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- Nick Wright, Chris Broussard and Kevin Wildes discuss LeBron James breaking the NBA’s all-time scoring record previously held by Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
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I love Chris but Nick is just making his arguments look silly ! LBJ = GOAT. Chris trying to make it interesting he knows the true ! Keep preaching, nick !
NICK GETS SMOKED AGAIN LMAOOOOOOOO
imagine thinking totals is greater than averages
In that case the rebound champ
scoring champ
assist champ
steals champ
and blocks champ each season should go the totals and not the per game lmaooooooooo
bron sycophants are so weird weak and wack
Still love the guy though. Bron was the true genius child who exceeded expectations and is a good dude, period.
So where is Chris from? I googled him and didn’t see Ohio
Nick - “The body of work is so much better…”
MJ - 6chip, 6FMVP, 5MVP, x10scoring, x3 steals, DPOY, x10 All- NBA first, x9 defensive 1st in less than 15 seasons
LBJ - 4chips, 4FMVP, 4MVP, x1 scoring, x1 assist, x5 defensive 1st x13 all-NBA 1st in OVER 20 seasons???
C’mon, the body of work from MJ far surpasses that of LBJ.
Nick's entire bron premise begins with knowing any objective criteria has Jordan as no. 1 so he made a career creating nonsense arguments.
No one says Kareem was the greatest scorer of all time; he wasn't. It's always been Jordan vs Wilt. We go by averages and between Jordan and wilt Jordan had the highest scoring averages on the highest efficiency ( per ).
Where nick turned into skip Bayless was when he started deciding he would use half truths and outright lies to create an argument where there was none.
The extent it's gotten at this point is pretty pathetic; he picks arguments he can't win and thinks whining and arrogance will help.
I hate that we can’t celebrate greatness from a player without tearing another great player down.
They have to so they can keep their ridiculous jobs that they are paid way too much money for. I mean all they do is talk about games that other athletes play...games people, games.
I completely agree. Why do people have to step on somebody else so they can shine?
Those jordan dudes yah know….
because ratings
LeFraud
Not only was LeBron the most hyped athlete ever coming out of high school he also had to prove himself in front of the world with the social media era. Bron didn’t have the luxury of hiding mistakes. If he did it we saw it. So to achieve what he has achieved is absolutely remarkable.
Exactly the media will let you think mj had a perfect career. He played more than 6 seasons right? The pistons owned him in the 2nd round till they was old and beat up right? They say Jordan will be the best forever that's biased what if someone not even Bron come in and lead they team to 7 chips or more then what.they gone go off a stats like Bron. Oh wait bill Russell got 11 he's the undisputed goat then. This argument is so biased 🤦🏾♀️
He also had a $100000000 shoe deal from Nike before stepping on an NBA court. That sir in reality is the ultimate pressure relief.
Absolutely!! That's what I've been saying. Guy over delivered!!
Not really. He skipped college and had extra years that the greats of the past didn't have. Also, he played against soft defense where fouls are called if someone breathes on you too hard. He would have failed against the defenses of the past when flopping wasn't accepted as much.
@@l_2126 King Flopper will NEVER be the GOAT. FACTS.
Wildes: "It's hard to get stuff done."
Wisest thing he ever said! 😂
Wildes is an idiot 😂😂😂🤣I really thought he was going to say something wise and intelligent🤦♂️😂
😂😭
There's a chemistry to these three, and I think without one of them the magic is gone. Wildes is not just quiet for long periods, he has his facial expressions, and then with great wit and brevity, the punch lines. I love this show.
They missing Wolfe tho
It could survive wildes leaving. He's super cringe at times.
if jordan had this record oh my goodness we would never hear the end of it
I swear to god 😂😂😂🤦🏾♂️
If Lebron had 6 rings oh my goodness, we would never hear the end of it.
@@johnhancock1362 😂😂facts
@@johnhancock1362 if Curry played defense, we would never heard the end of it.
You act like we never gonna hear the end of it now
The fact that he'll very likely finish beyond 40k 10k 10k is more absurd to me. Its the combination that's insane
Exactly!!! 👊👊✊✊👏👏
44-45K
Absolutely, no one has dominated so many aspects of the game like LBJ. Its why you could place him in any team and immediately become serious championship contenders. I mean I still remember to this day those playoffs finals during his peak when he would lead BOTH teams in ALL the major STATS, win or lose jus herculean!
But because the game at the end of the day is best described as putting the ball in the basket, so MJ will remain the GOAT since he was most efficient at that and did it in volumes.
The NBA has made it easier .
@@nashyhabibu4881 I feel Lebron would have benefitted either going all in as a PG or all in as a scoring wing. He isn’t the “best” at anything. If he put up 24-25 a game and elevated those assists to 10-11 a game or just went all out on scoring putting up 30 a game and lowered his assists, it would help him as wild as that seems.
At 17:25 Seeing Chris’s facial reactions trying to keep a straight face when hearing Lebron played most his games with Ilgauskas, Varejao, and Mike Brown was great lol
Chris a idiot because he did 😂 lebron the goat.
Mike brown won coach of the year.....big z was an allstar...varejo was an allstar lol Stop and think b4 you type
@@CoachVFitness do you even watch the sport? varejo, and ilgauskas good really? They were mediocre. Mike brown a good coach he drew up great plays despite the lack of talent. lebron ran pick and roll action the whole game.
@@Eric-cb9tz I knew they were all-stars but dont watch NBA lol...fact are facts...At one point those two were amongst the 24 best players in the league...and neither got voted by the fans
@@CoachVFitnessvarejo was never an all star clown and big Z was an all star once truth is LeBron didn't have close to another star player on those early Cavs teams and if you think he did ur delusional
“He quit the sport twice”
Got me 😂😂
Which has it's pros and cons. Same thing with LeBron playing 20 yrs so far. It has it's pros and cons on both side of the coin.
And still won championships and raised nba ratings when no one could even watch the nba in 1999-2000.. Jordan literally grew and saved the nba from demise
I am constantly amazed that nobody punches Nick in the face when he says that. Describing retiring as quitting is bad enough, but when talking about the first retirement, ya know the one that came very shortly after his father being murdered, is quite possibly the most despicable thing anyone says in these debates. Like I get it, Nick has to try to perform his mental gymnastics, but the fact he is willing to sink that low makes him pretty much the worst human being currently working on these sports talk shows.
@@nj3041 THATS A LIE!!!
Yeah took 2 years off and came back and dominated……As per usual
I'm a Jordan fan boy and it kills me how much time we waste comparing him and LeBron James. They're both great. We got to enjoy Jordan in the 90s and we got LeBron for the last 20 years. We're just lucky to get to witness these players but people get too caught up in the comparison.
Hard agree
Bron Mid.
Comparison is the thief of joy
Facts man facts !!!
The real shame is the need to belittle one player to make your case for the other
No matter what you think of Bron,
rare is the child prodigy who exceeds every expectation.
The Genius Child realized.
@ShemShakur Well, it's not like he's Jordan, but that was unrealistic. Michael was 1/1.
Bron is a different kind of 1/1.
If he didn't push the MJ comparisons from the jump most would just enjoy his greatness.
@@IknowMoreThanYou he didn’t push them. The media did.
@@ShemShakur he was talking about straight finals appearances 😂
He is greater than Jesus
Dude am in high school i wish it was legal for me to get drafted so I get the record but I got to wait 2 more years
Watching two passionate fans debate the goat will never get old 😌
I 100% totally agree with Nick. If MJ had the record for the most points ever, this feat would be more historic that it current is.
Well yeah cause jordan had 6 championships and like 10 scoring titles so it would elevate him higher then what he already was
True bec Mike is FOREVER the UNDEFEATED and UNDISPUTED GOAT ever 🤷🏽♂️
@18:43 Nicks frustration and Broussards laugh @18:53 at the end 🤣🤣🤣
Gold 😂🤌🏾
Both are fun analysts, but their opposing positions in this debate are a clear example of why Broussard is, and has been for a long time, the best basketball analyst of entertainment news.
@@dunningkruger5823 😂😂😂
Lol on a real note this is probably the best most thought out lebron Jordan debate I’ve heard
@@thejuniors5345 Yeah buddy, you love a bit of Brou, don't you! Quick side note, Nick Wright started using the nickname "Brou" on his show the EXACT SAME DAY as he... (you try to work out the rest)
Age 38 scores 38 on the 38th day of the year this is crazy 👑💪🏽
But still number 2
To break a record that lasted 38 years 😮
Thats an astute “hood report” 😂
He end Kobe for all of this
@@Zaferino1 *39 years
Even after everything I just wrote, I still had a smile on my face at the end of this clip. This was probably the best debate I’ve seen between these two.
HOW CAN NICK KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THESE TOXIC LIES?????? WHY DOESNT ANYONE STOP HIM? A whole hall of fame career still separates Lebron from Michael Jordan. THE GAP: 2 rings, 2 finals mvp, 1 mvp, 9 scoring titles, 1 DPOY, 3 Steals titles, highest career PPG in NBA history, most points scored in a NBA playoff game in NBA history, 4 1st team all defense, etc etc) and all done in 14 seasons vs lebrons 20 and going.
@@MM-oj2pf What lies did Nick say?
@@MM-oj2pfyou are what they call a spiteful mj fan. Anything dealing with LeBron you get furious about.
That teammate comparison is misleading because all of his teammates were injury prone (Dwade, Kyrie, Love, and AD) the other “allstar” players he played w/ were on the back half of their careers. He has never had an allstar teammate that could consistently be on the court which meant he had to carry a lot of top heavy teams and bear the load more than any other superstar in league history
Kyrie was not injury prone
And if Lebron makes other people around him better and a great leader, why did Kyrie not stay and become the Robin like Pippen became for Jordan?
Because Lebron, as great as he is and has high IQ plays, he’s not revered like Jordan and is not the leader that we think he is.
@@hjlee6192 Well first off Kyrie did miss a lot of games during the regular season we all lived it. I remember wen he went bac to Cleveland it was like now he has a costar he can depend on than he starting getting hurt and missing games. Than 2 it’s Kyrie named the player that has won multiple playoff series and ultimately a championship w/ dis dude I’ll wait. Like he’s ultra talented but he is a headcase and the fact Lebron could control the situation enough to get one title out of it is an accomplishment. And u can talk about revered and all this other stuff all ik is everywhere Lebron has been he has one w/ mediocre coaches and at times costars MIA if that’s not leadership I don’t know what is. So stop hatin
@@Ballsohard_97 LOL he went to MIA with 2 All-stars in DWade and Chris Bosh and you can say all you want about them being injury prone but each time he goes to a new team with an unbelievable talent or brings in All-star level players and he still fails. There’s nothing you can do about injuries and I’m with you there but you can’t just give him a pass when he literally chooses to go where he pleases and brings in other players.
The reason why that record seemed less than the other records is because nobody thought it would ever be broken! It was so far out of peoples mind. It will mean more now that he has broken it.
@@ShemShakur So Kobe could had that as well. Smh
@ShemShakur no
@@ShemShakur but i assure you Lebron is a better player at 38 than KJB.
@@ShemShakurfirst of all 50,000 would mean he averages 48 pts those three years that he was in college. Not happening. Lebron still has 5 good years in him. He could very well get to 50,000 if he keeps averaging 30 like he is now.
What about the points Kareem scored in 3 years thru college while lebron went straight to the pros
Wildes just gave one of the greatest descriptions of LeBron as a human, basketball player, dad, role model and as the Man in the Arena ive ever heard. Someone out there please transcribe it so i dont have to. Hopefully someone sends it to LeBron so it can be immortalized along with this great accomplishment. it was probably off the cuff with not a lot of thought to it, but its worthy of his hall of fame induction speech. WELL DONE WILDES!!
The only problem I really had with James is he is all for social justice, except in China because that would hurt his pocketbook. Now for that part a lot of people would go that route and if he would have just remained quiet and kept his pockets, but he shouldn't have chimed in about Daryl Morey. Now for 20 years in the league and that is all i got (well maybe the self promotion stuff but that is the way it is today) that is an amazingly short list. Big MJ fan but if social media was around in his day, well lets just say he would have had to adapt his life a whole bunch, because I can only imagine what might have came out.
This is when you know niqqa doesn't care about winning lmfao. Down by only a few points but aight, I broke the record already I'm done for the night and the season 🤣. 13th seed. 2 game losing streak. Below .500. Bronsexuals funny asf. Luckily most are still sane since they still have MJ, Magic, Bird, or Kareem ahead of Lefraud. 😂😂
He forgot to mention that LeBron spread a race hoax
@@iwishiwasthomasshelby dude shutup
@@iwishiwasthomasshelby He didn't call himself Jesus.
It really sux that we can’t just for one segment not have a debate about who the goat is and just appreciate what LB has achieved. Congratulations LB 🎉
Facts
I'm just glad that compelling arguments can be made for both players, because they're both phenomenal athletes/humans that did things for the game of basketball that no one else ever has. Whether you're a die hard Jordan lover or team LeBron, just recognise greatness in both
Yea unfortunately it's a fabricated debate that we have too listen too everyday, that's the issue we have, he's great but he's not comparable too Jordan in nothing, if you notice the nba players says Jordan and kobe, but the media says lebron, I'll rather listen too the people who played the game
Technishon. Well put! I tell people that the GOAT thing is opinion..They say, "oh, I have facts." Everyone has facts. Just a matter of what facts you want to use.
I'm with you, appreciate greatness. They both gave us plenty to appreciate!
HOW CAN NICK KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THESE TOXIC LIES?????? WHY DOESNT ANYONE STOP HIM? A whole hall of fame career still separates Lebron from Michael Jordan. THE GAP: 2 rings, 2 finals mvp, 1 mvp, 9 scoring titles, 1 DPOY, 3 Steals titles, highest career PPG in NBA history, most points scored in a NBA playoff game in NBA history, 4 1st team all defense, etc etc) and all done in 14 seasons vs lebrons 20 and going.
@@MM-oj2pf what did nick lie about??
@@MM-oj2pf Broussard lied when he said that Lebron started the super team. Baylor joined Wilt and West.
Barcley I Hakeem n Clyde. Malone n Payton I Shaq n Kobe. Garnet n Allen j Pierce.
...what a big lie!
Jordan being on that list is crazy!.. Considering he retired twice, and only played like 13 seasons.
That's why PPG > overall Points
Per game wins, titles/champs, for assists, scoring, etc., every season. That’s what the nba has done forever. That’s why totals matter less.
He took the most shots in the league every year he won the scoring title. The guy who shot the most, scored the most. That's not as impressive to me.
Don't come at me with, LeBron could do the same cause I'll come at you with, Jordan could've played more.
Scottie Pippen said MJ only played 13 years, if so that's amazing considering he finished with 32,292 points...
@@John-yt8cl
Lebron currently leads the league in taken shots - only 7th in points...
Lead the league last year in attempts, no scoring title.
So, if a guy shooting the most - scoring the most isnt impressive to you, how about a guy shooting the most and not scoring the most?
the real reason that the NBA scoring record hasn't been pedastalized like other sports records is simply the fact that its seemed unobtainable so we put it out of our minds
Wilts 100 points per game is viewed as unobtainable, and is one of the most valued records
@Amir Khan
Wrong
Like Stockton's assist record lol just didn't seem possible
Stockton's assists leader is way harder to pass
Already forgot Lebron broke that record
14:20 “but thats what we pretend” well said nick
It's crazy that 10 years ago everybody said there's that there's only a few records in basketball that will never be broken and that's 100 points in a game Stockton's all-time assist record and the all-time scoring record now Broussard gets on there and because LeBron broke the record it doesn't matter as much it's just the media trying to diminish LeBrons light to make Jordans look brighter
Wildes had the best take on this historic accomplishment. Just wow.
Nick is the King of "What Ifs" when he gets frustrated.
The only thing Jordan accomplished before Pippen got there was a Rookie of the year award and 1 Playoff win in 3 series. LeBron won a Scoring Title, 2 MVP's, Rookie of the Year, 4 1st Team ALL NBA, 2 1st Team All DT, 2 All Star Game MVP's and a trip to the Finals without a player of Pippens' caliber.
@@cashmerej9665 What a pathetic argument lol.
The only crew that is worth listening to for this historic moment and analysis.
I love when CB makes Nick Wrong flustered and crushes his argument!
Chris Broussard: the same guy that said he didn’t vote LeBron for defensive player in the year in 2012 because he knew it would threaten MJs legacy…. Didn’t he say Bron wouldn’t break the record last night?
You mean Jordan’s legacy lol?
He did say that and it proves how sad the media actually are…… they have it made up that LeBron can’t pass Jordan and create narratives to protect that. The narratives sound good but with context is where I start to notice that Jordan stans are really just brainwashed
yeah dude acts all cool but he seems shady
@@swaglord1522 the most passive aggressive analyst in the game, I give him credit he really believes all of his opinions no matter what
He figured he thought it quotidian happen and it would be better if he did it against Milwaukee w/Giannis the other best player in the league. And it was Kareems first team he played for.
Shannon didn't think it would happen ...but it was either Tuesday or Thursday or was going to happen
Making this moment into MJ vs LeBron takes away from one of the greatest moments of LeBron’s career.
That being said, I’ll always love watching these two have it out.
NO. The Lakers LOSING, takes away from one of the greatest moments of Lebron's career, PER USUAL.
@@smalways2651 actually nothing takes away from it actually he’s set if he never dribbles another ball for all of days
It was Nick Wrong who brought it up as he always does trying BRAINWASH these new age modern kids on social media 🤷🏾♂️
That’s lebron Stans for ya. They want forced validation.
Nah, Bron calling himself the goat again does
Thank you Brousard for being an actual NBA analyst that's objective instead of a paid fanboy!
NICK, I APPRECIATED MUCH OF YOUR COMMENTS, IT'S WELL EXPLAINED AND LOTS OF POINTS.
I don't know why but I've really always loved Wildes' takes. Feel like someone who has greater depth than even displayed on the show. "It's hard to get stuff done" that's just a true and on point observation.
He's great as the Consciences Observer when Nick and Brou going at it. Just sitting, listening waiting for the perfect time to comment. Hahaha
He goes outside of the game on occasion. It's necessary sometime
"HE QUIT THE SPORT TWICE!!!!" is why this show is the best 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Does anyone know why he quit? 🤷🏻♂️
It doesn't matter why he MJ left twice. The point is all the pressure on greatness going deep into the playoffs take tolls on people. The GSW players talk about this all the time. Of course MJ who I really like never had a bad moment because he was allowed to leave and and recalibrate and those other greats did not get to do that. So, yes. I definitely think this shod be considered when comparing legacies just like I think playing under the social media microscope that today's players are should be considered.
LBJ is not the only player who doesn't get in trouble off the court. Steph and a bunch of other players don't either and they deserve credit for that.
@@tayinap4269 His bad moment is when he lost to Nick Anderson and the Orlando magic in the semifinals
@@tayinap4269 When you win 3 straight you can do whatever you want.
@@tayinap4269 He quit after he got his teams a 3 peat. How is that an indictment on MJ lol he did everything for his teammates
Nick's got a point...before there even was a Jordan vs Lebron debate... when we talked about Kareem's GOAT-level status..it was always the scoring record
Can I just say? I love this debate. I've been going at it with family, friends and others for so long. It's cool to see that it's still going and even becoming more and more a debate as it went on. Just love it. The passion from both sides!
Since when did losing in the finals become a bad thing? It's a good thing to win your conference final oh, it's a good thing to make it to the last series of the year!!!
@Casey Ray Harris. Esquire absolutely. Getting Silver is better than not getting a medal at all. Which is why I'll never get why it's a knock for LBJ in the finals. Especially with the necessary context about the teams he faced in the finals. All time teams. Especially compared to who the Bulls faced.
@@caseyrayharris.esquire489because if you had the talent to get there and then fail at the most important part is not what greates do. If anything, lebron gets a pass for most of his failures in the finals and still gets ranked pretty high all time. He had the famous melt down vs the mavs, faced an old spurs team, definitely two championships he should have won, the only ones he had excuses for was the two vs GS with Durant. Other than those, every finals he’s lost was winnable. And that’s embarrassing. He got to the finals so many times because the leastern conference was so bad. He ran around the league creating super teams and still you fail that much? I mean it’s just a bad look.
I’m 24 and I believe this record will not be broken in my lifetime and Nick is absolutely right, if Kobe or MJ broke this record everyone would be meat riding
Nah it's just you meat riding right now 🤣
Everyone is meat riding rn I don’t understand what more LeBron fans want
@@shouryasangam7956 not Lebron fan the point I’m making is NOBODY would be trying to discredit this if it was Mike or Kobe
Nobody is discrediting Bron, they just don't think he's the GOAT. PEOPLE are nuts saying they're discrediting Bron, because they think he's 2nd or 3rd best all time.
@@Jaypharoah06 We would all have the same opinion if Kobe broke it as we all do now the reality is MJ has a better average and would have the record if he played the same amount of games that's why it's a hollow record John Stockton getting more assists then Magic means absolutely nothing it's a longevity award.
That Jordan-Lebron debate at the end was pure content
Jabbar had only ONE 3-pointer in his whole career score though.
Jordan made Phil Jackson, Scottie, Tim Grover etc hall of famers/legendary. Even Jordan’s security team was legendary. Everybody who was affiliated with Jordan became a legend
underrated comment
How did Jordan make Phil legendary....??? MJ had no rings until Phil. 🤡💩
@@thomasgroh3276 how did the bulls go with out jordan but with scottie and phil.... penny is not so wise now is he 🤡
@@thomasgroh3276because MJ was face of the Nba and Phil was a nobody before Krause brought hin to the Bulls? Watch the Last Dance so you don’t sound stupid
@krump 7 they were one bad call away from the conference finals. Then Phil went and won rings with Shaq and Kobe. Without Phil what did Jordan accomplish?
What an incredible moment!! Year 20 and he has broken the record and is now the NBA All-Time Scoring Leader!! Congrats Lebron!! 👑👑
"He quit the sport twice"😂😂😂
2 3peats like it was nothing.
@@keithlee_
Sonics 64-18
Jazz 62-20
2018 Warriors 57-25 😬
@@keithlee_ now name how many all stars jordan needed to win a chip? If jordans comp was weaker then why ignore lebron has way more help
SOO. HE QUIT came back and won 3 more ??? Hahaha. THATS RIDICULOUS.
@@keithlee_ that's a lie
"I've been waiting to use that, for 2 months" 🤣
by only measuring peak performance, we are ignoring all of the hard work off the court that allows someone to be great for so long, which is a major part of what makes someone great.
Great indeed just not the equivalent of the GREATEST...
@@Mercurial. so if we measure the greatest by the greatest peak, can someone become the greatest ever if they have say...4 great years?
@@mikepanton Diego Maradona in soccer he didn't last very long but many say he is the GOAT because of his peak years
@@patcisz3474 I've literally never heard of that guy but I'm not a soccer guy, so I'll take your word for it
@@mikepanton Funny how they never mention when Lebron "allegedly" got caught using PEDS in Florida when He played for the heat. Maybe that has something to do with his longevity. He got caught that time with other athletes like Alex Rodriguez, Evander Holyfield, Jameer Nelson. Funny how a lot of those articles have been scrubbed from the internet.
Of course Nick omits the fact that during that 3-18 game 1. MJ has an injured wrist 2. In that game he had 22 points 11 assists and 9 rebounds because he put his head down and went to the basket, got fouled and hit his free throws.
Nick habitually leaves out facts to fit his narrative. Clever but no integrity
Nothing could even compared to dropping 8 points at your peak in a finals game while being the staggering favorites lol
@@MR.__G And nothing could even compare to defeating the 73-9 Warriors as the lone All-Star on his team that season.
@@darrylneiltanyag2487 yeah because kyrie didn’t avg 30 on 50/45/96 shooting splits for the last 5 games of the series which they went 4-1. He Outplayed the unanimous mvp. Closed the deal in game 5 on the road down 3-1, dropping 12 of his 41 in the 4th while lebron only had 5. Also hitting the 2nd biggest shot in finals history & the biggest shot in Cleveland history !! Now please tell me what superstar player has had a co star avg 30 ppg for 5 games after going down 2-0 in the finals? Don’t worry I’ll wait…
Yeah but since when did losing in the finals become a bad thing? It's a good thing to win your conference final oh, it's a good thing to make it to the last series of the year!!!
It wasn’t “that big” because no one ever thought it would be broken…give the 🐐👑 credit
Facts💯
Oh it was massive. He’s still not the goat but he’s absolutely number 2
Absolutely!!! 👊👊✊✊👏👏
^^
I guess Kareem was the goat and Malone was number 2 until Lebron broke the record right 😅
If there was a player who averaged more points, assists, rebounds and steals than anyone on the court during a finals series… how can you say anyone is better than that guy??!
Exactly!
Man! 11:11 till the end. Nick vs Chris made my day. Best LB MJ debate 😆 🔥 🔥 🔥
This is the best take on this monumental event… kudos to these guys!
Amazing people amazing take. GiVE Culture
It's not about the record, it's about overall achievements in basketball LBJ is everywhere. He litterally checks all boxes in basketball. Him getting this one is crazy
You literally contradicted yourself, the most achievements, championships, awards, accolades that's MJ not LBJ! Google him! 🤦♂️🤷♂️
@@ATS21198421 Scottie Pippen knows MJ more than you and myself, the most complete player ever is LBJ, NO Debate on that
@@ATS21198421Jordan had the most championships? Most MVPs? Most anything?
@@randylouissaint1636 Are you in the habit of asking dumb rhetorical questions?! Context was MJ vs LBJ because that's who the GOAT debate is between! Right?! 🤔 Or are you one of those disingenuous guys that likes to mention Bill Russell's prehistoric title from the era of 6-10 teams, one round of playoffs, & mostly short white guys in the league?! Modern era of the NBA wasn't until after the merger with the ABA in 1976 when the talent was no longer diluted! You're welcome for the history lesson! ✌️
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Scottie FLIP FLOPPED throughout the years and especially since he got BUTTHURT of The Last Dance he been licking LeBron bum just like u did now 🤷🏾♂️
Watching Nick Wright lose the GOAT debate never gets old.
It stupid considering lebron is the goat
@@Nobodyespeacialjustaburner 😂
Say it again Nick never stands a chance
@@Nobodyespeacialjustaburner the goat of 2nd place
Um I'm not so sure he lost that debate tho. He made one of the best arguments for LBJ being GOAT.
Nick immediately regretted this comparison discussion with Broussard 🤓🤣
Not really
Bron def was the most hyped player ever and he has actually lived up to the hype. That alone is impressive. Cus most hyped players never live up to it.
Pssh 6 losses isn't exceeding anything wtf. Boy you fools are as delusional as they come 😂
Peyton Manning of the NBA
@@dillonkirk9868 great comparison…accumulated a bunch of stats and didn’t win as much as he should have like manning.
The only issue i have against that is, I don't feel like he lived up to it. For me him teaming up with and not competing against his competition means he didn't live up to the hype, more like he shortcut-ted his way to it.
@@strmshadow8411 He's in a league where there's always been super teams compared to Kobe, Jordan, and Kareem's time. Stop this nonsense of "he should've competed against instead of teaming with."
The fact that he's a pass 1st kinda guy, as opposed to guys who were considered ballhogs, and yet he still broke this, shows just how great a scorer he actually is.
Any player that ball hogs as much as lebron and dribbles as much will compile stats over 25 seasons. He's Drew Brees.
why do you guys continues to spread this lie? lebron is not a “pass 1st kinda guy” that has never been the case. lmfao. you don’t break the all time scoring record by being a pass first player
@@leftbenchplayaa its ok man, its just word semantics. I think u may be missing whats being said by being over technical about your specific use of thr term without considering the specific context the term is being used in, but it doesn't matter. You're absolutely correct, lebron is not a pass 1st guy. Its just entertainment man, dont stress out over it
Bron is a bigger ball hog than what we consider iso players. The offense has to run through him often to the detriment of his teammates and success. He chooses his stats, and who feasts or starves. Creating offensive identity crisis when he isn't in the court. Dismissing the talent around him more often than not. Him being a passer first is a fabrication. He is a stat padded first. As evidenced with his shirt saying check my stats too protect him in another finals loss
Fact!... I've watched almost every game Lebron has played over 20 yrs in the NBA. This is the only game I have seen him come out with a score first mentality.
I like how you did that Nick! 💪🏼👑
Chris Brussard downplaying this achievement just makes my heart hurt man.
He wasn’t downplaying it. He spoke facts. This record is very similar to the rushing record. He congratulated it. Nick tried to make it seem like it makes him the greatest scorer ever and it doesn’t.
@@dominiquewilson And just like Emmitt passing chicago legend Walter Payton, Lebron basically is playing simply to own this record. Both Emmitt and James were well past their primes when they got to it and a shadow of themselves. I wouldn't be surprised if James plays until he is 40 to put distance on the record but he's still play purely because he wanted this record and nothing else.
@The Bean Chris always does stuff like that. They hate Lebron man. It’s sickening!
The truth is that it was never a thing until it was evident that Lebron could never reach Jordan's status as the GOAT so it is just used for that debate and is blown out of proportion. Good for him for scoring all those points, but let's be honest it all has to do with playing for 20+ years. Game to game dominance is what greatness is. Records are just records. Jordan scored more points per season than Lebron. So this is just a record of longevity. Period.
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He's 20 plus years because he's tougher and a better athlete than Jordan ever was or will be.
The all-time scoring doesn't matter because it's LeBron and Jordan. Jordan has better marketing: shoes, commercials etc. But Jordan isn't better than LeBron.
The face of Nick Wright when slapped with facts is just priceless
jordan has 56 postseason records ignored by nick Wright
nick would discredit kobe having the scoring record he's delusional and horrible
Those stats lack context completely. Even when Jordan left, the Bulls almost made the east finals. When LeBron left, the teams are always trash. Wade and Bosh where injured or shelves of themselves in those finals runs.
@@zk430 2 years after Lebron left when Heat were healthy, they were 1 game away from East Finals too. Wade was without Bosh and Whiteside. Two years after MJ left, Bulls were 36-33 before MJ came back. Wade already was a champion without MJ and is the reason Lebron finally won. Pippin was ringless (even on stacked Rockets and Blazers teams) without Jordan and never won an MVP
@@ricardolozano5356 obscure records. It’s like saying lebron has the most 25 5 5 games by a landslide. He does. But who cares😭 regardless it’s close enough that if u have either as the goat and someone gets mad at ur opinion then they don’t know ball
Dude said I’m going to drop 36 tonight. Invited all his people and then did it. What a master
Then scored 2 after and ended up with an L. Stat chasing
Two points in the 4th, and lost to OKC on a B2B.
He invited all people to witness how he will break the record and how they will lose the game.. ..
Yea in a loss which is why folks say he stat pads
Dude you didn’t think his team went along with that notion? I just hope that lost Dont come back to bite the lakers out of the playoffs
Man so great of this show to add Chris, always on point and ready to give facts Nick tries to let pass.
Lebron became the goat already
@@Nobodyespeacialjustaburner cry.
I love how Chris always has Nick’s number on this GOAT debate. Nick could never win against CB’s knowledge of the game’s history. 💪
It’s crazy how Nick always brings Kobe & Jordan into everything lol
He had to do it because he knew they would.
Crazy how YALL bring Jordan in everything 💀
It's called being insecure. LOL
@@Gus-xw9yn So that’s what y’all is when YALL bring up Jordan every time somebody say bron? Okay got you. Your the first to admit it 💯
@@k_dinero7965 Nick Wright is the one wanting to find out why Jordan wasn’t in LA when he’s a team owner. Jordan Fans have other fish to fry . LOL 🤷🏾♂️
All Nick stated was LONGEVITY STATS THAT YOU GET FOR PLAYING LONGER 🤣🤣🤣
It doesn't matter how long you play if your not an elite player that can score points at will your not going to break that record , Kareem played 21 seasons in the NBA this is lebron James 20th season an he broke the record, kobe played 20 seasons didn't break the record, Vince Carter played 22 seasons didnt break the record, so your just being a hater, lebron broke the record in less time than Kareem got the record so what are you talking about longevity Kareem played longer in the NBA than lebron has so far.
I love how you weirdos make longevity a negative, ya cuck
Vince Carter, Robert Parrish, Jamal Crawford, Udonis Haslem, etc all played 20+ years. Where are their "longevity" stats? Where do they rank on the all time list? They don't! So stop with the tired longevity nonsense. He averaged 27/7/7 for an entire 20+ year career. You have to SUSTAIN greatness for 20 years to achieve a record like this. You don't get the luxury of quitting twice! Not just 6 years of off the charts success and greatness.
@@lifebybill1326 facts
@@lifebybill1326 but yet Jordan still won more than lebron even when he did quit twice. I wonder how that is. Lebron is literally 40% in the finals. That’s atrocious dude.
“Hold on a second” is Nick’s plea for help when he’s getting battered in an argument
😂😂😂
Ppl on purposely not mentioning the competitors of MJ.
In that era, even Dennis Johnson, Danny Ainge, Mark Price were all-stars.
Comparing to LeBron, averagely Jordan played against players who had less athleticism, less size, less strength, in his era only a few can shoot 3s, big man couldn’t run the floor, no one doing handles like shammgod, no eurosteps, no zone defense. They played hustle , but were 20～40-lbs lighter than today.
When Jordan left bulls they went from 57 wins to 55 and Bulls almost entered 3rd round.
And Kobe said hand check is nothing big comparing to zone defense.
LeBron played in a way better era.
LeBron >Jordan
It wasn’t just hand checks, it was the Jordan rules, I wonder what Kobe thought about that 🤔
Lol Brou coming with the Cleveland stories was heartwarming 🔥🔥💚💚
Nick bringing up Jordan’s 3-for-18 playoff game against NY - a game in which MJ also was 16-for-17 from the line, and put up a stat line of 22/11/8/2/2 and the Bulls won by 20 - as the “worst” moment of Jordan’s career, pretty much makes Broussard’s point for him.
He had shot in the 30%s in the prior two losses to the Knicks, and game three back at Chicago was a must. 17% shooting isn't a good look, regardless.
I think Pippen bailed the team out with 29 points.
Nice, thank you so much filling out the picture and for supplying needed context. Something cool i just realized, I noticed your Danger Productions I.D. sign and wondered is that the same guy that made the most awesome Jordan vs LeBron debate video I've ever seen a few years ago, Yep!!! ( I've watched it at least 20 - 30 times). Recommend it to everyone I come across. I've been waiting on your update...please say its in the works cause we both know there all gonna try to make a major push again that that LeBron is the goat somehow with this. Anyways, major compliments on that video you made!!!
Fair enough, but the point is if that’s the game Nick cites as the worst playoff moment of MJ’s career, then it says a lot. Also, for what it’s worth, Jordan was also a beast on defense in that game, got multiple players in foul trouble and held Starks to 8 pts and 6 TOs. Was it a bad shooting game? Of course. But he still did a LOT of other things that day to help the team win. Pippen played great as well, in that game and the series.
Thanks. Appreciate the kind words. Yes, there’s something in the works.
No problem you deserve the props times 10 as far as I'm concerned and fantastic, woooo hoooo, can't wait for it to drop! I'll be looking for it! Your probably gonna hate me but i gotta ask - over a year/ under a year for the release of it do u think, any idea? Oh, and of course thanks for replying... so kind of you. :)
Great counter punch. Nick and Chris just laughed because he knows it's true
Look at little Nicky learning a new word! Good for him
Its not that complicated. The reason these records are not held in high esteem is because of media's inability to be interested in numbers about digits. Once a record begins to get into the thousands they seem to ignore it until someone gets close to breaking it.
Exactly! The records that hold weight are numbers that people know off the top of their heads.
But anyone who cared about records knew Kareem was the leader. The same will go with LeBron going forward.
YUP exactly and both football and basketball are thousands sports lol
I like how Nick holds it against Jordan for playing well and succeeding with a guy that was drafted by his team.😭 You can use another boxing analogy to describe that “iron sharpens iron” same for Phil, buddy was coaching down in Boca Raton some where before he coached Jordan.
I don't think it's "holding it against him" per se, just more so combatting this false narrative that Lebron had all this overwhelming help while Jordan did everything by himself...
@@amac9044Right! This goofball slowl
I enjoy Chris Brewsards takes and arguments. Also Nick Wrights. These guys are very entertaining and knowledgeable.
Best chemistry on tv! Great stuff
I agree with Nick on the fact that if this isn’t one of the most important records than what is. Idk what Chris was talking about
You could score a ton of points and still not win as much as someone else. Idk I think winning is better than scoring
@@whocareswhatelithinks Winning isn't a record. It's the entire point of every sport.
@@connor_phillipz5689 bron has done both
@@connor_phillipz5689 how is winning not a record? Someone has won the most. I’ve never thought of Kareem as the best basketball player.
@@whocareswhatelithinksthis wasn’t about who the goat and best winner is. The scoring record was the most important record in sports history that every sports fan knew. Lebron broke it and now it’s not that important?? Stop it
Broussard at the end gave a mic drop comparison case close end of discussion, he blew him up like spontaneous human combustion
FACTS!
No not really.
not really.
Chris came with receipts!! 😂
Nick is completely wrong. Lebron didn't do everything he said. He already forgot lebron said not 2 not 3 not 4 not 5 not 6. Where's all the chips in Miami?
Bru came with it for mike🔥🔥🔥
I HONESTLY didn't noticed the absent of Michael Jordan😂😂👑💪💯
I did notice when the GOAT was at the Staple center for Kobe Memorial that LBJ was missing. And he was a Lakers player at that point. Imagine that. It is said Kobe kind of was more friendly with LBJ before he had passed. LBJ had been there two years at that point.
Because you were not born yet!! Lol😂lol😂
@@franciscoarroyo9402 Just say "No"..
GOAT debate at the end was superbly entertaining.
A lot of people dont understand how much Scottie was a big piece of Jordan's success. Jordan was 3 of 22 shots in the finals but they won because Scottie carried the Bulls that night. But no one brings that game up aside from Nick because he's not blinded bu the narrative.
That wasn't even the Finals, and it was one game, a game 3. What other games do you have where MJ completely shat the bed?
Nick gets emotional, Chris was giving him facts!
It was the opposite
@@paulrodriguez2337 lol hilarious
This was an absolutely astonishing performance by Lebron which solidified an already extraordinary career. Even though I still firmly think MJ is the goat, to take anything else away from Lebron’s all time legacy is 100% disrespectful. Lebron has and continues to redefine longevity. Truely remarkable.
@BuzzinFromda4z LEBRON = GOAT
@BuzzinFromda4z so you thought he was the goat as soon as he entered the league? Whatever you say.
@BuzzinFromda4z does Lebron get a pass against the stacked teams he faced in the finals when it was him against 2-4 other all stars or no? Because if he does, y’all Lebron nut huggers shouldn’t count it against Jordan when it was him again Bird, parish and mchale.
@BuzzinFromda4z oh brother, are you 12.
Mj is still 🐐
Having a losing finals record definitely takes away from this record.
What's crazy about this is Kareem got that score without ever making a 3.
Kareem made just one 3, but yes to your point it was amazing!
So take out 2300 points from Lebron but transform the 5000 more assists he made over Kareem into his baskets , easily scored in at list 50% (still considering no 3's). So already 2500 more points. And he hasn't finished yet...Noither scoring nor assisting. Facts
@@ProgettoMemoria Oh, math! I love it. But since you bring up an unrelated stat, lets figure out where the 2500 turnovers, 7000 rebounds, 1500 blocks differentials come in this equation...
@@arguseyed9982 assists are real points. The rest we don't know exactly what brought to direct points.
Assists are related...
@@ProgettoMemoria Give me break. Most of the assists are just a simple pass, the rest is up to the scorer.
Nick Wright's spirit is CRUSHED. He has no valid arguments and always tryna interrupt when the truth comes out. I LOVE IT!!! Lmao
Nick: “If you say he locked down the era…”
😂
He was gonna go off on that one lmao.
He did.
Yeah he locked downed💩Everyone won during Lebron😂Even team with solo superstar
@@upfront2375 Do you think Jordan only played 6 years? isaiah, larry, magic, hakeem, kobe, shaq, tim, robinson all won when MJ was active also....
@@jon401 Isaiah larry and magic are the only legit ones on there. Hakeem got his when he jordan wasn't there i think and anything after 98 seems like a stretch.
Crazy how this show is better when they are talking through screen instead of being in the studio
Love love love these guys and their arguments. Right up there with Skip & Shannon. First Take is 3rd in my book.
Congratulations to a really gifted athlete 👏
Man what a game to get there as well...shot out to my Ohio Brethren Bron Bron...wow...we're very proud of you!
Nick bringing up Chris's Jay-Z argument is perfection
Winning is about Points + Rebounds - Field Goal Attempts
1. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (17.7)
2. Lebron James (15.0)
3. Michael Jordan (13.4)
Nick Wright is a treasure!!
Yeah a treasure troll
You need a father figure
😂😂😂😂
Yeah biggest casual treasure ever
of being delusional
"Karl Malone is 3rd in most points scored and he's no where near the top 10"... CB is the truth teller!
The reason this record was never looked at because NOBODY thought it would ever be broken
Karl Malone could have easily broken it if he really wanted it, but he cared more about trying for an elusive title than limping to an individual record...
@@OlJackBurton if karl came out as a high schooler instead of from college like everyone else, he'd have smoked the record like lebron.
Tiger Woods was more hyped. He was on tv at age 2! And he lived up to all of it and more.
“He’s done everything he set out to do!”
I remember “Not two, not three, not four, not five, not six.”
LOL 🤣
Is he still playing Miami?
@@gutikonga7161 nope he in La fighting for a play in spot
@@gutikonga7161 No. He decided to leave the most competent franchise he’s ever been with
He got 4 rings. He A Billionaire homie. Keep Hating
Nick mentioned Michael Jordan like four times that’s how you know he still the goat
If ya wanna be like that then bron the goat bc we talk about him more then anyone . 🥱
@@VortexFromFire cuz he’s playing in the league still
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Lebron the goat when people start buying his shoes more than Jordans.
@@cp3190 Superstar Guards will almost always sell more shoes than forwards and centers, especially so if the latter two built their style off of size and power
@@VortexFromFire Bcoz LeKlutch sport is paying these fools to talk about him you ignorant rtrd!🤣🤣🤣
Lebron actually had 5 (future)HOF(3 top 75) teammates last season; AD(28), Russ(33), Melo(37), Howard(36), Rando(35), and they went 33-49. "But they were SOOO old!😭". Add LBJ(37) and the average age of the HOFers was 34. The "unfair", "loaded", "4 HOFers!", "super-team" Jordan had for his 2nd 3-peat; MJ(35), Pippen(32), Rodman(37), Kukoc(29), Parish(43). Average age of the HOFers was 35.🤔 That 1998 Bulls roster is literally the oldest(31.7) in NBA history to win a championship. The 2nd? The 2011 Mavs(31.6) that upset LBJ's prime Big 3.🤷♂️
Also, are we just supposed to act like he had that lineup his entire career? The first 3-peat was just him and Scottie. So, with 1 HOF teammate and a rotation of roleplayers, Jordan led a team that ended 2 dynasties; the Bad Boys Pistons(3 HOFers(2 top 75)) & Showtime Lakers(3 HOFers(2 top 75)), and won 3 straight championships. LeBron has never won a single championship with fewer than 2 (future)HOF teammates.
LBJ is amazing. 2nd GOAT and what he's done/doing is incredible and unprecedented at his age/mileage. But people need to stop with this narrative that Jordan was carried by some all-star roster that ran through G-league scrubs. They also need to stop with the narrative that LBJ always needs more help, that he's single-handedly carried all of his teams, and that his teammates/organizations are somehow shafting him in the Jordan/GOAT conversation, when he's literally had the greatest collection of teammates in NBA history. It's all just nonsense.