TT02 Speed Run Smoking ESC Edition Challenge Episode 10 Tamiya
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2023
- What a week of trying to get my TT02 going faster than Mark’s!! It has ended in failure and fires but we will be back baby!!
Reminder that we had:
1. 16mph Tamiya Torque Tuned
2. 18mph Tamiya Sports Tuned
3. 17mph Absima 21T
4. 17mph Holmes Hobbies 21T
5. 18mph Absima 21T
6. 17mph Tamiya Supersport RZ
7. 24mph Tamiya Supersport BZ
8. 25mph Etronixs 15T Modified
9. 24mph LRP 14x2 Modified
10. 26mph chassis mods and 64T spur
11. 30mph 29T pinion
12. 31mph foam tyres
13. 32mph 7.2v 5000mah pack
14. 33mph 8.4v 1800mah pack - Zábava
Hi there Craig!!! Bummer about the ESC mate, could just have been a duff unit, but I thought I heard some whining from the gears on that car park run?!?!?! Anyway, good luck with the new ESC and just make sure that mesh is allowing a little movement on the gears and you'll be fine. Loving the talkie bits (Bell End!!! 🤣) and the new camera setup, definitely adds to the viewing experience along with the new studio heater / lighting! The car park is the place for you from now on, no pesky bends to get in the way (or lamp posts! 😅😅)
But oh dear, I've set you a real target to chase now my friend. Catch me if ya can!! Cheers! 😬👊👍
Hey Mark, seems that the general consensus is that something was off with my mesh. I am going to use the Yeah Racing set up for the next run.
Means more time under the studio heater for me and some more camera tests 😁
I have one more shot at getting this ESC motor combo working otherwise I am back to the 15T on a 60/31 gear.
I am still determined to catch up matey!! You are not away from me yet… going to reel you in next week!!!
@@theoagrc I know you can get this setup working well, mate! Now just pull on your big boy pants and do it! Good luck dude!
I feel 40+ is coming pal! Watch out
Great video mate 👍 poor ESC 😂
Thanks Mark 🙌🏻
😁 Mark got ya good!! I know that smell I think I can smell it from here!! Hope all goes well on your next run!!
Hey Steve, I was hopeful for this run and then it all went wrong… the OAG will be back though dude!! Those ESCs stink!!
OMG, luckily it's "only" the ESC. Best wishes for your next run.
Thanks Dirk! I was lucky to whip it all out before it went up!
Yes, Craig, I do enjoy that little chit-chat! I'm halfway through the video, I paused to comment, I love your new lighting and of course the crispy close-up shots, very nice! I wanted to do stuff like that myself also, but I found it is just too much of a hassle, and it takes away from the joy of tinkering. I hope you find a good work routine, and of course show us that nice footage, still!
Paused for comment again: I was able to fit a 31 tooth pinion with no modifications on the gear cover, TT-02.
Yes, lock the front.
Bummer on the burnt ESC... I think your driveline is binding! It sounded like that on the bench and even more so on the run footage. So electrically what happens is the motor will just try to overcome any "work", and the current will keep rising, and the weakest link will give up, the ESC. I think you have a mechanical issue.
Sorry about the long comment, ha ha, I had a lot to say... Was really a great watch on a Saturday morning, and it got me thinking about motor timing, I now got some more plans of my own brewing, thanks very much! Have a great weekend there, my friend!
Hey Mads, thanks for the lovely comment brother! Addam also thought it sounded like there was some binding. It surprises me as we have not had any issues all the way up to this motor. I have an adjustable motor mount which will go in this weekend to correct any issues. Good spot pal 🙌🏻🤘🏻
Good to know about the pinion pal. I hope my next runs are successful so we can blast again 😁
I am pleased you like the camera angles. I have some lovely new builds coming this winter and I really wanted to do them justice. Lots of close up shots during the build and I am going to make a proper plan for each one.
Filming while I work helps me enjoy both aspects of the hobby which is a bonus!! I have grand plans but often it is all about how it works out 😂🤣 This trial was a good starter 🙌🏻
Dude..... That f@cking Blows!!!!!!!!!!!!!! At least the car survived....
You did warn me to check the temps!!!! The old wet finger failed me 🤣😂
Adjustable bell end?!!!!!
That's something totally different buddy!!
🤣 😂 🤣 😂 🤣 😂
Cheers for the giggles mate, I nearly wet myself when you dropped that one!
Feeling you on the grub screw thing, I had a grub screw strip on a vintage technigold motor.....
Had to drill it out but accidentally went through to the rotor shaft and destroyed an expensive vintage motor! 😬
Loving the new dual camera angles, gives us a great view of what's going on mate. 👌
Most interested in the upcoming pump box upgrades..... Pete at CWO1 creations is an absolute legend, and certainly knows his CWO1 chassis!
Gutted on the fried ESC mate, that has to be one of the worst smells ever don't ya think?
But, I think you sounded even more gutted by the fact Mr Bryan has just hit 40!!!
"If at first you don't succeed....."
Sure you will be back up fighting again soon mate. 🤞
Enjoyable video bud. 😊
👍 👍 👍
Hey James, I am glad you enjoyed the joke pal!! It was one of those that had to make the cut!!
Thanks for the kind comments on the edit. I am playing about with some new ideas ready for the winter builds to try and get the videos a little more detailed and interesting. We’ll see how it goes!
The Mark is a pesky pain in my arse! Showing all his experience which I am the young (old) buck who is just slapping stuff in a chassis and pulling the trigger while driving round bends…. 😂🤣🤪
I can’t wait to work on the Pumpbox this Autumn. Peter has really looked after me and I am looking forward for an extra play session with the CW01 over the winter 😁
@@theoagrc
"The Mark is a pesky pain in the arse"......😂
He has proved to be a worthy opponent though mate, which has led to some very entertaining viewing!
Indeed his experience shines through, full credit to the man!
He is getting very confident now, even beating us/rubbing it in ..... and we are running in the brushless /lipo category! 🤣 😂
Maybe you need to play with your bell end a little more and see if that will help? 😂
I'm definitely looking forward to the pump box videos over winter though mate, I do love monster trucks!
Hope you have a great weekend in this glorious sunshine mate! 😊
👍 👍 👍
Hearing your excitement when you said Holy shtt that's fast was great. LOL .Sorry about your esc
Cheers Joe! I got a bit carried away with it all!! Ended up being an anticlimax on the speed but I replaced that with smoke and melted plastic!!
No, no , no!!! I'm quietly rooting for you to get mark chasing you. Get fun all the same.
Next weekend Paul! Or maybe I will just pass him on the last run of the challenge 😂🤣
Your car has got a combustion engine 😅 Pain and gain... Keep on going!
Cheers dude!! Yeah I hoped all the fire and smoke would push me on a bit faster!!
Hi Craig. As usual been catching up on YT so hope you don't mind that I haven't commented on you recent vids. Anyway what a complete bummer. From watching the vid I would have to agree with Mark on it being a duff unit but I'm sure you will bounce back mate. Cool new format with the dual cameras, think I may have to try it myself. Great stuff and good luck for next runs dude.
No worries Rob! There is loads to watch these days! The ESC fire was a problem but we have a solution on the way!
Glad you liked the multi camera set up for the studio! Good luck on trying the same 🙌🏻 Let me know if you want any tips
That’s unfortunate about the esc Craig!😔
Hopefully you can get it sorted out soon!👍😊
It was all looking so promising too Jeremy and then it wasn’t!! I have one more to try and then I am probably out but I hope to get close to Mark for the end of September
Oh goodness that is a bad result Craig ☹ I'm also worried because I was planning to use pretty much that exact set-up but not sure now. That pesky Mark seems to be speeding off into the distance! Hope you can get a better run in. The 2 camera angle thing is a good idea. Cheers for now mate 👍👍
Thanks Pete! The ESC just got too hot under the strain of my gearing I think. Onwards and upwards. One last attempt and then if that doesn’t work I will be back to the 15T motor for some final runs.
Nice work on the car. Thats one melted ESC 😂 that motor will probably be faster with a better ESC 🙂 subscribed 👍
Thanks for the sub! I am hoping the ESC turns up today and I can give it another good rip this weekend!!
choo choooo 😮smoking like a train, dude that's happened to two of my cars almost two days in a row 😢😢 still haven't fixed um 👍👍👍👍
The window of the body are naturally smoked which was a nice bonus 😂
cool rc and run,bummer the esc burnt,fix and let it rip brother
We’ll be back duke and ready to rock 🤘🏻
Love the video sir! Rooting for you both! Mostly because of the entertainment value😂😂 good luck! Hopefully I’ll get a run in today!
Thanks for watching pal! It ended up being a really long video of a whole week of trials and tribulations!! Hoping to be back at it next weekend and getting a step closer to Mark!! 🙌🏻
@@theoagrc the video was awesome!.. mine get a little long as well and I don’t think many people watch it through… I watched your to the end… good stuff I enjoy watching and learning!
Seems a lot of people are facing set backs right now. Hope to see it running again soon!
Cheers TJYD! I thought this was going to send me past 40 but the ESC had other plans!! Pesky Mark will remain ahead of me until then!!
It is so funny that when I was watching this I could actually smell the melted Esc! 😵😂
I think in order to beat Mark, you may have to find a mascot w/ bigger nuts Marks squirrel 😝
The smell of burning plastic and electrics is very unique isn’t it!! I feel you are probably right Robbie. I am missing a mascot!! I am thinking a great big jet engine strapped to the back of the car would make a good mascot 🤪
@@theoagrc 👌🏼😝
Oh man that’s not good. On the upside, it’s a good thing the esc was the only casualty. You should look into changing out the Tamiya connectors especially when running low turn motors. Also, it could be geared too tall. All the best for your next attemp when the new esc arrives.👍😊
Hey Sean, thanks for the advice pal. To swap out the connectors I will need to get new batteries and chargers which is a next year project now.
I have a new ESC on the way to try again. Fingers crossed it survives a few good runs. Perhaps I will gear down for the next one 🤪
On stuck pinion screw, use heat torch and starbit to remove.
I use only allen keys now to tighten. Because its really hard to over torque with a tiny allen key. Anyway just some shop knowlege
You can also melt a bic pen into grooves like this then let cool and dry in freezer. Then it will be shape of head exactly
I have started to do the same with the Allen key so it is not over tightened! Some great tips there for those of us unfortunate enough to have this issue with our motors…. Thanks for watching 🙌🏻
You could take that esc cast it in resin and make an artpiece out of it. Call it "the price of Speed"....😬
Also, looks like you've found a good spot for runs with that parking Lot...
Hey Tom, I think I should turn it into a keepsake for the studio! Great idea 🙌🏻
The new car park is brilliant although full of learner cars!!
Hells bells, ive not seen an esc do that in a long time 😯 looking forward to seeing what you get out of it when your new esc arrives. Ive had some new parts arrive that should hopefully put me ahead of mark 🤞 but could easly end up with a smelly esc 😂
I think it was a faulty ESC but it meant for a whole week of slow progress in speed runs. I have some solutions on the way but I am out of action until next weekend!!
@@theoagrc i had a run last weekend, thats dropping on here at 10/11. But no runs this weekend as its revival 😎 but hopefully i’ll get out next weekend 🤞
@lo2713 have fun at the revival Richard! I would love to have a go at that one year.
@@theoagrc get yourself booked in next year 👍 you’ll love it
Fire makes it go faster
😂🤣 The body has some lovely smoked windows now!!
17:45 famous last words :)
😂🤣
Interesting what you found in the manual. I knew a 12T was rhe limit in the batteries Inuse but never gone that low tbh. Does seem you pushed the ESC too far for whatever reason. All good learning and glad you are having fun. 👍🏻
Hey Damien, I picked this ESC up as it claimed to have a lower turn limit on the ESC and rpms that should have coped with my motor. Turns out I pushed it soo far with the gearing or timing on the motor. I will be back before the end of September with another blast! Mark is getting away that easily!!
@@theoagrc Good on ya! Chase him down. I recently got a deal on a TT02 but won't get a chance to run it or try it for a while.
@DustyFingersRC it is a fun chassis any time 🙌🏻
Sorry to see the esc problem. Hope to see you see you back soon. Bit strange about that esc. I was running a 1060 earlier with no issue but it is rated to 12t I think.
Hey Nick. I think I was geared up too high. I am dropping it down before I run it again! I will break 40 before September is out!!
thebandit1974 11t minimum 👍
Hey Peter, this one said 8T but I think I just over geared it in the end!! It will be back for sure 🙌🏻
Hey there. With that much torque thru yr 10T motor, try to free up as much rolling resistance in your bearings. Switch back to the rubber tyres as I think wider rears are larger than the fronts. Since you have a clear rear window, temporarily mount yr gps speed gauge undsr the screen. U can see the results and the added weight can substitute for some effects of a rear wing. Ditch the tamiya to deans connector. You are losing alot of voltage wasted through the tamiya connector. Spade connectors on a 10T? Direct solder them.
Great advice 🙌🏻 I have lots of options it seems to get some more out of this chassis in the future. I have a new ESC which is able to run the motor but I am parking the chassis until next summer. I will get some deans connectors and a new charger and try again 👍🏻 Thanks for watching 😁
Smoke is never good in an RC Car! You might try ditching that deans to Tamiya connector. It might be causing some resistance. You might want to check on that heat sink. I'm not sure, but it might be shorting out on the motor leads? Enjoyed the video!
All good suggestions Arky! I never thought to check that nothing was shorting. The ESC got got way too quickly though! I don’t have a charger capable of the deans plugs so I will have to live on the Tamiya ones for this year. Maybe for next years speed run challenge I will spend some money on chargers and batteries!!
I will be back though pal and thanks for the advice 🙌🏻
I agree with Arky and have experience twice due to connector adapter and my motor is only 19T not a hot motor. I believe the esc is capable. Thanks for sharing👍
@MechanicallyFun thanks for watching pal. It is fun to learn through mistakes and the great community 🙌🏻 I will be shopping for some better batteries and connections for next year for sure!!
Might be causing some resistance? It WILL be causing some resistance! The number one rule is "keep all wiring as short as possible."
@SpeccyMan So everyone has told me. I will bear these tips in mind for speed run 2024. Many thanks 🙌🏻
oh dear mate. my udi esc went up and that smell is urghhhh
Yeah it was not nice Dom! Made the car smell pretty bad on the drive home too!! 🤪
This is strange. I run 10-12 turn motors on 6 cell nimh or 2 cell lipos. I would’ve thought your setup would be ok
Hey Thad, everyone is telling me that my gearing is too high and the battery connections are bad. Probably a combination of the two so we will try one more ESC and then if that goes I am tapping out 🤔
So a couple things I noticed, the gear mesh sounded too tight, it was very whiny sounding and the gear mesh being that tight causes a lot of excess drag. When everything is tightened down the spur and pinon should have the tiniest bit of play in between them, not a measurable amount just enough to see one move a tiny amount before the other other one does. I also saw it was a a Tamiya 1060 and I am not terribly confident they are the top rated ones from HobbyWing, I am not sure about anything but often things are cherry picked for optimal use by there own branding and the mid tier get rebranded for RTR and kits and then the lowest tier get sold under other companies on places like eBay where they may or may not last more than 10 minutes of normal use! The additional wire and connectors are not helping either as it is adding additional resistance which equates to heat, probably not enough to cause this but less wire and connectors the best. I used some on mine but I was not pulling the amperage your are with a 10t motor. Needless to say I am sorry it happened and I know you are getting frustrated but it could have been a lot worse so at least it is just a charred ESC and not a charred blob of a car!
Hey Addam, great advice pal! I will check the mesh as the Yeah Racing motor mount is going on next.
I am sure you are right with the electronics and perhaps the Tamiya plug is causing all the problems. Mark was running the same set up on his except a lower gearing so perhaps it was me that killed it. It was a cheap 1060 model but is was claimed to be capable of the lower turn motor and higher rpm. Oh well!
Replacement is on the way and we’ll have one or two more runs before it is all over… 40mph is in my sights!!! Thanks for watching brother 🙌🏻
@@theoagrc Honestly it is more about the gearing than the motor. I mean of course a fast motor will help but the main driveline gearing is so low you really have to up the direct drive gearing a lot to make it go fast! Also, when you put in the 60t spur you will have all the room in the world for a bigger pinon. I have the 64t spur in mine now and a 25t pinion in there and the motor is almost touching the driveshaft is is shifted over so far due to the smaller spur.
@AddamsPlayground I might have to make that swap at the same time I put the new ESC in now!
This has been such a fun project and I am determined to see a top speed of 40+ before we wrap it all up and put the motors and ESCs away until next summer 😁
@@theoagrc You will get there, I am fully confident in that!
Yeah, Addam, I heard that too... I couldn't pinpoint the gear mesh, but I think you're right! Definitely mechanical friction/resistance that killed that ESC... (sorry to barge in on your comment)
Get rid of the tamiya plug and run just deans
Agreed Alistair. Next year I will get some new batteries and chargers.