Hummer versus Soviet UAZ - which is better off-road?
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The Soviet UAZ reminds me so much of the original International Scout 800 from the 1960's. Simple, a bit underpowered but unstoppable off road.
Because, as usual with the Russians, half of it was stolen and spied on. Now uaz has almost not changed, it's the same shit as before :)
One of Stephen King's favorite cars in his books, the Scout 800
Agreed bruh
Does too. I worked for IH
They are simple to fix too. Which is big plus when overlanding in remote corners of the planet. Ensure the mechanical componets serviced and checked. Keep some essential spares. No much creature comforts but does its primary function well.
We already know UAZ is great off-roader, many hours driving around with it in PUBG :)
Just know about that, the car in pubg is UAZ 😅. Thanks for the info
also in operation flashpoint... armed assault arma... 😅
Here's an idea for a video. Take two Lada engines and merge them together so that they are 180* apart and sharing a single crankshaft to create an eight cylinder boxer engine.
They've done an inline double and inline triple engine in the past
If you used two cranks that are gear driven it would do some weird stuff because one would be counter rotating.
The main journals wouldn't accept two rods, you'd have machine skinny rods from like a subaru or something or grind Lada rods to half their original thickness, which is possible actually. Then you'd have to totally reinvent the oiling system...and put fuel injection on the motor...and adapt the monstrosity to a transmission...and cut apart a car for the thing to fit...
@@nicholasagnew2792 In past projects they've turned two 4 cylinder engines into a 6 cylinder, converted a gas engine to diesel, and put a truck engine in small car. So they certainly have the skill and ingenuity to pull this off.
@@nicholasagnew2792You could do it the same way Millyard made his Kawasaki V12 out of 2 inline 6's
"The better the offroader, the farther you'll go looking for a tractor" LOL!!
Hi fellas,
American here, i knew the Uaz would kill that h2. Great video, thanks!
lol you're so right. I thought the same thing. Only real hummer is an H1.
I did as well, and I don't know much about the UAZ. Cheers from Missouri.
I wouldn't say it killed it.. H2 actually did alot better than i was expecting being it weighs almost twice as much..
The UAZ is a dedicated military vehicle, while the H2 Hummer was designed to look like a military vehicle but was intended for shopping and taking kids to school.
@@PapiDoesIt They need to try the same with an proper military Hummer
H2 is a luxury cruiser for the city. Made for those who want to "show off" their abundance of wealth. The H1 would have been the more equivalent comparison canditate.
This is true. The H2 is simply a different body on a full-size SUV frame. No one really takes them offroad and expects much.
Agreed.
That is a h3 it is a 2500 chev chasy
A h2 is a h1 with all the good stuff on it
I was impressed how well the Caddy did. Nice video.
It's not surprising to me that the UAZ turned out to be better. I also want to give it extra kudos for not tearing up the grass anywhere near as much as the Hummer did. The H2 did much better than I had expected, though. Well done.
I am from England. I would daily drive the UAZ if I had the chance, cool cars!
I'm from Canada and I couldn't agree more.
I am from Hungary, and i drive UAZ daily. No, you do not want that! 😅
@@motorkr2857😂😂😂
@@motorkr2857 In the UK we have lots of "green lanes" which are basically offroad trails. Something like a UAZ would be amazing fun for that, and great for round the local area. Not planning any highway trips in it hahahaha
No you wouldn't. Drinks gas like a 7.2l V8 and drivers like a garbage truck.
I'm in auto collision and restoration 30+years in America. I'm a GM guy. The H2 and Caddy is a rebodied GMC Yukon/ Chevy Tahoe. Having said that, my freedom dollars are on the UAZ. The Caddy likely has a Positraction diff in the rear, possibly two Torsen style diffs, better traction control that utilises the ABS to aid traction, and better suspension components.
Caddy? Only Caddy i know is VW
Caddilac!
The h2 has a locking rear differential.
You can get the UAZ with Torsen diff locks on front and rear axle, and you will need it.
@@K2teknik. how does a torsen really help for exsmple if one Wheel is in the air? Not a Fan of torsen for Axles. LSD always works
19:44 the way the hummer tossed him around, I laughed for 20 mins straight. Full send! I love it
I would take the UAZ any day. Simple, ruggered engineering, great show guys!!
The UAZ looks an awful lot like a 62 International Scout mail truck that I owned as a teenager.
But works well and its simply.
Probably the design is from the era as these are made since 1971._
Because the Russians stole a lot and they couldn't invent much on their own.
Most soviet designs were bought on license and then tweaked a little.@@DjResROfficial
The biggest obstacle was the mosquitoes 🦟. The H2 has nothing in common with a Hummvee (H1). They were a mistake GM would like to forget. Huge, heavy & slow. Interior was full of Walmart grade plastic. I expect you'll be fabricating that thing soon. UAZ looked very similar to a International Scout. I'd rock that thing here in the states for sure.
Love the Channel. Thanks for Bringing Ultrawide format back !
There were only one "Real" model of Hummer, the first one! The rests are not really equivalent. Now I have personally never driven a H1, just the original Jeep and some other off-road vehicles. In the military I drove a lot of off road vehicles ranging from small four wheelers to six wheeled terrain capable trucks. Let's say even a Suzuki Samurai can do quite impressively if you know how to handle it. But that's a really low end off roader.
i had a samurai, and you are right. little 3cyl engine, but it was a tough little truck. 0-60 in an hour and a half. still though, it would handle some off road mud pretty good. now compared to a couple others i had, that were built for the fun, it didn't compare, still though, it wasn't bad.
Suzuki Samurai?? Don't make me laugh. It is easier to tip it over than an empty trash can.
@@andrasszabo7386 you never had one i see. i did, and yes, i built trucks to actually really off road. lockers in front and rear diffs. engines powerful enough that my license plate is RD RGE. yes, road rage. for my plate on my truck still. had it for 30 years now. and the shit i built earned it. but i tell you, those little things would surprise you if you ever did drive them off road. matter of fact, i gave my samuria to a friend who i went off roading with often to take to his hunting property in northern michigan to knock around with, drive to his various hunting spots. he was even surprised on what it would make it through.
@@andrasszabo7386 The idea that it would tip over was based on a very modified roll test Consumer Reports made, presumably because the combination of low cost, reliability and off road performance scared the hell out of Jeep, who offer basically none of the above in stock form (Unless you get the specific off road versions, which are so heavy they sink to the axles in the same ground a Suzuki will drive across all day like it's nothing).
It's pretty well documented now that Consumer Reports kept modifying their rollover swerve test on the Samurai, and after many attempts, still couldn't get the car to tip over, until they pretty much got a stunt driver, who hit the bend (Which had been considerably tightened from the standard test spec) at something like 80 mph (Which on its own is an achievement in a stock SJ/Samurai), and eventually it went over, though it's near certain every other off roader, SUV and quite a few cars of the same era would also have rolled in the same test.
Video footage of it that leaked later showed them cheering when it finally rolled, partly due to finally getting the result they wanted from the test after hours of trying. The false message they, as a supposedly trusted independent test body, put out unfairly tarnished Suzuki's reputation in the US and tanked their sales, but kept the money rolling in for their friends in the American car industry at the consumers' expense. In response Suzuki said screw this and pulled out of the US, and were appreciated for the great vehicles they made everywhere else in the world - and in the US by people who know the history of the brand in more detail.
@@garycarpenter2932 I have only tried to drive one once. I can't remember what year it was produced in, but me and my friends had a lot of fun. We also tipped it over on its side multiple times in the local forest. We got it for free as an unwanted, and almost destroyed junk, so we used the hell out of it, until it became literally scrap.
I bet the UAZ would be easier to repair.
I would like to see a Lada Niva in the mix. They were awesome.
You need to put mud tires instead of all season tires on them n they’ll be even better off road
To be honest they didn't have diff locks
I was looking for this comment before writing it by myself
Vlad, "that lake has some great Carp" Love it,
Unbelievable! UAZ is unbreakable, it's like it was made for doing exactly that, it's ground clearance and confidence that comes wen he's driving it
You guys really shouls try Jeep vs Uaz 469 because then it's a fair play.
Yeah, the hummer is a rebadged chevy tahoe.
A jeep really a jeep do people still drive those shit boxes
Maybe a 80s era jeep.
Imagine thinking a hummer is a jeep. Wahahahaha it’s a Chevy chassis
@@ronaldwarren1267 Bring whatever you own to Telluride, Colorado, and we will go over Black Bear pass. I will bring my JEEP, and a tow strap so I can drag you out.
This was like a DIY episode of the old Top Gear. An honest challenge with unexpected results and no script.
Yep. This is like Top Gear from 2010, but with mosquitoes, a Hummer and a Soviet era SUV. :) Now that Top Gear is no more, Garage 54 satiates my hunger for car shows.
This is like Mud Runner in real life! So cool!
The mosquitos at the end were rediculous !
*ridiculous
Nice. I have a 1973 Suzuki Jimny that'll go through just about anything. Very slowly @360cc but I've never been stranded.
Thanks as always, and regards.
Would love a uaz as a daily driver. Had a Lada niva many years ago and it was a real great car.
Same here about 30 yrs ago, it was only a 16l engine, but its one of the best 4x4`s i`ve had, and that includes fronteras,series landy`s, disco 1+2, currently on 2002 mitsubishi l200,
В конце этого года появится Нива Спорт с двигателем 120 сил и усиленной трансмиссией. Эта версия будет заезжать в вертикальные горы)) Ведь вес всего лишь 1300 кг.
big ups to all projects of this channell fills certain curiousity you did not know you had
The tires and weight is what matters
And wheel base, Hummer is way too wide.
@@dogwalker666 while the h1 had a good reason to be this wide the h2 is just unnecessarily wide, i dont understand
@@lada_niva_1.7i indeed, They are ok in a desert I suppose, But in streets or on roads no,
The wide tires on the Hummer don't bite into the mud.
No.
It's very fun to watch your off-road play. It looked pretty slippery out there.
From Canada we have the same kind of Terrine an Eastern Europe (Russia) This is the kind of vehicle we need instead of all the overprice garbage they keep feeding us they can’t go off routing right out of the box
Love the little uaz would love to have one here in the states, another awesome video keep it up guys.
21:9 :O YES! the perfect ratio for my monitor!
THANK YOU! 🌹
And I thought the mosquitoes were bad here in Florida lol.. Wouldn't of guessed they were that prevalent in Russia
But they are. And on top of that ticks are a pretty serious problem in and around Novosibirsk in particular.
@@Garage54ENG Well, good to know 😅 Ticks are pretty horrible here in the southeastern US also!
Bad here in Virginia as well getti
@@Garage54ENG I can relate to the tick issue! It'll take a few seconds just for your entire arm to be covered in sea ticks around here!
@@IIronyy ah man, unfortunately I've been bitten a few times - tick bites are the worst, holy sh t
I’m d have the big yellow shouty thing and day , run forever on basic maintenance and spares and when a big EMP / solar flair comes our way no electrics to fry 😂
American here and I've got to admit, the H2 did better than I thought it would but the UAZ stole the show. If i had my choice of ORV I'd choose the original Hummer (Humvee). Though the UAV would be useful in tight situations because of the smaller wheelbase.
Очень круто сняли. Я раньше предпочитал УАЗ. Теперь катаюсь на нивах . Шевролет Нива меня радует увеличил дорожный просвет и поставил резину 225×16×70. Больше ей ничего не надо . Думаю она легко взяла бы ту дорогу которую вы проехали. Желаю вам добра и здоровья.
We had this vehicle in the army, plains, mud, winter, -20 degrees Celsius, it went everywhere and didn't get stuck, it was ugly on outside, even uglier on inside, but it was able to cross kilometers across meadows and fields in the mud almost up to half a wheel. Simple, reliable, without any, any, not the slightest desire to flirt with, not luxury, but the most ordinary feeling in the vehicle. Hard, uncomfortable.But the first choice
We had a bunch of vehicles, (I think they were called puch,and that they were made by the Austrian STAYER)
They looked a lot like Mercedes G-classes, they also had Mercedes engines, on the road extremely comfortable, the cabin is a bit luxurious, although you can see the military purpose, but off-road zero. When I say zero, I mean zero, at least winter, mud, rain, snow. In the summer it might be different, but we were not interested in trying it. We had UAZ.
We were at war and we were not interested in experimenting. Another good vehicle was the Fiat Campanola.
It's a small vehicle with narrow tires that cut through the mud nicely, reliable, its only flaw, an open convertible, with a soft roof and tarpaulin that didn't reduce the cold much. But a good vehicle, reliable, capable.It looks very similar (certainly a faithful copy) of famouse American jeep from WW2, only a little smaller, I have that impression.
We also had Austrian Pinzgauers, a spacious vehicle that looks a lot like a Volkswagen van (t2 or t3, the one from 1982,3,4,5, with the engine in the back)Quality made, spacious, good heating, but mud and fields are not for him, maybe in summer.It goes, it works, but it's a lot of trouble in a more extreme nature,in winter,
and you have the feeling that you're taking a risk (some), and we shouldn't have allowed ourselves to do that.The vehicles that left a good impression were also the Russian ZILs (ZIL), they were almost 40 years old at the time, but they worked flawlessly, they started at -20 without major problems, (ours were all gasoline) and after that winter I was clear why weren't they already scrapped? Because you can simply count on them in such conditions. No beauty, no luxury, some feeling... hmmmm, what can you say,nothing ... but the sound of that powerful engine was like a sound, let's say a mixture a tank and a jet plane, your skin gets goosebumps when it goes uphill. Strong force,and you just feel that.The solid vehicle was a FAP (domestic vehicle,TRUCK , but with a Mercedes license, I think it was a 6*6, so it ran well, it just seems to me that it was a diesel and there were minor problems, sometimes, but again, it ran ,It didn't have the power of a ZIL, but it had a steering wheel that you turn with your little finger, inflating the tires from the cabin, etc., which at that time was, for us, like a Rolls Royce.
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Momentum. Clearance. Both important. Lockers would be nice.
Approach angle, breakover angle, departure angle and ground clearance,, plus tires. The Hummer is really lacking on ground clearance.
@@Colorado_Native Yeah, lacking there & breakover.
H2s are road cars. They're basically a Tahoe, which are only really made to drive offroads in fields and construction sites.
My buddy has a Tahoe he imported from the states and it's just as capable offroad as any other rig they're just heavy @@iunnox666
When I was in the Army, I spent a good amount of time as a driver for a humvee and gotten them hopelessly stuck before- especially the up-armored ones.
when it comes to wet muddy terrin its all down to the tires, locking diffs would be a game changer too
This is a perfect video explaining how NOT to drive off road in the mud. If you want to make it anywhere and get any kind of traction in thick mud you need to keep your wheel speed up that way the tires can fling the stuck mud out of the grooves so they can be clear to try to grab traction again on the next rotation. Spinning the tires slowly in the mud is a futile exercising pain, keep your wheel speed up to make any headway!
As long as you’re still moving. Don’t want to dig a hole
awesome video guys
Awesome show as always guys. Tires do make a big difference tho
Loved that first hill with the H2, that thing is awesome and shit.it needs a bootfull of throttle to get its big ass up things, good thing it has the power to support it ! That UAZ I've respected as much as my own YJ, and damn, in it current configuration... I don't think my Jeep could make it up, open diffs and all
Second hill, learning the throttle more lol, its heavy! you always gotta keep that in mind!
Third hill UAZ was sick, I was wanting that vehicle to be put in more of a challenge hill! Flying colors, the restart after it stopped at the top of the hill was world class lol. Glad the H2 made it, power is king in that truck lol.
Good stuff when you guys were just cruising around wheeling, seems like a great time. The big hole at the end was a fun time, exactly how i'd drive the hummer, the Lada, damn, just jumped off and had to cope lol
Good video, hope you are all doing well
impressive the h2 did so well considering its closer to that caddy than the uaz in terms of the use case it was designed for
To be honest imo driving offroad without any cross axle locker is fun . it really test your skill on offroad situation,heck I even drive in kinda same situation before in only 2wd due to broken front driveshaft.
I am intrigued by the UAZ. Over the past 25 yrs, SUVs have gotten silly in their luxurious expensiveness. I think there is a definite market for plain, no frills, utilitarian 4WDs like the UAZ.
Great video, I would have liked to have seen all vehicles on good mud tyres of the same type.👍
That was hilarious. Great job. I’d really like to try the UAZ.
Going up hill on mud, tires are a big component but weight is also a big component. Too much weight then the vehicle has to have more traction to grip or dig for more grip. It can also dig ruts which can stop it so best case is good tires and light weight. The H2 is a heavy boy in any event. I think it might even be heavier than the caddy but not sure on this.
Im very surprised the H2 and the UAZ did as well as they did on street tires.. Huge difference in weight between the 2 vehicles...
UAZ 3600 Lbs.. H2 6400 Lbs.. Need to test something in a closer weight class like a jeep...
Looked like an awesome day...👍👍
Glorious Soviet engineering 👌 😎
UAZ For the win! UAZ vs Old Land Rover maybe?
Joined different off road drivers in my life. All sorts of terain. What I learned, get a driver that knows what he is doing. Picked up some things, but I know I would get myself in problems unable to come out of sooner rather than later. Good fun though.
The Escalade and H2 are built on the same chassis, but Cadillac is obviously lighter. As a result, it digs into the ground just enough, while the Hummer just flattens everything. That being said, the tires do make a considerable difference.
Ha let's off road!! The ground is soft but not to wet!! Anyway what a laugh you guys had😂😂😂.
I wanna see a DIY 24H LM car. I know you guys are capable of some incredible clean work.
Those H2's have a GM/chevrolette Drive train , they're GM chasis/drivetrain with a H2 body on it.
Sending love from the United States love you guys so much!!!
Thanks :)
One CZcamsr posted a video of a 1970's 4X4 International Scout II pulling a H3 out of the snow! 🤣 The video is still up on CZcams!
The scout compares to the uaz a lot better..
uaz looks like an international scout- would be cool to see a comparison. H2s are pigs, kudos to you for having the stones to take it in the mud much less out the mall parking lot
You guys should do an off-road build on the Uaz. Lift kit, larger tires, and a couple lockers. Then, put it up against the same built Jeep.
The Hummer has Cooper Discovery a/t 3 I had those same tires years ago and they cut thru snow like a knife thru butter. Well USA snow 😂
I mean, that is an H2 after all. They were created to be regular everyday vehicles for town, but good enough to have some fun offroad too.
More videos like this testing different vehicles please
Two very different ways of overcoming similar challenges.
The UAZ, with its simple light utilitarian build, works with physics to achieve mobility off-road where as the H2 with it's emphasis on comfort and power, has to use computer programming and complicated engineering to fight physics and achieve off-road mobility.
Edit: The primary advantage for the UAZ is improved efficiency with ease of operation and maintenance. The advantage for the H2 is improved occupant comfort, reduced driver fatigue, and less manual intervention required.
Each has its merits.
my dad had the Uaz Hunter, a real off-road car.
I may be wrong, but aren't the Caddie and that version of the Hummer on the same platform?
Cool vid. It would be neat to see how these all stack up against a real hummer instead of that gm knockoff. That uaz is pretty sweet. Reminds me of the old land rovers
04:00 like the music ❤❤ the escalade was very good 😮 ( 360 p only 😢😢)
It's funny, the H2 is just a Suburban with a different body on it, and the Escalade is just a slightly modified Suburban. Anywhere the H2 can go, the Escalade should easily be able to go as well.
I am actually surprised the mall-crawler H2 did as well as it did, especially given the tires weren't great. I honestly expected it to get stuck a lot.
Genial video .Cuando un uaz hunter vs suzuki samurai? 😅
Essentially a tire battle,
Do more testing!
I would like to see old school hilux surf!
I drive 1987 4runner turbo (aka hilux surf)
If you want to go off-road remember to take your bug spray 😂🤣👍💚💛❤️
Hey love your work but try an 80 series toyota landcruiser next time, definitely make a good comparison but that’s if you have one plus turbo diesel 80 series 1hdt engine. Cheers 🍻
Holy crap, so many overseas viewers, it's unbelievable 😮
I am surprised the H2 did as well as it did. I didnt think it would get past those trails. Bottoming out, ok, it did, no surprise, but considering how heavy it is, the tires, the wheelbase, it shows that at least, back in the day, (cant believe early 2000s are back in the day) vehicles were designed with a purpose.
Nowadays, its all crossover shecars.
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That Soviet UAZ is quite the vehicle, basic but it works. Have a old 99 Jeep Wrangler with basically 31 x 10.5s not that aggressive of tread, but it still works well when SHTF
Depends if you want some comfort with your mud and will sacrifice some ability. But an offroader that pops out of gear may negate a lot of performance.
This is great content!
Cool video again
I mthe coertial part Vlad should be heard in the backround after all hes the hart of garage!
Fun stuff!
That mud is the worst, too soft/wet for grip, but still too sticky/dry to clean itself from the tires. Agricultural tractor type tire with high and spaced out cams is whats needed for max self-cleansing up that hill.
No sabía que necesitaba una dosis de off-road, lo disfruté como si estuviera alli...me sorprende que la Cadillac del principio subiera mejor la pendiente que la Hammer...el UAZ lo hizo muy muy bien!!
i'd love a UAZ.. gotta settle for just driving one in snowrunner i guess 😥
Today Garage54 plays Spin Tyres/Mudrunner with Ultimate Sim Set up
That UAZ is so COOL 😍
The Lada Riva is another great 4x4...
Jesus those mosquitos were relentless.
Min. 18:12 I love the confident face of the co-pilot.
Yeah, funny how when you disengaged traction control on the Hummer and the got the wheels spinning it immediately jumped right up the hill
I admire the simplicity of the Soviet cars.
That's what you get for adding 400 tons extra to an off-road vehicle 😂
More of a road only version of a farm capable vehicle.
The better off roader?
The short answer, the one that you spended the most aftermarket parts on it
Sort of, the H1 is a beast off road, factory. Same with the Ford raptor, that thing is a monster off road.
The H2/H3? They're city vehicles. Truck frames, they're lower comparatively speaking, etc.
the ground pressure can help the hummer but can also be a disadvantage depending on the ground. but yea the uaz is a way better offroader compared to the hummer , especially with its solid axles in the rear and in the front. but i like both. what id like to see is the uaz against a suzuki samurai sj410 or 413, but in ruffer terrain.
It will be interesting to compare UAZ with the Land Rover series. Yeah, UAZ looks like the International Scout, but the design of Lada Niva is so close to Ford Bronco. One of our Bulgarian car CZcams channels explains how the Jeep Wrangler is similar to UAZ.
In that thin greasy mud, it's all about the tires. The only thing worse than wide tires on that stuff is wide low profile tires.
we are doing a 4l80e transmission swap and 4wd low high range transfer case swap geting rid of the 4l65e transmission and Awd transfer case i hate that it has no low range but its a Chevy so mods are easy as the rest of hummer is a 3/4 ton chevy truck so it need that better transmission and select able transfer case