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- Kobe Bryant was recently interviewed with a handful of other players and said that LeBron James has 'got to figure out way to win' championships. In his discussion with Cris Carter and Jenna Wolfe, Nick Wright illustrates why this was such an ill-advised remark, identifying a plethora of situations supported by verified stats where the Black Mamba failed to win in the post-season.
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Nick Wright rips Kobe for his condescending remarks on LeBron James | NBA | FIRST THINGS FIRST
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What do you think about Kobe for his condescending remarks on LeBron James?
First Things First: Cris Carter and Nick Wright kobe is an idiot he ran shaq outta town and they underachieved
He is right.
Underachieved? Kobe won just as much rings in 3 years as lebron got in his entire career pal.
What Kobe is telling Lebron is that you have nothing left to prove to the NBA, the only way that you will solidify your place in NBA history is to get as close to 6 NBA Championships as possible. If you want to get more rings then you will have to do what you have to do for you. It is time for Lebron to be selfish and be a one man wrecking crew, Lebron has the chance to be the greatest ever in the history of mankind to be the BEST there is, was, and ever will be
First Things First: Cris Carter and Nick Wright If MJ & LeBron have a kid= Kobe😂
Y’all really attacking a man for his philosophy 😂
BSOLZ now days they gotta try to destroy another to get credibility
BSOLZ honestly none of us got the answers
BSOLZ make a video on this
Kobe tryna build himself up and tear LeBron down, look at his twitter nonsense and read howard becks article on bleacher report
Still scoffed at Lebron's acheievements
Then this dude Nick Write took offense like Kobe was talking about his momma. What a Kobe hater this dude is.
He's not a Kobe Hater... he's just Bronsexual
@@EchoDeltaSierra8 he's definitely a Kobe hater. Prolly cause Kobe gave his wife a pounding lol
@@kevinbunn7915 LoL 😁 😂
He’s not a Kobe hater, he’s just speaking facts. People are so emotionally attached to Kobe that they fail to see everything else in between.
zax the hooper and how is he better than Lebron?
Who’s here after his death
rip
Rip
Kobe just doesn't want players to make up excuses for not winning.
Yup.
He made excuses for not winning... And demanded a trade
The Lakers traded Caron Butler for Kwame Brown, and Lamar Odom was a very inconsistent #2 player and scorer. Kobe felt like the Lakers were content with him scoring a bunch of points, while the team barely made the playoffs in a tough Western Conference. Nobody could ever question Kobe's toughness, dedication, intensity towards winning.
Matches Malone yes they can... He literally drove Shaq out of town wen they could have won at least 2 or 3more championships together... Then he signed a huge contract wen he was out of his prime wen the lakers could have used some of that money to sign better free agents... Even in the series wen they were up 3 1 against the the suns, in game 7 Kobe literally stop shooting the ball in the second half to try and prove a point... Kobe has definitely showed some selfish ways in his career... Stop it with this false narrative.... He was only ok with winning when it was viewed as him being the reason his team won
513OVA EVERYTHING Shaq told the GM he wanted 30million a season and the GM said he’s riding with the 25 year old not the 32 year old! & Kobe won 2 more rings lol people jus say anything I swear
I swear Kobe needs to come on this show and put nick in his place
Jonathan lopez I want Brian Scalabrine to come back and own Nick I'm this discussion
Well that's never gonna happen now dear Jonathan lopez...
@@SportGamingComputing sadly rip
Nick wright is really hurt 😭😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Brandon Jones this needs a few more emojis. We didn’t see the first 90
Thomas Clark 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. There you go fam
Brandon Jones But he ain't lying!
@@akvalues James has better stats than Kobe but kobe but kobe knows how to win champions,he figured it out.
@@garthleysmikle2764 lol!!!
Chris how you grew up loving kobe and you older than him?
He means as a young adult
Yeah that was kinda funny 😂😂😂😂😂
This guy must’ve tried to get an autograph from Kobe and Kobe turned him down
Good one. You're smart
Hilarious 😂😭🤣 Lol ! I love it . They can't handle the truth and that's what Kobe brings ! Kobe Bryant was a beast!
@King James .. Lol 😂🤣 , Your name speaks for your level fandom huh ? Kobe doesn't need for me or anyone else to defend him or his career because his accomplishments speak for themselves real talk ! Cute though 😅 !
he's a stan
OG JLyric ... My heart is forever 💔 broken over the loss of the Great Kobe Bryant aka "The Black Mamba " ! I can't fight back the tears 😭😢 , Wow what a tragic loss ! No matter how you felt about him , you must admit his style of play and love of the game actually change the game in good way ! R. I . P . Kobe and your beautiful baby girl ! I Love You and you'll never be forgotten 💔 🙏💔🙏 !
Winning in the West is different than steamrolling the teams in the east.
Lets Build That App facts
Lets Build That App facts
True just ask Jordan.
outta all the teams in the west top 8 none have worst teams as a whole than Cleveland....no team has had more of a struggle in the playoffs than Cleveland....but yet here you are another puppet
Lebron could not make his teamates better. That would make him a bad leader and a stat pader. Good day.
It kills me how ironic LeBron fanboys are saying how insecure Kobe is but yet tear down Jordan's legacy to uplift LeBron
LORD KEITH the smart people who actually think about what they say aren’t tearing down Jordan’s legacy. They are comparing it to LeBron’s without bias. It’s Jordan fanboys who refuse to look at things objectively.
Jarett Bousquet Then how did the narrative of "plumbers" came about? You don't think that's a bias?
LORD KEITH wet about you. LeBron fans say he is king but mj. Fans like you class I'm as Jesus Christ. How you pray to at nites
6-0 finals and 3-6 finals thats objective right?
Im late but Kobe averaged 30+ppg in playoff series 6 different seasons 🤦♂️🤦♂️ cut it out nick
He did, but the thing with Kobe was that he was one of those dudes where when it was just him, he put up great numbers and was great individually. However, when you give Kobe an all star big man and a top notch supporting cast of role players and coaching, now he'll get you to the Finals and get you a title. With a guy like LeBron, he's good enough by himself as the lone all star for a team to at least by one of the top 4 seeds and a borderline title contender. But when you give him that second star and a top notch supporting cast, it's virtually a lock for whichever team he's on that they'll be in the Finals at least. Jordan was like that to an extent as well. He was good enough to get the bulls to the playoffs, but then Phil came along as his coach and Pippen blossomed into an all star as well as having that strong supporting cast and being able to get the most out of them
Tyrell Miles lol what? Lebron plays with 2 all stars all in their primes for all 3 of his rings! He’s not winning anything without an superstar on his side! Kobe & Mike won 2 rings without an single teammate averaging more than 20 ppg lol Lebron could never
Tarrell Breazell lebron made it to the finals without another all star..lebron was in a finals series and won 2 games with Mathews Delli as his 2nd best player..so yea lebron is more well rounded and can propel a team on a playoff run
andre campbell playing in an garbage conference? The best player he played in the east that season was Demar Derozan 🤔 you can’t be serious lol that’s nothing to brag about at all that just shows how weak the east has been for years! Lebron has played in 9 finals he’s only beaten 13 teams in the playoffs that won more than 50 games! He also faced 7 teams with losing records in the playoffs! Kobe beat 25 teams with 50 or more wins in the playoffs (most all time) & Kobe never faced an team with an losing record in the playoffs lol stop it
@@tyrellmiles1467 Kobe better then lebron but Bron a better stat padder and more size to impact without a big on his team
LOL the East is so weak they had to make All Star Captains instead of East vs West.
Hahaha praise
Kawhi went to the east for 1 year and in the media became the best player in the league right away. #TheEastEffect
@@doesntmatter6453 if kawhi was able to go to the finals 1 year going to the east that should explain why lebron was able to constantly go every year. The only reason he won was because KD was injured, if he was 100% he would've had the same outcome that lebron went through
Doesnt Matter and the east this year was tougher then anytime in Brons career
@@reginaldthomas1917 using that "if a person wasn't injured" logic.
You could argue that the warriors wouldn't have won there first championship, considering the Cavs didn't have Kyrie and love.
Injuries happen, and the better team won.
You could apply that towards any sport or team.
What If Oladipo wasn't injured this year, Kyrie and Hayward last year, etc etc
Of course Nick Wright was going to come at Kobe for saying anything about LeBron that wasn't a glowing compliment. I don't disagree with anything Kobe said. This doesn't take away from the things that Lebron is great at, its just real talk that provides advice on how an already excellent player can improve.
CJ Chewjore what makes it's bad is everything he said about Shaq and Kobe is literally BS. Did he not watch their interview
Nick stated facts and called out hypocrisy. He's not hating, Nick is exercising honest journalism, a skill often forgotten these days.
You1337Noob what is facts to you???
You1337Noob he's biased actually
I can't stand Nick and I agree with him here. And I'm a Laker fan that loves Kobe. I'm sorry, but doing less as Kobe put it is wrong. How many times did LeBron shoot in game 4? It was very reminiscent of Kobe's performance against the Suns in 2007. Both performances did not work.
I don't blame Kobe or LeBron for losing in those two series. The other teams were just better. Flat out.
BTW, if Nick devalued Kobe's performances in the finals, then I obviously disagree with him there. Kobe was not carried and he was pretty much 1B to Shaq. Both were great. I agree with everything else though.
How can u compare when Kobe was playing in the west and Lebron in the east? LMAO
Why Nick Wright always knocking Kobe 🤦🏽♂️
Truth hurts eh?
He mad that numerous people (especially former nba players) pick kobe over LeBum
Tre Campbell now that he died he trying to show fake love
Kobe deserves to be more respected than this. He's a legend
But Kobe lying is the problem. His best does not compare to LeBron's middle of the pack
Their style of play is different, and so are their personas. I think Kobe was the more entertaining player, and came off a lot more fearless and tough. That resonates more with people, than LeBron's very impressive stats, and dominance in a weak Eastern Conference.
Spencer Gray lol what🤔🤔🤔 Kobe has more scoring titles more all defensive teams and more rings! More 40 point games more 50 point games more 60+ games! Kobe is head and shoulders better than Lebron & it’s not even close
All they did was tell fact on top of facts
Totally agree but Kobe shouldn't waste time speaking on Lebron. I'd like to see what great thing Kobe is gonna do next like when he won that Oscar.
Kobe is a winner point blank period.
How old are you?
Michael Yim 50 win teams eliminated in postseason career.
Kobe: 25
Lebron: 11
Kobe is a huge hypocrite no all time great publicly criticised his teammates more than Kobe and then relied on them to save him in big games and I'm the furthest thing from a Lebron fan and I can acknowledge this
Game 6 in Boston in 08 Kobe couldn't find a way to win he got blown out and played terrible basketball
And in 2010 he was entirely reliant on Pau and needed Ron Artest to hit the jump shot to save him.
Not only this but if all he cared about was winning he wouldn't have forced LA to trade Shaq when he had another 3-4 years of his prime left to continue winning rings
franjes 99 don't forget all the clutch shots Horry and Fisher hit for him
David C dont forget if kyrie and Ray Allen dont make that shot lebron is 1-8 in the finals 😂😂😂😂
Every body goes after Skip. However, he is needed for balance. Between Nick/Chris/Shannon/Colin there would be absolutely NO criticism of Lebron whatsoever.
Chessbox09 You are ABSOLUTELY right! I've grown to appreciate Skip because the statement that you just made. Those Bronsexuals would make it difficult to watch.
I would love Kobe to either call into this show or personally come up there and see if they keep the same energy.. if you think Lebron is better than Kobe fine, but the way they talk about Kobe Bryant is down right disrespectful. Give that man his credit and stop trying to tear him down because you don’t like him as a person.
Athletes must love getting criticized by people that can’t even dribble a basketball
If I see Nick in person. On my word I. Punching him in the face.
Nick forgets that Lebron played in the east! Kobe played against more Fall of fames players, Kobe beat more 50 win teams, also beat hall of fames in the Finals, Kobe when he was “carried” in the 2001 playoffs he was 29-7-7 that’s what he average. Shaq average 33-15-3 so take that. Shaq faced bums in the 2001 finals.
Hold up Kobe won without a “big man”! Lbj never won without Super stars! Are they dumb or what? Wade, Bosh, Ray Allen, Klove, Kyrie ? Are you freaking kidding me? Kobe played with Shaq and Paul Gasol (star) not all star! The fact that the media don’t know this shows how much they “KNOW” basketball.
I hate Nick wright!! Aka the penguin!
Chris Williams nick Wright is what you get when the Dweeby skinny kid that got picked on and beat up everyday grows up. That's why he keeps mancrushing on LeBron who is not great and wants to be great....he relates
Alan Lee spot on!
James stats dont win championships.
@Melvin Creddle No he needed 14 all stars to win 3. Kobe needed 6 or 7 while MJ needed 6
Bruv u hating on Lebron legacy simply just hatred he is the best in the NBA now simple!!.
@@franknice187 Bronsexual
Melvin Creddle 3 out of 16.
Laker Cipote 🤣🤣🤣🤣ok!!
Nick wright 70% nose 30% face has the audacity to say anything about KOBE is insane 🤦♂️
When Kobe died nick wright was so depressed
@@khristionlouvatin6874 kobe might have purposely driven that helicopter into the mountain to hype his legacy, because he knew lebron, Durant and curry were coming.
@@Michael-tc1dmwtf are you even talking about 🤨
Lord have mercy, these guys will do anything to protect Lebron. There is nothing in what Kobe said that detrimental to Lebron. Nick needs to stop. Everybody knows Shaq was going down hill and fast. Kobe does not need your credit. If you think Lebron is a better player Kobe you don't know basketball. Lebron was never an equal to Jordan.
And Lebron doesn’t need your credit
please explain how Kobe is better then Lebron
When was Kobe equal to Jordan?
Triggered 😂
Derrick Lee I was just about to ask him the same thing... That’s the thing about Kobe fans, they think he’s on Jordan’s level...
Kobe in the western conference and James in the eastern.....that's all I got to say Nick
Just like how mj was in the east ? Okay
VortexFromFire The east was better in the 90’s bruh
VortexFromFire east was better in the 90’s...
VortexFromFire m.... the east went weak after Jordan left in ‘98!! Before that, the east was strong!
@@bilalmalik2315 exactly basical the 90's east was today's west. Every team was a monster.
Lebron played in the east, what happened the first year he played in the west ? Not in the playoffs 🤷🏻♂️
5 out of 7 >>> 3 out of 9.
So you ain't gonna mention that half the Lakers squad was injured? Ight...
@Kenneth Erickson yeah of course you still gotta play...just without oh ya know the best player in the world and the starting point guard
With shaq
This point needs to be brought up way more
RunDa Mic did he miss half the season ? He missed what ? 16-17 games.
Y’all acting like he only played 5 games out of 82 😂
Shaq needed a good SG to win... Kobe wanted to win ... Not pad stats... Like damm..... I never saw in any sport where failure symbolizes greatness.... More people that played the game says Kobe was better... LARRY BIRD SAID LIEBRON WAS GREAT. BUT IF I WANT TO WIN I'M GOING WITH KOBE... JUST FACTS
If we talking star Westbrook make Lebron look like trash
@@ericevans2503 I tell people all the time... at the end of the day. The only stat that matters in winning a game is points. I'm not saying other STATS don't matter... But if you average a triple double and get swept in the finals I ask... if you sacrifice some of those rebounds you sag off DEFENCE to get or bot holding the ball until you see an easy ASSIST and turn those in to points You may not be 3-6 in the finals. After all. The win goes to the "TEAM" that scored the most points... Not the team with the "PLAYER" With the best STATS
Kobe never won without a dominant big? Shaq who was the best in the world at the time and Pau who was seen at the time as a top 3 PF/C. Your own argument is flawed. Also Kobe has a lower win/loss ratio then LeBron, and LeBron has played less seasons
@@wakoblank how
And liebron played less seasons by 3 and still trying make superteams to win.. Kobe will not be know for how much help he needed. FACTS
@@wakoblank and yet lebron didnt win a title without an allstar teammate. Lol
you can never criticize Lebron is crazy lol KOBE is speaking facts!
You saying Smush Parker is equal to players on the CAVS this year. You just lost all credit.
and kwame brown... if i run into nick wright imma slap him silly the dude is worse than skip
And Chris mihm
Smush Parker haven’t played in the NBA since 07..
He took smush and kwame in the starting line up to the playoffs wtf
does anyone who knows basketball really think LeBron could miss the playoffs? I honestly don't think there's a collection of players in the NBA bad enough that he would actually miss the Playoffs. But Kobe? Yeah, Kobe missed the Playoffs in the PRIME of his career lol.
Nick... Kobe is correct
And Cris, how could you grow up watching Kobe Bryant... IJS
Yea I just heard that
Y’all said all that and Kobe just said he gotta find a way to win simple what does stats gotta do with anything
"Stats" have everything to do with anything!
No stats in basketball, would be like no weight classes in combat sports.
King Nate Sr. No it don’t yea basketball but Kobe said find a way to win are you stupid he can have the best stats and still lose doesn’t mean anything
King Nate Sr. No you’re stupid did Kobe mention stats yes or no what was his quote “gotta find away to win” let you tell it it was “he gotta get better stats” 😂😑
What’s funny is kobe didn’t play in 2013 from the heel injury lol... which is why they got swept...
He forgot to mention kobe going 33-7-7 vs the spurs in 2001(22 yrs old)shooting 51%... was the best player in the series with a prime Shaq & a prime tim Duncan and the spurs had the best record in the nba at the time lol...
WarMarchine 11
The guy is an idiot who doesn’t use actual facts, I’m not even a Kobe or Shaq fan but during their time together vs Spurs, Kobe averaged more pts.
1999-2004 playoffs
Kobe
28 ppg
46%
Shaq
24 ppg
54%
WarMarchine 11 BOOM
WarMarchine 11
2000 NBA Finals
Lakers 4 Pacers 2
Shaq 38.0 ppg and 61% fg
Kobe 15.6 ppg and 36.7% fg 😂
Finals Mvp Shaquille O'Neal
2001 NBA Finals
Lakers 4 Sixers 1
Shaq 33.0 ppg and 57.3%
Kobe 24.6 ppg and 41.5% fg
Finals Mvp Shaquille O'Neal
2002 NBA Finals
Lakers 4 Nets 0
Shaq 36.3 ppg and 59.5% fg
Kobe 26.8 ppg and 51.4% fg
Finals Mvp Shaquille O'Neal
NBA Finals Stats Lakers 3peat
Shaq 36 ppg and 59.5% fg
Kobe 22 ppg and 42.5% fg
Finals Mvps Lakers 3peat
Shaq 3 > Kobe 0 😂
Shaquille O'Neal 3 Finals Mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe sidekick 😂
Davion Rison ok you got the numbers but did you see what happen though ??? the numbers don’t always tell the story . Did you just copy and paste stats to make an argument for lebron ?
Davion Rison Kobe got carried?
2000’s PLAYOFFS
Game 2 vs kings (46 wins) 2000
Kobe- 32pts, 4 rebs, 4ast (12 for 20) 2stl
ShaQ- 23pts, 19 rebs, 6ast (9 for 15) 1stl 3blks
Game 3 vs Kings (46 wins) 2000
Kobe- 35pts, 3 rebs, 3ast (13 for 25) 2stl
ShaQ-21pts, 16 rebs, 3ast (8 for 22) 1 blk
Game 4 vs Kings (46 wins) 2000 *
Kobe-35pts, 6 rebs, 4 ast (13 for 30) 2stl
ShaQ-25pts, 16 rebs, 0ast (10 for 22) 1stl
Game 1 vs Phoenix (53 wins) 2000
Kobe-26pts 6 rebs, 1ast (8 for 17) 3stl 3 blks
ShaQ- 37pts 16 rebs, 1ast (15 for 28) 1stl 4blk
Game 4 vs Phoenix (53 wins) 2000 *
Kobe- 24pts, 3 rebs, 5ast (10 for 20) 2stl
ShaQ- 24pts, 9 rebs, 3ast (10 for 15) 1 blk
Game 7 vs Trail Blazers (59 wins) 2000
Kobe- 25pts, 11 rebs, 7ast (10 for 19) 4 blks
ShaQ-18pts, 9 rebs, 5ast (5 for 9) 1 blk
Game 6 vs Trail Blazers (59 wins) 2000
Kobe- 33pts, 2 rebs, 6ast (12 for 24) 4stl, 3blk
ShaQ-17pts, 11 rebs, 5ast (7 for 17) 0stl, 0blk
Game 3 vs Trail Blazer (59 wins) 2000
Kobe- 25pts, 7 rebs, 7ast (11 for 18) 2stl 1 blk
SayQ- 26pts, 12 rebs, 3ast (10 for 17) 1stl 3blk
Game 6 vs Indiana (53 wins) 2000
Kobe-28pts, 10 rebs, 4ast (8 for 26) 1stl 2blks
ShaQ-41pts 12 rebs, 1ast (19 for 32) 4blks
Game 4 vs Indiana (53 wins) 2000 *
Kobe- 28pts, 4 rebs, 5ast (14 for 27) 1stl 2blks
ShaQ- 36pts, 21 rebs, 1ast (13 for 25) 2stl 2blk
2001 PLAYOFFS
Game 1 vs Trail Blazers (50 wins) 2001
Kobe- 28pts, 6 rebs, 7ast (9 for 20) 2stl
ShaQ- 24pts, 20 rebs, 1ast (7 for 21) 1blk
Game 2 vs Trail Blazers (50 wins) 2001
Kobe- 25pts, 3 rebs, 7ast (8 for 11) 3stl
ShaQ- 32pts, 12 rebs, 5ast (14 for 24) 1stl
Game 3 vs Trail Blazers (50 wins) 2001
Kobe- 22pts, 4 rebs, 9ast (9 for 22) 2stl
ShaQ-25pts, 15 rebs, 2ast (9 for 17) 1 blk
Game 4 vs Kings (55 wins) 2001
Kobe- 48pts, 16 rebs, 3ast (15 for 29) 2stl 1blk
ShaQ-25pts, 10 rebs, 2ast (9 for 16) 2 blks
Game 1 vs Spurs (58 wins) 2001
Kobe- 45pts, 10 rebs, 3ast (19 for 35) 1stl 1blk
ShaQ- 28pts, 11 rebs, 2ast (11 for 22) 2stl 2blk
Game 2 vs Spurs (58 wins) 2001
Kobe- 28pts, 7 rebs, 6ast (11 for 24) 2stl 1 blk
ShaQ- 19pts, 14 rebs, 4ast (8 for 21) 1blk
Game3 vs Spurs (58 wins) 2001
Kobe- 36pts, 9 rebs, 8 ast (14 for 27) 1stl
ShaQ- 35pts, 17 rebs, 3ast (5 for 13) 0stl 0blk
Game 4 vs Spurs (58 wins) 2001 *
Kobe-24pts, 2 rebs, 11ast (10 for 19) 2st 1 blk
ShaQ-26pts, 10 rebs, 2ast (11 for 19) 2 blks
Game 2 vs 76ers (56 wins) 2001
Kobe- 31pts, 8 rebs, 6ast (11 for 23) 2stl 2blk
ShaQ- 27pts, 20 rebs, 9ast (12 for 19) 8blks
Game 3 vs 76ers (56 wins) 2001
Kobe- 32pts, 6 rebs, 3ast (13 for 30) 2stl
ShaQ- 30pts, 12 rebs, 3ast (11 for 20) 4blks
Game 5 vs 76ers (56 wins) 2001 *
Kobe-26pts, 12 rebs, 6ast (8 for 18) 1 stl 1 blk
ShaQ-29pts, 13 rebs, 2ast (10 for 18) 5 blks
2002 PLAYOFFS
Game 1 bs Trail Blazers (50 wins) 2002
Kobe- 34pts, 7 rebs, 3ast (11 for 28) 2stl 3 blk
ShaQ- 25pts, 9 rebs, 3ast (10 for 17) 1stl 2 blk
Kobe- FT (12 for 13) 92.3%
ShaQ- FT (5 for 10) 50%
Game 3 vs Trail Blazers (50 wins) 2002 *
Kobe-25pts, 4 rebs, 7ast (9 for 19) 2stl 2 blks
ShaQ-21pts, 11 rebs, 7ast (5 for 11) 1 blk
Game 2 vs Spurs (58 wins) 2002
Kobe- 26pts, 4 rebs, 6ast ( 12 for 25) 3slt
ShaQ-19pts, 6 rebs, 5ast (7 for 16) 2stl 2 blks
Game 3 vs Spurs (58 wins) 2002
Kobe- 31pts, 6 rebs, 6ast (15 for 31) 1 blk
ShaQ-22pts, 15 rebs, 3ast (10 for 20) 0blk 0stl
Game 4 vs Spurs (58 wins) 2002
Kobe- 28pts, 7 rebs, 3ast (10 for 24) 1blk 1stl
ShaQ-22pts, 11 rebs, 5ast (9 for 18) 3blk 0ast
Game 5 vs Spurs (58 wins) 2002 *
Kobe-26pts, 8 rebs, 5ast (10 for 20) 1stl 1blk
ShaQ-21pts, 11 rebs, 2ast (7 for 18) 6 blks
Game 1 vs Kings (61 wins) 2002
Kobe- 30pts, 6 rebs, 5ast (12 for 25) 2slt 2blk
ShaQ-26pts, 9 rebs, 0ast (11 for 21) 2stl 4blk
Game 5 vs Kings (61 wins) 2002
Kobe- 30pts, 5 rebs, 3ast (12 for 29) 1stl
ShaQ- 28pts, 7 rebs, 0ast (14 for 18) 2blk
Game 6 vs Kings (61 wins) 2002
Kobe- 31pts, 11 rebs, 5ast (10 for 20) 1stl
ShaQ- 41pts, 15 rebs, 1ast (14 for 25) 0stl 2blk
Game 7 vs Kings (61 wins) 2002 *
Kobe-30pts, 10 rebs, 7ast (10 for 26) 2 stl
ShaQ-35pts, 13 rebs, 2ast (12 for 25) 4 blks
Game 3 vs Nets (52 wins) 2002 Finals
Kobe-36pts, 6 rebs, 4ast (14 for 23) 2blk 1stl
ShaQ-35pts, 11 rebs, 2ast (12 for 19) 4blk 0stl
Game 4 vs Nets (52 wins) 2002 Finals *
Kobe-25pts, 6 rebs, 8ast (7 for 16) 2stl
ShaQ-34pts 10 rebs, 4ast (12 for 20) 1stl 2 blk
This is all during the 3-peat run... soo where’s the carrying happening?
The fact that Nick Wright threw that graphic up kinda proves Kobe's point. You can push the narrative of "look at the stats" all you want, but if passing the ball less and scoring more is what you need to do to win the game, so be it.
Trey Evans This makes zero sense. The past 10 years, every single champion that won has ball movement and less iso plays except for the 2016 Cavs.
in the past 10 years only ball movement team that won was gsw, dallas and the spurs.
David Lee Miami had ball movement with Spoelstra. They had the luxury to run iso but they had lots of ball movement.
Tiny Island You're missing my point. His stats are remarkable, but think about how much more effective Lebron would be if he played more off the ball, which he has indicated he wants to do? Imagine him playing more in the post with a Magic type point. His assists would go down, but he would win more.
Nick Wright throws those stats up there and says, "See. Lebron was better than Kobe. Look at the stats." But just because you can do more doesn't mean it's best for the team. Lebron needs to play alongside players who have specific roles. Turning everyone into a spot up shooter, while he controls the ball is not helping him win.
Tiny Island So 5 of the last 10 years? Lmao what’s your point. Also Miami moved the ball a lot 🤷🏾♂️
Nick is delusional, LeBron lost 6 finals, obviously something is not working
LeBron has won multiple MVP's and been to 9 NBA Finals. You know the only other people to have done that? Kareem Abdul-Jabar, Bill Russell and Magic Johnson. That's it, nobody else.
Evan Wrenn he’s in the east
That's so overblown, it's not like the east is an all time weak conference -- if it was LeBron would be winning way more regular season games. When Russell and Kareem played there were less than 20 teams in the league.
Evan Wrenn the east has been extremely weak for the past 6 to 7 years combined with the fact LeBron has often had the most stacked teams in the league that's why he gets to a lot of finals but the reason LeBron doesn't win a huge amount of games is because he doesn't play at a high enough level he takes away from teammates instead of helping them
Unseatedtree395 Lebron has more everything than Kobe. Explain how Kobe is better than Lebron without mentioning five rings
Here after Nick changed his tune on Kobe after the tragedy. And people say nobody ever hated on Kobe 🤦🏾♂️. This is why uon have biases when working on national tv. Once u knock down someone, those words stick to u and yo name forever
Nick needs some knee pads. He really loves Lebron
vashthestampede11 he gets his knees dirty everyday on this show
You need some Listerine mouth wash now that you finish. You really love Kobe.
Its funny because Kobe didnt even take a shot at lebron.. he literally is just saying when i was in the league all people cared about was rings not the personal statistics of the player. Not once did kobe say hes the greatest, in the quote he just said u play too win championships so Lebrons got too figure out how too win more championships. And hes right..
lebrons chances this year was low...kobe doesnt ever mention he was shaqs sidekick..kobe really only led 2 teams to titles as the best player..lebrons done it 3 times..lebron has 3 more mvps ..like we can't say kobes better cause of rings..its all he has..lol...lebrons total career picture will destroy kobes when hes done and the kobetards who now savilate over the current LeBron situation will never watch when he does surpass kobe in rings..what a shame
Asmosis Jones he has to surpass Kobe in rings first
Asmosis - You can't diss on Kobe saying he only led 2 teams to titles while not counting the three with Shaq while counting BOTH Championships Lebron won with Wade and Bosh. Lebron is amazing. But there were many times the Kobe didn't have near the team as Lebron has. Lebron for sure has and will have better stats. But the "killer instinct" and HEART of Lebron isn't NEAR what Kobe had. Which is why Kobe SHOULD get compared to Jordan just as much if not more than Lebron. Kobe still went to 7 NBA Finals. People for whatever reason keep saying 5 is better than 3 while forgetting that while Kobe went to 2 LESS Finals, he still WON 2 MORE than Lebron.
Figure out? This ain't a math test, I would've loved to see him figure out how to beat the most stacked team in league history with the same Cavs team.
Kobe is right guys ... You guys are over analyzing his comments.
you are right...Kobe is boss!!
Kobe plays for championship and Lebron plays for his stats. That's why when his teammates not enough to compete for championship he gave up on them many times. Gave up on his city.
Most recent kuz pushing lebron to go back on defense, will happened to kobe being pushed by anybody just to get back on defense.
Lbj, get blocked by who? Cmon.
I would rather have the heart of the champion than stat of the champion, and if we want stats, harder or Westbrook have more triple doubles than him in a conference.
Nick you keep lining up LBJ stats next to other all time greats while forgetting that everyone besides you and Shay notices that he doesn't play much defense anymore. Kobe's stat line doesn't look as amazing because he was spending half his energy earning his reputation as an assassin on defense, hence the 9 times his name is found next to NBA All Defensive 1st Teams. Wake up dood, defense wins championships, thats why he has more than LBJ. Using the same logic you use to show LBJ is better than Kobe with those stats, you could line up Russ's statline from last season compared to any season LBJ produced but then we'd be listening to you change the subject back to championships.
ServeGOD orBURN perfectly put
Kobe is one of the most overrated defenders of all time, in the second half of his career he started putting all of his energy into offense just like lebron does now
@@cwilson9341 it wasnt no second half of his career either he was in year 14 to 20 when he slowed down on defense that wasnt in year 8 or 10. and he was a better defender than lebron obviously he could lock somebody down lebron had to block you from behind cause he cant keep nobody in front of him this isnt even a debate no one shooting 65% from free throw is better than kobe thats it facts
@@gradyjackson8517 Was Kobe the best player on that 3 peat team? Did he win any of the Finals MVPs? How bout league MVPs. Lakers didnt become his team till Shaq left or after he chased Shaq out. He ruined an opportunity to win more titles than Jordan. Shaq is still considered the most dominant force the NBA has ever seen. Those 2 could've sat in a place in modern day basketball that no one would ever be able to touch. But Kobe got what he wanted. The face of the Lakers. He's not even considered the greatest Laker. Magic is and nobody dares argue that.
Guy, you are making too many foolish excuses for overrated Kobe. Stop acting like Lebron has never been one of the great defensive players in the NBA. I would agree that he is not as good on defense as he used to be but name me someone who was/is a great defensive player while in the league for 17 years and doing as much as Lebron does.
Ok, Kobe has to pull up on Nick now... That boy talks reckless
M D he won’t do it but I’d pay to see that
Kobe how dare you hurt Nick’s feelings lmao
Nick been on the internet shitting on Kobe for years.
Is nick married to Lebron? The way he stick up for his man is crazy
3 way marriage with Shannon Sharpe
I wish my girl stood up for me like nick does for lebron
i think so.....nyahahahahahahahaha bron would love that bald make-up
Calvin Parker 5 way. Max Kellerman and Colin Cowturd too
Derek Matthews is majority of sports media married to Jordan ?
Kobe vs Duncan head-to-head matchups in the playffs: Kobe 18 wins / Duncan 12 wins. Lebron lost to old Spurs in the finals by record margin with a super team. Let that sink in guys
Tanqrae what's kobe and LeBron' s head to head matchup record? 🤔
So Cold not kobes fault LeBron didn't make it to play him in 09. Magic best the Cavs then or have you just now started watching the NBA?
Kobe owned Duncan.. Duncan only has longevity over Kobe and also a more stable team... if Kobe didn't get hurt and had a constant roster he would have even more chips.. if Kobe had the help lebron has he would of beaten dallas the spurs twice and warriors in 2015
Remember that I'm 2008 the Spurs were defending champs. The Spurs swept Cleveland in the finals just a year prior and Kobe ran through that same team in 5 games during the WCF.
It's amazing how these "analysts" and commentators always skip over this. From 2008-2010, Kobe beat all the teams that LeBron couldn't beat from 2007-2010 in the playoffs with Gasol as his best teammate.
LeBron needed Wade, Bosh, Kyrie, Love, and now AD with a host of veteran (and young) talent to win. LeBron also has had the easiest path to the finals for 7 of the last 10 years. This year he was rejuvenated because we added AD and other role players.
So I guess Larry Bird>MJ because he’s undefeated against Mike in the playoffs. See how stupid that logic is
I like Shaq but when was he better than Akeem Olajuwon?
2000-2003
Hakeem
@@paperboy215 long as you know who I'm speaking about.
@@plantbasedministries9233 Hakeem turned 40 in 03 fyi shaq wasnt very good in that year or the years to follow that as well but ok and hakeem never played with a guy who get 50 whenever like shaq did with kobe
@@gradyjackson8517 What are you talking about? Shaq was a better player during those years than Hakeem ever was in any year... Shaq was the best player on the planet back then. Come on...
Whats left out is the NBA conspiring to make sure Chris Paul didnt get traded there. While the league changed rules to let Lebron collude players to his team. Why not mention that??
Because Kobe played for the Lakers so he got the best teammates by default.
Preach
Exactly.... they knew what Kobe would've done with cp3....he would've beat jordan in chips
@@imabeast318 get real. MJ was 3x the player Kobe was.
Yea right. I guess the league made Kobe lose those 2 finals series also. Plus Kobe was locked down by TAYSHAUN PRINCE! IN THE FINALS! AND KOBE LOST! TAYSHAUN PRINCE!!!
dude soooooo disrespectful lmaooo 5 rings... nick still playing at a local gym against 15 year olds
carlos angel lmaooooo
and you playing 2k 😂😂😂
Nick wright another L
these ppl always find an opportunity to bash Kobe and Jordan.
“I grew up loving Kobe” Chris Carter
Chris' last season of relevance as an aging NFL WR was when kobe was just drafted, growing up loving kobe means he either is a liar or time traveler
Man this dude is a stright lie he is always talking down on Jordan
Don't mention the fact that Kobe in his prime had to face the spurs, suns,mavs, and the rest of the west.
Lebron is playing Ben Simmons, kyrieless Celtics, the raptors, wizards like come on you can't compare any of those teams to the spurs suns mavs.
Adrian Bravo so lebron didn’t face them?
@@olzdadon he got swept by the spurs
What did the suns win. What title?
On the flip side maybe not in his prime but in the early part of his career he faced the spurs, pistons, and celtics teams who had beaten them in the playoffs (celtics twice)
Gtfoh,love didn't have to play warriors
Last time i checked 5 beats 3
End of story
Kobrick fans are the worst
There are nine players with more rings than Jordan. You need a new argument.
so, Bill Russell GOAT?? fkin stupid argument
Much better debate would be Finals MVPs/times you were the best player on the team. Last I checked three beats two
This right here is why you appreciate greatness when it’s around. Nick has got to do a lot of backtracking on the straight disrespect he showed this man his entire career. He has made a career out of bashing this legend and now the world is seeing him for what he is. It truly is sad. Kobe was the better player and majority of NBA players and coaches have repeatedly called Kobe “This generations Michael Jordan” yet Nick and the Bron Justice league have tried to skew the narrative so badly.
Rest In Peace Mamba. Your legacy lives on.
Forever and ever
The only stat that matters is rings. Any athlete can have great stats. Ask Russell Westbrook. He has better Stats that Bron. Kobe won more and dominated a league with a prime LeBron James in it. That is the bottom line.
Sahaj Paudel 😂 😂. How old are you, 5? You don’t know how to argue without getting all in your feelings and calling people names? Does LeBron have that effect on you? How cute. Defending your little boyfriend brings out the worst in you bro. Not only can’t you spell, you reveal you have the maturity of a 4 year old girl. Actually, that’s almost an insult to 4 year old girls.
@Sahaj Paudel6 finals losses for your boyfriend
@@obi1muzik429 if the only stat that matters are rings. Then why is Bill Russel not the GOAT? OR Robert Horry?
Come on man... Kobe was a competitor on defense and offense... Was in the wild wild west... Stop glorifying Lebron
kataher couldn’t get out of the first round with out a star big man . This discussion is a joke
wtf? We just listened to the history lesson m8. Kobe didn't make the Playoffs after Shaq left. Was that team worse than the Cavs this year? What about the year after? The year after that?? What a dumb argument this is. The East/West were even back then and Kobe couldn't get to the second round, LeBron made the Finals 8 straight times with 2 different teams and this time with his second-best player being Kevin Love! Talk about rose-colored glasses...
@@xordus tell me how can LeBron lose a ton of games with the Lakers this season?
@@julienforletta7896 You're a joke if you don't think Kobe was a competitor.
Michelle Diaferio what did anything i said have to do with being a competitor. Just delete your account . You don’t have the iq to deserve to comment about anything on the internet . People like you are an embarrassment
Nick Wright is a serious Kobe Hater. People always forget those that came before...
You forget kobe got smoked in the playoffs before he got shaq and he got smoked after shaq left before he got Gasol, Artest and Odom.
3:45 "What did you do after 2007?" Win 2 more finals mvps and 2 more rings while shaq only won 1 more championship
Shaq is 7 years older than kobe
The 05-06 year Kobe was injured and had bums on his team. Shaq Miami team was stacked with talent. This proves to me that Nick and Chris don’t know anything about Kobe and the Lakers.
They are clearly over looking Kobe’s comment or it just went over their heads
The disrespect to Kobe is ridiculous on this channel. Trying to compare stats when Kobe didn’t have the ball nearly as much as Bron has had the ball. Lebron gets his numbers because he has the ball all the time just like Westbrook. Nick wright literally hates Kobe.
Robert Vaughn Jr because he always had a good sometimes excellent pg. If kobe had to do what LeBron had to he wouldn't have nothing close to what he has now
Valentino Strachan To assume a player of Kobe’s caliber wouldn’t be able to do more if he was asked to is asinine. People can speculate all they want, but Kobe did what he was asked and was successful doing it. Who knows what Kobe could have done being given the reigns to a team the moment he entered a team. His work ethic spoke for itself. People only slander Kobe, to try and further elevate Bron when it’s not necessary. Both Bron and Kobe are one of the greatest to ever lace them up. Point blank period.
Valentino Strachan if if if if if if if. 3-6 is not an if. It is a fact.
Kobe was a ball hog wdym and Westbrick chases stats to the point that he ruins the players around him making melo and pg catch and shoot players
LeGoat 23 Ehm this is exactly what LeBron does?
LeBron fans always gotta bring people down to prove a point
Josh Miles I’m not a lebron fan by “any” means but you can’t dispute the facts that nick is stating and I hate that guy
Josh Miles i think thats lebron side chick, or should i say SIDE NICK
Did you even watch the video, he clearly says he doesn’t like to bring guys down when comparing but that Kobe opened the door sooooo
Cody Menard Kobe is just saying that LeBron shouldn't make excuses and should find a way to win. Then Nick has to disagree with it and completely just trash on Kobe's whole career.
“MISSED THE PLAYOFFS” Kobe was hurt and missed 18 games just like bron did in 19’ but go off
Hoolllddd up y’all talking about how many titles Kobe won without a big man?😂😂😂 lebron hasn’t won without d wade or kyrie
kobe has been the best player in a championship team only 2 times while lebron has always been the best..and in kobes first 3peat, he was easily replacable by other SGs like AI, TMAC, etc..dont get me wrong, he was crucial, but was clearly behind shaq..dont even get me started with how much focus Shaq was pulling..much like how Curry is doing now, but on opposite sides
Vanzama Tlau etc like who? I know you don’t mean wade because shaq got wade once. You named a potential all time great that was ruined by injuries and another one who was blackballed out of the league. Yet Kobe was still better than both of them. Shaq was not clearly better than Kobe by any means.
@@sarcasm3605 im talking about their first 3peat..at that time, shaq was much better..and there were better SGs than kobe in 2000-03
Vanzama Tlau it’s not that big of a difference still, nobody is replacing Kobe in the 2000 finals
Love and Bosh as well
Notice he said forget the Finals
L. Asiatic Allah lmao because he doesn't wanna bring up how Kobe actually carried Pau.
DaevonTheSavage or how Pau and the lakers carried Kobe. Aka the poor mans jordan
Dev Wheeler when they carried Kobe??? And if he's a poor man's Jordan then whoever the man is Definitely is not poor. I'll take 6-0 or 5-2 before I think about 3-6
@@devwheeler6289 I agree that MJ's better and that he's the GOAT, but Kobe isn't a poor man's version of anybody.
Nick Wright, Colin Cowherd and Shannon Sharpe should start a new show:
The LeBron Show on FS1
Nevertheless, to me, Kobe is still better than LeBron. Period.
Bron is better to me period
The only thing Kobe does better than lebron is shoot
@@brianwright1644 and win rings
@@matthewj.c.2675 Dude u talking about rings Robert horry got 7 steve Kerr got five I guess they just as good as Kobe right
Brian Wright as role players yes they got theirs! Kobe is the better scorer and defender which makes him the better player
How is Kobe Bryant's opinion about LeBron suddenly about Kobe? LeBron is sometimes heralded as a top 5 all-time player, yet he cant win to back that up - true regardless who says it.
Since when have the other "top 5" players faced a team like GSW.... and won? Unfair criticism on Lebron.
@@kazimnaqvi6388 so I guess the spurs were trash with tony parker manu ginoble bruce bowen stephen jackson mario ellie david robinson steve smith robert horry they were just trash or portland with scottie pippen rasheed wallece damon stoudamire steve smith or the kings with c webb peja bonzi well valde divac mike bibby jason williams dough christie hedo turgohlou they wre trash I guess and a team with a guy who cant play defense goes cold from 3 has an inconsistent shooter in klay thompson a bad shooter in draymon green a not so good defender in kevin durant ids just the best team of all time and lebron lost 3 other finals before losing to golden state 3 times as well I believe he lost to the spurs while on the heat and dallas while he was in miami Im not going to mention the sweep in 07 though my man couldnt even get 1 dub
This isnt even condescending... they just want a story 🤷🏽♂️
facts.
"I try not to tear down Jordan" and everyone who had to suffer through this video rolled their eyes in unison.
Dont watch the video if you suffered so much, easy as that
Sebastian Carrasco Let me guess, you're in agreement with that stuff?
Travis Blair stuff? Its called debate, and yes i agree with what stats back up, people blindly discredit nick cause he is biased, but all of his arguments are backed up with undeniable facts, unlike someone skip, who you surely love, only uses subjective weak arguments that actually should be discredited
Sebastian Carrasco
His arguments are predicated on lies by omission of facts, and he has a job because he talks fast and has a high pitched tone when he talks about lebron james.
Jeff Aholics Please tell me which of his arguments are predicated on lies? Omission of facts, wtf is that, sure he doesnt always tell the whole story, but he would need all day to do so. If you were objective about his journalistic performance you would appreciate how he debates, instead of just blindy hating on him and trying to discredit him, because he argues against what you want to believe
These guys hate on Kobe so much!! Kobe will always be better stop it already stats are off because the game was different! You cant even touch the guy now lol
Kobe will be missed, Nick Wright will be dissed.
kobe played in the west lebron played in the east hence the numbers put everything in context
@ Mr level. I hate that they never acknowledge that.
Tevin Hughley. thats why i hate the getting to finals argument the worst argument you can't use that when comparing Jordan or Kobe they played in tougher conferences we would view LeBron differntly if he played in the west his whole career
good point bruh!! it would have been different if kobe is in the east
Did you know the NBA rigged games for the Lakers back then
Kind of a trash argument though because yes the west is more challenging but the Lakers is a far bigger market and has far more money to spend on players than Cleveland.
Why you ain’t say 09’ 10’ he won championships
Zilla Jcbl ok thats what i thought
Hey Stupid, he took kobe best individual postseason stats throughout his years and compared it to lebron postseason run this year. Kobe didn’t average more than 32.8 in a postseason so they right. Face it lebron better player
Hey stupid, the game has changed now, in todays NBA kobe would have field day and average 40 coz of all the 3 point threats, he would be faced with less double or triple teams
How after he ran Shaq out of town....05 no playoffs, 06 first rd, 07 first round, 08 Gasol trade.....
check who plays in the west at that time and come back to me
Very well put timeline.
Kobe best years vs Lebron best years 😂
Kobe 5-2
Lebron 3-6
6-17 head to head tho...
Prime shaq
Amount of times kobe got carried in finals is 3
Does Nick feel this passionate about his wife????????
M_Fari no, only 4 LeBron
Lol I don’t think so
He's lebron's wife.
lmao nice!
M_Fari what wife?
LOL Kobe still getting haters. Shows how great he is. Kobe is actually still getting compared to Jordan. Nick Wright is just mad lol that Kobe still around and is being mentioned years after he retired. That stat sheet don't mean nothing. LeBron plays in the east and makes power layups. Most of Kobe's stats is prob fourth quarter where it really matters, LeBron spreads it out. Westbrooks has great stats but doesn't mean he is the best...lol
Stevan Chase lmao Kobe been getting compared to mj since 01. Nick need stay out of Lebron's pants
Stevan Chase it’s like you guys don’t even pay attention to what you are saying. Who is the most polarizing, most hated on player of our generation? LeBron. So if being hated on is a major measure of greatness then he’s automatically the GOAT. Why don’t we stick to comparing accolades? Kobe has more championships, if you are gonna use any argument, use that.
Jarett Bousquet LeBron not hated he just not the goat
In your mind he's being compared to MJ💀
Stevan Chase facts
PATHETIC to compare Career Stats to ONE Post season.
I find it funny that only the media has this discussion lol When you ask people that play ball or have played, they always pick Kobe. But if you can't play or never have, they pick Lebron.
If you pick delusional kobe fans laker fans and media fan boys
This guy hates Kobe LMAO
He hates anyone that threatens his boo
just because he points out facts doesn't mean he hates Kobe. He said over and over that Kobe was amazing.
He was like this when he did sports talk radio in Houston, usually negative about Kobe
All of my reply was to Nick Wright
Allect Music lol and you lebron haha so sad
Loll kobe said a lot of good things about bron over the years but yall so sensitive about bron as soon a someone point out something bad about him .. lebron is great but his weak mind and cry baby mentality killed his chances of beating g state this year . Period.
Why I don’t watch this show anymore. Biased.
Why? You don't like to here the truth.
Correction on something. Kobe was the next Michael Jordan. He was the best player in the league for a period near 10 years, he won 5 titles (probably the most a player has won since he was drafted), scoring champ. All around player like Michael Jordan, good offensive and defensive basketball player, the total package...now people are wrong when they think that "be the next Michael Jordan" means that he must be better than Michael Jordan. That doesn't mean that. That means that he is going to carry the Torch as being the best player in the league and probably be a lot like Michael Jordan in his game, and Kobe, accomplished both things...
Kobe can comment on basketball and can comment on ANY player he wants to...he’s earned it,5 chips,first ballot Hof.
Nick Wright gets salty anytime somebody dares critique Lebron in any way,and it’s not even a critique,Kobe was giving advice.
All that stat padding doesn't win championships I think its time people start asking if Lebrons style of play is effective enough to make his teammates better and win championships clearly that hasnt been the case
jamm356 Thank You. It’s crazy cause if the game of basketball boiled down to just getting 40 points 11 rebounds & 10 assist to win championships? They think Kobe wouldn’t do it or atleast try to if it meant he’d win Championships. In all the basketball I’ve played Never was I told to go get these stats to win. They only push this because it helps LeBron get into the argument. I’m convinced those that do this do not play basketball and need to shut up, sit down.
Wow You're really questioning LeBrons style of play ? Remove Lebron from all his finals losses and add Kobe ! He (Kobe) loses the same amount of Finals , add Kobe to 13 Heat and 16 Cavs and he doesn't win a ring either ! Kobe just played with better teams and competed against teams that are no where near the level of talent that is Golden State or the Spurs 🙄
Tell that to Russell RINGLESS WestBRICK
@@ghostjay749 except Kobe did face the Spurs on multiple occasions. And if Kobe was on that heat team against Dallas they win the series. Don't bring up Dallas beating the Lakers because its different. Kobe didn't choke against the Mavs they just lost. The Heat lost because Lebron choked.
Uhmmm he has won 3 rings, I think it has worked 🤣🤣
I’ve never heard the conversation be Kobe and Duncan
nick Wright exposing that boi kobe, but R.I.P tho
Nick is only proving Kobe is better look at his level of competition not only in the West but he battled a the Talent heavy Celtics in the Finals.
Michael Yim True enough the warriors are great. But the East is pathetic Houston would have swept the Cavs the same way.
He beat them when they were old Kendrick Perkins was injured and he needed refs and teammates to save him cause he shot like 25% in game 7
shut up iggy hurt and bogart hurt and draymond bogus suspension. warriors were robbed by that suspension
Michael Yim Kobe was in year 14... and came into the league the same year as Ray Allen and before Paul Pierce
+Justin Ramos bandwagon talk
This is what I was afraid was going to happen when Kobe played those last 3-4 injured years. The media absolutely did a 180 on him. So sad.
I think I'd rather hear Steven a smith scream for 30 mins then watch all these amateurs on fox
Tell it all 2 out of 3 coming out of the West. Kobe took smush parker and Kahme brown to the playoffs. Beat a big 3 spurs 3 years straight. If you want to compare, in 08 bron had a shot at Kobe in the Finals. Oh ain't that's the year bron quit on Cleveland in the Eastern Finals against Boston. Nick Wrong and his side piece Krissy Carter.
it wasn't 3 straight years against the Spurs "big 3", Ginobili's rookie year was '02 - '03 season (won ring as a rookie) anyhow Kobe's teams beat "big 3" Spurs 2 out of 4 playoff series. and Nick is crazy if he thinks HE can say what KOBE cares about.
Shaq beat those teams
@@juangil9628 ok so 08, 09, 10 where was the Spurs. Because kobe didn't have a big 3 after Shaq, Kobe added Metta in 10. You sound like a bron fan. Kobe was something you will never see again.
@@juangil9628 and if want to get technical 2000 to 03 they beat the best of West.
@@trephonproductions5356 so Kobe went to work in 4 quarters against Portland and Sacramento and the Spurs. Without Kobe Shaq don't win.
Did they forget kobe won 2 championships after shaq
East Oakland yea.. With the then new 'twin towers' gasol and Andrew... Lock down defender.. Proper point guard.. Very good bench and an all time great coach.. Or I guess you're not counting them? It was kobe and bums?
Valentino Strachan you wanna look up they stats each round and overall playoffs in 2009 and 2010? Don’t overrate them.
Valentino Strachan Derek Fisher is a role player Los
@@valentinostrachan4687 Andrew Bynum was always lazy and out of shape. Derek Fisher was like Steve Kerr, a solid role player. Yes Kobe had a good team in 2009 and 2010, but you can't forget nobody can win without help.
Nick wrong is so in love with Lebron james
Billygnr2003 cuz he's talking Facts?
lmao, facts... no wonder dom2k killed nick wrong's arguments.
Adrian Contreras opinions
Adrian Contreras facts are Kobe has more rings than LeBron.
Billygnr2003 never talk sports with people that don't play sports
What good is all those stats without the end goal? Squat correction diddley squat
Very well stated gentlemen. What sets you guys apart from other similar shows is neither of you yell up and down for drama effect, you give respect to each other in letting the othrr guy talk and give his reasoning and lastly both of you have unique insightful opinions backed by not just numerical data but by other measuring criteria not thought about by other analysts. Keep up the good work. Oh I almost forgot.... glad to see you let her speak sometimes also unlike the OTHER show.
Stats all favor Lebron, the only stat that doesn't is Lebrons Finals record. Kobe played out west where let's just be honest it's 10x harder to win and make it to the finals. Everyone talking about how Lebron took garbage teams to the finals. The only reason he took garbage teams to finals is because hes in the garbage conference. The only years that Lebron has won (2X in Miami and once in Cleveland) he had 2 perennial all stars on his team each time.
C Sack dude mj made it to the playoffs with 34 win that conference must have been great though
C Sack also when Lebron leaves a team they fall apart and they can’t make the playoffs
@@______9484 Kyrie and Kevin Love...
@@______9484 Yea cause Kyrie was hurt then came back a monster into the playoffs.Love was a all star but he had to play a third option. Also, just because you didn't make the all star team doesn't necessarily mean you not a all star. When playoffs came, Kyrie was a monster and was back to his self. Love had an injury as well but some of those games he should not have played. Try Again. Context matters my boy.
@@______9484 Yea man sure did. Look at D wade and Dirk, they wasn't all stars and yet they were in the all star team. No one gives Love credit for sacrificing his role and playing with Lebron. A lot of ppl wanted Love to be in the all star game but media says otherwise. Love was good in the playoffs until the finals where apparently he had a concussion. Kyrie was dominating the playoffs believe it or not. Kyrie played like a all star then. The arguement I gave you was facts. RAGING DEMON!!
LeBron has all the stats in the world but that still doesn't mean he's better than Kobe. If I score 40 points in the first half but 0 in the second half how effective was my game? Bron fans be like well he scored 40 points and had a triple double. How effective was his triple double if he still loses? Stop giving Bron credit for losing
nick was fair in his argument here than in the present. totally different guy here