Elevator safety test goes very wrong! (Machine collapse)

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  • čas přidán 15. 11. 2018
  • See the diagonal side supports fail first, followed by the rest of the frame.
    A video that someone sent me!
    As someone sent me this video, I have no details other than what you see.
    Engineer was incredibly lucky to be standing behind the frame when it collapsed!
    The word from my lift engineer friend is "INCORRECT TESTING PROCEDURE AND INADEQUATE FRAME STRENGTH". They don't make things like they used to!

Komentáře • 145

  • @jix177
    @jix177 Před 5 lety +61

    I've built sturdier frames using Lego...

    • @Engineer9736
      @Engineer9736 Před 5 lety +1

      After kids in Africa and Darude Sandstorm, legos is the new CZcams joke? 😀 I see everyone talking about legos.

    • @OtisSeries1
      @OtisSeries1 Před 2 lety

      dude so true cant even break a piece xd

  • @dykodesigns
    @dykodesigns Před 5 lety +69

    Holy cow! That was a serious structural fault. The frame on which the motor sits may be sufficient to support the vertical load but it clearly did not have sufficient lateral stability. The posts and the beams looked like they had simple bolted connections. The connection will function as a hinge if it has no stiffners or unsufficient bolts. It functioned as a house of cards. This could have been prevented if the frame had either diagonal bracing or more rigidity in the members/connection between them. This clip was a good demonstration of some rather fundamental structural engineering principles. I thought mechanical engineers knew how to design structures for mobile loads..... appearantly the one that designed this frame probably overlooked the aspects of rigidity. A lot of modern lifts also seem to have no proper chassis anymore but depend on folded sheet metal instead.

    • @mrmattandmrchay
      @mrmattandmrchay  Před 5 lety +14

      good quality comment, and 'food for thought' as I would normally say!

    • @dykodesigns
      @dykodesigns Před 5 lety +2

      @@mrmattandmrchay Also it looks like they used UNP-100 profiles for the posts and the are oriented in their weak axis (if you consider the moment of inertia of the cross section). I would have used at least HEA or HEB sections and added some stiffners in the corners as well. Often you see that they place a raised motor like this on a reinforced concrete base. Concrete is much stiffer then steel and the amount of reinforcement can control the bending stiffness of the joins. Reinforced concrete is ideal to create frames that can withstand bending moments in their joins. This is ofcourse also easy to do with steel as well, if detailled correctly which was not the case here. I get the idea that lift company did not know how to engineer this properly and just cobbled something together whereas the big companies like Kone or Otis, etc have their own mechanical/structural engineers who know how to design this the right way.

    • @picobyte
      @picobyte Před 5 lety +1

      That frame was properly failing. I've seen stuff in some countries that just barely holds and has humans riding it. Those should really watch this video.

  • @hotmixer2010
    @hotmixer2010 Před 5 lety +8

    In Asia, Fujitec, Sigma and Schindler lifts and escalators are now all made in China.
    And they breakdown like there's no tomorrow.
    Has been the norm since 10 years ago.

  • @ag6371
    @ag6371 Před 5 lety +5

    This is why old elevators last longer than those generics.

  • @dusterdude238
    @dusterdude238 Před 5 lety +6

    this particular elevator was made by the Folgers coffee company "Good till the last Drop"

  • @themaconeau
    @themaconeau Před 5 lety +11

    I can't see how this would be a major lift company installing this 😮

  • @povilasstaniulis9484
    @povilasstaniulis9484 Před 5 lety +5

    Wow ! The lift engineer nearly got killed by the collapsing frame.
    That frame should have been tested at the factory before shipping. That's what you get when you try to make things as cheaply as possible.

  • @mrmike1972
    @mrmike1972 Před 5 lety +13

    They didn't use enough duct tape.

    • @flyeren35
      @flyeren35 Před 5 lety +1

      Absolutely...

    • @s8wc3
      @s8wc3 Před 4 lety

      I don't see a SINGLE ziptie on this thing! WTF?

  • @ElevatorsfromItaly
    @ElevatorsfromItaly Před 5 lety +9

    Just incredible. What a serious technical fault. Never seen anything like this.

    • @ElevatorsfromItaly
      @ElevatorsfromItaly Před 5 lety +1

      @Martyn Watson sincerely, I've seen horrible components but never seen things like this.

  • @nascar0509
    @nascar0509 Před 5 lety +5

    A metal structure such as that should have 45 degree steel fillets at all corners to prevent such a catastrophic failure.

  • @stabilini
    @stabilini Před 5 lety +5

    Anyone with little engeniering knowledge noticed that structure was weak.

  • @IanGSully
    @IanGSully Před rokem

    Holy shit!!!! And that’s why there are inspections for a reason!

  • @dickcheney6
    @dickcheney6 Před 4 lety +1

    And then the robot voice in the elevator says we're experiencing "minor" technical difficulties

  • @adamb6271
    @adamb6271 Před 5 lety +9

    Wow, that’s crazy!

  • @HardDriveGuruOfficial
    @HardDriveGuruOfficial Před 5 lety +8

    I wouldn't expect anything less from modern equipment!

  • @sussyballs1819
    @sussyballs1819 Před 2 lety +2

    That what happens when u dont use flextape

  • @Wash_Wash
    @Wash_Wash Před 11 měsíci

    This happened in Turkey. A lift made by generic/lester of Turkey...

  • @laystrefeed1656
    @laystrefeed1656 Před 5 lety +33

    Кто от будни лифтовика?

  • @TheOriginalAndysGarage

    You can tell just by looking at that frame holding the motors then it sure as hell ain't strong enough to carry an elevator

  • @Alexis_du_60
    @Alexis_du_60 Před 5 lety +2

    That's a catastrophic failure for y'all!

  • @ContentDeleted-mr3rt
    @ContentDeleted-mr3rt Před 5 lety +14

    Does it have Made In China printed on the side?

  • @WafiyNF24alt
    @WafiyNF24alt Před rokem +1

    This is ThyseenKrupp lift machine room right??

  • @awesgaming9556
    @awesgaming9556 Před rokem

    The elevator: okay okay were falling
    The rider: help pls
    The heaven: ok your comming with me
    EMERGENCY BREAK: NOT EVEN CLOSE BABE

  • @LBSiUK
    @LBSiUK Před 5 lety +7

    Technically works as a governor?

  • @Patty-qy8qh
    @Patty-qy8qh Před 5 lety +1

    They obviously used the wrong glue!

  • @cacaPoopTrain
    @cacaPoopTrain Před rokem

    (Edit, kinda looks like a bad weld to me)
    Was the frame bolted instead of welded? I feel like a lot of contractors can forget how much the tensile strength of bolts can actually affect things.

  • @areenp5320
    @areenp5320 Před 5 lety +2

    When will be the next video which will be quite long

  • @irgendwerausbayern1999
    @irgendwerausbayern1999 Před 5 měsíci

    Well... I would not want to be in this death-trap elevator. It's a good thing I have never gotten stuck in one. But it was close twice, let me tell:
    1st time: That was at the shopping center in Aschaffenburg. I was on my way up to parking deck 8, other people wanted to leave at 6. When we arrived at 6, the doors didn't open. I tried the "" button, but that didn't do anything. So I tried to open the door by hand and that caused it to open very slowly. All the other people left the elevator. And I seemed to have fixed it, although I'm not an elevator technician.
    2nd time: That happened at a parking garage in Würzburg. I rode the elevator for fun, but that almost failed, because the door at -1 didn't open. Luckily, it closed and I could go back up to the ground floor. Then I went down to -1 to call the elevator from there. Again, the doors didn't open. So I tried to slide it open a millimeter a few times and that fixed it. I then tried the elevator out, and it was working fine again.

  • @slendermanRblx
    @slendermanRblx Před 5 lety

    When will you release the final broadmoor siren video? Siren M

  • @pushpalatharai3544
    @pushpalatharai3544 Před 4 lety

    The elevator technician is one lucky guy who moved to the side. By the way which elevator brand is it

  • @TheTheo58
    @TheTheo58 Před 5 lety +2

    I have seen videos of traction machines mounted on machine beams elevated above the shaft in the machine room, however these structures were massive and crossed braced to support the weight of the machine down to the anchoring on the floor. Since when do traction machines get their 3 phase power from an overhead light fixture? Some commercial installations have 277V 3 phase for large banks of lighting, however an elevator requires a separate 3 phase circuit.

    • @mrmattandmrchay
      @mrmattandmrchay  Před 5 lety +2

      You're right, the three phase motor supply is normally contained in conduit which runs up alongside the motor. I do have a couple of theories though - this is just ahead of the brake, so perhaps it's a supply for the brake or even the motor fan (if it has one) . Also, the electrical contractors probably installed the supply ahead of the lift being fitted, so without knowing exactly where to leave the containment, they left it overhead ready to be terminated later when the frame and motor was installed. I doubt whether they would have done that with a 3 phase supply though!
      Unfortunately I cannot confirm or deny anything as this is just a video that was sent to me.

    • @albertharmon2738
      @albertharmon2738 Před 5 lety

      This may have been a modernisation job. Loads of lifts have 3 phase supply to motor coming in from above via trunking this saves trip hazards if on floor or ducking under or climbing over if in line with machine motor. If this were a mod job it would explain why trunking not yet be finished as machine would be a smaller size. The wiring to the end may be to a tacho at the end of gearbox or stop switch but hard to make out.

  • @Bendie0810
    @Bendie0810 Před 5 lety +1

    And thats another reason I take the stairs. No, just joking. Is it already safe if this happens? Because of the extra brake rope?

  • @blue.light.fazbear
    @blue.light.fazbear Před 2 lety

    Looks like they didn’t put enough Pritt Stick on that motor

  • @FM60260
    @FM60260 Před 5 lety

    Shenlong are at it again

  • @richardgreen9531
    @richardgreen9531 Před 5 lety

    Was this an installation in a building? Looks like a R&D test setup, but is it?

  • @theclueguy3388
    @theclueguy3388 Před 5 lety +1

    did the elevator crash?

  • @OtisSeries1
    @OtisSeries1 Před 2 lety

    thank god it was a newer lift (i guess from context)

  • @RediffusionMusic
    @RediffusionMusic Před 4 lety

    I'm actually pretty sure this is the machine of a Spanish IMEM Ascensores lift..

  • @elevatorsinwales9792
    @elevatorsinwales9792 Před 4 lety

    Jackson Lift Group: This May Happen To One of Our Lifts But Oh Well, We’re Unreliable anyway.

  • @KIRBZVIDS
    @KIRBZVIDS Před 5 lety +1

    luck matey took that one step back that is bad for a lift company to even sell somthing like that

  • @satoshiaaron
    @satoshiaaron Před 5 lety

    This bedplate generally is pretty disgusting. I mean you can tell before the video even starts that the gear is not mounted appropriately at all.

  • @jingarjay8754
    @jingarjay8754 Před 5 lety

    I think this lift company has two choices,first choice us to build the fame stronger which costs less,or second build the frame flimsy and destroy the motor which costs more

  • @user-fg1qs6rc5t
    @user-fg1qs6rc5t Před 5 lety

    У нас лебедка больничного лифта кувырнулась, когда на струбцинах приподняли противовес. Тоже весело было.

  • @MichalM
    @MichalM Před 5 lety +2

    When is the next video that meets mrmattandmrchay criteria?

    • @mrmattandmrchay
      @mrmattandmrchay  Před 5 lety +2

      I have 4 on the go (one I've been editing for 2 months) - waiting to record voice-overs, but I don't seem to get the time! (the usual excuses lol)

  • @danielrichardbond
    @danielrichardbond Před 5 lety +1

    There’s something very odd about this video. I’d really like to know the background as to what’s going on here. I mean, I’m no engineer but even I know that frame doesn’t look sturdy enough. I’m also trying to work out how testing the governor can put more strain on the sheaves when all that momentum is essentially transferred to the guides. Unless it was just the extra speed that put a strain on everything. So many questions.

    • @psirvent8
      @psirvent8 Před 5 lety

      I think it's the sudden stop of the motor (which was rotating at full speed) that made the whole frame collapse.

    • @danielrichardbond
      @danielrichardbond Před 5 lety

      psirvent8 Lucky the whole thing didn’t go through the floor.

  • @bitmadmax
    @bitmadmax Před 5 lety

    At least the governor works !

  • @Shnlmukpglifts_liftenthu-255

    Looks like he is in big trouble

  • @DieselDucy
    @DieselDucy Před 3 lety +1

    Whoops

  • @Aawsomeguy
    @Aawsomeguy Před 3 lety

    Whoever installed that elevator drive machine is in deep trouble.

    • @craigbliss6748
      @craigbliss6748 Před rokem

      It’s not who installed it, it’s who designed it

    • @Aawsomeguy
      @Aawsomeguy Před rokem

      @@craigbliss6748 Thank you.

  • @hhealey719
    @hhealey719 Před 5 lety

    That guy was lucky he was standing on the other side of the governor looking at it looks like he would have been crushed by the wall and motor..

  • @ALANSWEETIES99
    @ALANSWEETIES99 Před 5 lety

    You scare me this elevator clash out of spoiled is!!!

  • @passacaglia28
    @passacaglia28 Před 5 lety

    YIKES!!

  • @colinsphoneemail
    @colinsphoneemail Před 3 lety

    probably crapped his pants

  • @Volkswarren
    @Volkswarren Před 4 lety

    lets just say that is a schindler 2400

  • @akunsaya6538
    @akunsaya6538 Před 4 lety

    the engine holder makes it really not a small intention

  • @pantoauf4027
    @pantoauf4027 Před 5 lety

    Holy Mother Mary!!!

  • @ZZ9ProductionsOFFICIAL
    @ZZ9ProductionsOFFICIAL Před 5 lety +1

    WOAH

  • @MrBrendanabc
    @MrBrendanabc Před 5 lety

    Dude go buy a lottery ticket. I've had tests go bad was that full load full speed.

  • @elonmask50
    @elonmask50 Před 5 lety

    Whoops, sorry...

  • @topopops
    @topopops Před 5 lety

    Needs more tape

  • @scottmuckleston3308
    @scottmuckleston3308 Před 5 lety

    Did you see the news on line to day (BBC NEWS or USA TODAY),
    An elevator inside Chicago's former Hancock building dropped 84 floors before trapping six people inside, local news outlets reported. Rescuers arrived shortly after the fall early Friday morning to cut a hole in the building's wall and free those inside.
    The accident unfolded at in the 875 North Michigan Avenue building, formerly known as the John Hancock Center and the city's fourth tallest building, the Chicago Tribune reported. Guests entered the elevator after leaving building's Signature Room - a bar with stunning views of downtown from the 95th floor - before at least one cables holding the car broke.
    eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/11/19/elevator-chicagos-former-hancock-building-falls-84-floors/2056499002/

  • @rs2143
    @rs2143 Před 5 lety

    It meets china standard ?

  • @SproutyPottedPlant
    @SproutyPottedPlant Před 5 lety

    Oh OOF!!!!!

  • @shawnaburns5158
    @shawnaburns5158 Před 2 lety

    Yeah and they're busy ripping out and destroying the older heavy elevator units SMH

  • @grandinosour
    @grandinosour Před 5 lety +3

    This has to be in another country...
    The electrical wiring does not even come close to code for american soil.

    • @BritishAPT
      @BritishAPT Před 5 lety +1

      mrmattandmrchay is based in England (uk) so they have different codes, probably what allowed to something this cheap to be installed.

    • @Nitrxgen
      @Nitrxgen Před 5 lety +1

      this isn't mrmattandmrchay's video, read the description

    • @Engineer9736
      @Engineer9736 Před 5 lety +2

      Nitrxgen There is still not a single country mentioned in this video, so it’s worthless to talk about “this must be another country”. Maybe MrMatt was on holiday in Dubai and his friend was in Pakistan.

    • @izools
      @izools Před 5 lety +1

      British electrical safety codes are some of the safest and most stringent in the world. God knows where this is, it doesn't even look like the mech for a passenger elevator; perhaps for some kind of building hoist? I made more sturdy mechanics out of lego when I was still in nappies / diapers.

    • @hoofie2002
      @hoofie2002 Před 5 lety

      @@BritishAPT no chance that is in the UK - electrical codes are extremely strict there and enforced.

  • @NESTABROWN9
    @NESTABROWN9 Před 5 lety

    Is being done it kill someone elevator cause drop end is... What are you doing elevator motoring?!

  • @mygoogleusernameisthis2249

    Lol lego frame

  • @misterwint
    @misterwint Před 5 lety

    OMG!

  • @martinlavoie4002
    @martinlavoie4002 Před 5 lety +5

    Looks fake don’t know if any Passenger elevator build on such a flimsy frame all machines I have ever had to lift in order to put a rope gripper have had huge H or I Beas put in place and gussets welded anyhow funny to see

    • @martinlavoie4002
      @martinlavoie4002 Před 5 lety

      Rahan bus content and more wow can’t believe they would build something so cheap I would think building codes in Europe would be just as strict as here in North America

  • @benaissataibi3648
    @benaissataibi3648 Před 5 lety

    Can some one explain what happen exactely please

    • @jani140
      @jani140 Před 5 lety +1

      In this safety test the lift car is forced to "crash" into the top of the shaft by overriding the controller. The inspector likes to see that the traction wheels will slip instead of winding up or bending the equipment. This is why this test is performed.
      Normally this should not be possible at all. There are multiple safety mechanisms that prevent the controller from winding the lift car physically into the top of the shaft. But the drive must be safe beyond that even if multiple controlls fail at the same time.
      To do this test, the controller has to be physically rewired.

    • @benaissataibi3648
      @benaissataibi3648 Před 5 lety

      @@jani140
      Thank you so much

    • @albertharmon2738
      @albertharmon2738 Před 5 lety

      The guy is activating the safety governor in the motor room with his foot. This will mechanically pull in the safety gear usually under the lift car to wedge it in the shaft against the guides car travelling in the down direction. The momentum of the lift stopping at full speed has caused the weak frame to buckle and collapse. Got nothing to do with crashing top of shaft. Completely different test using buffers for terminal stopping at full speed.

  • @Testamatta1985
    @Testamatta1985 Před 5 lety

    Carpenteria metallica fatta proprio a CAZZO DI CANE....

  • @user-yh5lv1wz5n
    @user-yh5lv1wz5n Před 5 lety

    Ограничитель скорости проверяется при движении вверх . Клинья на малой скорости . Инструкцию не читал - это спасло возможного пассажира . Жёсткость лебедки недостаточная при аварии.

  • @yuiopYT
    @yuiopYT Před 5 lety +2

    DON'T REPLACE GOOD WORKING ELEVATORS WITH CHEAP GENERIC

  • @albert3801
    @albert3801 Před 5 lety

    The poor person conducting the test would have needed a change of underwear!!

  • @foxbodygarageamerica9382
    @foxbodygarageamerica9382 Před 5 lety +1

    Cmon you kidding me , is that a elevator for passengers or a dumbwaiter or this is totally bogus

    • @mrmattandmrchay
      @mrmattandmrchay  Před 5 lety +1

      I don't think this could be faked, if the guy had been standing beside the machine it would snapped his leg off. Isn't there a major artery at the top of your leg - serious injury if not death?

  • @robnation2475
    @robnation2475 Před 3 lety

    Yep, lots of idiots out there. Weird build.

  • @qeelevators2960
    @qeelevators2960 Před 4 lety

    Imagine how crapy the brand is! This should be illegal!! (I think it is)

  • @peterdeutscher1442
    @peterdeutscher1442 Před 5 lety

    What is this motoring????… What the hell!!!

  • @izools
    @izools Před 5 lety +3

    It looks like it was made out of meccano 😳
    Probably an Orona 🤣🤣🤣

    • @MichalM
      @MichalM Před 5 lety +1

      Not an Orona - Orona is one of the only good Generic companies out there in my opinion

    • @MichalM
      @MichalM Před 5 lety +1

      @@freerk242 They are a generic lift company because their lifts are a little bit flimsy.

    • @MichalM
      @MichalM Před 5 lety +1

      @@freerk242 You might be right - I thought that Orona bought in parts for their lifts???!!! Blind VF's are generic. I say that if their lifts are not everywhere, they are a generic company. But they are a really good company!!! Have you seen their latest lift?

    • @MichalM
      @MichalM Před 5 lety +1

      Agreed - I'm in the UK and I can't find an Orona near to me that has the voice :(

  • @asetatlikalem
    @asetatlikalem Před rokem

    This is not in ohio, İTS in turkey.

  • @sc_143y
    @sc_143y Před 5 lety +1

    Russia?

    • @sc_143y
      @sc_143y Před 5 lety +1

      я украин пацан

    • @turbocooler79
      @turbocooler79 Před 5 lety +1

      Нет, конечно. Мы ещё не настолько безумны, чтобы лебёдку на из дверных уголков сваренную раму ставить))

  • @MichalM
    @MichalM Před 5 lety +1

    2nd!!!

  • @marialenz4488
    @marialenz4488 Před 5 lety

    Uhhhhhh

  • @cadillacman8223
    @cadillacman8223 Před 5 lety

    Get what u pay for

  • @_unaman_
    @_unaman_ Před 5 lety

    Збс

  • @zonelocking
    @zonelocking Před 4 lety +1

    Looks fake to me. The diagonal steelwork just falls apart. If those joints are welded this wouldn't have happened; the steelwork would have deformed. There are loads of those machine frames in service and none of the others do that. I smell a rat.

    • @mrmattandmrchay
      @mrmattandmrchay  Před 4 lety

      Yep, I hear what you are saying (I thought the same, as 'why' is the engineer filming?! Looks like a setup as you say). But then I had second thoughts - this guy could have been killed? I mean, he is inches away from being injured. Also, this does not look like an old installation ready to be decommissioned (e.g. he intended to smash it up/destroy it) so it's a bit weird that "he intended to destroy it". And also, going back to why he is filming, activating the govenor is not something you do every day, so I suppose you could say he wanted to film it as it may be a dramatic thing which he wanted to replay (got more than he bargained for!).
      So "for me", I think this is genuine, but I repect your thought also!

    • @zonelocking
      @zonelocking Před 4 lety

      @@mrmattandmrchay The more I watch it the more fake it looks. Welded joints don't just pop apart, all at once. The weld would have been stronger than the angle section itself. As to why he's stood next to it, while he trips the governor? God knows.

    • @darbywing2
      @darbywing2 Před 4 lety

      @@zonelocking It is most likely that the unit was only tack welded together and someone else was supposed to come along and weld it fully; but never completed the job.

  • @eduards9868
    @eduards9868 Před 4 lety

    Wth?

  • @SamsungGalaxyS23Ultra
    @SamsungGalaxyS23Ultra Před 2 lety

    Ultra cheap elevator. Only for $7500

  • @joeslinky
    @joeslinky Před 5 lety

    They do make things better than they used to... this piece of shit unfortunately was poorly made.

  • @EDISONTECH
    @EDISONTECH Před 5 lety +1

    Cheap generic

  • @motorsvdk722
    @motorsvdk722 Před 5 lety

    Пхахахахахахаххахахазхх

  • @AkmalPROMVP
    @AkmalPROMVP Před rokem +1

    Generic

  • @toddthegamer
    @toddthegamer Před 4 lety

    Cheap frame poorly assembled

  • @qeelevators2960
    @qeelevators2960 Před 4 lety

    What a piece of crap generic lift!