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- Chris Broussard joins the show to continue the MVP conversation. Broussard dissects LeBron James' MVP Awards & if he should've won more or less throughout his career and heading into future seasons.
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Broussard dissects LeBron's MVP Awards & if he should've won more or less | NBA | FIRST THINGS FIRST
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Do you agree with Chris Broussard?
Yes what would we do without him! 🙏🏾👑
Yes, the only year that is an abomination is that year Nash won. Rose single handedly made the Bulls the best team in the league. Westbrook was the first player to average a triple double in what 40 years? Plus those 2 dudes were the only reason their teams were competitive. The Thunder had nobody. The Bulls had nobody. Like literally a bunch of nobodies.
Consecutive MVP is a fluke and likely won’t happen much in the future.
Chris is always right nick is 90% wrong most times !! But it is entertaining to listen his non sense
Nick Young gives Lebron way too much credit in every way possible. He's good in other topics though. I think the voters got it right.
I literally laughed out loud when Brandon says Senator Chris! Then his screen goes black and silent 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Same 😂😂😂😂
The show itself even cut Brandon off😂😂😂
Lmao
Quit hatin white boi
And Wildes
😁😁😁😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Why don’t they just fire him
Thank you for muting Brandon Marshall his takes are unbearable
Did the producers really cut him off or someone edited that?
@@PedroGarcia-zf8zg they always edit him out cause he sucks. They need to hire Broussard full time.
@@NiccFurious i would love that but i honestly like having him on multiple shows
I hadn't realized how much more I would enjoy the show without Brandon. Please keep editing him out.
Just down right awful
this show cutting off Brandon is the best 'fan-service' in history of sports shows!!🤭🤣🤣
😁😁😁😊😊
Brandon is horrible. I don't even know why he's on the show. If it were up to me, Chris Broussard would be the full time replacement.
Lol
Y'all should check out the house of athlete podcast he hosts. It's super good check it out before h8in
@@strahinjasalajic627 our hate is justified...have you listened to his takes since he started the show?? outrageous, all of them..
Yeah Brandon should just take a break when they talk about the nba. He sometimes has worse takes than skip when it comes to basketball.
Skip @ least knows the History of the Game.
@@Militarize Nick was right about everything last year tho so you rlly can’t
@@Militarize Nick often makes Phenomenal points.
Derrick Rose had Keith Bogan and Kurt Thomas starting with him half of the year and still won more games than the Heat 😂😂😂😂. Stop it
🙍♀️😴🙏🏽📿🛐
Brandon Marshall was saying the other day that the Lakers would end up the 5th seed lol smh
@Sir NICK nah they gon be numero Uno !
@Sir NICK 2 at worst
@Sir NICK they are second right now and ad isnt even back yet so
@Sir NICK put 20 on it
@@SSJRome those chances not looking good anymore with Bron out too
Derrick rose won 62 games with a lesser team.
I remember that year, a huge majority agreed on rose for MVP.
Yup, Derrick Rose deserved to win it that year.
the bulls also swept the heat that season in the regular season
Nick ignoring Chris's points for Derrick Rose MVP completely lol
Because Chris is right! Heat had more star power and won less games while the Bulls were dominating the regular season and playoffs until the ECF.
@@juicelord4792 Oh yah I 100% agree. My "Lol" was making fun of Nick.
@@juicelord4792 rose didn’t deserve it tbh. His numbers was ehhh
@@Johenz bulls went from a .500 team to the best record with only one star. He was deserving.
@@Johenz 👎😝🤦♂️
They cutem off... 😁 😂 😂
I'm delighted more of this please
I'm surprised Nick didn't bring up 2018, he definitely should've won that year IMO
Wrong
Very Wrong and your confirmation was that LeBron and the Cavs was swept in Finals for the 2nd time in his career giving him a historic low for a legendary face of the league,3-6 finals record.
Nick didn't bring it up because he knew Bron didn't deserve MVP that year Harden was the MVP from start to finish and it wasn't close
@@semionjohnson1351 tonto
Definitely should’ve won 2018. All these losers talking about he’s wrong and it wasn’t closed my they can just shut up because They are clowns and trolls who don’t even watch basketball
Nik - "The Derrick Rose MVP was an abomination"
Broussard - "How? He won more games with lesser players!"
Nik - ***crickets***
he'll just start making a new point, can't argue or debate with someone like that
Al Horford's Altlanta won more games in 2014-2015, why he aint the MVP???
@@acedobleace Lebron did not deserve MVP in 2015 he took 2 weeks for off in the middle of the season
@@kevincampbell4708 its not always about lebron, i was referring to hawks players who had the best record that season, just point out just because you had more games won doesnt mean you deserve the honor just like what happened to drose when he won mvp over bron
Why are you arguing with Nick? Nick is not a sports analyst, he is a fan (Lebron Fan). Nick will always be blind to all great points
PLEASE replace Brandon with Broussard
That would be awesome
Jordan should have been MVP at least 7 times not leGM
A player that should have won a lot of regular season MVPs than what he got was Tim Duncan no doubt..Duncan never even won at least one defensive player of the year award which is totally absurd.
Broussard's supporting cast argument literally works against harden who he just said was the MVP like 2 days ago lmao
Right lol because Kyrie has been hooping
KD has been out.
And the playoffs performance take
"Howling Wolf" you a hater and a casual that don't watch games KD hasn't been playing and Kyrie has missed games as well and the nets still winning because of Harden
@@semionjohnson1351 I'm not a casual, I was referring to Kyrie, ya know Harden's superstar teammate who's been dropping 40 every other night. The other guys in the MVP race don't have that hence my comment
Kobe was the mvp in 05-06 lol still disrespecting this man avg 35/5/5 was 1st team all defense and made the playoffs with kwame brown and smush Parker AS STARTERS IN THE WEST
Facts. Facts. FACTS.
They weren't a top 5 team in the league. If it didn't go Nash or should've went to Dirk
Am I the only one that felt lebron should have won in 2018? He had maybe the worst cavs team of that run and still carried them to the finals, even almost stealing a game from the warriors if it wasn’t for jr smith, he had idk how many buzzer beaters and clutch moments, and his team basically changed halfway through the season, I have never seen a player do so much with so little help
Nah I agree, Lebron was just a monster in 2018
True but you can’t count the playoffs
He was amazing but it's a regular season award.
@@Heraclitean but he was amazing in that regular season as well, that squad was trash in the regular season too, and like i said the team changed so much throughout the season, he basically never had a good PG but still carried them to the playoffs
@@Tojohiruma Harden carried the Rockets almost as much as LBJ carried the Cavs, and got 65 wins and #1 seed as opposed to 50 wins and #4 seed. A case could be made for LBJ but I don't have a problem with Harden winning it that year.
The 2015 warriors won 67 GAMES, carry on, steph was playing 32 min per game beacouse how dominant they were
“Carry on” 😂. This Kendrick Perkins?
@@xKingKB7x 😂😂😂, maybe
D Rose lead the Bulls to the #1 seed and the Bulls swept the big 3 Heat that year. And Rose was super clutch in those regular season games. D Rose was the MVP. If Rose wasn’t the MVP because Lebron had slightly better stats then Lebron shouldn’t be MVP this year because many players are having much better statistically years. But Lebron does deserve MVP this year.
And the bulls was hurt that year. But Lebron winning this year if they hold the 2nd+ seed
Rose wasn’t top 5 in the league in anything. Should’ve gone to Bron.
@@RJames-uy2mt LeBron was playing with TWO ALL STARS and Rose led his team to more wins despite Noah and Boozers injury.
Lebron don’t, tbh who deserves it would be giannis or jokic but lebron will probably win it
@@RJames-uy2mt I guess you didn’t watch basketball in 2010-2011
I’ve definitely wanted to hear Chris take on this for awhile
Nick wrong always leaves out important details
That Broussard graphic tho 😂😂😂
7 times wtf is this guy talking about. The ONLY time it's debatable was 11 and he still shouldn't have won. In 15 most people feel Harden deserved it. Bron wasn't even in second place. Harden won 55 games and had just as good numbers as Bron.
That’s not the point. The point is that they change the criteria every season in favor of other players over Lebron. Lebron was winning it when the mvp actually meant most valuable player and best player but now it’s a scoring award, or it’s given to the player with the best record or the player who dragged his team to the playoffs but the criteria has changed over the last 5 or 6 years
@@goatman5104 the only year that it was different was in 2017 when russ was mvp. when was it ever a scoring award? The last few, Giannis, put up crazy numbers and best record, Harden put up crazy numbers and best record, Steph put up crazy numbers and best record, Kd put up crazy numbers, 2nd best record in the league and russ was out, then before that. lebron won with, guess what, crazy numbers and the best record...
These guys were trying to give this dude the MVP from the first week of the season
I noticed that too. They always have their cape on for Lebron.
That Steve Nash year was highway robbery
for dirk. he had 60 wins in tougher conf and 2nd best player was jason terry
@@scoop2448 yea I agree Dirk should have got it that year.
05-06 was Kobe’s mvp smh played that man
Anyone except nash would've been acceptable. Either Lebron and Kobe should of had that mvp in their trophy cabinet
Maybe if Lakers won 50 games, he might have won🤷🏾♂️
Cavs only one 50 games and it’s a regular season award just cuz he carry them to finals don’t mean he mvp. And he got swept by warriors while James harden took them to 7 games
D rose led his team to a better record with his 2 best teamates missing 20+ games bron playing with 2 other all stars one a top 10 player in league how didn’t he deserve it lmao thank you broussard
Only reason they lost fewer games is because they took games off & got heat for it but players doing it now & its ok
And Rose and the Bulls swept the Heat that year
@@dimitrythomas4158 and mavs destroyed the heat ??? What’s your point
D Rose had very little to do with the Bulls elite defense
@@carterbilbro4615 so ?
Wow nick loses a lot of credibility saying lebrons 59 win heat team with wade and bosh gets mvp over roses 62 win with DANG and NOAH. Seriously this man just says anything about lebron
He still right bout lebron for most part but no lebron shouldn't of gotten it rose tho
4:59 😂😂😂 yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lost all respect for you max. Don't ever disrespect Derrick Rose like that ever again in life
He was runner up last year while AD led the Lakers in points, rebounds, steals, blocks, FG%, FT% and PER, what more does he want? DAM....
😂😂😂
Is the video stuttering of some sort or its just my phone’s screen?
The Warriors won like 67 games in 2014-15.
Yup with only one all star in Klay
Yup with only one all star in Klay.....while lebron had kyrie and love
Coming back to this I think people forgot how good the bulls was as a cohesive team 😂😂 they 9th man on the roster a guy by the name of John Lucas III used to give the heat buckets every time 😂😂😂😂😂
Nash, Rose, and Steph all deserved those MVPs. Neither Wright or Broussard know what they're talking about.
In 2006, Amare missed the entire season and Nash still led the team to the #2 offense and 54 wins in the Western Conference. And LeBron had no help in '06? Zydrunas Ilgauskas averaged 16/8 with 2 blks on 51% shooting. And LeBron was in the Eastern Conference, which was a weaker conference.
Phoenix in 2006 was 22-8 against the East (.713%) and 32-20 against the west (.615%).
yeah Kobe deserved the MVP in 2006 more than Lebron did, Nash was always going to be a tough call for MVP because what he did is less measurable in basic stats in 2006 Lebron wasn't any better than Dirk or Bill's either really
Ain’t no way we taking away D. Rose mvp he earned that
Brandon Marshall looks the way he sounds
chris be liking lebron but pretending
He's combative vs Nick but will be a big LeBron fan vs Rob Parker. Dude is funny
@@curbyourenthusiazm agreed bruh cuz wright and parker are polar opposites
Chris like LeBron but is also objective
I like LBJ too! He's not the GOAT though.
The Lebron fanboys on FS1 make it unwatchable.
Lebron sat out %15 of the season in his first season back with Cleveland and the Cavs were the 2 seed. That’s with adding a All NBA PF along with Lebron. Steph lead the Warriors to 67 wins playing the whole season, while revolutionizing the game with his 3 point shooting. No Lebron didn’t deserve MVP. Harden had a better case as well.
id take klay thompson and draymond green {and others} over kyrie and love any day of the week.
@@JazzyJ.28 That was the first year they all played that well together. That was Draymond’s coming out season. Go look at Draymond’s numbers the years before 2014 and compare it to Kevin Love’s the 4 years before that in Minn. it’s not even close. Anyone back then would have taken Love over Draymond.
@@dimitrythomas4158 k love was only good in Minnesota bc they had nobody 🤣🤣🤣
@@JazzyJ.28 i highlyyy doubt you were saying this in 2014 when Love LeBron and Kyrie formed together in Cleveland. Klay and Draymond weren’t even all stars at that time
if anyone wants to know the real answer, Jonny Arnett has a series that talks about this and points out who could've won it for each individual year
11-12 derick rose with no help was 4-0 against the heat in regular season and won more games, + the numbers are kind of similar
you mean 2010-11 rose yeah? Rose definitely deserved his MVP
They forgot about the 2015 finals
Nick is completely crazy sayin Bron shoulda beat Rose for Mvp that’s insane
Lebron literally cruises through the regular seasons, how many times has he ended the season on top of the conference
The problem is not everyone uses a "criteria" when voting. It should be media/player's and the fan's. If there's a bogus vote. You sway with the obvious winner of who did vote correct.
Media most objective lmao
how is 2014-15 even a debate? lol... the #'s are very similar and Curry's Dubs won 67 games and LeBron's won 53 in a bad east conf... i mean c'mon
i don't think the Derrick Rose year is that big of a debate either - given the way the Heat came together that year with THREE franchise players
so i agree with Chris, the only year you can quibble with is the Nash year
That year with Rose...the Bulls SWEPT MIAMI!
That DRose one is stupid, the Bulls were the 1 seed that year in the same conference as Bron, and Rose was by far the MVP that year. Nick sounds stupid with that one.
That year Lebrun went back to Cle he also had them trade for shump and Jr. he was not alonee he rebooted the team
It won't happen but if it ever could, a dpoty for lebron would be amazing. The 2011-13 seasons were blatant robbery and he should've gotten 1 in that period
well this aged well
I think Nick is right about the other 2 years but bruh, I was a huge Heat fan the year that D Rose won that MVP. Trust me when I say that come playoff time I knew the Heat had a better overall team but at the same time there was some doubt about beating Chicago. D Rose was full on Super Saiyan that whole year...
lebron said that drose was the mvp that season
drose with garbage supporting cast won 60 games that's being mvp lebron had two all stars on his team miami won less games
Boy Nick refuses to see those years when Lebron had stars beside him and won as anything, but ALL Lebron all day ! His sort sightedness some days is incredible!
he always does that
drose with leoul Deng
The Derrick rose won he earned it, it wasn’t a story line give me.
What
First off last year lebron should not have been in the convo! How was he in mvp race when he wasn't even the best player statistically on his own team!
LeBron could've never won D_Rose LeBron always have atleast 2 superstars in the past years.. plus Rose team was better win wise
Only reason why was because lebron & wade was taking games off or yall forgot about that
Rose deserved that MVP to me
I love watching chuck Taylor from the Chapelle show talk about sports with Tom Green
Honestly MJ actually could of been MVP almost all his healthy years with the Bulls... Just look at the ridiculous numbers he put up
Both he and Lebron should have like 7 or 8 mvps
The criteria has to change, because it can't just be about the stats, because their are dudes in the league like Bradley Beal with off the charts stats but can't win games. Then you have guys like Chris Paul who makes teams better but the stat line doesn't reflect all that he contributes.
05-06 Wade was clearly better than LeBron, can’t give it to him that year. Nash was the rightful MVP IMO as well as the media’s.
That was weird how he just got cut off ..... lol
The media isn't the most objective. Their the least. These are the same idiots that didn't put T.O as a first ballot hall of fame. Also the dumbest thing about this award is that everyone has their own criteria.
I agree with 06. He was in 2nd place to Nash
Can we review Wilt's case for more M.V.P.s?
D Rose deserved his.. had a much more dominant season, by far the best player on his team
Chicago also was the 1 seed with no other all stars on his team.
Wow they actually cut Brandon off, I didn't expect that
Is the West that much of a tougher conference anymore?... Im lookin at the Nets, Bucks, 76ers verse the Lakers, Clippers, Jazz... its alot more evened out now than it was 2 years ago 🤷♂️
✔NICK (w)RIGHT 💯
His throat must hurt alot
Why can't Brandon just be a football mercenary like Chris is a basketball mercenary? Just bring him on for the football takes. Chris would lose credibility if he talked football similar to when Brandon ventures into basketball.
The warriors won 67 games in 2015 fam.
Can you imagine if "NOT WRIGHT" was a voter?
Hello Nick, how u feeling rn? 😂😂😂😂
Curry was 48/45/90 in 2015 with 67 wins and also better assist numbers than LeBron. LeBron was 48/35/70 and score only 1.5 points more than Steph and sat out 19 games. Stop it. Look at the efficiency.
steph had the same folks he won a ring with which is good help so how people saying steph did not have help his first mvp
should solomon Hill be in the MVP convo since he took lebron out of the convo?
Derrick rose might not have had offensive fire power but they had the best defense in the league. It’s not all about offensive fire power.
I can't believe that Nick is discrediting Drose. Simply ignore imo
He's hates everything Chicago. So simple-minded to be on TV!
Totally agree with Broussard. 05-06 he should have gotten it, so 5
Talking about Lebron, eh? That’s different..
Rose averaged less points and assist than Lebron but Chris uses the supporting cast stuff meaning Rose had to do more?
Kobe should’ve won at least 2 more! If not 4!
The fact that Jordan bron and Kobe only have a combined 10 mvps just shows how biased mvp voting is. Kobe should have at least 5, bron 7 and mj 7. But they also have the only important accomplishments in the nba which is finals mvps. Something that giannis, harden, embiid jokic etc. will never win
@@goatman5104 very well put!
it is political award, because it was given to players that have padded stats that didn't mean anything at the end
Most MvP winners play on the no.1 team, rose and steph won cause they had better team, nash won cause amare got injured and he led that team to the playoffs, westbrook won as an 8th seed cause it was historical, and nash belongs to that class, he just plays in a more competitive era compared to bird and the other 3 consecutive mvp winners
How come the Eastern Conference vs Western Conference argument only works against LeBron but never in his favor? This year the East is as bad as it's ever been.
Only work against? How did he win 4 mvps playing in the east then?
@@guilhermevieira6010 That's because he was the overwhelming favorite those years. To Nick's point whenever it's been a close MVP race with someone else, they never give it to him because he's in the weaker conference or whatever the excuse of the year is.
@@asieduy he was the favorite because his teams were in the top of the standings, that's not the case this season.
@@guilhermevieira6010 that's one reason. The more important one is him actually being far and away the best player that season.
@@guilhermevieira6010 Lakers are the 2nd seed
2011 Drose led his team to the 1st seed without a star when nobody expected his team to be capable of doing it , Lebron,Wade,Bosh in the first 20-25 games in the beginning of the season was struggling also Lebron had a better supporting cast than Rose and both of there stats wasn’t separated that significantly. 2015 Steph team led his team to 67 wins when nobody expected his team to be capable of doing it and again both players stats wasn’t significantly separated and Lebron team was 53 wins and remember closely, the media talked about is this the start of him declining because his points and percentages was the lowest since his rookie season and remember him and Kyrie had issues figuring how to play together, got to a point where some media members talked about should the Cavs trade Kyrie in the first season with Lebron. The 2006 season Lebron deserves it because he led his team to 50 wins when nobody expected his team to be capable of doing it, and his stats were significantly separated and better than Nash and supporting cast Lebron wasn’t working with much.These are facts I’m just saying for anyone who wants to attack my points.
Let's forget Kobe 35/6/5..lol..just to give it to lbj..
@@idlamper0uge916 Nothing but respect for Kobe but again it goes back to team success added to the stats. The Lakers was a 7-8th seed, when Jordan averaged 37/5/5 he didn’t get the MVP cause his team was an 8th seed. If the MVP was about who has the most stats and ignore the team success, your discrediting great players that are winning with the respectable numbers. On top of that, Lebron had 31/7/6, its close between Kobe stats so because of that it all boils down to which of the player’s team success is better.
If we really going off most valuable like that Lebron should of won it the year he took the cavs to the finals too in 07 idk how he got that team to the playoff
Nick Wright and Chris Broussard, 2 of the best analysts there are, but get a lot of hate from casuals who don’t know basketball.
Its honestly horrible that the media votes for the mvp at all
Crazy how 2018/19 isnt brought up when discussing MVP as in "most valuable" there is no other player who could have won 50+ games and taken that sorry cavs team to the finals... imo thats the most blatant rob as far as Lebrons MVPs
I'm a mj fan and I agree 100 percent
Jokic is going to rise. They have a favorable schedule, and in terms of individual play he has arguably had the best season.
His teams been fully healthy.Denver wont finish better then 4th and he plays poor defense
What about Kobe? He clearly should have won more then 1, at least 4 or 5...
bron deserved 5 harden also deserved 5 and mj deserved 9, based on win shares on basketball reference
Cant believe brandon was on this show
NW asking if you want to be intellectually honest about LBJ. Thats rich.
Ima jus leave this here... majority of the nba press really doesn’t want Lebron to accumulate accolades to surpass MJ because they are his fan boys and fight tooth and nail to hold up that MJ banner. And let’s nt bring up hw Lebron never won a dpoy... as much as ppl used to say he guarded 1-5 effectively 🤷🏾♂️... but that’s neither here nor there. But yes Lebron awards case is missing a few WELL DESERVED items.
WELL deserved 100%