Hey look everyone, we got an honest mechanic! Most mechanics where I live won't even bother checking an actuator they just pull everything(turbo included) and replace! Love the videos!
Warren ..I had 2 tractors in the last year that were the same deal .. let's just say I now have a spare actuator as well . . Almost need an actuator for diagnostics because it's hard to positively diagnose the turbo vs acuator and of course the new turbos come with an actuator. Thanks for the video
I’m a field tech for Fresno equipment in five points ca. And that a is a common failure down here. The turbo is moving to far, it shouldn’t move more the 90 degrees from its resting position. I replace a turbo about once a week. I carry a actuator with me. And when I see that code I try the actuator and if it doesn’t calibrate I just replace the turbo. There is a new payload for those engines but it wouldn’t fix that problem. I enjoy watching your videos. Keep up the good work.
So great for the environment that we get to mine all that extra material and burn energy to make it into metal and process it down to a shitty part that needs to be replaced when a regular old turbo woulda ran for 25 years on an old tractor. Politicians are brainless
I had a similar problem on my buddies ISX he had taken it to Cummins several times they put on 2 turbos charged him up the ass still had issues so he brought it me all shit shook I hooked up to cummins insite went through calibration testing etc couldn’t find anything! I checked wires from Ecuador to control, bingo ! I had 12 volts on my meter but when I loaded that circuit with a light bulb voltage dropped down to like 2 volts ! I did an overlay for that wire problem solved! Didn’t make any $$ on it but I got a thankyou! Lol! Great video bud thanks for sharing yeah sometimes we get ass kickers that just don’t make sense! Have a good Sunday take care 👍
Black Smoke I have had trouble with wiring around turbos since Ford turboed the 2.3ltr in the mustang.Good job on load testing the wires , that is a necessity when working with DC voltage over any distance, like in a tour bus .
This was a very interesting one to watch . I had problems with the actuator in my BMW, apperantly the turbo carbened up and and the electromotor of the actuator failed eventually.
Warren greetings from Eastern Ohio. I love watching your videos. I have worked on Deere tractors for over 25 years. i have had a few VGT turbos that travel too far instead of freezing up. Something that also might help you is Deere releases updated software bundles almost yearly. i dont know how many times that the problem with all the code popping and issue with the R and M series are software related. Keep up the great work you are an amazing mechanic that Valley is lucky to have you.
Hey Warren, thank you very much for your videos and work. You're the best out there. I've had VGT's (of different makes as well) fail the calibration due to OVER travel. The cumulative wear in the linkage to the unison ring causes the actuator to travel beyond its normal range. I can rarely see or feel the wear, but its there. Turbo replacement it is!
Just realised why I like your videos . No heirs or graces . It is what it is warts and all. The truth videos of a hard working self employed man taking the world along on his daily jobs .
In Europe that issue was traced to the manifold. It was allowing the turbo to move and vibrate too much and destroying the actuator and ring gear JD did a recall or PIP on them and replaced all the manifolds and turbos on 170 190 and 210 with beefed up parts
Great video Warren, I know you don’t have a lot of time but maybe you can get one of those large magnets like they use on droplights and hook it up to that tripod your using. That way you could just stick it on your truck bed. Thanks for sharing.
We had the 6125R on our farm do the same error code and it was the VGT ring in the turbo. John Deere here in Australia recommend to change the turbo to the new updated version.
Great videos Warren...I do maintenance also, I wish I had your patience and diagnostic skills...I just want to hit sh*t with a hammer after awhile...lol
That turbo looked pretty black, like it might be leaking oil. It's difficult to get operators to let things idle to cool down the turbo before shutting the engine off.
Hi . Only problem with theses new tractor to many electronics . There's not much for us machines any more we are all turning in to fitters now . Carnt do anything with out a computer any more. . I still like my old school stuff. Look how much problems you had with that backhoe the other week. It's all shit now. Great video as normal just waiting for next one. From Andy in UK
Great video young man and with modern stuff going wrong it makes you wonder if all these modern very expensive tractors are actually worth it their cost value in the long run? Because you could buy a properly restored old tech (80's tractor for example) tractor for maybe 1/3 the price of a new one and it would outlast the new one. Many old pre 2000's tractors are still going strong in their original markets or sold into export markets as sued machines. I cannot see modern (The last decade or so) tractors lasting 20,30 or 40+yrs and then going to Africa or Asia for a second life. And on that basis you have to question the economics and "Eco/green" value of remaking new stuff. Still, if they didn't go wrong Warren would loose work and we would loose the videos!
There's a lot more going on via the can bus, feedback travel and load current, maybe the travel is ok but the effort to move may exceed the tolerances thus causing your error. This is a problem with error codes they are very generic and criptic. Swapology is the only cure here. Great video, agree with other commentator a magnetic stand for your camera or even a head cam😉
Software on these type vehicles is so tight now you have enter in calibration numbers just to get the ECU to recognize the part. A Mack MP7 I installed injectors in has to have each injector number entered in to the tool and reflashed just to get the engine to run.
Nice job warren those VGT’s can be a pain . I have found that some times the travel is too great on the actuator it should move 90 degrees. You can reduce the travel by welding a stop to the clamping band and get the lower end of the linkage rod to stop on it and then run the VGT Calibration all should be good 🙂
ECU will also set codes if there's to much travel. Sometimes heat can change the length of linkages and go outside the ECU's set value. Sometimes wear can do it.
Another great video Warren. Just thinking about it, when it is giving that error code, instead of a travel issue could it be a resistance issue. As in it is not moving as freely as it should be?. Moving yes but not freely. I know some things that can be an issue am wondering if could be for this as well. How the system determine's that is unknown maybe it is related to draw current or even time to go from full up to full down. I am sure there is someone here who is much more knowledgeable than myself who would know if that is possible.
Dealerships are an expensive business to own. A well equipped repair shop is likewise an expensive business to own. Dealerships are franchises which do not operate or thrive on good will, they operate on a healthy profit. As much as they would like to have you believe your good will is the bottom line of their business, it is not. A fat profit is the bottom line. Guys like Warren are the guts of a business, franchise or private.
John Deere love to make a simple thing & over complicate it, its a tractor with all the fruit, guess if your hauling all day in a paddock, some creature comforts are necessary, gee they aren't like the old days these units, slight hiccup & there down...lucky this gentleman is a good honest mechanic & in demand.
Hello Warren. What were the symptoms (besides codes) that prompted this work. I'm asking because I have an International 4300 with the DT466 that has a very similar VGT. It runs fine when cold but gets less responsive as it heats up. After a hot restart all hell breaks loose. Sometimes zero throttle response until I feather the throttle, then it kicks in but blows soot. Then it runs only OK and then sputters again. This condition persists the rest of the day. Your videos are AMAZING. Thank you!!!
Unreal.......not a dam thing wrong on that turbo....almost like deer decided ok let's sell some turbos and linked in some codes through GPS that wont go away until you buy a new one.....you dident happen to get the hours on that machine did you....I'm always curious what hours are on these machines you work on...great stuff man ....iv told the guys at my shop about your channel they all watch to....thanks for showing what you know were all kind of new at HDR so any pointers help us out....thanks
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It seems like the manufacturers nowadays are engineering their products to fail and cause customers to pay more for parts and labor at regular intervals
Ok so here in the UK we have had some trouble VAG group diesel cars throwing over boost codes down to a bit of wear in the turbo veins or mechanical part of the turbo, we even had it on a factory reconditioned turbo so we only fit new ones now
Guessing: there may be dirty contacts inside the turbo actuator. I'm not sure what kind of signal or feedback is sent to the computer. That turbo looked fine and the actuator travel seemed ok.
It'd still be nice to know what causes the computer to throw a code. I'm guessing it'd have something to do with either the travel distance out of range or time to travel stop to stop with a given voltage, too fast too slow. I'll bet you could tell if they'd give you a look at that data in the diagnostic program. It must be really sensitive since you pulled a working one, reinstalled it and then a no go. Did you have to address Deere link not outputting code to the office? With the information you had you only recourse was to get a new unit. I can't see it could be anything but wear in the VGT parts because you cleaned it up nicely. Whats the odds you'll be revisiting the other tractor soon?
I work on alot of duramaxs with vgts and they get carbon build up bad and get sticky. I started using nickel anti seize on the unison ring and vanes after cleaning them up seems to help. Do you think adjusting the actuator rod would help any?
On the john Deere turbo actuators the link is none adjustable The actuator has mechanical stops inside and are none serviceable And the vgt turbo also has mechanical stops as well And over time they wear and this allows turbo to travel past high and low settings which changes calibrateded voltage settings setting codes
I have a John Deere 6190R 2012 with oil in VGT output and command center display shows, actuator calibration error, some times launch error others times not, I will have the tractor out work for some months is necessary new turbo?
For some reason I think I remember doing a calibration and it shows the travel values during the process and it has to fall within a certain number to pass. Honestly I hate these Borg warner turbos with a passion. The holset VGT design is much more robust with less moving parts.
@@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353 Just goes to show how por troubleshooting capabilities are on some of this stuff. The software development people dropped the ball.
@@chrisfarabaugh3235 Yeah, me and Pete were saying that exact thing, the 8 series troubleshooting and software is so much better than the 6, and 7 series.
Man that sucks. John Deere must really be raking it in by outsourcing all their engineering to India. Terrible company to work for. Shareholder value always comes first for them now.
Not many proper old school mecanics left nowadays only part changers, they are not bothered about the depth of the clients pocket, at one time a new part was the last resort, now they change everything related to be more sure about hitting the faulty item. And far too many electronic gismos on vehicles not just cars and trucks.
They gotta comply with emissions somehow... either use a VGT or use twin turbos which is better for emissions but costs 3x the price of a VGT set up and takes up 4x the space of a VGT I’ve only seen a few twin turbo diesels in my time because I work on equipment but I’ve seen a few Internationals with Cat C15 twin turbo engines
@@steve57912 mine is not really a flail. its a drum with teeth on it seems to be something to grind a road or a field. When its driven by my 3pt hitch PTO it runs backwards, so its something that should go on the front of a tractor and be pushed. Thanks for the info though.
Not burnt to the ground, Hmmm just had rist pin keeper let go once then had know oil pressure with high volume oil pump, drove 2000 miles in middle of nowhere land did have pressure after bit, with 1/4 inch cut made with pin made it home just don't understand
Have a newer Deere 544k loader with the 6068. Turbo actuator failed, JD change the whole turbo under warranty. Tech said they quit messing with the actuators and rather swap whole turbos. Emissions kill these tractors.
@@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353 Good to know, they seem to troublesome. Sounds like it'll fail again and I'd rather do the actuator than whole turbo. Seems the dealer is taking the easy way out. Great videos Warren!
I worked on a 6140r throwing a vgt code i cant remember what it was but similar to your code and of corse it would de rate it. So did everything you did including putting a new turbo on and ecu fallowing all the diagnostics couldn’t figure anything out. Ended up putting in a dtac case and they had me running external wires straight to the ecu from all the turbo connectors. Nothing fixed it and never figured out any problems. Finally deere wanted me to run wires from the air intake sensor and while disassembling the air intake sensor connector i found worn wires on the connector that was the whole problem. But no codes what so ever about air intake sensor. So keep your eye open for that. It was a short harness that was a John Deere PIP. If i could post pictures I would post one.
Don't you just wish engines were the same as 25 years ago , simple and reliable.
Hey look everyone, we got an honest mechanic! Most mechanics where I live won't even bother checking an actuator they just pull everything(turbo included) and replace! Love the videos!
If you want to make real money in that business you have to rip off your customers. That's why the dealerships thrive. Honest shops barely scrape by.
@@cluckhead1913Luckily enough no ones buying new cars at the moment and they been stockpiled! Fck em!
MrCoffeypaul if no ones buying new cars parts prices will just go up they will keep making plenty money somehow
@@gregshearer423 Let's do a price comparison with the above mechanic and main dealer?
Warren ..I had 2 tractors in the last year that were the same deal .. let's just say I now have a spare actuator as well . . Almost need an actuator for diagnostics because it's hard to positively diagnose the turbo vs acuator and of course the new turbos come with an actuator. Thanks for the video
I have been enjoying your videos for the last couple months. Thx
I’m a field tech for Fresno equipment in five points ca. And that a is a common failure down here. The turbo is moving to far, it shouldn’t move more the 90 degrees from its resting position. I replace a turbo about once a week. I carry a actuator with me. And when I see that code I try the actuator and if it doesn’t calibrate I just replace the turbo. There is a new payload for those engines but it wouldn’t fix that problem. I enjoy watching your videos. Keep up the good work.
Another great video Warren! Cheers from Minnesota!
So great for the environment that we get to mine all that extra material and burn energy to make it into metal and process it down to a shitty part that needs to be replaced when a regular old turbo woulda ran for 25 years on an old tractor. Politicians are brainless
Exactly, they can't see the big picture.
Yeah that blows my mind as well. They might pollute less, but all the breakdowns aren't making them any "greener".
It’s an education every time I watch your videos Warren, keep up the great work 👍
Im so glad that u document these repairs or most of us would never get to see how its done,greatly appreciated
I had a similar problem on my buddies ISX he had taken it to Cummins several times they put on 2 turbos charged him up the ass still had issues so he brought it me all shit shook I hooked up to cummins insite went through calibration testing etc couldn’t find anything! I checked wires from Ecuador to control, bingo ! I had 12 volts on my meter but when I loaded that circuit with a light bulb voltage dropped down to like 2 volts ! I did an overlay for that wire problem solved! Didn’t make any $$ on it but I got a thankyou! Lol! Great video bud thanks for sharing yeah sometimes we get ass kickers that just don’t make sense! Have a good Sunday take care 👍
Black Smoke I have had trouble with wiring around turbos since Ford turboed the 2.3ltr in the mustang.Good job on load testing the wires , that is a necessity when working with DC voltage over any distance, like in a tour bus .
Thanks for helping me pass the time in the deer stand👍
This was a very interesting one to watch .
I had problems with the actuator in my BMW, apperantly the turbo carbened up and and the electromotor of the actuator failed eventually.
Warren greetings from Eastern Ohio. I love watching your videos. I have worked on Deere tractors for over 25 years. i have had a few VGT turbos that travel too far instead of freezing up. Something that also might help you is Deere releases updated software bundles almost yearly. i dont know how many times that the problem with all the code popping and issue with the R and M series are software related. Keep up the great work you are an amazing mechanic that Valley is lucky to have you.
Hey Warren, thank you very much for your videos and work. You're the best out there.
I've had VGT's (of different makes as well) fail the calibration due to OVER travel. The cumulative wear in the linkage to the unison ring causes the actuator to travel beyond its normal range. I can rarely see or feel the wear, but its there. Turbo replacement it is!
Just realised why I like your videos . No heirs or graces . It is what it is warts and all. The truth videos of a hard working self employed man taking the world along on his daily jobs .
In Europe that issue was traced to the manifold. It was allowing the turbo to move and vibrate too much and destroying the actuator and ring gear
JD did a recall or PIP on them and replaced all the manifolds and turbos on 170 190 and 210 with beefed up parts
john cummins Why would vibration be a problem way out at the end of the manifold , on sensitive electronic parts ??? sarcasm is intentional.
I knew what the problem was the whole time yep it was EPA .
Great video Warren, I know you don’t have a lot of time but maybe you can get one of those large magnets like they use on droplights and hook it up to that tripod your using. That way you could just stick it on your truck bed. Thanks for sharing.
Warren....thanks for enlighting us to David's channel....what a character....humor is Benny hill with voices.. lol.
Great stuff!! You are a top 5 mechanic
I always enjoy watching your video's, dogs much be good because we don't see them much lol
a frustrating job but well done in the end.
watching right now thumbs up
Always something awesome vid
I was afraid you had lost your Snap Off hammer as I had not seen it in your recent videos. All is now right with the world.
Always a pleasure to watch and learn
thanks for the video warren
nice troubleshooting Warren.
We had the 6125R on our farm do the same error code and it was the VGT ring in the turbo. John Deere here in Australia recommend to change the turbo to the new updated version.
Great videos Warren...I do maintenance also, I wish I had your patience and diagnostic skills...I just want to hit sh*t with a hammer after awhile...lol
That turbo looked pretty black, like it might be leaking oil. It's difficult to get operators to let things idle to cool down the turbo before shutting the engine off.
Hi . Only problem with theses new tractor to many electronics . There's not much for us machines any more we are all turning in to fitters now . Carnt do anything with out a computer any more. . I still like my old school stuff. Look how much problems you had with that backhoe the other week. It's all shit now. Great video as normal just waiting for next one. From Andy in UK
Bravo pour toutes ces vidéos et c'est réparation
There is a dtac solution on the unison ring . I think it stated something about the type material it was made of wearing causing excessive travel.
I see the problem! That bad turbo housing is painted green! :)
Great video young man and with modern stuff going wrong it makes you wonder if all these modern very expensive tractors are actually worth it their cost value in the long run? Because you could buy a properly restored old tech (80's tractor for example) tractor for maybe 1/3 the price of a new one and it would outlast the new one. Many old pre 2000's tractors are still going strong in their original markets or sold into export markets as sued machines. I cannot see modern (The last decade or so) tractors lasting 20,30 or 40+yrs and then going to Africa or Asia for a second life. And on that basis you have to question the economics and "Eco/green" value of remaking new stuff. Still, if they didn't go wrong Warren would loose work and we would loose the videos!
There's a lot more going on via the can bus, feedback travel and load current, maybe the travel is ok but the effort to move may exceed the tolerances thus causing your error. This is a problem with error codes they are very generic and criptic. Swapology is the only cure here. Great video, agree with other commentator a magnetic stand for your camera or even a head cam😉
Software on these type vehicles is so tight now you have enter in calibration numbers just to get the ECU to recognize the part. A Mack MP7 I installed injectors in has to have each injector number entered in to the tool and reflashed just to get the engine to run.
Nice job warren those VGT’s can be a pain .
I have found that some times the travel is too great on the actuator it should move 90 degrees. You can reduce the travel by welding a stop to the clamping band and get the lower end of the linkage rod to stop on it and then run the VGT Calibration all should be good 🙂
Be nice if they would give you some travel specifications other that 90 degrees.
i have done the same thing with the stop .
Beautiful office Warren
ECU will also set codes if there's to much travel. Sometimes heat can change the length of linkages and go outside the ECU's set value. Sometimes wear can do it.
In my day in the workshop there was an oft' heard phrase, "we're in, now walk towards me"! [ Rude bastards some Aussies ] lol.
Momma said they would be days like this lol . Have a Hyundai doing me the same way now
AWESOME 👍👍
It's new deere. Good job security for you I quess nice work
Another great video Warren. Just thinking about it, when it is giving that error code, instead of a travel issue could it be a resistance issue. As in it is not moving as freely as it should be?. Moving yes but not freely. I know some things that can be an issue am wondering if could be for this as well. How the system determine's that is unknown maybe it is related to draw current or even time to go from full up to full down. I am sure there is someone here who is much more knowledgeable than myself who would know if that is possible.
This looks like a lesson to be learned, something is not right...find it !
Well I mean, um, that's what a mechanic does..
Maybe a grounding issue????? Thanks for sharing.👍👍👍👍👍
Could you change linkage length slightly for more or less movement? May trigger its sensor then to calibrate.
Dealerships are an expensive business to own. A well equipped repair shop is likewise an expensive business to own. Dealerships are franchises which do not operate or thrive on good will, they operate on a healthy profit. As much as they would like to have you believe your good will is the bottom line of their business, it is not. A fat profit is the bottom line. Guys like Warren are the guts of a business, franchise or private.
On my 9L turbo I had the same symptoms, turned out to be fuel transfer pump. Apparently they share the same ground.
John Deere love to make a simple thing & over complicate it, its a tractor with all the fruit, guess if your hauling all day in a paddock, some creature comforts are necessary, gee they aren't like the old days these units, slight hiccup & there down...lucky this gentleman is a good honest mechanic & in demand.
Hello Warren. What were the symptoms (besides codes) that prompted this work. I'm asking because I have an International 4300 with the DT466 that has a very similar VGT. It runs fine when cold but gets less responsive as it heats up. After a hot restart all hell breaks loose. Sometimes zero throttle response until I feather the throttle, then it kicks in but blows soot. Then it runs only OK and then sputters again. This condition persists the rest of the day. Your videos are AMAZING. Thank you!!!
Unreal.......not a dam thing wrong on that turbo....almost like deer decided ok let's sell some turbos and linked in some codes through GPS that wont go away until you buy a new one.....you dident happen to get the hours on that machine did you....I'm always curious what hours are on these machines you work on...great stuff man ....iv told the guys at my shop about your channel they all watch to....thanks for showing what you know were all kind of new at HDR so any pointers help us out....thanks
It seems like the manufacturers nowadays are engineering their products to fail and cause customers to pay more for parts and labor at regular intervals
Oh heck, we got a cliff hanger!
Warren
How good is that system that reads the codes at the office ?
I have a buddy that his company does something like that on OTR truck.🙄
Can you split one of the old controllers ?
See what makes it tick ?
Might be a over travel issue.
Seen similar on lehr burners
All that EGR crap takes out everything, turbos run for decades without that crap on there!
Yeah but anti-pollution rules
Ok so here in the UK we have had some trouble VAG group diesel cars throwing over boost codes down to a bit of wear in the turbo veins or mechanical part of the turbo, we even had it on a factory reconditioned turbo so we only fit new ones now
Guessing: there may be dirty contacts inside the turbo actuator.
I'm not sure what kind of signal or feedback is sent to the computer. That turbo looked fine and the actuator travel seemed ok.
Yes, work from the most likely cause on down....
Those connector points on the body seemed mighty loose
First the worst second is the best.
Jordy40Growing
WTF does that mean
Bom trabalho amigo
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needs a switch blade turbo like jpaydirt uses
Then you go down a nother rabbit hole whit the programing and emisions stuff...
@@Adam-bw4lw rip the emissions off
good and skilled field mechanic
There has got to be a hefty core deposit $$ on that turbo.
I wonder if it’s looking for resistance on the vvt cams and if they are worn out it’s not getting the right value.
Damn, not only are you a Mechanic , your a Damn Computer IT Man.. I think the problem with this machine is ITS GREEN ? See Ya Texas
Measure the travel on the new turbo and compare it to the old one?
I always real funny one I had to do all that that that was that one was a real butt kicker
It'd still be nice to know what causes the computer to throw a code. I'm guessing it'd have something to do with either the travel distance out of range or time to travel stop to stop with a given voltage, too fast too slow. I'll bet you could tell if they'd give you a look at that data in the diagnostic program. It must be really sensitive since you pulled a working one, reinstalled it and then a no go. Did you have to address Deere link not outputting code to the office? With the information you had you only recourse was to get a new unit. I can't see it could be anything but wear in the VGT parts because you cleaned it up nicely. Whats the odds you'll be revisiting the other tractor soon?
I work on alot of duramaxs with vgts and they get carbon build up bad and get sticky. I started using nickel anti seize on the unison ring and vanes after cleaning them up seems to help. Do you think adjusting the actuator rod would help any?
They look adjustable but are not.
Good Stuff Warren... Stuff actually grows in that sand ?? looks like a beach to me... I'm not a farmer though.
Some of the best soil in the world.
Got an email from Gandalf stating "You shall not pass!"
how come you didnt adjust the arm on the turbo that travels back and forth ?shorten it and lengthen it ? to see if that would calibrate it ?
On the john Deere turbo actuators the link is none adjustable
The actuator has mechanical stops inside and are none serviceable
And the vgt turbo also has mechanical stops as well
And over time they wear and this allows turbo to travel past high and low settings which changes calibrateded voltage settings setting codes
Part production problem? Made to crap out when hits extremes?
I have a John Deere 6190R 2012 with oil in VGT output and command center display shows, actuator calibration error, some times launch error others times not, I will have the tractor out work for some months is necessary new turbo?
For some reason I think I remember doing a calibration and it shows the travel values during the process and it has to fall within a certain number to pass. Honestly I hate these Borg warner turbos with a passion. The holset VGT design is much more robust with less moving parts.
It does on the 8000 series but not on the 6 and 7 series.
@@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353 Just goes to show how por troubleshooting capabilities are on some of this stuff. The software development people dropped the ball.
@@chrisfarabaugh3235 Yeah, me and Pete were saying that exact thing, the 8 series troubleshooting and software is so much better than the 6, and 7 series.
SHIT HOT MAN!
Man that sucks. John Deere must really be raking it in by outsourcing all their engineering to India. Terrible company to work for. Shareholder value always comes first for them now.
My buddy is dealing with boost creep in his Subaru. Its due to a better flowing intake and 3 inch straight exhaust.
I think I found a Subaru in the air cleaner today 😬
@@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353 no worries.....it'll comeout the stack shortly! 💨😁🤣
He Warren, isnt it the speed sensor on the turbo that takes it go bad?? Thumbs up, good fix.
That is a different fault. The turbine speed sensor is separate from the actuator circuit.
Dang that was an ass kicker....John Deere needs to figure out another reliable source or redesign the system.
The vgt turbos on these 6r series are a constant problem.
You could go to work for Deere and show them how to do it...
@@buckhorncortez First thing I'd Tell them is get rid of the actuator and Computer and go full boost,problem solved.
Strange tires on the back of that tractor. How's the log truck running that you did the engine on?
Good he's making 3 trips a day to the mill.
@@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353 good! helps pay for the bill, awesome work as always!
Not many proper old school mecanics left nowadays only part changers, they are not bothered about the depth of the clients pocket, at one time a new part was the last resort, now they change everything related to be more sure about hitting the faulty item. And far too many electronic gismos on vehicles not just cars and trucks.
Just what you need a VGT on a tractor Really? I give up, The world has gone MADD.
That was my question also.
They gotta comply with emissions somehow... either use a VGT or use twin turbos which is better for emissions but costs 3x the price of a VGT set up and takes up 4x the space of a VGT I’ve only seen a few twin turbo diesels in my time because I work on equipment but I’ve seen a few Internationals with Cat C15 twin turbo engines
This emissions crap is killing everything. Maintenance costs are up and reliability down.
And most of the parts sourced in China,they pay 1 dollar for it and charge 10000,00 for use to buy the junk.
This new equipment upsets me...
Warren, what implement is on the front of that tractor. I picked something similar up last year and cannot figure out what its called.
@@steve57912 mine is not really a flail. its a drum with teeth on it
seems to be something to grind a road or a field. When its driven by my 3pt hitch PTO it runs backwards, so its something that should go on the front of a tractor and be pushed. Thanks for the info though.
Most likely a power mulcher to prep row crop beds
Could the actuator arm linkage be out of adjustment?
i was thinking the same thing when i watched the video take 5 mins
Can you send the faulty turbo away to get reconditioned Warren.
Not burnt to the ground, Hmmm just had rist pin keeper let go once then had know oil pressure with high volume oil pump, drove 2000 miles in middle of nowhere land did have pressure after bit, with 1/4 inch cut made with pin made it home just don't understand
I would love to chat with you about a John Deere engine that I am working on
Wait till these tractors get twenty years old...$$$$$$
Don't have to wait that long, just out of warranty $$$$$$!
Need to get a Kubota
Warren how much is that turbo ,I'm guessing around four grand?
John McLaurin VGTS on an ISX Cummins were five grand+ a couple of yrs ago, them sobs hold ten lbs boost at idle.
Have a newer Deere 544k loader with the 6068. Turbo actuator failed, JD change the whole turbo under warranty. Tech said they quit messing with the actuators and rather swap whole turbos. Emissions kill these tractors.
Well, I have changed probably a hundred actuators with success, this is the first one I've had this issue with.
@@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353 Good to know, they seem to troublesome. Sounds like it'll fail again and I'd rather do the actuator than whole turbo. Seems the dealer is taking the easy way out. Great videos Warren!
I worked on a 6140r throwing a vgt code i cant remember what it was but similar to your code and of corse it would de rate it. So did everything you did including putting a new turbo on and ecu fallowing all the diagnostics couldn’t figure anything out. Ended up putting in a dtac case and they had me running external wires straight to the ecu from all the turbo connectors. Nothing fixed it and never figured out any problems. Finally deere wanted me to run wires from the air intake sensor and while disassembling the air intake sensor connector i found worn wires on the connector that was the whole problem. But no codes what so ever about air intake sensor. So keep your eye open for that. It was a short harness that was a John Deere PIP. If i could post pictures I would post one.
That's good to know 👍. I'm sure it will happen again.