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Who will win in a battle between USA and the UK in the arena of sports cars. Lotus Evora 400 or Corvette Grand Sport?
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corvette wins hands down. better interior, better sound, far faster lap times, better sound dampening, more usable, far better acceleration, higher top speed, and over all a more complete package. Lotus can keep its extra few feet of braking and twitchy turn in. ;)
well, most people will sadly choose based on the car badge they either like or hate.
I've owned three Lotuses and you are correct. But, the Corvette GS can also handle the track days and still be a daily driver for less money.
justin bouche yeh, except the Evora will beat it on the track
there are no lap times which prove your position...
Check fastestlaps.com. On the only track they've both been to, NCM Motorsport Park, the GS did 1:32.16 and the Evora 400 did 1:39.56. The GS is in a completely different class than the Evora.
Toyota makes great strong and reliable engines. Lotus is smart for going that route. The fact thats its the Camry engine (2GR) shows everyone how potent the camry engine is. Thats not a bad thing at all. Show that that engine has potential.
Also its not a "camry" engine this engine is used in alot of Toyotas and Lexus cars. He say "Lots of people have a problem with where its from".. Toyota is the same company that made the 2jz Supra V10 LFA V8 ISF MR2 turbo Celica-GT4 Corolla XRS with the 2zz engine and tons more. All those great engines.. are from Toyota. Anyone that hate on this engine is just a Toyota Hater.
Toyota4Life UNTIL LOTUS PUTS OUT 450 HP IT'S NOT GOING TO GET RESPECT
Camry V6 are the shitiest V6 in the market right now. I have never driven a car as gutless as a camry. Drive a V6 accord and you will know what i am talking about.
hannanssq your a idiot. The Toyota V6 is stronger then the Accord V6 and faster. The Toyota V6 you can get a Supercharger on it.
The Toyota V6 is used in the Lexus IS350 and it gets that car to 60 in 4.9 seconds.
Toyota/Lexus reliability ratings are constantly higher then Honda/Acura.
hannanssq what? V6 Camry's are certified sleepers. can't say they same about the accord.
You fucking fanboy. You think 4.9 sec is impressive? Do you drive a fucking Prius? Even a mustang GT is faster than that. Camry is slow as hell. 5,8 sec to 60. You can get a supercharger on anything. Toyota don't come with one from factory. Also forced Induced V6 do make a lot more power. Ever heard of Porsche 911 turbo ? 580 hp from boxer 6. Ford GT V6 ? 700+ hp. Even an 4 cyclinder eco boast has better torque curve than this piece of shit. Yes it's a great engine if you are 80 years old and drive an Avalon. I am sorry if i heard your little feeling with the taste of reality. And we all know IS350 is BMW wannabe piece of shit that never really made it as a sports sedan. I feel sorry for your life if you think V6 camry is a fast car. Hopefully you will do better in life some day and would be able to buy something faster.
good vid guys! need more such content.. preferably twice a month ;)
no lap time???
EXACTLY!!! NO LAP TIME?????????????
At NCM Motorsport Park the GS did 1:32.16 and the Evora 400 did 1:39.56. That should tell you why they didn't have lap times for this episode. Childish Brits probably had a temper tantrum when they saw the results.
The Grand Sport can pull more G's than a 488. Compared to most super cars it isn't actually that quick in a straight line, it's what's called a momentum car because carrying speed through corners is what it does best.
Of course it can pull more G's than a 488, the tire difference is immense. When talking about the Grand Sport tires seem to be something people forget.
The vette has bigger, stickier tires than most competitors, even bigger/stickier than super cars like the 488, its not a necessarily fair comparison.
*****
Well the zo7 package on the Grand Sport runs Pilot Sport Cup 2s, which are semi-slicks.
I think the Corvette is the one I'd be happier with for everyday usage but the Lotus is just so special. Tough one.
I love how the only thing he can say about the Lotus is that it weighs less like it's a 1 ton difference, it's 100 pounds mate.
It’s like 300-400 pounds lighter. It handles significantly better and brakes much better. The driving experience is better in the Evora.
the lotus sounds amazing. I wasn't too sure about the front end when i first saw it but it's sort of growing on me. It's an outstanding car really
Is mclaren the only British car manufacturer that builds cars that isn't 10 years behind on technology?
EFK93 Aston Martin?
englishjames007 D irrelevant from a customers' standpoint.
englishjames007 D American cars offer performance for low cost. Germans offer performance and quality for higher cost. British cars (except mclaren and Land Rover) offer shit performance for the money.
EFK93 Yeah but in Chris Harris' test and some others on CZcams the P1 came out on top.
EFK93 I'll give mclaren a pass because the cars like the 650s and 675lt do have extraordinary performance. But cars like the F type R is as fast and as advanced as 997 turbo from 10 years ago lol
I really enjoyed this comparison. I'd like to see more of these :)
Id rather have the lotus, its more flawed than the corvette but its also more special.
Suggestive Biscuits .. oxymoron
lmao
No. You're Lotus fan..
Colds not really, I'm not talking about special in a technical sense more an intangible one.
Suggestive Biscuits Typical Alfa Romeo argument: My car is special because it sucks more. A 458 Speciale is special. A Huayra is special, a GT3 is special, a Tesla Model S P100D is special, a GT350R is special, a C63 AMG is special, but none of those cars are special because it's flawed.
This was great! Keep up the good work!
Both these cars are awesome and fun to drive! I have driven both and the Corvette has some feature and performance advantages (really cool features) but I have to say, when it comes to the pure driving experience, the Lotus is unquestionably more satisfying. The shear joy and sensation of the Lotus as it changes direction and carves a canyon road is sublime and cannot be measured by lap times or shown by way of comparison. I think the Corvette Grand sport is brilliant but the Lotus wins in my driving experience.
Excellent vid, guys. Thanks!
more of these please, thank you!
I LOL'd when the Brit said the Evora could "get round a corner quicker" than the Grand Sport Z07. I'm not sure it can get round a corner quicker than a standard Z51 Corvette.
I'm really astounded by the braking test as the Z06 (which weights more than the Grand Sport, but has the same brakes) was one of the best braking cars that Motor Trend ever tested.
And honestly how you guys could be at Gingerman and not post a lap time is ridiculous. Serous WTF right there.
Great video guys!! I wouldn't mind more "VS" type vids if this how they come, GOOD STUFF!!
Also the two of you have got great chemistry....
that was the most biased un-scientific comparison I've ever seen. Worthless comparison.
This was a properly good video. Keep those coming. Love the person to person interaction. Cars are awesome too
$90k for the Evora? It's got a much bigger problem than just questionable build quality at that sort of price - and it's a little thing called the Porsche Cayman GTS which is STILL $15k cheaper. Pricing it like that is not a smart business strategy by Lotus.
Corvette 3,252 pounds
Lotus 3,153 pounds
That's 99 pounds difference, or 3.0%. That's nothing.
There is no way the Vette weighs so low. Maybe more like 3500 pounds..
@Anton Zuykov The pushrod V8 sits surprisingly low and tight
@Anton Zuykov Its called front mid engine. Its a thing
@Sunamer Z the grand sport is the lightest Vette. It's all aluminum that's why its that light. Also, the V8 is big in displacement, at 6.2 litres, but the pushrod construction means it's extremely small in physical size. Why do you think the Chevy LS/LT small block is the most swappable and swapped engine in history?? There are Mazda Miata track cars running around with these motors in them. And it doesn't even add much weight to ruin the weight distribution. It is also all aluminum, which makes it very light for a V8 of that size, of any size, for that matter. It is lighter than some modern turbo straight sixes and V6's
@Sunamer Z corvettes have been front mid engine. The c8 is rear mid engine
The Vette is just a car for the real world, while the Lotus, any Lotus is just a great toy!
Nice video, quite different, but very interesting! Let's continue!
The Corvette is better in so many ways. But I'd rather have the Lotus.
I agree. Everyone and their brother has a corvette, but when you pull in with an evora youre going to turn way more heads
@@GBux512 I disagree. That lotus wouldn't turn heads as much as the Corvette. It might be more agile and more fun to drive simply due to its size, but it doesn't look or sound as good as the Corvette. Huge car enthusiasts might be more interested in the Lotus, but to the casual car guy, female, or just regular person on the street that doesn't care about cars...they would pay more attention to the Corvette. Unless you're in a place like Florida or California, a Corvette would be a much bigger head turner almost anywhere else.
Also, I know the British guy in the video didn't like it, but I think the red interior looks amazing without being overly done. Definitely a head turner that stands out and something people will notice right away.
@@Dan-cj9yg can't say I can relate with you. I do alot of car shows and cars and coffee meets and I can honestly say if the lotus shows up all eyes go onto it over the vette any day. Where I'm from corvettes are far to common and have about as much wow factor as just another mustang there are Too many. You never see a lotus where I'm at mainly. Only vette that's getting any attention here is the new mid engine vette and yes that one is a beautiful car. Me personally I love both the vette and the lotus. Lotus for the super car looks and handling and simply just being so different and then the vette for straightline speed and that beautiful note it makes. Each to there own.
Very well done guys!
7:15 The colours of the Union Flag match those of the Star Spangled Banner anyway.
I think you will find that the star spangled dooda thing matches the union jack, and for a reason, now what could that be??
That braking test was completely b.s....
Lotus 104ft! BS is correct vette in 90!
It was a chauffeur stop in the GS. Didn't even approach the limits of the tires- if the ABS kicked in it would have been some proof the brakes were being applied beyond just a soft pedal stop.
I like this shootout, please do many more
I don't believe for one second that the lotus actually stopped that fast. The only way I could see that result would be if a) the lotus couldn't actually get up to 60 or b) the corvettes brakes need to be warm since they're ceramic. Car and Driver and motor trend have both shown the corvette to stop faster than pretty much anything short of a race car.
I think the fact that the Lotus engine is from a Camry is a major bonus, it’s going to be sorted, reliable and inexpensive to maintain or even replace.
And a lot more fuel efficient.
Alex's laugh is just hilarious and contagious
Everytime I see an Evora, I remember the B is for Build guy!
awesome video
The Evora has a CAMRY V6!? And it's supercharged?! Can someone say, Camry TRD? Think about it, Toyota.
TRD LZR
If Toyota made a TRD Camry- i.e. a supercharged V6 or NA V8 derived from their racing engines with rear wheel drive and a 6 speed manual- I would be the first person on the list.
Exactly!
Guys they did it
The corvette makes the lotus seem like a rip off. Good value for money these American cars. Engine is more special, build quality is better and it's sounds sexy.
@Anton Zuykov you don't see them because nobody buys them 😂
The Sound of the Corvette is Awesome!! American Muscle💪
No track times? Lost opportunity!
This is such an odd comparison. The Grand Sport is in a totally different league of performance. The two cars appeal to different audiences. The braking on the Lotus is incredible though. MotorTrend has the 60-0 for the GS at 99ft I think which is insanely quick so I wonder what the Lotus is.
Actually a horse does push the cart. Mr Ed pushed against the collar, which is attached to the cart.
Good show
Even before they started the brake challenge, i knew they were going to mess it up. They should have warmed the ceramic brakes first, they are notorious for being complete shit cold.
Yes, you are correct. It is just a trend I have seen with reviews, sames stopping issues, like the M3/M4, and CTS-V with ceramics that have been reviewed.
u should do it vs the 410 sport!
or the Evora 430
In the Corvette, you can customize the steering to be lighter and be in track mode.
I was surprised how well the Lotus kept up with the GS. Not bad at all.
you can change the steering settings to stay light even in track mode for the corvette
come on, no lap times? what a shame
A real USA versus UK car Battle: Dodge Viper ACR vs Mclaren P1
Vegaspsycho and the ACR would out-handle it
I hate when people bring up the ACR, because that thing got wings to rival the entire F1 lineup... Its insane... Its a super impressive track weapon, I'm not denying that but people throw it up against everything now and screams, FUCK YEAH, ACR beats everyone!! hahaha... well, what are these people gonna do after 2017 when the Viper is a gonner... If they compared say the GTS or something, more normal spec, or R/T, I dont remember all the versions anymore but... you know... something without fins sticking out of the exhaust pipe.....
Stefan Karlsson well the ACR already did beat the P1 on Laguna Seca
Stefan Karlsson is the viper going out of production or only the ACR version ?
or the Ford GT
I'm calling BS on the braking. There's no way. Get them both hot and see what happens. MT tested and got 104' for the 400 and 90' for the GS, this makes more sense. I bet even the steel binders on GS would beat the 400, especially cold.
You have to do it again with the Evora Sport 410 ! ^^
Looks like there’s a manual in the corvette but i can see som hiddius red pedals on the steering wheel? Have i missed something?
One obvious thing they never seem to bring up in these comparisons is exclusivity. Richard Hammond made a joke about it on Top Gear when comparing the M100 Elan to the Mazda Miata, but when you’re talking about flashy sports cars like these, it’s actually an important factor. If you have the Corvette, you’re going to be seeing other people in Corvettes like it all the time. If you own the Lotus, depending on where you live, it’s possible you could drive it for years without ever seeing another one on the road. Evora shave been sold in the US for a decade now, and I’ve seen three of them on the road in that time. One in Tampa, and two in L.A.
I'd love to see those Corvettes over here in the U.K., are they available here in RHD?
EFK93 If the Corvette was as well priced in the U.K. as it is in the US then they would sell extremely well in my opinion. I sat in one at the Goodwood festival and was extremely impressed with the driving position it had so I would get one if my circumstances allowed.
Did anybody else notice how much the Lotus dives under breaking? I like the front end on the Lotus much better in terms of appeal, I think the Corvette is hideous particularly from the rear. I don't like the way they pinch the Lotus before the rear tires from the bottom, I think they should've made it more like a traditional mid engine low to the ground type sports car. I would love nothing more than to see a Corvette become, mid engine, stick shift, rear drive. Even though I think the build quality for a Corvette is poor, well American cars in general, they just somehow seem to fall apart and start rattling quickly but obviously in this case and many others you can't argue bang per dollar. One more thing Toyota or not I found the sound Lonus makes more appealing.
NIGHTFOX Lol well your obviously biased if you think the camry v6 sounds better then the corvettes v8. Also the current c7 build quality is not poor. It's very good. You've probably never been in 1 let alone driven one.
+Matt Budesa
Your opinion is "obviously biased"....yeah, dude. It's called an opinion smh
To the kids in the comment section arguing over which is best, I would say SHUT UP. They're both great, fantastic cars. They are both winners in the age of dual clutches, turbo chargers and electric power steering. It's just a matter of taste. Those who'd want a mid-engined exotic sports car will buy the Lotus and those who'd want a front-engined V8 that's not as exclusive as the Lotus will get the Corvette. Frankly, no one gives a shit which is faster on a racetrack unless they're playing Grand Turismo.
So arguing your arse over which is best is just utterly childish which reminds me of the fact that most of the people in the comments are 11-year kids anyways, so it wouldn't be worth getting mad lol
Arya Ahmadi Until that sweet mid engined Vette comes out.
The corvette engine alone makes it better. That exhaust note is fantastic! Gotta wonder if the carbon ceramics were warm when they did the brake test.
You can adjust the steering separately from track mode in the infotainment center. Put it in track mode then set the steering to sport. Problem solved. Loved the polite arguing. Both amazing cars. I owm a 14 Corvette Z51 Supercharged.
why are there pedals on the corvette when it is a manuel??
That Corvette is just Gorgeous...And it got the Muscles and handling as well for change money..
Manuals are way more fun, my driving instructor said, to really master the craft u need to drive a stick for you to 4 or 5 years after u get your licence. I didn't unfortunately, been practicing for years before on my Dads parked lada in high school & whenever he drove he let me shift sometime pre teen. Until I decided to shift myself, without asking, loud noise, engine sound like it was falling out, one box later & "wah du you boy, you nuh hear mim she wait" see I learned about the clutch the hard way. Also got boxed leaving the company jeep in neutral on a pointed to the sea incline , handbrake down, fishing trip, another box,. Can't recall the quote able, side effect maybe. The jeep miraculously didn't end up in the ocean. I leant about handbrakes the really hard way. The side effect, aced the driving test never stalled once when learning, only a few times after a sunny & hiace summer job delivery van with a loose gearbox, the sunny had a highlight tripwire clutch, & my drunk friend whom I was, designated driving him home, was trying to kill us both & laughing, trying to pull up the handbrake @ highway speeds & saying that he is gonna kill us off, laughing about it to. Laughing at me when I stalled @the light watching him fearfully, acholol is also hell of a drug, he don't recall that & ib forgave him I guess was bestman @ his wedding. These cars are like us I guess, just a bunch of dicks on the prowl, going ape for apexes, that's what the Gees is for. The lotus had better brakes, maybe the vet has more fade resistant brakes. Oddly enough I wonder which had better fuel economy, the highly tuned supercharged v6 with a light foot, one the v8 in Eco mode running in 4cylinder mode. Maybe a normal vette packages vette without the aero is more frugal, but I think the Evorab wins that race. Hard to pick if I had to, this is a left brain right brain war. Introverted extrovert wants the evora for obvious reasons, it's more classy, handles more intimately if not capably better & its rarer, the perfect therapy tool for am winding road or a pretty woman fantasy roll play weekend getaway with the wife, or not. ;-). The bet screams track monster & geeks toy, that data recorder I'd one of the mission reasons why I'd pick the current caddilac CTS V over its euros rivals, that plus the handling & style, I'd love to see u compare that trio BMW,Benz I've four, if include the Audi. Please strike me down for my tacky punctuation skills., even if errors persist, like mind think alike, don't feel great applies to me right now. I'll end now, tho space is not an issue, principle is or was & is again, hive mind in effect ;-), so they already knew that, hence no proofread, apply the requisite mental corrections by Google docs-ing thought & brain wave. ? Y only half duplex if it was good intentions
Both sexy cars, but my dream car is the Evora
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Haha I've never seen you laughing like this before Alex at around 5:00 - must've been funny filming it! A bit of a strange comparison though, Lotus doesn't have a chance, even for a british car enthusiast!
Seriously?! This wasn't even a contest. The Lotus ONLY had a chance if you were comparing weekend track day toys. Why did you even bother with this farce???
Two track car’s that don’t complete a lap. Good review.
I like them both!
this is the kind of shit we want to see! Love when you compare cars.
Wait if the Corvette has a manual transmission, what are the paddles behind the wheel for?
CCBs do not provide more braking torque, they just offer better heat fade resistance. Most race teams (minus the top tier guys like F1) run steel rotors still, as they're significantly cheaper, and stop just as well.
Comon guys, like is that even a question.. If someone came to you and told you - here, you can have a free car, you can choose between new Corvette and this Lotus, would you seriously even consider going for Lotus? I mean i'd never buy Amercan muscle car, but fuck me this Vette seems like a loads of fun compared to the New Evora..
Don’t have a problem with the engine. Bigger issue I have is superchargers aren’t allowed in GTE so it did horrible at lemans lol
With those extremely wide tires I thought the GS would do a lot better. It has wider front tires than that Lotus has as rear tires, which helps a lot in cornering and stopping, hence that 1,2 G in corners. It seems GS has more traction than handling, while the Lotus has more handling.
Other things that must be considered: that Chevy v8 is bulletproof and people are getting close to 30mpg highway, also repairs will be exponentially cheaper. They can be daily driven with little to no issues. Lotus is gorgeous, but Corvette wins in my book.
Win for the corvette. The corvette doesnt weight that much more which makes the Lotus not that appealing. Also the corvette looks sooooo much better any every angle.
the rear look like batmobile
arif rifz yes but still better than the evora
I find they look better in real life than they do on film. I've seen both cars up close (and driven the vette), but i was always taken aback by how much lower and flatter and wider the vette is in the flesh. In general the vette design is just better overall than in previous generations. The Evora, by contrast, is less physically-appealing than the Exige - still feeling like a 'toy car', but looking more sedan-ish. The Exige at least looked exactly like what it was = a lightweight track car.
Dude, wtf have you been smoking??? :/
engine's up front for accel center of gravity & it sits on the front wheels for turn in grip i have a 190e
turns out this is the best vette of all very sorted
With modern safety standards and government regulation on engines it’s making lotus’s ethos of light weight over power an impossible goal
Their cars will continue to get bulky and heavy like every other manufacturer
On top of that the costs of development only increase having the largest impact on smaller manufacturers like lotus
Chevrolet can develope a new mid engined corvette and plan on making its money back over the coming decade
Unfortunately I dont see lotus surviving many more years
Brakes on the lotus are superb
I understand expanding your content to include US viewers, but if you're going to mention measurements in the imperial system could you please add annotations in metric units? I'd really like that, and I'd bet a lot of others would too.
fantastic video guys. You should make more shootouts with two presenters like this it makes it more entertaining to watch. Also, the corvette actually handles better (pulls more g's) and this stereotype of American cars are only good in a straight line shouldnt be brought up all the time.
I don't get this comparison, but it is four years old. A 2019 Corvette Z06 with the Z07 performance package sells for the same price as a current model year Evora.
Yes, Camry with a roots style blower.
Damn that's crazy. I'm buying an evora tho
Haha! Great video!
I'm pretty sure they have the weight of the grand sport wrong, I think its around 3400-3500
The engine doesn't pull or push a car. It's the wheels that do the pulling or pushing based on whether it's a FWD or a RWD. The position of the engine only changes the location of the CG. That's a very stupid argument, 'the horse doesn't push a cart, it pulls it'. Anybody who has put a 24-can coke crate in the front of their Walmart cart knows how difficult it is to turn, compared to placing the crate towards the back of the cart. It's basic high school physics. Can't believe someone like Enzo Ferrari said something that stupid.
Wait. So you have a track but no lap times?
That Grand Sport is a lot of car for the money. I really think it is better package than the Z06. Plus it doesn't overheat on hot laps. The Lotus is very nice, but it is a lot of money for a oversized Miata on steroids.
What's the paddles on the steering wheel of the Vette for?
To activate and deactivate the blip-shift feature for the 7-speed manual transmission.
Manuel Carrillo III I see. Same as the new Mustang then.
Guys, no lap times?
What’s the mpg of the corvette????!
I think the only clear winner here is neither. The one that engages the buyer more is the easy winner. Both are masterpieces. I'm a Yank and a fan of the Z06, but the Lotus is also a damn good car, and a lighter weight car is generally just more fun, though lets be honest, you wouldn't kick either out of bed for farting. I'd be curious to see what the 410 does against the Z06.
Very Good, i prefer Lotus!
These two need together in reviews more often! Edit: do an actual review next time.
Umm, that acceleration test... the Corvette didn't "destroy" the Lotus. It was a clear, legit win - but only by coupla body lengths.
It's crazy to see a Corvette with an engine more than twice the size only weigh 100lb more while having way more power, wider tires and more features.
Yeah, its not so much a case of the Vette being super-lean as much as it seems odd for a lotus to be over 3000lbs.
seems all the US safety regulations have fattened it up.
DynamiteDupree You'd think, but no - they're ~3100lbs (1400kg) from the factory, UK and US alike.
www.lotuscars.com/evora-400
DynamiteDupree I think the real difference is that American cars aren't as "fat" as they used to be. Everything is aluminum now - chassis and engine - and they've also become more weight conscious in every other area, less for performance and more to do with touting mpg numbers, maybe.
Where's the Shelby GT350R vid? It's my dream car.. you're tantalizing
"horses does not pushing the cars" - so going this way, you want front wheel drive car?
I want a lotus evora to ls swap it light with 700 hp should be a fun project
Lotus should actually do a 3.2 twin turbo unit for this car... Finally the power the Evora deserves. I think.
Being a tall guy (1.92 meters), the choices are made simpler for me: choose the spacious car.
Are those paddles on a manual??
Rev match