Testing the limits - The Free-Fall Test

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  • čas přidán 28. 03. 2017
  • What happens when we let an elevator weighing tons drop hundreds of feet? We do it all the time, just to make sure that they are safe for you. See how. www.kone.com/en/company/innova...
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Komentáře • 68

  • @nelsonahlvik6650
    @nelsonahlvik6650 Před 2 lety +36

    "AUDIOJUNGLE"

  • @jdhumm
    @jdhumm Před 5 lety +38

    I am a retired elevator mechanic and have performed hundreds of five year full load overspeed safety tests. I have seen various failures happen during a few of those tests but only had two units that I can recall that the safeties did not set and they went fully loaded into the pits at very high speeds. One was due to a governor that would not trip and the other was due to wind up safeties that were rusted in place. Both of these units were "non contract" customers who were in a state that did not require building owners to subscribe to service contracts with elevator service companies who in turn kept the elevators in safe operating condition.

    • @SergeAndOkkieForever
      @SergeAndOkkieForever Před 4 lety +3

      I was in a kone lift before christmas. The elevator jammed then fell the breaks screamed and we landed on something which bounced us around it happened 15 times in 45 minutes it's still being investigated but I'm trying to understand what actually happend to me. I've been left traumatised and have severe whiplash with a locked neck and a back injury the doors would not open and the emergency phone didn't work either

    • @dixon-yarmouth899
      @dixon-yarmouth899 Před 2 lety +3

      @@SergeAndOkkieForever the hydraulic stop at the bottom of the pit is what most likely stopped you and gave you whiplash.
      This is why I don't trust elevators

    • @user-to6zp7sj4e
      @user-to6zp7sj4e Před 2 lety

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    • @Mei-od8sw
      @Mei-od8sw Před rokem

      Hello, I have an important question to ask you!

    • @Mei-od8sw
      @Mei-od8sw Před rokem

      @@SergeAndOkkieForever hello can u please tell me more.

  • @jpe1
    @jpe1 Před 4 lety +24

    Who else is here from the Cheddar vid comments? Watching this vid I see that Cheddar took footage from *this vid* yet still got their explanations wrong.

  • @christhompson8630
    @christhompson8630 Před 6 lety +12

    “Setting the safeties” is the correct term. The elevator will then have a measurement which is the “slide”. The slide is the distance (markings) on the rails that tell you how many inches it took to properly slow down and eventually stop the car. There are requirements for how much slide you can have depending on the “rated speed” of that elevator. More commonly used now days along with other safety devices is the “Hollister-Whitney rope griper”. At anytime the safety circuit for an elevator equipped with a rope griped is broken the rope gripper will clamp all hoist ropes simultaneously. So for all the crazies out there that picture all cables breaking including governor rope there are other means associated with bringing a car to a complete safe stop. Yours truly, Elevator Mechanic Indianapolis

    • @anthonyboarman3833
      @anthonyboarman3833 Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah, I was thinking what if the governor rope broke also. I'm sure that happened on 9/11.

  • @inspire8963
    @inspire8963 Před 3 lety +4

    Nice information on how lifts stop, coming from an Otis lift engineer.

  • @natalie_boyd
    @natalie_boyd Před 2 lety

    I love all your lifts because I am addicted to lifts

  • @darknessnightmare9707
    @darknessnightmare9707 Před 3 lety +1

    si no fuera por la mala administración de kone México sería un excelente lugar para trabajar, muy buena la tecnología de estos equipos

  • @rieon-plumbingfan
    @rieon-plumbingfan Před 5 lety +5

    Very informative!

  • @jimmyzhang4854
    @jimmyzhang4854 Před 5 lety +3

    which software is it used to design the whole elevator? thanks

    • @lebrayor
      @lebrayor Před 3 lety

      Blender or 3D Max or Cinema 4D

  • @mhxxd4
    @mhxxd4 Před 9 měsíci +2

    We need a purely mechanical version of this, without the digitally controlled servo

    • @mrfrenzy.
      @mrfrenzy. Před 2 měsíci

      It is a mechanical servo, the springs keep a safe decelleration so you don't break your neck. Obviously tested thousands of time in the lab and every five years in each installed elevator.

  • @juancarlosabad3298
    @juancarlosabad3298 Před 3 lety +4

    .that is basically 150+y old technology ..modern elevators should use safe mechatronic speed governors (e.g. Wittur EOS) to trigger not only on overspeed but also on over acceleration, that is much safer and obviously quicker....it may save lives if main brake fails with open doors while passenger exit or enter the car ....acting solely on over-speed in that case would be fatal in most cases....

  • @shubhamkumargupta3761
    @shubhamkumargupta3761 Před 4 lety +1

    I want to know what type of safety equipment used to protect from free fall of material lift in industry

    • @togatherwe2892
      @togatherwe2892 Před 4 lety +1

      Over speed governor

    • @juancarlosabad3298
      @juancarlosabad3298 Před 3 lety

      watch the video!

    • @juancarlosabad3298
      @juancarlosabad3298 Před 3 lety

      @@togatherwe2892 wrong!...at least very incomplete answer...watch the video!....the speed governor trigger the safety gears under (and/or over) the car frame....

  • @Gonso96
    @Gonso96 Před 5 lety +8

    1:04 Elevtaor

  • @adamsyndoman5032
    @adamsyndoman5032 Před 6 lety +20

    Why did you steal the music from Audiojungle?

  • @cebodaniels9810
    @cebodaniels9810 Před 3 lety +3

    I got stuck in a elivator when I was 9 years old

  • @vivienxvhlw864
    @vivienxvhlw864 Před 2 lety

    Got ur lifts @ school

  • @manralkuber5453
    @manralkuber5453 Před 5 lety

    Nice video

  • @saturner420
    @saturner420 Před rokem +1

    Well i’m still afraid of these things…happily use them but still scared

  • @YouTube-Video-Rank-Expert.
    @YouTube-Video-Rank-Expert. Před 5 měsíci

    NICE.

  • @b03tz
    @b03tz Před rokem

    1:12 elevtaor?

  • @rajarathinamboopalan5245
    @rajarathinamboopalan5245 Před 6 lety +1

    Why not using for safety to upwards

    • @xavier6130
      @xavier6130 Před 5 lety +1

      Rajarathinam Boopalan They are using it in all directions.

    • @TheDragonFire123
      @TheDragonFire123 Před 5 lety +1

      @@xavier6130 We didn't have them earlier; some of Kone's governors did not protect the upwards direction.

    • @carultch
      @carultch Před rokem +1

      Because the maximum downward acceleration is a lot greater, in the event that the cables break. For a counterweight that is 25% heavier than the empty elevator cab, the maximum upward acceleration in the event that the motor fails would be 1.1 m/s^2. The maximum downward acceleration would occur when the cable breaks, and be 9.8 m/s^2.
      A fall after a broken cable is a lot more of a concern than a fall after a failed motor. The counterweight is specified to be as heavy as the elevator cab when carrying the average payload, so a failed motor could cause it to fall either way, but it will be a much more gentle fall than if the cable breaks.

  • @cmb8737
    @cmb8737 Před 4 lety +1

    А что за музыка

  • @candykanefpv98
    @candykanefpv98 Před 3 lety

    ok so IF it failed the maxiumum speed it would reach would be 13m/s?

    • @juancarlosabad3298
      @juancarlosabad3298 Před 3 lety

      your question does not make any sense....watch the video!....every elevator has a rated speed, lets call it VKN which maybe anything between 0.3m/s to 20+m/s....the speed governor would trigger at aprox. 1.2*VKN , engaging the safety gears.....so, if VKN=1m/s the threshold will be ~1.2m/s....if your elevator is a VKN=10m/s one that threshold is 12m./s.....this is all 150+y old technology ...modern elevators use or should use safe mechatronic speed governors to trigger not only on overspeed but also on over acceleration, that is much safer and obviously quicker....it may safe lives if main brake fails with open doors while passenger exit or enter the car ....acting solely on over-speed in that case would be fatal in most cases....

  • @katiedonovanAlt
    @katiedonovanAlt Před 3 lety +3

    What...nothing about the pit buffers and the 5-year test? C' mon!

  • @rowan1261
    @rowan1261 Před 6 lety +13

    The lift doesn't freefall down, it freefalls up!!!!
    Because the counterweight is heavier than the lift car.

    • @miq4326
      @miq4326 Před 6 lety +11

      but if the cables snap then elevator is not connected to the counterweight anymore

    • @jaycee2414
      @jaycee2414 Před 6 lety +9

      Just one cable can support the elevator but there are usually 5-6 cables that are used (mainly for traction purposes). But suppose all 5 cables snapped--the elevator is still connected to the governor, a mechanical device, via a separate cable; and this will engage (mechanically) the safeties or brakes.

    • @psirvent8
      @psirvent8 Před 6 lety +3

      And if all cables snap simultaneously (including the governor cable) then the elevator falls down at high speed !
      Only early safety gears (without o/s governor) could prevent this.

    • @martinytcz1762
      @martinytcz1762 Před 6 lety

      And how would that happen again?

    • @soldtobediers
      @soldtobediers Před 5 lety +1

      Rowan & MartinYTCZ
      Case in point. Just finished the cabbing up the car of a basement configuiration hoisting machine. Over the weekend the sprinkler system saturated the brake & of course the counterweights sucked the cab up into the hoisting beam ruining the cab & distorting the sheave's alignment as well. Yep cabs can fall up easier than down. Dover Elevator Mechanic's Helper 1981

  • @officermazerblx
    @officermazerblx Před 5 měsíci +2

    "the answer is, certainly not" so what about the 900~ elevators that fall every year?

    • @claytonno2571
      @claytonno2571 Před 4 měsíci +1

      I mean top comment answer it well 5 years ago. but basically a lack of being maintained properly by the building owners

  • @DJWolves97
    @DJWolves97 Před 2 lety +2

    AUDIOJUNGLE

  • @-Shadow__Rider-
    @-Shadow__Rider- Před 7 měsíci

    20%

  • @elevator-best
    @elevator-best Před 4 lety

    جميل

  • @subodhasandamali4820
    @subodhasandamali4820 Před 2 lety

    Good too nicee vidiypoo next vekkk aploddd you newee vidiyodss

  • @rosellafloraldesigns3297

    ROSOLLA

  • @annakowalkowski4046
    @annakowalkowski4046 Před 3 lety

    Neat . 🍒

  • @lettybaylon9375
    @lettybaylon9375 Před 4 lety

    aaaa