It's so crazy that nobody wanted the Spaceship beat. It was so different but that's what made me love it instantly. 20 something years later and I never got tired of that or any of this album
your ability to reverse-engineer other people's beats is seriously uncanny, I've never seen anything like it. These videos are fascinating, keep em coming!
Man. I’m 31 so I was still kind of young when this came out but it really was landmark, and you could tell when he was producing for other artists as well. His style was so recognizable. He’s just such a great orchestrator. he changed the landscape of mainstream rap and popular music in general
It's a bit pedantic but Spaceship isn't in 3/4 it's in 6/8, the backbeat is on 4. Dilla did a lot of moving 6/8 samples into 4/4 songs and 4/4 samples into 6/8 songs, it wasn't an unheard-of technique, Kayne just did it particularly well here.
The beat that so many people had passed on was "Last call" (actually only Jay-Z and Beanie, which isn't many at all, but two), not "Spaceships" as GLC is clearly saying in the quote that you highlighted. You (accidentaly?) misconstrued what he was saying. Also: Soul samples had been popular starting with "The Blueprint" and it's not at all like people didn't want Kanye's beats at the time. On the contrary: He had to hold back his favorites for himself and was constantly trying to do so.
That spaceship beat and strong is amazing, I love it. Inspirational. Kanye was not a crowd follower, he's a creative genius. Fantastic breakdown as well this is, hats off to you.
your videos are truly amazing, really love to watch your content! would love to see a tutorial on how The Alchemist makes these spacey weird laser effects/synths with the crazy delay (sorry dont really know how to describe them). great stuff really ❣
I always knew Kanye‘s Sampling skills are out of this world but I never realized how crazy he went before I startet beatmaking he truly is the GOAT imo
I've always sampled like this, jus not in hiphop, for years, I never like to sample straight forward samples, but I chop up and plat sample chops over each other.
I really hoped I would never have to listen to Chingy again 😂. Thank you for these videos. I have no technical skills but my ears have always told me Kanye’s production is the peak of hip hop.
This is what happens when you study good music, you sample to add your flavor to an already great song. The reason for the "odd" sample 3/4 timing is because he chose to keep the original bass while tweeking the timing to fit a hip hop style. The high hat placement is also an example of this, it really is not needed but is added at the end of the second pattern to introduce a sense of excitement or expectation. It is really something else, but to be honest if you actually listen to music vs pop music, you will notice these things more often, and many times there really is no science behind it, just feel it.
Thank you for addressing this. This is not intended rocket science, producers just do what they feel. I used to make beats with samples and the loops were sometimes very random. Sometimes the sample came in before the 1. Sometimes I used elements from the intro of the sample to become part of the main loop. DJ Premiere , Pete Rock, J Dilla, Q-Tip, The RZA, Large Professor, Marley Marl and the list goes on. They have all been known to do these things and not based on some kind of strategy. Only outsiders of the culture come in and dissect every little thing to provide their explanation on what it really is. Sound familiar at all? Amazing isn't it ? smh
Ye really put hov over w these beats. And Jay knew who to pay and how to het around sampling issues so he had no problem bringing this sound back into hip hop
Ge Navie ive went too everyone about the constant pops n clicks in my fl studio 20 i have an Hp desktop with 16 gb of ram im using 8 of the 16 ive watch every tutorial on how to fix it i just wanna make good music i need your help my brotha thanks
Hi guys i have a problem with sarato Sample If I have a chop that's doesn't long enough for like 1 bar and i want it to last for 1 bar then how to stretch it to last 1 bar long in sarato sample I mean in fl studio to fit chop perfectly on the grid we just stretch the chop to set on grid For example if we want a chop to last 1 bar long we just stretch it to 1 bar in playlist view Also in slice x if a chop is short and if we want to play it all the way to the end of the bar we take the cursor and put it to the exact part of where we want the sample to end then we check the time length of the bar then we go to slice x highlight the chop press alt+T and type how long we want the chop to last(bar/beats time length) soo how to do the same thing in sarato is there any way to do this And sorry for my english 😅
I have a question. Do the chops on Spaceship play monophonically or are there parts that they blend? As I am constructing beats I find it more intuitive to play chops and each chop cancels the other out but would like to practice doing otherwise if it is more musically sound. Thank you for your content homie. You do great breakdowns and contribute wonderful music yourself. Super skilled shit.
no way to know unless u ask kanye. he might have did it like its shown in the video or did it on two different tracks. remember we not takling about computer rn we talking about asr 10 possibly MPC. if he played both things in same track, idk if he will be able to apply effects to two very different soudns. try it out though
I heard Kanye used the 3/4 measure on his song Champion too. How do you even sample using other time measures like that? Can we get a video on that too?
@@keejay12 listen to "Hi" by J Dilla, the original sample is in 6/8, but Dilla played the chops on beats 1 and 3 of a 4/4 beat and because the original sample is in 6/8, it gives it a really heavy swing, or like in one of my beats, i took a drum break in 7/8 and added an extra snare and hihat hit to even it out to 8/8 or 4/4 . Or let's say you have a sample that is like a long phrase of notes that's in 3/4, you can play the long sustained notes either shorter than their original duration in your chop to change the rhythm, or you can chop the end off of one of the notes, play the chop to the end and then play the chop of the end of the note to make the one not last longer, extend it by a beat or two, thusly making it any time signature you want
@@koolmaaan I don't know much about other measures. I'll admit that. But why did you have to start off being didactic and patronizing as if you know me? Lol
Hey Navie D, have you ever thought about making some content about tyler the creator's productions? Both from the beginning when he was still in odd future, and during his solo career.
One factor for me as far as a producer or artist in general, Not many people are looking for great music anymore. Its about social statis now, not based on skill. People's attention spans have shortened over the years. It's hard enogh to get someone to give you a listen when you put out a new project. Copy amd paste producers dont have a style anymore. No individuality!!
I mean … Madvillainy, Champion Sound, Electric Circus, Cannibal Ox The Cold Vein, Fantastic Damage, Blazing Arrow (Blackalicious debut), Jurassic 5 debut (Strength in Numbers?) RJD2 debut, DJ Shadow’s second album, MM … Food, Vaudville Villain, The Grind Date, Get Rich Or Die Trying, The Black Album, Take Me To Your Leader, Pete Rock’s Petestrumentals, The Blueprint, a couple of Beatnut’s albums, a couple more Jay Dee/Dilla albums (Jay Loves Japan, Welcome to Detroit, Ruff Draft; and obviously a lot of the beats for Donuts and The Shining were already finished because we had them on beat tapes, or they were already songs on other artists independent releases or upcoming albums) … all came out before or essentially the same time as Kanye’s album. And many of those album, if not most of those albums, were more adventurous and innovative than Kanye’s from a sampling perspective (although not all as commercially successful or poppy), particularly the Dilla stuff, whom Kanye cribbed a lot of his sampling and drum techniques through their shared participation on the Common albums. A bit of revisionist history to fit the narrative you wanted to create for your video, guy?
you make it sound weird but it is not, it is actually pretty logical.. it is called chopping up samples in a way that gives that old skool dj vibe, that ius where the snare on the first bar comes from. spinning the record, looping certain parts, repeating a line while you play with the double snare.. just look at the average old skool dj battle, I think this is why we started doing this with samples on the mpc giving that mixtape vibe
It really reminds me, how the black church worships inside the church. How inside the worship, strange things, we just suddenly happens to distract the music or people we play how they won because they got lead by the spirit and he structures his songs the same way.
Great video and i always wonder what these top artist use to get the stems out of a track they want to sample? I recently tried RipX and while its not perfect, i does a amazing thing so im wondering if there is something like this on the market that the pro people use
He didn’t “revive” it. But def kept the boom bap twist to it. Errbody has been sampling everyday til this day 50 cent get rich or die tryin had samples so did ja rule “mesmerized” and more
I known Kanye since were kids living in South shore Dr. and I stayed on 77th and Coles across the street from St. Brides. Kanye never came outside alot but one time he came out and rode bikes with us down a dirt hill near Rainbow Beach, but there was a gang that tried to steal our bikes and Me and Kanye got away but Stanley his bike stolen. A nice red huffy trick bike stolen. Kanye really couldn't come out because his mom worked alot.
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It's so crazy that nobody wanted the Spaceship beat. It was so different but that's what made me love it instantly. 20 something years later and I never got tired of that or any of this album
Favorite beat off Dropout.
I think its cause it wasnt in a standard 4x4 time signature, most rappers couldn't catch the beat lol
it was the last call beat, if you look at the article he highlighted, they were talking about last call.
People are tryna make hits so anything different they avoid
@@ScottThePisces yeah thats why i dont like it
I love the way Kanye added a lot of Gospel, Jazz, etc in his beats and most of the hip hop producers thought they were WEIRD 😅
buncha company people
These are my favorite vids you make I love this format of like a video essay but also teaching production skills
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I am having fun making them, so I am glad you all are liking them!
your ability to reverse-engineer other people's beats is seriously uncanny, I've never seen anything like it. These videos are fascinating, keep em coming!
Wow thank you. I could never described back in the days why I loved space ship so hard. This deconstruction was on point and amazing. Great video 💯💯💯
What a strange beat when you really break it down
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Man. I’m 31 so I was still kind of young when this came out but it really was landmark, and you could tell when he was producing for other artists as well. His style was so recognizable. He’s just such a great orchestrator. he changed the landscape of mainstream rap and popular music in general
You should make one on DJ Shadow!
Oooh his use of samples is pretty incredible
@@NavieD Exactly! It would be really interesting to hear your thoughts on his drum techniques too, and of course his use of classical music samples!
It's a bit pedantic but Spaceship isn't in 3/4 it's in 6/8, the backbeat is on 4. Dilla did a lot of moving 6/8 samples into 4/4 songs and 4/4 samples into 6/8 songs, it wasn't an unheard-of technique, Kayne just did it particularly well here.
bro just recreated 2 kanye songs from zero. respect
It's not odd timing for those hi-hats. They are SWUNG. You said so.
revived? sampling has never gone anywhere, in fact it has only increased in popularity since 85
The beat that so many people had passed on was "Last call" (actually only Jay-Z and Beanie, which isn't many at all, but two), not "Spaceships" as GLC is clearly saying in the quote that you highlighted. You (accidentaly?) misconstrued what he was saying. Also: Soul samples had been popular starting with "The Blueprint" and it's not at all like people didn't want Kanye's beats at the time. On the contrary: He had to hold back his favorites for himself and was constantly trying to do so.
I'm pretty sure you see Jay listening to "Last Call" in the "Fade to Black" documentary.
That spaceship beat and strong is amazing, I love it. Inspirational. Kanye was not a crowd follower, he's a creative genius. Fantastic breakdown as well this is, hats off to you.
You forgot the part where you're supposed to drive your Lexus into a wall.
Aside from that, great tutorial
Hahah true, that is the secret to making great beats. Must drive car into wall
This is one of the best best breakdowns I’ve seen 😳
im so happy i fund this channel, this is the best, love from dominican republic
Love these breakdown vids with your commentary!
Great video! Love the style of breakdown, it was easy to digest and apply.
Loving this Kanye's creative style videos, want more of them!
keep it up man, you are doing awesome things for the producer community
Love this format of videos man ‼️
In my opinion, making your chops seamless is imperative! Good video 👍🏾
wow. this video has helped me to appreciate the details of this song so much more now. excellent video
BROOOOOO THANK YOUUUUUUUUU SOOOO MUCHHH, you literally solved this mystery for me, im already subscribed man, thanks alot!
This is such a great video, kanyes beats are so interesting to look into
Im sure kanye watchin this going "YES. EXACTLY. THEY LEARNIN!"
This is the best type of content. Thank you ❤
Spaceship 🚀 is by far my favorite songs off of the album!!! Also I love two words as well!!! Amongst the entire album
Amazing video. Just amazing. Well done man.
your videos are truly amazing, really love to watch your content! would love to see a tutorial on how The Alchemist makes these spacey weird laser effects/synths with the crazy delay (sorry dont really know how to describe them). great stuff really ❣
i've been wonderkng the same thing!! we need some amswers
dope channel bro. Informative and engaging
love your videos dude. keep up!
You helped me a lot on making my own beats and samples.. thank you so much and keep it up🔥❤️
I love this!!
2:48 I can listen to this for hours 😍
You should make a video on Easy Mo Bee's technique of chopping and especially drum programming
Really nice video so far
Fully active bro🎉
Bro this was soo awesome , learnt so much 🤝🙌
Please make another one of "Graduation"
Thank you Palash! It might be on my list
@@NavieD 😳🤫
The whole concept was cold, but I always thought those swung hi hats made that Spaceship beat 🔥🔥🔥
Damn! You version of spaceship is also dope asf🔥🔥😅
I always knew Kanye‘s Sampling skills are out of this world but I never realized how crazy he went before I startet beatmaking he truly is the GOAT imo
Very helpful this super interesting
crazy good video
I've always sampled like this, jus not in hiphop, for years, I never like to sample straight forward samples, but I chop up and plat sample chops over each other.
Back with the bang 💥
Boom!
Surprised that instead of nostalgia for Chingy you “hoped you never have to hear him again”. Love your videos
I once tried to recreate the Spaceship beat... I failed miserably.
You should definitely do more Kanye videos
Diving into his mind is opening mines more
@7:50 that’s insane bro remade the melody and took a tiny piece of the original 😮 just to incorporate the original feel 😮
Man it’s dope
i love ur vids 💜💜
Could you make one on Monte Booker? I just love his production
Martes por la mañana son de Navie D, saludos. 🤘🏽🇵🇷
I really hoped I would never have to listen to Chingy again 😂. Thank you for these videos. I have no technical skills but my ears have always told me Kanye’s production is the peak of hip hop.
YOU ARE A DAWG FOR CHOPPING IT THWAY HE DID😭🔥🫡🫡
This is what happens when you study good music, you sample to add your flavor to an already great song. The reason for the "odd" sample 3/4 timing is because he chose to keep the original bass while tweeking the timing to fit a hip hop style. The high hat placement is also an example of this, it really is not needed but is added at the end of the second pattern to introduce a sense of excitement or expectation. It is really something else, but to be honest if you actually listen to music vs pop music, you will notice these things more often, and many times there really is no science behind it, just feel it.
Thank you for addressing this. This is not intended rocket science, producers just do what they feel. I used to make beats with samples and the loops were sometimes very random. Sometimes the sample came in before the 1. Sometimes I used elements from the intro of the sample to become part of the main loop. DJ Premiere , Pete Rock, J Dilla, Q-Tip, The RZA, Large Professor, Marley Marl and the list goes on. They have all been known to do these things and not based on some kind of strategy. Only outsiders of the culture come in and dissect every little thing to provide their explanation on what it really is. Sound familiar at all? Amazing isn't it ? smh
Ye really put hov over w these beats. And Jay knew who to pay and how to het around sampling issues so he had no problem bringing this sound back into hip hop
Ge Navie ive went too everyone about the constant pops n clicks in my fl studio 20 i have an Hp desktop with 16 gb of ram im using 8 of the 16 ive watch every tutorial on how to fix it i just wanna make good music i need your help my brotha thanks
Hi guys i have a problem with sarato Sample
If I have a chop that's doesn't long enough for like 1 bar and i want it to last for 1 bar then how to stretch it to last 1 bar long in sarato sample
I mean in fl studio to fit chop perfectly on the grid we just stretch the chop to set on grid
For example if we want a chop to last 1 bar long we just stretch it to 1 bar in playlist view
Also in slice x if a chop is short and if we want to play it all the way to the end of the bar we take the cursor and put it to the exact part of where we want the sample to end then we check the time length of the bar then we go to slice x highlight the chop press alt+T and type how long we want the chop to last(bar/beats time length) soo how to do the same thing in sarato is there any way to do this
And sorry for my english 😅
spaceships beat is incredible
how did you take that sample using fl studio....do you have a video on that
In the early 2thousands no one wanted to use samples cause of copyright but as of 2020 especially the drill scene all you get is samples and remakes
I really hope I didn’t have to listen to Chingy in my life!!!! Love it
Bro I’m so amazed, it’s like you read Kanye’s mind while he was making this beat. Crazy 😭
😂
Super frustrating that they don't think the producer is the artist.
The original producer, yes.
Yeah, like “just” a producer like that isn’t a big deal. They only MAKE the song
You could say the same about people who use other people samples
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I have a question. Do the chops on Spaceship play monophonically or are there parts that they blend? As I am constructing beats I find it more intuitive to play chops and each chop cancels the other out but would like to practice doing otherwise if it is more musically sound.
Thank you for your content homie. You do great breakdowns and contribute wonderful music yourself. Super skilled shit.
no way to know unless u ask kanye. he might have did it like its shown in the video or did it on two different tracks. remember we not takling about computer rn we talking about asr 10 possibly MPC. if he played both things in same track, idk if he will be able to apply effects to two very different soudns.
try it out though
might get new ideas
never thought the beat is that complicated
I heard Kanye used the 3/4 measure on his song Champion too. How do you even sample using other time measures like that? Can we get a video on that too?
You can chop any time signature into any other one by repeating certain phrases and having uneven loops to add variation to them
@@BossDrSample explain pls
@@keejay12 listen to "Hi" by J Dilla, the original sample is in 6/8, but Dilla played the chops on beats 1 and 3 of a 4/4 beat and because the original sample is in 6/8, it gives it a really heavy swing, or like in one of my beats, i took a drum break in 7/8 and added an extra snare and hihat hit to even it out to 8/8 or 4/4 . Or let's say you have a sample that is like a long phrase of notes that's in 3/4, you can play the long sustained notes either shorter than their original duration in your chop to change the rhythm, or you can chop the end off of one of the notes, play the chop to the end and then play the chop of the end of the note to make the one not last longer, extend it by a beat or two, thusly making it any time signature you want
@@koolmaaan I don't know much about other measures. I'll admit that. But why did you have to start off being didactic and patronizing as if you know me? Lol
Hey Navie D, have you ever thought about making some content about tyler the creator's productions? Both from the beginning when he was still in odd future, and during his solo career.
Just noticed Kanye sample my version Heaven Found - Beat Monstarrs
sir 🔥❤️✊🏻
Distant Lover is one of my favorite songs of all time…some songs aren’t meant to be sampled
Editing on 10
heatmakers sound
NAVIE WHERE DID YOU FIND THE DRUMS FOR SPACESHIP
One factor for me as far as a producer or artist in general, Not many people are looking for great music anymore. Its about social statis now, not based on skill. People's attention spans have shortened over the years. It's hard enogh to get someone to give you a listen when you put out a new project.
Copy amd paste producers dont have a style anymore. No individuality!!
I mean … Madvillainy, Champion Sound, Electric Circus, Cannibal Ox The Cold Vein, Fantastic Damage, Blazing Arrow (Blackalicious debut), Jurassic 5 debut (Strength in Numbers?) RJD2 debut, DJ Shadow’s second album, MM … Food, Vaudville Villain, The Grind Date, Get Rich Or Die Trying, The Black Album, Take Me To Your Leader, Pete Rock’s Petestrumentals, The Blueprint, a couple of Beatnut’s albums, a couple more Jay Dee/Dilla albums (Jay Loves Japan, Welcome to Detroit, Ruff Draft; and obviously a lot of the beats for Donuts and The Shining were already finished because we had them on beat tapes, or they were already songs on other artists independent releases or upcoming albums) … all came out before or essentially the same time as Kanye’s album.
And many of those album, if not most of those albums, were more adventurous and innovative than Kanye’s from a sampling perspective (although not all as commercially successful or poppy), particularly the Dilla stuff, whom Kanye cribbed a lot of his sampling and drum techniques through their shared participation on the Common albums.
A bit of revisionist history to fit the narrative you wanted to create for your video, guy?
you make it sound weird but it is not, it is actually pretty logical.. it is called chopping up samples in a way that gives that old skool dj vibe, that ius where the snare on the first bar comes from. spinning the record, looping certain parts, repeating a line while you play with the double snare.. just look at the average old skool dj battle, I think this is why we started doing this with samples on the mpc giving that mixtape vibe
I need that video of trip hop beatmaking please😢
Hmmm that might be cool
1:30 ive stop using sample for the last 2 years to get better at other sounds , ive only sampled one song snice
You should make a video on the alchemists new album
Hey Naive, how do you get multiple chops to play at the same time on serato. Mine just cuts the other out
Change the mode from mono to poly
In the top left corner, it gives you the option of mono and poly
It really reminds me, how the black church worships inside the church. How inside the worship, strange things, we just suddenly happens to distract the music or people we play how they won because they got lead by the spirit and he structures his songs the same way.
Damn son 🔥
Great video and i always wonder what these top artist use to get the stems out of a track they want to sample? I recently tried RipX and while its not perfect, i does a amazing thing so im wondering if there is something like this on the market that the pro people use
I'm pretty sure Kanye used to get session musicians to replay the part he wants to sample
They couldn't hear it until they had no choice but to hear it,... In it's time
Do a video on yeezus pls
"beatmaking" is a funny word to use for him
He didn’t “revive” it. But def kept the boom bap twist to it. Errbody has been sampling everyday til this day
50 cent get rich or die tryin had samples so did ja rule “mesmerized” and more
I known Kanye since were kids living in South shore Dr. and I stayed on 77th and Coles across the street from St. Brides. Kanye never came outside alot but one time he came out and rode bikes with us down a dirt hill near Rainbow Beach, but there was a gang that tried to steal our bikes and Me and Kanye got away but Stanley his bike stolen. A nice red huffy trick bike stolen. Kanye really couldn't come out because his mom worked alot.
3:05 12/8. The inner beats are 16th notes
On two words, was that a drum break he got his drums from?
u look like karim benzema 🤣🤣 nice video❤❤
Spaceship is still 4/4, but in triplets. Great content tho!
Spaceship is in 6/8. “My 1st song” by Jay-Z is in 6/8 as well.
Question: why did his samples not get sued, is it because he completely modified them unlike other hip hop artists mentioned?
He paid for the samples
lol