What if the Carlist Movement Succeeded?

In this inaugural video of a new series called "What If? Monarchies" I will investigate into what would have happened to the Spanish monarchy had the Carlist movement (supporting Ferdinand VII's brother as rightful heir) been successful.
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www.jstor.org/stable/30098167
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlism
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[@kitkatzyy]

Imagine if “King John I” had actually become King to all the thrones he was pretender to. King of Spain, France, and Mexico! Now that’s an empire!

[@Riftrender]

He would be John III in France and Spain.

[@bentos117]

apart from ever-present Utopia, each person would have a second name, Carl

[@radtradpeasant]

Congratulations for this very interesting video! You could also have included Sixto as one of the actual claimants, the uncle of Carlos Javier. As for how would have the carlist monarchy endured, I think that despite all, there would have been some kind of liberal uprising agaisnt the monarchy, just like General Riego during the reign of Ferdinand VII. Also you must have in mind that carlism is not only rooted in the dinastic dispute, but also with a completely different understanding of Spain and the monarchy. I recomend you a book called Carlism and Crisis in Spain 1931-1939 by Martin Blinkhorn, who traces the roots of carlism back to the Spanish Succession War of 1700, understanding Carlism as an oposition movement against Enlightment, centralism, rationalism and liberalism brought by some of the Bourbons, and also taking in mind that Isabel II had the support of moderate liberals while Carlos Maria Isidro wanted an absolute or traditional monarchy.

[@JakeTheGenealogist]

Thanks for the book recommendation!

[@luiscastaneda4583]

King Henry V (Sixtus Henry of Bourbon-Parme) is the actual Carlist King of Spain, not his nephew, since King Henry V keeps the principles of Carlism while both Charles Javier and his father Charles Hugo (King Henry V's brother) renounced to those principles.

[@Bobby4USN]

Dios, Patria, Fueros, Rey

[@cameronwixcey9692]

The fact the current king is a carlist claimant reminds me of the fact that the queen was the 3rd claimant for the jacobites after Liechtenstein's childless ruler and childless heir.

[@JakeTheGenealogist]

Interesting. Didn't know that

[@LucasHorst-zi3rl]

very good video it would be interesting to see future videos talking about if the Portuguese monarchy had saved or one what would Spain be like if the Habsburgs had won the war of spanish succession

[@JakeTheGenealogist]

Thanks for the kind words! I’ll keep your suggestions in mind

[@Riftrender]

Carlos V reminds me of Stannis.

[@TyranyFighterPatriot]

It is more than a political movement.
It is a religiously Doctrinally pure movement. In short, the continuation of the old Catholic Imperial Spain which refuses to cease to exist. There's still many circles left. The only based Catholic movement.

[@zakariakaleem3271]

Good to see you back, would you ever consider doing a video on west asian dynasties(Iran, Afghanistan, Kurdish regions and parts of Pakistan and India)

[@JakeTheGenealogist]

Glad to be back! I would consider doing a video about that someday

[@justinpachi3707]

Ngl, you didn't really address any of the real issues or topics pertinent to the Carlists. There's so many changes that would take place with the Carlists ruling Spain on a societal, cultural, economic, and political level.

[@JakeTheGenealogist]

Thanks for the feedback. Maybe I’ll try to address more of those things in future videos

[@Riftrender]

I dont agree with that numbering.

[@homero_con_lechuguilla]

The serious mistake you are making here is that you are using a line of descent that runs in parallel to the present day but which would have nothing to do with Charles of Bourbon had he been king.

[@JakeTheGenealogist]

Not sure what you mean here? Ferdinand VII had no sons, so if the tradition of Salic Law was upheld, then the throne must have passed to his younger brother Charles of Bourbon and his male descendants thereafter

[@garrysekelli6776]

If Hymen had simply pronounced his name properly as Jamie or James or something then I think there wouldn't have been any problem. But no instead he had to start acting all ghetto n shii.