Security Guards LOSE IT After FAILING To Deescalate!

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    Tex. Occ. Code § 1702.232- bit.ly/3ICDBEw
    Tex. Occ. Code § 1702.165- bit.ly/3TdbPnh
    37 Tex. Admin. Code § 35.82- bit.ly/3IzFPF0
    37 Tex. Admin. Code § 35.5- bit.ly/3wQlMzq
    37 Tex. Admin. Code § 35.10- bit.ly/4c8ijfH
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    Michigan v. Summers- bit.ly/4acewfL
    Hearsay- bit.ly/3wHcLsf
    Navarette v. California- bit.ly/2Nzuo6W
    Adams v. Williams- bit.ly/3itijxi
    State v. Ford- bit.ly/43tzvZn
    Austin PD General Orders- bit.ly/3wRh0Sj

Komentáře • 2K

  • @thomasnunya9561
    @thomasnunya9561 Před měsícem +386

    His biggest mistake was confronting the security guards, before reporting the assault to the police. Sometimes all that matters is who called the cops first.

    • @tgatt5759
      @tgatt5759 Před měsícem +11

      💯
      He wouldn't have gotten the trespass either and the security would have been liable

    • @paulablack1863
      @paulablack1863 Před 29 dny +5

      He went about EVERYTHING wrong that day... lolololololol

    • @leeclemens879
      @leeclemens879 Před 28 dny +3

      but that's what a rational person would do. he clearly wanted confrontation with everyone.

    • @williamwatson8480
      @williamwatson8480 Před 27 dny +9

      @@leeclemens879 If you've ever been unjustifiably prepper sprayed (assaulted), not to mention damage to your personal property in the process, you would likely understand that the ability to be rational is severely diminished. I sincerely doubt you would be whistling Zip a Dee Doo Dah if this had happened to you.

    • @lillones
      @lillones Před 20 dny +2

      So it was his mistake someone filed a false police report against him?
      Sounds like it was someone else's mistake for committing a crime while trying to cover up another crime

  • @natemarx4999
    @natemarx4999 Před měsícem +1019

    These security guards look exactly how you would expect them to look.

    • @RobertHallKoC3
      @RobertHallKoC3 Před měsícem

      you mean, fat, old, and unable to chase anyone?

    • @datorres67
      @datorres67 Před měsícem +16

      The problem with authority without accountability.

    • @JustMe-fo4ev
      @JustMe-fo4ev Před měsícem +8

      @@datorres67 I don't think that's what the original comment is saying lol

    • @AdakStillStands
      @AdakStillStands Před měsícem +17

      Yup. Retired, out-of-shape ex-cop with a lack of current understanding of the law.

    • @usagi32211
      @usagi32211 Před měsícem +7

      We had a security guard at my old job that had to be about 400 pounds. A coworker was robbed at gunpoint in the parking lot early one morning, and not only did it take him several minutes to get outside to help her, but he called his security company instead of 911 because he didn't know how to handle the situation. Whenever I see videos of officers like this one who couldn't control any situation without getting out of breath, I always remember that incident.

  • @midgesmoot1739
    @midgesmoot1739 Před měsícem +305

    Whether he was in the right or not, this guy didn’t do himself any favors by flipping out.

    • @architeuthis3476
      @architeuthis3476 Před měsícem +11

      Yeah, I think B- was a bit generous.
      I would have given him a D+, the cops a D-, and the security guards an F.

    • @8joeyt
      @8joeyt Před měsícem +23

      Have you ever been pepper sprayed???? Flipping out is pretty standard after that
      If you don’t know shit, shouldn’t say shit

    • @Youngbuck3888
      @Youngbuck3888 Před měsícem +11

      He got assaulted, wouldn't you be pissed? Or would you sit in a corner and be quiet?

    • @TheBagOfHolding
      @TheBagOfHolding Před měsícem

      Really. A jury is made of people and they will not like him at all.

    • @Bosse_C
      @Bosse_C Před měsícem +5

      @@Youngbuck3888i would call the police, from my corner

  • @ctaber2011
    @ctaber2011 Před měsícem +219

    I work for PSC James Garfield was fired, so was the other officer on duty for lying to his superior.

    • @1SCme
      @1SCme Před měsícem +19

      James acted like a cross between former LEO - wannabe cop - nothing guy (laughably) trying to convert a mall cop badge into respect and a license to bully/assault (not gonna happen). He should have tried to file changes and filed a suit against the mall/James.
      The other guard mimicked the actions a LEO takes when he throws up the blue wall to protect another LEO - he looked like he knew the other guard went over the line, but is going to protect him anyway. He should have lost his job just for being stupid enough to do this.

    • @icecold9511
      @icecold9511 Před měsícem +13

      I would strongly suggest publically discussing this stuff on the internet can end your job.

    • @1SCme
      @1SCme Před měsícem +9

      @@icecold9511 Doubtful.

    • @repentandfollowjesuschrist6170
      @repentandfollowjesuschrist6170 Před měsícem +4

      Yeah and working at another lame security company, psc sucks

    • @ZyferWarriorPrime
      @ZyferWarriorPrime Před měsícem +8

      ​@@icecold9511Nah, anyone can make this claim on the internet. This person doesn't work for the company.

  • @TRC296
    @TRC296 Před měsícem +789

    Having the beginning of the encounter would’ve made a drastic difference.

    • @johnjames7289
      @johnjames7289 Před měsícem +14

      It's on the stores camera so he'll be good

    • @robertstone9988
      @robertstone9988 Před měsícem +39

      ​@@johnjames7289 if he's being honest. None of us really know if he really got sprayed or if so why or how. I have seen a person spray a person and get every one in the room including them selfs.

    • @seeya205
      @seeya205 Před měsícem +24

      There are always three sides to a story.

    • @stargazer6130
      @stargazer6130 Před měsícem

      *themselves ​@@robertstone9988

    • @tythedetailer3650
      @tythedetailer3650 Před měsícem

      It's a good thing that we know how to use common sense

  • @thenicker5110
    @thenicker5110 Před měsícem +896

    Dude should've never confronted the idiot security guards and instead called the police to report the assault.

    • @sprinkz6187
      @sprinkz6187 Před měsícem

      Never call the police when you have a problem, because when they turn up you'll have two problems

    • @kiddalingur
      @kiddalingur Před měsícem +82

      Also he should not have started by screaming at the cop Give me your name and badge number right of the bat, he could have been polite to them and probably would not have been put in cuffs

    • @992turbos
      @992turbos Před měsícem +41

      @@kiddalingur yeah taking a few deep breaths would have changed his entire universe

    • @davefimple8303
      @davefimple8303 Před měsícem +29

      Screaming at the police as soon as the car door opened is the wrong way to start off. He thinks he’s above the law just like the stupid security guards do.

    • @keithomilak3693
      @keithomilak3693 Před měsícem +11

      Yeah, providing an account of the situation before the cops got there likely would've set a better tone for the encounter. I can agree with the cops grade, but I think 'auditor' should've had a matching grade for his demeanor, incorrect citing of detention v arrest, when a detention is justified, and failure to know his state's LEO identification policy

  • @dylanrieck6671
    @dylanrieck6671 Před měsícem +52

    I appreciate how this channel seemingly objectively will call out both auditors and LEOs for misunderstanding/violating the law. thanks!

    • @Ninja_Gaijin
      @Ninja_Gaijin Před 11 dny +2

      however this guy wasn't an auditor, hence why he got more things wrong than you'd hope an auditor would. Literally just a photography / journalism guy, not an auditor 'doing journalism', although I realise this would be hard to realise. I only figured it out because ATA mentioned he is not an auditor, before then I was unsure if the victim's statement was true when he said that he was studying fine arts (presumably photography). I thought this might have been the usual 'auditor journalism' response but he might just be using journalism as an easier term to use in regards to his photography than fine art. Maybe his course falls under the 'fine art photography' name but he is in fact doing it for an in-roads into journalist photography.

  • @SiriusMined
    @SiriusMined Před měsícem +3

    Once they took his weapon away, their reason for holding him in cuffs *that they stated* was no longer valid...

    • @BenjaminRegen
      @BenjaminRegen Před dnem

      Loud, emotional, volatile. Yes, but also no.

  • @travr6
    @travr6 Před měsícem +684

    He might be correct but he's horrible and annoying.

    • @frankrosemeck9898
      @frankrosemeck9898 Před měsícem +114

      He's not even correct in at least half of his statements. Annoying is an understatement.

    • @lwo7736
      @lwo7736 Před měsícem

      Yep, you can be within your rights, and also be an unlikeable idiot

    • @travr6
      @travr6 Před měsícem +24

      @@frankrosemeck9898 I meant correct in that he shouldn't have been approached or sprayed.

    • @agentrex_adventures
      @agentrex_adventures Před měsícem +9

      They usually are.

    • @travr6
      @travr6 Před měsícem +1

      @agentrex_adventures Generally, the police start it, so i understand returning in kind.

  • @Spoteddy
    @Spoteddy Před měsícem +390

    "private security" "Youre a public servant" Does he not know the difference between private and public?

    • @joaquinbaca1880
      @joaquinbaca1880 Před měsícem +25

      In tex they are public servants

    • @paulstejskal
      @paulstejskal Před měsícem +16

      @@joaquinbaca1880eh?? How does that work? Security guards aren’t employed by a government but a private employ.

    • @KazeShikamaru
      @KazeShikamaru Před měsícem

      That's different. ​@@paulstejskal

    • @paulstejskal
      @paulstejskal Před měsícem

      Nevermind I didn’t watch the whole video yet

    • @rnash-shannon9304
      @rnash-shannon9304 Před měsícem +9

      @@joaquinbaca1880 How?
      Just because they have a state issued license, does not mean they work for the state. The company name is in the video.

  • @jeeseajoneson4727
    @jeeseajoneson4727 Před měsícem +17

    I worked in security for 2.5 year in oklahoma. Company never gave me or my 4 coworkers any formal training, glad i was never dumb enough to assault anyone, and lucky enough to never needed contact with leo's while working since i had no guard card

    • @Barbarian5150
      @Barbarian5150 Před měsícem

      In Texas that's a class a misdemeanor and a $4000 fine.

    • @BenjaminRegen
      @BenjaminRegen Před dnem

      ​@@Barbarian5150 just like your mom. (Jk)

  • @notoverlyacerbic9574
    @notoverlyacerbic9574 Před měsícem +46

    How you treat people matters. You can stand up for your rights and be nice at the same time.
    And not for nothing.
    The more anger involved,the more likely it is to devolve into a competition,with nobody willing to shift their stance because they don't want to lose..
    It is the difference between "name and badge number!" and "hey man,can i get your name and badge number?"
    It's the same question,except one is oozing with contempt.
    Again,it is about getting the change we all want.
    The government is a bureaucratic,unyielding,emotionless,detached nightmare but it is comprised of people.
    And people can sometimes be reasoned with but if they hate you they are more likely to continue down an illogical path because we are an emotional species..

    • @ericenfield2193
      @ericenfield2193 Před měsícem +2

      I agree - generally you get what you give.

    • @valentinius62
      @valentinius62 Před měsícem

      I've seen too many cops and gov't functionaries being asked nicely with sugar on top and blatantly refusing to do identify themselves anyway to believe all that. They really do need to be cussed at.
      They also accuse Citizens of threatening them for mere criticism, or holding a camera (always "in my face") and try to get them shut down or locked up.
      Eff 'em.

    • @The1before
      @The1before Před 12 dny

      Sounds pussC to me

  • @JulieL96
    @JulieL96 Před měsícem +344

    B- for combative, aggressive demeanor and not knowing any legalities? He handled everything wrong.

    • @The_GrumpyGills
      @The_GrumpyGills Před měsícem +72

      Yeah this is one of the worst auditors I have ever seen. Hurts the credibility of the channel to grade him higher than a D imo

    • @corgi42069
      @corgi42069 Před měsícem +46

      I would give him an F. He didn't do a single thing right.

    • @RageMojo
      @RageMojo Před měsícem

      What the fck does demeanor have to do with anything? We dont owe pigs love and flowers.

    • @KrowShow.
      @KrowShow. Před měsícem +57

      Audit the Audit does a good job on his channel of finding/explaining the laws, but he has a clear bias against law enforcement in his videos, while favoring frauditors.

    • @TheKyfe
      @TheKyfe Před měsícem +10

      I believe he got the B- because he's not an auditor, just some random guy. He states it at the end of his grade.

  • @1milliondogs
    @1milliondogs Před měsícem +261

    Generally, as a rule, I've learned throughout my life that any company or organisation with the word 'professional' in the name, is compensating for something.

    • @andrewogden1480
      @andrewogden1480 Před měsícem +2

      Professional Engineers (PE) everywhere would disagree

    • @1milliondogs
      @1milliondogs Před měsícem +6

      ​@@andrewogden1480 As a professional engineer, I disagree with your disagreement. 😂😂

    • @jimdouglas4387
      @jimdouglas4387 Před měsícem +3

      I agree and any company with integrity in its name is a joke

    • @J-Anon-
      @J-Anon- Před měsícem

      @@1milliondogs I know what PE means, but if someone was introduced as "Engineering Professional" I'd assume that's a technician.

    • @ericerto8250
      @ericerto8250 Před měsícem +1

      That's very true in most cases. Like when you see a wrench at Walmart it says professional on it 😂

  • @simplysaying7235
    @simplysaying7235 Před měsícem +8

    What about the security guards false informing? Stating he threatened to stab people? Cops should have given those clowns a TON of grief !!!

    • @edogriff
      @edogriff Před měsícem

      Is there a video before this that none of us have seen or are you assuming?

  • @brentfu1119
    @brentfu1119 Před měsícem +214

    There's something unsettling about this guy.

    • @kathryncumberland
      @kathryncumberland Před měsícem +34

      Yeah, he is *_super_* annoying!!!

    • @JakeStrange66
      @JakeStrange66 Před měsícem +27

      He sounds like he's watched way too many of those "first amendment" fr-auditor videos & believed everything the "frauditors" said, because was totally wrong about...well, everything i think, & did the "I'm a jernalist" thing they always do. 😂😂😂😂

    • @cdahmke11
      @cdahmke11 Před měsícem +16

      He's a karen

    • @troy_opal2054
      @troy_opal2054 Před měsícem +11

      ⁠​⁠​⁠@@JakeStrange66bro what do you mean by „those ”first amendment” fr-auditors”. While the man is indeed annoying, it has nothing to do with auditors making sure „first amendment” (apparently it’s such a foreign concept to you used quotation marks - I feel sorry for you). Aforementioned man clearly doesn’t understand his rights, that’s the issue. This channel is literally dedicated to auditors, maybe go troll another YT comment section

    • @JakeStrange66
      @JakeStrange66 Před měsícem +8

      @@troy_opal2054 he doesn't understand his rights. Exactly. Just like the "first amendment" frauditors.

  • @JustJoe864
    @JustJoe864 Před měsícem +264

    The cops definitely detained this man far too long, but him being super emotional doesn’t help things. He needs to pick and choose his battles and save the war for the courtroom.

    • @Shishiku91
      @Shishiku91 Před měsícem

      how many times in your life been pepper sprayed in the face by Paul Bart and then had to put up with low iq jerry from the local PD
      America is #1 incarcerated for a reason...ppl try to pick and choose in a courtroom instead of spilling someones head all over a sidewalk and calling it a day.

    • @susanh1447
      @susanh1447 Před měsícem

      I was wondering, what was he doing out there in the first place?

    • @coldkill207
      @coldkill207 Před měsícem +15

      I mean getting assaulted with pepper spray and then the cops showing up ready to draw on you then threaten to take you to the ground and detain you for a truly unreasonable amount of time after they're aware of all facts just because they can is a bit upsetting and I don't blame him for his attitude. Could he have acted better? sure, but literally having the cops gang up on you after you got assaulted is ridiculous.

    • @CheddahSlammer
      @CheddahSlammer Před měsícem +13

      @@coldkill207 Its because security guards called it in that they were in danger with his weapons so close in his bag. Police showed up thinking it was a worse situation then it actually was.

    • @coldkill207
      @coldkill207 Před měsícem +11

      @@CheddahSlammer and like I said, kept him detained after they had all the facts... it goes from reasonable to unreasonable real quick. My comment is more on the fact that I understand why he is upset and it's hard to control your emotions when you got assaulted and held against your will until a supervisor shows up. As for weapons, as far as I can tell he never reached, brandished or threatened anyone with them so why does it matter? They only added that information to escalate the call.

  • @PraetorExtremo
    @PraetorExtremo Před měsícem +108

    Oh man. It’s an early morning and “James James” was enough to get me good 😂

    • @azalea_k
      @azalea_k Před měsícem +5

      seemed legit 🤔

    • @JustMe-fo4ev
      @JustMe-fo4ev Před měsícem +10

      lol James Squared

    • @Knight_Astolfo
      @Knight_Astolfo Před měsícem +4

      tbf I knew a James Jameson growing up. Also, guess what his dad's name was?

    • @BlackFaithProduction
      @BlackFaithProduction Před měsícem +2

      “You back up!” sent me away lol. 1:22

    • @azalea_k
      @azalea_k Před měsícem +2

      @@Knight_Astolfo Yeah, Mastermind quiz show in the UK used to be hosted by Magnus Magnusson. You expect that from nordic names though.

  • @ThatguyPurps
    @ThatguyPurps Před měsícem +2

    Being legally arrested or being arrested are different in their legal standing, but the physical experience is much the same. If an officer has stopped you and you're not free to leave, you've been detained, once they handcuff you, you are restrained and arrested. Why can't the court see that?

  • @ZomegJ
    @ZomegJ Před měsícem +25

    Him and the security guards all 3 of them were idiots 😂😂

  • @arh9068
    @arh9068 Před měsícem +57

    If those security guards called the police & claimed the cameraman tried to stab them, then that is a false claim and is illegal.

    • @seeya205
      @seeya205 Před měsícem +6

      The call is on video. They said that he has weapons like the scissors and said he kept following them. This was true!

    • @glintinggold
      @glintinggold Před měsícem +4

      @@seeya205 ...and irrelevant

    • @dannyfergusson3243
      @dannyfergusson3243 Před měsícem +3

      ​@@glintinggoldhow is that irrelevant. If he actually has scissors he is a present potential danger

    • @mikebaker6288
      @mikebaker6288 Před měsícem

      @@dannyfergusson3243 Scissors are not inherently dangerous most of the time... unless you 'run with them'... The guy in this video is a straight-up KAREN. Security guards seem like buffoons, too. But the guy is obviously his own worst, uninformed enemy. And the way he jumped in the first cop's face demanding 'NAME AND BADGE NUMBER!' made him look really stupid. Every time his opened his yap, he stuck his foot in. No sympathy from me. He's neither a 'journalist' nor an 'auditor'. He's just an loud-mouthed imbecile.

    • @wolfmordhau4267
      @wolfmordhau4267 Před měsícem +6

      ​@@dannyfergusson3243 People carry scissors and knives for practical applications. It also never seemed like he made a move or gesture that would indicate he would use them otherwise. The two clowns just wanted to make the call "spicier" for optics. They knew they were in the wrong and didn't care if they put the cameraman's life in danger. Their $12/hr worth more than someone's life. Disgusting.

  • @Brent_Mosey
    @Brent_Mosey Před měsícem +125

    His behavior makes it really difficult for me have sympathy for him.

    • @mynightmare3798
      @mynightmare3798 Před měsícem +14

      True, but It's a good thing your rights aren't dependent on someone else's sympathy for you.

    • @The_GrumpyGills
      @The_GrumpyGills Před měsícem +18

      @@mynightmare3798 he made demands that were inconsistent with our civil rights numerous times.

    • @NitroDubzzz
      @NitroDubzzz Před měsícem +2

      ​@The_GrumpyGillhe he forgot to print out his sovereign citizen bingo sheet to pull out at the slightest confrontation

    • @captainforrix956
      @captainforrix956 Před měsícem +2

      It's easy to defend your rights and not escalate the problems

    • @Brent_Mosey
      @Brent_Mosey Před měsícem

      @@NitroDubzzz Somebody is familiar with Chile Decastro. :) Are you a Gunnar fan too? :)

  • @Tomhudnall2003
    @Tomhudnall2003 Před měsícem +33

    I wonder if the suspect is watching this yelling at the screen.

  • @user-om6xz5uq7l
    @user-om6xz5uq7l Před 27 dny +3

    LoL....its funny how the short stubby guard is holding the tear gas canister. 😂😂

    • @Ninja_Gaijin
      @Ninja_Gaijin Před 11 dny

      I think that was more pepper spray at the ready. he was going to spray him again potentially.

  • @markthervguy
    @markthervguy Před měsícem +30

    Remaining calm and professional demeanor will always serves you best. Be deliberate but be polite.

    • @SpencerfromEarth
      @SpencerfromEarth Před měsícem +4

      Good luck being calm and polite after being pepper sprayed

    • @seeya205
      @seeya205 Před měsícem +2

      @@SpencerfromEarth He probably was aggressive and that's why he got pepper sprayed.

    • @architeuthis3476
      @architeuthis3476 Před měsícem +2

      Absolutely! Cops always need to remain calm and professional. If not, then they aren't cut-out for police work.

    • @markthervguy
      @markthervguy Před měsícem

      @@SpencerfromEarth I’ve done it. It didn’t work out the way the fella thought it would for him.

    • @NitroDubzzz
      @NitroDubzzz Před měsícem +2

      Not when you're trying to harvest tax payer money

  • @StarrTile
    @StarrTile Před měsícem +61

    This guy needs to go to the Long Island Audit School of decorum 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @lechkenassh9008
    @lechkenassh9008 Před 18 dny +2

    that security guard should be in jail for false allegations !!! leading to the guy being cuffed and his freedom taken away from him !!!

  • @CentPacRR
    @CentPacRR Před měsícem +14

    Instead of confronting the Security guard who pepper sprayed him, Mr. Stone should have himself called 911 and reported the assault to police and ask that they respond and arrest the perpetrators.😊

  • @Rocketman9mm
    @Rocketman9mm Před měsícem +135

    Kind of hard for the cops to de-escalate when this guy is popping off rage-screaming the entire time while they're talking to him calmly and he wont' calm down.

    • @architeuthis3476
      @architeuthis3476 Před měsícem +12

      Maybe, but if the cops had been less hostile to him & more skeptical to the security guards, there might have at least been a chance

    • @T1HG_Gmo
      @T1HG_Gmo Před měsícem +7

      @@architeuthis3476security guards in tx are public servants and they called saying the guy was combative so the cops did what they are supposed to do

    • @architeuthis3476
      @architeuthis3476 Před měsícem +9

      @@T1HG_Gmo
      Wrong.
      If yoo want to say there was reason for the cops to handcuff that guy & hold onto his weapons, there may be some argument there, but he had been assaulted by the security guards who were armed with the weapons they assaulted him with (and the cops WERE informed of this), but the cops neither handcuffed them nor confiscated their weapons. The security guards were at least as much of a threat as he was - if not more - yet they were treated better than he was.

    • @zuxzux
      @zuxzux Před měsícem

      @@architeuthis3476This moron aggressively approached the first officer screaming at him and continued to scream the entire encounter. I hate piece of shit auditors like this.

    • @HotMonkeyDik
      @HotMonkeyDik Před měsícem +1

      ​@@architeuthis3476also its always bullshit when someone is surrounded by armed police, and they are like "we fear for our safety" so they gotta raise take extra annoying steps.

  • @Mister-Mike
    @Mister-Mike Před měsícem +220

    Private Security is not a Public Servant.

    • @theb.s.d.4707
      @theb.s.d.4707 Před měsícem +24

      In the state of Texas they are. The law states we are acting as public servants and an assault on a public servant is committed when you assault a security officer. Many places play fast and lose with the laws and it makes it difficult for those of us trying to hold to a higher standard.

    • @mandoguy726
      @mandoguy726 Před měsícem +5

      Public servants are not public servants either.

    • @JustMe-fo4ev
      @JustMe-fo4ev Před měsícem +5

      @@theb.s.d.4707 That's interesting. I assumed the same as OP but I looked this up after your comment and read more about it. Pretty weird how they handle it in Texas, imo - it seems like private security is also restricted a lot even though they're called officers. Lots of downside risk there.

    • @shroompicn-shrooman
      @shroompicn-shrooman Před měsícem +6

      Cops take away this guy's weapons for "their safety" why if the security guard is involved in the disturbance. Didn't they take the security guards weapons too ?

    • @lizcollinson2692
      @lizcollinson2692 Před měsícem +3

      Keeping up this cuffs detention as long as they did was antagonistic.
      Showing a two tier treatment.

  • @arthurhouston3
    @arthurhouston3 Před měsícem +5

    He does not have to ID to fill a complaint on the security officers or sue the property owners, cops, depts and tax payers.

    • @TheClonetruper
      @TheClonetruper Před měsícem +2

      You do need to ID yourself in order to sue. How else would anyone be able to properly claim something happened. Also you can’t sue someone without saying who you are.

  • @Johnny_C137
    @Johnny_C137 Před měsícem +3

    Handcuffs don't mean arrest, but if you are searched and your property seized in conjunction with your detainment in handcuffs, it may be a defacto arrest.

  • @mikeevans1912
    @mikeevans1912 Před měsícem +15

    Waited all weekend for this. Y'all have a great Monday!

    • @tomduckworth6430
      @tomduckworth6430 Před měsícem +3

      Monday morning tradition.

    • @Bosse_C
      @Bosse_C Před měsícem

      i only now realize there is a rhythm to this channels uploads… Thank you

  • @sharekabeckham6721
    @sharekabeckham6721 Před měsícem +21

    The security guard looking like security,but doing the right thing is another thing.

  • @Outnumberedbykidsandcats
    @Outnumberedbykidsandcats Před 15 dny +1

    The cop leaping out and being aggressive is a direct reaction to the security guard calling up and saying that he has weapons. That immediately puts the situation into something it shouldn’t be. The people who called need to be fined for that because that’s the only way to try to show people they can’t just say what they want to 911.

  • @vn0m427
    @vn0m427 Před měsícem +1

    It never ceases to amaze me how people can so boldly and confidently state something they are so very wrong about, yes cops can cuff you while you are detained.

  • @anthonnybrownnn9760
    @anthonnybrownnn9760 Před měsícem +22

    "Security guard lose it." He should be sack100% agree.

  • @mikecrain2076
    @mikecrain2076 Před měsícem +70

    People like this are the problem. The cops never once got hostile with this guy and as soon as they got there he started to get all hot at them. And then he uses their reaction to his anger to justify that anger

    • @Youngbuck3888
      @Youngbuck3888 Před měsícem +12

      The cops yelled at him the second they arrived. Did we watch the same video?

    • @jeffcuzzort4399
      @jeffcuzzort4399 Před měsícem +7

      They were called for a disturbance and the cop got out of his car immediately demanding compliance from the victim. No investigation, not one question, nothing. Just immediately assumed because the security guys called the man with the camera must be at fault.

    • @mikecrain2076
      @mikecrain2076 Před měsícem +6

      @jeffcuzzort4399 they were called for a disturbance with a guy with weapons, and the caller implied that he may have been attempting to use them. The cops had no way to know the caller was exaggerating. The cop acted appropriately and the guy refused to calm down long enough to explain what had happened

    • @mikedougherty2243
      @mikedougherty2243 Před měsícem +4

      @@mikecrain2076 The cop was aggressive from the time he got out of the car. The proper way for the cop to act when he arrived is to introduce himself and let the guy know that a call came in that he had a weapon and once he secured the weapon then start an investigation. Now if the guy then got aggressive and refused a weapons search, then that would’ve been an appropriate response by the cop.

    • @mikecrain2076
      @mikecrain2076 Před měsícem +3

      @mikedougherty2243 that's just not true. The caller implied that he attempted to use the weapon. At that point tge cop has to treat him as a suspect with a deadly weapon. And the first interaction is the suspect walking up to him in an aggressive manner and yelling at him.

  • @ManeatingSandwich
    @ManeatingSandwich Před měsícem +18

    You know they kept him in handcuffs as punishment for not licking the boot

    • @Super-cb3ic
      @Super-cb3ic Před měsícem +4

      Truth

    • @nodekapunk
      @nodekapunk Před měsícem +9

      Or maybe the fact he was a complete asshole the entire encounter.
      Not saying the cops were right, but the guy seems like a terrible person to even be around

    • @valentinius62
      @valentinius62 Před měsícem +2

      ​@@nodekapunkIf people were put in cuffs for being what you say he is, half the country would be in jail. But, we have this thing called "The Bill of Rights". Sorry.

    • @friedpotatoesa1083
      @friedpotatoesa1083 Před měsícem +3

      @@nodekapunk if the cops weren't right they weren't right, being an ass does negate your rights.

  • @peppersgc
    @peppersgc Před měsícem +1

    I still don't understand how not verbally identifying themselves isn't a violation of the Americans with Disabilities Act.

  • @johnchristopher5733
    @johnchristopher5733 Před měsícem +23

    Security guards are somehow getting stupider.

    • @brianhillis3701
      @brianhillis3701 Před měsícem

      Not really. I learned of a nuclear bomb (less trigger) was found in a farmers barn. A whole bunch of security guards messed up big time!!!

    • @frankrosemeck9898
      @frankrosemeck9898 Před měsícem +3

      As are "auditors."

    • @rogusmith2630
      @rogusmith2630 Před měsícem +2

      I mean its already extremely easy to be a cop as it is Id imagine being security guard is a walk in the park

    • @derekthornton3692
      @derekthornton3692 Před měsícem

      How were they supposed to handle that? They remained calm and called the police. What should they have done in your opinion?

  • @thesuperdingos
    @thesuperdingos Před měsícem +62

    That one security guard should be working as a mall Santa Claus. They really do just hire whoever.

    • @Ralof_McSkooma
      @Ralof_McSkooma Před měsícem +3

      As someone who's a janitor at a mall, they really do, most of them are either old or overweight.

    • @voodoomancer5183
      @voodoomancer5183 Před měsícem

      I've worked security for Allied Universal. They will literally sit down through the security test and talk to some people like they are 5 year olds to ensure they pass. Most of them dont fully understand how limited their authority really is. At most you are an agent of the property. Other than that, you're just a normal civilian.

    • @seeya205
      @seeya205 Před měsícem

      They don't need to be in shape to do their job. Many big cops as well and I would argue that they need to be physically fit to do their job.

    • @architeuthis3476
      @architeuthis3476 Před měsícem

      No, I don't want him pepper-spraying kids (and whoever else)

    • @austinwinston684
      @austinwinston684 Před měsícem

      You want that violent psycho around kids!?

  • @ThomasPaine223
    @ThomasPaine223 Před měsícem +3

    Security officers must present an active guard card when asked.

    • @AmericanNinja85
      @AmericanNinja85 Před měsícem

      No they don't. Not just to random citizen. To their superiors or to law enforcement but if a random citizen asks they don't have to show anything

    • @LibertyPrime1982
      @LibertyPrime1982 Před 26 dny

      Looks like you didn't see the video chud

  • @sydnidowney3598
    @sydnidowney3598 Před měsícem +13

    HOW ABOUT A GRADE FOR THE SECURITY GUARDS.

  • @michaelal20
    @michaelal20 Před měsícem +58

    This video only shows the “auditor” being loud and annoying but the title promised me a security officer losing it.

    • @theb.s.d.4707
      @theb.s.d.4707 Před měsícem +3

      He didnthe moment he used chemical agents and didn't move to provide medical aid. They are less lethal not nonlethal. Several cases have been cited where people have died from the after effects of chemical agents.

    • @seeya205
      @seeya205 Před měsícem +12

      @@theb.s.d.4707 You don't know if the photographer deserved it because we didn't see the initial interaction. By his aggressive demeanor, I think he probably did deserve it. Everyone was clam but him.

    • @fingers900
      @fingers900 Před měsícem +4

      ​@seeya205 i dont think id be calm after getting pepper sprayed

    • @JustMe-fo4ev
      @JustMe-fo4ev Před měsícem +9

      @@fingers900 True but even when the guy told his own version to the cops, he basically said he just randomly intervened in something that wasn't his business and then got aggressive and walked up on security. So if that's his version where he's probably trying to make himself look good...

    • @seeya205
      @seeya205 Před měsícem +5

      @@fingers900 I bet he was even more aggressive to the security. He admitted to being aggressive with them when he got sprayed.

  • @AirborneAudits
    @AirborneAudits Před měsícem +11

    2001 United States vs Valadez, 5th Circuit - The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit, which includes Texas, held that “once an officer's suspicions have been verified or dispelled, the detention MUST end unless there is additional articulable, reasonable suspicion.” “Further detention was NOT lawful after the point at which the purposes of the stop was resolved.”

  • @archstanton5603
    @archstanton5603 Před měsícem +1

    Accepting he'd just been pepper-sprayed (therefore upset & agitated) it would have probably been more advisable to have called the Police and EMS rather than confront the security guards directly.

  • @skapunkoialternativeliving6522
    @skapunkoialternativeliving6522 Před měsícem +13

    This is why it's good to always know your rights.

    • @portabull749
      @portabull749 Před měsícem +4

      What are you on about? He was on private property. Your bill of rights is only for the government. Did you even graduate high school?

    • @Super-cb3ic
      @Super-cb3ic Před měsícem +2

      Truth! Don't listen to the guy above ...even on private property we have rights lol . Portable ate to many crayons 😂

    • @portabull749
      @portabull749 Před měsícem +3

      @@Super-cb3ic you didn’t even pass English 1. There’s no way you even walked into a civics class. Go serve a hamburger, your clients are waiting.

    • @JamieMills-re5th
      @JamieMills-re5th Před měsícem

      Tf does being on private property have anything to do with anything? Do you're rights somehow magically disappear on private property?
      Obviously knowing your rights is relevant when interacting with police. Why does anyone need to explain this?

    • @skapunkoialternativeliving6522
      @skapunkoialternativeliving6522 Před měsícem +1

      @@JamieMills-re5th You took some nonsense. I already know all that. The thing is, do you know it?

  • @thelogicalcaveman9139
    @thelogicalcaveman9139 Před měsícem +52

    A security guard isn’t a public servant.

    • @Del_S
      @Del_S Před měsícem

      Everything's dumber in Texas

    • @valentinius62
      @valentinius62 Před měsícem

      Most "public servants" refuse to identify themselves, so what difference does it make.

    • @LibertyPrime1982
      @LibertyPrime1982 Před 26 dny

      ​@@Del_Swhat shithole state are you from, Jack?

  • @darylmixan8170
    @darylmixan8170 Před 8 dny

    Security guards are sweeet! I remember doing volunteer and lowpay security in my 20's...zero training, just I.D. checks, crowd control, and keep your eyes open etc... I remember the authority I thought I had... I thought I had to represent the owner or organizer... I never had any issues, but I know I probably would have trampled on people's rights, unknowingly, in a situation. Its crazy to think how very very little we are ever taught about our Rights growing up... You were always taught to comply with law enforcement and people in power.

  • @BDoggy45
    @BDoggy45 Před 25 dny +1

    That's what I was looking for, "disrespectful but protected speech"

  • @tomrowland6141
    @tomrowland6141 Před měsícem +26

    The videographer thinks private security guards are public servants? He needs more correct information.

    • @T1HG_Gmo
      @T1HG_Gmo Před měsícem +1

      They are in Texas

    • @glintinggold
      @glintinggold Před měsícem +2

      Maybe do a little research before you spout incorrect things

    • @robv5834
      @robv5834 Před měsícem

      @@T1HG_Gmowrong, they are regulated by DPS. Regulation doesn’t make them public servants or employees. DPS regulates my drivers license also, so am I now a public servant? 😂

    • @valentinius62
      @valentinius62 Před měsícem

      ​@@robv5834True. Just makes everyone who wants to drive a Subject.

    • @robv5834
      @robv5834 Před měsícem

      @@valentinius62 a subject? A subject of what?

  • @sethgriffin763
    @sethgriffin763 Před měsícem +12

    Security Guards are private right?

    • @Eidolon1andOnly
      @Eidolon1andOnly Před měsícem +2

      Yes, not "public servants" like dude claimed.

    • @T1HG_Gmo
      @T1HG_Gmo Před měsícem +1

      @@Eidolon1andOnlyin Texas they are

    • @glintinggold
      @glintinggold Před měsícem

      not in Texas.

    • @robv5834
      @robv5834 Před měsícem

      @@T1HG_Gmowrong. They are regulated by the DPS. Regulation doesn’t make them public servants.

  • @MoivinSulunker
    @MoivinSulunker Před měsícem +2

    a forcible stoppin of a suspected person.

  • @robertgantry2118
    @robertgantry2118 Před měsícem +1

    "Arrested". Government *loves* to re-define words.

  • @thedaily30
    @thedaily30 Před měsícem +14

    “James what?”
    “James… errr… James!”
    More brilliant people abusing perceived authority 🤦🏽‍♂️🤣

  • @joegug4751
    @joegug4751 Před měsícem +23

    All the dude did was give me a headache.

    • @glintinggold
      @glintinggold Před měsícem +3

      He had OC in his eyes, so I'm sure he wasn't at his Sunday best, Joe

  • @goodolbrad3
    @goodolbrad3 Před měsícem +2

    If after learning the security guards lied about him, the subject had chosen to calmly explain to officers that it wasn't true, and be wished to press charges as HE is the true complainant here, he probably would have been released much sooner and the outcome would have been different.
    I hope to hear an update that the security guard was charged. You can't pepper spray someone just for having an attitude.

  • @BLACKHEAT1028
    @BLACKHEAT1028 Před měsícem +11

    Why didn't they put the security guy in cuffs until they figure out what is goin on, it should be both parties not just one

    • @Figgy20000
      @Figgy20000 Před měsícem +2

      Did you watch the video? Cop was standing there patiently for a good 3 seconds with this lunatic approaching him before he decided to cuff him.
      When you have this shitty attitude towards everyone in your life you reap what you sow. Officer probably would have just talked to him politely if he wasn't scream shouted at and hostily appraoched the second he arrived.

    • @valentinius62
      @valentinius62 Před měsícem +1

      Read most of the comments here. There's your answer.

  • @paulwitherspoon2358
    @paulwitherspoon2358 Před měsícem +11

    Sometimes you make your own trouble. Dude was agitated and had a weapon, handcuffs were appropriate until he calmed down for the safety of the officers.

    • @alexursus4719
      @alexursus4719 Před měsícem

      Officer safety is bs, if you are afraid of people you should quit the police and go live in the mountains, away from civilization

    • @dannyfergusson3243
      @dannyfergusson3243 Před měsícem +1

      Its so funny how the entire community becomes blue pro when they see policing done right yet they claim we hate police by default

  • @Mattit123
    @Mattit123 Před měsícem +22

    You have a B- to a guy who just runs ups to a cop yelling for his name and badge number... Dude has no idea how to handle him self in a civilized manner .

    • @jpc347
      @jpc347 Před měsícem

      He heard the security guard make allegedly false claims about his actions and demeanour as well which makes his initial response to the arrival of police even more ridiculous. You know that these guys are claiming to the police that you're armed and aggressive and your first response upon seeing a police officer arrive is to approach aggressively and ignore commands. Man is lucky the police officer arriving on scene didn't draw on him.

  • @francishughes2016
    @francishughes2016 Před měsícem +1

    Jeez, You have GOT to sue these security guards, you HAVE to, if you dont, then the whole thing is a complete waste of time, i look forward to the follow up ! ! !.

  • @accident123W
    @accident123W Před měsícem +1

    Advocating for your rights requires KNOWING your rights. I’m glad he stood up for himself but I certainly think there was a better way to go about it.

  • @brianshaw373
    @brianshaw373 Před měsícem +27

    It’s a crying shame that these security guards are considered credible informants.

    • @brianhillis3701
      @brianhillis3701 Před měsícem +5

      They lied about several things. Need to watch the original video. This was so edited that it didn't even look like what really happened. AtA gets an F.

    • @EdwardGatey
      @EdwardGatey Před měsícem +1

      Observe and report ... no security guard needs any weapon.

  • @garfieldcouch4443
    @garfieldcouch4443 Před měsícem +6

    Have a nice work week y'all.

    • @cerealdude890
      @cerealdude890 Před měsícem +2

      Never thought I’d see Garfield optimistic on a Monday

  • @jgong1
    @jgong1 Před měsícem +1

    I once worked as a security officer for Securitas in California. We were trained only to observe and report. We were forbidden to intervene or pursue suspects. That being said without the beginning of the encounter I cannot say what if any actions the security officers were appropriate or not. But on video, I didn't see them do anything inappropriate. As for Mr. Stone, I don't know what happened in the beginning but judging by his action on film I am guessing he intervene on behalf of the boy on the bicycle basically sticking his nose in something not his business. His lack of understanding of police procedures and laws rubs me the wrong way and his antagonistic tone towards the officers made things harder than it had to be. The officers were professional and show patience with Mr. Stone. And yes they kept him in handcuffs throughout the encounter for good reason. He was armed and they had a call he was causing a disturbance. He was legally detain and there is no time limit on how long handcuffs can stay on someone. It is based on reasonableness. I again advise ATA to do a ride along with his local police department to participate in the local citizen police academy if they still exists.
    Security Guards: A. Officers A. Mr. Stone: F. ATA: B

  • @whothef4900
    @whothef4900 Před 8 dny +1

    Bro needs to calm the hell down when dealing with the cops. He got too aggressive with the cops as soon as the first one was getting out of his car. He needed to be detained at that point even if he did nothing wrong

  • @skapunkoialternativeliving6522

    Even though you fought the police officers in a sense. You cannot because sometimes even when they try to disescalate things. People are rational like this guy was loud and irrational. It's hard to calm down a person like this.

  • @AmazinglyBadGamer
    @AmazinglyBadGamer Před měsícem +6

    I'll say this once: "unlawful search AND SEIZURE".
    The semantics of "arrest" or "seizure" doesn't matter when both would be unlawful as there is no reason to deprive this man of his property.
    "Freedom does not end where your fear begins"

  • @P455w0rds
    @P455w0rds Před měsícem +2

    Logically handcuffing someone does mean "arrest". No matter time was/were put on the detained individual.

    • @TheClonetruper
      @TheClonetruper Před měsícem

      The definition of arrest contains the verbiage “take into custody”. He was never transported nor booked. So never arrested.

  • @apfelbasket
    @apfelbasket Před měsícem +2

    ATA you contridicted yourself! Claiming that he's being held too long, then moments later stating that they have the right to keep him in cuffs do to hear-say!!
    Besides there's a differance between having enough to run an investigation & having RAS for handcuffs!

  • @BillSmithBSartist
    @BillSmithBSartist Před měsícem +25

    B- is too generous for Stone.

    • @mbryson2899
      @mbryson2899 Před měsícem +11

      He was D level at best, a true Karen. It is telling that he did not share a recording of him being pepper sprayed.

    • @seeya205
      @seeya205 Před měsícem +5

      @@mbryson2899 Exactly! He knows he didn't look good in that video or he would have showed it.

    • @SacredOwl
      @SacredOwl Před měsícem

      Clearly the hothead gets an F. So does this channel for being bias. We all know that the "journalist" or was he a photographer that day, rushed up on that security guy like a rabid dog and got sprayed. He then tried to give us a completely different narrative. He was so pissed and probably pissed off at the world, that he went back for some more pepper spray, this time he wanted to get on camera in his favor. Mr. Stone is fooling nobody. He needs to go see someone about his problem. It would be better and his first step towards recovery if he gives us the real story, then goes and apologizes to the mall security.

    • @icecold9511
      @icecold9511 Před měsícem +2

      Every auditor talking point, so yeah, he had the camera going.

    • @Hannah82271
      @Hannah82271 Před měsícem +1

      okay, lets see how you act after you get pepper sprayed in the face by an obese security guard

  • @PepeToTheMooon
    @PepeToTheMooon Před měsícem +11

    Are security guards even allowed to go hands-on like spraying pepper spray??? Thought they were just glorified safety patrols.

    • @rykehuss3435
      @rykehuss3435 Před měsícem +6

      Only in defense (of self or other) I would assume. The same right you have.

    • @taylorlibby7642
      @taylorlibby7642 Před měsícem +2

      Depends on a few different factors, but sometimes yes.

    • @DemonaeTV
      @DemonaeTV Před měsícem +3

      Anyone is allowed to defend themselves if they fear for their life and safety. Without the altercation being on video we have no idea what led up to the pepper spray.
      The way this guy was acting, carrying a knife openly, I feel it's possible he was presenting as a danger to the guard.
      It's just not possible to know without further evidence.

    • @estebanbustamante5689
      @estebanbustamante5689 Před měsícem +1

      It depends on the state. In Arizona, we can.

    • @Josef_R
      @Josef_R Před měsícem +1

      Why do you think they would they be carrying it (or a gun) if they aren't allowed to use it?

  • @jakehix8132
    @jakehix8132 Před 10 dny

    The guy stating he's under arrest because his wrists are literally arrested by cuffs is some damn hillbilly lawyer logic, and I'm here for it!

  • @coocoo5756
    @coocoo5756 Před měsícem +9

    Security guard is supposed to be charged and arrested for the pepper spraying. Clean cut assault charges.

    • @nodekapunk
      @nodekapunk Před měsícem +2

      Yeah, was there video evidence of that encounter? I wonder why that didn’t make this video. Maybe he got up in the security guards face like he did the cops when they first got on one scene

    • @fuzz6938
      @fuzz6938 Před měsícem +1

      People love to run their mouth without knowing half the information.

    • @coocoo5756
      @coocoo5756 Před měsícem

      @@fuzz6938 I’m going based off the video. Unless you show me the complete video. I’ll stand with my statement

    • @LibertyPrime1982
      @LibertyPrime1982 Před 26 dny

      ​@coocoo5756 well then you're a smooth brain because you don't have the whole encounter to make that determination

  • @anthonnybrownnn9760
    @anthonnybrownnn9760 Před měsícem +17

    Security should control their nerves ,and not make the wrong decision.

  • @timothystanleyjafo8503
    @timothystanleyjafo8503 Před 20 dny +1

    If I had vision problems. Pointing to your name will Not Work ...... I love your site. Tim.

  • @PaintMyTaint
    @PaintMyTaint Před 17 dny

    How does infringing on a citizen's rights give the police officers a passing grade? Any unconstitutional act is an automatic F.

  • @12345678971926
    @12345678971926 Před měsícem +21

    If you’re the victim, you have to identify yourself reason why if they don’t have a victim they don’t got a case

    • @Don-mi6zl
      @Don-mi6zl Před měsícem +3

      No law requires victim to identify in Texas.

    • @Josef_R
      @Josef_R Před měsícem +6

      @@Don-mi6zl You don't need a law to know that if there is no record of you being victimized, then it never happened. I mean really, how stupid do you have to be to think you're gonna pursue something in court when the court has no idea who you are? You gotta be really stupid to not understand that.

    • @Extem1
      @Extem1 Před měsícem +7

      ​@@Don-mi6zl If you want there to be a case yes you do. Having an anonymous victim is a violation of a defendant's right to face their accuser.

    • @Don-mi6zl
      @Don-mi6zl Před měsícem

      @@Extem1 Not at all. Those like yourself have been caught yea s later with recordings of children they molested that can't be tracked down and are still prosecuted despite the victims not being identified. The security video is more than enough to convict the fat slug security guard. If his defense wants to track down his victim and out them on the stand to ensure his conviction they can but the police cannot force the victim to identify.

    • @AmericanNinja85
      @AmericanNinja85 Před měsícem

      If the victim wants to file charges then yes if not then they don't

  • @beautifuldisaster139
    @beautifuldisaster139 Před měsícem +7

    the first officer got out & literally starting yelling don’t resist & never once told dude he was being detained or anything so a person isn’t resisting if they were never told they were being cuffed or detained

    • @Figgy20000
      @Figgy20000 Před měsícem

      Did you even bother to watch the video before posting this fucking horseshit? Officer got out and stood there calmly for a full 3 seconds while this guy approached him screaming while brandishing a concealed knife that they knew about on the 911 call before deciding to detain him.
      What the fuck do you want the officers to do? Wait until some crazy lunatic they've never met before literally stabbed him? What the fuck is wrong with you. Officer came in LITERALLY as patient as he could have possibly been. The crazy cameraman did this to himself.

  • @skapunkoialternativeliving6522

    Facts, the guy was combative. And you want the police officer to become? How's the police officer continually? And the police officers keep telling them to calm down. This is a matter how madua show the police officers. Some respect when you talk remember, they don't know what's going on. They're gone by what they were called to answer fault. So the guy who called even though he knows his rights, he was arrogant and pretty loud and ridiculous.

  • @GoGuard84
    @GoGuard84 Před měsícem +1

    Pepper sprayed guy should get an F for turning an easy lawsuit into much more.

  • @RabbiJesus
    @RabbiJesus Před měsícem +17

    Unless you’re yelling for help, it’s probably not a good idea to scream at an officer.

    • @Platoface
      @Platoface Před měsícem

      😂 lick them boots while your at it.

    • @Super-cb3ic
      @Super-cb3ic Před měsícem +1

      Never ask an officer gor help lol

    • @Bosse_C
      @Bosse_C Před měsícem +2

      @@Super-cb3icwish the dislike counter was visible

    • @RabbiJesus
      @RabbiJesus Před měsícem +1

      @@Super-cb3ic have you tried not being a piece of shit?

  • @FruitvilleBoy
    @FruitvilleBoy Před měsícem +7

    Isn’t that the guy that drives around at night time in Texas spotlight to the cops? These guys are losers. No life whatsoever

    • @Youngbuck3888
      @Youngbuck3888 Před měsícem

      He's not an auditor so your comment is completely irrelevent in this guy's case.

  • @MysteryMan404
    @MysteryMan404 Před měsícem +2

    They LOST it

  • @nottelling5415
    @nottelling5415 Před měsícem +1

    This video is the perfect example why you should remain calm. His demanding attitude, although probably justified made the situation a lot worse than it was.

  • @asdfffs
    @asdfffs Před měsícem +1

    With the erratic behaviour of this guy I'm not entirely convinced he deserved the pepper spray to begin with. Sounds and acts like someone who acts stupid and entitled and got pepper sprayed because of it.

  • @jaimeortega4940
    @jaimeortega4940 Před měsícem +5

    As the pepper sprayed victim is the complainant asking for medical help and not the mall cops he should never have been "detained" or "cuffed" and had his property illegally seized as per the mall cops "he didn't use those on us." Because it was all on camera.

    • @dannyfergusson3243
      @dannyfergusson3243 Před měsícem

      Based on the report he was wielding a pointy weapon ergo scissors with a pointy edge detaining him and putting him down was for sure prudent

    • @jpc347
      @jpc347 Před měsícem +1

      The cops were called for an alleged aggressive person armed with a weapon and who was willing to use it. When they arrived a man approached them who was clearly agitated and refused to listen to them when they requested him to stop and turn around. In that situation it's totally reasonable to stop and retain that person until you can figure out what's going on. It was the guy's own demeanour that got himself into that situation.

  • @michaelherring7210
    @michaelherring7210 Před měsícem +8

    There are a lot of cops there! The security guards never denied pepper spraying him either, so he was a victim of a crime. I don’t even know what crime they alleged he committed.

    • @phofire77
      @phofire77 Před měsícem

      Depends how he engaged the first time. For example if he was using the same demeanor when he approached the other interaction and kept crowding in, then it would be completely understandable for him to get pepper sprite of that point.

  • @gregwelsh2985
    @gregwelsh2985 Před 10 dny

    "Observe and Report" there's a really good reason it's not, "Observe, Report, Pepper Stray, and Handcuff". It's because a security guard is not a police officer.
    Turns out the cops are not much more informed. I'd be embarrassed if these idiots worked in my community.

  • @fatherfenway8199
    @fatherfenway8199 Před měsícem +1

    This guy needed detained. Probably also a psychological evaluation

  • @stacyannraid5237
    @stacyannraid5237 Před měsícem +13

    Some of these security guards too quickl to act.they should be arrested .

  • @milesterwillegar9973
    @milesterwillegar9973 Před měsícem +4

    Both security guards need to be fired and their certifications revoked. The cops need to be reprimanded and re-trained.

  • @emilymalinowski5027
    @emilymalinowski5027 Před 4 dny

    I absolutely LOVE the audit vids with Security Gaurds ❤

  • @Rowgue51
    @Rowgue51 Před měsícem +1

    The handcuffs don't automatically in and of themselves transform a detention into an arrest. But it's a very significant factor, and coupled with the fact that he was also searched and had some of his property seized it's clear that in this case this was clearly a custodial arrest.

  • @GaigeChan
    @GaigeChan Před měsícem +5

    I don't give two shyts what the convoluted law of man says. If you are handcuffed, you are under arrest. PERIOD.

    • @user-ml1cj1nw4y
      @user-ml1cj1nw4y Před 13 dny

      Exactly if you take away my freedom of movement then I’m under arrested movement which means I can not control my actions of my free will. Simple if the cuffs come out and it’s non consensual it’s an arrest

  • @phukyerpheefees
    @phukyerpheefees Před měsícem +6

    9:30
    Really?
    He used "minimal force" to detain him?
    He was aggressive and confrontational from the onset and immediately used force to restrain a citizen before gathering even the most basic facts or giving any time to comply with his orders, and never had a reasonable fear for his safety in order to justify the restraint.
    AtA already earned an F less than halfway into the video.
    AtA appears to be getting more and more comfortable licking the boot over time...

    • @phukyerpheefees
      @phukyerpheefees Před měsícem +2

      And he completely earned that F by continuing to justify the unconstitutional restraint until the very end.

    • @seeya205
      @seeya205 Před měsícem +1

      He came agressivelyat the officer and had weapons. The office had every right to detain him for his own safety. If the guy was calm and cool then he wouldn't be in cuffs.

    • @phukyerpheefees
      @phukyerpheefees Před měsícem +2

      @@seeya205
      No, he didn't.
      He was, at most, agitated when he approached the officer, not aggressive.
      The possession of weapons is not, in and of itself reasonably frightening, and they could have simply disarmed him without restraining him, which could have easily been voluntarily achieved had he approached the situation calmly and rationally instead of fearfully and aggressively.
      Also, the guy approached the officer obviously filming, which is not characteristic of people about to commit a violent crime, further weakening the constitutionally required fear for safety necessary to justify the physical restraints placed on a private citizen.
      How's that bootleather taste, @seeya205?

    • @user-ml1cj1nw4y
      @user-ml1cj1nw4y Před 13 dny

      @@phukyerpheefeesalso he states himself the skizors were on his backpack. Simple ,”take off your backpack friend” and he woulda had no problem, the. A “hand me the pepper spray I’m checking if I can see any signs of recent use dripping fluid warm to the touch because it was held, and in the video the security has the pepperspray in his hand most of the time.

  • @KeonRamezani
    @KeonRamezani Před 8 dny

    That was an extraordinarily generous grade for Mr. Stone.

  • @airmech6271
    @airmech6271 Před 15 dny

    As a German I am not familiar with US laws, why are US citizens so strikt on refusing on giving their name to police officers, claiming they don’t have to as they didn’t commit crime. Wouldn’t giving the name make the whole process easier anf quicker?

  • @MaydayAggro
    @MaydayAggro Před měsícem +4

    The officers admitted that RAS was dispelled, and he should have immediately been released from handcuffs.