAmvs lol yall are some salty little fucks
DistantKingdom is very cherry picking.
@@MrTherandomguy42 Not to mention, he attacks other people and calls them ignorant.
Even without the national dex removal, which is a massive turn off to me, sword and shield just look so completely amateur. Frame rate issues, levels of pop in that would make Oblivion blush, inconsistent art assets, it all just looks very mediocre on top of removing a bunch of my favorite pokemon. Pair that with the series moving more towards mobile gaming and it just has me not really looking forward to new pokemon releases at this point. I've just been going back and playing a bunch of the older games, went through crystal, emerald, platinum, white, and black 2, and it all just reminded me of why I love pokemon. Sadly the new direction the series is taking just seems rather grim in terms of quality games I'll be playing for years to come.
Uh...hnm...you sound confused
What do you mean by inconsistent art assets? I want to know what is wrong, besides low-resolution textures.
@@forevermasteri4330 yeah thats what has me confused too...
@@forevermasteri4330 Did you see the N64 trees?
@@FieryMeltman Yes, the infamous tree from the Wild Area...
God Damn, this whole thing just makes me so sad. I love this series so much from past experiences, and the jump to console could have been really amazing, but nope, we get this.
The fact things went downhill more with S/V is even more sad...
Oh god I remember that "professional animator" guy.
I swear he's so full of shit, there's literally tonnes of videos on YT of people swapping the models.
The real issue when porting animations from model to model isn't even the mesh itself, it's the rig (the "skeleton" that groups polygons and allows for animating them).
If you have a similar rig then the animation will transfer fine and even if it isn't perfect you can make slight adjustments to a pre-made animation. It's cheaper than making a completely new one.
I don't know much about the way the animations are stored but I'd imagine that you could re-map bones/bone groups from one rig to the other too.
Who was the professional animator guy again?
@@nikoladelov3531 16:32 in the video
@@KoziLord ah thx a lot
I'm not sure what point that guy was trying to make, but every part was wrong.
Besides how animations work, he mentioned that you have to redo the vert weights if you add or remove a single polygon, which is also totally false.
Modern model editors can edit the mesh without messing up the rig weights for unedited portions. And even if you have to reweigh the entire model, modern model editors can copy paste the vert weights from one model to a completely different model with a very high degree of success.
You can transfer animations from any rig to another, you just need to make adjustments to work right
This is what happens when four companies own one franchise and they constantly throw one company (game freak) under the bus when it's everyone's fault. Game freak wanted to stop at gen 4 but has been forced to continue because Pokemon makes so much money in merchandise.
I think it’s 3 companies. But yeah, doesn’t GameFreak only get some money from the sale the games and nothing from plushies and toys? I might be wrong with that
imighthaveaname buticantrememberit It’s 3 companies and Game Freaks thought gen 2 would be the last. I never heard anything like that about gen 4.
@@c0mpu73rguy gen 2 was only going to be the last because they didn't know pokemon would be a worldwide phenomenon, the game was announced before blue hit the west. Then the pokemon craze took off and they willingly continued after that.
GDKsan And so they wanted to stop at 4 you say?
@@c0mpu73rguy no never said that, i never heard of that either
The sad part is, if the national dex wasn't cut they probably would've gotten away with every bit of laziness present in almost every price of promo material that they have given us.
Edit: Rephrased to be less redundant.
There absolutely would not be.
Because it’s MORE EXPENSIVE and they literally did not update the animation quality, but used that as an excuse to remove half the Pokémon beloved by their fans. Complete autism mode.
@@ShadyRapture Yeah... That's my point.
@@ShadyRapture I see your point. Iet me rephrase it.
Honestly if all of the pokemon were in it, yeah I'd buy it maybe tbh because sure it's lazy but atleast the laziness could be a bit understandable not to mention I could think "it might be terrible but I have my Feragtr with me so that's something."
Because everyone has a favorite pokemon, so that'd appeal to everyone but sword and shield offers me nothing, no favorites, story, graphics. Why buy it when I see nothing it offers me in enjoyment?
I advise everyone to look at the new animal crossing. THATS next gen
That looks just as non Innovative as the new Pokemon.
@@cortster12 Explain yourself.
@@shivers47
Just as Sword and Shield looks like an upscale 3DS game, so too does the new animal crossing.
@@cortster12 Not really tho? lol
@@cortster12 HAHAHAHA Only the most brain dead apologist could ever come with such a bullshit statement.
At least we get consistently high quality waifus
Too bad the animations in Sw/Sh are awful.
there are two concerns I have with GF here, the first, is that they have stated to have had over a 1000 people working on these games, from what I have seen so far, even with the gameplay not finalized, there is still a lot of improvements that need to be made. Now the second, GF has had little practice on home console, making one set of games, doesn't constitute as practice, it takes years for a team that isn't experienced to build on that experience especially for one game development team who don't have experience on home console.
Take Square Enix for example, many years of experience on home console and the quality of their games has gotten better? over the years, don't think most of their stories have, but that is another subject for another time. take for example Final Fantasy 9 and compare the difference to final fantasy 10, 10 is further ahead in quality, that is because Square Soft worked with the console for a lot longer and practiced for the console, rather than rush for a product as quickly as they could. GF on the other hand has rushed onto the Switch, and we are seeing that they aren't ready to release a game on home console.
Game Freak, should have started their move towards home console years ago, now we are seeing their inability to adapt to a more powerful system, I can only hope that as time goes on GF adapts, even if it takes a number of years for them to do, it should all start with DP remakes.
But GF aren't entirely at fault here, there are two other contributors to the issue, the first is the Anime, the anime team are the ones that enforce an unrealistic deadline on the Gamefreak, to release a new generation every three years to coincide with a new series and the second is the merchandise teams, basically for the exact same reason as the anime teams. This unfortunately hurts the quality of the games, even if a team of a 1000 people are present, it is a brewing perfect storm on the way.
So basically, the Anime teams need to stop pressing for new generations every 3 years. GF need to have more practice on home console and the merchandising teams, also need to stop pushing GF into rushing out new generations. as one game developer once said "a rushed game is always bad, a delayed game is eventually good", but the issue is, because of the other two factors, GF cannot afford a delay, so they are pushed into a corner, but that is a corner also of their own design.
1000 people does not mean they are working on the actual game itself, it could be the translations, the art, anything really. Only about 200 are actually working on the game itself, this was a little misleading but I really don't blame you for not knowing that. If there were 1000 people we wouldn't be getting only this right now. Either way they are working hard, there is a lot of care even if it doesn't seem like there is, I'll only truly decide of this game had work put into it when I finish the game.
Sure, Game Freak should have started their move towards Home Consoles years ago. Except, thats not up to Gamefreak, its up to the Pokemon Company and Nintendo (Nintendo wanted Pokemon on the Handhelds too sell those with alongside the home consoles).
@@nickdentoom1173 Not even to mention, they have 4 titles on the Switch Right now this day. 2 of those titles taking up resources from Pokemon Sword and Shield to create.
Pokémon Quest Nintendo Switch May 29, 2018
Pokémon Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee! Nintendo Switch November 16, 2018
**Giga Wrecker Alt. Nintendo Switch April 12, 2019
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**Little Town Hero Nintendo Switch October 16, 2019**
Improved Animations Wishlist:
- Different hurt animations for not very effective, effective, and super effective attacks
- Turn around animations
- Attack animations are more than just a hop in some cases and make sense for the attack
- Special attack animations make sense (Max Flare leaves Charizard’s mouth)
- Backround battle animations (Trees’ leaves move)
- Sleep animations instead if just eyes closed
- Proper swimming animations in wild area for Pokemon (Gyrados)
If all these were added I’d be fine with the Dex Cut.
It's nice to know that there is a whole comments section here that actually has the same feelings as me about this game. Whenever I try to talk about it on Twitter, I just get attacked by blind apologists who think im just hating on the game.
The funny thing is, in the unlikely case that a future pokemon game is a evolutionary step for the series botw style, all of the apologists will completely flip the script and shit all over SW/Sh acting like they criticized them from the start
12:55 I really appreciate this point. I hate how Pokemon to certain fans is this sacred franchise that is never allowed to be criticised but other franchises are it's really annoying.
Wow, it's painful going from Sword/Shield footage to HGSS. The latter looks so much more interesting and fun. It doesn't matter though, people are going to buy it and eat it up.
Could you please not be condescending?
@@beta511ee4 I'm sorry that differing opinions and points of view are interrupting your boot licking experience
Doge Wow How am I a boot-licker?
Plus I honestly think HGSS is kinda overrated.
@@beta511ee4 There's literally nothing condescending about what they said. By dismissing even opinions that contrast one that might be your own or be negative towards something you like, in all reality, *you* are the one being condescending. You are dismissing someone else's point of view as lesser or "condescending" because it doesn't fit with what you personally believe.
Doge Wow Technically he is being dismissive of people buying the game because it’s not what he wants out of it.
You know what angered me the most? When Masuda stated a long time ago that breeding is not what he had hoped pokemon would be all about.......THEN WHY DID YOU PUT IT IN THE GAME?!
@Jacob Ivancic im not going to call you a dummy, but i am gonna state you just contradicted your self in your own sentence. yes correct they did put it in because "why not." now do you know why i even posted my statement? for the exact reason you said in your next sentence! i did not want to breed and waste time trust me. but i developed a bond with the perfect breeded pokemon that i worked hard for. meanwhile, hackers and genners cheat their pokemon in which made my time totally useless. that is called a bad game design buddy. no need to attack a random person just for stating an opinion. 8)
@Jacob Ivancic no problem. i suck at writing sorey as well. lol
I know a lot of people loathed X and Y and I can see why. Excluding my DS games, they're my most played games on my systems. After playing, however, Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon (never played Sun and Moon - the demo/trailer never sold me on the games), I am leery about the franchise. X and Y had its issues, yes, but after playing USUM, I could see the laziness. I was so irritated by the consistent mention of Kanto this, Kanto that and the new Kanto forms (I love some of them, but come on here). I screamed at one point during gameplay "be your own game! Stop relying on Kanto!" Graphic issues, crashing/glitching near the Battle Tree (I'm playing on a new 3DS XL/2DS XL and I am still struggling in parts due to lag). I haven't touched the games in months. My attitude is, if they don't care, why should I?
I'm extremely passionate about pokemon, and it's because if my passion that I'm pretty vocal about my dissatisfaction with the more recent games. To be fair I actually really liked XY And SM but Ultra and LG are really what started to kill this series, one that's been an integral part of my life, and its given me some sort of depression in a way. I was even willing to write off a little bit but then I saw these games have a $60 price tag unlike the 3ds game which were $40.
least ultra added and was cheaper...let's go? nope the opposite I really like the ultra games honestly some of the best in the series [not as good as bw2 but compared to gen 4 debateable]
I had such high hopes for Sword and Shield too. I truly believed we were finally going to get that innovated and expansive Pokemon game for console I'd been dreaming about since I was a kid. Looks like I'll just have to keep dreaming.
Am I the only person that had extremely low expectations for these games in the first place?
Harmon Forbes Probably not, but I wish I were one of those people.
Harmon Forbes probably. Pokémon really hyped this game up, saying that it would be made with their core audience in mind this time, and it’s releasing on the switch which is just a plus in general. On top of that, it seemed like all the other big game names were taking this chance to branch out and innovate, with games like Mario Odyssey and Breath of the Wild. There were just so many reasons to think these games would be good.
I never once saw Gamefreak attempt to be boundary breaking throughout my whole life. I don't think they've ever made a home console game before either. With seemingly no experience with home consoles I honestly wasn't expecting much from them.
Harmon Forbes I think it was because they never made a home console game before that people were expecting it to be boundary breaking. Some people think that the formula would need some sort of change to work better on a console, since portable games don’t always work as well on consoles. Plus, while we’ve never had a mainline Pokémon game on consoles, we have had other Pokémon games on consoles, like Pokémon Colosseum, so they did have some standard to meet.
honestly, the ppl who barely play the game and dont understand how it works saying "oh this is going to be better with a hand picked amount of pokemon, it wil make for a better experience" or " ah bringing your old pokemon is just a fun novelty, the core of the game should be in the new region and new pokemon to flesh out the region as a different place" make me so damn mad, dont they understand that you get the national dex after finishing the game, every game always had a handpicked amount of pokemon to tailor the experience now they are just deleting a part of the game itself for no reason
B/W Duology is fire. Loved every minute of those games.
Town's offical name is "Little Town Hero" fyi
I'm hyped af for Sword and Shield and I know I'm going to enjoy it because I lean more to enjoying minigames like the cooking and camp. But I wouldn't mind seeing a different company work on a main title?? I feel like it will overall refresh the experience if the right company works on em. Pokemon main rpg needs a company that will work on it with passion and not lose motivation just because a mobile game is doing good.
Did u like it
How'd you find the game? When did you last touch it?
@@blackdot105 the camp and cooking didnt work as i expected them to so... its good for shiny hunting with my brother i guess? If the online functioned properly i would've probably enjoyed it, but it didnt, so i wasnt really able to enjoy the game for what I got it, most of it was mediocre, a lot of things were unreasonably choppy, etc. I just use it to shiny hunt now. The region & characters were interesting, i like them, and a nice chunk of the dex, but the game itself was definitely a let down. Also i broke a joycon trying to collect all alcremies 😀
@@justtamu Huh, interesting... also, rip joycon
Nintendo should take a crack at making the next mainline entry themselves.
Or give the development to intelligent systems or genius sonority
@@TSPH1992 monolith soft as well
Funny you used the Sonic Forces ending song for the conclusion.
A.k.a Sonic "it's just a demo, the full game will be good" Forces
heh true.
Still think that game is overhated.
*_"It's just a demo, the full game will be good!"_*
_game journalists after the anthem __-beta-__ alpha_
@@beta511ee4 Yeah it's actually a pretty decent game. The advertising pretty much destroyed the games reputation by just being blatantly dishonest about what we were getting(Like Chaos and Shadow actually playing a role in the story). Super Sonic being on disc DLC that was eventually made free didn't make people optimistic either. I loathed the game when it came out, but I played it again recently and even got the plat on it and actually realized that it wasn't even a bad game. It really needed more time in the oven though because the levels are so short.
@@broom2839 really did.
Gamefreak was shielded from the big HD panic Japanese studios dealt with at the dawn of the HD era by virtue of only having to develop for handheld, and never learned how to actually, you know, develop HD games. For over a decade.
Exactly a lot of studios went under when the shift happened if the Pokémon company didn’t shield gamefreak from Nintendo they would’ve went under too. It’s funny people blame Nintendo like they apart of this when Nintendo been trying to get gamefreak to develop on consoles for years but they hid behind the excuse that Pokémon was meant to be “in your pocket”. It’s been a long time coming they need an overhaul or the Pokémon company needs to let a studio from Nintendo design the video games from here on out.
I said I'd reserve judgment on the final product until I see if they patch in obvious things like the Nat Dex and maybe Megas, but it's becoming increasingly concerning that this likely will not happen.
You said it, others have said it, and it seems extremely clear at this point: Pokemon GO killed the franchise. In much the same way we see mobile gaming as a whole killing games, or at least severely reducing the quality that we receive (because why make an expensive product when you can put 10% of the effort into a mobile cash grab and make 1,000% of the profits?). Look, I've played Pokemon since its inception. I remember fondly sitting in my orange chair in front of a lamp to play Blue version after school in the evening at 6 and 7 years old. I still have Pokemon cards in a binder from around the same time period that is likely worth hundreds of dollars but I won't part with it. I played every generation, loving them all but even more recently loving and putting 400+ hours into Moon. S&M was an amazing product, in my opinion. Lots hated on its story focused, hand holdy nature, but I loved it. Gen 7 might be one of my favorites ever. I didn't play ORAS, nor USUM, but they looked fine. Yet, how is it that SWSH is looking so disappointing despite having more potential than any product before it? It's simple. There's zero reason to.
The lies were just to sate the people, and it seems like from the news articles we got, that it worked. People aren't really still talking about this and we are a month away from release. The fact is, even if nobody bought SWSH (which simply won't happen), our boycott doesn't matter. The Pokemon Company will continue to make countries-worth of fortunes every month from Go and merchandise. They are set; they are secure. If anything, Gamefreak is expendable. You can tell the wind in their sails when it comes to Pokemon is all but completely gone. Town makes SWSH look like it was from two generations ago, made by a fledgling indie dev (though that's a bit uncharitable, as nowadays indie devs make the best products bar-none). It's clear that's where their passion lies right now, and why not? They gain nothing from appealing to a market that is already going to flock to the game like a hungry koi-fish pond. Town is a project that allows them to do something new and their crew probably wants that. I don't know what is happening behind the scenes, but something isn't right. Shit just doesn't add up, and I'm eager to see the games broken about to see what is inside and why this all happened. Maybe we'll get a small clue at least.
It's just sad. I love Pokemon. I remember the first trailer for SWSH and I mae a joke that I can't wait to see PIMPNITE fight a dynamaxed mega Rayquaza and win with a level 1 magikarp. Only to find out shortly after that not only will there be no megas, but we will be lucky to get magikarp and rayquaza. Somehow they kill my uber hype for the game within the same day, because of poor decisions regarding it. At the end of the day, there is no forseeable excuse as to why we are getting this shoddy product. The model argument fell flat, the effort arguments fell flat...I just have to wonder, why put all the effort to future proof the games if this was the endgame? I can only think that something truly awful happened behind closed doors at their offices, and they are forced to do this. It's suspicious. Suspicious like taking out a 500k life insurance plan on your husband before he mysteriously ends up in the dumpster behind your apartment. Maybe we'll never know why all of this insanity came to pass, but until changes are made, I cannot support this game. This will be the first mainline Pokemon title that I do not buy and invest time into. Maybe a patch will change it. I sincerely doubt it.
Gamefreak already said they ain't gonna patch.
I think Masuda saying people should have low expectations is prerty telling, and I don't think anything will change as long as he's in charge.
Your comment is gold. You deserve a medal 🏅
Well dang. Now I'm sad. Your video really showed me that we've been given a subpar product for way too long. I was always blinded by my pure love of the series, but you're totally right. The roselia-tinted glasses are off now, i suppose.
God damn that thumbnail is cute
Thank you for explaining so perfectly why this is an issue. I am a huge Pokemon fan and always have been. I'm confident I would enjoy Sword and Shield despite my heavy criticism of them. But that doesn't mean I can't or shouldn't have that criticism. They're cutting a lot of features using the excuse it's for improvements that we just don't see, which is what a lot of the "stop hating!" people seem to ignore as the point. It's not simply that people are pissy about some missing features, it's that there's no trade-off. And that realization is what causes the snowball effect of people starting to criticize graphics (the infamous tree) and other things that they may not have minded before. People know when they're getting screwed, and they're not obligated to like it just because Pokemon is near and dear to them.
In less serious feedback, nice digs at Verlisify, LOL. I hope you're ready for his attack squad to tell you logic is bad and you're toxic. Also cute kitty cat.
Apparently, IGN gave SWSH a score of 9.3. Considering what we saw in copies that were sold early, that score seems really inaccurate.
IGN also gave ORAS a 7.8 for having "too much water", I never trust their reviews
IGN was always a joke.
The real scare here is the future of video games in general. Particularly all companies who have seen success in mobile titles.
Why put millions of dollars into developing a console title when you could put maybe half a million into a mobile game that profits 10 times the budget. That’s my fear overall
Just one more reason why phones are a plague... I realize it sounds like something someone out of touch and resistant to the future would say but it is concerning. This movement towards having tiny computers that do everything in our pockets is having serious side effects in the way we communicate alone. If we consider what other aspects of our existence it affects, things get complicated.
Me and my siblings wouldn't really think about Pokemon's lack in consistent quality until somewhere in gen 7, when the Pokemon animations play the same as back in Gen 6, the Kanto pandering becomes very obvious, the post game being rather lacking, animations are still stiff or the game lags at times when something simple is happening, etc. With all of those problems appearing in swsh (uncertain of post game as of now), we kinda lost interest in those games and will just focus on other games with more genuine care to them. Especially when playing games like Xenoblade, Undertale, Persona, Bravely Default, Digimon, Yo Kai Watch, etc... Pokemon has just seem so inferior to those other RPGs that has a unique turn in RPGs formula or building upon the contents of the game. Pokemon that cool ideas, but they're gone in the next game for other ideas that would meet the same fate, battle systems that are pretty much the same, ignoring the fans constantly, and are doing the same thing as last time just to be safe. But then again, if it's broken, but it makes millions of moola, why fix it?
kanto pandering I kinda get in gen 7 20th anniversary and all honestly USUM's post game isn't that bad
Masuda needs to go, plain and simple. Get him out, and give Morimoto the lead role.
Nah, it's someone above their heads that's calling the shots. Look at Pokemon Masters and it starts to show that TPC is responsible for this nonsense. I'm willing to bet that they told the team 'get a pokemon game out by the end of 2019, it's already been two years since the switch was released' and this was the result.
@@Ballade90 Well tbf at least Masters didn't lie. It did everything it promised and even improved on a lot of problems the models and animations had to fit them on weaker phones; meanwhile GF's still doing upscaled, empty and uninspired 3ds games
@@Nachachus Masters also has no content to really speak of. You don't even get any decent rewards from the challenges they present so besides getting a checkmark next to the course name there's just nothing to do except go through the story mode, which isn't even that interesting.
He's not even the director on this one lol.
@maltese 84 he couldn't handle the pressure of the success. He still supervise the games but he's more in the shadow
And then they just release new information, and guess what? Kanto pandering is back with nearly all the Gigantimax pokemon being nearly all from Kanto.
Ok, I know everyone got the same lucario from korina in X and Y. But that lucario has been with me the longest. I feel like I formed a special bond with him.
Pokemon needs to change. They have been relying on quantity for far too long. "Catch em' all" was always a marketing strategy and not a gameplay feature. Megaman Battle Network achieved in 5 years what Pokemon could not in the entirety of it's run: the perfection of it's own systems, through multiple iterations.
Next Pokemon I would barely add any new Pokemon, that would only keep things stale and it's combat would remain one of the most non-dynamic RPG combats in memory. It needs new gameplay features not done before, and make it's combat far more interesting.
They cannot make the combat any different without changing the stat distributions, which is never gonna happen at this point, since it affects too much.
@@nickdentoom1173 What they should do instead is utilize their current battle system more. There's so much stuff under the hood that your average player will never see unless they seek it out because the game never tells or shows you it.
It won't change as long as people are still buying it. And people will keep buying it becouse it's pokemon
It kind of is. But I am not a a huge fan of Pokemon.
Pokemon is genuis. Collect monsters to fight monsters that range in cute designs to badass designs. Wonderful concept. I can see why people love it.
But for me, I need a game with a good story and decent challenge at minimum. And Pokemon doesn't offer me that. I tried getting into the series, but I just can't. :(
Well you don't really have to follow the main games, Fan games and rom hacks exists and they can cause the game to be more challenging and there are always challenges like Nuzlockes to make the game more challenging.
God I just realized how pathetic it is that fan's had to go out of their way to make different games and new challenges just to get a sense of difficulty in pokemon...
@@patrickstar8132 Yes, but that is the only way that gamefreak give us. Shame on them from taking attention from the main games
Patrick Star Yeah, it’s sort of like how Sonic the Hedgehog games have been. We can only hope that Pokémon will eventually get its equivalent to Sonic Mania.
I just want a challenge, I dont want to have to sit thru another sun and moon
Gen 5 is the most balanced between good story and challenge (only that gen; the others are lacking either with difficulty, story or both nowadays); be careful with the Emolgas tough, but in the desert you can find a move who can check that flying rats.
17:52 Yes, thank you for mentioning that. It doesn't get said enough. With that said, I think there is fault in us, the consumer. The last title that had passion and a lot of thought and time put in to it (a love letter to the fans, as you put it) were the black and white games. These games were not well received. They're among the least selling main game tittles in current times and the argument could be made for all of Pokémon's existing history. One of the most recurring criticisms from detractors of the Black and White titles is that they were bothered by the fact that you can't get pokémon from older titles until post game (which wasn't true for the sequels but the sequels barely sold half of what the first games sold). People don't like change but that's just half of the problem. To this day, the release of Red and Blue titles have been the most successful/best-selling games of the franchise. Once Pokémon Go was released it became pretty evident for the company that nostalgia sells better than effort. And as a corporation, they'll do what corporations do and follow the money. The consumers have spoken and as harsh as it sounds, we have shown we don't care for quality or effort. Sure, on a personal level, long time fans crave quality and effort from the company but I think at this point, passerby fans out weigh the demands of long term fans. Personally, I think our voice is being drowned out by a majority that will take the bare minimum and be satisfied with it.
Hate to break it to you but Black White and the sequels sold incredibly well, dont know where you got your false information. With Heartgold and Soulsilver selling record numbers and to this day since 2012. Sword and shield have sold 17 million copies for a lack luster 3ds game in animation story pokemon and characters yet sheep have stated the game is the best when its the worst thing since Gen 7. All together Gen 6~8 have been garbage Gamefreak and Pokemon have made. No good game from the franchise since 2012 and there's no arguing that period. Till pokemon and Gamefreak get their act together they will be on path to becoming EA #2
@@goldensunadept5091 If you see the selling numbers of each individual main game release, though for a regular game they sold well (all pokemon games sell well), black and white have lower selling numbers. 15.64 million for the first 7.63 million for the sequel. Where as X&Y sold 16.45 m, sun & moon 16.18 m and as you said Sword & Shield sold 17.37 m. (Every main game release preformed better than gen 5: gen 1 sold 31.7 m, gen 2 sold 23.1 m, gen 3 sold 16.22 m and gen 4 sold 17.67 m) Now, we could also have the discussion about how people are turning around and realizing that gen 5 is better than remembered. I've seen opinions shift to a more positive perspective on gen 5 in recent years. Other than that, I don't get why you're refuting my point, we basically agree with each other.
P.S. HeartGold and SoulSilver sold 12.72 million copies. I adore those games but I wouldn't say they were record numbers when OmegaRuby & AlphaSapphire (a lack luster remake, other than the pretty graphics and minor new gimmicks, if you ask me) sold 14.27 million copies.
For me i hate that i lose a ton of the competitive sets i made. No Mega Evolution or Z-Moves means i lose a lot of sets. Plus not all of them will be allowed to move up anyway. Pokemon Bank was a payed app to move up Pokemon so this game just had to go and hard cap the time and work and money that has been used on team building. I finally started team building a few years ago. Gen 6 was the first time i did. Knowing i now have all these sets that can't go to gen 8 hurts. Plus all that Pokemon Bank money. The limited Pokemon and lack of Mega Evolution and Z-Moves just hits me really hard because all this work i did is now more or less all pointless. I know not everyone builds competitive sets but just knowing a lot of the sets i made will not be able to go to gen 8 is really getting to me. Plus with no Mega Evolution or Z-Moves a lot of sets just don't work even if they could move. Lopunny is so much better as a Mega so that just made it way worse if it happened to be picked as a Pokemon. This is all a mess that made the hours i put into team building a message waste.
The problem with people saying “it’s not finished” when referring to the trailers is:
When the games release and they are *exactly* we have been telling them this whole time, their entire argument falls flat.
I want to know what their half-assed excuses are gonna be at that point.
Or worse yet, they may suddenly turn heel and say they have always been on our side.
Fucking pisses me off. Backpedaling trash...
And now any new trailer we get can't be defended by that stupid excuse because I highly, highly doubt that GF will make a huge change from a trailer to the official release within only a month.
Once the games are released the new excuse will be: "But the first games of a generation were always lackluster, wait for the special versions!"
And once they will be released and are still subpar, they will say: "Special versions have never changed that much!"
The excuses will never end.
Jacob Ivancic
And neither are you.
Jacob Ivancic
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and I will defend that to my grave.
HOWEVER opinions *can,* in fact, be *wrong.* (Like people choosing to believe the Earth is flat.)
This, however, is a FACT.
Your neutral stance *doesn’t* help *anyone.*
It’s like voting, you can opt out, but you aren’t going to change anything by doing nothing.
I’ve heard let’s go has the base data for Johto to Alola in the sense that all the data is there including egg moves. So I wouldn’t be surprised if all the data is in SwSh and I also wouldn’t be surprised if unfinished 3DS models and textures are there along with the walking running animations. Wouldn’t be surprised in the least.
I remenber when Pokemon started dying for me... It was may 2018 before the let's go announcement I was playing Pokemon ultra moon and just had defeated guzma and all of sudden... I just noticed how much they didn't really change.. I bought digimon cyber sleuth in April and already finished and had just bought digimon hackers memory and started playing that game more even though it was the same world, the same graphics and they had add add about 100 digimon but the story was so different that had me into it and them I bought smt 4 on the 3ds and eventually finished it was already September and still hadn't touched ultra moon... Then I boughy smt apocalypse... Pokemon end up getting behind and I still haven't gone pass where I left... When they announced S/SH I was excited because it was the first game in the console since the Wii coliseum game but this time around it was a proper rpg... But after seeing some of the gameplay and the evil team... I'm way less excited... i'm even thinking about buying digimon again on the switch this time around instead of Pokemon next month
Ken Sugimori and the art team is the only reason i havent fully dropped this franchise.
*that moment when you hear Digimon world next order's ost in a Pokémon video*
😏
one idea i wanted to see from pokemon was to see hand drawn sprites animated in a similar fashion to B&W. that way we could feel like were playing the pokemon anime, the closest we got was B&W as the art for the trainer was hand drawn rather than pixel art.
I honestly think tgats a good idea, but I don't know how expensive it would be to animate all of the Pokemon, trainers, towns, etc.
@@someguy3263 trainers would be fine as they could use a similer cookie cutter style like how they did with the sprites. as for towns, again it would only take one painted picture to make it.
pokemon are the only problem, as it would cost a lot and take a lot of time to animate all of the Pokemon and their moves, but this could slightly me mitigated if they use a similar technique that they use in black and whight where the pokemon were split up into parts (arms legs bodies etc) and just over lay them, i dont know exactly, look up the animations its really cool.
all in all though yeah it would be expensive, but like in the video, they do have a large budget. and im sure they could contract employees from nintendo themselves
I think pretty much everybody would rather have the full roster instead of the Dynamax gimmick. Sure Gigantamax is something fairly unique, but the gimmicks in each generation suck.
Just figured id thow in my two cents: i think a lot of people are not against the games criticism but rather just tired of hearing the same things. I got a bit tired of it as well, and I've already decided im not going to buy the game. Otherwise, this was a fantastic video. Hard agree with everything you said.
The more the show of Sword and Shield the less I’m interested. I’d like to see a remaster of Gold and Silver, like they did with Ruby and Sapphire.
you mean like.. the legendarily amazing heartgold/soulsilver?
XcaptainXobliviousX Well, yea but 3D.
No like a 3d Fire Red and Leaf Green the gen 3 remakes cut content
Gen 4 remakes when
It would just be a remake in the style of Let's Go at this point honestly.