2018 Dell XPS 9370 vs 2017 13" Macbook Pro - Ultimate Comparison
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- čas přidán 4. 05. 2018
- AppleInsider is putting Apple's Mid 2017 13-inch MacBook Pro to the test against the 2018 Dell XPS 13 9370. Will Intel's new 8th gen quad-core processor put the Dell in the lead?
Apple 2017 13" MacBook Pro ► bhpho.to/2BjVvaB
Dell XPS 13 XPS9370-7002SLV ► bhpho.to/2JW0JgW
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I came here for a biased opinion to convince me to buy a macbook and im leaving very disappointed....
Honestly, yeah. At least reviewers who daily drive a windows 10 device are still relatively unbiased. These apple reviewers not only give out false info, but make the opposing windows devices look bad. And when the windows device excels, they always play it down by saying "oh it's overkill", or that the difference is marginal, even if it's not.
You forgot Apple's best feature, you can buy two xps for the price of a mac 🤗
thats not true the new xps 13 base model costs 1,198.99 and the base model macbook pro is 1,249.00.
@@Equinhoxy the base 2018 13 Macbook pro is 2399 Cad and the Dell xps is on sale on Microsoft's website for $1500...
Raymond Liu CE down here to say that. Got the 16gb i5 8th gen for 1400CAD
Nope
Glad I got the XPS 13 over the MacBook. Bare in mind I'm in Australia. The XPS was cheaper, faster and better looking/built imo. The faster CPU and having 16gb of ram in a 13" laptop this small is great
Hayden Patterson Where did you buy the laptop from?
Aadarsha Chhetri JB HI-FI
$2400
I'm quite happy with my XPS 13. There was an issue with the keyboard skipping inputs every now and then but a recent BIOS update resolved it. I'm using the 4k display with Core 8550U & 16GB RAM
Dennis Deveaux I personally can't find the difference between a 4K and 1080p screen on a 13 inch laptop.
There was a lot of inaccurate info in this review to make the macbook look better than it is and to make the dell look worse than it is. I would not use this channel as a reliable source when comparing the two devices.
do you have these 2 devices? if so do an honest review. then we can have all the facts.
Agreed. I used both devices, and both have it advantages. And I love Dell XPS 13 more due to my preference. Many things mentioned here is biased, like the mentioned 4K display on Dell XPS 13 is overkill is total BS. iPad Pro has 4K display too, and it not overkill? What a biased review.
Crypto Boss Yes, and I don't need to. There are many other reviews covering this topic. This was the only CZcams review I found that was purposely misleading/biased.
maybe he should have installed windows 10 on the macbook, but ultimately I don't see why he would compare them both. A computer from 2017 to a newer computer from 2018, not to forget that they both run different os. they also target different audiences. if you have other apple devices, like using apple pro apps, or minimising the risk of viruses which could steal your data, then the mac book would probably be a better choice. But if you need that extra power in a portable device for software, or you want something portable you can game on, then the xps system or another alternative windows laptop would be the choice. out of these 2 systems, the macbook would suit me better, but even then that is overkill for what I do on a laptop. my 2012 macbook pro still sustains around 6 hours battery when surfing the web, doing trades ect... it even manages 1080 prores.
#CryptoBoss many programmes do not run on Mac or are total headaches . Due to being Mac is still like a Russian rule GDR's closed economy. Its an open world for Windows , you can get virus and get sick but you are free and get to live .
Honestly the best review I've ever watched on CZcams for any product. Simple, straight to the point, direct comparison, relevant statements. Have my like, sir.
2:12 Dell XPS Write Speed : 13476Mb/s! LOL
That is a typo.
0:37 have to say that makes the Macbook bezel look immediately old, though it's a bit of an illusion since the XPS has it all on the bottom. Can't wait for the 13" quad core rMBP though.
The XPS is waaay better looking but the build quality of the Mac is slightly above the one on the XPS. The first one is subjective but the other one is not. I had lots of issues with the last gen XPS 15 (dead pixels, defective keys and audio jack, rattling fans, uneven chassis). I exchanged about 5 of them before giving up.
Andrei Agulescu I gave the XPS 15 a fair shot but I couldn’t put up with the wobbly feet, creaky chassis and poor tolerances. The giant gap between the screen and body in clamshell mode isn’t befitting of a $2000 machine, especially not when you see it side by side with a MacBook Pro.
It's not better looking after about 2 weeks when the thing is covered in grease D: eww
Jordan Durzi To be fair the MacBook keyboard gets pretty damn greasy too.
True =)) and why did they have to put that rubbery material over the touchpad too? Nothing beats the smoothness of an all-glass touchpad (the best touchpad on a windows machine that I ever used was on an ASUS Zenbook Pro UX550)
Because all computer can suffer from problems so matter what the brand is. Just like the current Macbooks suffering from keyboard issues.
Okay, firstly I think mentioning that this was the 1080p version in the beginning would have been great, because when you said "when it comes to screens the MacBook's is better in every way" I was like dude.. duuuuddde, the Dell has 4k, 100% Adobe RGB and 99%SRGB no way that's true. THEN, it showed it's the 1080p version.
Lately I have found windows 10 to be much better than MacOS if I am being honest, and I say this having the 2017 version of the 15 inch MacBook Pro as well as a previous gen XPS15 (yes, you guessed right, I'm a heavy duty programmer who needed CUDA cores but loves Macs). When you put a 4k video the reds and greens on the xps are.. jaw dropping, and when you use the Mac after prolonged use of the Dell, the bezels look a little crusty. I've never liked 13 inch laptops though. It was a great video though, thanks
so the 4k on 13 inch XPS is overkill but Retina is OK for 13 inch? uhm okay.
Well retina is not as much as 4k, so yes, 4k is a bit overkill as you won't see it most of the time
LoL u blind
retina on the 13 inch is about 2k. it is called retina because unless you faceplant the device, then you can't see the pixels.
this also reminds me of 4k screens on mobile phones. who gives a fuck.
4K 13" is 331ppi
retina 13" 227ppi
iPhone X 458ppi :)
I’m impressed how impartial you were! Great work 😁
Can you do a video on the updated Mac book pro and the Dell XPS
I find it crazy how Windows still doesn’t have decent 4K scaling.
Edmundo studios I bought one w/ Ubuntu preinstalled, which scales properly.
According to who ?
Bullshit. Windows 10 on iMac 5k screen looks excellent.
gladfilm Watch the video from Linus tech tips he explains the issues.
I guess microsoft never thought ahead when designing the UI for .net and the likes. I don't think it'll ever be fixed
Wow that was really unbiased, good work. Really loved the bit where you gave the screen win to Mac due to the camera placement!??? Also comparing the best screen option on the Mac to the worst on the XPS; nice.
So hows that Macs touch screen working for ya ;-)
Which is the best for student
Do you guys know any way to drive an external HDR display w/ a Mac computer?
Allan Sh usb c? Maybe
really nice work, every second of the video count
Really nice insightfull comparison, I ended up getting the matchbook, but both of these machines are very good !
This dell XPS, it’s fine to work on premiere pro, 4K video ? Please let me know .
Exactly what are the speeds of SSD in both? Write speed is shown to be 13476 MB/s in XPS. Are you sure?
Thanks..Im thankful I have finally realized Apple isn't the only game any longer. Ive started to appreciate other laptop makers. My last mac was the 2014 MBA. Using Thinkpad with LM along with the MacBook Air. My 2015 MacBook Pro is in storage.
The XPS trackpad is really really good. This video put it in a bad light unnecessarily.
Also the keys are only beaten by MBP's 2015 and below.
Really, the XPS is the best windows machine imo.
The screen is so short though, I wish more Windows laptops were 3:2 like the Surface line, or even 16:10 like the Macbook. 16:9 is so short.
Naw, the trackpad is good. Something must be wrong with yours.
Dude, it's not just the infinity display that makes the physical space smaller, just look at the display's aspect ratio on the XPS vs. the MacBook Pro.
Hi! What's the model number of the macbook you used here?
Would be nice if you compare the performance with some softwares
The link which was provided in the description (Apple insider) is it geninue to buy product from it . Any experiences so far ? Please share
Write speeds ? right speeds ?
I know this may be hard for some to believe... but I actually use both Macs AND PCs! Yes, people, you can use and enjoy both! It's true!
I hate how people act like they have to choose sides. Ford OR Chevy, XBOX OR Playstation, etc... I use both almost daily and I just prefer Apple's OS. My favorite OS ever is Windows 7. When Windows 8 came out, I tried it and absolutely hated it. Windows 10 is better, and I am tempted to get a laptop with Windows 10 installed to give it more of a chance. I'm in the market for a new laptop right now, so I'm watching lots of laptop review videos. Going to get a new one for school which starts next month.
How about the price?
What do you think about Dell XPS 9390 i5 vs. Apple MBP 2017 non touch bar i5?? PLEASE HELP ME
Keep up the good work guys loving the valueable info
The thing about all of the xps models, they have an issue with CPU temperature, they get really hot easily. Then you have to take it to the dell manufacturer or whatever place that supports dell, have the techs to replace motherboard, or add thermal paste onto the heat sink...
you can disable the touch screen on the xps to increase battery life
Those quad core chips really are impressive. I’m interested to see how well they perform in the new MacBook Pros since the XPS laptops tend to have pretty poor thermals.
The quad core thing is a placebo. It's more threads packed into the same 15W package. Still 14nm. All they've done is give you the same power but divided differently. If I had a choice, I'd much prefer a 2 core 4 thread CPU running at an almost constant 2.8-3.0ghz over a 4 core 8 thread CPU running at 1.8-2.0ghz. Depends if your workload requires more multithreading. Mine favours IPC / clock speed. :P
Jordan Durzi I was referring more to the 28w processors used in the 13” Touch Bar model which I believe will see a much larger benefit due to the increased power envelope. That should be quite a noticeable performance increase for multithreaded tasks. You’re right that it won’t benefit all workflows, but base clock isn’t really a factor in modern CPUs and AFAIK they Turbo Boost almost as high as their dual core predecessors so you shouldn’t lose too much performance in single threaded applications.
Repaste and your thermals will be great.
The 16GB version of the XPS has faster ram. You also selected the FHD XPS vs the QHD MBP? Yeah... Your bias is showing.
You could have compared the Dell XPS 13 to the 13 inch Macbook Pro quad core model (the one with the touchbar). This would have evened the field. I think this comparison just wasn’t fair.
But does the dell xps come with coil whine? if not then don't want it.
MBP speakers are actually also firing to the side.
The upper holes are fake.
Not 4 but 5 LED battery indicator
Which is quieter?
Very detailed and balanced. Great review!
I don't get why you compared the loudness of speakers like that. I'm assuming the mic was to the top of both devices, in that case of course the Mac would sound significantly louder since the mic is right across from the speakers. It would've been a better comparison if the mic was from a person's perspective.
Super video, looked at many reviews but yours is the best. Definitly buying Dell xps 13
9370 is definitely better. I have just order a 4K version, along with an eGPU.
Dell also has Ubuntu driver support.
Allan Sh Hardware. Yes, the Dell is better. Software, not so much
Joshua Raikes Ubuntu >> macOS
Are you living in 2000s? Go out of your apple bubble and try new things. Linux is far better now, and Windows 10 is surprisingly good as well. And yes, I'm user of Mac. I'm forced to carrying a +2500€ brick with me which can barely handle a hard workfload without throttling.
Allan Sh
(Better than > Worse than)
Windows 95/98/2000/Me/XP/Vista/7 > Ubuntu =/= macOS > Windows 8/8.1 > Linux Mint > ReactOS > NeXSTEP > IBM OS/2 > AmigaOS > Windows RT =/= Windows CE > SteamOS > Chrome OS > Windows 10
(your comment) > intelligence
Hope you can compare MBP vs HP Spectre 13
The channel is called Appleinsider for a reason lol, congrats Apple fans
enjoy your planned obsolescence apple fanobys lmao
Larry Low Then get the fuck outta here mate
I only saw that after watching the whole video. It's like 'EverythingApplePro', like WTH who would think these guys aren't biased.
Lol what? Apple computers are overpriced as shit but they are far more durable and long lasting than the average windows laptop...
Andrei Ivan the XPS is aluminum and carbon fiber
Dell came out 11 months later, Honestly why WOULDN"T it be better? This is how tech works, improvements over others than the next to follow.
These videos are funny..but really comparing year apart models is cute
If they're in the same price point, they have every reason to be compared against one another. I don't give a shit when something comes out; if I can get something better for the same price, then why wouldn't I?
Is that the macbook screen much bigger than the xps 13??? @2:36
InfiniteZ100 16:10 aspect ratio gives more vertical space with the cost of less wide space and gives a tiny bit more display area for every diagonal inch
What is the better Laptop for te Future ?
Which one is faster and lasts longer in like 3 years ?
Mac will definitely last longer. More reliable, don't have to worry about viruses, resale value holds up a lot longer than any Windows laptop.
BATTERY INDICATOR. This is a win for me as an old Mac user
I can throw my hat in the ring on this having recently been faced with the choice of the xps 13 9360 or the 13 inch MacBook pro without the touchbar after my old laptop died. If money isn't much of a concern for you and you are comfortable with MacOS go with the MacBook. But, if you are like me and want a quality high-end product but are on a budget, dell offers some great deals on refurbished (or even occasionally new) laptops through their outlet website. even a refurbished MacBook pro is going to run you around $1100 for the lowest end model. Through the dell outlet i was able to get a new xps 13 9360 with and i5 and upgraded ram and storage for around $800. definitely something to consider if you are trying to decide between the two.
Is XPS 13/15 has a slot for HDD?
No, the XPS13 uses M.2 NVMe for its storage, and only one. It is replaceable by the user, though.
2:12 13476MB/s write speed?
Own a xps13 touchscreen if you compare the white on xps screen to other brand, xps panel has a bluish green tint to it. I compared it when i was in lecture hall with many different brands and models. My screen really stands out very green........ I had to xrite it to fix the colour.
13 hours with i7?!? Now THAT'S impressive!
The 4K Touch Option kills the MacBook Pros Display. It comes in at close to 500 nits, its sharpness is incredible and touch is just so convenient. Only downer is the impact on battery life.
I'd prefer less wobble compared to less resistance.
thanks alot, but i think you forget the price ...
Interestingly you talked about better speaker, screen and trackpad
All these improvements can be found in Huawei new Matebook X Pro
Please do a Matebook X Pro vs Macbook Pro 2018
Well, you'll have to wait until (at least) next month for that...
Maybe we will :)
The price of that thing makes it a pure clunker. The exoticness of such a beautiful machine comes sadly with a pricetag that's well in MBP territory and depreciates the hallmark that is of Windows laptops to be known as better value-oriented options to the opposite Apple line - at least the Dell has more options and is able to segment it's different models a nth better (1499 for 16gb DDR4 ram 256 ssd and an 8750h, holy shit, only thing the matebook has over the dell or any 15 inch lappy is its 14" more portable frame).
LOLOLOL
*and a graphics card (MX150 (10W))^^
not to mention ports by having a full USBA
and what you mean by "more portable frame" is not just the 14" screen but the 91% sbr aswell ...
also his complaints about speakers and touchpad should really be gone with the matebook - likely because they look and work like mbps setup, just better.
let me as the other way round what does the mbp have thats clearly far supperior to the matebook? (other then the higher price that is ;) just kidding)
i would get the macbook but they need to update those cpu’s soon cause a brand new xps 15 with a 6 core cpu and 16gig of ram is only $1400 right now and thats a steal to me
i'll wait till the macbook pro update it with better keyboard and 8th gen quad-core i5 like the xps 13.
I prefer a head phone jack thank you very much!
Why does the macbook screen look bigger. Look at the apple dock and windows search bar. The dell screen is smaller
Bro this is more of an apple promotion vid instead of a comparison 😂
i’d want the 2018 Macbook Pro 13
Notice how fast he went over the SSD speeds lol so let me show you here you might have missed it: Apple write 1236 vs 13476....right
Channel: *called Apple Insider*
PC users: “Guess I’ll click”
XPS 13 4k?
Man, after 18 years using Windows, I got my MBP 2017 13 non touch bar is EXCELLENT. Screen, sound, fast rendering, won't regret it moving from Windows!
Typical Cars same here! It is amazing.
sasan mokhtari yup, mind blowing seeing my photo is so crisp and vibrant, and most importantly rendering 4K is fast and I can play 4K very smooth while rendering 🤘
Same. I used to always defend Windows, but damn Apple laptops smash. Desktops however I'll still take a Windows.
I agree that osx is much more user friendly, and is made to very high quality, but this review was pointless. I still use windows for gaming :( but osx for everything else. just can't trust windows snooping.
Typical Cars good luck with the keyboard
pretty sure the xps 13 comes with 2133 mhz lpddr3 as well
I think the XPS design looks way better, this Appel aluminium is really the new gray of borking PCs, ... the XPS looks way more modern, and interesting, ..!
The best machine is the imac in the background.
the 13476MB/s write speed on the xps is pretty insane. it's probably a mistake
Just get a razer blade pro if you want a video editing power house and mind blowing screen.
I admit - that Dell login was super fast!
write speed for the ssd is wrong.
great review!
who's the host name?
Why didn't you review the new XPS 15 with 4k monitor and i9-8950HK?
Don't review not compareble stuff...
how is 13 inch MacBook Pro comparable to maxed out 15inch XPS?
Please note that Dell xps 13 9370 comes in 4 k version and reviews say that graphics are stunning.
What's really not clear, is that the MacBook is using 7th gen chips, and also according to the video, you compare an i5 with an i7...
So of course the Dell XPS outperforms in CPU tests the MacBook...
Raimundo Castro Were comparing similar price points guys!
yeah but don't lower their prices until a new model comes out.
thats what you get when you fuck with Apple, you get old components, Apple users should be used to that by now!!
I believe everyone makes that...
The mac looks a tad bit nicer !
waiting for the next mac !
Am I the only one who saw the 13,476mbs on the xps write, I am not sure because I haven't tested it, but, it seems a little high, right?
The xps keeps on acting weird, suddenly unresponsive for no reason, then the screen was blindingly bright one time and don’t get me started on the camera. Yea, it just looks cool and convenient to carry but...
Should have left it thicker and kept usb A
I think if the macbook pro had thinner bezels they would add a notch for the webcam
Your wish came true now XD
The latest MacBook Pros have notches for the webcam, so basically u predicted the future XD
@@TheKDKCollector That wasn't a wish :/ It was a prediction of bad things to come.
@@FubarMike Oof...
The best speaker and comparison....
Clearly this video is paid by Apple
Please tell me why
Jithin Jose Apple does not sponsor CZcamsrs. That's bullshit and they don't need to.
qvbe don't think so, considering the reach they have
Jithin Jose But nobody ever confirmed a cooperation with Apple.
Nhật Phạm clearly you don't know how to start a conversation properly, and that makes you stupid
Why the camera on the buttom bezel??!
Because the top bezels can't fit a camera. It's too thin.
LZ You can't remove the cam from the top though. That's like putting a small battery just for sake of thinness
The better question is: Why even a camera? Everybody has a sticker on it from the first day on.
Serhat Bayraktar True but there is an option there if you ever need to use it
I have been using the Macbook Pro and now the Dell XPS 13 9370 and i must say the review is good and fair. But a quick note on what i felt that is not true in the review are - the under rating of 4K in Windows 10 OS and in 13 inch. I use the 4K with Netflix and some good games in XPS 9370 and i must say it is awesome. Plus the speakers on new 9370 will blow your mind off - Sorry but Apple comes no way closer to that theatrical surround effect. Also the keyboard is one up than the apple macbook pro which after my using 9370 feels like a cheap mechanical keyboard. And the Windows Hello face unlock is awesome once you have trained it enough. It is just as fast as it is shown in the video. And for those who process lot of photos and videos - Dell XPS 9370 is a blessing in disguise.
Dam...amazing videos. Just what i was looking. You should make a video about the geoForce now on those ultraBooks or which of the best ultrabooks of the market are better also for gaming(my situation)
Juan José Calderon done czcams.com/video/XbVFemjaeP0/video.html (but with a 12” MacBook) the way GeForce now works you’d have the same experience with either 13.3” machine but the MacBook had a brighter display with better sound so if choose that one.
great review
Apple's screens are in a class of their own. When it comes to PCs I find the XPS 9370's screen to better than most. Same with the macbook speakers, no pc laptop can match them. In the end most people just look for a laptop within their favourite OS and if you are going with Windows I'd say the XPS 13 9370 is the best (including the matebook). Get the 16GB ram/512GB ssd version if you can.
@MP Lovecraft "Apple's screens are in a class of their own."
Apple screens are very good no doubt but you should remember they are reviewing the XPS with a 1080 screen. The 4k screen model has better color accuracy and higher resolution than the Mac. Also the 4k model it's 415 nits not 350 nits (1080) as they incorrectly claim. Not as bright as the Macbook's 500 nits, but hardly dim.
They are right about the speakers, tho. Even the higher-end XPS 15 has subpar speakers .
base model of MacBook compared to i7 XPS? Seems apple is cheaper this time around :)
I could't afford that XPS easly, but god good deal on Macbook 128/8 though and I am quite happy, yet afraid of the future. Flexgate, kb problems etc.
My 4k XPS 13 smokes this thing in every way.
4k is overkill on a 13 inch you say, but it didnt stop unfavourably comparing the Dell's FHD 1080 to the Macbook's QHD equivalent. Are you serious?
Anyone considering any of Apple's MacBooks needs to research the problems with the keyboards on all 2015 and newer MBs and 2016 and newer MBPs. The new design is leading to high failure rates for keyboards and the fix out of warranty is expensive (~$700). Warning: Do your research first.
I can see the comparision of the sound, BUT please do not use youtube for sound testing.
Dell because it has a SD CARD SLOT AND A FINGERPRINT SCANNER. and a 4k screen
timothy Alvarado touchbat ver has it also
Great comparison and b-roll!
Vadim Yuryev Thanks!