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  • čas přidán 1. 07. 2021
  • Next to face the fiery Dragons is Vivian Blick, managing director of Tango Group Ltd. He's here today to offer 5% equity in return for a £200,000 cash investment in his range of alternative energy products, but what does his patent really look like?
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  • @leeporter4199
    @leeporter4199 Před 3 lety +977

    Has anyone noticed Richard Farleigh looks like Prince Charming from Shrek 😂

  • @TechGamesAU
    @TechGamesAU Před 3 lety +1061

    They're not powered by water, they're *activated* by water, in other words there's a chemical already in there which reacts when water is added and produces an electric output. This isn't a green technology - it's just a battery with some water in it. Normal rechargeable batteries are more green than this because at least they avoid the landfill for longer.

    • @PhilosophyofElivagar
      @PhilosophyofElivagar Před 3 lety +62

      Very important information, thanks for clarifying!

    • @lukeellis758
      @lukeellis758 Před 3 lety +8

      It's a great stepping stone though! Could be the start of something bigger give it 5 to 10 years of development and boom it could be something great

    • @lukeellis758
      @lukeellis758 Před 3 lety +4

      @Bitterman I know this bro bit that's just right now I always say you cant invent television until you've invented electricity this could just the start we have to start somewhere after all I personally think solar energy should be utilized more often

    • @engineclinic
      @engineclinic Před 3 lety +96

      @@lukeellis758 you're not understanding. This is not the future. This is a farce. Richard was correct. Current battery technology has way surpassed this.

    • @travisscavoni369
      @travisscavoni369 Před 3 lety +21

      @Bitterman So this is basically the same thing as older car batteries or riding mower batteries where you had to occasionally top them off with water?

  • @Formula_Fox
    @Formula_Fox Před 3 lety +873

    The water isn't suitable for fish to swim in, so for that reason I'm trout

  • @dsmyify
    @dsmyify Před 3 lety +297

    Richard Farley is usually quite a pragmatic and calm person. For him to get wound up like that, plus the nervous disposition of the pitch, says a lot.

    • @lukegale7812
      @lukegale7812 Před 2 lety +2

      Yeah, i read your comment and watched it again. He seems to have some ticks too.

    • @stevengu1253
      @stevengu1253 Před 2 lety +49

      He's like this because he knows about the market more than any other Dragon does and knows exactly what the person is trying to do.

    • @alwoo5645
      @alwoo5645 Před 2 lety +21

      Yeah correct its a con guys full of it

  • @diggintheblueswithaparrot1329

    He could use them to power a great invention I once saw called a “flow signal”

  • @Vicius2004
    @Vicius2004 Před 2 lety +112

    The most fascinating part about this whole thing to me was learning that there are men called Vivian.

    • @CPS2
      @CPS2 Před 2 lety +5

      Glad I wasn't the only one that noticed that.

    • @sususketches
      @sususketches Před rokem +4

      Right? But that's not bad or anything, just uncommon.

    • @seymourskinner2533
      @seymourskinner2533 Před 8 měsíci +8

      Never watched the young ones then?

    • @cologne2792
      @cologne2792 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@seymourskinner2533 I was just thinking that :)

    • @HMJ66
      @HMJ66 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@seymourskinner2533YES, WE'VE GOT A VIDEO!

  • @gamewithadam7235
    @gamewithadam7235 Před 3 lety +639

    The water for the water powered batteries comes from the sweat on his face.

    • @Jamie-2004
      @Jamie-2004 Před 3 lety +11

      I can see you took this from the pyramid scheme business... but lol, you’re right

    • @Jimverse_
      @Jimverse_ Před 3 lety +8

      I knew I was gonna see this comment lol

    • @jennyradcliffe5570
      @jennyradcliffe5570 Před 3 lety +3

      Hahahaha

    • @anubusx
      @anubusx Před 3 lety +3

      He was sweating as much as Barry was.

    • @cun7us
      @cun7us Před 3 lety +3

      You beat me to it 😆

  • @icystrangers5482
    @icystrangers5482 Před 3 lety +611

    It's not "water powered". It is "water activated" and the water obviously dissolves some substance in the battery to make an electrolyte. That substance gets used up and ends up in the water which is poured down the sink. Not environmentally friendly, at all.

    • @B_Bodziak
      @B_Bodziak Před 3 lety +13

      Any more or less than batteries in landfills?

    • @sbaxter4207
      @sbaxter4207 Před 3 lety +29

      @@B_Bodziak take into consideration the low power output "trickle" into the equation. It may be that it takes 10 water batteries to deliver the same energy of one high quality AA? I did not hear any info in the video regards amps, only 1.5v. but still a very interesting product and he should be praised, not kicked down, especially by Richard who is normally very nice.

    • @chrisg8321
      @chrisg8321 Před 3 lety +1

      Not necessarily.

    • @jazzytimes2373
      @jazzytimes2373 Před 3 lety +1

      acid

    • @icystrangers5482
      @icystrangers5482 Před 3 lety +15

      @@B_Bodziak In a landfill is better than in the oceans.

  • @matthewbell4273
    @matthewbell4273 Před 2 lety +302

    That was verbal battery by the dragons. He just couldn’t cell it to them.

  • @pramitnag1790
    @pramitnag1790 Před 3 lety +174

    Richard: I know that you know that you are trying to pull wool over our eyes
    Peter: I don't find it devious, I think it's just overvalued
    Duncan: I don't care 😂

    • @stevengu1253
      @stevengu1253 Před 2 lety +4

      I don't think Peter would invest in this company even if it's $200k pounds for 100%. This dude's got practically nothing in that company worth anything other than that 5 year license.

    • @tobymacdonald5893
      @tobymacdonald5893 Před rokem +2

      @@stevengu1253 fr even then after the 5 years are up the business could literally crumble into nothing if they don’t renew the license

  • @GadgetAddict
    @GadgetAddict Před 3 lety +644

    It seems like every 5 or 10 years someone "invents" the water battery.
    The same thing being used since ancient Egyptian times, with some tweaks over the years.

    • @BayronAnimeOverlorD
      @BayronAnimeOverlorD Před 3 lety +51

      I can't believe none of the dragons called out this scam technology.

    • @watchtellyinuk
      @watchtellyinuk Před 3 lety +1

      @@nouton7432 I hope English is not your 1st language?

    • @BayronAnimeOverlorD
      @BayronAnimeOverlorD Před 3 lety +53

      @UC-XbUU3TXvmKUyTbudrlghg Like people already pointed out in the comments, there are batteries out there (that have existed for years now) that use water (like this one) as a source to make the actual material that holds the energy to react (the water is not the fuel itself, fuel is the thing that holds the potential energy, so this is not), once that material exhaust its energy no matter how much water you pour into it, you won't get any more energy, so you can practically exchange any other liquid that contains hydrogen and oxygen, and bingo, you can make you material to react, and like you also point out, these batteries are not only expensive, they are also inefficient, and no eco-friendly, no amount of "development" or years will change that chemical reaction, that's why people selling this as "the future" are selling a scam.
      This is equivalent of the machine that draws potable water out of thin air, the concept has been tried a thousand times, but you'll never make it work out, there is just so much water in the air, even in the most moist place ever, it will take you an eternity to make just a glass of water, so it will become the most expensive glass of water ever, so no matter how much "technology" you throw at that idea, you can't make something out of thin air, and people still claim is the future, and as many think they are discovering the wheel, while the idea, the concept, and the technology has been already fully developed years ago.
      So people buy into these scams cause at first glance they work, they do what they promise, but not exactly as they claim, and it is known that the idea is a dead end, no improvement can be done to them, that's why no major company actually uses them, not because oil companies have unknown conspiracies going on.

    • @notgoingout2234
      @notgoingout2234 Před 3 lety +1

      So why aren’t we using them then?

    • @GadgetAddict
      @GadgetAddict Před 3 lety +51

      @@notgoingout2234 because they're typically only suited for very low power applications and while some people think it's the water that's generating electricity, the water only acts as an electrolyte for a consumable metal inside.
      So it's not some magical battery that turns water into power.

  • @GodotOfficial
    @GodotOfficial Před 3 lety +357

    This must be Dragon’s Den in an alternate dimension because Peter is the good cop and Richard is the bad cop in this pitch

    • @darkwaterstag7068
      @darkwaterstag7068 Před 3 lety +25

      Peter prob just wants to set up against whatever richard says since that dinner party thimg with his wife

    • @alannagrant1883
      @alannagrant1883 Před 2 lety +1

      Richard is a Jenny

    • @leopardgeckocrazy
      @leopardgeckocrazy Před 2 lety +26

      Honestly, Peter will just go for whatever angle is the opposite of Richard's.

    • @sachinfulsunge9977
      @sachinfulsunge9977 Před 2 lety +14

      @@leopardgeckocrazy Richards better than Peter doe

    • @leopardgeckocrazy
      @leopardgeckocrazy Před 2 lety +5

      @@sachinfulsunge9977 completely agree

  • @khandadonb111
    @khandadonb111 Před 3 lety +266

    Even when he's insulted and annoyed, Richard is calm af.

    • @LuisLopez-om8zr
      @LuisLopez-om8zr Před 3 lety +39

      He’s always cool, calm and collected. I wish he was in more episodes.

    • @khandadonb111
      @khandadonb111 Před 3 lety +52

      Such an underrated dragon, a shame they replaced him.

    • @annajones9701
      @annajones9701 Před 3 lety +26

      He was smartest dragon

    • @Chrisxsmith3
      @Chrisxsmith3 Před 3 lety +16

      Just had an understanding of professionalism

    • @alannagrant1883
      @alannagrant1883 Před 2 lety +2

      Richard was replaced because he rarely invests and is actually boring and a bully

  • @tomm0016
    @tomm0016 Před 3 lety +462

    Entrepreneur: “hi this is my product”
    Peter: 🙂
    Entrepreneur: “it’s worth 3million”
    Peter: 🙄

    • @JonasHamill
      @JonasHamill Před 3 lety +86

      Entrepreneur: “first year turnover £750k”
      Peter: 😯
      Entrepreneur: “with a net loss of”
      Peter: 😑

    • @Albimar17
      @Albimar17 Před 2 lety +30

      Entrepreneur: I've got this company currently turning over 10k a year...
      Peter: *meh*
      Entrepreneur: I've also got another company that turned over 3 million pounds last year!
      Peter: Tell me ALL about your other company, and your house, and your wife, and your dog, and your postman!

    • @netweed09
      @netweed09 Před 2 lety +3

      Lol, that's too nice. It's more like: 👺
      Actually, that's more Duncan. But Peter is like that on the inside, but the result's the same.

    • @rachelm5888
      @rachelm5888 Před rokem +2

      this thread is exactly how i wanted to start my new year

    • @sususketches
      @sususketches Před rokem +2

      Entrepreneur: "we do not own the patent, but..."
      Peter: 😂

  • @habichiblah7534
    @habichiblah7534 Před 2 lety +68

    Gives me confidence for my 'battery-powered water' pitch next month.

    • @netweed09
      @netweed09 Před 2 lety +13

      Just tell em you managed to tame an electric eel and enclose it to put in a car =)

  • @chriskrontiris8558
    @chriskrontiris8558 Před 3 lety +94

    NARRATOR: Theo Pefitus has been looking increasingly concerned
    Theo: So, I'm increasingly concerned...

  • @ChrJahnsen
    @ChrJahnsen Před 2 lety +232

    Richard Farleigh is usually such a gentleman and very respectful of the presenters. The reason he wasn't here was that he saw right through his bullshit, and I agree with Richard completely. Should anyone actually invent and patent a fully recyclable water activated battery with indefinite shelflife, he/she will be rich. Bill Gates rich!

    • @wibblewobbler9104
      @wibblewobbler9104 Před 2 lety

      100% Richard was absolutely spot on with this one, there's a reason why this guy was sweating like an absolute pig, he knew what he was pitching was garbage.

    • @kyokusanagi616
      @kyokusanagi616 Před rokem +4

      Yea. Amazon and Tesla wouldn’t be able to hold a candle to that worth.

    • @anibaldk
      @anibaldk Před rokem

      No. He/she be dead. Jimmy Hoffa dead

    • @chrisstuart1227
      @chrisstuart1227 Před rokem

      Or dead?

    • @CarrieBulson
      @CarrieBulson Před rokem +1

      you spelled "dead" wrong

  • @BiscoChocLone
    @BiscoChocLone Před 3 lety +210

    Me: I quite like this product
    Dragon: I'm out
    Me: I'm out too, trash.

  • @jamiefitz5888
    @jamiefitz5888 Před 2 lety +95

    Richard Farley was spot on about this guy, it looks like a total scam. The idea that his company was going to make improvements to battery technology is laughable.

    • @sirplantain
      @sirplantain Před 2 lety

      Exactly, that's why the creator of the battery was not willing to go into business with Vivian - they knew that he'd not be able to improve on it enough for it to be viable for anything but a low current battery. I'm surprised Vivian didn't say that he was intending to develop his product for electric cars - why not go the whole ̶h̶o̶g̶ cow and really milk it!

    • @SIM2014
      @SIM2014 Před rokem

      He should have kept it to selling trickle powered toys instead.

    • @wowalamoiz9489
      @wowalamoiz9489 Před 8 měsíci

      Why would a scammer come in front of experts? Obviously he's just ignorant of science.

    • @fly9wheel
      @fly9wheel Před 6 měsíci

      He's just delusional living in a dream.@@wowalamoiz9489

  • @matthewsmythsmyth3390
    @matthewsmythsmyth3390 Před 3 lety +58

    Peter really hates Richard 😂😂😂

    • @annajones9701
      @annajones9701 Před 3 lety +27

      Richard is far smarter

    • @_Too_Late
      @_Too_Late Před 3 lety +31

      Richard is sigma male - the quiet effortless cool, and Peter hates that he has to try so hard in comparison

    • @billtilford3047
      @billtilford3047 Před 3 lety +14

      I wonder if Peter was instrumental in getting Richard off the show?

    • @drinkwater319
      @drinkwater319 Před 3 lety +11

      @@billtilford3047 …no I haven’t heard it was Peter, they say the BBC wanted an ‘ethnic’ looking dragon…in comes James Caan, who was a good dragon, as equally nice and soft spoken as Richard . Richard apparently got the most fan Mail during his time. His year on the show was enough to make him famous and instantly recognisable anyway so it did the job. He’s even appeared in the celebrity columns when he romanced Anthea Turner - so at least we know he’s not perfect lol

    • @netweed09
      @netweed09 Před 2 lety +6

      Tech rivals but Richard is obviously much more educated and informed in the core field.

  • @pboytrif1
    @pboytrif1 Před 3 lety +47

    Duncan is great.... "he thinks this, he thinks that... but at the end of the day... i dont care... i'm out".... LOL

  • @rpmc537
    @rpmc537 Před 3 lety +143

    Really wish Richard and Duncan were still on the show.

    • @AF-vm6xx
      @AF-vm6xx Před 2 lety +5

      Doocan?

    • @sharoncox4776
      @sharoncox4776 Před 2 lety +12

      Agreed. Duncan in particular - not the same without him!

  • @oztrekgelsoft8409
    @oztrekgelsoft8409 Před 2 lety +64

    Does this guy realise that that's how battery acid is made lol.
    So it's not recyclable because if you throw it away it's still contains active battery corrosive properties.
    You can get 1.5 volts out of a potato

    • @theodorosantreou8730
      @theodorosantreou8730 Před 2 lety +2

      There are WWII life jacket battery that use this tech on life jacket lamps.They are activated by sea water.

    • @oztrekgelsoft8409
      @oztrekgelsoft8409 Před 2 lety

      @@theodorosantreou8730 good old salt battery 👌

    • @gerhardvaneeden5615
      @gerhardvaneeden5615 Před 2 lety +6

      Not all potatoes. Joe Biden wouldn't produce any current at all.

  • @redmed10
    @redmed10 Před 3 lety +14

    Richard Farley was spot on.

  • @B_Bodziak
    @B_Bodziak Před 3 lety +194

    So, basically, he's selling cheap gadgets from China.

    • @DiabloOutdoors
      @DiabloOutdoors Před 3 lety +9

      Indeed. All of his products are sold world wide, sometimes with a little change in design, but the same over all. I checked their website and many products are below $5 Canadian retail

    • @Landrew0
      @Landrew0 Před 3 lety +25

      It's nothing more than a gimmick. The water doesn't provide any power, it's just an electrolyte that dissolves some salts, forming a very weak battery.

    • @netweed09
      @netweed09 Před 2 lety +3

      @@DiabloOutdoors I guess that's how he amasses sales. Cheap, so end-user accessibility. So he is a Con-artist but through a collective through a toy company that he uses as his trojan horse for testing his products/ideas etc.
      Wow

    • @DiabloOutdoors
      @DiabloOutdoors Před 2 lety

      @@netweed09 most probably

  • @MsMaryPatricia
    @MsMaryPatricia Před 3 lety +25

    This is my favourite Dragon line up.

  • @angus24402870451
    @angus24402870451 Před 3 lety +67

    I am afraid Richard Farleigh is correct. And he always is. The battery is a scam, it’s just water dissolve sth inside then provide mobile ions start some reactions etc. He works with professors in the Oxford University for tech start up projects, he is indeed an expert compare to Peter.

    • @andrewalberti9121
      @andrewalberti9121 Před 20 dny +1

      Nobody is always right first of all. Second, that might the reason why Richard was out for good... Going personal on the character of entrepreneurs (who were by the way pre selected) is obviously not good for the image of the Dragons and the TV format. Many people in the comment do not get that this goes on national tv and while entrepreneurs are usually ready to be criticised on their business, no entrepreneur in his right mind would risk his personal reputation.

    • @hub5343
      @hub5343 Před 12 dny

      @@andrewalberti9121 There have been many instances in the course of the production of this show where the investors have pursued personally the presenters - they do this quite regularly, although I happen to think that Richard Farleigh's comment is correct considering the state of play of battery technology. I think the show is ok 'entertainment' but most companies should not bother presenting on this show and head directly to banks for loans, angel investors directly or obtain funding privately. The only real reason to be on the show is for media exposure in my view to push a cause, or for the purposes of more investor interest elsewhere.

  • @scroggin92
    @scroggin92 Před 3 lety +30

    Richard is normally so nice, really layed the smack down on this one!

  • @Mr.M1STER
    @Mr.M1STER Před 2 lety +25

    This was definitely my favourite dragon lineup.

    • @Mr.M1STER
      @Mr.M1STER Před 2 lety

      @deja No.

    • @joakimsen87
      @joakimsen87 Před rokem

      Too bad it wasn't brown enough for public consumption

    • @jedross2136
      @jedross2136 Před 4 měsíci

      @@joakimsen87Ooo the brown people are coming to get me! Help help!

  • @ILee1041
    @ILee1041 Před 3 lety +282

    We meet again my fellow lunchtime warriors!

  • @lukeflaherty4806
    @lukeflaherty4806 Před 3 lety +281

    The fact I have never seen water powered batteries tells me this didn’t work out 😂😂😂

    • @vanessac1721
      @vanessac1721 Před 3 lety +14

      Because of Big Lithium. Lol

    • @syndan9245
      @syndan9245 Před 3 lety +9

      Hydrogen is a worthy competitor, think land rover is working on it

    • @doctorpanigrahi9975
      @doctorpanigrahi9975 Před 3 lety +1

      @@syndan9245 Landover is an Indian Company :)

    • @dipladonic
      @dipladonic Před 3 lety +6

      @@syndan9245 Ubiquitous green hydrogen is a fallacy.

    • @syndan9245
      @syndan9245 Před 3 lety +4

      @@dipladonic not at all, electrolysis to seperate it out is just inefficient. If we were to start adopting liquid salt reactors to power that though... now we cooking with gas

  • @fldigger
    @fldigger Před 3 lety +30

    A thief stole my water powered battery and drank the contents. The police charged him.

    • @denisxx61
      @denisxx61 Před 3 lety +4

      I heard that he punched an arresting officer and was then put in a dry cell and charged with assault and battery.

    • @icystrangers5482
      @icystrangers5482 Před 3 lety +3

      @@denisxx61 That was the one who broke into a bank and stole two vaults. He appeared before a circuit judge.

    • @icystrangers5482
      @icystrangers5482 Před 3 lety +3

      They gave him life?

    • @hdr_diamondz
      @hdr_diamondz Před 2 lety +3

      Great puns

  • @cekojuna6930
    @cekojuna6930 Před 3 lety +9

    First time I saw Richard roasting anybody this hard.

  • @naiboz
    @naiboz Před 3 lety +181

    I suspect Richard was right on this one…
    To be working in that space and to pretend to not know what other work is happening in that arena is either ignorance and stupidity or porky pies

    • @lewisb85
      @lewisb85 Před 3 lety +13

      The company still exists but has gone from selling water activated to solar power products, I wonder why? I work for a science museum in the UK and I get their sales emails occasionally still!

    • @MrBLAA
      @MrBLAA Před 3 lety +9

      @@lewisb85 these “green energy” products get tons of government subsidies. Basically, free money… pushing inefficient products/gadgets

    • @stephenhosking7384
      @stephenhosking7384 Před 2 lety +1

      Not entirely. It is possible to so focused on your own product you don't look at the competition (it's only a distraction which you can't do anything about), but when you come to VALUE your company, you have to.

    • @matthewking5612
      @matthewking5612 Před 2 lety

      Obviously, it all comes down to energy density, and sustainability.

    • @tooshlong
      @tooshlong Před rokem

      Or the guy is just clueless about the industry. No need for the accusations tbh.

  • @green_firefly
    @green_firefly Před 2 lety +25

    Vivian is no longer part of the company; terminated as director in 2016. And the company has around 32k in capital and reserves in 2020. Which is more than half of what they had the year before that.

    • @DJcyberslash
      @DJcyberslash Před 6 měsíci

      Cool story bro. Like they just told everyone their capital and reserves.

    • @hazy33
      @hazy33 Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@DJcyberslash The accounts are filed at Compies House for anyone to see.

  • @squalltheonly
    @squalltheonly Před 3 lety +44

    Dragons: "looks like meat is back on the menu, boys"
    They just ate him up lol

    • @RockyDave
      @RockyDave Před 3 lety +1

      Yes, it was a battery.

    • @psycoticbastard
      @psycoticbastard Před 3 lety +1

      A Lord of the Rings quote, i can see it now

    • @EmperorsNewWardrobe
      @EmperorsNewWardrobe Před 2 lety

      Ah yes, a lord of the rings reference, referencing the secretive orc restaurants of middle earth

  • @garethblake3941
    @garethblake3941 Před 2 lety +14

    I worked for a ferry company back in the 90's and they used similar batteries then to power harbour navigation lights so the technology has been around for quite a time.

    • @feonor26
      @feonor26 Před 8 měsíci

      It's because what he showed is just a regular battery

    • @fly9wheel
      @fly9wheel Před 6 měsíci

      That was probably Lead Acid batteries which need topping up with distilled water regularly after recharging.

  • @SRPC21
    @SRPC21 Před 2 lety +39

    Richard Farley was so smart & a genuinely nice guy too.
    I’m really sad he was let go by the programme, he was confused and shocked about the decision too.

    • @aliasad2143
      @aliasad2143 Před 2 lety +12

      I have a feeling it was because he was too nice. Definitely my favorite dragon though!

    • @SRPC21
      @SRPC21 Před 2 lety +7

      @@aliasad2143 It might have had something to do with not getting on with Peter Jones but there’s no foundation to that really.

    • @jackrules24
      @jackrules24 Před 2 lety +8

      @@SRPC21 From what has been revealed online, BBC got rid of him because they were seeking a more ethnically diverse panel of dragons. At least that is the rumour and what is stated on the dragons wiki page.

    • @xdarrenx
      @xdarrenx Před 6 měsíci

      @@jackrules24 A fair point, and just to bring it up, if 1 has to be cut, Peter Jones might have made more money for the program over the years, and by that fact alone would be weighed more, than "who is nice" for the investors of the show

  • @techwiz81
    @techwiz81 Před 3 lety +15

    A battery that is only useable with products also produced by this company…real useful

  • @RealityCheck6T9
    @RealityCheck6T9 Před 3 lety +21

    If Richard said the sky was blue Peter would say it was pink

  • @anasksaibati4221
    @anasksaibati4221 Před 3 lety +26

    Richard "hold one a second I'm gonna fix my hair one more time then I'm ready to have my say"

    • @iancampbell9297
      @iancampbell9297 Před 3 lety +1

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @netweed09
      @netweed09 Před 2 lety +2

      This is; he can really back it up with proper substance.
      Unlike Duncan who tries the same thing in effect but with the grace of a sweaty woodcutter in the Amazon to cover up his lack of actual product knowledge. Yes,, Mr ''Does the electric toothbrush need a battery?'' himself!

  • @Hereford1642
    @Hereford1642 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Here is how to make one if you are interested:-
    One electrode of copper. One electrode of zinc, Some crystals of citric acid. Put them in a plastic tube.
    See experiments running a low power device using an orange or even a potato. That is all.

  • @PhilosophyofElivagar
    @PhilosophyofElivagar Před 3 lety +54

    I always treat entrepreneurs with non-patented exclusivity deals with caution as there always seems to be a sense of desparation and sunk-cost fallacy going on. Guarantee if you asked this guy when the 5-year contract expires he'd say something like "the beginning of next year". Same was true with the vitimin candy and the gps kids watch

    • @westechmedia4567
      @westechmedia4567 Před 2 lety +3

      Exactly what it is.

    • @stevengu1253
      @stevengu1253 Před 2 lety +2

      Well, based on what he's told the Dragons, at most, his contract has 2 years remaining time because he's already did 3 years of distribution and got numbers for that. So yeah, terrible investment. I wouldn't give him a dollar.

  • @risanad1971
    @risanad1971 Před 2 lety +15

    He WAS trying to pull the wool over them and Richard was the only one who caught it. Also he probably made his previous sells by telling the buyers that it was water powered or just hiding it and telling them it was a "water cell battery" when it was only a gimmick of a con artist.

  • @deehitman414
    @deehitman414 Před 3 lety +8

    Love the old episodes.Thanks D.D.

  • @caifrootz2537
    @caifrootz2537 Před 3 lety +19

    Richard: You trying to fool us! >:(
    Peter: *Disagrees with Richard because he doesn't like him*
    Duncan: I DUN CARE, AM OOT

  • @olaoluwaadeyemo6939
    @olaoluwaadeyemo6939 Před 3 lety +48

    His amount of sweat could power a battery🔋😰😂

    • @netweed09
      @netweed09 Před 2 lety +1

      Lol, you could clearly smell that those weren't nerves - that was just the sheer anxiety of a scammer knowing his ass would very-likely get found out.

  • @doctorsocrates4413
    @doctorsocrates4413 Před rokem +8

    Richard was a great dragon.wish he was still appearing.

  • @anonp2958
    @anonp2958 Před 2 lety +6

    They deliberately have hot lights placed in the direction of the person asking for the investments to make them sweat and look as if they are nervous.

  • @pierrerossouw6083
    @pierrerossouw6083 Před 2 lety +4

    12:23 Notice the small smirk between Peter and Richard. Two "tech" guys knowing and respecting.

  • @Iyerbeth
    @Iyerbeth Před 3 lety +42

    I'm glad Richard was there on this one.

    • @somemong989
      @somemong989 Před 3 lety +11

      I like him, man has a sort of Niles Crane quality to him

    • @netweed09
      @netweed09 Před 2 lety

      @@somemong989 Calm and collected. Quietly confident.

  • @alexdivision4320
    @alexdivision4320 Před 3 lety +22

    So instead of pitching an actual hydrogen fuel cell... he pitched a water battery?? Hell, lead acid batteries use water and are fully recyclable

    • @netweed09
      @netweed09 Před 2 lety +1

      Exactly. He's coming out of no-where among all those researching students Richard mentioned and already establish Mega-companies like Duracell and thinks he can eat at the round table, lol.

    • @fly9wheel
      @fly9wheel Před 6 měsíci

      Lead Acid batteries use sulphuric acid.

    • @alexdivision4320
      @alexdivision4320 Před 6 měsíci

      @@fly9wheel you put water in them though

  • @notmenotme614
    @notmenotme614 Před 2 lety +30

    7:40 It might work as a battery, technically. But its a very weak battery. I’d be interested to see it’s power and duration (amp hours?) compared to an AA battery.
    The moment he says it can’t substitute an AA battery... I’m out

    • @stevengu1253
      @stevengu1253 Před 2 lety +6

      Even if it can, you shouldn't invest in that company because the company doesn't own the patent to the product. If the inventor decides to not give him a renewal of the contract, he's bust. The entire company's completely worthless.

    • @fly9wheel
      @fly9wheel Před 6 měsíci +1

      It would probably power an LED for about 30 seconds.

  • @iluvatar003
    @iluvatar003 Před 2 lety +7

    6:58 "Selling something and making no money is easy. Anyone can do it." Duncan's book is Anyone Can Do it. In stores now. That's not what he was talking about though...

  • @Ghost572
    @Ghost572 Před 3 lety +13

    The question is, what is the internal resistance of that water cell, its like yeah you can get 5V out of a potato, but the internal resistance is in the range of 30kohms and therefore reduces how much power you can get out of it. That being said I did see someone powering a calculator with a potato array haha.

  • @zyme4569
    @zyme4569 Před 2 lety +5

    "it's left to duncan bannatyne to have the final word" 😂 haha we all know how that's gonna end

  • @timtam6442
    @timtam6442 Před 3 lety +8

    I was waiting for him to bring out his bag of magic beans

  • @fritzstudios8571
    @fritzstudios8571 Před 3 lety +27

    I'm Australian and I wish I was as educated and refined as Richard Farley.. Sadly, I am just another knuckle dragging Australian with a penchant toward thievery and skulduggery :(

  • @4th_Lensman_of_the_apocalypse

    “He doesn’t own the patent for the CURRENT technology”! 😂💀

  • @nicholasdavidson5683
    @nicholasdavidson5683 Před 2 lety +5

    He held his ground really well considering

  • @georgegalica
    @georgegalica Před 3 lety +27

    To be fair to him, his business is still trading well and it looks like he sold it in 2016. No sign of water batteries however!

    • @netweed09
      @netweed09 Před 2 lety +3

      @@666m111 Yep; anyone can sell using an obscure vehicle from a Chinese importing company for low-priced products.

  • @SoSo-li6dn
    @SoSo-li6dn Před 3 lety +19

    It's just a battery, you add water to dampen the dry electrolyte. It's cool, and may last longer than a convenientianal batteries which dry out much quicker, but it works the same as recharables batteries which lose life span every time you refill them.

  • @vishk123
    @vishk123 Před 3 lety +8

    £3.8 million!!! This is going to be a lunchtime treat!

    • @SWUploads971
      @SWUploads971 Před 3 lety +1

      Peters wrong, it's 4 million.

    • @S0UNDWAVE
      @S0UNDWAVE Před 3 lety

      20 * 200,000 = 4 mil

    • @tgooda4672
      @tgooda4672 Před 3 lety +3

      Afraid you’re both wrong. 3.8 million is the correct, pre-money valuation. The business is (supposedly) worth 3.8 million. With an investor’s cash, it would then be worth 4 million but they’re discussing what it’s worth pre-investment.
      The cash doesn’t go FROM the dragon TO the shareholder - it’s for newly issued shares.

    • @S0UNDWAVE
      @S0UNDWAVE Před 3 lety +1

      @@tgooda4672 5/100 * x = 200,000
      x = 20 * 200,000
      4 million.
      Can you show me what calculation you used? Generally interested, thanks.

    • @tgooda4672
      @tgooda4672 Před 2 lety

      David they're talking about a situation where somebody will pay 200k to own 5% of the business including the 200k cash injection. This would mean the business with the 200k cash injection is worth 4 mil, and the business without the 200k (i.e. the business as it currently is today that's being brought to the table) is worth 4 mil - 200k = 3.8mil. So it's worth 3.8 mil before the investment ('pre money') and 4 mil after it.
      This is always referred to incorrectly in the den. The dragons will definitely know this, I can only assume it's done for the purposes of tv (and on some really early clips you do hear them talk about pre and post money).

  • @tiprat5051
    @tiprat5051 Před 3 lety +15

    Richards honesty is why Dragons den producers didn't like him

    • @jordanmeanes4464
      @jordanmeanes4464 Před 3 lety +1

      I actually thought the opposite. I like him as a Dragon but you could see here how uncomfortable he was with confrontation. I think the producer's want someone who is more willing to go in on people, here he seemed to be fumbling for words and unable to make eye contact. Nice guy but I guess the producers like something a little more spicy.

    • @tiprat5051
      @tiprat5051 Před 3 lety +1

      @@jordanmeanes4464 disagree with that. I don't think you can be as successful as he is an not be able to handle confrontation

    • @jordanmeanes4464
      @jordanmeanes4464 Před 3 lety

      @@tiprat5051 Of course you can.

    • @tiprat5051
      @tiprat5051 Před 3 lety

      @@jordanmeanes4464 no

    • @netweed09
      @netweed09 Před 2 lety

      Damn, lol!

  • @GeorgeOu
    @GeorgeOu Před 3 lety +7

    It's a water-activated battery with a consumable one-time use fuel.

    • @ubahfly5409
      @ubahfly5409 Před 2 lety +1

      That's what ppl aren't getting. The "water" is a red herring. Gives the impression that "Oh when the battery runs out ya just refill it w/ water".

  • @socialjusticewarrior2316
    @socialjusticewarrior2316 Před 3 lety +3

    This was a good one

  • @Vix2066
    @Vix2066 Před 3 lety +10

    BLT for me today💪🥪
    I like that Richard guy.

  • @DavidHeffron78
    @DavidHeffron78 Před 2 lety +7

    - Hi guys, guess what, you know that scam thing I am doing? I get to go on Dragon's Den and try and scam the Dragons?
    - But Vivian, won't they immediately see it as a scam?
    - Nah, I'll be fine.

    • @stephenhosking7384
      @stephenhosking7384 Před 2 lety +4

      HAHAHAHA! "It's got so many problems they'll get bored with finding them, and just give me the money"

  • @Goku9000
    @Goku9000 Před 3 lety +17

    I can literally make that cell in my toilet. The water is acting like a "Solute" between two metals. This is the very basic galvanic cell, without the water. What this dude dis was add the water part after.
    This is exactly like ordering noodles from a restaurant compared to buying cup noodles. Just add water and all the ingredients are already in there

    • @jasonwen7495
      @jasonwen7495 Před 2 lety +1

      Do you put the anode in the cistern, the cathode in the bowl, and flush whenever you need the ions to be balanced?

    • @stevendale7658
      @stevendale7658 Před 2 lety

      Walter whites battery was way bettet

    • @Goku9000
      @Goku9000 Před 2 lety

      @@jasonwen7495 nice humour but a basic salt bridge should take care of balancing the ions

  • @billybollockhead5628
    @billybollockhead5628 Před 2 lety +2

    I’m actually surprised none of them could see through this bollocks

  • @Synthematix
    @Synthematix Před 3 lety

    Im here again, i cant bloody stop watching these

  • @DarkReapersGrim1
    @DarkReapersGrim1 Před 3 lety +10

    The Chinese guy doesn't want to invest or do joint ventures with his Anglo behind for good reason, he doesn't need him. If he needed investment or a joint venture, he can go to any number of Chinese investors/companies.

  • @rohilthomson
    @rohilthomson Před 3 lety +4

    Hi!
    0:32 what?
    0:32 who?
    0:32 chika-chika Slim Shady.

  • @callummccormick86
    @callummccormick86 Před 2 lety +5

    You could presumably power the space shuttle using these batteries just with the sweat coming off Vivian in this pitch.

  • @kinggimped
    @kinggimped Před měsícem +1

    Richard Farley is a really astute guy. You can see how he got to where he is.

  • @lukebignell7846
    @lukebignell7846 Před 3 lety +32

    Pasta for lunch - I like my carbs

    • @OakApplegardens
      @OakApplegardens Před 3 lety +3

      Lucky sod. I can't have pasta, trying to lose weight.

    • @SWUploads971
      @SWUploads971 Před 3 lety +3

      @@OakApplegardens I'm not trying to lose weight. KFC for my lunch.

    • @joshuawarrington1051
      @joshuawarrington1051 Před 3 lety +2

      Same here just had a carbonara

    • @Jimverse_
      @Jimverse_ Před 3 lety +2

      Cheese, salami, tomato and hot sauce sandwich, today's hot sauce is Frank's for that mild but classic taste

    • @smackham4683
      @smackham4683 Před 3 lety +3

      Idk why im taking part of this wierd thing XD but I had bolognese myself for lunch
      Btw why is everyone sharing their lunch lol

  • @LOST815EXECUTE
    @LOST815EXECUTE Před 3 lety +12

    I love you tubes closes captions. Theo per fetus

  • @olaoluwaadeyemo6939
    @olaoluwaadeyemo6939 Před 3 lety +8

    I think the thumbnail image should have included Richard and not Debra..

  • @AD-bm8mq
    @AD-bm8mq Před 3 lety +6

    They must turn the heat up in there for a laugh

    • @lukegale7812
      @lukegale7812 Před 2 lety +1

      And encourage them to wear suits to look smart

  • @catman2484
    @catman2484 Před 3 lety +6

    The water is delivered in a funneled utensil... And for THAT reason, I'm spout.

  • @pupplemupple
    @pupplemupple Před 3 lety +14

    everyone here having their lunch while I'm in Asia having my dinner.

    • @smurfarooney2003
      @smurfarooney2003 Před 3 lety +2

      I just got back from Hong Kong were in Asia are you

    • @icystrangers5482
      @icystrangers5482 Před 3 lety +1

      I'm in the Northern Hemisphere waiting for my dinner.

    • @pupplemupple
      @pupplemupple Před 3 lety

      @@smurfarooney2003 singapore :)

    • @techwiz81
      @techwiz81 Před 3 lety +1

      I always watch over my breakfast in Canada lol

    • @smurfarooney2003
      @smurfarooney2003 Před 3 lety

      @@pupplemupple I was in johor a few years back what do you do out there

  • @ifartalot3516
    @ifartalot3516 Před 3 lety +2

    The battery started leaking on his forehead half way through the pitch 😂😂🤣🤣

  • @theovolz3073
    @theovolz3073 Před 3 lety +37

    His forehead is producing enough water to power half of Britain.

    • @Ryanjoned163
      @Ryanjoned163 Před 3 lety

      😂😂😂😂

    • @Albimar17
      @Albimar17 Před 2 lety +5

      Still not producing as much water as Barry's forehead from a pitch offering the PUREST, FRESHEST, ICE COLD BEST DRINKING WATER ON THE PLANET!

    • @Mr.M1STER
      @Mr.M1STER Před 2 lety +1

      Possibly enough water to power one of his tv remote devices lol

    • @the11382
      @the11382 Před 2 lety +2

      They purposely make where he stands hotter to make him look nervous to the camera. They either use hot lamps or heaters.

  • @salemkid1979
    @salemkid1979 Před 3 lety +18

    That man is "sweat activated"

  • @william7yifans
    @william7yifans Před 2 lety +3

    i spit out my water when he said "portable radios and dvd players"

  • @andrewharrison1194
    @andrewharrison1194 Před 2 lety +2

    Just checked the company on Companies House and it's still around. Filing micro accounts and definitely not in the £4m bracket! Vivian Blick resigned his directorship in 2016.

  • @conanzbarbarian
    @conanzbarbarian Před 3 lety +1

    Addicted to these clips as much as I am to the gym

    • @conanzbarbarian
      @conanzbarbarian Před 3 lety

      @James Cricket guess I gotta swap back to the gym addiction lol

  • @mattaddison1910
    @mattaddison1910 Před 3 lety +26

    If this was genuinely water powered, the petroleum giants would have had him clipped long ago and his patent would vanish without a trace.

    • @donjoe2661
      @donjoe2661 Před 3 lety +7

      Sounds like a joke but it's nothing but the truth

    • @BenjaminGoose
      @BenjaminGoose Před 3 lety +2

      How? How would anyone hide something like this in the age of information? And how do you make a patent disappear? Patents are publicly available.

    • @mattaddison1910
      @mattaddison1910 Před 3 lety +5

      @@BenjaminGoose money.

    • @Connieisland0
      @Connieisland0 Před 3 lety +4

      @@BenjaminGoose look at what happened with covid..... They hid i
      The truth in plain sight and people are oblivious...I wouldn't be surprised if clean energy at very low cost would be already available...but we still overpay British gas and the such

    • @graham9352
      @graham9352 Před 3 lety

      They sell water powered rechargable batteries on Amazon, they have been around for decades

  • @remchaill9898
    @remchaill9898 Před 3 lety +7

    How do they get a £3.8m valuation from 5% at £200,000? Surely that's £4m? Did they cut something out?

    • @FlameFlickers
      @FlameFlickers Před 3 lety +4

      @Paul Blackman That's not how it works. Original comment was correct, Offering 5% for £200K means he is valuing the business at £4 million.

    • @icystrangers5482
      @icystrangers5482 Před 3 lety +1

      @Paul Blackman Makes sense. His valuation says that the £200k would be 5% of the new value of the company. Hence the present value is £3.8m.

  • @marior.4305
    @marior.4305 Před 2 lety +1

    Put a copper and a zinc nail into a potatoe and you have a battery. So you could sell potatoes as fuel.

  • @usedgifs5927
    @usedgifs5927 Před 2 lety +2

    You know it's a very old episode when you hear "DVD player"

  • @freezasama5802
    @freezasama5802 Před 3 lety +13

    If the product worked Duracell would have put them down and we would never heard of them again...

    • @BenjaminGoose
      @BenjaminGoose Před 3 lety

      How would that work? Anyone can google a patent.

    • @petenova
      @petenova Před 3 lety +2

      He meant that Duracell bunny would turn into assassin and kill' em all! 🐰

    • @freezasama5802
      @freezasama5802 Před 3 lety

      Pete Nova yes no competitors on the market

  • @cilobana3250
    @cilobana3250 Před 3 lety +3

    "Tunova tunova tunova" - Duncan 6:51

  • @iLeon99
    @iLeon99 Před 3 lety +10

    Richard: *fixes hair* I'm about to ruin this man

  • @Michael.Virtus
    @Michael.Virtus Před 3 lety +8

    0:24 - female vs male reaction to a toy car

  • @b-dogs1038
    @b-dogs1038 Před 3 lety +9

    PJ pandering to the inventor to get back at Richard. ‘You’re clearly a good guy’.. & ‘I would’ve invested if this & that’
    •How unnecessary, geez he can be a real pain in the backside

    • @jasperpike242
      @jasperpike242 Před 8 měsíci

      he's clearly a skanker, Peter is always so up himself.

  • @lukebignell7846
    @lukebignell7846 Před 3 lety +11

    He sold the business in 2016 and resigned as director. Did he make any money out of the sale?

    • @TheManInBlueFlames
      @TheManInBlueFlames Před 3 lety +5

      Yes.

    • @Slop_Dogg
      @Slop_Dogg Před 3 lety +10

      He sold it to some poor sod that is going to have to take his place as a sweaty guy attempting to sell batteries nobody wants

    • @TheManInBlueFlames
      @TheManInBlueFlames Před 3 lety +1

      Sweatyness is just part of the act. You sweat every day. It's in your blood.

    • @conorfett8209
      @conorfett8209 Před 3 lety +1

      @@TheManInBlueFlames your not a true sweat, come back when you can perform a simple cone and floor edit followed by a reverse ramp and wall edit then you can talk about sweating everyday! You don’t know the meaning mate! Low iq brah

  • @rumbleman65
    @rumbleman65 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Richard killed it here - guys a saleman running a distribution business - nothing more and he's gunna advance battery tech on 250k - what a clown

  • @nicholasdavidson5683
    @nicholasdavidson5683 Před 2 lety +1

    This is like watching a ship sinking and the captain has bailed out and the deck hand is trying to take over

  • @Lauren72382
    @Lauren72382 Před 3 lety +5

    3:09 The business isn't worth 3.8M..
    It would be an even 4M...
    He's asking for 200,000 for 5%

    • @matthewbell4273
      @matthewbell4273 Před 2 lety

      I agree; I was looking for this comment as I don’t understand the £4m v £3.8m discrepancy. One could argue that the offered 5% direct ownership of the company would mean a 5% indirect ownership of the £200k received by the company via the investment, but even that argument would only result in a £10k difference in perspective, not a £200k difference in perspective.

    • @beeble2003
      @beeble2003 Před 2 měsíci

      @@matthewbell4273 If you invest £200k in it, your £200k will be 5% of the value. So the value _then_ is £4M. But that value includes the £200k that you just put into it, so the value before your investment must have been £3.8M.